@@genxmum5569 This, and they oversaturate RUclips to the point that it's turned me off. No slam to creators that are promoting them, I do get it. But they're just in the faaaaace everywhere.
@@genxmum5569 can you read ms. It says trial as in limited/trial period, where did the comment say free membership? You’re free to cancel if your not interested in becoming a “member”. Bottom Line thank you guys at Forgotten Lives for always having interesting and factual content that anyone can see takes a lot of effort and dedication to produce videos at the rate and length that they always do. So once again thank you for providing access to education/knowledge that is found on skill share, it’s a good deal.
Poor Eugenia. You, on the other hand, look gorgeous, your eyes and lips are so perfect. Moreover your pronunciation of English and Spanish are excellent. You're quite a catch, you handsome devil.
My son had Prader-Willi Syndrome. He lived until 34 and the syndrome took him. Even at the time he was born he was stared at and made fun of. I loved him and was so proud of him. I learned a lot through his eyes. I miss him every day.
Her eyes look teary in the undressed picture. I imagine how scared and vulnerable a child felt in midst of unkind strangers. Poor girl. My heart breaks for her.
I cannot get her teary eyes....the more i think about it, seems the nude painting was perhaps the cruelist bad treatment cuz it probably was ridiculed even after she died! Dispicable to treat a person to a guilded cage of hellish disrespect. My heart breaks for her , too. Those teary eyes have kept me awake some nights then I have to pray the Rosary for those kids today suffering unkind treatment still in this day.
Charles actually couldn’t close his mouth because of his jaw but painters were not allowed to paint his mouth open so they closed it to try to make it look more normal
The painters really saw her. What they had to do was wretched, but they didn't disguise the pain on her face. I believe they told the truth with their brushes. And at the same time they showed the natural beauty Eugenia was, with her glowing skin, bright eyes, rose blossom mouth, and a lot of shining black hair.
Not really a natural beauty, every painting is depicted with the colorings you mentioned. They captured a child, scared and upset. Not a natural beauty at all.
I can’t believe how rude and downright cruel some of these comments are. The OP is right. She is a lovely child and is clearly shown in the paintings that her features were ideal. She was surrounded by people who treated her like the nasty commenters, hence the ever present look of misery on her face and tears in her eyes. Shameful to treat a child that way, beautiful or not. It just so happens that she was a beauty with a terrible affliction. My heart hurts for humanity.
Me, too. I need to see that. Every pic out there, even if it showed how odd he looked, were still done in an elegant way with nice clothes, silky hair or wigs, smooth skin, etc.
I think he looks like the painting shows. Would be risky to beautify him and paint an unrealistic version of him - that might upset him and wonder if the painter thought he looks ugly since the painter didnt paint the real him
To be fair he was HEAVILY ridiculed by Spanish people. Poor Eugenia was the product of the royalty and rich people treating people as objects for their amusement but he’s the one who got the short end of the stick. He became infamous in the whole Europe cause Spanish people were mocking and making up rumors ab their own king 😭 he was nicknamed ‘El Hechizado’ or ‘The Wicked’ cause it was believed his parents made a deal with the devil so they were punished with the most ugly child. He was also laughed at cause he apparently had no libido bc of his health. He was also subjected to all kinds of tortures by doctors who used him as a research experiment cause he was so odd.
Well the reason he looked like this is due to being a royal. He looked like this because he was very inbred the reason being the royals tried to keep their blood "pure".
@@rubyjane9119 yeah his autopsy reported that he had a single tiny testicle that was completely black. Having no balls was the least of his worries though
As horrific as her situation was, the fact is that at that time her life was probably extended by living in relative physical comfort at the palace instead of at home with parents struggling to feed her and other siblings, people didn't have cupboards full of food back then. I only hope that her parents were able to contact her somehow down through the years.
Charles was literally described as “always on the verge of death but repeatedly baffling Christendom by continuing to live” and died miserably and gets roasted to hell and back postpartum so who really won here
well he was a king and as you say, defied the odds and lived longer than anyone expected to despite being saddled with egregious health conditions from birth and there's statues n shit of the dude - so I'd say Charles 'won', if you want to frame it like that. His death caused a motherfucking war, her death caused..nothing, probably. And idk why you'd think someone who..was also living on the verge of death and also 'died miserably' and was 'roasted' while she was alive 'won' b/c...people feel sorry for her in the comments section of a youtube video a few centuries later?
@@helvete_ingres4717 worship of the broken. It’s pathetic really. I mean, don’t get me wrong it’s bad what happened to her I guess but life is pretty bad for most people throughout history and still to this day
It is a genetic thing. I went to school with a girl who was bigger than our teacher in 2nd grade. It took us till highschool to catch up with her size. She was not fat, just big as hell at an early age. She turned into a fabulously beautiful woman. Like this one, she was tormented throughout her childhood. No one actually dared to confront her to face. She could screw your head into the ground like a twig. It was nice that she had a good nature. Interesting humans.
While during my high school years, we had a schoolmate who’s actually a boy but he physically looks like a girl with short hair, see there are female body types with flatter breast area, he was mistaken for that, her facial feature were really feminine, he’s 5’4ft, his skin looks feminine too, even his tone of voice, but he’s straight. However the reason why we don’t feel sorry for him on being made fun of his physical appearance, is for the reason he uses that for women to take pity on him and uses his charms constantly to get women’s heart, and decided to become a heart breaker, even if there was this girl rumors said went to a different school he dated, almost committed suicide after he replaced her, and when I overheard them talking about that ex of his during lunch time, he made fun of that ex of hers and laughed as if it’s all a comedy. That’s why he hates our guts for rejecting him, saying no to him, because he can’t play us like his other victims, something about his ego seemed crushed whenever he’s around us he never got to played with. As we become alumni of our school, we become part of one alumni group on Facebook, as years part by during my college years, he’s later became part of that group where we see his and everyone else’s social medias.A rains of years later, I became curious about how everyone else turned out since I haven’t opened my account for quite a long time, that’s why I left all my email and password in my wallet, as I opened my account from my mobile, and saw him and everyone else’s either from friends in the group or people you may know from the group, I saw his non-stop post about himself complaining that women are too shallow these days, repeatedly saying he couldn’t get a date since Facebook, Instagram and other social medias grew a larger amount of popularity. I said to my self “Well maybe because not only women, but people in general became smarter about reading other’s intentions of them”
I reached adult height at age 11. It was a lot more problematic for my brothers to cope with being tall with a Germanic appearance during the cold war which went on for a long time after the second world war. My poor brother Ron at only age 8 ended up being interrogated for hours once and his name was not cleared for being responsible for how an already disabled girl had been beat up in a playground nearby the public schoolyard -- Until the poor disabled girl when seeing him in person told everybody that he was not the one who beat her up. He felt crushed. Had it not been for how my mother stuck up for him when marching him down to that public school office where justice was being served well in contrast to how the nun principle of his school had treated him who knows what might have happened to him next. He felt so misunderstood soon after he fell very ill and has not been the same since.
He was so strange looking because he was the end result of one of the most intensely inbred royal families of all time! 16 generations of every kind of intermarriage between close relatives.After his death and at his royal autopsy,when his doctors opened him up they couldn't believe that poor blighted internal mess had managed to live for so long.
Poor thing. I actually think she was quite beautiful. The picture of her undressed is so heartbreaking. You can see how teary her eyes are and it is just so sad to imagine such a young girl being treated that way. Poor darling.
How wild is it that back in the day you heard a rumor that someone was “misshapen” and people were like “nah no way lemme pull up n see that shit for myself”
Being forced to stand naked and exposed for hours for her portrait's only purpose to ridicule her. How abhorrent, and heartbreaking. The lain in her eyes was evident.
man those court portraits of Charles were supposed to be the most flattering, if that's the best the artists can come up with just think how grotesque he looks in real life.
I like how even though all of those people were originally mocking her she apparently was such a nice person that they ended up liking her to the extent even her personality was remembered as pleasant and friendly
Then again she was a commoner living with the nobolity as some sort of pet and given her condition (Probably a hormonal disorder) she had very few options. She was most likely humoring them so she wouldn't be kicked out of the palace.
@@user-unos111 While true, at the same time, they would've taken pleasure out of humbling someone like this who had a bad attitude. What would she do to them if they decided to torment the attitude out of her? Nothing.
You have such a sensitive way of describing her, which is lovely. The ignorance of the time must have been heartbreaking but they would not have known better. She is very fortunate that the King and court brought her in to the Royal household (if only for mockery, initially), because she did appear to receive better quality of life. Thank you for sharing.
and this being done by adults. kids and teens lack judgement so although its shitty, it makes some sense. I was a shitty 14yo. Now as im older, i cant imagine doing something like this. Adults have the maturity to know that you dont do that...so what the hell.
@@mhm77887 It looks like he may have had hydrocephalus. Combined with his circumstances (royal culture being totally wack), his own disability may have contributed to his lack of empathy, compassion, and kindness. (I'm just speculating as a layperson that he may have had many reasons he never really "grew up.") Doesn't make it ANY less tragic what happened at his court though. That poor girl :(
It must not have been enough for her to diet. I mean, it's physically impossible to gain weight if you consume less Calories than your metabolic rate burns. No doubt her metabolism was slow or, most likely, she had a thyroid issue but that never means you can't lose weight just by not eating more than you need. She probably had to stay fat or get kicked out of the palace.
@@dickJohnsonpeter Well, people with Prader-Willi Syndrome are constantly hungry and will eat all the time. The only way to prevent them from becoming dangerously obese early in life is to lock all the food in their house up and leave them feeling hungry a lot of the time. If she had PWS unless the palace people were controlling her diet, she would probably have just continued eating.
