In my opinion, Broxigar has always been the most badass character in wow lore. Just an orc with a magic axe facing off against the burning legion and dealing a blow to Sargeras himself.
Wow that's cool. I'm assuming you also mean you never played warcraft 3? Wouldn't it be cool if they made a Netflix series showing the lore? They did it for DotA and it was received well enough. WoW's story is way safer than what they did coming up with new stuff for DotA as well. All of the classic WoW/warcraft lore would be a great way to prime people to play the game. Doesn't have to be cgi animation either. It could be just traditional animation.
@@richardbudai1827 Legion was not a good expansion. It was the first expansion where Blizzard shifted their focus on awful, but effective, system design to farm MAUs.
@@suzandouglass5241 "...I've traded my freedom for a$$ before.... I AM MY BLUE BALLS!" Illidan kills Tyrande and becomes teh start of the next expansion. and we team up with Sargeras on his redemption arc, redeeming his planet destroying self by killing illidan,the dude who went mad cuz of blue balls.
"Sargeras' original idea of forming his Legion is no longer a thing?" Even if Azeroth were cleansed for now, it's not immune to future corruption, so I say Sargeras would still wanna destroy Azeroth, or at least not until she awakes and could not be corrupted like the other fully-awaken Titans.
Thing is sending an Old Gods was something of one time arrangement that required a lot of power from Void Lords - they can't just throwing a new one all the time. So as it stands for now - Azeroth is relatively safe from that kind of corruption.
I got out of touch with the warcraft Fandom for long time, more than a decade. I remember being active wow player when they revealed Illidan as a raid boss and everyone was losing it how cool he was, then I played Warcraft 3 few years later and fell in love with Illidan. Seeing where they evolved his story was beautiful. It's such a shame I can't afford being an active player anymore. I know myself, I'll quickly lose my job and play all day, but this time I'm adults no parents to take my PC away to study lmao
There also was one additional moment with Sargeras, when Varimathras tried to overthrow Sylvanas in the Undercity during WOTLK to claim forsaken for the Legion
i refuse to believe that there are no more titans after Azeroth. like across the entire universe there's seriously only one left. just sounds like a way to shift the focus onto the First Ones imo.
If I had to come up with a reason of why Sargaras didn't use the key to jump to Azeroth it would be that perhaps the key opens a portal to any world that has a Legion gateway connected to the key. So until a portal is opened on Azeroth creating a connection to the key it couldn't be used to get to Azeroth. So it had to be used from Azeroth first. Just my thought though.
The keystone is a registry and a conduit, most of the worlds coordinates saved on it have been conquered by the Legion, Azeroth was added by the Illidari when they escaped Mardum aboard The Fel Hammer.
Ahh Sargeras. Probelby my nr1 fave godlike figure in all of wow. just from how he looks. tho i do prefer the felfire variant we see in what i asume is consept art
If memory serves, Illidan managed to travel to Argus using an astral form. That may explain why Illidan can use the Sargerite Keystone to open a portal from Azeroth to Argus. On the other hand, Sargeras may have been unable to get Azeroth's exact location because his avatar and minions were only able to get to Azeroth through portals. Just a guess.
Well, well, well I don’t not expect a origin video on the leader of the burning legion. Interesting. Killing and subjecting countless worlds vs burning a tree. Which one wins? 21:15 good point because then the war of the ancients would’ve ended VERY differently! Lol
I was there alongside Nobbel as we opened the gates of Ahn Qiraj. I was there alongside Nobbel as we stormed the portal to Outland. I was there beside Nobbel as we ran toward battle against the Lich King. I remember everything. His Paladin was hilarious 😂 sometimes he’d be healing the wrong person and you can just see him beginning a heal and then stop randomly like “oops”.
i absolutely love smoking some weed, putting on a queue of nobell old lore videos, and grind some wow. it brings me alot of peace and i cant emphasize how much i appreciate all the work he has put in over the years.
