Started way back with the Pronger injury, truly believe that was our year... Letting Jagr and Carle go to FA for room to sign Weber, then not getting him. Signing Bryz and trading Bob. Trading JVR's best years for Luke Schenns worst. The Andrew MacDonald trade/ sign Drafting Patrick over Petterson/ Makar Those are the ones missed that are the biggest to me. Never getting that top line defenceman for G was the biggest let down... Niskanen showed how badly we needed that defenceman, but we only had it for one season. Love the flyers, miss G, don't trade Hart on Konecny, those are the only good things in the last 10yrs
I've been a big Flyers for thirty years and have seen lots of players come and go. The last decade has been painful and the problems with the organization run deep. Ever since Ed Snider passed away, Comcast and their corporate policies have allowed this team to rot in place.
I am the opposite, I just became a fan this year in January (I'm from WI and Ive always loved the logo/colors and don't know crap about hockey). Can you explain more about this?
@@midwestaarron so pretty much once the owner died the team went to sh!t and Comcast now runs it which doing a terrible job now fans not wanting to go want them to sell the team it's a sh!tshow ngl you picked a bad time to become a flyer fan but we do accept you with open arms 😂
@@midwestaarron I've been watching this team for over 20 years. If THIS year is the year you became a fan, I promise you it will only get better. These past 2-3 years have been the worst on-ice product since I've been alive.
I believe the turning point in the franchise was trading Richards and Carter and signing Bryz. Flyers lost to the cup winning Pens in 2009, lost in the 2010 finals, and lost to the cup winning Bruins in 2011, they were competitive and right there and building something as a team (think of how long the Capitals had to lose before getting their cup)....to me, that was the core that had the best chance of winning in the next 2-4 years, Richards, Carter, Giroux, JVR, Briere, Hartnell, Timonen, Pronger, Coburn, Carle, Bobrovsky, then they blew it up and got stuck in the land of mediocrity for the next 10 years. Carter and Richards go on to win 2 cups in the next 3 years and Bob goes on to win 2 Vezina trophies. You could argue that the Flyers won the Richards/Carter trades in terms of the value they received for those two, but in terms of where they were as a roster at that point in time, I believe keeping those guys and having Bob as your starter would've given them the best chance to win in the proceeding years.
Yep. Now they're shopping hart. Wtf? I love Briere as a player but I'm not sure about him being gm. This 3way trade for a no name goalie bs? He traded our best dman. We NEED defense or we'll continue to the road to ruin. 1st major move....bust
@@oddity4all2see They're not shopping Hart. That's a huge rumor that's been debunked more than once. They aren't going to trade a top 10 goalie when they don't even have a solid backup. They are shopping for a second goalie. Maybe people are reading that as them swapping Hart out but that's not the case. They are looking for a number 2 goalie to pair with Hart. Take some of the load off of him. If you look at him numbers from last season, he was very good. Especially with the fact that he played probably more games than any other goalie. Their D was the issue. They know that. People are panicking like they are collapsing or something. They are fine. Forester is going to have his rookie year this season and I'm sure he'll be ever better than he was in the 9 games he played. He had, I believe 8 points in those games. Some of which were highlight reel goals and passes. They you have Cutter who is supposed to be the next big thing. We'll see about that though. Couturier (arguably the best 2-way guy in the NHL), Atkinson (30 goal scorer), Konecny (30-40+ goal scorer), Hart (top ten goalie), Forester (poised to give Connon Beddard a run for his money), Laughton (20 goal scorer maybe while being one of the best on the kill), DeAngelo (one of the highest scoring D men), Provorov (still a beaut), Brink (we'll see), Tippett (20-30 goal scorer), and so on. They all almost all the talent they need. They just need a few pieces and they're golden. A backup goalie and a solid 1st pair D man and maybe another playmaker. They have the shooters now.
@darthollpheist1156 I watched an interview with briere and he was asked about hart. His reply was something like not really but, everything is open.. I don't want hart to go. He has a year left on his contract. He probably wants to go to a better team and I wouldn't blame him. I'm ok with the 3way trade. I don't know about the goalie. Errson is pretty solid and I think he will give hart a run for his money. Hart was the best player on our team last season. I'm definitely excited for our prospects and for October. I'm on the fence with Tony d. I like him as a player. I don't like him as a person. He's definitely a locker room cancer and his ego is a bit much. Typical south Philly tough guy bs. And yr absolutely right about us needing defense. We've been rocky in that department for a while now. Our special teams need a HUGE overhaul. I hate that people are blaming niskenin leaving for the downfall. He's one guy. I'm excited and nervous for the rest of the off season.
@@darthollpheist1156 Provorov is a product of the brainwashing from Putin (you know, the guy whose government arrested Flyers goalie prospect Ivan Fedotov for not going into the insane meat grinder that is the unjust war in Ukraine) and religious fundamentalism. Tony D is a locker room cancer, racist asshole, and shit defenseman, and not as good as Ghost, who Flyers brass literally paid to get rid of. Yeah, what *legends* these two dummies are, Jesus Christ.
I could write a book on the last 10 years as my beloved Flyers have fallen from grace. Where to begin? I’ll come back cause there is so many layers to how this management has made the team irrelevant in this city.
The only other organization that reminds of the Flyers nowadays are the Pittsburgh Pirates. For a long period of time the Pirates were a very well regarded franchise with a great history. Since the late 70s though they've pretty much been nonexistent.
Love Tortorella being here, and optimistic about what Briere can do. The Flyers do have some really nice young pieces, especially Tippett, so alongside Farabee, Frost, Foerster, etc hopefully a nucleus develops that the team build around. I still think Couturier can be a major part of what we do going forward as well
You are so right about Niskenen as a paring with Provie as that top pairing for the Covid year when he retired it killed us. Also they never replaced him the next year with someone of his caliber.
The trade that got me was for Risto. Gave up a ton of draft capital, then a ridiculous contract to a very average blueliner. Now he's virtually untradeable. Haye's deal was another gaffe. At any rate, hopefully Briere can get the ship righted to stay afloat. What's happened to Ellis and Sean C made a big difference. Provorov and Hayes almost certain to go. Hart stays, unless they get an incredible offer. Get that Comcast clown Scott out of the picture, as well as the 3 "wise men" (Clarke, Barber, and Holmgren)
The Risto, Ghost, DeAngelo combo is befuddling to say the least. I believe Scott has retired & from everything the local press is saying Scott & his replacement won't be deferring to the 3 "Wise" men anymore. (God willing) Although I think Holmgren did an okay job as GM. Some gaffes but some decent moves
@@rubberneckinc.8937 Yeah, Scott finally put out to pasture. DeAngelo is another weird move by Fletcher. Another almost untradeable deal, but term is short, so that's a good thing. Flyers need Sean C back fully healthy. Hopefully that happens for this fall.
@@michaelkirkpatrick7483 I hope Couts is able to come back fully healthy. Backs are tricky with regular people let alone athletes. I love Couts' game. Heck I loved his game before he started scoring. If he's himself he is the type of player that could lead them out of this darkness. His presence alone moves all the centers back one or to wing. I think he's obviously the next Captain as well.