@@dickJohnsonpeter If you want to see a modern version of Eugenia here you go: www.news.com.au/lifestyle/parenting/kids/new-hope-for-obese-18monthold-who-cant-stop-eating/news-story/bb52e663040db161bbe26db7c09b1afd
i love how empathetic your description of all the incidents are, without making it sensational or clickbait-y. binging all of your videos, subscribing!
In those days, it might have been viewed as the best possible future for her. Where would she work? Who would marry her? At least in the palace she would be fed, housed, protected, and have a life of relative luxury. She would be made fun of at home or made fun of at the palace. So may as well go to the palace.
In a way i hope having other people of pleasure around made her feel the warmth of a community in a way that staying in her village surrounded by ableist assholes (while also starving) couldn't. It reminds me of how when circus "freak" shows got banned, the performers themselves were opposed to it because they'd lose their communities of similar people and livelihood. They'd just be forced back into a cruel society with next to no job prospects.
She was unlikely to ever become married, doubly so as they came to realize she was probably infertile. This was likely the best fate she could have expected to have. She had a roof over her head, food on her plate, and a job to do, however sucky it was.
I actually almost cried listening, mostly because she has a very similar appearance to myself. Just looking at her and listening to her story made me want to cry because I understand her. I want to give her a hug and tell her it’s okay even though she’s been dead for centuries. I know her pain of feeling worthless for your weight, and through it all you smile. I want to go to her statue not for the painter but for the girl it was for and lay flowers. She didn’t deserve it, she wasn’t happy and I wish I was there to tell her she wasn’t defined by her appearance just because people said she was. May she Rest In Peace free from all the pain, not brought by her illness but by those her treated her like she wasn’t worth anything.
I’m gonna be honest, the portrait of her I find quite beautiful. The second one, where you can see she’s undressed though I don’t love, she looks like she’s in so much pain and embarrassment. She deserved so much better I’m sure she was so kind. Edit: I JUST SAW ALL THE LIKES SPECIAL GOODNIGHT TO YALL❤️❤️
If you look closely at her eyes in that painting. You can see she's crying. There's tears coming out of her eyes. I wonder if she was even chaperoned by another woman while this was going on. No telling what kind of torture these people went through to entertain the so-called royalty. And they weren't paid? They were nothing but slaves!
She looks a lot like youtuber Amberlynn Reid, who I've long suspected has Prader-Willi syndrome. She purportedly weighed 300 lbs at age 11, and currently weighs nearly 600 lbs at age 30.
Dont forget people at the time used to exagerate the portraits. Like making a certain lady more prettier than she already is or a certain lad less fat or not bald xD and that was acceptable lol. Esp in long distance courting
@@itaflores1325 yeah you see faded parts on statues all the time for luck or for fun. Dog statues will have worn out heads from petting and human statues often have worn out lips and crotches haha
That’s so sweet and nice, but my germaphobe self is disgusted (just bc it probably doesn’t get washed often and many people just kiss each other in a second hand way)
This reminds me going to a fair when I was a lot younger than I am today. My friends payed to get into a house of horrors. The horrors turned out to be rats and lizards snakes and what was called 'the fat lady'. She sit at the end of the trailer behind a glass window wearing a bikini and people just stared at her. It was so hot in there and she looked as miserable as I imagine a woman can look. We got out of there as quickly as we could. Forty-five years later I still think of her and hope that some way she got out of that employment. They say confession is good for the soul so that's why I'm telling you. I am so sorry for what I did to this woman.
bro idk why people were bullying her! she's literally so fkin adorable! her round face and chubby cheeks are so cute! people are so mean for no reason.
Charles II of Spain’s autopsy: “The autopsy records his body "did not contain a single drop of blood; his heart was the size of a peppercorn; his lungs corroded; his intestines rotten and gangrenous; he had a single testicle, black as coal, and his head was full of water." *[oh, the irony...]*
I thought you made that up, and I was going to compliment you on your writing skills. But I ran a quick search, and sure enough, that's what the autopsy reads!
To everyone portraying Charles II as the villain in the comments: He probably made few of these decisions himself, and even less so out of some sadist instinct to mock her. The man was as much a victim of his era as she was, with severe mental disabilities that rendered him essentially child-like into adulthood. He was constantly in pain, had outlandish expectations of ruling a country and continuing a dynasty placed upon him despite being infertile, his cranium wasn’t even closed. He was just conscious enough to know that there was something wrong with him. Existence is misery. Cut the man some slack.
people are quick to hate, especially for "noble" reasons so that they can get off on feeling superior while at the same time behaving no different. I feel sorry for the guy tbh, he was admittedly ekhm... a lot worse looking than the girl and was probably in a lot of mind-numbing pain by the sound of it
It is shocking that she was at court for entertainment. This coming from Charles 2nd, who himself was so inbred that he couldn’t close his mouth and had many ailments. It’s just sad...
I'm glad you noted Prader-Willi syndrome which is the first thought that ran through my head as an physician intern. I grew up skinny but after medical school, I gained a few pounds from the stress of motherhood plus medical school. I feel for this girl because no one likes a fat girl. She deserves all the respect that anyone can give her.
projecting his insecurities, trying to find people who also have flaws so he could "look better" compared to them.... the girl actually has a very pretty face so jokes on him, her weight doesn't make her look worse than his crooked face
@@brigidtheirish I didn't say anything about finding obesity cute, or finding her weight alone cute. and if you're saying being overweight/fat in itself is unhealthy, don't speak about things your uneducated on cus there's a difference between being fat and being obese but other than that I apologize for how long this comment is lmao
The paintings of Eugenia are so haunting... she looks so sad and dejected. It's very hard to decide whether Eugenia was better off at court than she would have been at home. Perhaps she would have had the love of her parents but she might have been consigned to life in her room and would have had a much worse diet, but the psychological damage inflicted on her at court would have been terrible. It's a pity that the hypocritical Charles didn't look in the mirror more often and confront his own deformities due to the inbreeding of the Bourbons. He was the real Monster of the palace for exploiting the misfortunes of others for entertainment. BTW, hats off for your excellent Spanish pronunciation. So many people don't make an effort to get it right.
She looked so very unhappy in those portraits. The fact that they took her away from her family at such a tender age and then mocked and insulted her, must have all been too much for her to bear. I see a well of deep sadness in the eyes of that poor young woman. God rest her in eternal peace. To be remembered so well by the people of her home country and have had a statue created in her honour is very special. Its lovely to think that people still remember her even though there are only two paintings of her bless her heart.
It was the town her family lived in that mocked and insulted her to the point she became a prisoner of the family home. Being kept at the court would have been a vast improvement where it was reported that she was well liked. Objectified always, she likely felt isolated. Her weight issues caused her pain which may be reflected or enhanced for the portrait's painting to evoke more feeling. Paintings played a bigger role in that day. We forget how important when living in this social media age of selfies. The people that consider her due to the painting were those at court.
If you look at those old paintings, very few people were smiling. Probably for the same reason early photography had no smiles. You would have to smile the entire time, which is very uncomfortable to do. She probably had the best life. She could have during that era. She obviously had a medical condition, which was beyond the era’s technology. IMO her family would not be able to give her the care she needed. She unfortunately would’ve been mocked wherever she lived. It’s a sad tale but in the same vein of childhood morality rates stated at the beginning of the video.
I’ve always felt overwhelming compassion and defensive about anyone who people shunned, ridiculed or made fun of. I honestly don’t know where it came from or why, but I remember at a very young age (elementary school) befriending and standing up for those who were picked on. My husband, has said many times that he’s never known anyone who did that. He owned a restaurant/bar with a live music venue and I was always bringing people, who I felt were lonely, or if I heard someone make a rude comment about a person, I was sure to bring them to our table. I find it unacceptable to be cruel or condescending to someone over their looks, or whatever doesn’t suit your fancy.
Nothing much as changed. Society still spends its time mocking and bullying people who are different. It is sad that her parents, who obviously loved her, had no say in the matter when the palace called for her. Nice presentation of this girl's story. Thank you.
So true. In some parts of the world more so during some times in history that includes people who are fulfilling non-traditional gender roles at work too.
If the painter had compassion for her, I would think that he wouldn't have painted her undressed so that her humiliation was complete. But people had different sensibilities then.
@@janegreene2838 and when the King requests....this is a country that had seen the Spanish Inquisition. They KNEW what was possible from royalty. When the king says paint this child...you paint the child.
I can't imagine the abuse and humiliation this poor, pretty little baby went through just because she was big, which was way more than likely due an underlying health condition.
Kings and queens of that time period had ABSOLUTE power over all of their subjects. No one was spared humiliation, not even the people considered to be the ideal of beauty of the era. Charles himself was perfectly aware of all of his own afflictions. He surrounded himself with “strange” looking people so he wouldn’t be the only odd duck in the room. Life can be cruel, even to kings.
I hope she found enjoyment living in the palace. That she saw some sort of positive in all of it, that despite her situation and the way some people mistreated her, that there were those that truly enjoyed her company for who she was rather then what she looked like.
He probably surrounded himself with what he considered “freaks” to make him feel better about himself and his own homely appearance. It’s always tragic to be taken from one’s family.
That's what I was thinking too, maybe he hoped people would be too busy mocking her to mock him (considering his nickname was "The Bewitched," he failed if that was indeed his goal...)
He has what is known as "The Hapsburg jaw" , where the bottom teeth protrude further out than the top teeth. Behind his back he was as much a "curiosity" as the "freaks" he tormented. He was born out of a long line of inbred royalty a line which the House Of Windsor has a connection to , probably why the current English royal family has encouraged William and Harry to marry women from outside the English aristocracy..........😂😂💯%❤️
@@christopherleonard247 There was incest in his family for hundreds of years in a row. The Hapsburgs are the most famous examples of royal incest in European history.