The keystone is a registry and a conduit, most of the worlds coordinates saved on it have been conquered by the Legion, Azeroth was added by the Illidari when they escaped Mardum aboard The Fel Hammer. The legion was never able to locate Azeroth in the Nether, that's why they never used any of their spaceships to lock on that location. Beside, the warp engine on these things are ravenous in Souls and Fel energy. To invade by portals and summons is the more efficient way for them but we stopped any tentative that used these tactics. So by the time they found Azeroth with the last connection made in the Tomb by Gul'dan, they no longer had the keystone for almost a decade but it was easy for their spaceships to jump to Azeroth even without it.
And then with each expansion they reveal the= simple and uninteresting truths that ruin the great potential that was setup. It really gives their players hope for future storytelling ...
"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche -
2024: Sargeras was only tricked into doing all of that so Zuval can get out from the Maw and fight the void, Sargeras wanted to kill Azeroth as He was scared of it if the Void corruped Azeroth.
I think the reason why Sargeras never used the keystone himself is because it could only open gateways to Legion worlds. Azeroth is not under their dominion even with the corruption brought on by the portal at the Tomb of Sargeras, as seen when we kill Dread commander Arganoth the first time, he comes back later during our retribution; If it was under their domain, he would've died for good. plus he didn't know Azaroths exact location so he couldn't just transport himself to the nearest Legion world. Plus, he already had planed to infiltrate and attack Azeroth directly through Illidans body, so a giant portal wouldn't be necessary.
Hey nobbel, im lurking and watching long time. Wanted to ask what program you use to edit your videos and if u could tell your lore in video editing. How did you start, what inspired you and where did you learn. I know big wall of text but if u read it big thanks. I got lore vid ideas on my own but i have to learn since at my level i cant make them how i imagined them first. Yours faithfully, snubi.
I'm convinced it was all a ruse set up by N'zoth. He realized that we were too powerful and thus made us think we had actually slayed him, but in truth he just retreated back into the depths of Azeroth to continue to gain strength for when he can effortlessly take over the world without even worrying about us intervening.
Hey Nobbel, I asked this in stream yesterday, but my words were poorly constructed. So, Sargeras wants to destroy all worlds because no one knows what hides a world-soul and he doesnt want old gods corrupting one, he destroyed Telogrus, talked to the titans, they were like nope, then he began his crusade, but basically he found Argus, as titan without corruption and used him to speed the rebirth process of demons Meanwhile, he learned that Azeroth is another world-soul, and if she awakens she could fuck up the void lords, problem is:old gods ofc he wanteed to destroy the planet, but when he reached it, in the end of legion, all old gods were chained, why didnt he just kept the legion there to ensure that the old gods remain in prison? Sargeras became more powerful when he became imbued with fel, why not imbue Azeroth with it, then, and you will have a void lord ++++++ titan in your dark pantheon?
Because at the start of the story - he learned that azeroth is another world soul - his fellow pantheon peops already informed him on the work they'd done on azeroth. Sarg didn't care, it was going to have to be destroyed so even if he had the option to contain/infuse/keep those old gods imprisoned...he wouldn't have.
And this is one hell of a character that blizzard didn't messed up with basically sergares is one of those characters who still exist from 1994 to this day I will rather play an expansion fu of demons and fight sergares rather than the crappy shadowlands
It's possible someone already made this speculation, but has anyone considered the possibility that Sargeras is actually a first one? Think about it. The rest of the pantheons are obviously much weaker than the titan one at its prime... but we only ever see a (relatively) weak Titan pantheon. What if the original explanation (that they are weak due to death at sargeras' hands) was yet another of their lies? Perhaps this is more or less their full power. Sargeras killed their bodies and tried to subvert their minds (since their souls survived) because he was rebelling against the First ones, of whom he was a member, and not against the Titans. Their death being more collateral damage. Consider also that Argus is not planet sized either(the Titan) even if he/they are born inside planets(or grow in them) We were told (lie?) that this is because he was being drained but.....
But why would he attempt that if he doesn't have too? The Void is the first thing that scared him and all he saw were mere fractions from the void lords causing corruption. There is no way for him to ensure that he would win against a void lord if he invades and even worse, If he indeed is not able to win then he can no longer back out because his invasion attempt did half of the job for the void lords to corrupt the universe as he now has opened up a passage for them.
