Was Charles II of Spain Really THAT Inbred?

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  • Опубликовано: 30 ноя 2024

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  • @MortalFaces
    @MortalFaces  3 года назад +25

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    • @sannakarppinen4163
      @sannakarppinen4163 9 месяцев назад

      I have always wondered where in the Habsburg line the point of no return was crossed in conserning the inbreading? what was the point that reverse was impossible?

  • @evaperez4139
    @evaperez4139 3 года назад +13989

    No matter what the painter did to change his looks.
    His eyes were sad.

    • @Neenie1976
      @Neenie1976 3 года назад +738

      I agree. Poor fella

    • @winterweib
      @winterweib 3 года назад +1410

      He even could not EAT. He could not chew nor really swallow, they had to feed him somehow with soup. We have no idea through what he had to go.

    • @Neenie1976
      @Neenie1976 3 года назад +377

      @@winterweib I know he suffered greatly

    • @enikata7349
      @enikata7349 3 года назад +455

      I noticed that, maybe it was their only way to convey how the king really felt

    • @tris1339
      @tris1339 3 года назад +105

      gorgeous eyes

  • @zsong9600
    @zsong9600 3 года назад +15466

    Considering the high infant mortality rate, it’s surprising that he lived beyond infancy.

    • @Imbecile_crazy_philosopher
      @Imbecile_crazy_philosopher 3 года назад +763

      And it’s tragic that he lived to 40

    • @stephenpmurphy591
      @stephenpmurphy591 3 года назад +555

      @@Imbecile_crazy_philosopher Yes it certainty was a painful difficult life.

    • @iezzan7034
      @iezzan7034 3 года назад +374

      Maybe it's because he came from a royal family, and he received good medical care which made him survived

    • @LetThemGrumbIe
      @LetThemGrumbIe 3 года назад +375

      @@iezzan7034 There was no good medical care back then, only experimentation.

    • @noelleholiday7889
      @noelleholiday7889 3 года назад +196

      @Izzan aufa
      Even infants from royal family's was in high risk

  • @Theturtleowl
    @Theturtleowl 3 года назад +8301

    The fact that his sister, queen Maria Theresa of France had none of these issues is a miracle. What was obvious, is that her own children had health issues. Only her eldest child, the dauphin, survived to adulthood.

    • @maggiesmith856
      @maggiesmith856 3 года назад +220

      She and Louis XIV were cousins.

    • @ANJROTmania
      @ANJROTmania 3 года назад +746

      Yeah, she seems to be the Cleopatra VII of the family, the one that turned out physically okay despite being inbred.

    • @kenzieuchiha1191
      @kenzieuchiha1191 3 года назад +110

      Well her parents weren't as extremely related as Charles', Elisabeth of France and Philip IV were third cousins I believe.

    • @peadar-o
      @peadar-o 3 года назад +359

      She did have issues, she was pretty much a dwarf, and wasn't that intelligent, infantile some commentators even thought, and she also had many unsuccessful pregnancies. The short lives of her children was also stemming from her being a double first cousin to her husband, thus not having enough of new blood to combat any bad hereditary ailments. I believe this was also one of the factors to promoting the Polish princess, Maria Leszczyńska, as queen-consort to Louis XV.

    • @maryfreebed9886
      @maryfreebed9886 3 года назад +91

      @rimacutem of Alsvartrsmiðr That and it is generally a very good thing to have two X chromosomes.

  • @shyhistorian
    @shyhistorian 3 года назад +1896

    Surprisingly his full sister was healthy and had children. Odd how inbreeding is a game of Russian roulette sometimes.

    • @vinny9868
      @vinny9868 3 года назад +154

      On top of that, Maria and Louis XIV were first cousins, but they also all seem to have came out just fine. Their offspring didn't look too terrible either.
      Glad that Louis XV didn't keep up the incest.
      Louis XVI at least married a second cousin once removed. That's better than the old Austrian habits of marrying off nieces to uncles.

    • @shyhistorian
      @shyhistorian 3 года назад +50

      @@vinny9868 I believe Maria Theresa of Spain and Louis XIV were double first cousins (their son only had 4 unique great grandparents - which is alarming!) yet he was able to sire children and live a relatively healthy life. Then again, MT gave birth 6 times, and only their eldest son survived to adulthood.

    • @iciajay6891
      @iciajay6891 3 года назад +94

      Healthy looking. We do not know mental, intellectual or internal physical. I just feel sorry for all of them.

    • @andrzejsamofa9544
      @andrzejsamofa9544 3 года назад +39

      Well we have to take possiblity that someone else could be genes donator... It is not like there were a paternity tests avaible back then

    • @FeaRJoltx
      @FeaRJoltx 3 года назад +10

      But the more times they inbreed, the more bullets go into the chamber essentially.

  • @lordspoice5192
    @lordspoice5192 3 года назад +817

    "short, lame, epileptic, senile and completely bald before 35, always on the verge of death but repeatedly baffling Christendom by continuing to live." - Will and Ariel Durant describing Charles II

    • @naota3k
      @naota3k 3 года назад +145

      Imagine carefully and individually selecting each of your families mating partners in order to achieve "purity" but all you end up with is some sickly, crippled, frail skeleton of a person who can barely keep themselves upright.

    • @samdotcom9401
      @samdotcom9401 2 года назад +16

      naota3k the irony of it all...

    • @kingt0295
      @kingt0295 2 года назад +44

      @@naota3k purity is nonsense its was about keeping influence within their own line guaranteeing power and stability

    • @MeganVictoriaKearns
      @MeganVictoriaKearns 2 года назад

      Ok. So this guy was short, lame, epileptic, senile, bald by 35, had the mind of a child, had an abnormally large tongue, which made him constantly drool, had rashes, pock marked skin from smallpox, was incontinent, infertile, learning disabled, couldn't stand up straight, had rashes, open sores that got infected and stank, had trouble chewing solid food, had a severely deformed chin, was easy to fool, was physically small and weak, had no muscle tone, had a weak immune system, and by all accounts was physically / aesthetically ugly. Not unattractive or less than handsome, the word ugly is what people said of him. My God, were these people just completely unaware of the role inbreeding had in this family's health and intelligence and appearance? Did they not make that connection back then?

    • @prophetic0311
      @prophetic0311 2 года назад +2

      Cyraxx?

  • @sandrajohnson2489
    @sandrajohnson2489 3 года назад +9839

    I read about Charles II and his family. Not only was he afflicted with illnesses and many disabilities, his tongue was huge and he couldn't keep it in his mouth. It hung out and he drooled excessively.

    • @lyndcrotches
      @lyndcrotches 3 года назад +1137

      That's so sad

    • @shop-a-holic3194
      @shop-a-holic3194 3 года назад +89

      sexy...

    • @sissysovereign1294
      @sissysovereign1294 3 года назад +966

      Damn that's sad! Imagine how self conscious he must've felt all the time

    • @dingusdingus2152
      @dingusdingus2152 3 года назад +173

      Defective specimens like this rule empires and start wars and think they have a god given right to do so

    • @l.plantagenet2539
      @l.plantagenet2539 3 года назад +1220

      Has anyone ever read about his autopsy? His stomach was gangrenous, his heart was the size of a peppercorn, he had mostly water and very little brain. So very sad.

  • @ashalily5
    @ashalily5 3 года назад +12690

    Lets also take into account that royal painters often made their subjects look better than how they looked in real life, so if THAT is what the painter painted, you can only imagine what he actually looked like.

    • @dawnelder9046
      @dawnelder9046 3 года назад +903

      True There is a painting and photo from the same year of Victoria. The photo shows a normal woman of around 40. The painting shows a woman who is both young and perfect for the standards of the time. Everything dainty and delicate.

    • @BritishSoldier-kr9xf
      @BritishSoldier-kr9xf 3 года назад +168

      Oh dear

    • @yadana._
      @yadana._ 3 года назад +951

      So photoshop been around longer than we thought huh

    • @Flowmaster925
      @Flowmaster925 3 года назад +321

      @@yadana._ yea a lot of history is just drawings and stories, so it can all be twisted

    • @PumpkinHoard
      @PumpkinHoard 3 года назад +258

      @@dawnelder9046 Well, yeah, it's going to be like that. The people being painted are the ones paying for the painting, they don't want the painter to make them look horrible.