The incestuous royal family has no room to talk with their own well seen deformities that were brought on by their own greed. My heart breaks for this young girl.
it’s truly heartbreaking that she was used to uplift the skinny women back then but it’s not surprising. it’s still happening today. i knew some skinny girls who had plus sizes friends in high school and i’d always see them posting with each other on social media but the second high school was over the skinny girls had unfollowed them. now i guess i can’t say for certain that that was the reason but i’m assuming it is because they wanted to feel better about themselves and their body bc god forbid they would actually have to learn to love themselves w/out doing so.
I always have felt embarrased about how muscled my calves are and my upper arms too whenever I have to work hard doing physical labor. When at normal weiight for my height and during the winter months too more often so when my hair is short too then people assume that I am a man. My mom went through the same only worse because she is 4 inches taller than me. Sometimes men would ask her for a dance and then when she stood up they would run away.
I saw the statue in Avilés in 2013 and have a picture somewhere. Now I know her story. While watching, it was one of those moments where you realize you have actually seen what is being shown and have no expectation of the memory about to surface.
That poor baby. No one asks to be born , and yet this poor girl couldn’t even feel comfortable around the people who should love her the most. Heartbreaking
Her parents did love her, however, and did all they could for her. If you had nothing, could barely afford a doctor, and someone rich came by and said, "I will give your desperately ill child everything she needs, and she'll live with me for my amusement," you'd be tempted because the tradeoff would be worth it.
I was a bit miffed by the wording as well. She was mocked and belittled in life, treated like an object of scorn and ridicule, and then the statue was NOT for her, but for the man who named her a monster and had her stand in pain to capture her likeness, both clothed AND NUDE. As a child. For his own fame and fortune. All the comments here mock Charles II and talk about how horrible it was to treat a child like that... but people IN OUR CURRENT TIME IN SOCIETY thought it'd be cool to honor the PAINTER, and still treated the girl like an object to further HIS fame. I dunno, just made me salty. Sorry for the rant. You just provided an easy outlet to vent that feeling I got when the narrator said those words. xD
@@lux3226 I felt the same way. I was immediately sickened. But, then I realized when most people look at the statue, they don't think about the painter, they think about Eugenia. ;)
Thank you for sharing this child's story with respect, empathy, and context about social norms in those days. I hadn't heard of her before, but now I can't forget her. She looks so sad and hurt in both paintings (I looked them up after watching this video). I've seen plenty of MODERN children her size, caused by diseases or unhealthy diets (or both). I can't imagine inflicting such emotional abuse on them, and it breaks my heart that Eugenia and her fellow "entertainers" had to suffer like that. I hope that she made good friends with the other people in her position at court, so that all of them could support one another and feel loved by someone.
I’m confused why she was called a freak, she’s big but she wasn’t bad looking, her portrait looks sad but she’s not at all ugly, she’s fairly adorable IMO. She was probably very beautiful as an adult
@@hunterjardine7148 it's because she was so extremely big at a young age. In my country it's rare to see an really obese adult and it's hard not to stare because you only hear about people like that living in America. Now imagine seeing an extremely obese child if you never saw one before. I would be shocked af. I wouldn't treat them like a freak but the medieval times weren't that nice and a lot of things they did back then were fucked up. I'm really sad for this girl.
@@hunterjardine7148 Only in North America sickly obesity is "normal". You barely meet 300kg people everywhere else even today. Since we are talking about the 17th century only the very wealthy people might had been overweight. Like under 1 % of the population. Obesity is not healthy nor was ever common. A wet dream in times of starvation though.
I had a similar chronic illness that started when I was 14. It's caused Cushing's disease/syndrome, and has many of the same symptoms, being caused in my case due to a hormone producing tumor in my head. Despite being a pretty athletic kid previously I ended up putting on weight suddenly and uncontrollably, and despite trying to make healthy changes it didn't stop. Eventually I starved myself for two weeks, passed out at the mall, and finally got help. Took three surgeries to solve the problem and to this day I'm without both my adrenal glands.
as a disabled person, it never fails to sadden and enrage me when I see how disabled people have always been mocked and treated callously. the king himself was obviously inbred, and although he can’t help that and I don’t think targeting what people can’t help is a good insult, it is ironic he would put other people in that position.
but it's not ironic at all. The dwarf character in game of thrones says he loved to make fun of his (mentally) disabled cousin b/c it was the only thing that made him feel like everyone else. This is a very human thing. Also he's not acting any different from other monarchs of the time, these menageries of unusual people at court were common.
@@dottyContrarian well, isn't it? I don't see dogs or birds or other species doing it. And it wasn't really my point - it's human to want to fit in, and that's sometimes why people mock or bully others. You will never understand human beings if you don't acknowledge these things b/c they're not 'nice' or w/e
We're all making fun of the King for his hypocrisy, but I can't help but ask: Was it even his choice? Did he even have the mental capacity to make choices?
Charles was inbred at its worst and barely could even walk due to his own disabilities so I can definitely believe this. He was ridiculed too so I can only imagine he would project it onto anyone he could find
Don't you think perhaps the person narrating this portrayed things worse than they were and that she was actually happy as he said at the end? I mean, what do kings do, but try to make sure everyone is eating properly and stuff? If he took in people who couldn't work otherwise, it was a Godsend for them. I don't believe they were constantly ridiculed. I think this is a false narrative.
@@brennanarmacost1762 there's literally a portrait that he made her pose nude for that she's crying. Kings have never been the kind leaders that fairytales portray, they often were self serving and only took any care of people because if they didn't they wouldn't have tax money, or would be killed
I feel so bad for her, she seemed like a sweet kid just trying to live. Plus being Spanish myself, Charles had an under bite that could crack a walnut so it's odd he called her a monster.
I can’t help but think those small highlights in the corners of her eyes in her nude portrait are from tears. Having a girl strip naked for a portrait is horrific.
all these comments about Charles are extremely ableist. As soon as a disabled person does something you don't like (such as *checks notes* - gives a sick/disabled child a better life than she'd have had literally anywhere else with access to the best medicine of the time), the mask really comes off. And you're all mocking him for not matching conventional beauty standards b/c of genetics outside his control b/c..he was mean or something to someone who did not match conventional beauty standards (presumably) b/c of genetics outside her control. And you all act like you'd have acted do much better, you've just been socialised with different values. I mean of all the actions of monarchs throughout history (including wars that killed millions and genocide) I don't think 'laughing at a fat girl' ranks very highly. Also he looks majestic and kingly in that painting wearing his armor and long flowing locks.
It's funny people are making fun of his appearance while at the same time hating him for making fun of Eugenia's appearance. Doing the same thing makes you not much better than the person who did it in the first place, making you appear superficial.
Her portraits are displayed in the Prado Museum in Madrid. I visited recently, and oh my god, the sadness in the paitings is so much more apparent when you see them up-close in real life
My son was just shy of 9 pounds at birth. Growing up, he was always taller and bigger than other kids his age. He was also diagnosed with Aspberger’s. He is now nearly 22, 6’ 5” and holds three college degrees. I call him, my gentle giant.
@@NigelUltra LMAO did you just hit me with the most dramatic response ever? If that's not what you meant you could have just said "I didn't mean that in my comment" (which btw my "if" left room for) but instead you just straight up call me evil for a fairly mild interaction? How else is "Oh yes. Very pretty... Dude she looks like a female Hagrid" supposed to be taken?
@@caitlinb35 If my comment is the most dramatic response ever, yours just beat it, LMAO. Again you interpreted my comment in the most negative way possible. Also, me calling her a female child hagrid or whatever in no way gives the idea that I mean all fat people are ugly. I haven't even ever thought of that up until now thanks to you lol. That's why I called you an evil thinker. You thought of that. I did not.
I absolutely love your channel. Your videos really introduce me to fascinating human beings I'd never known existed. You're such an amazing storyteller. Thank you 😊
My family is from Avilés and I wanted to say that the bronce statue showed at the end actually looks quite beautiful in person, doesnt look right on photos. Really enjoyed the video, thank you!
That's what I thought as well. While I do understand it plainly sucks to have a deformity and be ridiculed. It still doesn't make it right for him to project it on other people to make himself feel better.
Just to defend Charles II, he did not only have physical disabilities, he also had mental disabilities, so it's kind of understandable for childish behaviour to show up. They also regarded him as a really kind person, so they probably got along pretty well after some time had passed.
The king was a monster. Objectifying a child. I'm glad we can now look back and see it in the correct light. Disdain on the "king", and glad that the artist showed how sad she was.
Me, reading the comments: "oh wow everyone's ragging on this king. I'm sure he can't look that weird. It's probably because he exploited a child and everyone is commenting about how ugly he was on the insi-" *portrait comes up* Oh ok so yea he actually really looked like the love child of the guy from the goonies and pumpkinhead
Even if the Spanish king wasn’t physically “ugly”, only those with an ugly heart make fun of others’ physiques & disabilities. You don’t have to be physically ugly to be called, “ugly”. If you’re an arrogant jerk who treats others horribly, you’re ugly. Also, I haven’t stumble across ANY King from the past who I’d considered to be decent or fairly good-looking (they were all physically unattractive, tbh), but in Charles’ case, he was the most unsightly of them all, as well as, ugly on the inside.
A very respectful and human look at a child deprived of respect for her humanity. Unrelated note, that orange fabric in her dress is some of the most beautiful cloth I've ever seen. I hope she got to feel beautiful sometimes.
My husband’s niece has been exactly like this girl. When she was born, she was only 7 lbs and 18 inches long but by the time she was 2 years old, she was so heavy that we couldn’t pick her up. It didn’t help that her mother never cooked meals and fed her nothing but processed foods loaded with calories, sugars, fats and preservatives. She would eat 4 or 5 hot dogs at a time, large amounts of chips and they’d give her all the Mt Dew & chocolate milk that she wanted. They bought her share size M&M’s everyday. Starting when she was 2, they’d get her a Happy Meal from McD’s bc she’d get Chicken Nuggets small fry small coke, bag of apples plus they’d order her another large fry, I’m dead serious. As she got older she’d eat more at a time. When she started Kindergarten, she was 3 to 4 times bigger than the other kids her age. She weighed 75 lbs at 5. None of this is her fault and all of the adults in her life won’t stop giving her the junk food and are going to cause her to die from cardiac arrest at a young age.
