The Story of Archimonde [Lore]
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- Last week we did a video on Kil'jaeden. This week we take a look at his brother Archimonde to find out what he's been up to!
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So, Malfurion spammed roots with no diminishing returns on Archimonde. Archimonde got so pissed that he rage quit and logged out.
It was before Malfurion was nerfed.
No dumbass, his name is FUCKING MALFURION and he summoned 5 million ghosts to kick Archimonde right in his dick.
this has not aged well
>Illidan sacrifices his soul to destroy Tichondrius and saves the forest;
>Malfurion and Tyrande: "UNFORGIVABLE! HOW COULD YOU! YOU'RE BANISHED"
>Malfurion sacrifices the immortality of his entire race, burns a sacred tree gifted by the Dragon Aspects, and (seemingly from the cinematic towards the end) BURNS DOWN HALF THE FUCKIN FOREST
>Malfurion: "I saved the world so it's worth it. I'm so awesome"
wat
alwayzbored114 i kno right?
alwayzbored114 To be fair, Malfurion also stopped Sargeras and the entire Burning Legion from invading which would have been the end of Azeroth as a whole...
Kracker5000 and illidan didn't?
TWICE
Honestly, I think Illidan's banishment was reasonable, and Malfurion was not that bad.
What Malfurion said when he and Tyrande approached was "Foul demon! What have you done to my brother?"
Are they really that bad? Although Malfurion didn't like his brother, he still cared about him.
What demon's power can do and how terrible this power is, nearly all night elves know that. Even Illidan used that power to beat the Legion, the night elves are still afraid of the demons. No one can guarantee that Illidan will be different from the Legion, unless he proved himself was loyal to the night elf society. Unfortunately, he had betrayed and hurt his own people about 2 times. It is difficult for him to do that.
The twin's actions are both right. It's just they have different thought and value.
About sacrificing the World Tree's power, if Malfurion didn't do that, then how can he defeat Archimonde?
Ascalon I'm saying that both Illidan and Malfurion did what had to be done to save the ones around them, but Illidan was the only one to be punished. Illidan sacrificed himself to save the forest and fight the Legion, Malfurion sacrificed something from everyone of his entire Race. Illidan's actions were much more selfless, yet he gets condemned for them
I didn't destroy any worlds.
I simply liberated them of their existence.
Get owned by wisp!
It's the tree humper yo
Archimonde must be a beast at making sand castles!
So much wow players doesn't even realize that the best of the game is not gameplay - but lore.
The only 2 reasons i play WOW is they have the best lore in the world ( my opinion ) :P and some of the best pvp based games ever fun, exiting, stressful, sometimes even pailful but fun :D
And suddenly - Pandarens.
(inb4 shitstorm)
Benjamin van Bosch so true!
Jacek Mariański well pandarens existed even before wow... they just introduced them wrong and childish. Still Sha,Garrosh and corrupt story ain't bad.
***** I think there was no way to introduce Pandarens in any other way, but considering them for an expansion after terrifyingly bad Cataclysm was especially a bad idea.
Realy impressiv that you nearly complete forsaw the hole 6.2 Raid in this Vid. ^^
Malfurius :D
Nobbel87 you are amazing:D You know it what will happen!
Nobbel87 Vote Nobbel for new Prophet!
ThatGuy777 Go to Nixxiom's Channel and look for something like "Next Expansion". Believe me, you'll have a blast ;)
Malfurius He said there was a window for Archimonde to return after his death in our reality. an alternate timeline Archimonde do'esnt really qualifies.
Now that would even be the opposite, he died three times from players hands (WC, BC, WoD) meaning that they will probably make him either dead for all, or unable to leave the nether for a very long time.
i feel like illidan was the one betrayed. he did what he had to do to save azeroth, and the only thing his brother and his true love did was to exile and deny him!
Well... actually the problem is (i just realised that it is 10 months old but anyways :D) that he himself during his lust for power KILLED many of his own people even tho he didn't have to.... If he kills Lord Blackforest and much more Night elves in battle only beacuse he wants to look great in front of Rhonin... that makes him kinda the bad one :)
He killed a lot of night elves, joined the legion and destroyed parts of the forest in his path. I love Illidan but mans far af from innocent
How did a bunch of wisps kill archimonde?
@Master-John117 kind of like the earth's atmosphere killed the invasion of evil alien robots In that tom Cruise movie?
The whole concept of the Legion and its Failure can be explained in a few concepts.
