The Story of Kil'jaeden [Lore]

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  • Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024

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  • @Mooclucking
    @Mooclucking 10 лет назад +281

    Kil'jaeden could give the Old Gods a run for their money when it comes to plotting.

    • @bounchofbeaners
      @bounchofbeaners 10 лет назад +31

      yea but even one old god is still far more powerful than Kil'jaeden

    • @mathi497
      @mathi497 10 лет назад +10

      The Burning Legion does not know about the old gods!

    • @Cornelii_Scipiones
      @Cornelii_Scipiones 10 лет назад +19

      Mili Molo It is foolish to belive that the Burning Legion is unaware of it. After all the Dreadlords have been here, on Azeroth for a quite long time. They should sense their presence or something. Nobbel forgot to add the fact that Kael switched sides after he was killed in Outland, I belive that played a crucial part in that.

    • @JrClips27
      @JrClips27 10 лет назад +21

      Mili Molo Sageras himself was the former champion of the titans..when they battled the Old Gods do you not think he would be there ?

    • @Themannemannen
      @Themannemannen 10 лет назад +6

      In terms of cunning and scheming, definitely!

  • @User5973
    @User5973 10 лет назад +123

    Daddy tell me a bedtime story...

  • @KisiroKitsune
    @KisiroKitsune 10 лет назад +24

    The impression I got is that since Medivh's death, Sargeras's spirit has been floating around in the Nether and Kil'jaeden is the current leader of the Legion with Sargeras missing.

    • @maksymilianziele28
      @maksymilianziele28 Год назад +2

      Aren't Kil'jaeden and Archimonde equals in the Burning Legion? Just Archimonde was a general in the Burning Legion and Kil'jaeden took care of bureaucracy. After Archimonde's defeat in Warcraft 3, now Kil'jaeden was an unspoken master of the Burning Legion.

    • @Dezaruu
      @Dezaruu 4 месяца назад

      ​@@maksymilianziele28wdym by bureaucracy

    • @maksymilianziele28
      @maksymilianziele28 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Dezaruu Maybe bureaucracy is a bad word. Rather the rest of things Archimonde was not doing in his military invasions and annihilations, like enslaving others to join their ranks.

  • @xxflatbabyxx
    @xxflatbabyxx 9 лет назад +43

    15:05 "Soon,I will order the invasion to begin.But first...LEMME TAKE A SELFIE!"

    • @kalliw3695
      @kalliw3695 9 лет назад

      Flatbaby I thought that
      Soon I will order the invasion to begin, But first.... LEMME TAKE A SELFIE du uddu du (Me: aww I wish that was what he would say)

  • @bindair_dundat
    @bindair_dundat 10 лет назад +75

    A few expansions later we will probably find out that Kil'Jaeden has legs. It has happened before...

    • @_yndre
      @_yndre 10 лет назад +2

      Firelands ragnaros 2.0
      I want this so bad

    • @lordkiljaeden3887
      @lordkiljaeden3887 10 лет назад +5

      ***** Not the only thing down there dancing around hitting everyone. Muhahahahaha

    • @ulfgaar7724
      @ulfgaar7724 4 года назад +3

      You were right lol

    • @artellius7477
      @artellius7477 4 года назад +1

      Ofc he does, if you play wc3 you'll know it.

    • @warriorsworld4638
      @warriorsworld4638 3 года назад +1

      @@lordkiljaeden3887 Oh god damn it...

  • @PeopleAcct707
    @PeopleAcct707 10 лет назад +33

    I love your lore videos even if I already know the story well already, as in this case. Your storytelling is phenomenal and your love for the tales of Warcraft really shows through. That in combination with the amazing art you find and in game clips and cutscenes makes each video unique and amazing.

  • @UltimateKeyboardHero
    @UltimateKeyboardHero 10 лет назад +18

    So I started watching your videos around 2 days back. Man, this stuff is more addictive than playing WoW. I love lore! Keep up the awesome work! =)

    • @TeeWhy0147
      @TeeWhy0147 Месяц назад

      Hope you're well, ten years later chief!

  • @larsveras4210
    @larsveras4210 10 лет назад +3

    Nobbel! I would like to thank you for all lore videos and videos about WoW in general. You've made the game more fun to play, now that I know more about the lore and the background-stories of the game.
    Thanks man =D

  • @DivineAtheistWannabe
    @DivineAtheistWannabe 4 года назад +45

    So basically the Lich King was an orc....
    So the undead scourge was basically led by an orc
    🤔🤔🤔

    • @maniek2207
      @maniek2207 4 года назад

      And now soul of this orc open a rift to Shadowlands.

    • @demonsnight395
      @demonsnight395 4 года назад +1

      @@maniek2207 nerzhul is long gone by that time

    • @littleshopofeldritchhorror6224
      @littleshopofeldritchhorror6224 4 года назад

      demons night how can you be so sure? Physically he’s not there but his spirit possibly is in some capacity

    • @demonsnight395
      @demonsnight395 4 года назад +1

      @@littleshopofeldritchhorror6224 arthas killed him during his fight for control over the Helm I believe. Nerzhul is dead

    • @jusquanorthwind1016
      @jusquanorthwind1016 3 года назад

      demons night It’s probably that his soul merged with arthas’ and when arthas died in ICC, Ner’zhul died too.

  • @ericsigil
    @ericsigil 10 лет назад +11

    I like how Kel is forced to wander the frozen wastes...of Winterspring lol

  • @MegaChickenfish
    @MegaChickenfish 7 лет назад +1

    This really makes the appreciate the ties between Kil'jaeden and Velen that we saw in the Tomb of Sargeras and to a lesser extent in the tie-in content of the assault on the Exodar during the light-bound object questline.

  • @lianosk
    @lianosk 10 лет назад +19

    Archimode's selfie in the end

    • @DrCornelius
      @DrCornelius 10 лет назад +7

      he was like "so, how do I want to destroy Dalaran... oh! I know! magical runic sandcastles!!"