I had a a nephew with Prader-Willi who also died young. I knew from the fist second it had to be Eugenia's syndrome, my nephew was just the same. These are the kindest, gentlest souls you will ever find, trapped in a body which constantly screams for food since they don't have the ability to feel full. So very sad.
It must be torture to live with Prader-Willi. I’m sorry for your family’s loss but hopefully he’s released from his pain. Especially sad for Eugenia because disabilities were treated harshly throughout history. Hopefully they’ll come up with a cure or better treatment options in the future.
I was thinking prader-Willi from the beginning as well. They still don't have treatments for this constant hunger they feel. I wonder if traditional weight loss surgery could help them to feel less hungry because it makes the stomach very small.
I wonder if this is what Venus Angelic struggles with. She’s slim, but she says she never feels full and has struggled desperately to keep her weight down. She even went to South Korea for illegal weight loss surgery and nearly died out of desperation to stay slim.
It’s so strange to me that Charles II would have human “curiosities” at his court when he was the biggest curiosity of them all! So inbred he could barely walk or chew his food! What a sad and interesting story! Excellent video!!
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition... Seriously, this was at the height of the Inquisition when all sorts of unspeakable, sadistic acts were perpetrated by the church and the crown.
Because everyone would be kissing his arse, he was the king. But I don’t think Charles’ fascination with odd people is out of place at the time, and I don’t think it came from malice, those people were there just to entertain but I don’t think they were mistreated, they were being paid for their services.
@@DeadKraken yeah I meant they were paid with room and board. I’m sure this girl would have been seen by physicians, but there was nothing they could have done to alleviate her pain.
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"The King Lives!" 😊 ~ You (host) do look very much like a young Elvis Presley.
Poor Eugenia. You, on the other hand, look gorgeous, your eyes and lips are so perfect. Moreover your pronunciation of English and Spanish are excellent. You're quite a catch, you handsome devil.
King: Make fun of 'ugly' people
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ikr his chin can kill someone with it
Ye he was very inbred.
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DYING hahahaha
My son had Prader-Willi Syndrome. He lived until 34 and the syndrome took him. Even at the time he was born he was stared at and made fun of. I loved him and was so proud of him. I learned a lot through his eyes. I miss him every day.
You are a wonderful mother... I’m so sorry for the hurt and loss. God be with you.
@@andreesandahl300 Thank you
I’m so sorry for your loss 🙏🏼
I bet he was the light of your life. I’m so sorry for your loss
I’m so sorry for your loss. Rest In Peace, I’m sure he’s with you still.
Her eyes look teary in the undressed picture. I imagine how scared and vulnerable a child felt in midst of unkind strangers. Poor girl. My heart breaks for her.
Poor angel😔
Yes, and to paint her undressed is atrocious
I cannot get her teary eyes....the more i think about it, seems the nude painting was perhaps the cruelist bad treatment cuz it probably was ridiculed even after she died! Dispicable to treat a person to a guilded cage of hellish disrespect.
My heart breaks for her , too. Those teary eyes have kept me awake some nights then I have to pray the Rosary for those kids today suffering unkind treatment still in this day.
For sure, it's awful..and how dare anyone allow this to occur to their own child, let alone participate in it. Poor little girl
Indeed, poor thing.
Charles actually couldn’t close his mouth because of his jaw but painters were not allowed to paint his mouth open so they closed it to try to make it look more normal
Omg is this true?
@@_politefrog_8892 most definitely. Most of the people in the paintings from the past actually looked way worse irl because of severe inbreeding
Even worse, the paintings were Made to make them look as flattering as possible. So, Charles probably looked hideous in real life.
Meatball sandwich like snapchat lol
i’ve also read that his tongue was so large that he couldn’t keep it in his open mouth and it just hung out all the timr
Spanish King: Mocks people with abnormalities
Also Spanish King: has a head that looks like a cartoon crescent moon.
Maybe he felt it lessened his own deformities.
Well usually the people who are the most insecure are the ones who take it out on others
Noooooooo lol
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He had a single testicle that was black as coal
King: mocks someone for being different
Also the king: 🌛
"mummy says it's a strong chin for a strong boy!"
-oversimplified
OMG I love that Oversimplified video! XD
@@XShadOBabeX same. Then again I am obsessed with any and all Tudor History.
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@@gothmomcosplays Same!😆
The painters really saw her. What they had to do was wretched, but they didn't disguise the pain on her face. I believe they told the truth with their brushes. And at the same time they showed the natural beauty Eugenia was, with her glowing skin, bright eyes, rose blossom mouth, and a lot of shining black hair.
Not really a natural beauty, every painting is depicted with the colorings you mentioned. They captured a child, scared and upset. Not a natural beauty at all.
“Rose blossom mouth?!” Bro, she was 6 years old in those paintings! Chill tf out! 🤮
@@Macachee I'm a writer, and not a bro. That's not a weird descriptor. You're the one making it weird.
I can’t believe how rude and downright cruel some of these comments are. The OP is right. She is a lovely child and is clearly shown in the paintings that her features were ideal. She was surrounded by people who treated her like the nasty commenters, hence the ever present look of misery on her face and tears in her eyes. Shameful to treat a child that way, beautiful or not. It just so happens that she was a beauty with a terrible affliction. My heart hurts for humanity.
@@Macachee this is a self report if I ever saw one. Why the fuck did your brain go there 👀
I want to see a realistic model of what Charles 2 would've actually looked out without the generosity of court artists.
Me, too. I need to see that. Every pic out there, even if it showed how odd he looked, were still done in an elegant way with nice clothes, silky hair or wigs, smooth skin, etc.
I think he looks like the painting shows.
Would be risky to beautify him and paint an unrealistic version of him - that might upset him and wonder if the painter thought he looks ugly since the painter didnt paint the real him
Two paintings “The monster clothed and the monster unclothed” 🥺 these people were monsters to do this to her and perverted too. They make me sick 🤢
Exactly. So pleased there IS intelligence out there and the ability to really 'see'.
Jesus, that thing could be sold as nightmare fuel. XD
She is in heaven and now a sylph. They are not
@@bobbiscub why the trolling?
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Who said I was trolling?
Ironically, if Charles II hadn't been born royal, *he* would have been in the same station as Eugenia due to his own deformities.
For sure.
To be fair he was HEAVILY ridiculed by Spanish people. Poor Eugenia was the product of the royalty and rich people treating people as objects for their amusement but he’s the one who got the short end of the stick. He became infamous in the whole Europe cause Spanish people were mocking and making up rumors ab their own king 😭 he was nicknamed ‘El Hechizado’ or ‘The Wicked’ cause it was believed his parents made a deal with the devil so they were punished with the most ugly child. He was also laughed at cause he apparently had no libido bc of his health. He was also subjected to all kinds of tortures by doctors who used him as a research experiment cause he was so odd.
only the royals would screw themselves, literally
Well the reason he looked like this is due to being a royal. He looked like this because he was very inbred the reason being the royals tried to keep their blood "pure".
@@rubyjane9119 yeah his autopsy reported that he had a single tiny testicle that was completely black. Having no balls was the least of his worries though
As horrific as her situation was, the fact is that at that time her life was probably extended by living in relative physical comfort at the palace instead of at home with parents struggling to feed her and other siblings, people didn't have cupboards full of food back then. I only hope that her parents were able to contact her somehow down through the years.
How sad she looked in the naked portrait, tears almost spilling out of her eyes. what monsters THEY were
it’s hella bold for the Spanish king to make fun of people’s appearance and deformities when his own parents had the same parents
lmaooo true
Definition of king: GETS to be hella bold. Still a jerk tho.
The visual embodiment of "throwing stones from glass houses"
His autopsy notes denote how fucked up he was as a physical person
That's what I was thinking. Peace
Charles was literally described as “always on the verge of death but repeatedly baffling Christendom by continuing to live” and died miserably and gets roasted to hell and back postpartum so who really won here
well he was a king and as you say, defied the odds and lived longer than anyone expected to despite being saddled with egregious health conditions from birth and there's statues n shit of the dude - so I'd say Charles 'won', if you want to frame it like that. His death caused a motherfucking war, her death caused..nothing, probably. And idk why you'd think someone who..was also living on the verge of death and also 'died miserably' and was 'roasted' while she was alive 'won' b/c...people feel sorry for her in the comments section of a youtube video a few centuries later?
I think you mean postmortem not postpartum, lol.
Postpartum
@@helvete_ingres4717 worship of the broken. It’s pathetic really. I mean, don’t get me wrong it’s bad what happened to her I guess but life is pretty bad for most people throughout history and still to this day
@@helvete_ingres4717 you must be fun at parties, when’s the last time your kids invited you over for Christmas?
Born in a church and they still called her ugly? Sis was nothing else but a blessing.
It is a genetic thing. I went to school with a girl who was bigger than our teacher in 2nd grade. It took us till highschool to catch up with her size. She was not fat, just big as hell at an early age.
She turned into a fabulously beautiful woman. Like this one, she was tormented throughout her childhood. No one actually dared to confront her to face. She could screw your head into the ground like a twig. It was nice that she had a good nature.
Interesting humans.
