The Dark Life of the French King’s Satanic Mistress | Madame de Montespan
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Welcome to Forgotten Lives! In today's episode we are looking into the life of the Madame de Montespan the royal mistress of King Louis XIV who was involved in the infamous scandal the affair of the poisons!
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I'm confused. Why are the french names said in a Spanish pronunciation? Really heavy and thick
Seems to be a device to lay all blame on the mistress while absolving the king. “No he didn’t commit adultery, he was bewitched by black magic...”
Quite. Anne Boleyn was accused of 'bewitching' Henry VIII as well.
That’s patriarchy for ya
Welcome to HIS-tory
Men till this day 😆
@@solcorvinusoftiktok9907 lol shut up with your patriarchy bs
Is it so hard that a woman was simply so charismatic and smart that she climbed to the top of society accessible to her with her own wits.
I know right?! She can't have just been that smart, she had to have had a deal with the devil. Typical.
She was hardly at the bottom of society, in the first place.
Did I ever say she was ?
Smart and/or intelligent women get looked over all the time even to this day...she did what worked well for her.
Nah, impossible. Had to be the devil
As a native french speaker, let me just say that your pronunciation of french names is really good. Usually, non-french speaker a hard time with that.
il a dead ça
Actually since marrying a Parisian it has been made clear to me that the English have a lot of trouble pronouncing French unless they have lived there or learned well from native French. It is to do with the inflections the English put on words when the pronounce them. We do the same with Latin, apparently! I can’t win…
His prononciation is awful !!! Ta quoi dans les oreilles ?
@@mortenmoicmoigladys1236 Ce que j’ai dans les oreilles, c’est une bande d’anglophones qui, pour la plupart, ne font même pas l’effort d’essayer de parler un peu français malgré le fait que ce soit un cour de langue seconde OBLIGATOIRE. Les rare qui s’y essaie massacre tellement la prononciation qu’on ne comprend qu’un mot sur cinq et encore. So much for an official bilingual country. Alors oui, si un anglophones fait l’effort d’essayer de prononcer un nom français correctement et qu’on arrive à le comprendre, je considère qu'il se débrouille bien. Apprendre une autre langue est difficile. Surtout quand on est pas entouré de personnes dont c’est la langue maternelle.
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Why didn't the French just speak english in the first place? It would've been easier for all of us!
Satanism in nobility? I think I'm going to die of not surprise.
Especially during the 1600’s...By this time, you can find “black masses” and the overall worship of an almighty cruel deity in just about every kingdom. Let us not forget Sabbatai Zevi, and how he singlehandedly corrupted nearly half the global Jewish population, specifically that in the year 1666.
Right! 😒 Wtf
Lol
Ya ..... right ?
Cagliostro, Compte St Germain and Casanova made a handsome living selling occultism to 18th century nobles!
@Trey Stephens No, that is something that came much later. Sabbateanism is what you would refer to it as, and it's basic purpose was to commit as much sin as possible, so that one may "bring themselves closer to redemption and hasten the coming of God"... It's creator, Sabbatai Zevi, even so much as proclaimed himself as the Jewish Messiah (in the year 1666), invoking much disdain from the Orthodoxy at the time..
Sounds like a normal day in Hollywood
🤣🤣🤣🤣 This is my favorite comment.
I agree! Nothing to see here....🤭
Yes exactly
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Narrator sounds like he holds his nose every time he says "Montespa" so it sounds funny.
😂🤭
French is very difficult lol.
I couldn't agree more 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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@@Toyos-yk3ri Ahh - comci, comca (I've probably butchered the spelling there).
Brilliant but the way you kept saying “Motespa” laughing so hard 😂
It was the correct pronunciation of the name..have you ever heard a native french speaker..there is a lot of spit involved in that language
This woman must have intimidated a great many people, for such incredible tales to be told.
Her power was entirely linked to the king. The moment she fell from favor, she lost everything and faded in the background forever, like she once did to La Vallière. What goes around comes around.
@@alrune8 Her legitimized children went on to marry into other nobility and royalty. The royal families of Spain, Belgium, Luxembourg, Italy, and Portugal descend from her. "Lost everything" is a stretch. Plus, she was still wealthy enough to be charitable at the end of her life.