    • @lianosk
      @lianosk 10 лет назад

      Lol..:D

    • @carlpetersen3147
      @carlpetersen3147 10 лет назад

      Ciro Kerman
      that was arcamode

  • @HodCohen135
    @HodCohen135 10 лет назад +9

    Thank you Nobbel, I was waiting for you to upload so I can watch this while i'm in my bed ^_^

  • @mirakil7636
    @mirakil7636 10 лет назад +31

    Hey Nobbel, could you one day make a lore vid on the Nerubians? That'd be great.

    • @Adirtan
      @Adirtan 10 лет назад +1

      I agree

    • @asdfasdfasdfasdf3229
      @asdfasdfasdfasdf3229 10 лет назад

      If I'm not mistaken I think he may have pseudo covered them. I remember a video he did covering Anu'barak's betrayal.

    • @krasyanev7926
      @krasyanev7926 6 лет назад

      booooooooooooooring

  • @GonzalezEA21
    @GonzalezEA21 9 лет назад +1

    Leveling my fishing in Draenor and watching some Nobbel87! GJ dude keep it up!

  • @InfexiousGaming
    @InfexiousGaming 10 лет назад +1

    Your videos are AWSOME man. Listen to all your lore videos. Would love you to make an arthas audio book to listen to at work

  • @trikxty
    @trikxty 10 лет назад +4

    Once again Nobbel, you have aimed to please, aimed high, and scored. Great video Nobbel! I can't wait to see another one on the girl in the video and Archimonde. I really want to know her story though.

    • @sharangcool
      @sharangcool 10 лет назад

      who? Anveena? There are comics about her and kalecgos. Pretty interesting, try searching for sunwell related comics, i'm sure you'll come across it

    • @trikxty
      @trikxty 10 лет назад +1

      I'd rather watch Nobble make a video about her since I don't follow the comics. :p Thanks though.

  • @MegaChickenfish
    @MegaChickenfish 7 лет назад +5

    18:57 "...I'll kill that hippie druid and Tyrande will finally love you."
    Illidan: Deal.
    20:15 "Northrend was merely a setback!"

  • @Gorvar100
    @Gorvar100 10 лет назад +1

    I like to see Ner'Zhul as Frankenstein's monster of sorts from Kil'Jaeden. The double edged knife can only be as sharp as you make it.

  • @alexion56
    @alexion56 10 лет назад +1

    nice vid as always nobble! keep on with the good work. greetings from peru

  • @azgalorsupremeannihilan4818
    @azgalorsupremeannihilan4818 10 лет назад +8

    we bow to you Kil'jaeden

  • @TonyAirtony
    @TonyAirtony 8 лет назад +1

    You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain, Sargeras.

  • @prestonkeebler4258
    @prestonkeebler4258 10 лет назад +1

    First, great job Nobbell. I'd like to throw some crazy out there. I like to consider WoD more like dimensional travel with a touch of time travel thrown in. If that's the case, that would mean that there's a second Azeroth that could be involved. If Gul'dan is "on the phone" with Kil'jaeden, then that would insinuate that Medivh is doing his part on the alternate Azeroth. I think these sort of circumstances could really open the game to some seriously powerful characters to use. What do you think? Maybe we'll see Medivh as a still corrupted villain? Maybe the alternate Arthas turns out to be a great hero as Ner'zul doesn't go down the same path leading to the Scourge. Just a few thoughts. Thanks for the great videos, keep it up!

  • @EnthrallingBass140
    @EnthrallingBass140 10 лет назад +5

    I have been checking your channel every day for a new video.
    Never stop!! :D

    • @Yondaime8X
      @Yondaime8X 10 лет назад

      He only uploads on certain days.

    • @carlpetersen3147
      @carlpetersen3147 10 лет назад

      lore vids come up sunday night so yea

  • @lordkiljaeden3887
    @lordkiljaeden3887 10 лет назад +43

    HELL YEA! sargeras bless you this day! Thank you Nobbel! The Legion cries victory this day!

    • @kazzaksupreme5807
      @kazzaksupreme5807 10 лет назад +5

      Nice!

    • @mastersargeras8767
      @mastersargeras8767 10 лет назад +8

      Yes i give him my blessing

    • @SoylentGamer
      @SoylentGamer 7 лет назад +2

      haha ur ded

    • @preds43
      @preds43 3 года назад

      @@mastersargeras8767 AND YOU STAY IN THAT FUCKING CHAIR! If you even think about moving, Argus won’t be the only Titan that gets fucking jumped!

  • @PrimxInxTeal
    @PrimxInxTeal 10 лет назад +1

    Epic video, as usual! They get better and better, I swear.

  • @FaeFemboi
    @FaeFemboi Год назад +1

    Just realized that Sargeras being corrupted through fighting the fel demons is very similar in structure to the Dungeons and Dragons cosmology where Zariel and her zealous warrior angel horde were sent to fight the Demons (chaotic evil: just want to eat all souls and destroy everything), and become corrupted by being so close to the source of evil, becoming the very first devils (Lawful evil: Corrupting to gain power but ultimately following all the rules). Really love this kind of trope, honestly.

    • @JimJohnson-st3nv
      @JimJohnson-st3nv Год назад

      He wasn't corrupted by fighting them. He saw demons he had already killed before returning because demons can only die in the nether. So he saw it was a losing fight. And then there's the retcon of seeing old gods corrupting a world soul so wanted to cleanse the entire cosmos and used the demons he'd imprisoned instead if killing after learning they just respawn to make this happen.

  • @KomBackHordz
    @KomBackHordz 10 лет назад +20

    0:30 if a Succubus was that beautyful I wouldn't mind demons.

    • @EmilKlingberg
      @EmilKlingberg 10 лет назад +9

      well they devour your soul to keep them selves attractive and powerful

    • @KomBackHordz
      @KomBackHordz 10 лет назад +4

      *****
      oh like the nyhms and sirens/mermaids :P

    • @bindair_dundat
      @bindair_dundat 10 лет назад +11

      And what is a soul in exchange for the night of your life?