  • @dlcc___x
    @dlcc___x 3 года назад +7022

    when that painting started moving i damn near shat myself

    • @tomeikawalker9087
      @tomeikawalker9087 3 года назад +51

      lmao

    • @UltimateBasher
      @UltimateBasher 3 года назад +82

      Yeah why they do it the moving ..

    • @hawkfeather6802
      @hawkfeather6802 3 года назад +44

      Scared me too. To have it come to life suddenly us creepy!

    • @deandraalexis
      @deandraalexis 3 года назад +30

      It freaked me out too! I wasn't thinking that would happen. Only made it more sad because it suddenly became so real

    • @babynyancat2002
      @babynyancat2002 3 года назад +8

      I was looking for this comment

  • @Jen-zk9se
    @Jen-zk9se 3 года назад +141

    The fact that most painted portraits of the time were VERY generous considering the looks of a person… this dude must have been a beast.

    • @nathansteele4358
      @nathansteele4358 3 года назад +46

      It was worse in real life, his tongue was too large to fit in his mouth and he drooled so much that he had to drink constantly
      His jaw dislocated frequently and he was balding and pale
      He likely had large tumours for a lot of his life
      It’s been said his first wife screamed and cried the first day they met
      And he was smart enough to know exactly what was going on

    • @Jen-zk9se
      @Jen-zk9se 3 года назад +1

      @@nathansteele4358 Oh wow that’s crazy

    • @nathansteele4358
      @nathansteele4358 3 года назад +1

      @@Jen-zk9se I know

    • @phatlewt2932
      @phatlewt2932 3 года назад +2

      @@nathansteele4358 boy that's tough

  • @ItsNotJustRice
    @ItsNotJustRice 3 года назад +121

    However he was, or acted, dude is tough as nails just from the general story. What kid from the 1700's survives till 39, with all that trouble? Guy seemed like a fighter to have endured and continue with the mental stress, and physical.

  • @Ash-hi5hy
    @Ash-hi5hy 3 года назад +5524

    I feel so bad for him. He couldn't help the way he looked and I'm honestly shocked that he lived for as long as he did.

    • @plotarmour1471
      @plotarmour1471 3 года назад +72

      do u believe he was getting bullied? because he was a king but at same time...u know

    • @Ash-hi5hy
      @Ash-hi5hy 3 года назад +201

      @@plotarmour1471 I do believe it. Especially by his mother and the higher muckity mucks around her.

    • @lilyofthevalley5586
      @lilyofthevalley5586 3 года назад +27

      Poor bloke!

    • @CrosbyNu
      @CrosbyNu 3 года назад +80

      Records from court show he was a major asshole.

    • @plotarmour1471
      @plotarmour1471 3 года назад +7

      @@CrosbyNu why😂

  • @timolaiostimolaii9727
    @timolaiostimolaii9727 3 года назад +4019

    His nickname in Spain's History books and records is Charles II "the Bewitched". Although all his terrible issues, chronists says he was a kind person. He was the prototypical figure of genetic degradation of a dinasty because their politics on marriage, but as a human bieng I just can only feel a tremendous pity for this unfortunate king.

    • @dork7546
      @dork7546 3 года назад +282

      He wasn't a kind person at all. He forced disabled and deformed people that came from poor families, to move into his cattle in order to perform freak shows for him and constantly bullied and laughed at them, even at those that were children. So yeah...he's not worth of anyone's pity.

    • @timolaiostimolaii9727
      @timolaiostimolaii9727 3 года назад +194

      @@dork7546 Oh, I see. It's what is called "bufoons", persons attached to every single court in all Europe since the early middle ages, something not exclusively of this king or his dinasty (I mean, this "position" in court existed in England, France, Spain, Italy, Germany, and so, and so, and so, and you can easily truck it in records or documents of this era). So, following your line of thought, ALL this kings, queens or courts and cortesans, ALL, are very BAAAD, and deserve then this kind if deseases, and worst, because of that, don't they? Instead of judging with your XXI eyes a different historical moment, you should'nt make honor to your nickname or, ironically, your avatar as you do with this kind of commentaries.

    • @nathancrudup9603
      @nathancrudup9603 3 года назад +169

      @@timolaiostimolaii9727 I mean yeah, if you read a history book most royalty back then where pretty awful people lol. They believed they were ordained by god to rule and lived incredibly insular lives. So it kind of makes sense given the environment they were brought up in. Also the person you replied to never said they thought he deserved to have his disabilities. Only that they didn’t feel sorry for him for having them. If you’re going to criticize someone’s opinion don’t make stuff up.

    • @Kelly14UK
      @Kelly14UK 3 года назад +12

      Poor guy didn't have a say. Cousins breeding, second cousins etc, the amount of shared DNA is dangerous. Second cousins match 1/16 of DNA, first cousins i think is 1/8. Too close.

    • @takayanagi-senseissurprise2104
      @takayanagi-senseissurprise2104 3 года назад +7

      @@dork7546
      Can you please send a link or any reference of your statement?

  • @ShiviRo
    @ShiviRo 3 года назад +7977

    I feel sorry for him. Wasn't his fault. He just paid the highest price for the sins of his relatives (family background). He suffered the most unfortunately.. may his soul rest in peace.

    • @dork7546
      @dork7546 3 года назад +821

      I don't. He had deformed people whom he deemed as "freaks" live in his castle and perform for him in order to make him feel better about himself.

    • @amarie_2
      @amarie_2 3 года назад +612

      He was actually rather cruel

    • @amarie_2
      @amarie_2 3 года назад +35

      @@dork7546 yep

    • @dork7546
      @dork7546 3 года назад +229

      @@amarie_2 If anyone who was living in the palace at the time was worthy of being called a monster, it was him, not his "freak" performers.

    • @lemmingscanfly5
      @lemmingscanfly5 3 года назад +89

      @@dork7546 And I can imagine why, the mental strain he'd have had growing up.

  • @rachelmoore3418
    @rachelmoore3418 3 года назад +168

    I feel really sorry for this guy. I have a lot of health issues myself (keloid scarring, macular degeneration in the eyes, asthma, and more) a lot of which goes back to inbreeding in my own family; though not nearly as severely as with the Hapsburgs. We weren't that crazy. I couldn't imagine what it must have been like to live back then.

    • @ilikeapples1824
      @ilikeapples1824 3 года назад +3

      Do people in your family still have marriages between cousins? Because this can be simply avoided if no one marries each other

    • @rachelmoore3418
      @rachelmoore3418 3 года назад +50

      @@ilikeapples1824 Not since our great grandparents. It's been a solid hundred years now since anyone's done that. But it does go to show how long lasting the effects can be. The past two generations haven't been related at all, and we all still have issues

    • @0ffline333
      @0ffline333 2 года назад +4

      Interesting - how do you know those issues are due to the inbreeding, if i may ask? I suffer from the same, and while inbreeding in my family has never outwardly been spoken about, it has been alluded to. Im intrigued now because I didn't think it was part of my genetic line lol

    • @rachelmoore3418
      @rachelmoore3418 2 года назад +15

      @@0ffline333 To be honest, we don't have solid confirmation. It's not the easiest thing to test for. What makes us think incest is where and how it crops up - these issues tend to pass maternally (Queen Victoria destroyed the Russian monarchy that way - long story) and we absolutely have that pattern. My great grandparents had two daughters, each of whom had a son and daughter. Those of us related to them through a maternal line have these disorders, while those of us related through a paternal line don't. I have a cousin in Australia who's as healthy as a horse, while I struggle. It's the same on the other side of the family, too. My mother's cousin is in perfect health, while my mother struggles. Beyond that, the range of issues match everything we've heard about the effects of incest. Learning disorders, fertility issues, physical difficulties (if not disabilities); I don't have all of these, but I can name at least one person in my family who has one of these manifestations. I hope this answered your question 😅

  • @anthonywalker6268
    @anthonywalker6268 2 года назад +183

    He actually sounded like a solid guy. He kept the empire running despite all that, and even trying a last minute save by naming a successor.