@@lebou9540 Indeed, but she no longer had the influence and power she once had.
Her children are a whole different subject since they were legitimized.
@@alrune8 I see but her children were an extension of her influence. That the King legitimized them and made sure they were set up well to carry on his legacy (and even considered her sons for the line of succession to France had his great-grandson not succeeded the throne) shows the power she had over that situation. The "Affair of the Poisons" was basically a conspiracy against her. In the end, she won and so did the King's second wife.
@@lebou9540 She would have won if Madame de Maintenon didn't exist. She still fell from grace and, despite all the rest, she sill had to recoil and fade in the background whereas Mme de Maintenon became the de facto new queen after the queen's death.
Plus, Madame de Montespan's political power was REALLY limited since she didn't care much for it. She was way too frivolous and whimsical to have any bearing on geopolitics or anything serious of the sort. Her influence was much more on the arts and social mores at court than anything else.
Sounds like she was a woman who was strong willed and knew what she wanted in life. Of course history would vilify that type of woman, sadly. History is told by the winners and usually only one side of the story, especially with royal families.
Not necessarily, lots of women who were strong willed have been remembered as heroines. Cleopatra, Elizabeth I, Joan of Arc, etc. Lots of people that didn’t “win” in that historic moment have still managed to tell their stories through other means.
Well yes and no, she's a gold digger but you can still be a smart gold digger who does good things with your money and influence.
@@melikey3758 not really. All we have are writings and stories and they are not from them... it was part of their story. Like Joan of arc.. one of my fav women.. her story was written and told through the Catholic Church. We all know how that ended.. they used her and then accused her of being a witch and burned her. Cleopatra prob had every right to try and kill who she did, but again, her story was written by the “royals” of that time. Sure people who idolizes those women you mentioned told their stories like we do today... but historical written accounts from their point of view are non existent and if they do exist please tell me Simon an read them.. I would love to read them. So again even though some women have “a story” told about them doesn’t mean it is truth and we have no idea of their side because we don’t have any writings from them that I am aware of.. sooo
@@Jaderabbit3485 gold digger.. ha.. I’m not a woman but I could only imagine what kind of life women had back then especially if your not royalty. She did what she had to do with what she had... HER WITS AND A CHARMING PERSONALITY.
@@jasonflorence127 yes, with her wit, charm, and influence she began a relationship with an incredibly powerful man who gifted her with more influence and money she would use later in life. I'm not saying she's not interesting or charming she very likely was and that helped her become head gold digger to the king of France i.e. Official Mistress. I'm not saying she's good or bad, I'm saying that she isn't being vilified as a strong woman, she was vilified because of the position she held that probably spawned jealousy and the ironic blasphemy of being official mistress while still married
Chile, it sounds like she put a root on her husband and made him lose his mind when he went back to the military where he abducted a whole woman then had to flee to Spain. The esoteric drama of it all!
I'm telling you. I believe that. Things went just *a little too well* for this lady, for her entire life.
She's by far my most favorite historical woman ever. Well one of them. But still she's had the most intriguing, mysterious and colorful life when it comes to historically famous women Imo. Whether she was a 'devil worshipper' (which I highly doubt was true) or not, she was a woman wise beyond her years who dedicated most of her life helping those in need and that's something I find to be very admirable.
Dont forget the poisonned gloves the black masses involving baby sacrifices etc.yes she was interesting.in the worse way
@@andreebesseau6995 Most historians agree that particular story to be a scandalous lie invented by her political enemies. This was very typical at the time. The one thing a woman truly possessed was her reputation. Rumors and lies about sex, witchcraft, poisoning, etc., were popular ways to destroy a woman's social standing at court, at the very least.
@Strong Woman Yes, Agreed!
Love these videos!
Always so interesting and well press, both the narration and the illustrations.
Good idea, Forgotten Lives. Ollie manages those languages very well. Thanks!
Did anyone else get THOROUGHLY TIRED of the name Montespan?
I love your intro. It reminds me of a 90s educational video
Waited till midnight to watch... And here we go
How you said Louis de La Tremouille made my day. 😭
The castle’s and architecture in those days is absolutely mind blowing- it doesn’t fit with the narrative the schools teach
7:28 when it gets to the part how the rituals are done, a Triple A commercial came on and talked about “by switching over to their insurance”. Now I’m afraid of Triple A.