    • @jaimemolina7219
      @jaimemolina7219 10 лет назад +12

      ***** like woman!

    • @KomBackHordz
      @KomBackHordz 10 лет назад +7

      Jaime Molina
      fuckin brilliant xD

  • @stormstrider1990
    @stormstrider1990 10 лет назад +3

    I'm certain the final battle against Kil'jaeden will take place on Argus. It will probably be the most epic boss fight since the Fall of the Lich King. We will receive aid from Velen, the Naaru, Anduin (if Velen's prophecy is true) and possibly Illidan, since Metzen wants to bring him back in a redemption story.

    • @gbgent5802
      @gbgent5802 10 месяцев назад

      gimme the lottery numbers

  • @MegaChickenfish
    @MegaChickenfish 7 лет назад +1

    21:40 Putting it together, I'm betting Kael'thas invisibly decided Illidan had lost his mind about the time when Kil'jaeden showed up to the three of them personally. Like "you expect us to stand against THAT?! Hell no!" and, much like the leader of the nightborne, decided he was better off allying with the Legion and having his people survive.

  • @StephenTube_Gaming
    @StephenTube_Gaming 10 лет назад +1

    Great job. Although I didn't look forward to a second fight against KJ I do look forward to seeing how the story of Draenor unfolds first-hand and hopefully seeing/helping Lothar and Khadgar battle Medivh in Kara.

  • @MangoLeaf9103
    @MangoLeaf9103 10 лет назад +3

    Once again the Lorewalker has given a good story

  • @PixelatedTwix
    @PixelatedTwix 10 лет назад +3

    I think I've watched just about all your WoW lore videos in the past two days. I've obviously enjoyed them! I've been playing the game since BC and never really knew/understood the entire story - basically going from quest to quest and not fully paying attention to the story. It's pretty clear now that I've missed ALOT! Makes me want to go back and level another toon just so I can actually READ the quests. Thumbs up and new subbie!

  • @jmclark841
    @jmclark841 7 лет назад +1

    Azeroth historian extraordinaire. Thanks for reminding me how much I adore this universe. Backstory is everything.

  • @DiadrinArcane
    @DiadrinArcane 10 лет назад +1

    Please, more lore vids! I love listening to you, while playing WoW! You make the game even better! ^^

  • @kazzaksupreme5807
    @kazzaksupreme5807 10 лет назад +17

    Glory to Kil'jaeden!

  • @boomchickn
    @boomchickn 10 лет назад +14

    Could you do a video on troll lore? To clarify more about there whole gods/ loa and about some of the more significants in the different tribes.

  • @WarLord11111111
    @WarLord11111111 10 лет назад +1

    Amazing, I didn't know how much of Kil'jaeden there was in WoW.

  • @SonyCloe
    @SonyCloe 10 лет назад +1

    Amazing video,this really pleased me.The effort you put into this video is clearly there and it has payed off.Thank you :)

  • @VortalexTheDruid
    @VortalexTheDruid 10 лет назад +7

    8:59 How could they have been hiding in Zangarmarsh if during the time the entire zone was just a fungasland under the ocean? Blizzard has made a mistake.

    • @Glitzbound
      @Glitzbound 10 лет назад +4

      ***** Blizzard isn't perfect

    • @Zorc7
      @Zorc7 10 лет назад +1

      otherwise do not forget ogres and Gruul's children who possess most of these areas, so I think they are hidden and that it was difficult for legion's officers de find venel because the ogres of gruul...

    • @Idoser96delete
      @Idoser96delete 10 лет назад +1

      i may be wrong but their base in zangarmarsh is not on the ground, i guess they built it on the water

  • @darcraven01
    @darcraven01 9 лет назад +22

    sounds like in Legion we'll see either Kil'jaeden or Sargeras or both..

    • @budmaam
      @budmaam 9 лет назад

      Or all of them. Wouldn't be surprised.

    • @toasterrobot8566
      @toasterrobot8566 9 лет назад +5

      And i'm sitting here with a poker face, reading this comment, without wow subscription, without having any money to buy one, wishing for a legal private server that my shitty windows XP computer could handle. Listening to how awesome the final Burning legion battle could be

    • @resention8230
      @resention8230 8 лет назад

      +darcraven01 I don't think we'll see Sargeras. If we do, it will be a teaser. There are still some stories left to tell, and if we take out Sargeras, the story basically ends. I do think Kil'jaeden will show up, tho.

    • @darcraven01
      @darcraven01 8 лет назад

      Resention well see, even if we see (and fight) sargeras, that doesnt mean we'll kill him. we could push him back and hold him off without killing him, and that'd let him return at a later date (stronger and more pissed off)...
      though what i was originally thinking was the avatar of sargeras (which has been on azeroth once already).. sry i forgot clarify that in the other post

    • @VerbotenDonkey
      @VerbotenDonkey 8 лет назад

      +Resention I believe we'd have to kill Sargeras in his own realm in order to actually kill him. And I doubt we'd get to do that lol.

  • @BenjayTay
    @BenjayTay 7 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the great work. I really enjoy the videos.
    Could you make annotations in the videos so I couldnt know when the stuff happens? (like in which game?) That would help me get things less confused.

  • @chillytoes1
    @chillytoes1 10 лет назад +1

    great job! i love the entire story and how intertwined it is with all the other stories of azeroth

  • @AFaithMove
    @AFaithMove 4 года назад +5

    When the beings named demons aren’t really “demons” ... when the big red horned guy isn’t really the “devil” ... when the light literally tries to force itself on another living creature despite “free will” ... hmm ...

  • @MrDigmaan
    @MrDigmaan 8 лет назад +3

    I died at at the caption 15:06 "Paul cream Desserts"

  • @Pr1est0fDoom
    @Pr1est0fDoom 7 лет назад +1

    Great work! Thanks for putting together all this information!

  • @concraft9293
    @concraft9293 10 лет назад

    your English is great man, the fact you can site all this information so coherently is pretty amazing.