While during my high school years, we had a schoolmate who’s actually a boy but he physically looks like a girl with short hair, see there are female body types with flatter breast area, he was mistaken for that, her facial feature were really feminine, he’s 5’4ft, his skin looks feminine too, even his tone of voice, but he’s straight. However the reason why we don’t feel sorry for him on being made fun of his physical appearance, is for the reason he uses that for women to take pity on him and uses his charms constantly to get women’s heart, and decided to become a heart breaker, even if there was this girl rumors said went to a different school he dated, almost committed suicide after he replaced her, and when I overheard them talking about that ex of his during lunch time, he made fun of that ex of hers and laughed as if it’s all a comedy. That’s why he hates our guts for rejecting him, saying no to him, because he can’t play us like his other victims, something about his ego seemed crushed whenever he’s around us he never got to played with. As we become alumni of our school, we become part of one alumni group on Facebook, as years part by during my college years, he’s later became part of that group where we see his and everyone else’s social medias.A rains of years later, I became curious about how everyone else turned out since I haven’t opened my account for quite a long time, that’s why I left all my email and password in my wallet, as I opened my account from my mobile, and saw him and everyone else’s either from friends in the group or people you may know from the group, I saw his non-stop post about himself complaining that women are too shallow these days, repeatedly saying he couldn’t get a date since Facebook, Instagram and other social medias grew a larger amount of popularity. I said to my self “Well maybe because not only women, but people in general became smarter about reading other’s intentions of them”
I reached adult height at age 11. It was a lot more problematic for my brothers to cope with being tall with a Germanic appearance during the cold war which went on for a long time after the second world war. My poor brother Ron at only age 8 ended up being interrogated for hours once and his name was not cleared for being responsible for how an already disabled girl had been beat up in a playground nearby the public schoolyard -- Until the poor disabled girl when seeing him in person told everybody that he was not the one who beat her up. He felt crushed. Had it not been for how my mother stuck up for him when marching him down to that public school office where justice was being served well in contrast to how the nun principle of his school had treated him who knows what might have happened to him next. He felt so misunderstood soon after he fell very ill and has not been the same since.
King: makes fun of "ugly" people
also King: possibly one of the most visually hideous humans to ever exist
Exactly! If he wanted entertainment, he could’ve looked at himself in the mirror
He was so strange looking because he was the end result of one of the most intensely inbred royal families of all time! 16 generations of every kind of intermarriage between close relatives.After his death and at his royal autopsy,when his doctors opened him up they couldn't believe that poor blighted internal mess had managed to live for so long.
Yesss he’s said to be the most inbred and straight up “challenged” king in history, and he’s out there laughing lmaoo
Looks like the definition of incest
@@msxlxsv2472 lol!!
Well, the painter at least had the decency to capture her incredible sadness rather than showing her off to be happy
I just looked up both paintings and man is it sad to see a young girl painted nude because of her size.. that sucks..
Nowadays you'll see one exactly like her everyday in Wal-Mart
She was indeed fat you are right
Yes, you can really feel how profoundly sad she was from her whole face and demeanor, but especially from her eyes.
@@UncleSamSiam your boy looks nothing like you. Most people would look at you two and conclude you adopted him.
Poor thing. I actually think she was quite beautiful. The picture of her undressed is so heartbreaking. You can see how teary her eyes are and it is just so sad to imagine such a young girl being treated that way. Poor darling.
How wild is it that back in the day you heard a rumor that someone was “misshapen” and people were like “nah no way lemme pull up n see that shit for myself”
Being forced to stand naked and exposed for hours for her portrait's only purpose to ridicule her. How abhorrent, and heartbreaking. The lain in her eyes was evident.
she was just a little child too, poor girl I hope she has peace and happiness now.
You are so right. I thought I'm the only who saw this.
She looks like she is crying and now I'm crying.
You can see the poor babies tears :( my heart is broken
@@LegionariiSSturm what are you on about? what does that have to do with the comment?
They could've left.... but chose not to
man those court portraits of Charles were supposed to be the most flattering, if that's the best the artists can come up with just think how grotesque he looks in real life.
The Spanish royal family were quite inbred
That's what I was thinking! Yikes
I can see the beauty in him
Lol!!!
@@noneofyourbusiness302 Do you have a braille monitor?
I grew up chubby & dealt with some bullying in grade school so I’m basically bawling myself out for this poor little girl.
That poor little girl. I want to travel back in time to give Eugenia a hug and tell her that she's beautiful.
I like how even though all of those people were originally mocking her she apparently was such a nice person that they ended up liking her to the extent even her personality was remembered as pleasant and friendly
I love this comment! Makes all the harsh comments that much less painful.
Then again she was a commoner living with the nobolity as some sort of pet and given her condition (Probably a hormonal disorder) she had very few options. She was most likely humoring them so she wouldn't be kicked out of the palace.
@@user-unos111 While true, at the same time, they would've taken pleasure out of humbling someone like this who had a bad attitude. What would she do to them if they decided to torment the attitude out of her? Nothing.
Prader-Willi syndrome means she had very low IQ. Fortunately, it's unlikely that she could understand mockery that wasn't really, really pointed.
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Humbling someone with bad attitude? Pfff, more like the reverse.
Charles' projection issues are so strong I can feel it centuries later.
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Right! Shame on that man
This comment wins lmao
so true! he must've been an awful person.
I wish I could just hug this little girl and tell her just how beautiful she really was, she was just a little kid and it’s heartbreaking.
You have such a sensitive way of describing her, which is lovely. The ignorance of the time must have been heartbreaking but they would not have known better. She is very fortunate that the King and court brought her in to the Royal household (if only for mockery, initially), because she did appear to receive better quality of life. Thank you for sharing.
She was adorable. I don’t know how anyone finds it in them to mock a child, much less a child with a disability smh. Heartless. May she rest in peace.
Or any human being really.
and this being done by adults. kids and teens lack judgement so although its shitty, it makes some sense. I was a shitty 14yo. Now as im older, i cant imagine doing something like this. Adults have the maturity to know that you dont do that...so what the hell.
@@mhm77887 It looks like he may have had hydrocephalus. Combined with his circumstances (royal culture being totally wack), his own disability may have contributed to his lack of empathy, compassion, and kindness. (I'm just speculating as a layperson that he may have had many reasons he never really "grew up.") Doesn't make it ANY less tragic what happened at his court though. That poor girl :(
People are disgusting sometimes.
Back in those days children weren't regarded as full humans, seen and not heard for the most part.
The second painting of Eugenia looks like she is about to cry... I cannot even imagine the amount of pain she had to go through...
If you look closely you can see tears painted in her eyes :(
@@angiepahl5489 makes me want to cry
I see her painting and she looks so familiar and I wish I could have been her friend ❤️
It must not have been enough for her to diet. I mean, it's physically impossible to gain weight if you consume less Calories than your metabolic rate burns. No doubt her metabolism was slow or, most likely, she had a thyroid issue but that never means you can't lose weight just by not eating more than you need. She probably had to stay fat or get kicked out of the palace.
@@dickJohnsonpeter Well, people with Prader-Willi Syndrome are constantly hungry and will eat all the time. The only way to prevent them from becoming dangerously obese early in life is to lock all the food in their house up and leave them feeling hungry a lot of the time. If she had PWS unless the palace people were controlling her diet, she would probably have just continued eating.
@@dickJohnsonpeter If you want to see a modern version of Eugenia here you go:
www.news.com.au/lifestyle/parenting/kids/new-hope-for-obese-18monthold-who-cant-stop-eating/news-story/bb52e663040db161bbe26db7c09b1afd
i love how empathetic your description of all the incidents are, without making it sensational or clickbait-y. binging all of your videos, subscribing!
your sympathy for her and slight judgement of those who treated her cruelly comes through perfectly in your narration
I don't believe her parents didn't know what they were doing, but I imagine saying no to the king wasn't much of an option. The poor child.
Def not an option. 😕
In those days, it might have been viewed as the best possible future for her. Where would she work? Who would marry her? At least in the palace she would be fed, housed, protected, and have a life of relative luxury. She would be made fun of at home or made fun of at the palace. So may as well go to the palace.
In a way i hope having other people of pleasure around made her feel the warmth of a community in a way that staying in her village surrounded by ableist assholes (while also starving) couldn't.
It reminds me of how when circus "freak" shows got banned, the performers themselves were opposed to it because they'd lose their communities of similar people and livelihood. They'd just be forced back into a cruel society with next to no job prospects.
@@tesso.6193 exactly, and I am very sure the other "freaks" at the court were close comrads, so they would help each other.
She was unlikely to ever become married, doubly so as they came to realize she was probably infertile. This was likely the best fate she could have expected to have. She had a roof over her head, food on her plate, and a job to do, however sucky it was.
I love how a majority of the comments are just roasting the king
One has to roast an inbred deformed king who laughed at other people's deformities
he deserves it
Turn up the heat 🔥
Too many commercials!
I’m here for it
Is it me or does she look absolutely cute? Poor thing. Hope she found happiness and love somewhere, somehow.
I actually almost cried listening, mostly because she has a very similar appearance to myself. Just looking at her and listening to her story made me want to cry because I understand her. I want to give her a hug and tell her it’s okay even though she’s been dead for centuries. I know her pain of feeling worthless for your weight, and through it all you smile. I want to go to her statue not for the painter but for the girl it was for and lay flowers. She didn’t deserve it, she wasn’t happy and I wish I was there to tell her she wasn’t defined by her appearance just because people said she was. May she Rest In Peace free from all the pain, not brought by her illness but by those her treated her like she wasn’t worth anything.
I’m gonna be honest, the portrait of her I find quite beautiful. The second one, where you can see she’s undressed though I don’t love, she looks like she’s in so much pain and embarrassment. She deserved so much better I’m sure she was so kind.
Edit: I JUST SAW ALL THE LIKES SPECIAL GOODNIGHT TO YALL❤️❤️
She was a very pretty little girl. Being heavy didn’t change that.