I still fully believe if covid never hit 2019-2020 could have been our year. That team was firing on all cylinders and was arguably the best team in the league at the break. Such a shame the way they fell apart.
That team was built for the regular season, and I believe they would have lost early in the playoffs had Covid hit or not, The 2019-20 Flyers had 4 solid lines so they could wear down teams in an 82 game season. They had so many wins that year where they dominated in the 3rd period because of that. The playoffs are a different animal as there are no back to back games so you only need 3 lines. The Flyers got exposed in the playoffs that year because they didn’t have a legit sniper, nor a legit #1 D. You don’t win a Stanley Cup without a scorer or a #1 D in the NHL. The irony is the 2009-10 was totally built for the playoffs and not the regular season and that’s why they went to the Cup as a 7th seed.
@@darthollpheist1156 If they were so good in 2019-20 (before Covid) why did the team fall off the cliff and miss the playoffs the next 3 years? Or why didn’t they atleast make the playoffs in 2021 with pretty much the same team?
@@chrisolivo6591 Because they weren't the same team. Not even close.That's why. Not because they lacked the skill. They were THE best team in the NHL that season. But, they got screwed by COVID and refs. The season following, they didn't have some of the key players they needed.
Thx for posting this. This club has so many problems on so many levels…which originated in the Front Office, run by the 3 Kings. Every ex-Flyer who is infesting this club (ex. In Drafting, Player Development, Scouting, etc) need to go. As long as the Kings are ‘in the mix’…NOTHING is changing with this team. Briere will soon find out he doesn’t have the authority to do anything, with those 3 making their presence known ‘behind the scenes’ Time to part ways, guys…for the betterment of the team.
As a Pens fan obviously I hate the Flyers. But I do have friends from college who are huge Flyer fans and I've always said hockey season seems so much more fun when the Flyers are relevant. That said my Pens have maybe 2 more years left of relevancy before the walls cave in. We are gonna pay dearly imo from 16 years of major successes.
From the outside looking in, I firmly believe the firing of Hextall was the beginning. He was building the franchise from the inside out. The Phantoms were always near the top in the division/conference/AHL in Hex's tenure. Those win-now fans turned on him and the team. Now, Briere has one hell of a problem to fix. Something tells me Philly will be taking its lumps for a few more years before the ship is righted. I'm a Caps fan. Same of the latter logic goes for them too.
@@pumpkinking5174 this is new to me. Oh, wait. He was the one to trade Jeff Carter, right? I did hear grumbling about it. I live in Pennsylvania. So that grumbling was quite loud.
I think there are several key reasons why, but I will just highlight a few - Keith Allen leaving in ‘83 - Lindbergh’s death - Lindros’ refusal to stay healthy - Clarke scaring off Lindros and getting nothing for him - No. 2 pick drafting woes, specifically Pitkanen and JVR - Inability to get superstar talent post-Lindros era (early 2000s to 2010, when the Flyers actually had a cup window) - Pronger’s eye injury - Snider’s death - 2017 Draft - Clarke, Barber and Homer still being with the team
They actually have some seriously good players in the pipeline. Frost is starting to look like a top tier player. His hands and sick and he's not even close to his prime. Coots is still just as good but he's been injured. When he's back, he'll be huge. Same with Atkinson. But Tippett, Konecny, Laghton, Cates, Brink, Zamula, Foerster, and so on, are all guys that are only getting better. Hart as been good. Sanheim, Provorov, DeAngelo, York, Seeler, and Risto are a good 6 to have with Zamula and Braun in there as well. Everyone is panicking when they still have plenty of skill. Injuries is what hurt them the most. Foerster is looking like a top tier player already. And they still have their other drafts that are supposedly really good players like Cutter Gauthier. And who knows what will happen with JVR and Hayes. I think they'll both be gone. They should've went after Johnny Hockey. The guy said he wanted to be a Flyer and they didn't even try to get him. They went after DeAngelo (who has been really good) instead. Makes no sense.
I’m sorry buddy but you have to let go of that unreasonable optimism even if it’s admirable. The Flyers need top end talent that can only be acquired by drafting at the top. They have some good young pieces who I hope they keep. But it will be minimum 5 years before we see any sunshine in Flyers land and that’s IF we do an excellent job drafting
@@Zenkka Yeah, they are literally in the process of doing just that. Guys like Frost and Foerster.... Konecny, Brink, York, etc. are all possibly superstars someday. Couturier is already the best 2-way forward in the NHL (along with guys like Bergeron). Atkinson is a 25-30 goal scorer..... They played this whole season with AHL players. Some of which have thrived. Tippett is going to be top end talent. Konecny was blowing the NHL up until he got injured.... twice. Hart is still a top 10 goalie. And, none of the people I named have even hit their prime yet. Flyers are going nowhere but up. It might take time, but they'll be Cup contenders within a few years. 3, maybe 4.
@@darthollpheist1156 All fanbases tend to overrate their young players. I’d suggest to withhold your expectations. There are always more German Rubtsovs than Travis Konecnys
@@Zenkka Konecny is a stud. He was the NHLs hottest player before he was injured. Then, he came back, cooled off, got hot again, then got injured again. He's a top 6 on any team in the NHL. Most teams, he's top 3 easily. And their prospects, I'm not overrating them. I didn't even bring up most of them. Just the ones that are hot right now. Like I said, Foester.... His NHL career.... 8 games...... points?...... 7. Including a PP assist, he's a plus 2, 20% shooting percentage.......... Tippett never really was able to develop in Florida because he didn't get the ice time due to them having other star power. Now, he's hot and just had his first hat-trick. Cates, not a scoring forward but he's still one of the best puck controllers in the NHL. Right up there with any star player. He's just not a scorer. Great on the PK though. Laughton is having a career season. Because of Laughton and Konecny The Flyers had the most shorties until Konecny got hurt again. They have 12 shorties this season. Maybe 13. Yeah, most prospects don't make it. It's a numbers game. But, what I'm saying is, the guys I'm talking about are already panning out. And Cutter Gauthier is supposed to be the real deal. York is already a top pair to top 4 D man. Frost has had a great season. I'm not bringing up Allison or any other the others. Just the ones doing stuff NOW (besides Cutter). Everyone knows their pipeline is stacked. It's not a homer thing. It's an objective Flyers thing, right now. All those trades for drafts are starting to pay off.
Thanks buddy I’m a big fan and Fletcher was a very big problem. And yes, like Tortorella say they must subtract before adding. I was happy with Deslauriers move because Zack MacEwen wasn’t making other teams think twice about bullying them. I really hope they keep Brandon Lemieux. I think he found his home. They need to move a few pieces in order to be a contender again, but they’re not that far away from it. You can see it in the way they have played some games under Torts. The injury bug didn’t help. But that’s not why they suck so bad. Thank you for this video.
The franchise is in horrendous shape. Unfortunately Chuckles failed tenure will haunt this franchise for several more years unless Danny can jetison a major contract or two (Hayes and Sanheim), Coots and Atkinson can return healthy and they have young guys like Brink, Ersson and Forester be every day players....and impactful, next season.. Might even need a new young Dman and sign a GOOD dman.