    • @LiftandCoa
      @LiftandCoa 7 месяцев назад +11

      According to contemporary witnesses he was a solid guy.
      Non of the rest was his doing tho.
      He was not mentally or physically capable of leading a simple life, yet alone the Spanish Empire.
      He never really understood his position or his duties. Much of it was taken over by his mother and later especially his second wife who carved out a significant position on the court (and clashed with his mom).
      With rising age Charles II. lost ever more grip on wtf is going on (starting from the little he had, thats a very bad thing) and was made to sign not one, not two but several directly competing wills for the spanish throne proposed by what ever group he was cared by and dependent on at that time.

  • @janc8199
    @janc8199 3 года назад +2558

    How did this poor man with his deformities, and sicknesses live to age 39..That in itself is a miracle.

    • @deviousN
      @deviousN 3 года назад +64

      Charles II was no poor man. He was an huge jerk that invited disabled people into his palace just to mock them and make himself feel better.

    • @iverith1
      @iverith1 3 года назад +89

      @@deviousN It was a normal thing at most courts. If you know history so well and you know he was mean to people, you should know this too. Saying that he was making fun of others and was cruel is an assumption. After all these years, we will not find out the truth. I'm not saying that he was an angel on earth, he probably wasn't, but it is also not good to generalize the other way around. Why do people judge the past from the perspective of the 21st century. Most monarchs believed that they were God's messengers, that they were superhumans, and they lived that way. It wasn't necessarily because of their bad character, but more because of the way they were raised. If you hear since childhood that you are special, you have power, you are better than commoners, then you think this way and act this way. He was mentally challenged too.

    • @deviousN
      @deviousN 3 года назад +30

      @@iverith1 he's still a huge jerk since the court dwellers were aware of how he shallowly mocked others who were like him.. and being douchy was common in those times but not entirely part of royal ettiquette. I'd say Charles II earned his early grave with his poor behavior.

    • @herrkulor3771
      @herrkulor3771 3 года назад +11

      He was taken care of.

    • @sharonswift8668
      @sharonswift8668 3 года назад +6

      How did they allow him to be king

  • @caej72
    @caej72 3 года назад +2625

    The inbreeding of the House of Habsburg was preceded by the inbreeding of the House of Trastamara, to which both the Catholic Monarchs, Ferndinand and Isabel, belonged. They were first cousins ​​to each other and their royal house had already a previous habitual practice of inbreeding for at least two centuries. In the genealogical tree that you present, it remains to be noted that Phillip II's parents were also first cousins (emperor Charles V and Isabel of Portugal, their mothers were sisters). So his genetic ills came from at least 400 years of marriage between blood relatives.

    • @BarbaraGodin
      @BarbaraGodin 3 года назад +152

      It goes back to before the Roman conquest of Gaul, in fact, I'd blame Leviticus for the absurd "rule" that led to all the European inbreeding.
      Charlemagne is the progenitor of every European Noble house and the entirety of European Royalty from Russia to Portugal to the Slavic republics are all from his extended family. The DNA can trace the same lines all the way back to Mesopotamia. Half the planet has been ruled by these same families since antiquity.
      What's even more interesting is that today, in the US, two people from completely different familial and emigration backgrounds - DNA cousins - are still ending up married to each other. My mom married distant cousins, twice, even when she was trying to be "careful".
      There's nothing like the "wait, what? These families were neighbors 150 years ago" revelation when family tree building and going back two generations to find they had the same grandparents and were on neighboring land grants from the crown for some time before Protestantism effectively destroyed the monarchies.
      The Franco-Prussian War and Protestant Reformation really did a number on the extended noble families of central and southern Austria Hungary and there was a great diaspora of lesser nobility during that time who emigrated to America under false, non "German" documents. This DNA is all over the US and Canada.
      My family was supposed to be French and Norweigan. DNA testing for genetic defects was a real eye opener. Much like 1% of the world population (or more) being descendants of Ghengis Khan, there are actually a huge number of descendants from these lesser royals going all the way back to Charlemagne, in North America.

    • @nl212ep
      @nl212ep 3 года назад +27

      Yuck

    • @vanillaicecream9026
      @vanillaicecream9026 3 года назад

      Also Eczed from hungary

    • @sectorgovernor
      @sectorgovernor 3 года назад +44

      @@BarbaraGodin The first rulers of Hungary weren't. They didn't have European origin and came from a steppe nomad type society. I think they weren't inbred, though they probably had multiple viwes.
      The first King of Hungary however married an Austrian princess and his descendants also married from the different European Royal houses.

    • @minutemansam1214
      @minutemansam1214 3 года назад +19

      @@sectorgovernor Hungarians were still from Europe. They originated near the Ural mountains, and are related to Fins and Estonians.

  • @winterweib
    @winterweib 3 года назад +4668

    His first wife was real kind to him. It is said it was the best time of his life. He was allowed to play with his toys, and she spoke very gentle, cared for him like a mother.
    When she died, they choose a sister of 'Jan Wellem' (Johann Wilhelm) from Neuburg/Danube, since it was said 'these women conceive already when the man puts it's trousers at the bedpost'.
    She was high nosed, promised to make all siblings kings and emperors, and when she arrived, she threw a tatrumbecause he was 'so ugly'.
    He had tried to be nice, but became afraid and hated her, while she wanted urgent to f...; all became a real catastrophe.

    • @YamnayaSintash
      @YamnayaSintash 3 года назад +237

      ahh thats sweet

    • @darkgiggler
      @darkgiggler 3 года назад +193

      @@YamnayaSintash aw i know so sweet and sad

    • @ominous-omnipresent-they
      @ominous-omnipresent-they 3 года назад +584

      I mean, I'd be high-nosed, too, if my family had arranged a marriage that obviously wasn't in my best interest.

    • @BB-un2ts
      @BB-un2ts 3 года назад +153

      I wouldn’t want to *uck with him tho. Even if he was nice.

    • @Robo-xk4jm
      @Robo-xk4jm 3 года назад +94

      @@ominous-omnipresent-they that was the norm then and one doesnt have much option other then marry or exiling to another country to start a new life as a peasant to flee the marriage and enraged families with access to a lot of power

  • @lostballintallgrass1
    @lostballintallgrass1 3 года назад +87

    It happened to Jews in Europe as the populations dwindled from persecution and in areas with smaller Jewish communities. Cousins marrying each other was permitted back then to abide by religious rules. My wife's aunt Anita died from a form of leukemia that was so rare that the doctors at Johns Hopkins could only find a single paragraph describing it in their medical books.

    • @lostballintallgrass1
      @lostballintallgrass1 2 года назад +6

      @pyropulse Nature appears to seek differentiation. So much so, that restricting it feels like going against nature. Look at the dangers selective breeding has produced in animals and GMO's in the plant world.

    • @bengaliinplatforms1268
      @bengaliinplatforms1268 2 года назад +3

      @@lostballintallgrass1 Wrong, nature selects for mates that are similar, humans find mates that look something like they do.

    • @susanwestern6434
      @susanwestern6434 2 года назад +1

      I understand that inbreeding happens a lot in the South Asian population.

    • @melissapinol7279
      @melissapinol7279 4 месяца назад +1

      I met a woman who was a Moroccan Jew. She said the Jewish community there was very small, and there were a lot of cousin marriages. She certainly was completely normal and shared some delicious recipes with me! My paternal grandmother was a Russian Jew, but DNA tests showed that she was also non Jewish Russian, Hungarian and Greek, so there was certainly less inbreeding. She was somehow also part Bengali and Punjabi! I can't quite figure that part out.

  • @shakespeareangentleman
    @shakespeareangentleman 2 года назад +24

    I imagine how much stress and suffering he felt, I can imagine that he felt very self conscious, because he is human. And the things he had to go through when he was a child must have been tough.

  • @asphodelale
    @asphodelale 3 года назад +2718

    Had he been born today, a lot of his problems could have been solved--vaccinations would have prevented the scarring and other related damage from the smallpox etc., shunts would have reduced the hydrocephaly that caused his large head (and some of the resultant mental debility), surgery could have reduced his oversized tongue, and a combination of surgery and orthodontics could have corrected the under-bite.
    Additionally, physical therapy and/or braces could have strengthened his limbs so that he could stand and walk better, and special education would not have assumed that he couldn't learn. At the very least, CPS would have made sure that he was kept properly clean (APS after adulthood).
    Of course, nothing could correct the infertility, nor the internal problems (they suspect he had a kidney disorder, for example), but modern medicine could have made him a lot more comfortable.