  • @elliew6765
    @elliew6765 8 лет назад +56

    Warcraft 3 is so terrible, I love it so much
    "COME THEN! YOU'LL FINE WE'RE EVENLY MATCHED."
    *takes 3 swings*
    "We could go on fighting like this _forever_"
    Hasn't even gone through 3 GCD's ;3

  • @flumbaisk
    @flumbaisk 10 лет назад +11

    Shattrath, not Shathra.

  • @Kurisu_Kappsu
    @Kurisu_Kappsu 10 лет назад +1

    Man i love these videos i love learning the lore.

  • @Jpwnage216
    @Jpwnage216 10 лет назад +1

    Thanks this really helped me to understand the WOD plotline.

  • @medeltidsdykaren
    @medeltidsdykaren 10 лет назад +5

    All your videos Nobble makes me wanna start playing again....
    But since all my friends and 95% of my guild has stopped and will prob not come back it would be lonly and boring.... Like a compleat restart. And I dont think I have the stamina to grind/farm my beloved Quel Serra and Quel Delar back in my hands...
    *cry*

    • @MinifigureManiacs
      @MinifigureManiacs 10 лет назад

      I was literally just thinking the same thing then scrolled down and saw your comment ha!

    • @medeltidsdykaren
      @medeltidsdykaren 10 лет назад +2

      I think thats blizzards big problem now. The old playerbase are prob tired of playing after 7 years straight. And new players have too catch up so fast that they miss 2/3 of the game. Not manny now wanna go do old stuff unless its for farming transmogs and if you make misstakes in groups there is atleast one guy who will pick on you and abuse your playstyle... Or they kick you faster then you can say Kil'Jaeden!
      Its so sad warcraft have come to this point.... Perhaps its to big now...

    • @Rellana1
      @Rellana1 10 лет назад

      I'd like to come back to experience the new expansion as I didn't like the entire Pandaren expansion at all,but grinding up a new character as I deleted my account that's too much work for my liking.

    • @medeltidsdykaren
      @medeltidsdykaren 10 лет назад

      Well, they will give you a lvl 90 boost....

    • @Rellana1
      @Rellana1 10 лет назад

      Still the reason I left was I got tired of the grinding quests as they offered no variety that I could see at the time. Unless that's changed I can't see myself enjoying the game as a whole.
      Same thing with the dungeons,they offered no variety after a certain point.

  • @Warxoth
    @Warxoth 10 лет назад +3

    Knowing all of this really puts Arthas like just another stubborn child, don't know why everyone wet their panties over him.

    • @Kravenrogue
      @Kravenrogue 3 года назад

      You are not From the time of Warcraft 3 Right?

  • @Mazzmaker69
    @Mazzmaker69 10 лет назад +17

    Nobbel, just give us the Arthas/Lich King lore video, you know you want to.

    • @Dragonfu666
      @Dragonfu666 10 лет назад

      That'd be badass!
      If it wasn't an hour and a half though, it wouldn't be redeeming enough of a story for such a badass.

    • @flufychickens
      @flufychickens 10 лет назад +15

      just play warcraft 3 campaign

    • @Dragonfu666
      @Dragonfu666 10 лет назад

      Warcraft 3 campaign is not enough.
      You need to read a ton more to get Arthas's full story. A
      And then play WoW ontop of all that.

    • @63Limar
      @63Limar 10 лет назад

      flufychickens I heared in some books there was a story about what could happend if Arthas decided not to follow Mal'Ganis.

  • @djvesko
    @djvesko 10 лет назад +1

    I just love this older history of pre-WoW, vanilla & TBC!

  • @liviuirimia0904
    @liviuirimia0904 10 лет назад +3

    ok, titans are the shappers of worlds in the wow universe, but who are the first masters of darkness? who created the demon present in the universe (in the time of the titans, the ones that sargeras was fighting)

    • @preds43
      @preds43 3 года назад

      We basically got our answer. Demons are just manifestations of Fel energy, and are also malformed beings of Light and Shadow. We also know that the Dreadlords were apparently not native to the Nether at all, and seemed to have originated in Revendreth instead. And, prior to Sargeras’ corruption, they assumed the top positions over the Nether, as the force of Disorder never really...had a god nor a pantheon...since it’s disorder, etc.
      The apparent “masters of shadow” are the Void Lords, and we’re also going to hear more about the First Ones, which are heavily implied to have made the entire Warcraft Cosmos, and not just the Shadowlands.

  • @sirjj3123
    @sirjj3123 7 лет назад +3

    How does a demonlord of a previous planet think that he can overcome a previous Titan?

  • @N1tr0p0ll
    @N1tr0p0ll 10 лет назад +1

    Love that you take the time to make these videos, look forward to them every week! Keep it up :D

  • @Darkness191
    @Darkness191 10 лет назад +1

    when kil'jaeden was summoned threw the sunwell, there is a good chance that even that was not enough magical power to fully summon him and bring his full power threw. after all he does not completly go threw. It is possible that we will fight Kil'jaeden and/or Archimonde in the next expansion at full power

  • @christianlaursen3234
    @christianlaursen3234 10 лет назад +4

    Hey dude Can you ples tel about the taurens history ??????

  • @Kyyp3r
    @Kyyp3r 9 лет назад +5

    Two quick questions: first, if Kil'jaeden shares the same origin with the dranei, why is he like 30m taller? The second, when the new guy put on the lich king's crown, did he fuse with the lich king and arthas or just the lich king?

    • @ThallanarRabidtooth
      @ThallanarRabidtooth 9 лет назад +7

      First question - Kil'jaedan was infused with demonic power, it's easy to assume he just grew larger, and stronger because of it. Second question - It is speculated that Ner'zhul infused with Arthas when Arthas put the Crown of Domination on. When Arthas was defeated, we assumed it also killed what remained of Ner'zhul, in doing so, Bolvar Fordragon, the New Lich King, is not corrupted and acts on his own will. The new Lich King is meant to keep the Scourge in check, so that they don't go running around in chaos and destroy Azeroth. It's still pretty difficult to imagine a Lich King that isn't a villain, but Bolvar is that person, he died a good man, and is still a good man despite being the leader of the Scourge.