If you look closely at her eyes in that painting. You can see she's crying. There's tears coming out of her eyes. I wonder if she was even chaperoned by another woman while this was going on. No telling what kind of torture these people went through to entertain the so-called royalty. And they weren't paid? They were nothing but slaves!
She looks a lot like youtuber Amberlynn Reid, who I've long suspected has Prader-Willi syndrome. She purportedly weighed 300 lbs at age 11, and currently weighs nearly 600 lbs at age 30.
@@Cloudancer2024 lol YOU ARE RIGHT
Dont forget people at the time used to exagerate the portraits.
Like making a certain lady more prettier than she already is or a certain lad less fat or not bald xD and that was acceptable lol.
Esp in long distance courting
The statue's forehead showing the chemical change from countless people kissing her forehead warms my heart,,,
Really?? That's so sweet 🥺❤️
@@itaflores1325 yeah you see faded parts on statues all the time for luck or for fun. Dog statues will have worn out heads from petting and human statues often have worn out lips and crotches haha
awwwwwwwww that is so sweet
That’s so sweet and nice, but my germaphobe self is disgusted (just bc it probably doesn’t get washed often and many people just kiss each other in a second hand way)
@@-_-Starman-_- unvarnished brass will disinfect itself, killing mold, viruses and living cells
This reminds me going to a fair when I was a lot younger than I am today. My friends payed to get into a house of horrors. The horrors turned out to be rats and lizards snakes and what was called 'the fat lady'. She sit at the end of the trailer behind a glass window wearing a bikini and people just stared at her. It was so hot in there and she looked as miserable as I imagine a woman can look. We got out of there as quickly as we could.
Forty-five years later I still think of her and hope that some way she got out of that employment. They say confession is good for the soul so that's why I'm telling you. I am so sorry for what I did to this woman.
bro idk why people were bullying her! she's literally so fkin adorable! her round face and chubby cheeks are so cute! people are so mean for no reason.
Charles II of Spain’s autopsy: “The autopsy records his body "did not contain a single drop of blood; his heart was the size of a peppercorn; his lungs corroded; his intestines rotten and gangrenous; he had a single testicle, black as coal, and his head was full of water."
*[oh, the irony...]*
I thought you made that up, and I was going to compliment you on your writing skills. But I ran a quick search, and sure enough, that's what the autopsy reads!
@@Random-ot7me it would seem like a work of fiction except the man’s genetic pool was so small that this account is likely not too far from reality. 😬
@@beverlybarnes3122 it didn’t work so she was lucky 🤣
he was also an incest baby
Yes, this is actually true, because I've read it before. It sounds like he suffered from widespread infection starting in his intestines tbh.
Wow, that's bold as hell considering how the Spanish kings looked.
Poor kiddo
That's probably why they wanted to surround themselves with people with unusual phenotypes; so they'd look more "normal" in comparison.
HA!! Right? They used the unfortunate people to distract from their own shortcomings.
Inbred
Reminds me of the Red queen in Alice in wonderland (the live action movie).
the king was known for his "hapsburg jaw" due to inbreeding
As a spanish person, your pronounciation of the language is impeccable
To everyone portraying Charles II as the villain in the comments: He probably made few of these decisions himself, and even less so out of some sadist instinct to mock her. The man was as much a victim of his era as she was, with severe mental disabilities that rendered him essentially child-like into adulthood. He was constantly in pain, had outlandish expectations of ruling a country and continuing a dynasty placed upon him despite being infertile, his cranium wasn’t even closed. He was just conscious enough to know that there was something wrong with him. Existence is misery. Cut the man some slack.
people are quick to hate, especially for "noble" reasons so that they can get off on feeling superior while at the same time behaving no different. I feel sorry for the guy tbh, he was admittedly ekhm... a lot worse looking than the girl and was probably in a lot of mind-numbing pain by the sound of it
It's so annoying to see assholes portraying Charles II as the villain while he suffered 5 times more
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he's fucking dead who cares.
Imagine Charles II mocking someone else's appearance! He must have avoided mirrors.
THIS!! 😂
Maybe he, most of all needed others, worse off than himself to make him feel that he was more normal.
Inbreeding! They were nasty people marrying only in their close families.
To quote another you tuber: “with a chin that could hit a home run.”
Right! I was thinking the same thing!
The real monsters were the ones who mocked her. Poor child. What a life she had. :(
Yes. I think she was such cute little girl.
It is shocking that she was at court for entertainment. This coming from Charles 2nd, who himself was so inbred that he couldn’t close his mouth and had many ailments. It’s just sad...
I have ZERO sympathy for her. Sorry; not sorry
@@jesmei6920 because she suffered from a genetic disorder? 😢
Yes, the Spanish are a very "civilized" people.
I can't imagine the pain she's enduring during those times, she remains a strong girl despite of that. Fly high, angel.
I'm glad you noted Prader-Willi syndrome which is the first thought that ran through my head as an physician intern. I grew up skinny but after medical school, I gained a few pounds from the stress of motherhood plus medical school. I feel for this girl because no one likes a fat girl. She deserves all the respect that anyone can give her.
How can Charles make fun of anyone when he literally looks likes he gets flattened by falling pianos on the daily?!
Asserting dominance to the other disableds
😂😂😂😂
projecting his insecurities, trying to find people who also have flaws so he could "look better" compared to them....
the girl actually has a very pretty face so jokes on him, her weight doesn't make her look worse than his crooked face
Brilliant ! Lol 😆
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
She actually looks kinda cute. Like, idk. Her hair makes her look adorable and she looks nice in red.
Yes. Aside from the obesity, which she couldn't control, she's quite a lovely girl.
@@brigidtheirish and yeah she was really sweet
@@brigidtheirish her weight doesn't make her any less cute 🤷 she isn't cute despite her weight, she's cute. period, but that's just my opinion
@@sleepyclowns I don't think obesity is cute, it's a medical problem, which is why I made the distinction.
@@brigidtheirish I didn't say anything about finding obesity cute, or finding her weight alone cute. and if you're saying being overweight/fat in itself is unhealthy, don't speak about things your uneducated on cus there's a difference between being fat and being obese
but other than that I apologize for how long this comment is lmao
The absolute sadness in that poor baby's face will haunt me forever. 😔
The paintings of Eugenia are so haunting... she looks so sad and dejected. It's very hard to decide whether Eugenia was better off at court than she would have been at home. Perhaps she would have had the love of her parents but she might have been consigned to life in her room and would have had a much worse diet, but the psychological damage inflicted on her at court would have been terrible. It's a pity that the hypocritical Charles didn't look in the mirror more often and confront his own deformities due to the inbreeding of the Bourbons. He was the real Monster of the palace for exploiting the misfortunes of others for entertainment.
BTW, hats off for your excellent Spanish pronunciation. So many people don't make an effort to get it right.
Inbreeding of the *Habsburgs
He was from the House of Habsburg
@@nerner266 Whoops :D
Poor Eugenia. The portrait of her crying is actually breaking my heart. I wish I could give her a big hug and comfort her :(
Me, too. Poor little precious girl.
same
She was probably told to look teary when the painter was doing her face part.
@Brennan
She was 6, taken from her family, and forced to stand still for hours nude. Asked to cry... don't ge ridiculous
The worst thing that happened to her was being named the female version of Eugene.
She looked so very unhappy in those portraits. The fact that they took her away from her family at such a tender age and then mocked and insulted her, must have all been too much for her to bear. I see a well of deep sadness in the eyes of that poor young woman. God rest her in eternal peace. To be remembered so well by the people of her home country and have had a statue created in her honour is very special. Its lovely to think that people still remember her even though there are only two paintings of her bless her heart.
Yes, in the painting where she was the youngest, she even looks like she's about to cry.
It was the town her family lived in that mocked and insulted her to the point she became a prisoner of the family home. Being kept at the court would have been a vast improvement where it was reported that she was well liked. Objectified always, she likely felt isolated. Her weight issues caused her pain which may be reflected or enhanced for the portrait's painting to evoke more feeling. Paintings played a bigger role in that day. We forget how important when living in this social media age of selfies. The people that consider her due to the painting were those at court.
Miss Carly, I feel the EXACT SAME WAY about this story, that poor innocent child. NO WONDER some people grow up to be serial killers. 😢
If you look at those old paintings, very few people were smiling. Probably for the same reason early photography had no smiles. You would have to smile the entire time, which is very uncomfortable to do. She probably had the best life. She could have during that era. She obviously had a medical condition, which was beyond the era’s technology. IMO her family would not be able to give her the care she needed. She unfortunately would’ve been mocked wherever she lived. It’s a sad tale but in the same vein of childhood morality rates stated at the beginning of the video.
Looks like a typical South American/Spanish colonisers in South America. What? I'm just speaking truth. Fat is part of that truth.
I’ve always felt overwhelming compassion and defensive about anyone who people shunned, ridiculed or made fun of. I honestly don’t know where it came from or why, but I remember at a very young age (elementary school) befriending and standing up for those who were picked on. My husband, has said many times that he’s never known anyone who did that. He owned a restaurant/bar with a live music venue and I was always bringing people, who I felt were lonely, or if I heard someone make a rude comment about a person, I was sure to bring them to our table. I find it unacceptable to be cruel or condescending to someone over their looks, or whatever doesn’t suit your fancy.
Nothing much as changed. Society still spends its time mocking and bullying people who are different. It is sad that her parents, who obviously loved her, had no say in the matter when the palace called for her. Nice presentation of this girl's story. Thank you.
So true. In some parts of the world more so during some times in history that includes people who are fulfilling non-traditional gender roles at work too.
The painter had compassion for Eugenia-you can see by the way he portrayed her.
yeah there is a real tenderness in the paintings they are quite sad actually
She really was quite beautiful 😍 Poor child 😢😔
She looks so sad in each portrait
If the painter had compassion for her, I would think that he wouldn't have painted her undressed so that her humiliation was complete. But people had different sensibilities then.