    • @1917yee
      @1917yee 3 года назад +263

      @rimacutem of Alsvartrsmiðr unfortunately victims of incesr are still born today so those original points remain. It's not always as noble as the royals pretend it is

    • @asphodelale
      @asphodelale 3 года назад +22

      ​@rimacutem of Alsvartrsmiðr Incest, per se, is not necessarily a problem, biologically speaking. It's only a problem when one or more of any breeding pair carries the genes for a genetic disorder. An incestuous breeding pair with clean genes is actually MORE likely to produce healthy offspring than an outbred pair where the genetics are unknown. They just won't have as much hybrid vigor.
      As for Charles himself, not only does medical compassion have virtue in and of itself, but had they been able to keep him alive longer, the War of Spanish Succession would have been postponed, and might even have eventually been prevented. And that would have saved thousands of non-royal lives. (Ah, the 'joys' of anachronistic theorizing...)

    • @asphodelale
      @asphodelale 3 года назад +25

      @rimacutem of Alsvartrsmiðr As if all villagers back in our pre-tech agrarian age weren't related? It's only the degree of consanguinity that society sets, not consanguinity itself.
      And perhaps a compassionate society would be crushed, but a society that lacks the means or motive to help its weakest members has already fallen.

    • @loislewis5229
      @loislewis5229 3 года назад +19

      @rimacutem of Alsvartrsmiðr Hitler called them “consumers” because they did not “produce” for society. This led to horrible treatment of those people.

    • @loislewis5229
      @loislewis5229 3 года назад +2

      @rimacutem of Alsvartrsmiðr Sadly, I agree with your opinion that modern human rights are a fashion.

  • @BaneofBots
    @BaneofBots 3 года назад +1130

    I honestly can’t fathom how he lasted 39 YEARS in a time where so much as a paper cut would likely be a death sentence, adding on to that his almost non existent immune system and other disabilities, how he survived so much as an hour is honestly impressive.

    • @thenoblepoptart
      @thenoblepoptart 3 года назад +46

      A paper cut wouldn’t be a death sentence, maximum life expectancy was the same in the past as it was today, and the typical age of death was only a little younger than today. Infant mortality was massive.

    • @Anonymous-df8it
      @Anonymous-df8it 3 года назад +7

      I'm surprised he lived even a single Planck time lol.

    • @thenoblepoptart
      @thenoblepoptart 3 года назад +10

      @@llamawalrushybrid yeah gangrene was dangerous for sure, i was more talking about the common misconception that most people in the past never lived into their 40s or whatever.

    • @SOLARITY333
      @SOLARITY333 3 года назад +21

      Medieval physicians understood basic infection treatment. They knew that covering a wound in vinegar, concentrated honey and certain wines could reduce the risk of infection, and they knew of keeping wounds clean and changing bandages regularly. You don't need to understand Germ Theory to spot patterns.
      You still wouldn't want to end up at the apothecary's office, though.

    • @XofHope
      @XofHope 2 года назад +3

      @@llamawalrushybrid Infections definitely killed people, but good physicians knew about basic hygiene and how to properly clean wounds and apply disinfectants like alcohol, vinegar or honey, even if they didn't know about microbes and what really caused those infections. Most people nowadays have this misconception that any wound was basically a dead sentence and occasionality it was, but people also often survived even ghastly wounds.

  • @ferociousgumby
    @ferociousgumby 3 года назад +1257

    Most people's family trees branch outwards - his just seemed to grow inwards. Creepy!

    • @stone-coldsteveautism6986
      @stone-coldsteveautism6986 3 года назад +81

      His family tree was a greased pole. No one made it to the top.

    • @canaan5337
      @canaan5337 3 года назад +43

      Actually among the wealthy Elite Royal families of Europe inbreeding was quite common because it ensured that the money and power stayed in the family.

    • @CaliWeHo
      @CaliWeHo 3 года назад +3

      Absolutely! 😖😖😖

    • @CaliWeHo
      @CaliWeHo 3 года назад +1

      @@stone-coldsteveautism6986 😖😖😖

    • @CaliWeHo
      @CaliWeHo 3 года назад +1

      @@canaan5337 😖😖😖

  • @jermed2001
    @jermed2001 3 года назад +72

    I feel so sorry for him. My heart breaks for him, especially knowing everything that he went through physically.

    • @Progress234
      @Progress234 3 года назад

      he was a bully himself

    • @Pink_pr1ncess
      @Pink_pr1ncess 3 года назад

      @@Progress234 still he didn’t deserve to live like he did, he didn’t ask to be inbred

  • @TTALeapMonster
    @TTALeapMonster 3 года назад +51

    I know he was extremely unwell but the way you brought him to life, he is actually quite lovely. I particularly love his big dark eyes. They are beautiful if not sad. First video of yours I'm seeing and I'm blown away by what you've done!

  • @aputridpileofb-movies6542
    @aputridpileofb-movies6542 3 года назад +1081

    I think perhaps the most depressing aspect of this fellow's whole life is that he was able to comprehend that he was ugly, sickly, and different. Late in his life I suspect he comprehended that he wasn't going to live a very long life.

    • @Kitty-mb4hy
      @Kitty-mb4hy 3 года назад +33

      Back in that time nobody expected to live a long life. A simple little cut or an ordinary cold could be fatal back then.

    • @syasyaishavingfun
      @syasyaishavingfun 3 года назад +12

      39 years is quite good

    • @Chuked
      @Chuked 3 года назад +9

      @@Kitty-mb4hy king tut died of a leg fracture so yeah

    • @insertmoney2189
      @insertmoney2189 3 года назад +10

      @@syasyaishavingfun with his conditions I’m surprised he even made it that far

    • @fart63
      @fart63 3 года назад +13

      @@Chuked king tut was also very inbred though

  • @Nothingness00000-o
    @Nothingness00000-o 3 года назад +687

    I feel for Charles. He didn't ask for these disabilities, constant pain and discomfort 😔. What's unbelievable is that there is still pockets in the world that still inbreed.

    • @reynardfoxx6753
      @reynardfoxx6753 3 года назад +41

      My grandparents in the 1920's married as 1st cousins. They were warned by their doctor about the kids coming out _funny_. My aunt is ok but my mom is mentally ill from birth.
      My grandparents had a very happy marriage, 80 years together, but they always felt guilty about my mom's illness.

    • @Kitty-mb4hy
      @Kitty-mb4hy 3 года назад +2

      @@reynardfoxx6753 thank you for sharing your story!
      it sure feels weird to ask but how much kids does your mom have and are they healthy?

    • @reynardfoxx6753
      @reynardfoxx6753 3 года назад +11

      @@Kitty-mb4hy
      It's ok to ask. The internet is anonymous. I'm an only child.
      I've always been afraid to reproduce because I've had issues with depression, my offspring would be at risk.
      On the other hand, my mom's sister had 2 healthy boys.
      Their offspring, (the great grandchildren) are 6. Unfortunately, 1 had a birth defect. She's been fine now after surgery.

    • @imagecollections6665
      @imagecollections6665 3 года назад +11

      All of India for example.

    • @lazyslother5264
      @lazyslother5264 3 года назад +4

      like the usa?

  • @elsakristina2689
    @elsakristina2689 3 года назад +909

    He’s pretty much the Early Modern Spanish equivalent of King Tut when it comes to the laundry list of health problems and deformities they both had. I could be wrong but it seems to me like the later Habsburgs in general calmed down when it came to incest. Probably learned their lesson from Charles even if that took time to register.

    • @harvardarchaeologydept3799
      @harvardarchaeologydept3799 3 года назад +5

      just think since King Tuts dna is E1B1A. That is full black Ethiopian. His grandmother was QUEEN TIYE. Easily google her 7,000yr old wooden bust and notice her Afro. So where today ever do you see africans incest. This is the hidden history that’s been spoken of since Napoleon and his scientists said so. Not me.