One move essentially set this team on a path to mediocrity and that was losing the draft lottery of 2007. For the first time in their history they finished dead last in the NHL meaning by all rights they should have gotten the #1 pick in the draft but the NHL had instituted a draft lottery beginning with this season and, of course, they lost out to the Blackhawks who ended up drafting Patrick Kane while the Flyers ended up with James Van Riemsdyk. JVR is a decent player but he's no Kane. Had the Flyers have gotten Kane, a line with he at RW, Mike Richards at C, and Simon Gagne at LW would have been fricken scary. That said, at least I remember the Cup years.
Briere is hedging with "rebuild." If the Flyers can land a legit 1D, swap Hayes for a better fit with Torts and, crucially, stay healthy they will make the playoffs next year.
@@bobbygoodman2875 You think management simply determines the future with a magic wand? They will be as surprised as the fans when the Flyers make the playoffs next year (if my conditions hold).
@@clivemossmoon3611 I hope you are right Clive but seriously doubt it. Take a bit of time and examine all the holes on this Team. By any/every measure they are awful. AND they have the moronic Yosemite Sam behind the bench. He only knows one way and you only need 3 active brain cells to work it. A good coach works with what he has, whether there is a lot of skill or little. He's a dinosaur...and a dumb one at that. When a f%£@ing coach gets more headlines than the Team, you know your in trouble. This loud, crass, vulgar, shortass is an embarrassment on the Philly Organization and the League. I feel bad for the players, particularly Konecny and Tippet.
They need Boosh as their coach...torts is too burned out...they will be busting heads next yr...Hart has been playing great lately..he beat fuerry the other day...fluery has the most shootout wins!! He needs to come to philly!! Him an hart..alternating back an fourth..peace✌️🇺🇸🇬🇧🇺🇦🙌
We've all heard the allegations, innuendos, rumours and tittle-tattle. You don't expect an entire locker room to be into that sort of degeneracy but then you remember that they work and reside in Philadephia so then it all makes sense.
@@MrBeenus And there's more! The office building where I worked at the time was on the parade route and we got to hang out of the windows and see the parade go by after they won the cup! And naturally, who has a camera at work? I wish I did because I would still have the photos!
It’s too bad the Flyers probably won’t be getting the top pick this year. Bedard could be a franchise changing pick with all the other pieces they have. Flyers are an odd story though. Good video showing what has been going on.
Seeing Simmonds leave in 2019 then Voracek in 2021 then Giroux in 2022 were the main things that I think gradually led the flyers to a lot of growing pains
Just went to the game where they lost against the blues. My buddies and I were laughing at how bad they were. They could barely keep the puck at their end of the ice. It was like watching a kids game. Every pass was a total miss lol
I've been a fan my entire life. A rebuild should have began the minute Chris Pronger's career was finished. We still would have had the younger guys like Giroux, Simmonds, Schenn, etc. to build around going into their primes, but instead the Flyers mismanaged almost every facet within the organization. I was a fan of Hextall in the beginning of his tenure, but his refusal to fire Hakstol and correct his mistakes were paramount to his demise. Fletcher's history of mediocre results and horrible contracts followed him from Minnesota to Philadelphia. I don't have a lot of expectations for Briere or the Flyers currently. A rebuild is needed and has been needed for quite sometime.
The problem with the Flyers goes back decades because they're guilty of nepotism and never adapting to the modern game. Even the the average Flyer fan doesn't understand this. The year they made it to the finals in 2010 was a fluke. They haven't had an elite top line since The Legion of Doom Line in the 90's. They Flyers are unable to draft and develop talent and instead of realizing this, they make every coach they hire the scape goat. Schenn and Wayne Simmonds were never star players and JVR was a horrible signing. All their shortcomings have just finally caught up with them.
It'll be interesting to watch Michkov and Gauthier develop, they might be able to bring the Flyers back to relevance but my God are they a goalie graveyard - poor Carter Hart
There needs to be a culture shift in Philadelphia as many of the players seem to simply go through the motions, and accept that they’re a pack of losers. They often look like a group of youngsters halfheartedly chasing the puck, and simply chipping the puck in the general direction of a teammate as opposed to confidently making it known they’re ready to accept a pass, and the passer moving the puck with authority. Their practices need to incorporate repetitive passing drills in tight and uncomfortable circumstances. They simply turn the puck over too easily, and often.
The last draw for me was when Gritty waved the Pride Flag. I was no longer a Flyers fan since 74. The organization is absolutely destroyed from the inside and out. Just a train wreck.
Philly made a HUGE mistake with bob. Why for the love of God did we get rid of him? I love hart. He's good. We keep letting decent goalies go. Sandstrom can't keep his stick in his hand, what makes them think he'll be able to hold onto the puck. Errson reminds me of Bob and I believe hart will be his backup if briere doesn't let him go. We'll see. Also, I don't understand why people keep saying that niskenin leaving is what killed us. Taking on a few duds is what killed us. Bringing veterans in on their last legs. Ellis. He played 1 game? Tony d, say no more. Locker room cancer. Atkinson? We'll see. This one almost hurts the worst...Patrick. we could've had hischier. We picked a dud that year.
The biggest fork in the eye for the team and the fans was keeping fraud gruyere on the team and wearing the C for at least 5 years more than they should have. He sucked out all of the competitive nature out of that locker room. We deserved better. That NTC was pure caca from the get go. And they never even got close to replacing poor Chris Pronger after his injury. He held a lot of hope for the future and that evaporated in that freak moment. I saw them win both cups. I know what We The Fans think that Flyers hockey should be and NO, I am not talking about the Broad Street Bullies. It is about winning or at least being competitive. Gotta get it back or this team might as well relocate.
they still haven't adjusted to the salary cap, they almost never sync up the home grown talent with the free agents and they can't buy their way out of trouble the way they very effectively did for like 2 decades
I’m a Flyers fan from Sweden, this clubs management can’t find the right players if their life depended on it. From the likes of Lindros, Renberg, Leclair, Forsberg etc. to trying to get excited about a player like Ristolainen? Better get 1 of either Bedard, Michkov or Leo Carlsson this years draft, 3 generational talents in the same draft!
Well, you can’t say they didn’t manage to get something right concerning their rivalry with the Pens; somehow they installed sleeper agent Hextall as GM
The Flyers have watched young upstarts like the Panthers and Lightning and a new franchise like the Golden Knights along with the last place Devils two years ago ,do the right things and win cups and move into the higher playoffs and your trying to figure it out…really
The flyers will never die!!! With Danny b they are already doing better!! The whole team is popping on all cylinders!! Next yr they will be smashing heads!! Broad street bully❤✌️🇺🇸🇬🇧🇺🇦
Mr. Sheppard… please don’t be fooled by this current Flyers surge. They are chasing ‘Fool’s Gold’.. and have nothing to play for. They’re just trying to finish ‘strong’…a ‘red herring’ if there ever was one. Danny B (another ex-Flyer… one of many who held this position): I’m not thrilled that another ex-Flyer is in this position… but I’m willing to give him the chance to see what he could do. Firing Chuck (without approval from the three Kings) is a step in the right direction… but someone of a higher authority needs to take charge and do more to make the Flyers an Elite team. Next up: the 3 Kings. See ya! Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
losing pronged and not getting weber set us back then firing hextall so we could stay in the 80s style hockey was the next major set back, hexy wanted to get fast and young clark was like nah
I remember when chuck was the GM, and any social media post I found from the flyers, the comments were all FIRE CHUCK! FIRE CHUCK!, or #FIREFLETCHER, etc. It was the funniest thing, but good thing it worked and hes gone.