@@janegreene2838 and when the King requests....this is a country that had seen the Spanish Inquisition. They KNEW what was possible from royalty. When the king says paint this child...you paint the child.
I can't imagine the abuse and humiliation this poor, pretty little baby went through just because she was big, which was way more than likely due an underlying health condition.
Yes poor baby
Yes my feeling exactly. Poor baby. Pictures are heartbreaking.
It likely would’ve been worse living in her small village to be ridiculed by her peers and living in isolation
Yeah definitely a hormonal problem, that couldn’t be fathomed or treated back then.
@@lunapyrope9683 My dyslexia read that as fat homed. I was about to ask you what's fat homed but reread.
Kings and queens of that time period had ABSOLUTE power over all of their subjects. No one was spared humiliation, not even the people considered to be the ideal of beauty of the era. Charles himself was perfectly aware of all of his own afflictions. He surrounded himself with “strange” looking people so he wouldn’t be the only odd duck in the room. Life can be cruel, even to kings.
I hope she found enjoyment living in the palace. That she saw some sort of positive in all of it, that despite her situation and the way some people mistreated her, that there were those that truly enjoyed her company for who she was rather then what she looked like.
He probably surrounded himself with what he considered “freaks” to make him feel better about himself and his own homely appearance. It’s always tragic to be taken from one’s family.
That's what I was thinking too, maybe he hoped people would be too busy mocking her to mock him (considering his nickname was "The Bewitched," he failed if that was indeed his goal...)
There was some incest in his family I’m sure. He seems off.
He has what is known as "The Hapsburg jaw" , where the bottom teeth protrude further out than the top teeth.
Behind his back he was as much a "curiosity" as the "freaks" he tormented.
He was born out of a long line of inbred royalty a line which the House Of Windsor has a connection to , probably why the current English royal family has encouraged William and Harry to marry women from outside the English aristocracy..........😂😂💯%❤️
always fun to see someone whose family tree is a square mock other people's appearance...
@@christopherleonard247 There was incest in his family for hundreds of years in a row. The Hapsburgs are the most famous examples of royal incest in European history.
The incestuous royal family has no room to talk with their own well seen deformities that were brought on by their own greed. My heart breaks for this young girl.
That’s probably why they have those people around so they’d look “normal” by comparison.
@@MaddysinLeigh Unfortunately, yes😢😠
You captured perfectly how I feel. Thanks to this channel, her story is being heard.
Very well put I agree
I was thinking the same thing.
it’s truly heartbreaking that she was used to uplift the skinny women back then but it’s not surprising. it’s still happening today. i knew some skinny girls who had plus sizes friends in high school and i’d always see them posting with each other on social media but the second high school was over the skinny girls had unfollowed them. now i guess i can’t say for certain that that was the reason but i’m assuming it is because they wanted to feel better about themselves and their body bc god forbid they would actually have to learn to love themselves w/out doing so.
I always have felt embarrased about how muscled my calves are and my upper arms too whenever I have to work hard doing physical labor. When at normal weiight for my height and during the winter months too more often so when my hair is short too then people assume that I am a man. My mom went through the same only worse because she is 4 inches taller than me. Sometimes men would ask her for a dance and then when she stood up they would run away.
I saw the statue in Avilés in 2013 and have a picture somewhere. Now I know her story. While watching, it was one of those moments where you realize you have actually seen what is being shown and have no expectation of the memory about to surface.
That poor baby. No one asks to be born , and yet this poor girl couldn’t even feel comfortable around the people who should love her the most. Heartbreaking
I know right?
And the fact stuff like this still goes on today, and people have the audacity to lie about also going through it for attention
Her parents did love her, however, and did all they could for her.
If you had nothing, could barely afford a doctor, and someone rich came by and said, "I will give your desperately ill child everything she needs, and she'll live with me for my amusement," you'd be tempted because the tradeoff would be worth it.
“A sculpture of Eugenia was made-“
Me: oh that’s nice
“-in honor of the artist who painted her”
Yeah I was like "wtf??😂" When I heard it 😂
damn
yeah terrible decision making at work
I was a bit miffed by the wording as well. She was mocked and belittled in life, treated like an object of scorn and ridicule, and then the statue was NOT for her, but for the man who named her a monster and had her stand in pain to capture her likeness, both clothed AND NUDE. As a child. For his own fame and fortune. All the comments here mock Charles II and talk about how horrible it was to treat a child like that... but people IN OUR CURRENT TIME IN SOCIETY thought it'd be cool to honor the PAINTER, and still treated the girl like an object to further HIS fame. I dunno, just made me salty. Sorry for the rant. You just provided an easy outlet to vent that feeling I got when the narrator said those words. xD
@@lux3226 I felt the same way. I was immediately sickened. But, then I realized when most people look at the statue, they don't think about the painter, they think about Eugenia. ;)
Thank you for sharing this child's story with respect, empathy, and context about social norms in those days. I hadn't heard of her before, but now I can't forget her.
She looks so sad and hurt in both paintings (I looked them up after watching this video). I've seen plenty of MODERN children her size, caused by diseases or unhealthy diets (or both). I can't imagine inflicting such emotional abuse on them, and it breaks my heart that Eugenia and her fellow "entertainers" had to suffer like that. I hope that she made good friends with the other people in her position at court, so that all of them could support one another and feel loved by someone.
Such a heart touching story. The girl truely deserved a good life
I’m confused why she was called a freak, she’s big but she wasn’t bad looking, her portrait looks sad but she’s not at all ugly, she’s fairly adorable IMO. She was probably very beautiful as an adult
And was there no fat people or something ? 😂 like was everyone so skinny that when someone is fat they’re like 🥳🥳🥳🥳
@@hunterjardine7148 it's because she was so extremely big at a young age. In my country it's rare to see an really obese adult and it's hard not to stare because you only hear about people like that living in America. Now imagine seeing an extremely obese child if you never saw one before. I would be shocked af. I wouldn't treat them like a freak but the medieval times weren't that nice and a lot of things they did back then were fucked up. I'm really sad for this girl.
@@hunterjardine7148 Only in North America sickly obesity is "normal". You barely meet 300kg people everywhere else even today. Since we are talking about the 17th century only the very wealthy people might had been overweight. Like under 1 % of the population. Obesity is not healthy nor was ever common. A wet dream in times of starvation though.
I think it was hard for common people to get so big. They didn't have addictive food made more palatable by adding sugars and salt.
beauty standars were different in the 17th century
I had a similar chronic illness that started when I was 14. It's caused Cushing's disease/syndrome, and has many of the same symptoms, being caused in my case due to a hormone producing tumor in my head. Despite being a pretty athletic kid previously I ended up putting on weight suddenly and uncontrollably, and despite trying to make healthy changes it didn't stop. Eventually I starved myself for two weeks, passed out at the mall, and finally got help. Took three surgeries to solve the problem and to this day I'm without both my adrenal glands.
this is awful, I'm sorry you had to go through this.
I am sorry, you went through all this.. Hope you are well..... God bless you. 🙏🙏
Got major thyroid problems myself. I was 12 and they kept telling me to lose weight instead of figuring out why I was gaining all this weight.
Thank the "gods" for SCIENCE LOL
I was thinking maybe she had thyroid disease, but Cushing makes sense too. Poor child.
Love how he made fun of people when he looked like the physical embodiment of the word "inbred" 💀
Thank you so much for adding Captions, They are very helpful for those of us who have difficulty hearing!
love how the Spanish king makes fun of other people, meanwhile he looks like a pokemon red sprite
DAMN
Nay, id even say he looks like a pokemon green sprite
because he is the king...
Dont disrespect pokemons haha
I don't know what that is
as a disabled person, it never fails to sadden and enrage me when I see how disabled people have always been mocked and treated callously.
the king himself was obviously inbred, and although he can’t help that and I don’t think targeting what people can’t help is a good insult, it is ironic he would put other people in that position.
but it's not ironic at all. The dwarf character in game of thrones says he loved to make fun of his (mentally) disabled cousin b/c it was the only thing that made him feel like everyone else. This is a very human thing. Also he's not acting any different from other monarchs of the time, these menageries of unusual people at court were common.
If you think the Habsburgs had inbreeding problems, consider that the Egyptian pharaohs had a thing for incestuous marriages!
@@helvete_ingres4717 :( it's "human" to mock people?... what? :(
@@dottyContrarian well, isn't it? I don't see dogs or birds or other species doing it. And it wasn't really my point - it's human to want to fit in, and that's sometimes why people mock or bully others. You will never understand human beings if you don't acknowledge these things b/c they're not 'nice' or w/e
Misery loves company
Not me writing a research paper and somehow ending up here… WHY IS THE COMMENTATOR MAKING ME BLUSH
We're all making fun of the King for his hypocrisy, but I can't help but ask:
Was it even his choice? Did he even have the mental capacity to make choices?
Charles was inbred at its worst and barely could even walk due to his own disabilities so I can definitely believe this. He was ridiculed too so I can only imagine he would project it onto anyone he could find
Reminds me of the queen of hearts in Alice in wonderland.
Don't you think perhaps the person narrating this portrayed things worse than they were and that she was actually happy as he said at the end? I mean, what do kings do, but try to make sure everyone is eating properly and stuff? If he took in people who couldn't work otherwise, it was a Godsend for them. I don't believe they were constantly ridiculed. I think this is a false narrative.
@@brennanarmacost1762 don't be daft
@@brennanarmacost1762 there's literally a portrait that he made her pose nude for that she's crying. Kings have never been the kind leaders that fairytales portray, they often were self serving and only took any care of people because if they didn't they wouldn't have tax money, or would be killed
@@brennanarmacost1762 and stuff?
I feel so bad for her, she seemed like a sweet kid just trying to live. Plus being Spanish myself, Charles had an under bite that could crack a walnut so it's odd he called her a monster.