Deployment capacity:
The Burning legion is only powerful in the Twisting Nether, the power they might project in worlds is dependent on how many leaders/forces they can land on the planet.
Portals limit the size and power of beings that can pass:
Its like the size of a door, As a Creature, you can either enter the door or not, if only a smal door can be opened to Azeroth, only a small and weaker form or Avatar of the creature can get through.(Archimonde, Kil'Jaeden and Avatar of Sargeras were such)
Hence we can defeat the Demon Lords as the power they spawn with in Azeroth is dependent on the size of the portal.
This technically limits the Legion from getting huge Generals, Demon Lords or Numbers of Armies of Felguards/Hunters etc get through in a short span of time.
Manipulation:
The Legion devices manipulation of the Big players on the world to either Assist a summon , or to Weaken the planet(both were used in the 3rd war).
its like a dam full of water unable to get through a pipe/portal, pipe blocked by Heroic defenders of their respective worlds!
anyone else on a nobbel87 lorevids binge?
Its worse than a Netflix binge. Cant. Stop. Watching. O_o
Hell yeah I am ...Everyday
Solemnine currently yes! I've seen most of them already anyway but still
This video was made in 2014, and I feel like I have missed out on a lot of lore up until now. Currently binging in 2019.
Nope
i feel sorry for illidan. :S He sacrifaces his own soul to save home, but malfurion just ''fuck u man'' :S
he didn´t do it to save the NE. He did it for the power that the skull would grant him. Illidan is more greddy than generous.
I concur with Raul.... Arthas, though sacrificed his soul, and everything to stop the very thing he became king of. Than again Arthas was warned many times to turn around, as oppose to Illidan that was just told a great source of demonic power lol
Raul Gonçalves Not necessarily. Yeah Illidan loves power but part of the reason why he wanted power is to get accepted by his people. He was more miss guided then anything, thinking that if he gets power and banishes demons on his own then he would get praise and acceptance for it, especially from Malfurion and Tyrande. But it all backfired on him and as you can hear from his monologue at the start of the Warcraft 3 Expansion he felt betrayed by them cause they banished him when he was only trying to help.
you know the big bit of ocean between the western and eastern continents? that was all land once. Both continents were one land mass.
All that EXPLODED and sunk into the sea when the well of eternity detonated, destroying dozens of the most major night elf cities and killing millions upon millions of sentient beings.
And the blame is put on magic. and what does illidan do? he makes another quasi-well of eternity.
you can see why the night elves would be so extremely pissed.
He wanted the best for his people on the outside. it was his excuse to himself. But deep inside, there was always the hunger for magic.
Actually you are wrong and right at the same time. the well exploded, and sunked lot of landmass and riped the world apart. if u look at Azshara, the half circle in there, its there where the well USED to be.
Archimonde can't break Dalaran beams. #Dalaranwasaninsidejob
Fuck outta here
+Qwerty0791 lmfao
Qwerty0791 #khadgardiddalaran
So let me get this straight, illidan fills some vials from well of eternity so that if legion invades in the future, then the nightelves have a weapon to fight but instead he is sent to prison for 10,000 years. Lets just say for argument sake that it was right thing to punish him. Then centuries later legion comes back just like illidan expected but whatever, water under the bridge. And illidan is given early release so that he can save azeroth. Illidan finds a way to defeat the legion by sacrificing his soul and becoming a demon. He does that and what he gets? another banishment. Well in the future if illidan decides to start a 3rd faction count me in.
Right? So many people saying that Illidan is the only reason the Burning Legion invaded Azeroth in the first place, and that's why Illidan is a douche. Anyone care to explain his story a bit more?
you mean,water under the tree,Heh heh
***** I'm currently watching the whole playlist, I'm at the Lich King videos, and I saw the Ordering, but I still don't get why people would claim Illidan is a douche. I love his lore, his character, I started WoW during BC, so he was pretty much the first important character I saw (because of the trailer) and he was my first legendary in Hearthstone. And if I ever get back to WoW for Legion, then Night elf Demonhunter masterrace. #forillidan
Seeing how warcraft movie was a success globally, I really want them to explore illidan story line. I think they will become popular very easily if they stay true to the lore. Audience will feel his pain and will connect to illidan. Warcraft has potential to be bigger than Lord of the Rings if done correctly. With the budget of $160,000,000 it made $287,610,000, it was quite impressive given the bad reputation that video game movie has. I hope blizzard and Duncan can bring us worthy sequels!
