THE HABSBURG: Their Inbred Family Tree was a Circle!- Explained with Real Life Faces

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  • @MortalFaces
    @MortalFaces  2 года назад +804

    AHH Emergency Correction: Joanna of Castile was the elder sister of Katherine of Aragon (not her mother). Their parents were the Catholic Monarchs of Spain, Isabella of Castile and Ferdinand of Aragon. In addition, many of the Habsburgs were also descendants of Joanna's sister, Maria of Aragon and her husband Manuel I of Portugal. Their daughter Isabella of Portugal married her first cousin Emperor Charles V.-- Thank you Marsha Vilkas
    Marie Antoinette's Inbred Habsburg Family Tree Explained: ruclips.net/video/c62KRrlEtKU/видео.html
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    Leopold I The Habsburg Jawed Glamour Boy in all his Handsomeness: ruclips.net/video/fR6H0nk-YUw/видео.html
    Philip II of Spain: Lantern Jawed and Thick Lipped Habsburg: ruclips.net/video/TIXchy_X5Q4/видео.html
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    • @kotatkocz3378
      @kotatkocz3378 2 года назад +7

      I was gonna make a comment about that xD

    • @elisaruano7704
      @elisaruano7704 2 года назад +11

      About to make a comment! Forgot how well you research your topics.....

    • @tanyasmith316
      @tanyasmith316 2 года назад +2

      Can you do romeo and Juliette

    • @OwlNightMoon
      @OwlNightMoon 2 года назад +3

      Hey. I dont sure you allow make scary person from history. If i ask you make Vlad the Impaler aka vampire, Prince of Wallachia in real life face from painting?

    • @clarkstartrek
      @clarkstartrek 2 года назад

      The Ancient Egyptian Pharoahs also practiced inbreeding and the Ptolomaic (Macedonian) Dynasy of Egypt carried it on.

  • @peterbayne7227
    @peterbayne7227 2 года назад +5080

    Royal Adviser: "Your Majesty, do you want to marry your 3rd cousin, your 2nd cousin, your 1st cousin, your niece, your sister, or your aunt?" Habsburg: "Yes."

    • @jodeeps2287
      @jodeeps2287 2 года назад +49

      👏😂

    • @kyleighwhite1409
      @kyleighwhite1409 2 года назад +269

      They’re all one person 😭😂

    • @peterbayne7227
      @peterbayne7227 2 года назад +138

      @@kyleighwhite1409 More like they are all one chin.

    • @PeterLunowPL
      @PeterLunowPL 2 года назад +12

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @MagnaMater2
      @MagnaMater2 2 года назад +21

      The question was more: do you want to keep your place in the Emperial & Spanish succession.
      Ever since Friedrich III it was all about inheriting (including poisoning relatives - at least Sigismund strongly believed that).

  • @Odin029
    @Odin029 2 года назад +4155

    This video taught me that poor Charles II was basically his own cousin.

    • @KlavierMenn
      @KlavierMenn 2 года назад +684

      And his own uncle and grandpa

    • @ahumanistpotato
      @ahumanistpotato 2 года назад +453

      STOP MY LITTLE BRAIN IS ALREADY ON FIRE

    • @fantasmaghoulical
      @fantasmaghoulical 2 года назад +31

      WHA

    • @Fweefwee6
      @Fweefwee6 2 года назад +148

      “It wasn’t me it was my cousin!”

    • @fabrislr9368
      @fabrislr9368 2 года назад +50

      It's like watching the "Dark" series 😂

  • @ludotau9077
    @ludotau9077 2 года назад +3932

    Reading about Charles' personality I feel so bad for him. his last words were "yo soy nada" "I am nothing". Feeling cursed by your body deformities, something you cannot control at birth for more than 30 years. RIP

    • @Ujuani68
      @Ujuani68 2 года назад +349

      And with no medical help like today...😰

    • @coco20165
      @coco20165 2 года назад +226

      it’s actually really sad :/

    • @foodofthegods
      @foodofthegods 2 года назад +157

      God, that’s tragic.

    • @TheLauraFacusse
      @TheLauraFacusse 2 года назад +311

      Imagine being the king of Spain, one of the most important empires at the time ,and feeling that way

    • @env0x
      @env0x 2 года назад +84

      his first words were "matame por favor"

  • @captc0ck5lap60
    @captc0ck5lap60 2 года назад +2236

    While there were no brother-sister or father-daughter level couplings, Charles 2nds dna was so heterozygous because of his lineage, he was actually more inbred than he would have been if his mother and father were a direct sibling or parent blood relative.
    Poor guy.

    • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
      @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 2 года назад +189

      Ofcourse he was worse off than if his parrents where just siblings. Direct siblings actually usually produce viable children if the inbreeding is only them and the rest of the family tree is fine.

    • @asmrtpop2676
      @asmrtpop2676 2 года назад +127

      @@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 Exactly ty. That’s what the real issue with inbreeding is-when it’s over several generations. Well besides the whole power imbalance thing.

    • @NitroTheRhino
      @NitroTheRhino 2 года назад +95

      @@asmrtpop2676 right, the "real issue". 😆

    • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
      @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 2 года назад +278

      @@asmrtpop2676 A normal person typically has 64 ancestors 6 generations back, a child born to siblings has 32 ancestors 6 generations back, Charles II had 8 ancestors 6 generations back.

    • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
      @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 2 года назад +43

      @@NitroTheRhino Well yes, the real issue with marrying relatives is that imbreeding depression will make your desendants cripples.

  • @marthahawkinson-michau9611
    @marthahawkinson-michau9611 2 года назад +1713

    Keep in mind, for every single one of these closely related marriages, the Hapsburgs had to both request and receive a dispensation from the Catholic Church. It’s amazing what’s possible for the fabulously wealthy royal houses of Europe.

    • @konyvnyelv.
      @konyvnyelv. 2 года назад +50

      And the Church allowed this???

    • @marthahawkinson-michau9611
      @marthahawkinson-michau9611 2 года назад +166

      @@konyvnyelv. Sadly, yes. Papal dispensations aren’t really that hard to acquire if your best friend is the pope.
      I think and hope the church has made getting a dispensation harder since then. It’s really not a good idea to keep marrying your close relatives for several generations. Once every 200 years marrying a first cousin is fine, as long as there is plenty of “out” marriage to keep the genes mixing. Every generation for several generations was definitely not ok.