Never understood the Carter/Richards/Bob trades. F'n blew up a still very competitive team! And the Kings go and win 2 Cups! Overall, the Flyers of the last decade have been hideous. Coaches, Gm's, in and out, the culture rot of both the organ-I-zation and the NHL, once, proud to be bad ass, now a dull version of some Swedish Jr league squad, the despicable removal of Kate Smith from the organ-I-zation to placate a few Woke freaks, even getting rid of the Ice Angels during the stoppages at the Center, and it goes on. Once proud, successful, feared and a must watch from '74-'12 is no more...........
I’m presuming your last name is not ‘Hextall’. Don’t let him run your team into the ground. He had a ‘hand’ in our demise…Stop him before things get worse.
@@bloke_19xx33 Pens fan too. Hextall's gonna be a huge scapegoat cause there's nothing he can do as Father Time is chipping away at our superstar core. No team can recover quickly from losing a Crosby, Malkin and Letang in such a short stretch which is what is gonna happen. Pens are gonna pay dearly I'm afraid for 17 glorious seasons.
@@joeheid2776 Mr. Heid, I see what you're saying about the Pens losing their Core...but the Pens have so much talent up and down their roster (I'm not saying that they're on the same level as the Pens' Top '3') that they'll still be a competitive team while they're in 'transition'...that's where you have to be careful with what Hextall may/will do. The Pens draft/develop players that are ready to play at a moment's notice. What the Pens are doing is working very effectively. It's if/when they start drafting 'Projects' (an area where the Flyers know all too well), where your team might hit some roadblocks. I would never give Hextall the opportunity to re-vamp the Pens' roster (if it needs to be...but i don't think you're looking at a major overhaul, JMO). However, with Hextall, one never knows. Good luck in the Playoffs. Cheers.
@@pumpkinking5174 I always hear the threat of relocation whenever the Pens are on a ‘downturn’. That’s all we heard circa 2005 when the Pens threatened to move to KC (?). Then…by a stroke of luck…Mario rose to the occasion, and put together a group of investors to keep the team in Pittsburgh. Then (#2)…the hockey gods smiled down on Pittsburgh, which allowed them to draft Crosby (with Malkin being drafted in 2004). In other words… claims about the Pens relocating anytime soon are completely exaggerated. I truly can’t see it happening. Being a Flyers fan… I wish we had their problems (no one here would notice if the Flyers either folded or relocated).
Hart will be in his prime by the time the rebuild is done, goalies hit prime at a older age then a skater. For sure trade TK . Keep Hart. If Forester , cutter hit and we draft a couple D man , I give the team 5 years before it's good
it started with the summer of 2011. i love Bryzgalov and wanted him...but we overpaid him and got rid of a bunch of some great two way players in exchange for rookies and youngins (Schenn, Simmonds, voracek) who were still adjusting to the speed of the NHL. plop on that a coach who forechecked us hard for offensive (and was suddenly mismatched with his roster) and Pronger's career ending injury (which hid all of the glaring defensive holes) and you have a team 1 win from a stanley cup the year before blown up for no reason.
@@gary6754 ?? not sure where you got "dinosaur viewpoint" from or why your attacking me. The team sucks, has no talent, has not drafted well, has made POOR decisions trading and signing FAs. Team clearly needs new ownership and a rebuild and to build a good team through the draft. Get over yourself.
How did it not? What, we had 1 positive season in a rebuild year? We have been awful for over a decade. Just because we decided to stop being mediocre doesn't mean this didn't age well.
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@@aryanshah1529 yes and i admit i was up and down with hart but i figured out why because all the pressure was on hart because sandstrum was playing terrible and ersson was still developing. now if ersson is the real deal next year with hart as well i think this team will make the playoffs.
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Thanks for the rundown. My buddy is a flyers fan and I have to hold him while he cries sometimes.
I need a buddy like you!
Try being a Leaf's fan, pal.
At least the Leafs MAKE IT to the playoffs every year
He cries a lot doesn't he? I know because as a Flyers fan I do too.
Put your finger in his butt.
Started way back with the Pronger injury, truly believe that was our year...
Letting Jagr and Carle go to FA for room to sign Weber, then not getting him.
Signing Bryz and trading Bob.
Trading JVR's best years for Luke Schenns worst.
The Andrew MacDonald trade/ sign
Drafting Patrick over Petterson/ Makar
Those are the ones missed that are the biggest to me.
Never getting that top line defenceman for G was the biggest let down...
Niskanen showed how badly we needed that defenceman, but we only had it for one season.
Love the flyers, miss G, don't trade Hart on Konecny, those are the only good things in the last 10yrs
Honestly the bob, bryz shit is what made me stop. Not just the deal, but the way it was done.
I realized it when Lindros got his Scott Stevens concussion
I've been a big Flyers for thirty years and have seen lots of players come and go. The last decade has been painful and the problems with the organization run deep. Ever since Ed Snider passed away, Comcast and their corporate policies have allowed this team to rot in place.
I am the opposite, I just became a fan this year in January (I'm from WI and Ive always loved the logo/colors and don't know crap about hockey).
Can you explain more about this?
@@midwestaarron so pretty much once the owner died the team went to sh!t and Comcast now runs it which doing a terrible job now fans not wanting to go want them to sell the team it's a sh!tshow ngl you picked a bad time to become a flyer fan but we do accept you with open arms 😂
@@midwestaarron I've been watching this team for over 20 years. If THIS year is the year you became a fan, I promise you it will only get better. These past 2-3 years have been the worst on-ice product since I've been alive.
I believe the turning point in the franchise was trading Richards and Carter and signing Bryz. Flyers lost to the cup winning Pens in 2009, lost in the 2010 finals, and lost to the cup winning Bruins in 2011, they were competitive and right there and building something as a team (think of how long the Capitals had to lose before getting their cup)....to me, that was the core that had the best chance of winning in the next 2-4 years, Richards, Carter, Giroux, JVR, Briere, Hartnell, Timonen, Pronger, Coburn, Carle, Bobrovsky, then they blew it up and got stuck in the land of mediocrity for the next 10 years. Carter and Richards go on to win 2 cups in the next 3 years and Bob goes on to win 2 Vezina trophies.
You could argue that the Flyers won the Richards/Carter trades in terms of the value they received for those two, but in terms of where they were as a roster at that point in time, I believe keeping those guys and having Bob as your starter would've given them the best chance to win in the proceeding years.
Yep. Now they're shopping hart. Wtf? I love Briere as a player but I'm not sure about him being gm. This 3way trade for a no name goalie bs? He traded our best dman. We NEED defense or we'll continue to the road to ruin. 1st major move....bust
@@oddity4all2see They're not shopping Hart. That's a huge rumor that's been debunked more than once. They aren't going to trade a top 10 goalie when they don't even have a solid backup. They are shopping for a second goalie. Maybe people are reading that as them swapping Hart out but that's not the case. They are looking for a number 2 goalie to pair with Hart. Take some of the load off of him.