Naga
Archimonde the Tree Humper.
Archimonde's tree humping is a bit over zealous
And you see all these other trees start to get jealous.
That actually rimed.
It's from a song by Nyhm.
An epic parody songwriter in WoW.
Really great videos.
Blizzard even made an npc is his honor in Everlook, Winterspring.
It's actually quite sad how Illidan was imprisoned like that, he could've stayed our ally if they hadn't.
Well, blame Malfurion for it, as Illidan may have felt betrayed by him, but never wanted war between him and his brother or war in general against his race. The Frozen Throne campaign shows this pretty clearly, as Illidan was due to his pact with Kil'Jaeden forced to stay away from his people.
However, I feel the Night elves could have helped both him and the Naga, even the blood elves and combined their forces to overcome the problems of those magic-addicted races and their master. Still am the opinion that neither Illidan nor Prince Kael'Thas are completely evil. Illidan's main problem was his hunger for power and becoming addicted to vile methods to reach these goals, while Kael simply was betrayed by the Alliance from the beginning of the Fall of Silvermoon, not being able to defeat the one, who destroyed his home land. Even feel for him way more sorry tbh, which is one of the reasons, why I slightly dislike the story arc around Sun Well. He really was just unlucky in his choices and the backfiring of many of Illidan's plans.
***** Yup. It's always sad to see heros turn evil for reasons that're (somewhat) not their own fault, even though it makes for great story arcs.
Red Sausage True indeed. Though I would prefer Kael'Thas rather as a leader over the blood elves than new created characters like Lor'Themar to be honest. As entertaining as boss fights might be in the MMORPG, they kind of destroy at some point for me the nostalgic feelings you had once for these guys during Warcraft3 campaigns.
***** Very true.
*****
I would say that Malfurion had taken Queen Azshara ultimate petition for power and betrayal of Azeroth for that goal to heart. It may had such an impact on his judgement, he had completely sworn off anything and anyone associated with that type of power.
The most powerful fighting force in all of Azeroth, is the character controlled NPCs.
In case you don't know, the "Hero" is the supreme commander of the Horde/Alliance coalition in Draenor.
Currently the "Hero" is considered at the same level of power as Lady Liandrin, Thrall and other important figures in the lore. Like I always said, It's only a matter of time till the "Heroes" become more powerful than Demi-gods and being actually capable of challenging Sargeras and even the fully unleashed Old Gods themselves.
Heroes are currently stronger than standing armies. The only actual enemy that realized this was the Lich King himself.
NPC = Non-player Character
So player controlled NPC's doesn't really make sense :D
Mark Hornby He means the character you play story-wise. In Draenor you're called general, but obviously there's not just one general because every player is called that by the NPC's.
That being said, I disagree. We're very powerful, but we've always needed massive amounts of help and other people to help us accomplish things. I can't remember a single thing we've actually done by ourselves. Even during raids, the NPC's always say "heroes" as in multiple.
Yeah, we are bunch of legendary adventurers. But individually our power is at the level of Sylvanas, Lady Liandrin, Thrall etc.
They way people adress you and they way people expect more from you than others is a pretty good example of this.
Also there are a few fights we done without help. Yog'Saron for example, almost every other General and even Deathwing. Most of the aspects just too a role of just sitting there while putting the bulk of the job on the Heroes.
Also the way that we have Varian and Vol'jin themselves Address you and accept your fighting prowess and skill as the most important thing in their offensives.
They didn't put anyone from the countless people more suitable for the job as General, they put us the PCs.
***** it only takes 40 of us to kill them tho. I guess u could day o bc we r raiding a city but no we are not that powerful. Due to game mechanics it is inconsitent like I think they are supposed to fight with us during some fights.
Game mechanics != Lore
Archimonde can basically kill any mortal ("hero") with 1 finger.
The well of eternity was created by the titans.
Illdans exile was uncalled for.
mannoroth must be pretty pissed already getting rekt so many times
08:34 " Night Elf Mohawk ? "
Illidan's voice was way better in warcraft 3. I miss it so much.
I have to disagree, the quote ''BLADES OF AZZINOTH!'' sounds so fucking badass with his new voice.
Well, the voice acter from WC3 did voice pandaren and Sha of Violence in MoP. I don't see how he could not voice Illidan again!
While it does sound pretty badass, I think he could have done it better with his old. His old voice suited his character better, it was cold and calm like his character. His new one just isn't right.