    • @robins5044
      @robins5044 2 года назад +31

      Thank you for sharing that. As he was speaking I was wondering how these marriages were arranged and sanctioned.

    • @konyvnyelv.
      @konyvnyelv. 2 года назад +31

      @@marthahawkinson-michau9611 I heard the church helped fighting the power of many landlords by banning incest up to 6th grade cousins. I'm not sure anyway since marrying cousins was common in the past. But they surely accepted that with the emperors which is not right.

    • @user-hv6wb5gk8p
      @user-hv6wb5gk8p 2 года назад +57

      @@marthahawkinson-michau9611 Marrying 2nd and 3rd cousins was a surprisingly normal for most of human history. That being said 30%+ child mortality was also normal for most of human history so I'm certainly not defending the practice.

  • @elise85391
    @elise85391 2 года назад +2207

    So when I looked at it, it looks like Charles had 4 unique great-great-great-great grandparents instead of 64. Which is wild

    • @rosiebeauchêne
      @rosiebeauchêne 2 года назад +252

      I didn’t even realize that till you pointed it out, and had to retrace it myself. Agreed, that is so WILD. That poor child…

    • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
      @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 2 года назад +96

      A child born to siblings will have 32...

    • @sanhakim1335
      @sanhakim1335 2 года назад +25

      Wouldn't it be 8 cause of francis 1

    • @elise85391
      @elise85391 2 года назад +77

      @@sanhakim1335 I think you're right. But even 8 is really bad

    • @foscogrubb
      @foscogrubb 2 года назад +96

      It's wild to think only 4 generations back is 64 people that needed to exist for you to be alive.

  • @jodeeps2287
    @jodeeps2287 2 года назад +1447

    Amazing that you were able to put this together, I got lost within the first 5 minutes. Excellent job.

    • @dorderre
      @dorderre 2 года назад +44

      Ignoring the exact terminology of their relationships, it's noticeable that outside-genes only came into the family for the first two generations. The next four! generations were all between closely related individuals.

  • @anarchy6304
    @anarchy6304 2 года назад +883

    i heard that their family was also considered cursed because of the physical and mental damage and the amount of them who died as children as a result of it, which i assume would make them more likely to marry in the family since no one else would

    • @maggiemae7539
      @maggiemae7539 2 года назад +25

      Wasn’t a curse. It’s sin

    • @lightyagami3492
      @lightyagami3492 2 года назад +113

      @@maggiemae7539 we realize that i think the OP was simply explaining the rational of the time.

    • @mati.benapezo
      @mati.benapezo 2 года назад +11

      People tend to take things literally, it's annoying sometimes.

    • @qwertykeyboard5901
      @qwertykeyboard5901 2 года назад +34

      I mean, who the FUCK would marry them?

    • @asd3601
      @asd3601 2 года назад +30

      @@qwertykeyboard5901 their other family members of course, but seriously the Habsburgs were the most powerful people in Europe anyone would marry in

  • @waterfallsandrain
    @waterfallsandrain 2 года назад +1644

    It amazes me that, by the 1600s, these people were still fertile.

    • @chedelirio6984
      @chedelirio6984 2 года назад +173

      Gotta remember, even in inbreeding, genes do get internally shuffled in gametogenesis, and each of us has "spare" genetic material. In this case apparently it was one of those things where the damage cound stumble along accumulating for a while before just failing catastrophically.

    • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
      @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 2 года назад +87

      Well Charles 2 of Spain was infertile.

    • @rowanjoy419
      @rowanjoy419 2 года назад

      @@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 hahahaha yeah he was, finally , it took 4 lines of inbreed to one of them be infertile.

    • @twingytwango6971
      @twingytwango6971 2 года назад +26

      Well the present Queen and her husband were cousins......says enough.....

    • @ginnundso
      @ginnundso 2 года назад +15

      @@twingytwango6971 Wait Queen Elisabeth and Prince Philipp were cousins?

  • @donkfail1
    @donkfail1 2 года назад +437

    When your family tree starts looking like a bush, you better start marrying some new blood into it.
    When it looks like a pretzel, like here, just start adopting.

    • @heathergarnham9555
      @heathergarnham9555 2 года назад +25

      It's interesting that when they did start bringing in fresh blood they had multiple children, most of whom reached adulthood. With few mental or physical disabilities

    • @MsLilly200
      @MsLilly200 2 года назад

      @@heathergarnham9555 Probably cause no matter how bad the inbred parent was, it got cut down by 50% by the new blood.

    • @irissupercoolsy
      @irissupercoolsy 2 года назад +16

      Adopt a daughter and a son, so they can still marry each other 🤡🤡🤡

    • @donkfail1
      @donkfail1 2 года назад

      @@irissupercoolsy Sure. You can't expect to end a family tradition of incest cold turkey. ;)

    • @jirachi-wishmaker9242
      @jirachi-wishmaker9242 2 года назад

      Lmfao thanks for the advice!

  • @aidanm131
    @aidanm131 2 года назад +513

    A genetic pool so shallow you couldn't even drown in it. For real though, I think this is the first time I've ever followed one of these family tree videos so kudos to you on a job well done.

    • @LRM12o8
      @LRM12o8 2 года назад +22

      It's a genetic puddle! 😂

    • @cyborggunslinger4230
      @cyborggunslinger4230 2 года назад +1

      Same as Alabama

    • @tjenadonn6158
      @tjenadonn6158 2 года назад +11

      @@LRM12o8 That's generous. A genetic teaspoon more like it.

    • @sawtooth808
      @sawtooth808 Год назад

      @@cyborggunslinger4230 the only difference was in stead of the Banjo, someone the Hapsburg family played a lute (people in medieval Spain were told to stay away from the one armed man playing the lute)

  • @Malbeefance
    @Malbeefance 2 года назад +485

    Their family reunions must have also been singles match ups. To bad we don't have any records of their individual thoughts on this mate-taking strategy. I would find it fascinating to read what they thought about it.

    • @noelaguirrechavez4462
      @noelaguirrechavez4462 2 года назад +82

      I can picture someone saying "go talk to your cousin" and you just go talk to literally anyone

    • @kompatybilijny9348
      @kompatybilijny9348 2 года назад +38

      Power and money stays in the family = GOOD

    • @Malbeefance
      @Malbeefance 2 года назад +21

      @@kompatybilijny9348 Yep, and that's not all that stayed in the family.