@@Nobbel87 Thanks for responding, good man! So we can assume it's the place where Illidan takes care of Sargeras together with the rest of the Pantheon and if the red star's gone, we have to worry that they couldn't hold Sargeras back, or something else that's pretty destructive, right? :-o
I'm sure you're really good at this, one of the best and I wanted so much to learn more about it but I just can't tank the voice and the flair in some pronunciations. I'm just one guy, keep on rocking! Cheers!
The only question I have is why Sargeras doesn’t really do anything or even mention the existence of the Naaru and the light/army of the light . Why not send Kil’jaden
Sargeras does a lot, and Sargeras clearly does care about the Naaru and the Light. Hell, he literally sends Aggramar to deal with the Light as soon as he’s told of their invasion on Argus. He also believes to have won against the Light on some accounts. Regarding what else he does, he’s out destroying shit in reality throughout infinite timelines and universes. So…
@@codymao42 when exactly did we fight against sargeras or void lords? We know them only from legends, characters we've never seen or only for a short while. old gods Archimonde, kij jaiden there only servants of the real big bad. a harbinger of a real threat. why do we need a new bad guy when we don't know many about the old ones? we have been discovering their lore for years and this is exiting. But now they want to squeeze in a zovall that no one is interested in.
What? But Sargeras was a fallen member of the Pantheon of Order who now “rules” over Disorder, while Zovaal is a Fallen Death Pantheon member who now has the powers of the Maw and his OG Arbiter shit. Tf do you mean “strongest LIFE vs Death Pantheon”. If anything, that’s just Disorder Vs Death.
so wait, sargeras trapped the demons on the planet mardum and then he destroyed the planet and the explosion transformed him? thats such a massive plothole stupidity
I like to relate Sargeras to the 40k lore of the warp. He was corrupted by fel and was not able to pass into the mortal realm easy like daemons in 40k do. While they can physically manifest in the mortal plane it takes a large amount of energy/magic to summon them in. Having been corrupted by fel he became linked to the twisting nether like daemons in 40k are linked to the warp. He could open a bridge with keystone like in @21:20 but could not break the veil that was in place. Similar how the eye of terror can spew forth chaos mortals from the warp but daemons still have an issue getting out (well previous to the cicatrix being made).
They should have stopped after Wrath. And by Wrath I mean that the player characters should have died to the Lich King and "King Terenas" should never have used revive.
I give up on wow lore. Having to put an asterisk on every sentence because of so many rat cons and muddled storytelling has just turned me off so much.Having so many questions and contradictions just pulls you out of the whole fantasy. They should just start over.
The true ending of WoW and it's final boss... A fail and a dhame that Blizzard but that in the midle.. Now everything else is filler, powercreep and meaningless..
I don't know why you guys try to speak in such a cringe accent 😕 it sounds so bad and it's hard to understand the complex names. So stop it! It does not make the lore better 😐
@@sethescope oh really, and what should i change about myself 😕 And it's not a natural accent that he has. No you can easily tell that most of the story tellers use this accent to make it look more mysterious 🙄 And yes subtitles exist but not every video has it. And auto generated subtitles are pretty inaccurate 😳 so stop gaslighting me😾
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In my opinion, Broxigar has always been the most badass character in wow lore. Just an orc with a magic axe facing off against the burning legion and dealing a blow to Sargeras himself.
The most badass shoehorned character in WoW lore.
Meh. Ever heard of full capacity old gods or the Azeroth herself?
Never played wow, but I have watched all Nobbel's lore video. Love your content!
Wow that's cool. I'm assuming you also mean you never played warcraft 3?
Wouldn't it be cool if they made a Netflix series showing the lore? They did it for DotA and it was received well enough. WoW's story is way safer than what they did coming up with new stuff for DotA as well. All of the classic WoW/warcraft lore would be a great way to prime people to play the game. Doesn't have to be cgi animation either. It could be just traditional animation.
@@HOBOsnake - What are you, Cameron McEwen's alt acccount?
God I miss legion so much.
I miss Wow so much 😑
Legion was the last good expansion.
@@richardbudai1827 Legion was not a good expansion. It was the first expansion where Blizzard shifted their focus on awful, but effective, system design to farm MAUs.