You are still amaze me with all the sketches you collected to go along with the WoW story lines.
damn illidian was a pretty cool character, why did blizz have to butcher his personality and make him a villain
They may be bringing him back!
as what? A zombie? That would be pretty odd. "hey there bud! Sorry we killed you mind helping us so we can brand you a traitor again after you save us all... again"
Magister Gir
looking at wod plot blizz can make up some really sketchy shit and have no issues with that
Actually it would have nothing to do with WoD It would connect the fact that Illidan absorbed so much Demonic energy that he himself is now part Demon. Thus killing him on our plane is useless and he can simply return himself from the Twisting Nether.
that's.... a far stretch idea imo. Yes he's "part" demon but I don't think they really go into the whole "part demons now go into the Twisting Nether". The only way I can really see this working is if Illidan is now more demonic than Nightelf and is struggling to make sure his demonic ways doesn't over power him to follow the burning legion. If we help him remove the demonic powers and what not I think that would be really cool idea in a future expansion or lore story but just him coming back like nothing happened, after we killed him, from the Twisting Nether that's a pretty dull affair then.
this video confirms that nobbel is an avatar of Chris Metzen (or Chris is an avatar for Nobbel)
Or that Nobbel IS Chris Metzen going by another name and voice
+Brandon Schemers *inset dramatic music*
I'm fairly sure that Metzen is the Archimonde to Nobbel's Kil'Jaeden. Metzen acts in the open, whereas Nobbel plots behind the scenes.
Love the little song at the beginning. It's like I'm getting to sit down to story time.
Thanks for the video man! Do you think you'll ever do the story of Arthas? I've read up on it, but it'd be cool to watch and I don't think you or DDguides have ever covered it (correct me if I'm wrong). Love the vids, keep it up! :D
I've got Arthas on the list, but his story is huge and not relevant to the current story.We'll do him! Just don't know when ^_^
Nobbel87 hey, april fools is coming up c: you thinking of making a joke video?
RiddleOfLightning That would kind of ruin it, wouldn't it...?
Nobbel87 Nobble I just want to as if you are ever going to do my three fav lore chars in wow Lor'themar Lord Godfry and General Nazgrim??
Play warcraft 3. trust me.
Nobbel calling endbosses since 2014.
Calling the last 3 bosses of the raid in this case lol. "Archimonde teaming up with Gul'dan and Mannoroth"! I can't tell if he has inside info or if Blizzard don't bother with creativity any more and just do whatever Nobbel tells them to. :-D
Once again, thank you so much Nobbel, this might be the last time I write here since I'm getting enlist to the IDF (Israel Defense Force), so I guess I'll miss a lot of lore videos which makes me a little sad inside, but sometime, somewhere, I'll find the time to watch your videos!
Thank you Nobbel !
Best of luck, stay safe!
Thank you :)
Good luck, travel safeley and return soon!
***** Thank you so much, wow slowly I'm getting really excited :D
So did you survive
"i have sacrficed my soul and bacically my life to destroy our enemy and help save the world"-illidan
"NO HOW COULD YOU, YOU FUCKING MONSTER!!!"-everyone
he is the hero people need now (legion) (;
I hope that when Warcraft III gets a movie adaptation, we'll get to see Dalaran being destroyed in full glory, not just a black screen.
Isnt the new movie a warcraft III movie?
No, it's based on the first game. But I hope they will eventually make a movie based on WC3, because IMO, it has the best story (i.e. Arthas)
No.
+Birsan Alex no it is warcraft 1
And this is why I side with Illidan... they spit on him when he went to hell and back to save his homeland from the legion. The in Outland we kill him just because he took Black Temple by force from the previous demon lord that occupied it.
Yeah Illidan was not a bad guy. Can not believe they made turkey elf to look like a big hero. When all he does is sleep and acts like a turkey.
doomblackdragon and dont forget, that they call him a Traitor, because he saved the world from the Burning Legion...
You guys forget that he tried to remake the well which braught the legion there in the first place
MrMGR1986 He did it as a double agent,he didn't intend to bring them there so that they can take the world.
MrMGR1986
and yet from the Well came the tree in which helped grow the world back and give the nightelfs time to prepare for another invasion which was going to happen anyway.
How about the story of Leroy Jenkins next.
Leeroy Jenkins has nothing to do with the Warcraft lore. Just search for Leeroy Jenkins Original on youtube and you get the story about him^^
Rugaas91 u mad?