    • @lovelydolltime8006
      @lovelydolltime8006 2 года назад

      They knew that inbreeding was bad, but they did it anyways under the excuse of "keeping the bloodline pure".

    • @Malbeefance
      @Malbeefance 2 года назад +18

      @@lovelydolltime8006 Jokes on them in that inbreeding does the exact opposite of keeping the blood line pure.

  • @miko3895
    @miko3895 Год назад +65

    My grandmother came from these lines of ancestry. She suffered from thin blood, Hemophilia. It was very bad, a tiny cut would bleed badly. Sometimes having to be cauterized in the hospital. She almost bled to death giving birth to my mother. She was born with an extra head on her torso. It was removed when she was a teenager. It had hair, and a mouth with teeth. She was born in 1920. She was an extremely beautiful woman. And very kind and intelligent. I loved her very much. I miss her . thanks for your interest in our family tree.

    • @ssnowstarr4985
      @ssnowstarr4985 Год назад +9

      what was her name? is there any more info about her? I'm sorry for your loss

    • @VladRadu-tq1pg
      @VladRadu-tq1pg Год назад

      this is such bullshit

    • @ravenzyblack
      @ravenzyblack 8 месяцев назад +4

      That sounds like she absorbed her twin, but not all of it.

  • @Alex-mn1fb
    @Alex-mn1fb 2 года назад +431

    The interesting thing is that Charles II had an older, (ostensibly healthy ) full sister Margaret Theresa ( of the Velasquez's painting fame ), who was betrothed and eventually married to their own maternal uncle from the Austrian Habsburg line, Emperor Leopold I ( who looked just as bad as Charles II with the jaw and face deformities imo, but was clearly more functioning in regard to his health and mental faculties). That would have been another uncle-niece marriage in the family, making their descendants even more inbred then Charles' level of inbreeding. But the young Empress Margaret Theresa died young and they produced only a single daughter, who, funnily enough, seemed pretty normal in comparison, in fact she married and had children of her own. Genetics and inbreeding is so unpredictable :D

    • @Schaemia
      @Schaemia 2 года назад +77

      Could be that Margaret was the milkman's kid lol

    • @ahumanistpotato
      @ahumanistpotato 2 года назад +21

      Maybe it affected women less? Idk I'm probably wrong

    • @asd3601
      @asd3601 2 года назад +52

      @@ahumanistpotato think of it like rolling a bunch of dice and every time you roll them all a face of the dice becomes unusable so each time you roll you could keep coming up fine but sometimes you might get unlucky

    • @gwingobingo
      @gwingobingo 2 года назад +77

      @@ahumanistpotato I think part of it is that X-linked disorders primarily affect men (who have XY), so some of the more rare/apparent deformities were more prevalent in males (females are XX, so they have more of a chance to have a "normal"/dominant phenotype mask the recessive/deformed phenotype; males only have one X, so if a recessive/deformed gene exists, they are stuck with it).

    • @sariel8406
      @sariel8406 2 года назад

      It doesn't matter if she look normal. She carry the genes.

  • @angelwhispers2060
    @angelwhispers2060 2 года назад +198

    The uncle's creeping on their nieces is what really doomed this whole situation

    • @malisle13descendantslover46
      @malisle13descendantslover46 5 месяцев назад +5

      What makes that even worse is Marianna of Austria was originally betrothed to Phillip the fourth son from his previous marriage before the son passed after which Phillip chose to marry his niece or Holy Roman emperor Leopold I insist his new bride call him uncle (who was his niece and she was the sister of Charles II) 🤮.

  • @frankvandorp2059
    @frankvandorp2059 2 года назад +508

    This family tree could be a fun picture for a game, "how many circles can you find in this picture?" I think there might be more than 40.

  • @VampiraVonGhoulscout
    @VampiraVonGhoulscout 2 года назад +473

    Plot twist: The Crimson Chin from Fairily Odd Parents is actually a Habsburg.

    • @PancakemonsterFO4
      @PancakemonsterFO4 2 года назад +10

      I don't think inbreeding gives you superpowers tho

    • @manowa3395
      @manowa3395 2 года назад +43

      @@PancakemonsterFO4 The mental instability will make you believe you have powers though!

    • @rudeboyjohn3483
      @rudeboyjohn3483 2 года назад +8

      Inesert Captain America meme here.
      "I understood that reference"

    • @johnaustin209
      @johnaustin209 Год назад +4

      "A chin that can hit a homerun".

  • @TheSolidSnakeOil
    @TheSolidSnakeOil 2 года назад +207

    The best quote I've ever heard about the Holy Roman Empire was: "It was neither Holy, Roman, or an Empire."

  • @lillith3159
    @lillith3159 2 года назад +225

    i´ve seen worst. The Ptolemaic dinasty wasnt even a circle, it was a straight up stick

    • @WEFAbender6
      @WEFAbender6 2 года назад +14

      A stick? So they just budded off each other?

    • @lillith3159
      @lillith3159 2 года назад +57

      @@WEFAbender6 There were a lot of brother-sister marriages in that dinasty.

    • @WEFAbender6
      @WEFAbender6 2 года назад +43

      @@lillith3159 oh so like this?
      ----

    • @lillith3159
      @lillith3159 2 года назад +6

      @MirroredVoid mostly yes

    • @asd3601
      @asd3601 2 года назад +15

      @@lillith3159 and mother -son, father -daughter

  • @Pemberley78
    @Pemberley78 2 года назад +248

    Holy crap what a nightmare! Thanks for the meticulous research. I’ve always been fascinated to Juana of Castile (or Juana la loca) and now to see the nightmare of descendants she and Philip (the handsome) gave to the world - it makes your head spin. Loving your channel - keep them coming. I enjoy it all.

  • @bloodaid
    @bloodaid Год назад +18

    Charles father was also his fathers neices son.
    Charles grandmother was also his aunt.
    Charles great grandmother was also his grandfathers aunt, and his grandmothers were both wife and daughter in the same family.
    No matter how you twist and turn it, pretty much all of them are related.

  • @judycasley108
    @judycasley108 2 года назад +133

    This was a fantastic presentation! I appreciated the colored linear connections.