Wow. I never thought I'd see hear of "devil worshipers" of the long forgotten. Thx for all your uploads and appreciate the work you put into these.
Can someone keep count of how many of theses dudes had the name "Louis"
Louis XIX (the 19th) was the last one of this line, unofficial king of France, but officially the line stopped with Louis XVI (the 16th).
I want a really long fancy name too
My parents totally dropped the ball smh
Your pronunciation is beyond reproach...my jaw dropped when you rattled off her name at the 0:37 timestamp...lol!
She sounds like a perfectly decent person to me. Thank you for a very informative and absorbing few minutes
Were you pinching your nose every time you said Montespan?
I love your channel I’m so glad I found it
Black Mass....so not much has changed then! We are still hearing stories of our modern hierarchy taking part in these rituals, right down to the killing of the children.
The Ovation series "Versailles" was really good. Not true history but l loved it!
Anyone ever read a book called The Punishment of Beauty? Killing and making love are the only two things people really enjoy. Oh yes, and staying alive.
2:17 she only got the roll because of he families name? Isn't it her name too, genius?
Are they all identical or is it just me
Finally, someone whose pronunciations are accurate!
Lol - the description of the black mass is so dramatic and cliché, I truly doubt it ever happened (at least, not in that way). 😂
Very interesting story! Thanks for sharing!
fantastic channel. good narrators also.
Hope all is well FL, thank you History Profiles for the narration!
How he says Madame de Montespan...French; what a beautiful language.
I do not like this woman, the TV show Versailles really ruined her for me. Yes I now its just a show but I know she was vindictive and did not treat the Queen with the respect due to her like other mistresses.
The King's treatment of women was no better.
I don't understand the Church's problem with her when there were hundreds of mistresses running around.
I don't believe she was any more involved with alternate ways of thinking that the others who were around her.
Now I'm wondering- what were the duties of a lady in waiting?
Basically the personal maid of the queens. By being the closest woman to the queen they gained influence and reputation. If they were unmarried when becoming a lady in waiting it could help them finding a high ranking hubby too 😃
if I could choose between getting a slap or hearing the guy say Motespan one more time, I'd choose the slap.
watch that show Versailles , dope af
What some people will do for money and power
Oh I actually thought that I might have come across a similar story of the Lady Voisin and lo and behold I was right! Cheers and keep up the good work! Khadeeja Alghali-Rahman (London, UK)👋👍⚓🕴️🐧🕸️🕷️🦟🐜🐂🦪🦋🦌🦅🐞🦜🍓💯🐍🐊🥬🏞️🗣️🧞🏖️🌴⛈️🐣🧭🤼🧈🌈☔🦄🔨🌛
Everytime he said Montespan it felt like going over a speed bump with no suspension
I came down here for this comment
Hahaha, I know .... Very Inspector Clouseau ....
Omg. That is the best way to put it! I also came down here for a comment on that pronunciation. It was driving me a little bit crazy
Dude my heart! 🤣
I have a montespan counter 😆
It was an honor to narrate on your channel thank you so much!
*: I "it is likely" that satanic rituals bewitched the king? This is maily a later added smear campain. Please keep this a channel of facts SMH
Oh wow. Yes I will come also to your channel. Good job on this story
Can you imagine the day the king says "you have served the crown well here's your pay there's the convent "say hello to the other mistresses
probably not completely unexpected though
You mean today? mhmm
At least she wasn't beheaded🤷🏾♀️
That’s what women do to their husbands today when they file for divorce and already have a new man
Sweet deal, really. Ladies didn't have to do the work of a common nun. And she had money. Even then, she may not havr taken vows.
Of course the courtiers around the King would point the finger at his mistress out of jealousy, as if any woman had any choice to say no to the King.
I doubt many wanted to say no, tbh...
Some women didn’t say no and others fought tooth and nail to reach that spot. It was a way to have power. Men achieved that power through was and women through who’s mistress they became
Hell, King James changed the wording of the Bible over a Gypsy woman...
@@helenturner3657 fyi g*psy is a slur but it is the term that would have been used at the time.