Dcoolest I think I just gained a few cells of cancer from you.
Scar Mu ; )
Leeroy is a troll who got famous for being responsible for a wipe. The end.
Awwwmnooo nobbel was expecting something else.but a video from you is always a smile on my face! Was just hoping for something other than archimonde
Such a fantastic video! Thank you so much for making these!
Cool fights would be
Archimonde, kil'jaeden and Mannoroth against us.
Now that would be a fight if we could defeat them that would leave Sargeras with no leutanants left.
ffs. Every damn hero in Warcraft 3 is soooo much better written and voiced than they are in WoW.
Really wow is a dumpfk . Just look at illidan in frozen throne movie he look much better . Also the story is a bit fked in wow :/ . Wc3 best game really wanna back to the old days with it
I like watching these episodes more than most tv shows. 10/10 dude
I don't know what it is about your videos, but they always make me very interested in the lore behind World of Warcraft. Thanks!
Deathwing vs Sargeras Wrestlemania 31
lol
Hormer Fitzgerald Hehe, Deathwing is dead by now ;) But anyways, he wouldn't stand a chance against Sargeras
Hormer Fitzgerald That'd be an even bigger one sided fight than Brock Lesner vs pre-serum Steve Rogers (Captain America)
Hormer Fitzgerald dude sargeras would destroy azeroth just by landing on it so dw is nothing compared to him :)
+Snore powa they can always have a rock paper sizer fight
you should do illidian story too, since you do demons at the moment :)
i like demons lore and i would like to hear more about their significant characters, you could even do the lesser demon characters summed up in one vid :D
Hehe, thank you for this upload JUST after the livestream!
Here you go! Archimonde and Mannoroth in one Raid. Im so excited about this
Could you maybe do the lore of Neltharion one day?
Illidan agrees to help fight the demons after 10000 years, Malfurion drives him away
Illidan sacrifices his soul to fight the demons alone, Malfurion despises him
Malfurion is a fucking douchebag
Also instead of accepting Illidan's help Malfurion blew up the world tree and he was praised for it wth
hey nobbel awesome video! the beginning sounds like the one of kil'jaeden :). I quit Warcraft and Blizzard games long ago, but everytime i hear a Lorevideo from you i get a tingling feeling to play this game again just becaus of the lore. Thank you for giving me an option to get the new Warcraftstroy without playing it. Greetings from vienna @ 3 AM :=)
I remember playing Reign of Chaos and completing the game for the first time. It was very satisfying to see those whisps race through the air, encircle Archimonde, and put an end to the invasion.
i dont get why tyrande like malfurion not illidan
because she was a choosy bitch. Illidan did everything get her attention, but she only had eyes for Malfurion.
Murakami Preach it.
How did the demons get to Draenor if they can't get to Azeroth without being summoned? At least Mannoroth must have been there to give his blood to the orcs. If Gul'dan summoned them somehow, then why didn't they simply walked through the Dark Portal into Azeroth?
It is not that easy. For Mannoroth it is quite easy to get to a world. He is a pit lord. He's been in Azeroth two time. But for Archimonde it is a bit harder. As you see though he also said: "If I knew it's this easy, I would have started this invasion centurys ago!" This means he was able to come to azeroth whenever he wanted to.
Marvin Bannach
The invasion was started by the scourge, and only when they summoned him did he arrive. It took the most powerful known spellbook to bring him into the world.
varnisa
Exactly, and then Archi could summon Mannoroth.
My question was, how did Mannoroth got to Draenor to "feed" the orcs with his blood if not Archi nor Kil'Ji was there to summon him?
If he was summoned with a weaker summoning spell (by a warlock), why didn't he then summon some of his own army and lead the orcs through the Dark Portal? He was a quite formidable demon, not a weakling. He could have handled Gul'dan and without his betrayal the Horde would have crushed Lordaeron as well. Maybe even save Medivh/Sargeras to gain some prestige.
Also, when the Alliance pushed the Horde back to Draenor, Ner'zhul used summoning portals to bring demons to his aid which destroyed Draenor, yet Mannoroth was still nowhere to be seen. Where the hell did he go after the orcs drank his blood?
Loving all these videos, learning all this lore is so amazing!
Aaand Archimonde returned and we fought him together with Mannoroth and Gul'Dan. Brilliant. x)
Ever Considered to do Diablo or Starcraft Lore?
best comment ever!!