  • @ambioniskariot5069
    @ambioniskariot5069 2 года назад +198

    Charles II. had a sister, Margaret Theresa , which will marry her Uncle, Emperor Leopold. But this wasn't even the worst that could have happened. Both had a halfbrother, John Joseph of Austria. Don John wanted to marry his halfsister! This was even too much for the Habsburgs and he was excluded from regency in spain. (Interesting question, if marriage with the halfbrother would have been less inbreeding then with her uncle).

    • @cratorcic9362
      @cratorcic9362 2 года назад +67

      It’s a bad sign for a dynasty when the idea of a half-brother half-sister marriage is less dangerous than the uncle-niece one.
      Margaret Theresa and Leopold had a daughter, by the way, who was the most inbred Habsburg of them all… and also, miraculously, completely free of inbreeding-related deformities.
      No, I am not sure how that works. But thank God Charles didn’t live long enough to marry her

    • @luciesimpson6437
      @luciesimpson6437 2 года назад

      @@cratorcic9362 The thing about inbreeding is the high risk of having multiple copies of deleterious alleles or the faulty genes that cause genetic diseases, but it's not a guarantee because of the random factor of meiosis and the effect of developmental epigenetics. It also doesn't affect mutation.
      So, it is perfectly possible for an inbred person to be extremely lucky!

    • @mirjanbouma
      @mirjanbouma 2 года назад +21

      @@cratorcic9362 I'm not saying that there was a healthy dose of outsider genetic input to make the daughter (if you know what I mean)... But that would explain the lack of deformities.

    • @andreabartels3176
      @andreabartels3176 2 года назад +54

      Many genetic problems show up in males, because the XY combination for males is less likely to have a substitute for a damaged gene. Like hemophilia, women are usually only carriers, the second healthy X-chromosone overrides the faulty one. Not possible for males, faulty X-chromosone, Y-chromosome cannot override, bleeding disorder.
      It is not obvious in this map, but the Habsburg family had more surviving daughters.

    • @mirjanbouma
      @mirjanbouma 2 года назад

      @@andreabartels3176 that's also a very good point!

  • @Nyctophora
    @Nyctophora 2 года назад +78

    Marrying your first cousin is somewhat wonky but surely aunts and uncles marrying nephews and nieces is just illegal? ... well, I guess not if you're rich enough to ... pay for legal incest? Thank you for managing to follow all this!
    If you're a royal family, always remember to marry in some strapping peasants every once in a while!

    • @Kiyoone
      @Kiyoone 2 года назад +6

      This is how the elites stay in power and the rich people stay rich... jeez... just imagine what they can do with the technology of today... just imagine.

    • @NeeleshVerma-s2e
      @NeeleshVerma-s2e 3 месяца назад +1

      Egyptian Pharaoh married their sister even some Pharaoh married their daughter

  • @rebeccaherschman1635
    @rebeccaherschman1635 2 года назад +122

    They say that going out of the family would make them less noble ; hence the name "Blueblood", keeping the family fortune within the family also increased the families wealth

    • @naturallykiera5063
      @naturallykiera5063 2 года назад +7

      Thanks cause my only question was WHY?!?!

    • @angelwhispers2060
      @angelwhispers2060 2 года назад

      Blue Blood also became a derogatory term for the super inbred hemophiliac blood from Queen Victoria and all mine of her children that poisoned all of the remaining European monarchies.

    • @angelwhispers2060
      @angelwhispers2060 2 года назад

      @@naturallykiera5063 when you're wealth and power are entirely dependent on personal inheritance. Weird s*** happens...

  • @Mx.Phoenix
    @Mx.Phoenix 2 года назад +81

    I think the wildest thing about the Habsburgs is the fact there is still a surviving line of them!

    • @johnaustin209
      @johnaustin209 Год назад +13

      I looked it up. True, Ferdinand Habsburg is the youngest of the line, born 1997.

    • @VladRadu-tq1pg
      @VladRadu-tq1pg Год назад

      bruh a habsburg is 2 years younger than me wtf@@johnaustin209

    • @chilenapromedioRU
      @chilenapromedioRU Год назад +1

      There's an Austrian branch that kept away from inbreeding, those who didn't kept huge royal titles, and it's not "patrilineal", as far as I know.
      But the Spaniard branch ended with Charles II of Spain. Not sure how they kept the Habsburg family name in Austria, though.

    • @RobertJohnson-hp4gz
      @RobertJohnson-hp4gz Год назад

      Many of them are still ugly, some with serious medical conditions. Their ancestors severely damaged the bloodline and I’d never have a child with anyone related to this family (let alone take their last name).

    • @Charles-gk7xx
      @Charles-gk7xx 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@chilenapromedioRU the current Habsburg line is descendant of Empress Maria Theresa who is a great-granddaughter of Ferdinand the 3rd in the graphic in this video. They the main-line since no male branches existed.
      They arent from a minor line by any means. Their agnatic line is also another major House of Europe- House of Lorraine.

  • @isaacgraff8288
    @isaacgraff8288 2 года назад +70

    Funny thing is, most 'dumb farming peasants' probably looked at this and realized the problem.

    • @radhiadeedou8286
      @radhiadeedou8286 2 года назад

      Would peasants know any details about royals lives?

    • @christopherthompson5400
      @christopherthompson5400 2 года назад +15

      @@radhiadeedou8286 because they were nobility and in charge of everyone.And paraded around taxing up the wazoo printing their face on the money maybe.

    • @mula8431
      @mula8431 2 года назад +1

      @@christopherthompson5400 Ah yes, the dollar bills of the 1600‘

    • @christopherthompson5400
      @christopherthompson5400 2 года назад

      @@mula8431 sorry I meant pebbles my bad.

    • @mikespangler98
      @mikespangler98 Год назад +8

      Anyone with experience in animal breeding would have seen the problem.
      Gregor Mendel was born in 1822, and didn't publish until 1865, too late to be of any help.

  • @BeeKool__113
    @BeeKool__113 2 года назад +224

    Great video as always! Interesting! I knew Charles II was incredibly inbred but I didn't realize the degree of the shallowness of his genetic pool.

    • @ambioniskariot5069
      @ambioniskariot5069 2 года назад +7

      Later on Alfonso XII. will be even more inbred then Charles II. was (if his parents are his real parents).

    • @BeeKool__113
      @BeeKool__113 2 года назад +1

      @@ambioniskariot5069 Right?!!! Yeahhh!! Totally!! Yikes!!