@@helenturner3657 what? Can you explain?
Moral of the story: don’t become a mistress to a king
If he liked you it was basically suicide to refuse...
Her story is very similar to Lady Castlemaine’s - except Charles II was a far kinder man.
@@heyyyguuurl Then you'd better be very good and very intelligent, otherwise your place will be taken by another. Montespan eventually fell and was never queen, just a royal mistress and her old age was much less glamorous.
King Loui woulda loved the 1980's hair metal scene!!!!
I now have my very new favourite way to spell "Louis", thanks!!
His hair is always so awful. LOL
Typical dark age way of getting rid of women, literally, it gets them executed. Poor thing, she didn’t do anything wrong except allow the king to fall in love with her. People suck.
This woman is way more complex than that. She used nothing but her determination, intelligence and amazing fortitude to gain power, prestige and fortune. The very best part is when she got older and craved the quieter life, she stepped back. She got a great deal as she doesn’t have to deal with an old bastard like the King! She lived more freely and used her wealth to found institutions that served the poor and needy. She’s a hero.
@@crunchy3771 I don’t think she was a hero. I think she was trying to buy her way to forgiveness of a guilty conscience.
@@tfeya777 she wasn't lol she was desprate for another woman's man. She's gross.
He probably was a jealous gay man
It all goes back to Adam and Eve. Adam blamed Eve ' The woman, that YOu gave me, she made me do it" Then she said " Satan made me do it *Lucifer* and she was correct he did. He knew how to wind her around to another kind of thinking. Yet all the time he knew better and it would end up in death, *physical, and even worse, at that time in history* and so being kicked out of the Garden Of Eden" and pain in childbirth and men /women working until the death." Under sweat of their brow"
Satan does not always need to work. Satan hires in any way possible those who will do his bidding. His words are sweet as honey, and yet will kill with the being way too sweet.
It all winds back to the beginning of time. Yet the woman was part of the man taken from his body, She was from the rib of man. Jesus never treated women second class though and was trying to teach men how to treat them equally
There's a novel "Angelique" which is set in the time of Louis XIV and the writers wrote about Madame de Montespan and La Valliere and many other characters. Angelique is a fictional character but some of the events and characters really happened and existed. So, it's a beautiful novel for those interested.
my mother and aunt have read those novels growing up
The movie starring michelle mercier was also pretty good
I have the entire series to date, but the final novel may never be published since the author died a couple of years ago. It's my favourite series.
Thank you for the recommendation.
@@michelepineau9657 Could you possibly help, please. I read up to her time among the indigenous people of North America/Canada. Did she die there or did she and her husband ever return to France?
I love it when someone is unpopular or does something to upset the status quo, they're a 'devil worshipper'. People don't change.
or when they do black magic rituals
“The King’s Official Mistress”
- Welcome to France!
@Barbie Blues There was NO position of "Official Mistress".
@@fan2jnrc There was, there were official rules the mistress had to follow and there were rooms specifically for the holder of the title, just above the King's quarters (or below I forget haha)
@@fan2jnrc are you serious? There was an absolute position for the king's mistress and she had more pull then any other woman at court, generally including the queen..marie antoinette had so much pull at court because her husband had no mistress...these women led some of the most interesting lives in history.
Delila Sloan the mistress generally had more pull than the queen? why, because everybody assumed that she who shags the king had more power over him than she who births the king's kids?
@@Ass_of_Amalek Normally wives were selected for political alliances so no love was involved, mistresses were chosen by the king himself and sometimes remained friends after the sexual aspect was over (like madam de pompadour)
Now whos opinion do you trust more? A foreign princess who will still have loyalties to her own country or your girlfriend who does not interfere politically? (Some did but many did not).
The priest rebuked the kings mistress because she had scandalized all France with her adultery but the king was cool. Fascinating story. Just subscribed to both channels.
Who said the King was cool? The mistress actively sought repentance, which was denied since she was still living a publicly sinful life. Nowhere does it state the King sought repentance.
@@Luigiawesome13 the king was cool
I've just found out she's my ancestor through my grandmother on my father's side
That’s awesome
U even kinda look alike...
Cool👍❤️
VintageGlaze so true they resemble each other a lot 😂
Your so full of shit........ Yeah right.......... Im batman i just found out the earth is flat too i swear....