If you look at him numbers from last season, he was very good. Especially with the fact that he played probably more games than any other goalie. Their D was the issue. They know that.
People are panicking like they are collapsing or something. They are fine.
Forester is going to have his rookie year this season and I'm sure he'll be ever better than he was in the 9 games he played. He had, I believe 8 points in those games. Some of which were highlight reel goals and passes. They you have Cutter who is supposed to be the next big thing. We'll see about that though. Couturier (arguably the best 2-way guy in the NHL), Atkinson (30 goal scorer), Konecny (30-40+ goal scorer), Hart (top ten goalie), Forester (poised to give Connon Beddard a run for his money), Laughton (20 goal scorer maybe while being one of the best on the kill), DeAngelo (one of the highest scoring D men), Provorov (still a beaut), Brink (we'll see), Tippett (20-30 goal scorer), and so on. They all almost all the talent they need. They just need a few pieces and they're golden. A backup goalie and a solid 1st pair D man and maybe another playmaker. They have the shooters now.
@darthollpheist1156 I watched an interview with briere and he was asked about hart. His reply was something like not really but, everything is open.. I don't want hart to go. He has a year left on his contract. He probably wants to go to a better team and I wouldn't blame him. I'm ok with the 3way trade. I don't know about the goalie. Errson is pretty solid and I think he will give hart a run for his money. Hart was the best player on our team last season. I'm definitely excited for our prospects and for October. I'm on the fence with Tony d. I like him as a player. I don't like him as a person. He's definitely a locker room cancer and his ego is a bit much. Typical south Philly tough guy bs. And yr absolutely right about us needing defense. We've been rocky in that department for a while now. Our special teams need a HUGE overhaul. I hate that people are blaming niskenin leaving for the downfall. He's one guy. I'm excited and nervous for the rest of the off season.
@@oddity4all2see I love Tony D as a person. Him and Provorov are both against the woke, rainbow mafia... and I love it.
@@darthollpheist1156 Provorov is a product of the brainwashing from Putin (you know, the guy whose government arrested Flyers goalie prospect Ivan Fedotov for not going into the insane meat grinder that is the unjust war in Ukraine) and religious fundamentalism. Tony D is a locker room cancer, racist asshole, and shit defenseman, and not as good as Ghost, who Flyers brass literally paid to get rid of. Yeah, what *legends* these two dummies are, Jesus Christ.
I could write a book on the last 10 years as my beloved Flyers have fallen from grace. Where to begin? I’ll come back cause there is so many layers to how this management has made the team irrelevant in this city.
The only other organization that reminds of the Flyers nowadays are the Pittsburgh Pirates. For a long period of time the Pirates were a very well regarded franchise with a great history. Since the late 70s though they've pretty much been nonexistent.
Where to begin? Probably when Ed Snider stopped running the show.
Love Tortorella being here, and optimistic about what Briere can do. The Flyers do have some really nice young pieces, especially Tippett, so alongside Farabee, Frost, Foerster, etc hopefully a nucleus develops that the team build around. I still think Couturier can be a major part of what we do going forward as well
You are so right about Niskenen as a paring with Provie as that top pairing for the Covid year when he retired it killed us. Also they never replaced him the next year with someone of his caliber.
The trade that got me was for Risto. Gave up a ton of draft capital, then a ridiculous contract to a very average blueliner. Now he's virtually untradeable. Haye's deal was another gaffe. At any rate, hopefully Briere can get the ship righted to stay afloat. What's happened to Ellis and Sean C made a big difference. Provorov and Hayes almost certain to go. Hart stays, unless they get an incredible offer. Get that Comcast clown Scott out of the picture, as well as the 3 "wise men" (Clarke, Barber, and Holmgren)
The Risto, Ghost, DeAngelo combo is befuddling to say the least. I believe Scott has retired & from everything the local press is saying Scott & his replacement won't be deferring to the 3 "Wise" men anymore. (God willing) Although I think Holmgren did an okay job as GM. Some gaffes but some decent moves
@@rubberneckinc.8937 Yeah, Scott finally put out to pasture. DeAngelo is another weird move by Fletcher. Another almost untradeable deal, but term is short, so that's a good thing. Flyers need Sean C back fully healthy. Hopefully that happens for this fall.
@@michaelkirkpatrick7483 I hope Couts is able to come back fully healthy. Backs are tricky with regular people let alone athletes. I love Couts' game. Heck I loved his game before he started scoring. If he's himself he is the type of player that could lead them out of this darkness. His presence alone moves all the centers back one or to wing. I think he's obviously the next Captain as well.
It seems like the main reason the Holmgren loved Fletch is because they both believe that draft picks are worthless.
Well done with the video editing and the overall run-down of the recent history!
I still fully believe if covid never hit 2019-2020 could have been our year. That team was firing on all cylinders and was arguably the best team in the league at the break. Such a shame the way they fell apart.
I have been saying that the last 3 years to I really believe we could have been in the Stanley cup
That team was built for the regular season, and I believe they would have lost early in the playoffs had Covid hit or not, The 2019-20 Flyers had 4 solid lines so they could wear down teams in an 82 game season. They had so many wins that year where they dominated in the 3rd period because of that. The playoffs are a different animal as there are no back to back games so you only need 3 lines. The Flyers got exposed in the playoffs that year because they didn’t have a legit sniper, nor a legit #1 D. You don’t win a Stanley Cup without a scorer or a #1 D in the NHL. The irony is the 2009-10 was totally built for the playoffs and not the regular season and that’s why they went to the Cup as a 7th seed.
@@chrisolivo6591 You have no idea what you're talking about.
@@darthollpheist1156 If they were so good in 2019-20 (before Covid) why did the team fall off the cliff and miss the playoffs the next 3 years? Or why didn’t they atleast make the playoffs in 2021 with pretty much the same team?
@@chrisolivo6591 Because they weren't the same team. Not even close.That's why. Not because they lacked the skill. They were THE best team in the NHL that season. But, they got screwed by COVID and refs. The season following, they didn't have some of the key players they needed.
Thx for posting this. This club has so many problems on so many levels…which originated in the Front Office, run by the 3 Kings.
Every ex-Flyer who is infesting this club (ex. In Drafting, Player Development, Scouting, etc) need to go.
As long as the Kings are ‘in the mix’…NOTHING is changing with this team.
Briere will soon find out he doesn’t have the authority to do anything, with those 3 making their presence known ‘behind the scenes’
Time to part ways, guys…for the betterment of the team.
As a Pens fan obviously I hate the Flyers. But I do have friends from college who are huge Flyer fans and I've always said hockey season seems so much more fun when the Flyers are relevant. That said my Pens have maybe 2 more years left of relevancy before the walls cave in. We are gonna pay dearly imo from 16 years of major successes.
From the outside looking in, I firmly believe the firing of Hextall was the beginning.
He was building the franchise from the inside out.
The Phantoms were always near the top in the division/conference/AHL in Hex's tenure.
Those win-now fans turned on him and the team.
Now, Briere has one hell of a problem to fix.
Something tells me Philly will be taking its lumps for a few more years before the ship is righted.
I'm a Caps fan.
Same of the latter logic goes for them too.