    • @sudowoodo9579
      @sudowoodo9579 9 лет назад

      Thallanar Rabidtooth i doubt kil'jaden (i think he did it) would make the lich king die after 1 person.

    • @goran77ish
      @goran77ish 9 лет назад

      Every boss in WoW is lot larger then it should be. That is for us to think that is the boss. Example, Arthas (Lich king), or if you want just normal guy Garrosh. They are huge and should be same size as normal human/orc. That is for game mechanic to, I guess.

    • @Kyyp3r
      @Kyyp3r 9 лет назад

      goran77ish I'm not sure, Kil'jaeden was bigass even in warcraft 3, while Ilidan or Arthas had a more normal size

    • @goran77ish
      @goran77ish 9 лет назад

      Kyyp3r That is true. Archimond to, May be becuse they have been empowered by fallend titan so they may be sized as titans by doing so.

  • @hevenlytemplar
    @hevenlytemplar 10 лет назад +1

    Great video as always nobbel, very accurate! I would really love to see a "Scarlet Crusade" lore video as I've always found their lore kinda confusing. Thanks again and keep up the good work :D

  • @MegaChickenfish
    @MegaChickenfish 7 лет назад +1

    This reminds me how awesome Ner'zhul's story was and how I'm sad we never really got a continuation of his subtle machinations as the Lich King against the Burning Legion. _Then again_ , what if Arthas's death freed Ner'zhul as well?
    This is just reminding me how I need to watch your vids on the death knight storyline, as I've heard rumors that you meet the new lich king during it.

  • @Monoriss
    @Monoriss 10 лет назад +4

    Question for Nobbel87. Do you think it is possible for the WarCraft movie that we expect to go out in 2016 to Put all this story in a 3 hour scenario ? My personal opinion, HELL NO ! Yet it will be cool to see :D

    • @Nobbel87
      @Nobbel87  10 лет назад +1

      Haha would be a challenge! I think the movie is going to focus on orc/alliance so we might see this background, but not in huge detail.

    • @bindair_dundat
      @bindair_dundat 10 лет назад

      That movie is never coming out. Especially if wow kills itself before 2016 with ideas like WoD.

    • @TheJmaillard1
      @TheJmaillard1 10 лет назад +5

      Wlarius please don't write anything anymore u make my eyes bleed.

    • @nubfail
      @nubfail 10 лет назад +3

      Wlarius I supposed you thought BC was going to kill wow, along with age of conan, rift, swotor, terra, etc...

    • @bindair_dundat
      @bindair_dundat 10 лет назад

      Xarion No, that is why I said "wow kills itself". Try to read more carefully before replying.

  • @m8jin12
    @m8jin12 10 лет назад +7

    i need my WarCraft 4 , blizzard cant u fit in wc4 inbetween the lore or something , if wc4 is half the game wc3 was it will be best the game in 2010-2019 , WarCraft 3 is the Greatest PC game to Grace us , how can a game be so good that it gives birth to other games like (Dota, LoL ,Tower Defense, Footman etc ) ,
    At its peak they were 11 million + people playing WC3 dota alone , just one mini-game within the game , and millions other playing Ladder, other Customs games.

    • @ArgentumEmperio
      @ArgentumEmperio 10 лет назад

      One problem tho'...
      Why is Warcraft 3 such a great game? The mechanics were solid by its time and models really, really good and well balanced across all the races (as far as I'm aware)... but people praise WC3 for two things in particular: the expanding on the already established Warcraft universe from the two previous games with their expansions; and the custom games.
      The Warcraft universe is still expanding but is doing so in World of Warcraft (believe it or not... World of Warcraft takes place in the Warcraft-universe... stunning, huh?) and every ounce of lore we got from WC3 has been expanded into the cleansing of corrupt furbolgs, the fall of Netharion, the fall of Illidan, the fall of the Lich King, the coronation of a new Lich King, the fall of Deathwing, the dragon aspects losing their power... an entire new continent appearing from the mists and proof of there being random gigantic seaturtles swimming around in the oceans!
      To create 'Warcraft 4' now would be dumb... they already got Starcraft for RTS fans and for those that loved Warcraft exists the lore of Warcraft in World of Warcraft... and the custom games becoming their own games as well as the free-version of the arcade for SC. To create Warcraft 4 now makes no sense unless you want Starcraft but with a fantasy setting...

    • @bindair_dundat
      @bindair_dundat 10 лет назад +1

      They can't while wow is running. If they base it on wow events it will be boring and spoiled. If they base it between wow events it will be irrelevant. If they base it after wow events then wow will be spoiled. If they disregard wow and base the story on a different reality then wow will be irrelevant. There is no good choice.

    • @bach0r
      @bach0r 10 лет назад +2

      I would love to see redone WC 1,2,3 with on new SC2/Heroes of the Storm engine with bonus missions or maybe even bonus campaigns/expansions

    • @ArgentumEmperio
      @ArgentumEmperio 10 лет назад

      bachorek potworek So basically 'SC2 but in a fantasy setting' ... just like I replied before

    • @m8jin12
      @m8jin12 10 лет назад

      ***** u made a good point early , and the way wow is going it has a good 6-7 years left in its lifetime , just have to wait

  • @cuthian18
    @cuthian18 10 лет назад +1

    Love the warcraft lore and your videos are perfect :) thank you :)

  • @raulgoncalves4264
    @raulgoncalves4264 10 лет назад +1

    I just can´t put in words how much I love this channel!!