    • @LRM12o8
      @LRM12o8 2 года назад +1

      More like a genetic puddle, amirite? 😂

  • @skidart9063
    @skidart9063 2 года назад +31

    they probably had their birthday cards custom made. can't see alot of "happy birthday uncle dad" cards being very common

  • @xcape4734
    @xcape4734 2 года назад +804

    The crazy part is their portraits are purposefully made to look better so the family actually looked even more strange in real life.

    • @alfredodistefanolaulhe2212
      @alfredodistefanolaulhe2212 2 года назад +27

      Not at all, look for people from late XVIII and early XIX photographs and pictures and compare, for instance, Alexander Von
      humbold, born in 1769, you have painted portraits and photograph of him, and he looks quite the same.

    • @GaelinW
      @GaelinW 2 года назад +32

      @@alfredodistefanolaulhe2212 - I imagine the point was that in many cases, portraits especially of royalty, were made to look better when necessary. There's another channel that talks about Queen Victoria and her consort, Albert who had portraits and were also photographed. There is a noticeable difference in appearance.

    • @Parasiteve
      @Parasiteve Год назад +22

      which is why i laugh when people think king tut and cleopatra were "beautiful". all their art was made to make them look less ugly because of inbreeding and i mean they got what they wanted, people these days dont think they're ugly inbreds but beautiful kings and queens.

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA Год назад +15

      You can notice all skin in portraits is always smooth. I but many of them had horrible skin conditions that we can't see.

  • @DeadCanDerp
    @DeadCanDerp 2 года назад +24

    Funny how the song "I'm My Own Grandpa" deftly avoids any inbreeding whatsoever. It seems the Habsburgs tried to go for the same vibe but were willy-nilly with their approach.

  • @DemeterTelphousia-Erinyes
    @DemeterTelphousia-Erinyes 2 года назад +6

    The Empire wasn’t divided into the Austrian and Spanish branches until Charles V abdicated . His Spanish possessions went to his son Philip II of Spain and his brother, Ferdinand became Holy Roman Emperor and took the Austrian/ Eastern lands.
    Absolutely loved this video. Despite studying the Habsburgs for a long time, I’ve not seen the family tree so we’ll explained.

  • @aliasmarg8ta127
    @aliasmarg8ta127 2 года назад +19

    In the 80's I worked with this woman whose last name is Wong. She introduced the man she was dating to her family. Her Grandma said "You can't date him, he's you cousin". She was shocked because they are not related. She is 3rd generation Canadian and his family actually immigrated from Malta. Her Mom explained to her that the older generation considered anyone with same last name as "family".

  • @kaycee1076
    @kaycee1076 2 года назад +29

    The idea of a family tree being a circle is wild enough, but when you look at Ferdinand's line and how many times his descendants had kids with Charles V's and Isabella's descendants, then that circle quickly becomes a fucking wheel!

  • @Thomas-nm1ft
    @Thomas-nm1ft 2 года назад +18

    the crazy thing about this family tree isn't that its a circle, its how many circles it has in it

  • @mwallace2628
    @mwallace2628 2 года назад +55

    Trying to follow that family tree, even with the explanation, made my brain hurt. I try not to judge the past with today's standards and morals, but...damn.

    • @221b-l3t
      @221b-l3t Год назад +3

      It was considered plenty wrong back then but morality is for the plebs.

  • @private9173
    @private9173 2 года назад +36

    If you ignore Phillip and Joanne at the top and Charles at the bottom there are 26 people coupling up and only 5 of them introduced new genetics (i.e. Weren't family) 🤔

    • @visenyatargaryen9130
      @visenyatargaryen9130 2 года назад +1

      It's actually 4, not 5. From Bohemia, Denmark, Bavaria, and Lorraine.
      Isabella from Portugal was actually a maternal first cousin of his husband, Charles V.

  • @fusionplayzgames7844
    @fusionplayzgames7844 Год назад +8

    I almost cried with being overwhelmed when he talked about their relationship.. Like 3rd cousins over and over I literally snapped because my 8th grader brain can't process such an amount of incest😭

  • @shoeshiner9314
    @shoeshiner9314 2 года назад +17

    I can't believe someone made me understand the habsburgs. 10/10

  • @etanaedelman9011
    @etanaedelman9011 2 года назад +42

    Even creepier is that Charles only living sister, Margaret Theresa, married her uncle Leopold and they had one daughter who was the most inbred of all the Habsburgs. Neither women were deformed like Charles, but they both struggled to have children and died in their early 20s, so you couldn't exactly say they came out unscathed. Leopold had more kids and they lived longer because their mother was only Leopold's third cousin.

  • @ArawnsFire
    @ArawnsFire 2 года назад +73

    Historically the women of the Hapsburg line would never concede to reverse cowgirl . Why ? Because they never turn their back on family .

  • @beatrixjones2982
    @beatrixjones2982 2 года назад +5

    I’ve become addicted to your channel. Fantastic job keeping everything interesting. .

  • @campflyingdragon2863
    @campflyingdragon2863 2 года назад +17

    When your family tree looks like a tournament bracket lol

  • @andreiamendes9116
    @andreiamendes9116 2 года назад +152

    I would like to see you recreate Isabella of Portugal: the Empress wife of Charles V, the Emperor of Austrian Empire, mentioned in the video.
    She was very beautiful and very intelligent in politics and diplomacy. There's a wonderful painting of her in her youth.
    Greetings from Portugal!

    • @mkuti-childress3625
      @mkuti-childress3625 2 года назад +11

      YES. She was absolutely beautiful by any standards, even with some of the old painting techniques that made people look really different. I’ve wanted to see her in a video like this since I first saw her image in a painting. 💕

    • @andreiamendes9116
      @andreiamendes9116 2 года назад +2

      Her most famous portrait is the one painted by Ticiano.
      It's in the Prado Museum in Madrid.

    • @graceneilitz7661
      @graceneilitz7661 2 года назад +1

      Isabella of Portugal was Charles V’s first cousin. As her mother and his mother were sisters, with Charles’s mother being older.

  • @Aster_Risk
    @Aster_Risk 2 года назад +48

    Wow. The end bit there was ridiculous. It really illustrated just how bad the inbreeding was.

  • @Razz415
    @Razz415 2 года назад +23

    I'm not as well versed on Habsburgs but just imagine how much they could have grown their empire if they looked outside the family reunion for spouses. This line could have reached out all over the world!