    • @laurenturner3578
      @laurenturner3578 3 года назад +85

      @@harvardarchaeologydept3799 um...I think most people are aware Egypt is in Africa, ergo the rulers would be marrying African princesses. I mean, they can’t have been marrying Europeans and white skinned people were a small minority at that point. It’s also true that Tut’s dynasty ended with his two stillborn daughters, ending that strain of Ethiopian ancestry, presumably.

    • @TheTrippersMindTrip
      @TheTrippersMindTrip 3 года назад +4

      King Tut wasn't inbred. Was he?

    • @elsakristina2689
      @elsakristina2689 3 года назад +71

      @@TheTrippersMindTrip He absolutely was. He couldn't walk without a cane because he had clubfeet and deformed hips, he had gynecomastia (man boobs), he couldn't turn his head, he probably had epilepsy and he was probably even intellectually disabled to some degree. No joke. His wife was his older sister and they had two daughters but both were born dangerously premature or stillborn. They were buried with Tut after he died because their religion taught that in spirit they would help him while he fought his way into the afterlife (in the Egyptian religion you didn't just go to the afterlife when you died, you would've had to earn or prove your way in).

    • @starthelotus3453
      @starthelotus3453 3 года назад +19

      @@harvardarchaeologydept3799 7,000? It was made in the 1300s BCE 🤨

  • @aurochf1
    @aurochf1 3 года назад +57

    Despite all his physical disabilities he was not an incompetent or even a bad king. Yes his mother was appointed regeant, but that was because he was underage when he was crowned (he was six at the time!). He left an empire which was not in bad shape, considering the state it was when he inherited it, and there are multiple accounts of proper governance by him.

    • @LiftandCoa
      @LiftandCoa 7 месяцев назад +1

      His mother also ruled while he was an adult. Later she fought with his second, very ambitious wife over control.
      He was not fit to rule, nor did he understand what was going on at any point in his life.

    • @spamgarbage6999
      @spamgarbage6999 5 месяцев назад

      He had untreated hydrocephalus he was not cognitively there

  • @rwade4387
    @rwade4387 3 года назад +219

    I’m surprised they didn’t have a fake baby for him. As in give his wife the option to pay with someone who resembles his traits (hair color/eyes) & then just secretly claim it’s his. I know that’s elaborate but to avoid so many years of war & death I think it would be a beneficial idea, plus they’d stop suffering from inbreeding.

    • @insertmoney2189
      @insertmoney2189 3 года назад +10

      All the inbreeding went to their brains so they couldn’t even think of a plan like that.

    • @中村沢
      @中村沢 3 года назад +13

      It can be resumed to political gains and also the fact that if common people knew the truth about that it would be an scandal… nobody wanted a supposed heir that appeared out of thin air when there were other contestants to the throne of Spain and the wealth backing it.
      Royalty has always been a political game and nothing more than that, there was no consideration for their children or the people in the royal line what mattered in the end was, how many lands you own, how much wealth enters your treasury and your stake at global policies of the time.
      Here in Spain there’s still a minority group of contestants to the throne that are from the old Habsburg line (here they are called Carlists) (their story quite interesting in fact) a prince ended up fighting during the 1936-1939 civil war so that maybe he could proclaim again an Spanish monarchy with the house of Habsburg but he was later exiled somehow ended in France fighting with the resistance against nazis… anyways quite the tale. (His name was Prince Xavier duque of parma)

    • @jillgarlick2122
      @jillgarlick2122 3 года назад +7

      Back in those days the heir/S to a throne I. Europe (including the UK) were born with several people, including Priests, Doctors appointed by the Court, politicians, and more witnessing the birth to guarantee no such skullduggery. The heir had to be ‘of the blood’.

    • @rwade4387
      @rwade4387 3 года назад +5

      @@jillgarlick2122 Even so, not a single one of those people would be there to witness the baby making. So if she got pregnant secretly & gave birth to a baby with the kings features, the plan would be successful regardless of who witnesses the birth. There was no DNA tests back then.

    • @jillgarlick2122
      @jillgarlick2122 3 года назад +3

      @@rwade4387 the impotent King would not have a bar of that! It would also be well known that he was impotent, so a pregnancy popping up would probably lose the wife her head!

  • @thehigh-plainspiper9143
    @thehigh-plainspiper9143 3 года назад +363

    When your family tree is more of a family circle.

    • @p00lboy
      @p00lboy 3 года назад +4

      i had pictured a leaf rake with tines pointed to the sky

    • @Chuked
      @Chuked 3 года назад +1

      Bro

    • @justsomeone7883
      @justsomeone7883 3 года назад +1

      Family stump

  • @sunni1ib691
    @sunni1ib691 3 года назад +531

    You did a great job. Your rendering is how I thought of him as well. Charles II of Spain is a such a sad tale due to the ignorance of the time of inbreeding. However, just because there is inbreeding doesn’t necessarily make Charles mentally or emotionally deficient. From my readings, and from this video, Charles definitely had physical abnormalities along with medical issues-enlarged tongue, head, smaller torso in proportion to his head, weakness in body strength, the Hapsburg Jaw, I believe he supposedly had epilepsy, and I reckon he also had a compromised immune system. His mother, his wives, personal physician and attendants apparently took very good care of him. He may not have had the intellect to rule a country, but he certainly knew how to love, and be loved, be angry and be hurt. To have lived to the “advanced” years of 38 years, 11 months and 1 day, 5 days shy of his 39th birthday is a miracle in itself.

    • @LittleImpaler
      @LittleImpaler 3 года назад +17

      People knew inbreeding was bad in those days. But the royals were stuck on being pure blooded.

  • @gxtmfa
    @gxtmfa 3 года назад +263

    I’ve never felt such instantaneous pity as I did when you animated the portrait. You really are quite amazing at your job and humanizing your subjects.

  • @AmsterdamHeavy
    @AmsterdamHeavy 3 года назад +7

    This little bit of history makes my skin crawl so hard.

  • @zammap08
    @zammap08 3 года назад +253

    a stable boy slipping in every few generations would have done wonders for spanish history.... ;)

    • @Hudpix16
      @Hudpix16 3 года назад +44

      That kind of happened with Queen Isabel II, she was the actual monarch, her husband was also not only her cousin but also gay, so the queen had lots of affairs with men. It’s said her son the prince who would become king was really the son of an army general.

    • @CivilizedWasteland
      @CivilizedWasteland 3 года назад +1

      the wives were pretty heavily inbred too

    • @buttersquids
      @buttersquids 3 года назад

      @@CivilizedWasteland sure, but it would've given some extra genetic variety

  • @malicant123
    @malicant123 3 года назад +243

    My paternal great-grandparents were first cousins, and my dad's family is riddled with mental illness. I myself am also affected, though I am at least functional for the most part. I feel so sorry for Charles II. None of us can help the circumstances of our birth, but are none the less burdened with the consequences. Nature can be cruel.

    • @lilMissF0F0
      @lilMissF0F0 3 года назад +28

      while marrying 1st cousins and 2nd cousins raise the chance of genetic problems showing up, the problem here was mostly because brother is marrying his sister, uncle marrying his niece which is very genetically dangerous.

    • @francespowell6923
      @francespowell6923 3 года назад +17

      @Lèmon Lēe You'll run into problems when there's been a few generations of first cousins, though. I worked with a guy whose parents were double cousins, and it didn't do him much good at all.

    • @Hrishtam
      @Hrishtam 3 года назад +11

      @Lèmon Lēe thats just the tip of the iceberg tho, once its starts accumulating, it gets worse

    • @JeantheSecond
      @JeantheSecond 3 года назад +7

      First cousins 3 generations ago probably isn’t the cause of your family’s mental illnesses. Sadly, sometimes mental illness just runs in a family, no inbreeding required.

    • @Anonymous-df8it
      @Anonymous-df8it 3 года назад

      @@francespowell6923 By 'double cousins', I am fairly sure you meant second cousins as I have never heard 'double cousins' before.