  • @CynicalGamingBlogTerry309
    @CynicalGamingBlogTerry309 10 лет назад +25

    I hope WOW doesn't make anymore expansions, i don't want to see them kill off Kil'jaeden because it is stupid to even believe mere mortals could kill someone with that amount of power. Archimonde was an exception, the night elves had to sacrifice their immortality to kill him, but how would they possibly defeat Kil'jaeden? He has a portion of Sargeras' power and he's even more talented than Archimonde, plus he is no fool. I'm just sick of Paladin X sending in a raid group to face ridiculously powerful Villain Y, Warcraft had so much potential after Warcraft 3 and Blizzard threw it all away by making characters godlike.

    • @paullambert3836
      @paullambert3836 10 лет назад +5

      without the expansions wow'd be dead already, blizzard are stupid? they made a online game not only survived and but also been #1 mmorpg for 10 years
      stories always serve gameplay, gameplay always serve sales, im tired of explaining this, just enjoy what you are giving, if you dont change to another game, they survive on how many new players they attract, old players will leave eventually, whether they release expansions or not

    • @CynicalGamingBlogTerry309
      @CynicalGamingBlogTerry309 10 лет назад +1

      monotonous
      thanks for the pointless and needless lecture, we're all well aware how the industry works.
      Point is, i hate what WOW did to the lore. I stopped playing the warcraft series ages ago for this reason. That doesn't stop me from being vocal about it though.

    • @paullambert3836
      @paullambert3836 10 лет назад

      brainjuice654 point is, they dont care about what you hate or think in general, they will continue to kill kil'kaeden or whoever you like as long as people buy it.
      and point is, i dont care you or whoever you call "we" understand or not, which apparently you didnt until i lectured you

    • @CynicalGamingBlogTerry309
      @CynicalGamingBlogTerry309 10 лет назад

      monotonous you don't think i know that? i'm being vocal about it, doesn't mean it's gonna happen. Then you keep lecturing me about pointless crap that i already know. I am well aware as to why wow still exists.

    • @glardian966
      @glardian966 10 лет назад

      The story of the underdog miraculously beating the obnoxiously overpowered villain never gets old to some.

  • @firetarrasque4667
    @firetarrasque4667 6 лет назад +3

    So... Sargeras turned evil because evil exists.*WOW.*

  • @MrNileX
    @MrNileX 10 лет назад +1

    Love it Nobbel, cannot wait for Archimonde!

  • @MrKhulaid
    @MrKhulaid 9 лет назад +1

    Love your videos! Thank you for taking the time putting these videos together. Great job

  • @DarkTider
    @DarkTider 10 лет назад +8

    To clarify something you were confused about, namely the "power struggle" within the burning legion:
    Sargearas is currently dead. After he was slain by Aegwynn and possessed medivh, he was subsequentely killed by Lothar and friends, ending Sargearas for the time being, something which a lot of players completely fail to understand.
    Sargearas may exsist in spiritual form, but a bit like sauron between the two wars, he is unable to affect the physical world and is effectively GONE, DEAD, AND BURIED.
    Kil'jaeden is currently the leader of the burning legion, filling out the vacuum left by Sargearas' demise, hence his statement at the end of sunwell plateau, insinuating that while he may be the de-facto leader of the burning legion at the moment, that position is apparently challenged by certain members of the burning legion and therefore he seems to be trying to consolidate his position and remove all doubt.
    Hope this clarified things a bit for you :)

    • @Caedus696
      @Caedus696 10 лет назад +2

      Except that this is all speculation, because no one on Azeroth has seen the true Sargeras, the Avatar was hinted to just be a piece of Sargeras' soul not his whole being. For all we know he could still be very active, it is not like Kil'jaeden the master manipulator is gonna share his masters plans with us. You could be right, but I think he is just kinda out of it right now. Gul'dan was knocked out for days when he simply tried to peak into Medivh/Sarg's mind at the time of his death, so imagine how much longer that would effect the rest of Sargeras if a piece of himself was dragged into death.

    • @chrisarbour
      @chrisarbour 10 лет назад +7

      False Sargeras isn't dead his Avatar was the one that fought Aegwynn not the literal form of Sargeras. Lore wise his physical form has yet to be killed. So you're way off. If Aegwynn fought the actual sargeras she wouldn't had stood a chance. The strength of 100 dragons is merely a fraction of his power he can only be wounded by immortal or legendary weapons. He's the god of death. No way in hell a single mage can kill him.

    • @Caedus696
      @Caedus696 10 лет назад +2

      chrisarbour Translation, welfare legendary weapons at the end of the final expac :P

    • @chrisarbour
      @chrisarbour 10 лет назад

      Nicholas Cannaday Hopefully not i don't want to fight sargeras there are some things in the warcraft universe we can't compete with and i don't want them to come up with a way for us either. I'll quit if it comes to that.

    • @Caedus696
      @Caedus696 10 лет назад

      chrisarbour I wouldn't go that far. For one Brox was able to harm Sargeras so that is evidence enough that while he is a "god" he is capable of being harmed, and two we have already fought C'thun and Yog Saron back into torpor according to the lore it took 100 titans just to fight down one Old God into the state we have them at now.

  • @Nemenon
    @Nemenon 10 лет назад +4

    I just thought of something. What if since Kil'Jeaden is in a power struggle against Sargeras he tries to actually take him on himself, except he only weakens Sargeras and is nearly killed by him. Kil'Jeaden manages to escape after dealing a blow to Sargeras that stunned him (similar to what Broxigar did), but he is greatly wounded as well so he retreats to somewhere safe. After seeing him in his weakened state one of his followers could turn against him, feeling he is no longer fit to command since he had hardly any power left after his sparring with Sargeras. He could perhaps create a portal from our world to his so we can flow through it and finish the weakened Kil'Jeaden, and his defeat/death will lead us to where we could find the wounded Sargeras. And with the lost titan on our side (the guy the Thunder King talks about), we could take the fight to Sargeras at his home world. Perhaps this is when Illidan returns and joins us, and afterwards disappears forever, or gets killed during the fight. We wouldn't be able to finish off Sargeras but we would basically ruin him, he would have such little power and he would have to retreat to some remote planet where he couldn't be reached. Or maybe one of the other Titans shows up and metes out justice. Definitely something fun to think about.