    • @ravenzyblack
      @ravenzyblack 8 месяцев назад +2

      That’s what Queen Victoria did with all of her children. She was known as the “grandmother of Europe.”

  • @matthewcastleton2263
    @matthewcastleton2263 2 года назад +20

    It makes sense why being sterile is often a product of inbreeding: because it’s nature’s way of stopping further inbreeding from happening. Reading all of this makes my stomach churn and it makes me feel like I’m gonna puke. I have nieces from my brother’s marriage and my sister’s marriage. The thought of marrying one of them and then having sexual relations with one of them… god that’s so disgusting. Ew ew ew ew ew. That’s literally what the Hapsburgs did. Ew…..

    • @badflamer
      @badflamer 11 месяцев назад

      Look, I need to make it clear that I am not in any way defending either the social nor biological production of incest in any form.
      That said, you are also wildly misunderstanding the mentalities at play and the social dynamics formed through aristocracy. These weren't "go sit on your uncle's lap so he can tell you kids some fun holiday stories by the fire" uncle-niece relationships. Aristocrats have been rather infamously isolated in their manses and castles, attended daily by servants treated more like robots than people. It's why their great and many social gatherings are so important to them and why they all had rampant affairs and infidelity. They're all touch starved, emotionally neglected, socially unadjusted, traumatised tyrant-hermits,-their inbreeding being only a cherry on top in regards to their social behaviour and seemingly inhuman propensity for cruelty and depravity.
      so, focusing on how 'you would NEVER even IMAGINE with YOUR nieces' is completely pointless in any meaningful analysis of how these things happen, what social systems and structures reinforce them, and how to prevent such dynamics from replicating in society as we go forward.
      tl;dr stop virtue signalling, it helps no one and furthers the conversation in no way.

  • @AuroraBlood
    @AuroraBlood 2 года назад +137

    Wow you show this in a manner that it is very easy to follor this clusterfuck of a family line.
    I am Finnish, and I don't know what the "twice removed" and " x times over" mean. That makes genealogy sometimes difficult to grasp. This is not your fault! I need to google a bit and learn what it means.
    You could also make an easy to watch -type of video where you explain what those terms mean in ELI5 -fashion.
    I love your work, thank you!!

    • @kltanisha
      @kltanisha 2 года назад +36

      Twice removed would mean your cousin is either two generational gaps above or below you, so your first cousin once removed would mean either your parent’s first cousin or the child of your first cousin. Complicated to link it within the Habsburgs

    • @AlexisTwoLastNames
      @AlexisTwoLastNames 2 года назад +31

      trust me, even english speakers in america (where i think these terms are most common? tbh that’s a total guess) like myself struggle with this. i had to google it to remind myself even tho i read all about it and even did some practice on my own family tree about a year ago lol.

    • @scott19087
      @scott19087 2 года назад +17

      @@AlexisTwoLastNames cool of you to admit, guess every language has those things where even as a native speaker you don’t know what’s going on lol. Learn something everyday

    • @hayliedlr
      @hayliedlr 2 года назад +4

      Im American and I don't know what the twice removed means either.

    • @mariagabbott
      @mariagabbott 2 года назад +2

      @@kltanisha I though cousin once removed is the child of your first cousin, cousin twice removed is the child of your parents first cousin? Haha now I'm confused 🤦‍♀️

  • @youwerethere
    @youwerethere 10 месяцев назад +3

    Philip and Joanna: "We will make a better future for our children."
    Charles, Ferdi and Isabella: "We will make a better future for our children."
    The future generations: "You wanna get horrific deformities? No? Too bad!"

  • @Inddesign
    @Inddesign 2 года назад +33

    Even before, the trastamaras were also quite inbred.
    I get it, for the royal houses is not about Taste but politics and religion, but still creepy...

    • @ravenzyblack
      @ravenzyblack 8 месяцев назад

      It was also about land and wealth.

  • @andreiamendes9116
    @andreiamendes9116 2 года назад +7

    Another great video with wonderful details, both historic and talented recreative technologie. Congrats!!

  • @Knappa22
    @Knappa22 2 года назад +28

    They were like a generation away from having webbed fingers and tails lol

    • @cruisecontrol7911
      @cruisecontrol7911 Год назад

      😭😭😭😭😭

    • @condor2279
      @condor2279 Год назад +3

      Thank God their reproductive ability gave out when it did.

  • @renee176
    @renee176 2 года назад +44

    Were there no other royalty outside of the family available for marriage for this family at all...I'm totally confused! Thank you for the breakdown of the family history, this was fascinating!

    • @lilitharam44
      @lilitharam44 2 года назад +41

      There were a lot of other European royalty for them to marry, they chose not to. I'm not sure of all the reasons exactly, but speculation would guess that they had monetary reasons to marry in their family and consolidation of power.

    • @bangscutter
      @bangscutter 2 года назад +23

      There were other nobilities as well, but for royalty to marry down with a noble is a downgrade of one's social status, so they didn't do it. Marriage among royalty was mainly a political tool then, and due to the circumstances of European politics then, they didn't have much choice to choose from if they limited themselves to just royal families. Then of course, there is also the monetary reason for keeping the wealth within the dynasty.

    • @chedelirio6984
      @chedelirio6984 2 года назад +13

      Part of the issue was that these were not so much marriages as they were alliance treaties to make sure the lands and titles of the Houses did not pass to others, and that the respective monarchs would feel bound by family ties to back each other.

    • @AeronKabutoBlade
      @AeronKabutoBlade 2 года назад +11

      Also, around this time most European royal families were either Protestant - a big no-no for the "more Catholic than the Pope" Habsburgs - or French, the hated rivals.

    • @chilenapromedioRU
      @chilenapromedioRU Год назад

      They were trying to keep all the kingdoms and wealth within "the family". To avoid conflict.
      But that didn't stop Queen Victoria's grandsons to send most of their "subjects" to die, specially Whilhem.

  • @Ideo7Z
    @Ideo7Z 2 года назад +16

    Everybody memes Alabama for incest jokes. But Habsburgs/European nobility and Pharaonic Egypt will be the memes I'll be using from here on in.

  • @roastbread
    @roastbread 2 года назад +1

    I love how you talking slowly so us viewers can understand

  • @The_Notorious_N.O.E.
    @The_Notorious_N.O.E. 2 года назад +9

    Once removed, twice removed, three times removed, four times removed .... apparently not removed enough

  • @karinkreamer8071
    @karinkreamer8071 2 года назад +15

    Check out the earlier Tastàmara dynasty before Isabella and Ferdinand. They were not as bad as the Habsburgs but they were definitely marrying close relations which could contribute to the physical health of their descendents.