Realistically... she probably didn’t do any of this. This is just the account of jealous women and superstitious men.
Chronocentric morality doesn't work. It was a completely different era, a completely different time where people were completely different.
She did all that. Maybe not to the extent she was accused of, but yes she did partake in Black Masses.
Desperate people do desperate things.
So they really just kept naming everybody Louis 🤔
Also, I know men are relieved they don't have to do the stupid duel thing anymore
The French court has bin a long tail of scandals and horrible gossip, and the French kings were almost drowning in women, because specially the French kings were very strong leaders, nobody dared to confront.
It must have bin a difficult time for poor and rich, because the population was living under a very sharp heal, thats why everything went bananas during the French revolution, where people simply had it for good....
i think most courts were like that at that time. the king (or in some cases, the queen) was always above standard norms and often had open extramarital sexual relationships....... i think it was actually kind of expected.
That's how they portrayed her in the TV show "Versailles"
That was a good show
Yay looks like I found something new to watch!^^
Versailles was a great representation of Louis life I thought. I wish they would have continued into Louis the fifteenths reign with Madame depompador and his sister mistresses before her and of course dubarry..and then Into Louis the sixteenth and Marie Antoinette and even the revolution and when Napoleon stayed at Versailles ..Josephine had Marie Antoinettes old rooms and she said they were haunted by Marie Antoinette wanting her out of there ..
That king Louis IV sure had 1980’s hair metal hairdo.
She said that to save herself for sure, the old woman I mean. I reckon it was all vicious rumour.
That's exactly what I was thinking.
Dnt be so naïve
I think you're right rumors are often told by women who are trying to compete with said person or a man who can't win her affection.
Also since she was high status was probably spread to soil her chances of advancement
@A. E. Harrison He died for all Our sins mate!
Her actions do not match the accusations. Sounds like jealousy.
It's funny that a lot of the names black women give they're sons actually belong to other origins like the french german italian etc
Some of that was because of racism , some USA Black people gave Hispanic names to especially to boys in the 50s to disguise their race. Hispanics were abused a little less than Black people were. French names were popular too but that was a 50s fad .
@@dancingnature That is a *very* astute observation!
And so ironic that some white people; who don’t know names origins, make fun of those names.
I'm female and no man is worth all this
Lol, you'd be surprised how vicious women also are when they see a threat. Especially if they saw another woman who is more beautiful and most favoured among them all. Sure men act in a perverted way as usual but women who see other women as a threat would viciously destroy you physically and mentally. So stop glorifying women as if we are saints.
@@stephanielim5544 I know they are and they all your best friend too, my little sister had these as friends too. that hurt me so much she would never believe me she thought I wanted her trash. and they were just that she only had one decent guy and when she found out he was she rid herself of him except the kid only for child suppost
@@stephanielim5544 and why do you think women act that way? You think it would happen if we lived in a vacuum of just us? Probably but to a way lesser extent. Men are the ones who come up with the (damn near impossible) standards all women are supposed to live up to. The toxicity between women that ensues is avoidable but not altogether unexpected in these circumstances.
@@SmartStart24 as a woman we need to take responsibility of our own actions and stop blaming men. You lot always said that we are independent and strong even without men for husbands, so why should we bother of how high mens standards are when they don't even force their standards on us? (And same goes for the men) And by doing that you would willingly destroy another woman's life? Instead of justifying this toxicity why not tell our sisters to grow up and be the strong women that we are claiming to be?
Human, no human is worth all that. Male female is irrelevant. We’re all just people.
Poor woman. Any time a powerful woman was blessed with beauty, charm, and wit, she was accused of being a witch and executed. Sigh.
Oh yes, what a wonder that a woman who's been tortured would just so happen to mention the name of an unpopular public figure. All things considered, I bet everything was a made up scandal used to ruin an influential female figure such as the case of Catherine the Great. Idk what they should expect of Louis and Francoise if they weren't allowed to choose their partners. Most marriages of the day were arranged, so they were simply making the best of a screwed up situation
Forgotten Lives a lovely change with History Profiles narrating in this video. Wow! He did pronounce those French names well, I will be completely tongue-tied. 🤪 I love the all the content you publish, never a dull video. 💯💯
Excuse me but as a French person, pronunciation was awful...