    • @Mazzmaker69
      @Mazzmaker69 10 лет назад +3

      I so don't want the Titans showing up, atleast not as some form of heroes. I've always seen the Titans as a group of dictatorial overlords who don't give a damn about their creations as long as order is upheld.
      I wanna see an order vs chaos fight where both sides are out to crush everyone on Azeroth.

    • @Nemenon
      @Nemenon 10 лет назад

      Mazzmaker69 Sargeras is a Titan, and he betrayed them. I'm pretty sure the Pantheon is quite pissed about that because he is undoing all of their work. They worked very hard to keep order in the universe and Sargeras is the only thing in their way of that now. Why wouldn't they intervene? This story isn't just about Azeroth and us, its a whole universe packed full of content.

    • @War3pl
      @War3pl 10 лет назад

      Okay, so lets start from beginning. Kil'Jaden is like a feather to Sargeras (when he had body, etc), he couldn't cope against him, even think about it. He tool over Burning Legion ONLY because Sargeras is lost in Twisting Nether without body. It wasn't any sort of power struggle, tho Kil'Jaden might have wanted to take over whole Burning Legion but standing against Sargeras is more stupid than suicide.
      There is no "home world" of Sargeras to be known, simply because he was/is one of Titans. They travel through space, make world, shape them and creatures on them, but not have "home", so we cant bring fight to this place. It was Ra-Den who said about "final titan", not Lei Shen (thunder king). Even if prophecy of Velen is true, keep in mind what Naaru and even Morgraine (Ashbringer) said - Can there be Light without Darkness? How do You think killing Titan is even possible? Every tryed to kill Elune? They are WAY above her acording to lore, and she is said to be goddes. Wounding, maybe improsoning, but not killing. I dont think even titans can kill other titan. After all, they had battle between them (Sargeras vs Aggramar, when he shattered his titan sword into 2 pieces and vields now only one of them) both were standing, tho condition is unknown.

    • @Nemenon
      @Nemenon 10 лет назад +1

      Krzysztof Winiarczyk You don't understand, the power struggle is that Kil'Jaedens wants to command the burning legion, as stated in this video. Right now Sargeras isn't that strong because of everything that has happened to him, but Kil'Jaeden is probably at full power by now (or close to it), which means he could probably deal a bit of damage to him if it came down to it. I'm sure Sargeras isn't too happy with the idea of Kil'Jaeden trying to take over as the master of the burning legion. And if a simple orc can strike a blow against a Titan, then what is stopping a demon lord? The Naruu aren't as powerful as we think, just like at Mu'ru (or however its spelled), he was corrupted and then destroyed by mere mortals. If they had any real power don't you think they would have helped Velen defeat Kil'Jaeden and Archimonde in the first place to save his people? Just look at the Old Gods, they are kind of like the evil counterpart to the Titan, even the Titans struggle against them and we as mortals were able to finish them off when they were in their weakened state. There will always be darkness due to the Old Gods, there is much more evil out there than just Sargeras, he is probably nothing compared to the evil of the Old Gods. Currently they have been pushed back quite well and aren't an imminent threat at the moment, but they were defeated. C'Thun, Yogg'Sargon, N'zoth, and probably even more that I don't know about. Theres a place in WoW that you can go to (I think its desolace) where lies the skeletons of 2 giant monster-like creatures, and the wiki says they could possibly be Old Gods but nobody knows for sure yet. Nothing is unkillable, everything has a weakness and everything can die. And I'm sure even Titans can die.

    • @War3pl
      @War3pl 10 лет назад +1

      Nemenon
      The power struggle Sargeras Kil'Jaden might be happening right now, thats point i agree on, but You recall Brox as orc capable of wounding evil Titan. Do You remember why he was able to? Because he wielded axe created with very power of Azeroth itself, even if tiny bit. As War of the Anciets states it was nothing more than insect bite. At this moment Sargeras dont have body to get wounded so this gets out of theorycraft (till he recovers). As with Naaru - Mu'ru was not corupted, he was drained of light, by creatures attuned to very nature of magic. There is similar Naaru (D'ore i think) who went through similar process as his life cycle, but was not drained but wounded and became "black hole" for spirits, and void alike. But he recovered at least in some portion (seen in Auchenai Crypts). With Mu'ru's case keep in mind that Blood Elves are very potent magic users, especialy arcane arts which are close to "core" of magic. Also, You seem to forget that Light is not to be used to attack, even against forces of darkens. It allows to be used to PROTECT, not attack directly. Naaru are beengs of light but aren't made of Light (capital intended). Have You seen Naaru attacking anybody without intend to protect ? Even righteous fury of Paladins is caused by will to protect, as Light may abbadon its user as well as come uncalled. About old gods. One is known to be trully dead, BUT he still have his avatar (Darkshore questline). So I belive its body is dead but his ... essence is still alive somewhere. Just as C'thun who was to be resurected before Cataclysm by Cho'Gal. We were able to kill body, not the whole Old God. I never said that Titans or Old Gods are trully immortal, but its unheard of that any of them died for good. Even Cenarius got brough back amont with some Anciets after all. Desolace skeletons are probably from avatars of old gods or their servant in my opinion, not actual old ones.

  • @fu_ck1
    @fu_ck1 10 лет назад +1

    You'r great mr. nobbel, keep up the awesome content :)

  • @tompafriman7600
    @tompafriman7600 10 лет назад +1

    hey man i would love to see an video on all the windrunners, adn i know you have made one on alleria but i like to see the other aswell :D keep up good work

  • @MrJustinArt
    @MrJustinArt 10 лет назад +1

    If (or rather _when_ considering it's a pretty big part of the history of Warcraft) you do lore on Arthas be sure to include how he *_barely_* won in the duel against Illidan.

  • @Ombladoonn
    @Ombladoonn 10 лет назад +1

    This series are awesome, keep up the good work.