Yeah man...
i’m still time walking legion quests to this day lmao
Calling it now, The end of Shadowlands will be Illidan riding Sargeras into battle and 1-shots the Jailer.
Tyrande sees him, pulls him aside and says "I owe you an apology"...
@@suzandouglass5241 "...I've traded my freedom for a$$ before....
I AM MY BLUE BALLS!"
Illidan kills Tyrande and becomes teh start of the next expansion.
and we team up with Sargeras on his redemption arc, redeeming his planet destroying self by killing illidan,the dude who went mad cuz of blue balls.
Implying he even can 1 shot him
@@DeMishMIsh he's not gonna kill her. She is still Elune's special girl. They just may have a better "understanding" now.
@@preds43 Pretty confident Sergeras>Jailer
Illidan, putting out a cigarette and picking up a guitar: "Isolation...."
Then lights a joint and places it on the neck like Van Halen: "At Last..."
@Socialism Kills - That just makes the whole difference though, doesn't it? Freedom to choose his own fate.
Sargeras got pulled out of Azeroth, as like a kid being dragged onto a school bus.
I was thinking more like Jafar in Alladin
Even the way he said "no" was so pathetic.
"Sargeras' original idea of forming his Legion is no longer a thing?"
Even if Azeroth were cleansed for now, it's not immune to future corruption, so I say Sargeras would still wanna destroy Azeroth, or at least not until she awakes and could not be corrupted like the other fully-awaken Titans.
Don’t worry. We’ll kick his ass in a mini raid or some shit in the Light and Void expac
I don’t think sargeras ever wanted to destroy Azeroth
@@KC-py5vq Sargeras was definitely stabbing at the Void inside the crust of the planet, she sleeps deeper within
@@gostreiver8036 - He was being pulled back and couldn't muster his full strength for the blow.
Thing is sending an Old Gods was something of one time arrangement that required a lot of power from Void Lords - they can't just throwing a new one all the time.
So as it stands for now - Azeroth is relatively safe from that kind of corruption.
Really liked the little comparison within Sargeras and Arthas at the start of their fall
"This entire universe must be purged."
@@mokarokas-1727 "How can you even consider that? There's got to be some other way."
Sargeras will always be my favourite WoW villain!
"Sargeras! You speak if the Legion's creator." *- Maiev Shadowsong*
I got out of touch with the warcraft Fandom for long time, more than a decade. I remember being active wow player when they revealed Illidan as a raid boss and everyone was losing it how cool he was, then I played Warcraft 3 few years later and fell in love with Illidan.
Seeing where they evolved his story was beautiful. It's such a shame I can't afford being an active player anymore. I know myself, I'll quickly lose my job and play all day, but this time I'm adults no parents to take my PC away to study lmao
There also was one additional moment with Sargeras, when Varimathras tried to overthrow Sylvanas in the Undercity during WOTLK to claim forsaken for the Legion
i refuse to believe that there are no more titans after Azeroth. like across the entire universe there's seriously only one left. just sounds like a way to shift the focus onto the First Ones imo.
exactly!! only 1 is left
If I had to come up with a reason of why Sargaras didn't use the key to jump to Azeroth it would be that perhaps the key opens a portal to any world that has a Legion gateway connected to the key. So until a portal is opened on Azeroth creating a connection to the key it couldn't be used to get to Azeroth. So it had to be used from Azeroth first.
Just my thought though.
The keystone was most likely a back up plan in case they decided that it would be too much of a hassle to use their normal methods.
The keystone is a registry and a conduit, most of the worlds coordinates saved on it have been conquered by the Legion, Azeroth was added by the Illidari when they escaped Mardum aboard The Fel Hammer.
The Story of Sargeras.
Once there was an ugly titan.
He was so ugly that everyone died.
The end.
I'd pay good money to see Illidan riding on Sargeras' shoulder flying home to mama.
Ahh Sargeras. Probelby my nr1 fave godlike figure in all of wow. just from how he looks. tho i do prefer the felfire variant we see in what i asume is consept art
If memory serves, Illidan managed to travel to Argus using an astral form. That may explain why Illidan can use the Sargerite Keystone to open a portal from Azeroth to Argus. On the other hand, Sargeras may have been unable to get Azeroth's exact location because his avatar and minions were only able to get to Azeroth through portals. Just a guess.