Great video content indeed, but you clearly don't speak French...
@@enlilw-l2 Yes, gave me a headache. Better if he didn't try so hard to "sound French". Anyway, it's a free planet and I'm not French. 😊
@@chicawhappa Of course it's a free planet, but when you make a French history documentary you should at least learn how to pronounce what you're talking about if you want to sound french. Or pronounce these names with your native language accent, it would have been better.
It sounds like he's trying to speak Italian to me, we don't roll R's like that 🤔
The French pronunciations were physically painful. Would have been better to just Anglicize them, instead of butchering every third word.
Every time he said “Montespan” an Angel gets its wings! 😫
ding ding ding ding
Sounds like the poor lady was pretty and popular (especially with the men) and was therefore slandered by the cattier elements at court. Either that, or it was a fun convent where she was schooled!
Bro , how many times you gotta say “Montespa?!”
We get it , you studied French In college and now you wanna flex 💪🏼
I suggest watching a series called VERSAILLES.
You can stream it. Her character and the actress playing her is super cool.
Is this on Netflix??
@@donnawalker2107 yes it is
9:40 I’m sorry, but are we all just glazing over the fact that Montespan’s disgruntled husband rejoined the army, kidnapped a girl, and attacked people with a gang of his dudes? I am going to need some elaboration
After listening to her biography, she actually sounds like a very kind person - definitely not someone that can engage in human sacrifice and such!
Or like someone guilty of doing horrible things so she tried to counterbalance it by doing good deeds. Like Jimmy Savile.
From what I read from French historians who studied the Affair of the Poisons, Catherine Monvoisin did not give the name of Madame de Montestpan. Once she was executed, her daughter, who was terrified by her, started giving names to La Reynie and his men, among which Madame de Montespan's.
From what I gathered reading about the affair of poisons was that many of Catherine Monvoisin’s clientele were women of the bourgeois class in abusive marriages that wanted freedom from their husbands. However, France was mostly Catholic and divorces were rarely granted. I may not agree with Catherine’s methods but I understand the desperate situation that some of these women were including madame de Montespan using aphrodisiacs to avoid losing the king’s favor coz it meant having no power and becoming irrelevant.
@@juliie007 Yes, I agree with your sentiment. I have studied royalty and aristocracy quite extensively and I’m convinced it was more dangerous to be a part of the aristocracy than it was to be a peasant in a lot of instances. The stuff they did to each other was mind blowing!!
@Ms Bliss I’m just talking about how treacherous the aristocracy were to each other. It was unreal! Yeah, they definitely led the high life but you could be beheaded at any minute or worse because someone higher up didn’t like the look of you. Also, god help the women being married off as pawns. Crazy. And, say you’re a lady in court, you gotta do whatever a higher up, like a duchess, says to do. No matter what! Like you’re a child and she’s your mother. Just seemed like pure insanity and absolutely fascinating to me!
@Ms Bliss She didn’t kill any babies. Black masses were invented fantasies of priests to scare the populace into piety.
@Ms Bliss this sounds so Intriguing where can I read more about this ??? And seems like a lot of people don’t realize how the occult has always existed among the elite society !!
Given that she was the King's "mistress" so to speak she was living a very scandalous life but I'm sure she lived a very interesting life as well...
Hardly scandalous, as in France it was pretty much an official possition
I am convinced that things were exaggerated, being the great back ect granddaughter of the Montespan I do not think that she is at the origin of everything but rather that the others had an interest to make it disappear
(Je suis française)
Doesn't really sound like the "dark life" more like the unfounded rumors.
Dude you said Montespan way too much
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He said it perfectly. ♾♾♾♾♾♾♾♾
I doubt you are Chris.
@@Agapy8888 he said it 6 million times in ten minutes
We'll get to that in a minute.
Well the video IS about her.
After all the information we now know about her, I find it highly unlikely she was actually a Satanist. My thought is... Hard to be a lady who is a player in the 17th century, just like today. When a woman is beautiful , intelligent and a charmer, there is always going to be people who wanna throw shade on her. And even if she did anything really awful, sounds like she certainly strived to make up for it! Thank you for such an intriguing story!!!