  • @douglasnysether7963
    @douglasnysether7963 10 лет назад +1

    Nicely done once again. And you actually managed to indirectly tell a story I had asked about. The origin of warlocks. I would however like to know how the alliance came to wield their power :)

  • @arhangeltango8131
    @arhangeltango8131 10 лет назад +1

    Nobbel, I would like a respond for this question.
    Can you make a lore about Sen'Jin if there is any information you have? After you finish with all these Burning Legion & Sargeras stuff. Please

  • @razvanagafitei502
    @razvanagafitei502 10 лет назад +1

    awesome video, can't wait for the next one

  • @voldbane
    @voldbane 10 лет назад +1

    Nobbel,
    First off, I enjoy the vids, good job and keep it up!
    So onto my request for some vids..
    With your depth of knowledge from research and future research, I'd like to see you do some videos on the villains and heroes of WoW lore pitted against one another. Based on how thorough you are I feel like you'd do a good job of a mock battle between them.
    Full powered Lich King with Frostmourne vs Kil'jaeden or Deathwing vs. Sargeras, Varok Saurfang vs Garrosh Hellscream or any of the other Warlords of Draenor Warlords.
    Second question..
    What ever happened to Varok Saurfang taking out Garrosh anyway? Didn't he say that if Garrosh were to ever bring the horde down a dark path like they once were, he'd kill him? That was a conversation bewtween them in Warsong Hold during WotLK expansion. What are your thoughts on this, will we see Saurfang get that chance in WoD?! Or will Blizzard likely miss this detail..

  • @Aj9Livess
    @Aj9Livess 9 лет назад

    You have the greatest voice for narration. I could listen to it for hours B)

  • @memphisahn4372
    @memphisahn4372 10 лет назад +1

    I love these videos, they are really well done!

  • @bexa9011
    @bexa9011 9 лет назад +2

    Look at the panda face on illidans warglavies. lol

  • @TheWolfwiththeDragon
    @TheWolfwiththeDragon 10 лет назад +1

    8:30 Actually, I think they had already drinked the demon blood when they attacked the Black Temple. If you look on the trailer for patch 2.1, they are already green.

    • @KisiroKitsune
      @KisiroKitsune 10 лет назад

      It was after. In Rise of the Horde, Mannoroth poured his blood into the temple's courtyard.

  • @zPauLoma
    @zPauLoma 8 лет назад +1

    Awesome job and very well done, thanks.

  • @DecayedPony
    @DecayedPony 10 лет назад +1

    Rise of the Horde is a book that everyone who plays wow should read, especially with the upcoming xpac.

  • @Ijjigunzhack
    @Ijjigunzhack 10 лет назад +1

    This story telling... So good, I can't stop watching

  • @SimosTsitoglou
    @SimosTsitoglou 10 лет назад

    Once again, very good lore vid Nobbel87!! BTW, at 21:03 ... I don't really believe Arthas let Illidan alive just because of that. I think he did it so Illidan will slow down both the Horde and the Alliance as long as the Lich King will be perparing his Scourge Army in Northrend. Once again, coold job bro! BTW, is the Kel'Thusaz part at 11:55 ingame somewhere? Cheers!

  • @Be_Gee
    @Be_Gee 10 лет назад

    about time we get a nice lore for a while

  • @Bobbybutter05
    @Bobbybutter05 10 лет назад +1

    Hey Nobbel, i have a question. Who are the celestials and where do they come from? how long have they been alive and why have they never helped with any of the events in world of warcraft if they have been here a while? Thanx man love your vids and keep it up!:D

  • @shemjacobs7938
    @shemjacobs7938 10 лет назад +1

    one thing I never learned from playing through Northrend is why exactly Arthus started using Frostmourne and why he put in the helm of damnation, etc. Nobel, is it possible for you to do one

  • @thomasdr08
    @thomasdr08 8 лет назад +1

    I need an actual animated movie of the corruption of sargeras and the creation of the burning legion. All of this stuff would make one incredible miniseries... And probably would sell more subscriptions!

  • @Deal101
    @Deal101 10 лет назад +1

    I really love your lore telling noble keep it up :)

  • @1upGAMERX
    @1upGAMERX 8 лет назад +1

    I'm sure we will see Kil'jaeden again in Legion. And I have a feeling that the Lich King will be reawakened one day

  • @alexihonen6815
    @alexihonen6815 10 лет назад

    VIDEO ABOUT AHN'KAHET and the Nerubians!
    Its a thing bothering me for a long time about Ny'alotha and The Old Kingdom... Ny'alotha is a city of Old under the deeps... but Ahn'Kahet is the Kingdom of Nerubians worshipping old gods... Yogg Saron was in Ulduar and he enslaved the Iron Dwarves. But if the Nerubians would have worshipped Yogg Saron, wouldnt he have summoned the Nerubians to Ulduar ?
    So my suspicions goes that in Ahn'Kahet is either something more... or just more bugs... Facinating!
    And love your vids Nobbel :) Sterkte!

  • @christhomas6571
    @christhomas6571 10 лет назад +1

    Hey nobbel :D just wanted to say thanks so much for your vids they are very cool and interesting was wondering if you could do a video on illadan *sorry for miss spelling* and maybe even his brother? again thanks for the vids nobbel keep em coming!

  • @MrGreatevil
    @MrGreatevil 10 лет назад +1

    I always imagined that Ner'zul were traveling planets for some time before he was found by Kill. There are milions of worlds in the univers and i doubt that Ner'Zul were so unlucky to pick one with Kill residing. Is there a chance that my vision could become true ? or is there written somewhere that Kill were waiting for Ner'zul at the other side of portal ?

  • @toughman118
    @toughman118 9 лет назад +1

    Hey man i love your stuff! Always give it a thumbs up! Just wondering, which lore video where you stated the Old Gods might have something to do with manipulating Arthas/Guldan as their armor was made with their blood, or something like that, it was very interesting and i cant seem to find it! Would love if u could send me a link or something. Thanks! And nice work!

  • @wearegogeta9974
    @wearegogeta9974 4 года назад

    Ner’zul is the Lich King? Okay. You learn something new every day.