Earlier today after the Final Boss trivial pursuit he said in chat that he does like the Diablo series, but he knows very little about the story. So it is a possibility.
So basically Medivh is Martin Luther King. He had a "dream" when all the races of Azeroth would join forces together setting their differences aside and fight back the Burning Legion.
4:05 it was revealed how the well was created
"The original Well of Eternity was formed from a great wound in Azeroth's surface, created when Aman'Thul, the Highfather of the titan Pantheon, ripped the Old God Y'Shaarj from the world's crust and tore it apart."
Source: Wowpedia
Night elf with hipster glasses.
Okay Nobbel, you win. Dude, seriously. Win. Big HUGE WIN!
11:05 - 11:35 Spamming Entangling Roots is never a good idea
Illidan:Guys, I just sacrifice my eyes, no big duel , and I saw How much power the legion have.Mulfurion:betrayer fuck you hunt him downThe rest of the night elve:yeah fuck the betrayer man.Illidan:wtf??????
Illidan:Guys from what I saw, the legion will be back so I made another well of eternity hope u guys like it.Mulfurion: Betrayer fuck you lets lock him down.Small part of night elves:But, we just got immortality because of it?All other night elve:Kill the betrayer!!!!!!!!!!!!!Illidan(in prison):???????
Tyrande:(I know this idiot love me so much) Hey illidan , the legion is back like you said, can you help us pls?Illidan:Ok!The player like me:???????Illidan: hey brother I just sacrafice my soul ,kill the Demond and save the forest, are you happy?Mulfurion:Fuck you betrayer I am gonna banish you to the Outland.Illidan:Ok!Player like me:?????????????????????????????????????????????????
In WOW burning crusadeBefore all those stupid player kill illidan in the black temple.Illidan:no pressure my illidari , but is the last step to defeat the legion, Again no pressure but if you guys fuck this up we all doom! Oh they are(the stupid player) here I will hold them back and guys just try your best!After a whileIllidari:Illidan illidan ! We success , we can save the world now, oh shit why you guys kill illidan????????Illidan on the floor: I love you tyrande.
😁😁😁😂 best comment 2017 👍👌
I love how each video on The Eredar Lords starts the EXACT SAME WAY, GG Nobbel
WC3 Cinematics were actually the highlight of my childhood.
when do you sleep Nobbel? xD
Haha very little ^_^
lorewalkers don't sleep, silly :P
Goodjob on getting your account rights back!
Archimonde so mighty yet we the players come in and wreck face.
Illidan dude got no chill. He was banished again right after he was freed from prison. Dude is gangsta
Something always bothered me, it's that unexplained capacity he has to grow in size. The first time you see him in Warcraft 3 in the Undead campaign, he is about man-sized. By the end of the game, he is giant!
from what i heard he began getting bigger and bigger as he was approaching the world tree
M28tan Is this official?
I remember reading of the wiki so it depends if it is reliable
M28tan Ok, thanks.
Gordonkris he is a demon afterall and because he intended to destroy the "tree" he had to get into his original form (size) and his full power. Cant imagine him wrecking the tree down by being human size XD
Why are some Draenei/Eredar blue and some red?? It seems that all the eredar (evil ones) are red except for Archimonde, whereas all the Draenei are blue.
Not sure.
prince malchezaar is an eredar and he is the same colour as archimonde,although as far as I know there are no red draenei
youre the best story teller man! that 30min passed like 5min :) i love youuuu
If Archimonde and Kil'Jaeden was going to team up, that would be one heck of a fight.
Hey, I was wondering, could you do a video on the Lich King/ Arthas Menethil? I am all of a sudden interested in him now and it would be awesome to know some background lore of him... Thanks!
Can you make an illidan lore plz
I'm going to sum him up right now as his title, "The Betrayer" is very ironic to his character (basically, he did good stuff but his brother never agreed with his methods, thus imprisoned/banished him even at the most dumbest of points).
i know that is the reason why i dont like malfurion
Hey Nobble, great video as always, keep up The good work!
At the end of the video you start talking about how Archimonde might still be alive due to the whole 'powerfull demons can only truly be killed if they are killed in the twisting nether' and while I can't argue with (most of) Blizzard lore/rules and your great arguments, I was hoping you would address that (at least pre-cataclysm) Blizzard had stuck bones, a skull and shoulders of what surely looked like to be what was the remains of Archimonde in the world tree. Now this was before Cataclysm, back in the days where Blizzard didn't really wanted people snooping around the in closed/unfinished zone of Mount Hyjal with the 'under construction sign' placed in front of the World Tree, but I haven't played for a while and I can't remember if they removed the remains when they reopened Mount Hyjal in Cataclysm...
