N'Zoth - Villains Corner (WoW Lore)
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- In today's episode of the villains corner we will be going over the lore of the fourth old God to appear in game N'zoth.
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When N'Zoth got released from his prison for the first time. I thought he was going to get his own expansion. He wins in the end of BFA and we have to pick up the pieces in the next expansion. How they built up Ny'alotha like it's some outer twisted world to explore like Outlands.
Yeah I think everyone was expecting that
But blizzard don't want their precious little walking wallets to LOSE no no no
@@zsoltsiro1310 If it was just a matter of money and everybody wanted this, why wouldn't they do that? Your logic makes no sense.
In the end it was a raid and we won trough the power of mcguffins
@Samthewayne Yeah, or that. Ny'alotha could've been in Shadowlands as a zone at least. Give it a lovecraftian feel to it and how Slyvansas beat the Lich King with these new powers pulled out of her ass would made more sense to me if it was N'Zoth that gave her these powers. I can imagine him manipulating her and what she thinks is doing the right thing. Twisting her mind to madness to want we see her today. I always thought N'Zoth was one that tricked Vol'jin to making Slyvnsas Warchief.
Yeah, and at this point from a lore point i think the "champions of azeroth" need to get a real loss even if only a brief one
I feel bad that N'zoth had his 3 plans failed ):
he really set it all up well and timed it perfectly
yep, this is sad blizz decided to stop it right there, his masterplan would have succeeded, N'zoth would have bringed Nyaloth'a to Azeroth mortal realm and then could have summoned C'thuun and Yog completly unleashed. But I guess blizz decided it was more interesting doing an expansion on a character we never heard about and our favorite most hated Mary Sue. BFA ending could have been a defeat, making it an interresting moral point of view where the horde and Alliance were too busy fighting each other for the scraps of Azeroth, Magni warning us through the whole expac that Azeroth state was critical...
@@Oodychannel I think there is still a high possibility of Ny'alotha coming back. There is still a large piece of N'Zoth out there that hasn't been touched. I have a theory that there will be about a 5-10 year time skip when we come back from the Shadowlands, and N'Zoth will have returned and most if not all of the world will be Ny'alotha.
It's ok, he is a bit of a dick :O
You dont know, maybe we are in a vision of him and hes the reall boss of shadowlands... who knows.
N’Zoth: I feel like this is a good time to enact The Hour Of Twilight!
Me: Oh yes, it’s a great time considering Wrath had 12M+ Players.
Tfw you realize N’zoth got killed by literally me and the bois
Got killed by a Cinematic*
C’thun and Yogg Saron as well
This is what kinda bugged me about N'zoth... He seemingly had a hand in so much, and his ultimate appearance and subsequent defeat happens all too quickly.
That's the new blizzard for you
Like the 4th war,or ashara...or BFA
It really felt like BFA was zooming through too many themes. N'zoth essentially orchestrated the entire Cataclysm, he's cunningly had a hand in different events that spanned several expansions, his build up and influence in the greater over-arcing plot is insane, and then in one patch he's introduced and then killed.
Just one more intersting thing, I'd like to add: "N'zoth" is actually the translation of the english word "seeker" into Shath'Yat, the language of the old gods.
You can check it yourself, if you want. Just say the word "seeker" as a shadow priest during void form. It will come out as "N'zoth".
However, I did not find this out myself. I got the info from one of Pyromancer's videos.
Basically: Villains aren't allowed to win because plot armor
Wow's writing is always gonna be a slave of the need for conflict that drives its gameplay format. The player characters will never truly lose. The horde and alliance will never truly reach a truce. The big bads will never win. It's just gameplay but... spiced up with quest text
If you could work with the Old Gods, to bring them back to life, and have a huge raid where you have to kill them all in their own respective areas
@@teratoph that's a low blow, you can still make it smart and spice things up by going around or something
@@eafesaf6934 oh no I completely agree and crave good content in a game I'm emotionally invested in but... let's be realistic with blizz's current track record
@@teratoph Hehehe true that..
There's stained glass of Nzoth inside Ulduar at General Vezax room, I'm sure that's one of the first sightings of him
also there is one of Y'shaaraj
We still didn’t know what it was at the time though so it’s like seeing a giant squid. We knew it existed but some time later we got confirmation.
Pretty sure Blizz said that it was not planned.