What he was lacking downstairs, he made up for in chin.
@@breewashere He was infertile, so his habsburg heritage made up for it
@@breewashere was he screwing chicks with his chin??😂🤣🤣
@@missvida6251yeah chin deep
@@missvida6251 a whole 3-4 inches
She really deserved the warmest hug, I hope she’s resting easily 🙏✨
I can’t help but think those small highlights in the corners of her eyes in her nude portrait are from tears.
Having a girl strip naked for a portrait is horrific.
The AUDACITY of Charles, the one who would drool when he ate and had a head full of water (during his autopsy) mocking someone. 🙄
It's probably BECAUSE his head was full of water
I don't want to imagine the horror that was to be married to such an ugly and foolish man 😅🤢
@@kismetr1795 lol
his head is the gene pool
all these comments about Charles are extremely ableist. As soon as a disabled person does something you don't like (such as *checks notes* - gives a sick/disabled child a better life than she'd have had literally anywhere else with access to the best medicine of the time), the mask really comes off. And you're all mocking him for not matching conventional beauty standards b/c of genetics outside his control b/c..he was mean or something to someone who did not match conventional beauty standards (presumably) b/c of genetics outside her control. And you all act like you'd have acted do much better, you've just been socialised with different values. I mean of all the actions of monarchs throughout history (including wars that killed millions and genocide) I don't think 'laughing at a fat girl' ranks very highly. Also he looks majestic and kingly in that painting wearing his armor and long flowing locks.
I love how we are roasting the hell out of Charles. 😂
Charles himself the victim of inbreeding.
Yeah, so much hypocrisy.
It's funny people are making fun of his appearance while at the same time hating him for making fun of Eugenia's appearance. Doing the same thing makes you not much better than the person who did it in the first place, making you appear superficial.
@@ioncekilledamanwithmyshoe He bullied a little girl for her appearance. He deserves it, so it’s not the same.
@@ioncekilledamanwithmyshoe I mean ugly is ugly.
Her portraits are displayed in the Prado Museum in Madrid. I visited recently, and oh my god, the sadness in the paitings is so much more apparent when you see them up-close in real life
She was probably one of history’s first victims of PCOS. Poor girl, my heart aches
That was my first thought.
She had a brave heart and a gentle but strong will. She made the most of an otherwise miserable life. She isn't a monster, she's a gentle giant.
You met her?
@@dickJohnsonpeter "No White Guilt" xD Dude, I'm so sorry...
@Yirlani don't even bother trying. You're a wannabe troll no one's gonna reply
My son was just shy of 9 pounds at birth. Growing up, he was always taller and bigger than other kids his age. He was also diagnosed with Aspberger’s. He is now nearly 22, 6’ 5” and holds three college degrees. I call him, my gentle giant.
@@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwyxz102
Exactly! Don’t feed the evil troll.
Honestly, aside from being overweight, the portraits of her show her to have had a very pretty face.
Poor girl.
Oh, yes, very pretty. Dude, she looks like a female version of Hagrid
@@NigelUltra people can be large or overweight and pretty if you are insinuating otherwise.
@@caitlinb35 Did you seriously just hit me with a worst/most negative interpretation? Not everyone is such an evil thinker like you.
@@NigelUltra LMAO did you just hit me with the most dramatic response ever? If that's not what you meant you could have just said "I didn't mean that in my comment" (which btw my "if" left room for) but instead you just straight up call me evil for a fairly mild interaction? How else is "Oh yes. Very pretty... Dude she looks like a female Hagrid" supposed to be taken?
@@caitlinb35 If my comment is the most dramatic response ever, yours just beat it, LMAO. Again you interpreted my comment in the most negative way possible. Also, me calling her a female child hagrid or whatever in no way gives the idea that I mean all fat people are ugly. I haven't even ever thought of that up until now thanks to you lol. That's why I called you an evil thinker. You thought of that. I did not.
I absolutely love your channel. Your videos really introduce me to fascinating human beings I'd never known existed. You're such an amazing storyteller. Thank you 😊
My family is from Avilés and I wanted to say that the bronce statue showed at the end actually looks quite beautiful in person, doesnt look right on photos.
Really enjoyed the video, thank you!
Poor sweet Engenia. If the painting of her face was anything realistic I think she was quite beautiful. I hope the gorgeous lady is resting in peace.
No, she wasn't. I hate when people lie to make themselves look good.
@@BabsChannel maybe, just maybe, people actually think she’s pretty and aren’t bitter assholes like you 🙂
@@trash0175 Can you make me?
@@weirdosthatdoweirdthingsar3355 I'm not bitter. I just don't like phoneys.
@@BabsChannel ok bitter person 👍
I guess Charles hated how he looked so he found others that could be mocked instead of him. 🤷♀️
That's what I thought as well. While I do understand it plainly sucks to have a deformity and be ridiculed. It still doesn't make it right for him to project it on other people to make himself feel better.
Pretty darned likely!
It's just like the insecure girls in jr high, surrounding themselves with "ugly" friends, just to make themselves look attractive in comparison.
I agree. That was most likely why he was fascinated with her.
Exactly
Just to defend Charles II, he did not only have physical disabilities, he also had mental disabilities, so it's kind of understandable for childish behaviour to show up. They also regarded him as a really kind person, so they probably got along pretty well after some time had passed.
The king was a monster. Objectifying a child. I'm glad we can now look back and see it in the correct light. Disdain on the "king", and glad that the artist showed how sad she was.
Me, reading the comments: "oh wow everyone's ragging on this king. I'm sure he can't look that weird. It's probably because he exploited a child and everyone is commenting about how ugly he was on the insi-"
*portrait comes up*
Oh ok so yea he actually really looked like the love child of the guy from the goonies and pumpkinhead
He was not a good looking man due to inbreeding. so you have disability mocking a disability not a smart man no matter who you are.
Even if the Spanish king wasn’t physically “ugly”, only those with an ugly heart make fun of others’ physiques & disabilities. You don’t have to be physically ugly to be called, “ugly”. If you’re an arrogant jerk who treats others horribly, you’re ugly. Also, I haven’t stumble across ANY King from the past who I’d considered to be decent or fairly good-looking (they were all physically unattractive, tbh), but in Charles’ case, he was the most unsightly of them all, as well as, ugly on the inside.
U r hysterical! 😅😅😅
That's the House of Hapsburg for you!
And he was the last of his line, IIRC, from pedigree collapse.
A very respectful and human look at a child deprived of respect for her humanity. Unrelated note, that orange fabric in her dress is some of the most beautiful cloth I've ever seen. I hope she got to feel beautiful sometimes.
My husband’s niece has been exactly like this girl. When she was born, she was only 7 lbs and 18 inches long but by the time she was 2 years old, she was so heavy that we couldn’t pick her up. It didn’t help that her mother never cooked meals and fed her nothing but processed foods loaded with calories, sugars, fats and preservatives. She would eat 4 or 5 hot dogs at a time, large amounts of chips and they’d give her all the Mt Dew & chocolate milk that she wanted. They bought her share size M&M’s everyday. Starting when she was 2, they’d get her a Happy Meal from McD’s bc she’d get Chicken Nuggets small fry small coke, bag of apples plus they’d order her another large fry, I’m dead serious. As she got older she’d eat more at a time. When she started Kindergarten, she was 3 to 4 times bigger than the other kids her age. She weighed 75 lbs at 5. None of this is her fault and all of the adults in her life won’t stop giving her the junk food and are going to cause her to die from cardiac arrest at a young age.
Imagine being a grown adult with kids and go out of your way to bully a child.
Just so many evil, undeserving, worthless people.
I had a a nephew with Prader-Willi who also died young. I knew from the fist second it had to be Eugenia's syndrome, my nephew was just the same. These are the kindest, gentlest souls you will ever find, trapped in a body which constantly screams for food since they don't have the ability to feel full. So very sad.
Prader-Willi was the first thing I thought of. As a nurse I have seen patients with this syndrome.
That was my first thought, too. It's a vicious condition, absolutely merciless.
May your nephew's memory be a blessing.
It must be torture to live with Prader-Willi. I’m sorry for your family’s loss but hopefully he’s released from his pain. Especially sad for Eugenia because disabilities were treated harshly throughout history. Hopefully they’ll come up with a cure or better treatment options in the future.
I was thinking prader-Willi from the beginning as well. They still don't have treatments for this constant hunger they feel. I wonder if traditional weight loss surgery could help them to feel less hungry because it makes the stomach very small.
I wonder if this is what Venus Angelic struggles with. She’s slim, but she says she never feels full and has struggled desperately to keep her weight down. She even went to South Korea for illegal weight loss surgery and nearly died out of desperation to stay slim.
It’s so strange to me that Charles II would have human “curiosities” at his court when he was the biggest curiosity of them all! So inbred he could barely walk or chew his food! What a sad and interesting story! Excellent video!!
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition...
Seriously, this was at the height of the Inquisition when all sorts of unspeakable, sadistic acts were perpetrated by the church and the crown.
Because everyone would be kissing his arse, he was the king. But I don’t think Charles’ fascination with odd people is out of place at the time, and I don’t think it came from malice, those people were there just to entertain but I don’t think they were mistreated, they were being paid for their services.
What a better way to distract from your self.
@@Hudpix16 He literally clarifies that the people at court weren't getting paid for anything bro💀
@@DeadKraken yeah I meant they were paid with room and board. I’m sure this girl would have been seen by physicians, but there was nothing they could have done to alleviate her pain.
It’s a shame, because despite being big she wasn’t exactly ugly. She was actually pretty, but also prettier than the king himself.
I feel better about myself now too. Thank you. After I ended up in a roll over car accident almost 5 years ago now at age 60 while recovering I have put on a lot of weight.