Maybe the Night Elves did a bit of clean up? Peoples been asking what happens to Frostmourne after The Lich king's defeat, maybe someone is hiding the 'shoulders of Archimonde' somewhere? Possible new Shadow priest gear for Anduin for the final fight against the legion?
I know that Kel'thuzad wasn't a demon, but Arthas still had to carry his physical remains of the necromancer in his own fathers urn to resurrect him as a Lich and we did see demons in Azeroth during Classic-WoW, especially Felwood and the south of winterspring (which had the original entrance to Mount Hyjal in Classic), maybe they collected the remains of their fallen Demon Lord from Hyjal and brought it back to the Twisting Nether to speed up the recovery process?
I personally believe your thoughts/speculation sounds more likely of what Blizzard decided to do, but I was just a tad disappointed you didn't mentioned the remains at the end.
Otherwise, great video! Can't wait to see what you tackle next!
Watching at the last seconds, you were absolutely right about the future of this character Nobbel :O
I hope we see Archimonde again in WOD.
Your wish has been granted.
TimusTitans I know. So happy that the most badass warlock is coming back.
The Ascendent You do know that Archimonde isn't a Warlock... Right?
The Ascendent and you know that archimonde is nothing compared to kil'jaeden right ?
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This guy pronounces th as if he was saying butter brotter so weird
I've seen a few videos now and everything is _slowly_ starting to make sense now
Awesome vid man can't wait till next week
i don't think he will be coming back. mainly because he is not truly a demon. he is a eredar. not to mention if we do confront archimonde in wod. it wont be the archimonde we know of it will be a completely different universe version.
he sacrificed his soul to sargeras, like kil'jaeden,so technically,he is a demon
hes both
Giorotto
being a true demon and being a being of great power converted to demonisim is 2 different things. some would argue that illidan was a demon. but his genetic makeup is night elf. no matter how you cut it. archimondes genetic makeup was eredar.
demonpride1975 "Most demons are not born as such, but were converted to demonic beings by the Burning Legion after their worlds were conquered" -Wowwiki
He's eredar warlock.
I really hate hearing Noobel say Night Elf Immortality. Even after showing a video clip of two demons killing two elfs. Not really immortal if you can die to a sword. Kinda with he would just say ageless.
cant die of age. but can die in combat.
samfjord Immortality means you can not die at all.
Not from time. Not from physical wounds. Not from illness.
They are more of an ageless race. Once who can not die from age. The movie highlander had more believe able immortality then WoW does.
Sure beheading is a strange loop hole but then again. Would you want to be alive forever just a head.
doomblackdragon There are different definitions of immortality. Since it's not real, fictional settings can have it mean whatever they want.
***** Actually there is only one definition to the world immortality. Go look up the words definition. It clearly says can not be killed. I do not care about if the world is fiction or not. That just poor writing when you miss use a word.
Just because it a fiction story does not mean words suddenly change their meaning. What am I supposed to believe that the blade is destroying some type of magical crystal in their body that is their source of their immortality?
Am I supposed to forgive writers for making logical mistakes? Am I not supposed not to laugh at cringe worthy writing?
I have seen many authors do these mistakes. The bikers hops on his bike. Putting it into reverse and backs out of the drive way. 0.0
Yes that was in a book. The lady who wrote it clearly has never been on a motorcycle. If she did. She would know motorcycle do not have a reverse.
doomblackdragon Well it's a fairly common thing. For example, in Lord of The Rings, the elves are immortal in that they will not die of age but they can die from mortal wounds.
@14:00, Illidan's Promise seems to have become a reality a couple of times, now, given the events of Legion.
"Tremble mortals and despair! Doom has come to this world" Archimonde.... this is the single most epic quote in wow history
Actually, Archimonde DID die, his bones are in the world tree, you cant see then in the game, but lore-wise they are there
Yeah, if you managed to get into hyjal pre-cata by walljumping you can see his huge skeleton
But it was removed when cata came out so it is possible they changed their minds and plan on having him return. That's the only reason i'd see them removing them cause it would have made hyjal a little bit cooler with such a large testament to the people of azeroth's strength.
sgcandrewkard
its been quote confirmed that he was dead. the bones were mentioned as having been removed. Since having a demon lords bones lying around your sacred world tree isnt the done thing.