Well, well, well I don’t not expect a origin video on the leader of the burning legion.
Interesting.
Killing and subjecting countless worlds vs burning a tree. Which one wins?
21:15 good point because then the war of the ancients would’ve ended VERY differently! Lol
I was there alongside Nobbel as we opened the gates of Ahn Qiraj.
I was there alongside Nobbel as we stormed the portal to Outland.
I was there beside Nobbel as we ran toward battle against the Lich King.
I remember everything.
His Paladin was hilarious 😂 sometimes he’d be healing the wrong person and you can just see him beginning a heal and then stop randomly like “oops”.
Draenei of the Light for the win
Thank u for the info and i love your accent, and the way you narrate, very enjoyable brofist
i absolutely love smoking some weed, putting on a queue of nobell old lore videos, and grind some wow. it brings me alot of peace and i cant emphasize how much i appreciate all the work he has put in over the years.
The keystone is a registry and a conduit, most of the worlds coordinates saved on it have been conquered by the Legion, Azeroth was added by the Illidari when they escaped Mardum aboard The Fel Hammer. The legion was never able to locate Azeroth in the Nether, that's why they never used any of their spaceships to lock on that location. Beside, the warp engine on these things are ravenous in Souls and Fel energy. To invade by portals and summons is the more efficient way for them but we stopped any tentative that used these tactics. So by the time they found Azeroth with the last connection made in the Tomb by Gul'dan, they no longer had the keystone for almost a decade but it was easy for their spaceships to jump to Azeroth even without it.
Great video love the sargeras lore
-Removing McCree related stuff
" So that got me thinking of sargeras"
I love how WoW goes so far as a game with it's story. It's the biggest appeal for me as a player.
And then with each expansion they reveal the= simple and uninteresting truths that ruin the great potential that was setup. It really gives their players hope for future storytelling ...
"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."
- Friedrich Nietzsche -
2024: Sargeras was only tricked into doing all of that so Zuval can get out from the Maw and fight the void, Sargeras wanted to kill Azeroth as He was scared of it if the Void corruped Azeroth.
I think the reason why Sargeras never used the keystone himself is because it could only open gateways to Legion worlds. Azeroth is not under their dominion even with the corruption brought on by the portal at the Tomb of Sargeras, as seen when we kill Dread commander Arganoth the first time, he comes back later during our retribution; If it was under their domain, he would've died for good. plus he didn't know Azaroths exact location so he couldn't just transport himself to the nearest Legion world. Plus, he already had planed to infiltrate and attack Azeroth directly through Illidans body, so a giant portal wouldn't be necessary.
I’ve waited ages for this vid
I would imagine that the keystone could only transport you to a fel world, and since Azaroth, is mostly not fel, it probably couldnt lock on to it.
The thing is, why didn't any demon on Azeroth do what Illidan did?
How did Illidan open a portal FROM Argus TO Azeroth after defeating Kil'jaeden, then?
“The War Within” announcement trailer brought me here…
Hey nobbel, im lurking and watching long time. Wanted to ask what program you use to edit your videos and if u could tell your lore in video editing. How did you start, what inspired you and where did you learn. I know big wall of text but if u read it big thanks. I got lore vid ideas on my own but i have to learn since at my level i cant make them how i imagined them first. Yours faithfully, snubi.
I refuse to accept we defeated the old gods.... there's no way that nzoth battle was it... nope... never happened
I'm convinced it was all a ruse set up by N'zoth. He realized that we were too powerful and thus made us think we had actually slayed him, but in truth he just retreated back into the depths of Azeroth to continue to gain strength for when he can effortlessly take over the world without even worrying about us intervening.
I got an idea you should make a story of akama and the broken
Players: What about the Sword in the planet?
Blizzard: What sword...?
Hey Nobbel, I asked this in stream yesterday, but my words were poorly constructed.