Hextall should be set on fire.
He did decades long damage to the Flyers.
@@pumpkinking5174 this is new to me.
Oh, wait.
He was the one to trade Jeff Carter, right?
I did hear grumbling about it.
I live in Pennsylvania.
So that grumbling was quite loud.
I think there are several key reasons why, but I will just highlight a few
- Keith Allen leaving in ‘83
- Lindbergh’s death
- Lindros’ refusal to stay healthy
- Clarke scaring off Lindros and getting nothing for him
- No. 2 pick drafting woes, specifically Pitkanen and JVR
- Inability to get superstar talent post-Lindros era (early 2000s to 2010, when the Flyers actually had a cup window)
- Pronger’s eye injury
- Snider’s death
- 2017 Draft
- Clarke, Barber and Homer still being with the team
They actually have some seriously good players in the pipeline. Frost is starting to look like a top tier player. His hands and sick and he's not even close to his prime. Coots is still just as good but he's been injured. When he's back, he'll be huge. Same with Atkinson. But Tippett, Konecny, Laghton, Cates, Brink, Zamula, Foerster, and so on, are all guys that are only getting better. Hart as been good. Sanheim, Provorov, DeAngelo, York, Seeler, and Risto are a good 6 to have with Zamula and Braun in there as well.
Everyone is panicking when they still have plenty of skill. Injuries is what hurt them the most. Foerster is looking like a top tier player already. And they still have their other drafts that are supposedly really good players like Cutter Gauthier.
And who knows what will happen with JVR and Hayes. I think they'll both be gone. They should've went after Johnny Hockey. The guy said he wanted to be a Flyer and they didn't even try to get him. They went after DeAngelo (who has been really good) instead. Makes no sense.
I’m sorry buddy but you have to let go of that unreasonable optimism even if it’s admirable. The Flyers need top end talent that can only be acquired by drafting at the top. They have some good young pieces who I hope they keep. But it will be minimum 5 years before we see any sunshine in Flyers land and that’s IF we do an excellent job drafting
@@Zenkka Yeah, they are literally in the process of doing just that. Guys like Frost and Foerster.... Konecny, Brink, York, etc. are all possibly superstars someday. Couturier is already the best 2-way forward in the NHL (along with guys like Bergeron). Atkinson is a 25-30 goal scorer..... They played this whole season with AHL players. Some of which have thrived. Tippett is going to be top end talent. Konecny was blowing the NHL up until he got injured.... twice. Hart is still a top 10 goalie. And, none of the people I named have even hit their prime yet.
Flyers are going nowhere but up. It might take time, but they'll be Cup contenders within a few years. 3, maybe 4.
@@darthollpheist1156 All fanbases tend to overrate their young players. I’d suggest to withhold your expectations. There are always more German Rubtsovs than Travis Konecnys
@@Zenkka Konecny is a stud. He was the NHLs hottest player before he was injured. Then, he came back, cooled off, got hot again, then got injured again.
He's a top 6 on any team in the NHL. Most teams, he's top 3 easily. And their prospects, I'm not overrating them. I didn't even bring up most of them. Just the ones that are hot right now. Like I said, Foester.... His NHL career.... 8 games...... points?...... 7. Including a PP assist, he's a plus 2, 20% shooting percentage.......... Tippett never really was able to develop in Florida because he didn't get the ice time due to them having other star power. Now, he's hot and just had his first hat-trick. Cates, not a scoring forward but he's still one of the best puck controllers in the NHL. Right up there with any star player. He's just not a scorer. Great on the PK though. Laughton is having a career season. Because of Laughton and Konecny The Flyers had the most shorties until Konecny got hurt again. They have 12 shorties this season. Maybe 13.
Yeah, most prospects don't make it. It's a numbers game. But, what I'm saying is, the guys I'm talking about are already panning out. And Cutter Gauthier is supposed to be the real deal. York is already a top pair to top 4 D man. Frost has had a great season. I'm not bringing up Allison or any other the others. Just the ones doing stuff NOW (besides Cutter).
Everyone knows their pipeline is stacked. It's not a homer thing. It's an objective Flyers thing, right now. All those trades for drafts are starting to pay off.
@@darthollpheist1156 that is a lot of mid prospects ngl
Thanks buddy I’m a big fan and Fletcher was a very big problem. And yes, like Tortorella say they must subtract before adding. I was happy with Deslauriers move because Zack MacEwen wasn’t making other teams think twice about bullying them. I really hope they keep Brandon Lemieux. I think he found his home. They need to move a few pieces in order to be a contender again, but they’re not that far away from it. You can see it in the way they have played some games under Torts. The injury bug didn’t help. But that’s not why they suck so bad. Thank you for this video.
Great work!
The franchise is in horrendous shape. Unfortunately Chuckles failed tenure will haunt this franchise for several more years unless Danny can jetison a major contract or two (Hayes and Sanheim), Coots and Atkinson can return healthy and they have young guys like Brink, Ersson and Forester be every day players....and impactful, next season.. Might even need a new young Dman and sign a GOOD dman.
Torts and Briere are gonna drag this team to relevance if it’s the last thing they do. Full front office cleanup is necessary.
Full front office cleanup is coming. The next few months will be monumental in a good way.
Huh ? I can not hear what you say. The volume is low.
As a flyers fan my self this years late season collapse feels like a curse, and that curse has been struck ever since we won the stanley cup.
Should have never let Jagr go...him and Claude played so well together...
I have older (and newer) gripes but that one really pissed me off...
One move essentially set this team on a path to mediocrity and that was losing the draft lottery of 2007. For the first time in their history they finished dead last in the NHL meaning by all rights they should have gotten the #1 pick in the draft but the NHL had instituted a draft lottery beginning with this season and, of course, they lost out to the Blackhawks who ended up drafting Patrick Kane while the Flyers ended up with James Van Riemsdyk. JVR is a decent player but he's no Kane. Had the Flyers have gotten Kane, a line with he at RW, Mike Richards at C, and Simon Gagne at LW would have been fricken scary. That said, at least I remember the Cup years.
Briere is hedging with "rebuild." If the Flyers can land a legit 1D, swap Hayes for a better fit with Torts and, crucially, stay healthy they will make the playoffs next year.
Lol no we won’t. We’re 4 years out from playoff contention
When "rebuild" is uttered, the Organization expects fans to watch crap for years.
@@bobbygoodman2875
You think management simply determines the future with a magic wand? They will be as surprised as the fans when the Flyers make the playoffs next year (if my conditions hold).
@@clivemossmoon3611 I hope you are right Clive but seriously doubt it. Take a bit of time and examine all the holes on this Team. By any/every measure they are awful. AND they have the moronic Yosemite Sam behind the bench. He only knows one way and you only need 3 active brain cells to work it. A good coach works with what he has, whether there is a lot of skill or little. He's a dinosaur...and a dumb one at that. When a f%£@ing coach gets more headlines than the Team, you know your in trouble. This loud, crass, vulgar, shortass is an embarrassment on the Philly Organization and the League. I feel bad for the players, particularly Konecny and Tippet.