Beautifully put. I agree with your surmisal. From an Ossie 👇💜🙃
@@cousinsister69 Hi thanks! And blessings from Seattle, USA! 💖🌷👼
Omg thank u so much I've read so much about Madame de Montespan and ur like my favorite channel thx so much!
Thanks for this vid. Always thought it odd how she isn't more well known. All other documentaries on her are in French.
Giiiiiirl if you have to do all that for his attention... just move on ....
You're talking about the attention of a king = Absolute power and unbelieveable wealth.
@@catherinehenry2291 thats absolutely true.. I mean people do it for a simple peasant and why shouldn’t they do it for the King himself
Wealth does not last as you can see. Neither does power. So she did all of that for a moments power?
Well done History Profiles for the superb narration. Many thanks. Fascinating video & story. Cheers!
I love these vids. You are a genius. The music in the beginning, the way you do this is exellence
I think I’d admit to anything if they tortured me! It’s never been a reliable way to arrive at the truth , has it? And yet, it’s possibly still used today. So sad. Thank you 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
Yeah, they truly lost me on the whole "She's a Satanist" thing once they talked about the baby sacrificing bit.
Yeah, sacrificing babies is a basic human right. Back then, people weren’t as politically correct as now; baby sacrifice above one’s naked body was seen by the nobility as one of life’s little pleasures.
@@nightshadegatito no
That noble woman should have been canonized by the Catholic Church as a penitent. She started out a deeply religious girl, left the Faith only to return to Christ ever more forcefully. I salute this noble soul. Though she abandoned GOD, GOD did not abandon her; such is GOD'S love for us GOD'S way word children.
She was smart and talented. In a time when women were property. If you have not experienced this do not judge her. Look out your window right now and see how women are treated. Times that by a thousand and you might get an idea of how women were treated in those times.
Dang, a whole lot of scandalous, romantic royal drama went down for the Madame and glad her life ended on a
Positive note.
Thank you FLives for this great video! Loved the pictures and background music. Amazing narration from History Profiles. Thank you Ollie!
Thanks as always!!
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Good morning FLives! You are very welcome! Thank you!
I’ve got two things:
1.) Probably a lie so they could have an excuse to toss her off.
2.) In the show Versailles, which I know is dramatized for plot, she got him through her charisma and planning. She didn’t turn to the satanism until the end of their relationship when she thought she would lose him.
I dont wanna mess up the perfect number of comments(666) but this needs to be said. "Devil Worship" is NOT the same thing as Satanism, lol. The "devil" doesnt exist, it's a man-made concept created by the Christian church...
Wow, women went through more to become Mistresses than they did to become wives
Omg I wonder who made up this child sacrifice this story sounds like bs this sounds like people were jealous of her.
I am actually glad I found this channel, it is exactly what I wanted to watch on RUclips !
I just have one constructive comment to make: try to learn the actual pronunciation of the names, because it really is hard to follow what you are saying if, like I do, somebody who’s watching concentrates on how these names are actually pronounced.
The sensation is that of playing a guitar while missing a string, it just isn’t right 🙌🏼
A native French speaker in the comments section, Sachae Forest, was complimenting him on his pronunciations. If you're a native French speaker, then please give good reason to refute that compliment.
@@ladyraven3418 I’m not a French native, I’m actually an Italian who studied French and got the Baccalaureate degree. I’m just saying that there are some mispronounced names interfering with the general rythm of the narration, so let’s just chill ✌🏻
Why all the side chicks be crazyyy tho Lmaooo
Monogamy for men is a new concept for 'the west'. It was never expected of nobility and with some royal courts having titles for official mistresses infidelity was encouraged. As long as the dalliances didnt have any negative political or economic repercussions it was more than accepted. I quietly hope women got as much freedom even if it was in secret, but I dont think so
@@mdstanton1813 You do know that only rich men had harrems. A lot of poor men died without a woman back then. Monogamy benefits men, not woman!
@@leilo330 I said nobility and royalty quite clearly. It was accepted there were different standards between the classes as society was very stratified
That's interesting but the pronunciation wasn't good at all...
The whole thing was lost to me when he said that she fell in love with her husband...as if this was of any consequence for nobles marriages back then.