@@yoanhristov4120 Agreed, there's also stained glass showing mermaids and there are no mermaids on Azeroth.
@@cujoedaman no mermaids yet on Azeroth
I feel kinda bad for N'Zoth, like basically all of his plans failed and he got the title of 'weakest old god'.
He is the weakest, but he is super intelligent. I feel bad that all of his plans failed :(
he is smart, definitely a schemer, but really have nothing on yogg, who corrupted the titan keepers, broke most of the seals of his prison, corrupted the emerald dream and was going to use that to get free once the forge of origination wiped out the planet and used the dream as backup
@@zennim125 technically he tricked Loken instead of corrupting him and pretty much placed him on a situation where he had to help Yogg
@@highbahamut6188 same thing really, he didn't taint the keeper with the void, he corrupted him in the regular sense, making him act selfishly
A villain that deserves an entire expansion dedicated to, only got lazered due to budget contraints...
Well, hopefully a few years down the line he will be back, like Rag, Illidan, Guldan, Arthas, Malganis and etc.
the only thing i see coming back is Illidan, Arthas and Malganis the others are gone for good
iHaveGrudgeAgainstUT he’s most likely in the blade that Wrathion uses, considering the previous host is no longer in it.
@@tylerp5259 This might seeem like a silly objection, but personally I don't think something as large as N'zoth could be contained in a blade.... more like his echo, something more akin to Il'gynoth than anything else
@@racimramzi1691 Illidan was dead for good until the writer decided otherwise, the same with Malganis, he already came back in Legion, and Arthas is comfirmed to come back in Shadowlands
@@racimramzi1691 Anyone can come back, because it's a freaking fantasy world. Nothing is real or important for Blizzard, because the story is just a icing on Blizzard's billion dollar business. Most dumbest of the WoW playerbase (lore fans) have yet to realize it.
“I swear, he says N-zoth, one more time..”
0:06 “N’zoth”
Okay, I stay
I made sure to have a big fat note at the top of the script with a reminder on how to pronounce his name
1:39
WHY DID YOU MAKE HIM LOOK SO CUTE
Smol'zoth
Thank you Hiru for explaining and Rachel for the nice art
This super accurate to the game lore and I hope more folks see it, this is why as for now it would have been point less for an old god expansions, nzoth for all his hype wasn't that powerful and was constantly beat at every turn by adventurer also we had an old god expansion with Cataclysm.
I completely agree nzoth alone isn't powerful enough for a whole expansion, but I think if all the old gods worked together they would be powerful enough for a whole expansion. That's why I hope they free themselves while we go to the Shadowlands and we come back to a revamped world in a Black Empire expansion.
@@austinfilms1007 this I agree with, that would be super hype
Also, isn’t it said somewhere by Sylvanas that Nzoth would be defeated and it would power the shadowlands boss even more? That to me makes nzoth seem like he really is the weaker old god if his defeat is so easily determined.
Austin Films too bad they got retconned and are dead now
@@calebpetrie2206 if I remember, c'thun is sorta dead. Yog was kinda just, punched back into prison.
5:08
I've seen enough old gods to know where this is going.
When the video is actually better then the IN GAME character... :D
Hey, remember when they told us that you couldn't kill the Old Gods, because it would doom Azeroth?
Peperidge Farm remember. Blizzard writters did not
@@Destroyer2150 we have never killed an old God. Merely slain their physical manifestations and pushed them back into their prisons when they were at the brink of escaping
Destroyer2150 as figerus said, we dont really know if nzoth is dead... so blizzard can retcon the retcon for another expansion.
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@@etienne826 Even if we killed n'zoth he wasn't on Azeroth, he was in ny'alotha.
RIP N'Zoth. You and your kin will be missed. :(
I love these videos so much! Your narration and the simple art style come together to make something special!
N'zoth: *curses!*
Also i really really really love this series, your research is always on point and accurate, ty for making those and Rachel for the amazing drawings!
Awesome video and one of the main reasons I've subbed to your channel. I actually don't even play WoW anymore but I'm a hardcore lore nerd and can't get enough of these character deep dives.
This makes N'Zoth's ending seem realistic compared to what the average player knows of in game
It technically took Azeroth's powers to completely wipe out N'zoth while C'thun and Yogg-Saron were "left dead as corpses."