They need Boosh as their coach...torts is too burned out...they will be busting heads next yr...Hart has been playing great lately..he beat fuerry the other day...fluery has the most shootout wins!! He needs to come to philly!! Him an hart..alternating back an fourth..peace✌️🇺🇸🇬🇧🇺🇦🙌
We've all heard the allegations, innuendos, rumours and tittle-tattle. You don't expect an entire locker room to be into that sort of degeneracy but then you remember that they work and reside in Philadephia so then it all makes sense.
My very first hockey game was the Flyers during their first Stanley Cup run. Bobby Clarke and Bernie Parent were the stars at that time.
You are so lucky holy shit
@@MrBeenus Lucky but old 😆
@@vegasrenie You lived alot of Flyers fans' dreams and witnessed the Broad Street Bullies in their hayday. Old lucky bastard
@@MrBeenus And there's more! The office building where I worked at the time was on the parade route and we got to hang out of the windows and see the parade go by after they won the cup! And naturally, who has a camera at work? I wish I did because I would still have the photos!
@@vegasrenie That's amazing. I'm so happy that you got to witness history. Fly high brother. Go Flyers!!!!!
It’s too bad the Flyers probably won’t be getting the top pick this year. Bedard could be a franchise changing pick with all the other pieces they have. Flyers are an odd story though. Good video showing what has been going on.
Look no further than the Carter and Richards trade. While they looked good on paper they would ultimately backfire. Losing Prongs didn’t help either
Seeing Simmonds leave in 2019 then Voracek in 2021 then Giroux in 2022 were the main things that I think gradually led the flyers to a lot of growing pains
Spot on, everything you said except, Konectny is not a top 6 forward on any team. It is sad hes the only thing our Flyers have at the moment.
Bro you should have way more subscribers, keep up the good work
Just went to the game where they lost against the blues. My buddies and I were laughing at how bad they were. They could barely keep the puck at their end of the ice. It was like watching a kids game. Every pass was a total miss lol
It should be noted that Ron Hextall inherited a team with no prospects and poor asset management. So, I think we screwed up letting him go.
Great summary!
I've been a fan my entire life. A rebuild should have began the minute Chris Pronger's career was finished. We still would have had the younger guys like Giroux, Simmonds, Schenn, etc. to build around going into their primes, but instead the Flyers mismanaged almost every facet within the organization. I was a fan of Hextall in the beginning of his tenure, but his refusal to fire Hakstol and correct his mistakes were paramount to his demise. Fletcher's history of mediocre results and horrible contracts followed him from Minnesota to Philadelphia. I don't have a lot of expectations for Briere or the Flyers currently. A rebuild is needed and has been needed for quite sometime.
The problem with the Flyers goes back decades because they're guilty of nepotism and never adapting to the modern game. Even the the average Flyer fan doesn't understand this. The year they made it to the finals in 2010 was a fluke. They haven't had an elite top line since The Legion of Doom Line in the 90's. They Flyers are unable to draft and develop talent and instead of realizing this, they make every coach they hire the scape goat. Schenn and Wayne Simmonds were never star players and JVR was a horrible signing. All their shortcomings have just finally caught up with them.
Why didn’t Briere pay for that poor girl’s wheelchair??
It'll be interesting to watch Michkov and Gauthier develop, they might be able to bring the Flyers back to relevance but my God are they a goalie graveyard - poor Carter Hart
The night Pele Lindbergh died changed things.
Hextall would not have got his day in the sun.
There needs to be a culture shift in Philadelphia as many of the players seem to simply go through the motions, and accept that they’re a pack of losers.
They often look like a group of youngsters halfheartedly chasing the puck, and simply chipping the puck in the general direction of a teammate as opposed to confidently making it known they’re ready to accept a pass, and the passer moving the puck with authority.
Their practices need to incorporate repetitive passing drills in tight and uncomfortable circumstances. They simply turn the puck over too easily, and often.
Until Holmer and Clarke are removed this organization is going nowhere
The last draw for me was when Gritty waved the Pride Flag. I was no longer a Flyers fan since 74. The organization is absolutely destroyed from the inside and out. Just a train wreck.
Man your audio is too low
Man turn your volume up
Philly made a HUGE mistake with bob. Why for the love of God did we get rid of him? I love hart. He's good. We keep letting decent goalies go. Sandstrom can't keep his stick in his hand, what makes them think he'll be able to hold onto the puck. Errson reminds me of Bob and I believe hart will be his backup if briere doesn't let him go. We'll see. Also, I don't understand why people keep saying that niskenin leaving is what killed us. Taking on a few duds is what killed us. Bringing veterans in on their last legs. Ellis. He played 1 game? Tony d, say no more. Locker room cancer. Atkinson? We'll see. This one almost hurts the worst...Patrick. we could've had hischier. We picked a dud that year.
The biggest fork in the eye for the team and the fans was keeping fraud gruyere on the team and wearing the C for at least 5 years more than they should have. He sucked out all of the competitive nature out of that locker room. We deserved better. That NTC was pure caca from the get go. And they never even got close to replacing poor Chris Pronger after his injury. He held a lot of hope for the future and that evaporated in that freak moment. I saw them win both cups. I know what We The Fans think that Flyers hockey should be and NO, I am not talking about the Broad Street Bullies. It is about winning or at least being competitive. Gotta get it back or this team might as well relocate.
they still haven't adjusted to the salary cap, they almost never sync up the home grown talent with the free agents and they can't buy their way out of trouble the way they very effectively did for like 2 decades
The Flyers are run like a small market team. When they find success, usually accidentally, the team ownership/Management finds a way to sabotage it.
Sounds like the Leafs lol.
Not gonna happen now with Danny b at gm
How long does it take for the Flyers to become a playoff team and then head to the Stanley Cup Final?
I’m a Flyers fan from Sweden, this clubs management can’t find the right players if their life depended on it.
From the likes of Lindros, Renberg, Leclair, Forsberg etc. to trying to get excited about a player like Ristolainen?
Better get 1 of either Bedard, Michkov or Leo Carlsson this years draft, 3 generational talents in the same draft!
the Flyers dont value skill and talent, thats the first problem
At the very least, Carter Hart and Travis konecny have both improved this season
As a wild fan, I knew Philly was doomed as soon as they hired fletcher.
The 12-year contracts?
Trading Mike Richards & Jeff Carter was a successful retool. Simmonds, Voracek, and others. But this video really explains why they became mediocre.
Well, you can’t say they didn’t manage to get something right concerning their rivalry with the Pens; somehow they installed sleeper agent Hextall as GM
It started with removing Ron hextall.we will not have any good young players left,as usual 😮
Their problems can be summed up in one word....
Comcast
Flyers went WOKE and they removed the Kate Smith statue.
What a crappy captain Giroux was. Countless losing streaks and his gloves were cemented on unless he was grabbing a cop’s rear end.
The Flyers have watched young upstarts like the Panthers and Lightning and a new franchise like the Golden Knights along with the last place Devils two years ago ,do the right things and win cups and move into the higher playoffs and your trying to figure it out…really
The flyers will never die!!! With Danny b they are already doing better!! The whole team is popping on all cylinders!! Next yr they will be smashing heads!! Broad street bully❤✌️🇺🇸🇬🇧🇺🇦
Mr. Sheppard… please don’t be fooled by this current Flyers surge.