  • @christinaify
    @christinaify 3 года назад +154

    What's mind blowing to me is that they *knew* inbreeding did this. It wasn't like they had no clue, we'd known for millennia that the children of related individuals had deformities and poor health. *And yet* they still kept it in the family...so to speak. Just mind boggling.

    • @2008DodgeChallenger
      @2008DodgeChallenger 3 года назад +20

      The whole point of it is becuase they were scared that there dynasty would fall so the only way to prevent that is to only have people marry there relatives

    • @EmperorPylades
      @EmperorPylades 2 года назад +21

      They didn't want to surrender or risk losing any of their immense holdings (many of which they gained through marriages) for one thing. Feudal inheritance is a pain like that.
      The other problem is that they were fiercely Catholic, and felt that it was beneath them to not marry fellow high royalty. The problem was that the Reformation had left only one other Catholic family in Europe, the French Royals. And those two families absolutely HATED one another, to the point that in the Thirty Year War, the French supported the Protestants.

  • @pamelameadows9717
    @pamelameadows9717 3 года назад +19

    It's so nice to watch a RUclips channel that's put together so well without deception and that awful robot voice. Not knowing you to judge your character I would still have to say you must love your work because of all the research and reading along with the facial reconstruction. These are rare qualities of someone doing a RUclips channel. Extraordinary and love your work. I've seen so much on here with clickbait, lies, hate, bullying and that extremely awful nasal robot voice. All of that makes me your biggest fan LOL( don't worry I'm not Kathy Bates in misery). You are so talented in many areas. People should be burning your phone up to work with you. I love your Innovative technology.

  • @proton8689
    @proton8689 3 года назад +15

    As geneticists and biologists always say, "Diversity is always a necessity, that's our policy."

  • @gregdavis19
    @gregdavis19 3 года назад +559

    It’s sad to see this. Believe me or not, this inbreeding still happens today. I knew of two huge families that still marry cousins back in the early 1990’s. As for Charles, it’s a good thing he was impotent and the breeding stop with him.

    • @ellerose9164
      @ellerose9164 3 года назад +92

      Marrying cousins is not a great idea but it was worse with the habsburgs. They had several occasions where an uncle wed his niece! And they did these things for hundreds of years.

    • @gregdavis19
      @gregdavis19 3 года назад +39

      @@ellerose9164 That is very disgusting, Elle! No wonder this guy turned out deformed and a lot physical challenges.

    • @meg2249
      @meg2249 3 года назад +97

      Yep even today it still happens. My husband went to school with a kid where the family tree was in no way shape or form a ‘tree’. From what I understood his greatgrandfather raped his daughter resulting in a daughter/granddaughter and then proceeded to rape her resulting in the kid my husband went to school with… worst part was dad/grandad/greatgrandad basically got away with it too… Poor kid had severe mental disabilities and obviously the home environment was not great with dad/grandad/great grandad still having access to all of them.

    • @gregdavis19
      @gregdavis19 3 года назад +62

      @@meg2249 Geez, Meg, that’s so sad. I’m going to go out on a limb here, I’m sure good Ol’dad/grandpa/ great grandpa is paying for his crimes some where down below. I wish guys that do that would get caught, and forget the court system, and use some good old vigilante justice!

    • @lubricustheslippery5028
      @lubricustheslippery5028 3 года назад +18

      Inbreeding depression is stoped by just one generation outbreeding. So if he could get kids with someone he wasn't related to they would be fine.

  • @MissM.789
    @MissM.789 3 года назад +45

    There are lots of communities in England still practicing this. As a nurse i see the results of first cousin marriages and its heart breaking. For what? Money. Truly terrible

    • @MonkeymagicsMum
      @MonkeymagicsMum 3 года назад +16

      Pakistani Muslim families mostly.

    • @SlapstickGenius23
      @SlapstickGenius23 2 года назад +7

      Bangladeshi Muslim clans?

    • @sallyibrahim9135
      @sallyibrahim9135 2 года назад +8

      As a muslim i can tell its not about religion its about culture and tradition. Islam just happens to be there but no one follow it unfortunately. I live in sweden and firt cousin marriage is not illegal but taboo. I my parents homeland first cousins have to do special tests to see any risks before they go ahead and gett married. Not really a thing here in sweden. What I want to day is that there are families that don't want a "stranger" to marry their family members and anyone who goes against that either gets killed or kicked out. Even local authorities struggle with them because they don't care about law or religion or anything in between. They have their own little area they rule. Simply, this is what tribes are. Ignorance and refusing to change because of fear. Some want the control and authority. Don't mix up anything you see with religion. Never start with putting blame on a religion whether it's Judaism, Christianity,Hinduism or any other religion. There are many aspects to social problems, it's always the people not the religion.

    • @AnonymousOneThree
      @AnonymousOneThree 2 года назад

      Yes, Muslims in the UK. I saw a documentary about how the rate of birth defects in babies born of these incestuous marriages are burdening the healthcare system. These customs are also why birth defects are so prevalent in middle eastern countries. Cousins, uncles and nieces marrying each other over generations.

    • @MissM.789
      @MissM.789 2 года назад

      @@sallyibrahim9135 absolutely. Very well put x

  • @Melissa-wx4lu
    @Melissa-wx4lu 3 года назад +184

    Even more inbred than King Charles II were the pharaohs of Egypt. Specifically King Tut. I would really like to see a video about him. Although, there are not any portraits of him to work from.
    They believed they were gods and goddesses and needed to breed with other gods and goddesses, so there were lots and lots of sibling marriages. and "Double niece" marriages. that is, where brother and sister have a daughter and the daughter is married to another brother of her parents.
    They were very inbred and it's surprising how long they were able to rule the ancient world.

    • @loisen
      @loisen 3 года назад +7

      Hopefully they were only formally married and were having children with other men or women.

    • @Melissa-wx4lu
      @Melissa-wx4lu 3 года назад +30

      @@loisen With the number of deformities and sickly health of Tut, I'm pretty sure they were having kids with each other. No arguments that sometimes from fresh DNA got into the pool ever so often otherwise I'm think their rule would have sputtered out much sooner. But it caught up with them in the end though.

    • @faf8709
      @faf8709 3 года назад +14

      King tut himself was actually a remarkably good king for an inbred child monarch. He reversed a lot of the changes his father Echnaton introduced who is considered one of the worst pharaos.

    • @baseliacaliga
      @baseliacaliga 3 года назад +11

      ​@@faf8709 Given the severity of his deformities and the age he started to rule, I doubt it was actually him who was making all these reforms and not his advisors, high priests, generals, the other members of the royal family and perhaps some nobles as well. Not to mention that being better than the worst guy out there isn't exactly a proof of someone's capabilities.

    • @cvmitchell9368
      @cvmitchell9368 2 года назад +3

      There's a video of King Tut on this channel.

  • @sherbearb.1593
    @sherbearb.1593 2 года назад +1

    Your voice is wonderfully smooth and calming. Thanks for what you do.

  • @sadirasturdevant4128
    @sadirasturdevant4128 2 года назад +17

    I feel so bad for him. Like he must have been miserable for so long. He could have probably lived a perfectly fine and content life in a clean country house with some trusted servants and companions in the countryside, but instead he was forced to take on all of this extra stress that he didn’t have the room for in his life with everything else he was dealing with.

  • @enikata7349
    @enikata7349 3 года назад +108

    The way you brought him to life with how he looked was really interesting and so well done. I feel that, though his deformities were bad it sounds like he had a lot of love and support from his family in the best way they could have provided it. I suppose the only up side was that he was a king; anyone else and he might have just been locked away.

  • @sannakarppinen4163
    @sannakarppinen4163 3 года назад +21

    i wonder how much pain he had to endure everyday with his deformaties and disabilities? sad life because his parents did wrong. may his soul now rest in peace.

  • @johnkelsiemcnair7787
    @johnkelsiemcnair7787 3 года назад +66

    The Hapsburg family motto: "If you can't keep in your pants, keep it in your family." The animation scared the crap out of me.

  • @vonvonblack2
    @vonvonblack2 3 года назад +10

    Amazing work on the remastered photos and animation. So realistic and brings the story into reality.