Nothing is written in stone so they can change anything and they frequently do. And fans frequently hate on them for it.
Maelstrom from capital of the naga to portal to Deepholme.
Drek'Thar being born blind to becoming blind in WoD.
Draenei corrupting Sargeras to Sargeras recruiting the draenei later.
Dragon Aspects being empowered by Titans to Kalec becoming one because of a moon alignment or something. I don't even know how Thrall became one.
I'm sure there are more cases but I had given up on wow lore long ago.
Wlarius
alright this is something im intrested in since i never heard this version
the draenei corrupting sargeras?
so when it comes to stuff we fight and how dangerous they are it goes
Old Gods > Burning Legion > Scourge > varied annoyances
I hope for a story about Grom Hellscream soon. I know his lore, I just want to hear _you_ say it.
As always, great vid. Really appreciate the work you put in to these.
Great video as usual, Nobbel. Thanks!
I wanted to ask if you if you could slate in a video about all of the Troll tribes and their relations. One of my favorite points in Warcraft lore. I know you've done one of the Darkspear Revolution, and I'd love to see more!
I just want to say that I absolutely love your lore videos.
duuude caverns of time dungeon where we help Velen and the Draenei escape from Argus would be incredible
Fighting Archimonde and Kil'jaeden at the same time, aided by Velen's Naaru. Needs to happen.
I find the prediction at the end of this hilarious.
I absolutely love those cinematic cut scenes from warcraft3. I wish they'd added some like that to world of warcraft instead of them always being the in game engine.
Anyone new here (2017 onward)- the Sargeras info has been retconned somewhat. It was found that Void lords were trying to take over the minds of unborn Titans on planets in order to manifest their darkness into reality. Sargeras, as protector of these unborn Titans and the Universe, was one of the only Titans to see first hand the sinister outcome of the Void lords plans. He had to destroy an unborn Titan that had become corrupt before it was born into the world, and seeing it as the only option, he decided that the only solution to remove the darkness from the universe was to destroy it and start over from scratch, basically.
So he's not just randomly evil, he's just really, really fatalistic.
So basicaly Deathwing arived like a boss on the Battlefield Dominated and went back WHAT A BADASS ! :D
now i know why they made a whole expansion about him lol
I love listening to your Lore vids while playing wow
I personally would love to see Archimonde's return, I've always been a huge fan of demon lore, specifically the Man'ari Eredar and Draenei, Archimonde's appearance in WoD or a later expansion would set my opinion on that expansion depending on if they portray him well
Your lore videos are really good, but I would like to add that we do know why the well was created. The titans formed it to be the source of the Arcane energy that flowed from it and around Azeroth in the ley lines. This part is my next assumption do to reading so much of the other parts of lore but since raw Arcane energy was not originally on Azeroth without the Titans intervention, I think that it was created to be the vortex or hole through where it was brought into Azeroth to be mixed naturally and absorbed with balance. Arcane energy has been mentioned to be in the Nether and other "planes" naturally but since the Titans creations ((dragons and other such wardens)) used it to do their work they needed to weave it into their reworking of the world. Anyways just wanted to make that noted, I love your videos so much because I am such a big rper and story teller myself. Tanirus on Wyrmrest Accord :) plz keep up the good work!
I feel like once people are given the expnasion where they kill Sargeras, they'll feel like there's nothing left to WoW because you killed the biggest, baddest dude around.
Fantastic video Nobbel, always love some good lore. You make it very interesting.
EXCELLENT!!
I loved this story.
Keep up the great work.
Saw you on Final Boss today, lore you know well...but need to work on those professions. lol j/k
That was interesting :) Your wish came true mate :D Archi is in the hellfire citadel now.
Oh my god ! An sober Irish ! You are even rarer than the time-lost protodrake !
I love you videos man, very in depth. you make everything simple to understand which is great. the volume of you voice though is like a roller coaster XD I keep turning it up and down cause at one momment I cant hear and then all of the sudden you go "BLAAAAAH BLAAAHH, blah blah blah BLAH BLAHH
Loved seeing you on the finalbossTV thing tonight! Great job haha :)
Have you made a story of Sargeras yet? I searched your channel for it but no results were shown. If you havn't made one, would you consider doing one? I'd love to hear more about the titans / old gods! :D
favorite Demon Lord