They are chasing ‘Fool’s Gold’.. and have nothing to play for. They’re just trying to finish ‘strong’…a ‘red herring’ if there ever was one.
Danny B (another ex-Flyer… one of many who held this position): I’m not thrilled that another ex-Flyer is in this position… but I’m willing to give him the chance to see what he could do.
Firing Chuck (without approval from the three Kings) is a step in the right direction… but someone of a higher authority needs to take charge and do more to make the Flyers an Elite team.
Next up: the 3 Kings. See ya! Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
They ain’t shit lmao biased moron
How drunk were you when you wrote this
losing pronged and not getting weber set us back then firing hextall so we could stay in the 80s style hockey was the next major set back, hexy wanted to get fast and young clark was like nah
So with this all said, are we 4 yrs away from 4 yrs away yet?
I remember when chuck was the GM, and any social media post I found from the flyers, the comments were all FIRE CHUCK! FIRE CHUCK!, or #FIREFLETCHER, etc. It was the funniest thing, but good thing it worked and hes gone.
Never understood the Carter/Richards/Bob trades. F'n blew up a still very competitive team! And the Kings go and win 2 Cups!
Overall, the Flyers of the last decade have been hideous.
Coaches, Gm's, in and out, the culture rot of both the organ-I-zation and the NHL, once, proud to be bad ass, now a dull version of some Swedish Jr league squad, the despicable removal of Kate Smith from the organ-I-zation to placate a few Woke freaks, even getting rid of the Ice Angels during the stoppages at the Center, and it goes on.
Once proud, successful, feared and a must watch from '74-'12 is no more...........
I only wonder how the Flyers are going to celebrate their 50th Anniversary of winning their first Stanley Cup in 1974.
I think my dad is the only Flyers fan with confidence lol
Ron Hextall and Chuck Fletcher.
Firing hextall for fucking Fletcher was just just wrong after what he did with the fixing the cap
Matt really started the recent downfall when he retired
As a Pittsburgh native this video is so beautiful
I’m presuming your last name is not ‘Hextall’. Don’t let him run your team into the ground.
He had a ‘hand’ in our demise…Stop him before things get worse.
@@bloke_19xx33 Pens fan too. Hextall's gonna be a huge scapegoat cause there's nothing he can do as Father Time is chipping away at our superstar core. No team can recover quickly from losing a Crosby, Malkin and Letang in such a short stretch which is what is gonna happen. Pens are gonna pay dearly I'm afraid for 17 glorious seasons.
@@joeheid2776 Mr. Heid, I see what you're saying about the Pens losing their Core...but the Pens have so much talent up and down their roster (I'm not saying that they're on the same level as the Pens' Top '3') that they'll still be a competitive team while they're in 'transition'...that's where you have to be careful with what Hextall may/will do.
The Pens draft/develop players that are ready to play at a moment's notice. What the Pens are doing is working very effectively. It's if/when they start drafting 'Projects' (an area where the Flyers know all too well), where your team might hit some roadblocks.
I would never give Hextall the opportunity to re-vamp the Pens' roster (if it needs to be...but i don't think you're looking at a major overhaul, JMO). However, with Hextall, one never knows.
Good luck in the Playoffs. Cheers.
You'll be golfing with Cindy by Friday.
It's over in Pittsburgh.
Empty area and relocation upcoming.
@@pumpkinking5174 I always hear the threat of relocation whenever the Pens are on a ‘downturn’. That’s all we heard circa 2005 when the Pens threatened to move to KC (?).
Then…by a stroke of luck…Mario rose to the occasion, and put together a group of investors to keep the team in Pittsburgh.
Then (#2)…the hockey gods smiled down on Pittsburgh, which allowed them to draft Crosby (with Malkin being drafted in 2004).
In other words… claims about the Pens relocating anytime soon are completely exaggerated. I truly can’t see it happening.
Being a Flyers fan… I wish we had their problems (no one here would notice if the Flyers either folded or relocated).
Don’t forget Fletcher fumbling Gaudreau😎
The only reason it hasn't been all down the whole time Is because of Eric lindros
I donno things are looking good especially with some of the young guys it was time for a rebuild
The penguins are next :/ (as a pens fan
low volume
try neutral zone puck possession
Giroux is overrated ….never saw him as a franchise player
And of course now they’re winning and are blowing their lottery chances
That is a pretty good assessment. The Giroux timeline was so incompetent and flawed.
If Briere wants a rebuild, but DOES NOT trade Hart, Konecny, or both, then he clearly does not understand what rebuild means.
Hart will be in his prime by the time the rebuild is done, goalies hit prime at a older age then a skater. For sure trade TK . Keep Hart. If Forester , cutter hit and we draft a couple D man , I give the team 5 years before it's good
The flyers should have traded up to get marner
Bedard
The flyers rebuild should have been started in 2018
Fletcher was a retard tho
I give you one name PAUL HOLMGREN
it started with the summer of 2011. i love Bryzgalov and wanted him...but we overpaid him and got rid of a bunch of some great two way players in exchange for rookies and youngins (Schenn, Simmonds, voracek) who were still adjusting to the speed of the NHL. plop on that a coach who forechecked us hard for offensive (and was suddenly mismatched with his roster) and Pronger's career ending injury (which hid all of the glaring defensive holes) and you have a team 1 win from a stanley cup the year before blown up for no reason.
We suck and we're gonna suck for a long time, fletcher ruined the team
Once Ed died, the team lost its fire.
lol, its more like they dont have talent and skill.
unfortunately your dinosaur viewpoint is shared by senior management
@@gary6754 ?? not sure where you got "dinosaur viewpoint" from or why your attacking me. The team sucks, has no talent, has not drafted well, has made POOR decisions trading and signing FAs. Team clearly needs new ownership and a rebuild and to build a good team through the draft.
Get over yourself.
Let’s hire more ex flyers,that should do it…
Suck in’ since 75.
this didnt age well
They did indeed get there sooner rather than later lol. I'm thrilled they're good again
How did it not? What, we had 1 positive season in a rebuild year? We have been awful for over a decade. Just because we decided to stop being mediocre doesn't mean this didn't age well.
Have you ever seen the flyers win the Cup 👏👏Have you ever seen the flyers win the Cup 👏👏Oh they’ve done a lot of crying, but unless you’re close to dying. Then you’ve never seen the flyers win the Cup! LGP🖤💛🥅🏒🐧🤟
could not happen to a better team
Hextall is doing the same thing to Pitt that he did to the flyers
Cackling
1975
I'm sorry, but the editing on this video is terrible. We can't hear you.
Carter Hart needs to go, once they get a goalie they will be fine.
He is why we have half of our wins this year
You're not a very smart man are ya Rob? jfc have you watched a single game this year?
@@aryanshah1529 yes and i admit i was up and down with hart but i figured out why because all the pressure was on hart because sandstrum was playing terrible and ersson was still developing. now if ersson is the real deal next year with hart as well i think this team will make the playoffs.
As a habs fan we’ll take him.
Ron Hextall is the worst GM. How did he even have jobs at that level is baffling!
"Star forward" Brayden Schenn. Lol ok buddy.
He didn't fully hit his potential til he went to St Louis. He's been damn good over there.