  • @EvadoCouto
    @EvadoCouto 3 года назад +5

    Oh man I wasn’t ready for this to end. I could listen to your retellings all day! Thank you for this

  • @karenjarrett8904
    @karenjarrett8904 3 года назад +37

    This was a most interesting upload. Your recreation of his face is fascinating. Well done.

  • @sassynana5201
    @sassynana5201 3 года назад +270

    Can you imagine how horrible it was for his “wives” to have to try to create an heir with him? I wonder how the wives were chosen.

    • @davenewton3576
      @davenewton3576 3 года назад +150

      one of his wives screamed when she first looked at him.

    • @urskaska
      @urskaska 3 года назад +77

      first one was french princess, but also his cousin of sorts, 2nd was german princess, her sister was a wife of austrian emperor. and she was chosen her family was known for its fertility. nasty.

    • @visitacionbihotzmaitasuna5340
      @visitacionbihotzmaitasuna5340 3 года назад +53

      Poor women! He was revolting!

    • @minorka2
      @minorka2 3 года назад +41

      @@urskaska both his wives were related to him because they had some degree of hapsburg blood

    • @Hudpix16
      @Hudpix16 3 года назад +41

      First one was a distant cousin who was in bad health and died only a few years after the marriage. She was very unhappy. The second one was a gold digger who only thought about herself and didn’t care about him or the country.

  • @vintagegal541
    @vintagegal541 3 года назад +39

    The first time that I saw Charles' portrait, I was stunned. I was so surprised that he lived as long as he did, to almost 39. I read about him and all of the inner breeding in the Spanish royal family. Another stunner was that his parents, Philip IV and Mariana of Austria, were uncle and niece. Their oldest surviving child, Margaret of Spain married her maternal uncle, Leopold I. You certainly can tell a Hapsburg in a painting by their jawline. All of the royals, until recently, did marry cousins and other relatives, but uncle to niece is a little close. The ancient did the same thing.

  • @trescareeves741
    @trescareeves741 2 года назад +4

    Omg I'm so glad somebody did this! I love history, I could listen for days! 👏👏👏

  • @runicspyder
    @runicspyder 2 года назад

    Ngl when the picture started moving I thought I was going crazy XDDD this is very well done!!!

  • @patsmith9284
    @patsmith9284 3 года назад +12

    Your videos are amazing, they are so realistic it's eerie.

  • @buteverythinghurts
    @buteverythinghurts 3 года назад +39

    And still…this goes on to this day in many cultures.

  • @pinewaves
    @pinewaves 3 года назад +7

    Wow! I never knew he had more deformities than what was shown on his portraits. Thank you for this video as it really illustrated King Carlos as he really was.

  • @manyyoumas
    @manyyoumas 2 года назад +2

    this is fascinating work you're doing, glad YT recommended you

  • @stripesb4914
    @stripesb4914 2 года назад +4

    I thought I was going insane when he started looking around. Scared the hell out of me

  • @phylliscraine
    @phylliscraine 3 года назад +31

    I enjoyed this video, it's an objective yet sympathetic view into the way that royal families used their gene pool for political gain with tragic results. Ironically, the sister of Charles II and his parents are the subject of one of most famous paintings of all time, the masterpiece "Las Meninas" by Diego Velázquez.

  • @ladyrachel13
    @ladyrachel13 3 года назад +63

    Bless his heart. He didn't ask for that.

  • @LadyCoyKoi
    @LadyCoyKoi 3 года назад +4

    All the paintings capture the pain he felt within... the eyes are a window to the soul and his was so broken. 😥😔

  • @bohemiansusan2897
    @bohemiansusan2897 3 года назад +30

    The inbreeding also caused a lot of fertility issues in Royal families all over.
    I'm going to point out Emperors Meiji and Taisho. Look at the photos. They show mandibular prognathism, like Charles Ii. The emperor's wives and concubines also had the same issue due to being too closely related. Also fertility was far below normal. Taisho married a woman more distantly related and the offspring had fewer issues. Hirohito married even a far more distant cousin and they had normal children.
    Catharine of Aragon was a third or fourth cousin to Henry VIII. She had the Habsburg jaw too.

    • @baseliacaliga
      @baseliacaliga 3 года назад +1

      I didn't know that CoA and Henry were related, though it doesn't surprise me at all, and now I wonder if it couldn't be one of the key factors of Mary Tudor's mental instabilities (alongside the awful situation she was in) and perhaps her infertility as well, although she was quite older and too married to a relative.

    • @SlapstickGenius23
      @SlapstickGenius23 2 года назад +1

      What about Emperor Yōzei? He must have been a psychopath from the start, as in what a lot of Heian nobles might have remembered.

    • @bohemiansusan2897
      @bohemiansusan2897 2 года назад

      @@SlapstickGenius23 that one was a sociopath. Interesting that the throne went to another branch of the family instead of his children. Yozei's life follows that of a serial killer and it was out in the open die to being the emperor.

    • @SlapstickGenius23
      @SlapstickGenius23 2 года назад

      @@bohemiansusan2897 was Yōzei a psychopath (raised by good parents but born without any empathy whatsoever for example) or a sociopath (raised by downright abusive parents in a cruddy environment for example)?

  • @PrinceOreoTheSavage
    @PrinceOreoTheSavage 2 года назад +5

    I just came across your channel and I love it ! I've always been fascinated with the royal family and genealogy ! you have such a calming voice , you're doing great work thank you so much!

  • @raycope2086
    @raycope2086 3 года назад +7

    What a wonderful service you are performing my friend.
    You are bringing history to life and intriguing people to delve deeper and possibly become history lovers.
    You give us a " potted history " to whet our appetites,and the special effects add layers of empathy or indeed antipathy to the subject we are learning about.
    I do hope that you enjoy what you are doing for us, and that you continue to do so for as long as you choose to do it my friend.
    I wish you rainbows.

  • @Mscrimsondragon
    @Mscrimsondragon 3 года назад +8

    Wow. Gotta say, this is the first time I am seeing one of your videos and when the recreation moved and blinked, I spit my coffee across the table 😂

  • @MarieAnnAdae
    @MarieAnnAdae 3 года назад +6

    Very interesting content. Never thought I'd need to see enhanced/animated portraits of historical figures. Brings these people to life in a different way.

  • @illicitivy
    @illicitivy 2 года назад +2

    I cant tell you how long I have been waiting for someone like you to do exactly what you do! 💜💜💜💜💜💜 thank you a hundred times over!

  • @lorenhewitt8279
    @lorenhewitt8279 2 года назад +1

    Love the in-depth work you do in these historical families.

  • @andrea6421
    @andrea6421 3 года назад +12

    You are right! It is a very tragic story. Thank you for all of your great videos! I’m enjoying every one of them ☺️

  • @everdinestenger1548
    @everdinestenger1548 3 года назад +8

    Your reconstructions are great, thanks you.

  • @stephanieyee9784
    @stephanieyee9784 3 года назад +18

    Thank you for this video. You can't help but feel sorry for poor Charles II because he really didn't stand a chance of having a good life. What a horrible existence he had. I've no doubt he'd have been laughed at behind his back Despite his illustrious bloodlines.

  • @keldonmcfarland2969
    @keldonmcfarland2969 3 года назад +4

    That family chart is mind boggling.

  • @HeyItsJarred
    @HeyItsJarred 3 года назад +1

    Your voice is so comforting to listen to

  • @vedacombs4430
    @vedacombs4430 3 года назад +22

    I can't comprehend how people thought that way I can't imagine sleeping with anyone of my family members and how they thought that was alright just fmu I know it goes on today but not as bad as it did back then even I hope because it seems that the children pays for it more than the adults. Thanks for a great video and a good job for putting it all together like you did

    • @ShiviRo
      @ShiviRo 3 года назад +6

      They tought this will keep in family the "blue blood" . Royal blood . Blood that is converted into tainted blood.

    • @annstillwell730
      @annstillwell730 3 года назад +6

      The uncle and niece marriages were really creepy. How could they think that was ok.