    • @aracelysanchez3837
      @aracelysanchez3837 Год назад +1

      Late reply but yes Isabella of Castile’s mother was a product of half -uncle niece union

  • @kerstinklenovsky239
    @kerstinklenovsky239 2 года назад +3

    Your historic recreations have great recreational value. 👍

  • @vegamctavish
    @vegamctavish Год назад +2

    Teacher: „Okay class, today we are going to draw our family tree!“
    The Alabama exchange student:

  • @MagnificentlyHighAlien
    @MagnificentlyHighAlien Год назад +3

    "do you have any cousins?"
    "yeah, I'm one of them."

  • @Bearssuperfan
    @Bearssuperfan 2 года назад +3

    11th grade Spanish teacher jokingly brought out this on paper and told us to practice our vocabulary for families.

  • @hayn3996
    @hayn3996 2 года назад +4

    This gives a new meaning to getting together in a family circle singing loud.

  • @samanthajo1987
    @samanthajo1987 2 года назад +3

    WOW, loved how detailed you were!!!

  • @かいぶつおくらみ
    @かいぶつおくらみ 2 года назад +21

    I love your videos but I admit this time I had to pay more attention because omg this family tree is a mess, thank you for explaining it patiently, keep up the good work

    • @ravenzyblack
      @ravenzyblack 8 месяцев назад +1

      I got so lost at the end of it. I couldn’t keep up. My brain started hurting.😂

  • @hollerinwoman
    @hollerinwoman 2 года назад +19

    The Hapsburg Family tree was a wreath!

  • @Jellyfish146
    @Jellyfish146 2 года назад +5

    It's so nice to know I live in a family where everybody has one clear title. Everybody is just one thing and we all have normal problems.

  • @birdsocks9083
    @birdsocks9083 2 года назад +4

    It feels like a paradox to consider your 1st cousin and 1st cousin once removed, like you’re not actually 1st cousin once removed, you’re like, their 1st cousin x2 or something.

  • @thomasnesmith5426
    @thomasnesmith5426 2 года назад +4

    I knew about the details of this long before I saw this video, but holy Habsburgs Batman. This really drove the point home just how messy it really got in the end.

  • @pa209
    @pa209 2 года назад +3

    Wow! My head is spinning! Great video!

  • @omomo202
    @omomo202 2 года назад +23

    To be fair, Ferdinand III looks like someone you’d see in Beverley Hills right now: swollen lips, chin implant, etc. Have you seen Botched?!?
    The moral of the story is ….. if you want to feel upper class, you must have a distorted face.

    • @christopherthompson5400
      @christopherthompson5400 2 года назад

      when you've lost all humanity. Try losing a little more for some power, then you'll get there.

    • @ravenzyblack
      @ravenzyblack 8 месяцев назад

      @@christopherthompson5400- It wasn’t always just about power. It was also about land and wealth, and keeping it within the family.

  • @Westdesign03
    @Westdesign03 2 года назад +17

    One more. If you haven’t done him already, I’ve always wanted to know what Alexander the Great looked like.

  • @fallenangelofoz8726
    @fallenangelofoz8726 2 года назад +16

    I was joking all those times when I described the Hapsburg family tree was a hula hoop. I didn't know how accurate I was!

  • @steved3001
    @steved3001 2 года назад +34

    Charles was spawned from the shallow end of the gene pool.

    • @lisamckennon3025
      @lisamckennon3025 2 года назад

      Charles is what happens when you repeatedly pee in your gene pool!!!

    • @elric_310
      @elric_310 2 года назад +3

      the gene spoon*

  • @Alinor24
    @Alinor24 2 года назад +8

    They really liked the names Maria and Anna. Especially combined.

    • @ravenzyblack
      @ravenzyblack 8 месяцев назад

      Don’t forget Charles and Ferdinand and Phillip.

  • @saltoftheearth8324
    @saltoftheearth8324 2 года назад +9

    Keep the videos coming!!

  • @shiroamakusa8075
    @shiroamakusa8075 2 года назад +9

    Philip II looks like Tom Felton. If they ever do a historical movie involving that era, I totally want him now to play Philip II.

  • @andpad8380
    @andpad8380 2 года назад +32

    I wonder what would Charles II's kids look like. They would probably be horribly disfigured etc.

    • @yarrr275
      @yarrr275 2 года назад +1

      Yeah, they would've been so horribly disfigured that nature simply just didn't allow it anymore

    • @YvieT81
      @YvieT81 2 года назад +38

      I think the video on him explained he didn’t manage to reproduce… I’m even surprised he managed to breathe..

    • @aequoria2949
      @aequoria2949 2 года назад +10

      I read that his family actually planned at one point to marry him to his niece (his sister’s daughter). Thankfully, nothing came of it. I don’t want to imagine what their children would have looked like!

    • @andreabartels3176
      @andreabartels3176 2 года назад +2

      I think he was married, but never sired children. With this genetic mess, I'm not sure if viable offspring were even possible anymore.

    • @ravenzyblack
      @ravenzyblack 8 месяцев назад

      @@andreabartels3176- He was married twice, and never produced any children.

  • @mario_1683
    @mario_1683 2 года назад +24

    Where did you get that photo in the thumbnail from, i think its Ferdinand III? It looks so realistic like a real photo, really like imagining how the habsburgs looked

    • @ryuno2097
      @ryuno2097 2 года назад +13

      he create it himself with photoshop and other softwares.

  • @Volvith
    @Volvith Год назад +2

    As a Crusader Kings player, i am impressed.
    Rarely do i see circles as beautiful as this.
    The genes flowed pure in this one. :D

  • @ghostyybean9728
    @ghostyybean9728 2 года назад +15

    When you got to Charles parents, I can tell you were getting annoyed at how exactly they're related (how many more cousins can be removed? Lau)

  • @Blorb-v3y
    @Blorb-v3y 2 года назад +1

    I love your channel! Especially the POC videos!