So, Sargeras wants to destroy all worlds because no one knows what hides a world-soul and he doesnt want old gods corrupting one, he destroyed Telogrus, talked to the titans, they were like nope, then he began his crusade, but basically he found Argus, as titan without corruption and used him to speed the rebirth process of demons
Meanwhile, he learned that Azeroth is another world-soul, and if she awakens she could fuck up the void lords, problem is:old gods
ofc he wanteed to destroy the planet, but when he reached it, in the end of legion, all old gods were chained, why didnt he just kept the legion there to ensure that the old gods remain in prison? Sargeras became more powerful when he became imbued with fel, why not imbue Azeroth with it, then, and you will have a void lord ++++++ titan in your dark pantheon?
Because at the start of the story - he learned that azeroth is another world soul - his fellow pantheon peops already informed him on the work they'd done on azeroth. Sarg didn't care, it was going to have to be destroyed so even if he had the option to contain/infuse/keep those old gods imprisoned...he wouldn't have.
@@Nobbel87 Thank you for your answer! Been watching your lore vids since MoP, I was an elementary school student then, how time flies by!
And this is one hell of a character that blizzard didn't messed up with basically sergares is one of those characters who still exist from 1994 to this day I will rather play an expansion fu of demons and fight sergares rather than the crappy shadowlands
Well one of they keys to the legion tower/gate thingy is with Azshara the tide stone. =) So its 90% locked. That we know of i might add.
The lore in Wow is so fucking cool.
It's possible someone already made this speculation, but has anyone considered the possibility that Sargeras is actually a first one? Think about it. The rest of the pantheons are obviously much weaker than the titan one at its prime... but we only ever see a (relatively) weak Titan pantheon. What if the original explanation (that they are weak due to death at sargeras' hands) was yet another of their lies? Perhaps this is more or less their full power. Sargeras killed their bodies and tried to subvert their minds (since their souls survived) because he was rebelling against the First ones, of whom he was a member, and not against the Titans. Their death being more collateral damage. Consider also that Argus is not planet sized either(the Titan) even if he/they are born inside planets(or grow in them) We were told (lie?) that this is because he was being drained but.....
@11:45the duplicitous illidan
I always question if Sargeras ever attempted to invade the realms of the Void
But why would he attempt that if he doesn't have too? The Void is the first thing that scared him and all he saw were mere fractions from the void lords causing corruption. There is no way for him to ensure that he would win against a void lord if he invades and even worse, If he indeed is not able to win then he can no longer back out because his invasion attempt did half of the job for the void lords to corrupt the universe as he now has opened up a passage for them.
Are you rushing through the last bits of uncovered base lore?
lol, hardly... Before becoming more focused on covering current content in the game, he made these character videos all the time.
Broxigar absolutely did not strike the "real deal." Just the fact that he was able to perceive Sargeras at all is proof that he was in avatar form.
So... About that red star in the sky after the Antorus raid. Is that where Illidan is at?
sort of. It's where the rift was, a reminder in the sky similar to how they put up Argus in the sky for a while.
@@Nobbel87 Thanks for responding, good man! So we can assume it's the place where Illidan takes care of Sargeras together with the rest of the Pantheon and if the red star's gone, we have to worry that they couldn't hold Sargeras back, or something else that's pretty destructive, right? :-o
I personally think that the champions of Azeroth are going to be replacing the Burning Legion in the end.
I'm sure you're really good at this, one of the best and I wanted so much to learn more about it but I just can't tank the voice and the flair in some pronunciations.
I'm just one guy, keep on rocking!
Cheers!
The only question I have is why Sargeras doesn’t really do anything or even mention the existence of the Naaru and the light/army of the light . Why not send Kil’jaden
Sargeras does a lot, and Sargeras clearly does care about the Naaru and the Light. Hell, he literally sends Aggramar to deal with the Light as soon as he’s told of their invasion on Argus. He also believes to have won against the Light on some accounts.
Regarding what else he does, he’s out destroying shit in reality throughout infinite timelines and universes. So…
A lot of inconsistencies that were messed up with time travel.
28 mins ? That's a trailer right ?
Days ago I made a DH and realised something odd. There is Eredar on Mardum. Oops plot hole !
Oooooh, I'm down for some of this xD
Sargeras and Void Lords are true Ultimate villans in Warcraft lore not some random boring blue guy we don't nothing about.