    • @renatovonschumacher3511
      @renatovonschumacher3511 3 года назад +4

      @@annstillwell730 The church had to give the permission for such marriages. And when the church did, it was ok. The bloodline - the dynasty - was important not the health. If, however, it was the successor to the throne who was not healthy, others ruled for him and he was just a mupped. Regarding muppets, what is the difference to todays politicians and governments ? They are muppets, too, as others in the background pull the strings. And let us be honest, not all of our politicians seem to be of good health either. And let us also not forget that also the peasants and villagers used to practice intermarriage. I was not unusual in those days and people used to have many children (up to 12 and even more) and not all of them had genetic defects.

    • @codename495
      @codename495 3 года назад +1

      Culture controls most of what you believe. Today, most cultures in the west are completely against inbreeding due to the Judeo-Christian background of the majority of westerners. It’s inbreeding isn’t at all frowned upon in many other cultures even today although I agree it is unthinkable for me. Short term inbreeding ( single generation or perhaps distant relatives) won’t cause any issues of note in majority cases. King Charles was incredibly inbred, so much so that his genetic makeup is comparable to three generations of successive sibling pairings.

    • @lotstodo
      @lotstodo 3 года назад +4

      They didn't grow up like we did, knowing their cousins and having barbecue and water fights. They would often meet for the first time on the wedding day. Also, women really had no choice, the marriage was arranged. Their sense of duty was such that they would close their eyes and hope to produce an heir.

  • @allieeverett9017
    @allieeverett9017 3 года назад +4

    Thank you for your compassionate work! Wonderful job!

  • @AlexS-oj8qf
    @AlexS-oj8qf 3 года назад +34

    It's sad that the Habsburg were blamed for the inbreeding when it's been a Royal Spanish traditions for years. The previous Dynasties that ruled Spain were often inbreeding with each others, the Trastamara, the Ivrean, the Burgundian, the Jimenez, even after the Habsburg rule ended, the tradition continues with the Bourbon.

    • @EfeFlet
      @EfeFlet 3 года назад +8

      To be honest inbreeding was (or is?) pretty common in European royal families, basically every one of them are related. The Bourbons are originally French but have been in Spain for centuries, even before the fall of the Habsburgs. Charles IV of Spain was married to a Bourbon, for example. It was all in the family I guess... But you're right, this had been a tradition from even before the Habsburgs!

  • @nattsveron9327
    @nattsveron9327 3 года назад +5

    He is probably one of the monarchs we remember the most as students I would say (in Spain). My teacher would tell us many anecdotes and facts about him, till today I see tiktoks making fun of him pretty often.

  • @loriboufford6342
    @loriboufford6342 3 года назад +1

    Right from the beginning, when you said.. "hello..." I liked the video.

  • @lauralaladarling3775
    @lauralaladarling3775 3 года назад +6

    Hello, Thank you so much for this video and images made alive! Poor Charles II had a very painful life. I too have read about his ill heath and huge malformed jaw and head etc. Eating was dreadful for him. Horrific inbreeding is a nightmare for the progeny. Xx

  • @knoophouse
    @knoophouse 3 года назад +7

    I love the history! Well done! Thank you so much!

  • @duckysprouts
    @duckysprouts 3 года назад +43

    before u guys feel bad for him remember that he invited a poor 6 year old girl with a medical condition that made her incredibly obese despite a regular diet into his court under the guise of lifting her from poverty and mockery, only to have her become the jester and laugh at her to make himself feel better about his own appearance

    • @duckysprouts
      @duckysprouts 3 года назад +24

      @Lèmon Lēe id imagine the thought process was more like: i’m ugly, girl more ugly, girl stand next to me, i’m less ugly. bullying others to make oneself feel better isn’t a big brain move, little kids do it all the time

    • @kingt0295
      @kingt0295 2 года назад +2

      @@duckysprouts its a big brain move if it worked for him

    • @AuroraX7
      @AuroraX7 2 года назад +2

      @@kingt0295 that’s one way to put it i guess

    • @Macachee
      @Macachee 2 года назад

      If he was really as disabled as reported, it may not have been all his decision.

  • @GreggyAck
    @GreggyAck 3 года назад +1

    I've think I've found my new channel to fall asleep to. This is the highest compliment, by the way.

  • @trevorguyaux652
    @trevorguyaux652 2 года назад +1

    really unique idea. kudos. keep up the original, kickass content ;) --xoxo--Mrs. G

  • @romeo4764
    @romeo4764 3 года назад +6

    “How can I face my problems if my problems are my face” -King Charles the second

    • @Anonymous-df8it
      @Anonymous-df8it 3 года назад +1

      He might (a)ct(u)ally have (t)hat 'tak(i)ng things too literally' di(s)order! That can actually happen when your (m)other and father are biologically related to each other.

  • @oriolandres1085
    @oriolandres1085 3 года назад +12

    Incredibly, the family tree of 0:50 about inbreeding is not complete. Ferdinand of Aragon and Isabella of Castile, parents of Joanna of Castile, were 2nd cousins. Philip of Castile and Joanna of Castile were 3rd cousins, and Charles V and Isabella of Portugal were 1st cousins.

  • @lilMissF0F0
    @lilMissF0F0 3 года назад +6

    his sister literally won the lottery

  • @catinsewer
    @catinsewer 3 года назад

    your voice is so soothing! very nice video :)

  • @robertahill7001
    @robertahill7001 2 года назад +1

    This is awesome piece of history and what many did not know. 😳😮Ty for sharing this amazing info' with us! 👍❤️

  • @DIEGhostfish
    @DIEGhostfish 3 года назад +5

    It's interesting, some of the branches of the family seem pretty solid. The modern Hapsburgs seem like a pretty smart and healthy bunch.

  • @DemeterTelphousia-Erinyes
    @DemeterTelphousia-Erinyes 3 года назад +62

    Excellent video. The poor man’s family, were inbred for several generations . Starting with Juana of Castile and her husband Philip, there were several niece/ uncle or cousin marriages.

    • @Alvar2001
      @Alvar2001 3 года назад +6

      Juana, not "Juanita".

    • @maryannebrown2385
      @maryannebrown2385 3 года назад +6

      @@Alvar2001 Juanita is just the diminutive form of Juana. In English, for example, if a man is named Thomas but his nickname is Tommy.

    • @Dianita1002
      @Dianita1002 3 года назад +6

      @@maryannebrown2385 yes yes but her name was Juana, not Juanita.

    • @Alvar2001
      @Alvar2001 3 года назад +6

      @@maryannebrown2385 The queen Juana wasn´t english. In Spain the diminutive is used only for children, very young people or to show affection when there is a close relationship. Juana was never known as "Juanita", not even by her parents.

    • @maryannebrown2385
      @maryannebrown2385 3 года назад +4

      @@Alvar2001 I realize all of that. My name may be English, but we are Mexican. And I am a HUGE history buff. I took the original post of “Juanita” just as a show of the poster’s affection towards this Queen that led a difficult life.

  • @nialltomy15
    @nialltomy15 3 года назад +11

    Just as the painting down plays his deformities, the contemporary and posthumous (especially) accounts must also be taken with a large pinch of salt.

  • @stevendaniel8126
    @stevendaniel8126 2 года назад +1

    Very impressive. You have quite a talent. I also enjoy the tembre of your speaking voice. Thank you.

  • @jessileigh1485
    @jessileigh1485 2 года назад +2

    You're videos are fantastic, well researched, well written, well explained. Thank you for your content, I've fallen down the rabbit hole, this is the fifth video I've watched in a row

  • @piratesfan123
    @piratesfan123 3 года назад +14

    That poor soul suffered tremendously, may he RIP, inbreeding is just pure evil

  • @macioluko9484
    @macioluko9484 2 года назад +3

    Your content is truly fascinating!!

  • @CommodoreFloopjack78
    @CommodoreFloopjack78 3 года назад +5

    When that first photo's eyes blinked, it completely caught me off guard. Super creepy.😳😬🤯

  • @lisashaw8
    @lisashaw8 3 года назад +2

    Great videos! Love the information and recreations. Well done!

  • @feralbluee
    @feralbluee 2 года назад +1

    your videos are so interesting. the new ability to make photos come alive makes history more real. the only thing we can’t possibly do is know what their habitual expressions were. how they smiled or laughed is impossible to configure. you really do a great job in giving us a semblance of how these people really looked. thanks much :) 🌷🌱🥀