  • @lilylou4693
    @lilylou4693 2 года назад +9

    This video is fabulous and very well made. The research must have been exhausting and thank you for explaining every bond between every relationship. Amazing job. Well done

  • @carlosperez9560
    @carlosperez9560 2 года назад +9

    Woow, my mind just exploted when you talked about the grade's cousins, by the way, what an amazing video about the Habsburg, greetings from Mexico 🙋🏻‍♂️

  • @g3tsiak547
    @g3tsiak547 2 года назад +26

    What does "once removed" or "twice removed" mean?

    • @elise85391
      @elise85391 2 года назад +15

      So, to my understanding it works like this: you have your first cousins right? And then your cousin has a son, so your cousins son is your first cousin once removed. And then if your first cousin once removed had a child, that child is your first cousin twice removed. Because your taking your relationship with your cousin and adding steps/generations to it

    • @heathergarnham9555
      @heathergarnham9555 2 года назад +2

      Your parent’s first, second, and third cousins are also your first, second, and third cousins-but once removed. This is because your parents and their generation are 1 above yours. Likewise, your grandparents’ first, second, and third cousins are also your first, second, and third cousins, this time twice removed. This pattern continues throughout each generation. So, for example, a first cousin once removed is either the child of your first cousin or the parent of your second cousin

    • @heathergarnham9555
      @heathergarnham9555 2 года назад +5

      First cousins share a grandparent (2generations)
      Second cousins share a great-grandparent (3 generations)
      Third cousins share a great-great-grandparent(4 generations)
      Fourth cousins share a 3rd-great grandparent (5 generations)

    • @Lonelystar_xoxo
      @Lonelystar_xoxo 2 года назад +3

      I’m still confused af this video fried my brain as did this comment thread ☹️😂

    • @mabt4223
      @mabt4223 2 года назад

      @@heathergarnham9555 so if one marries along these lines, it isn't incestuous.

  • @atx-insider9055
    @atx-insider9055 2 года назад +86

    I never knew someone could be cousins so many times🤣🤣🤣 Powerful ppl are sick 🤢

    • @bevnedd8746
      @bevnedd8746 2 года назад +9

      that's why they look so peculiar

    • @mariagabbott
      @mariagabbott 2 года назад +4

      Hahahahahaha I came across this as he was going through all the times they were cousins 🤯🤯🤯

    • @marfa1861
      @marfa1861 2 года назад +2

      I think hey were trying to keep the "Blue Bloods" a clean line....waaay back then! look at what it got them!!! :]

    • @johnvinals7423
      @johnvinals7423 2 года назад +2

      @@marfa1861 The reason why they did that, by the way, is to ensure that land and titles would stay in the family.

    • @marfa1861
      @marfa1861 2 года назад

      @@johnvinals7423 oh yes...i know...sort of like .."All in the Family"..!! lol

  • @niqaliaevans5004
    @niqaliaevans5004 2 года назад +9

    I love to say it's more like a family bush than a tree, which is so disturbing that it has no branches as you said. Tumble weed is maybe more appropriate considering the degradation of the DNA 😐

  • @victoriablackwell1339
    @victoriablackwell1339 2 года назад +12

    That's just sad. I can't imagine being told I would have to marry someone that was so related. I would feel safe saying they must have had to run vomit several times on their wedding night. I can't believe how disgusting things were back then.

    • @JonathanGhost42
      @JonathanGhost42 2 года назад +8

      Even back then this extreme amount of inbreeding was abnormal.

    • @animeXcaso
      @animeXcaso Год назад

      Cousin marriages were not THAT strange in the past

  • @johndoeble
    @johndoeble 2 года назад +6

    Imagine giving birth to a boy who turns out to be his uncle and mother at the same time

  • @wwaitkus
    @wwaitkus 2 года назад +3

    This channel is a very relaxing and fascinating wormhole, and someday I will see the end of a video.
    CAUTION: Unintentional ASMR dead ahead!

  • @mauge09
    @mauge09 2 года назад +5

    I died when he started with the uncle/Brother/cousin/cousin first removed/etc 😂😂 My brain went 🤪🤪

  • @lucialu13
    @lucialu13 2 года назад +1

    Just went to El Prado Museum a week ago and saw a bunch of these portraits. I kept innocently saying "God, why do they all look the same. I swear they all have the same face." Now wonder why... 😂. Mind you, I have studied all this because I'm spanish but I completely eraised it from my mind and I never really understood History in the first place. Really wish we had something like this channel back in school days.

  • @eukarya_
    @eukarya_ 2 года назад +6

    My great grandparents were first cousins as they came from a village where around half the population shares the same surname and needed a papal permit to marry...

  • @rockhaze
    @rockhaze 2 месяца назад +1

    Blows my mind what people are willing to do to hold onto power and material possessions.

  • @PitsTasteGood
    @PitsTasteGood 2 года назад +7

    This same type of family tree existed in El salvador. There's a reason why a lot of citizens look very similar to each other.

    • @melakamelaka332
      @melakamelaka332 2 года назад

      BRUH Even in One of Their Colony

    • @chilenapromedioRU
      @chilenapromedioRU Год назад

      Really? Why?!
      Por qué el aborto es ilegal entonces? Es ilegal incluso por violación e incesto!

  • @PepperoniMilkshake
    @PepperoniMilkshake 2 года назад +4

    8:20 And the end of The Spanish Habsburgs... Wow, I truly lost count of the inbreeding

  • @mailleweaver
    @mailleweaver 2 года назад +5

    Imagine Ferdinand III marrying someone who had his mother's name and must have also looked like his mother. Then gave his daughter basically the same name.

    • @christopherthompson5400
      @christopherthompson5400 2 года назад

      the things people would do for plumbing and political power is astounding.

    • @ravenzyblack
      @ravenzyblack 8 месяцев назад

      @@christopherthompson5400- It was also about land and treaties.

  • @forsagebone
    @forsagebone 2 года назад +5

    If you did this in the Sims 4 and you opened up the family tree the game would probably crash

  • @stevenguevara2184
    @stevenguevara2184 2 года назад +9

    Even Neanderthals new you could not breed with your immediate family. They figured it out a long time ago. For good reason.

    • @michaels4255
      @michaels4255 2 года назад

      There was most likely a lot of inbreeding among Neanderthals according to paleoanthropologists. It may have contributed to their extinction.

  • @Mike-yz4ek
    @Mike-yz4ek 2 года назад +2

    Just stumbled on your channel...WOW! Really cool stuff! Never thought I'd get interested in this kinda thing. But you got a subscriber out of me!