But do you really want to be fighting those same 2 peolple for 5 more yeara and no one else ? They have to develop new villians.
I mean, Zovaal is the big bad, but he’s definitely not the final bad.
@@codymao42 when exactly did we fight against sargeras or void lords? We know them only from legends, characters we've never seen or only for a short while. old gods Archimonde, kij jaiden there only servants of the real big bad. a harbinger of a real threat. why do we need a new bad guy when we don't know many about the old ones? we have been discovering their lore for years and this is exiting. But now they want to squeeze in a zovall that no one is interested in.
Here's how you save shadowlands lore, make it Jailer vs Sargeras. Strongest Life Pantheon vs Strongest Death Pantheon
What? But Sargeras was a fallen member of the Pantheon of Order who now “rules” over Disorder, while Zovaal is a Fallen Death Pantheon member who now has the powers of the Maw and his OG Arbiter shit.
Tf do you mean “strongest LIFE vs Death Pantheon”. If anything, that’s just Disorder Vs Death.
@@preds43 Haha true, makes no sense at all.
I love that Titan-Shit
Is sargeras will return and also illidan?
This entire universe must be purged.
Sylvanas is the best bossfight ever made.
BFC Blackhand has left the chat
No tf she’s not
Ok but what caused Mardoom to shatter? The lore is so good but I have difficulty understanding your english.
6:00 Sargeras did, he tore the prison asunder!
Wait is the world soul a titan
so wait, sargeras trapped the demons on the planet mardum and then he destroyed the planet and the explosion transformed him? thats such a massive plothole stupidity
What if Sargeras actually kicked Illidans ass then murdered the Pantheon again?😂
Void lords = Brethren Moons
The jailer did it.
I like to relate Sargeras to the 40k lore of the warp. He was corrupted by fel and was not able to pass into the mortal realm easy like daemons in 40k do. While they can physically manifest in the mortal plane it takes a large amount of energy/magic to summon them in. Having been corrupted by fel he became linked to the twisting nether like daemons in 40k are linked to the warp. He could open a bridge with keystone like in @21:20 but could not break the veil that was in place. Similar how the eye of terror can spew forth chaos mortals from the warp but daemons still have an issue getting out (well previous to the cicatrix being made).
Little planet is a wrong term any planet bigger than earth will have very low chance of supporting life
I feel like he's told the same story like 4 times from the previous vids
So Sargeras is basically just Galactus from the Fantastic 4 movie.
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Is there farting noise here? Or am I crazy
They should of stopped after Legion
It's "should have" or "should've". ^^
They should have stopped after Wrath.
And by Wrath I mean that the player characters should have died to the Lich King and "King Terenas" should never have used revive.
Sargeras>>> jailer
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heeeeeeloooo vryyyyoneeeeeeeee
If the leaks are true, I hope that azeroth will have a humanoid model that resembles ysera or alexstrasza
7:44 fart
Ayoo
I give up on wow lore. Having to put an asterisk on every sentence because of so many rat cons and muddled storytelling has just turned me off so much.Having so many questions and contradictions just pulls you out of the whole fantasy. They should just start over.
Hi
Without reading chronicles, your lore and explanations are very confusing and you skip too many things
Ow? what do you find missing?
Interesting subject matter but I can’t stand the ridiculous narration style.
The true ending of WoW and it's final boss... A fail and a dhame that Blizzard but that in the midle.. Now everything else is filler, powercreep and meaningless..
Very hard to pay attention... your tone... is like you are mocking it. bye
I don't know why you guys try to speak in such a cringe accent 😕 it sounds so bad and it's hard to understand the complex names. So stop it! It does not make the lore better 😐
people have accents. you need to deal with it - he doesn't need to change, you do.
also, captions exist. if you're having trouble understanding, try turning them on. most of the videos have custom English captions.
@@sethescope oh really, and what should i change about myself 😕
And it's not a natural accent that he has. No you can easily tell that most of the story tellers use this accent to make it look more mysterious 🙄
And yes subtitles exist but not every video has it. And auto generated subtitles are pretty inaccurate 😳 so stop gaslighting me😾
@@sethescope that's not captions you idiot 😂 it's called subtitles 😂