Sorry but this is the second time you've said that Ra-den created the Titan Facilities when it was Mimiron and Archaedas who did.
ok I think I misread that part when doing research then. It seems Ra-den just installed them
Man... easily could’ve been a whole expansion about this guy
Battle for Azeroth seemed to be a "Lost" expansion
He exemplifies that you can do everything right and still lose, he has to be the most savvy villain to date what with having multiple plans that are completely independent from each other and each being the same amount of success.
of course he kind of neglected to keep in mind that things like the elemental incarnation of water, the freaking world tree and a superweapon made by the beings that could pop him like a pimple, may perhaps be a bit more than his minions can handle. and that structurally compromising his attack dragon that was already falling apart for millenia may have undesired results.
He absolutely did not neglect any of these things considering that his minions were the best of best he could send out and were one of the most powerful strike forces azaroth has ever seen. As a matter of fact with all his 3 plans in motion it was enough that he even could have bested Titan Keepers with Strategy in the first war. That is how much his plan could no have failed until it did.
N'Zoth:
-forced the enemy to spread their forces
-had a living Apocalypse as a distraction that on its own was enough reason to form a grand alliance between the horde & alliance
-had 3 winning conditions which were worked on simultaneously by his minions with each of 3 factions also having been strong enough on their own in order for the horde and the alliance to come together again.
basically he send out 4 whole threats that were on par or above Lich King Arthus. Mainly above honestly.
One of the best Lore vids I've seen ... I am sending this to my WoW friends, I'll even try to advertise it in the WoW General Channel ... do you know how many players are just "playing" the game without knowing what is actually going on? ... Excellent work hirumaredx as usual, and Rachel's art is very very Expressive .... NEED MORE :D
15 years later we will get reintroduction with a high budget CGI cinematic to go along side it.
Explained coherently like this, I don’t mind him getting Kamehameha waved out of existence. I think one of their big issues was that, although it’s cool to have a villain spanning the amount of time he did, you kind of forget about it and when the time finally comes to kick his ass, it’s feels sudden even though it wasn’t.
This is an EXTREMELY well done video, and I listen to wow lore vids all the time I need background noise. You have my highest praises
The reason Azshara was being tortured by N'zoth's minion was because she was revealed to be so powerful that she could ignore his whispers. Deathwing couldn't do that himself, so does that imply Queen Azshara is more powerful than him?
She's the most powerful mortal mage to be born on azeroth. So yah maybe.
This series is by far one of the best I've seen. Well done!
A large part that is missing is shortly after the defeat of the Lich King, Xavius was able to make the Nightmare manifest in many places on Azeroth. I think it's in the novel Stormrage where a mist was causing a large amount of the world's occupants to go mad and start attacking one another. Guards in Stormwind were killing each other because they thought they were fighting monsters, Sylvanas even was succumbing to madness where she was being raised as a Banshee over and over and over again. There was also a group of guards in a cave to wipe out some Kobolds, and the mage with them turns out to be a Necromancer and raises the dead Kobolds to slowly rip the guards apart, then once the ordeal ends the whole thing starts again with them killing the Kobolds, them being raised into undeath and killing the guards. This was probably one of N'Zoth's more promising attempts at taking over the world.
Oh boy I remember that book. It has got to be the most boring wow book I ever read. It was full of so much padding and non-sense I couldn't finish it. I dont even know if that was N'zoths doing, though it most likely was.
There was a lore interview recently where it's all but confirmed that the kamehameha isn't the end of N'Zoth's story.
"All eyes are opened. Don't let yours be closed."
wow, I've played since burning crusade and I've always been quite the Lord not, but pretty much everything that happened with cataclysm I had no idea what I was doing. This was very informative
Omg I love the comic! Super adorable art and the narration was great too! Love all the tentacles, N'zoth and Azshara!
Yay, a FUN way to catch up with the whole N'Zoth thing! I refuse to play through BfA until I have a good reason to, like leveling to get to Shadowlands.
I'd love to say, good job to the artist who drew the images in these. They're both adorably cute, and very awesome at the same time. I can't get enough of them.
i love the super cute illustrations of the old gods
Sooo a mere 10 years after Cata I now finally understand the overarching plot of the expac, the zones and bosses make so much more sense now with N’Zoth behind everything. Great video and lovely drawings!
Very concise run down, well put together and presented, thanks for making this!
My golds on N'zoth coming back inside the dagger! With Xal'atath no longer inside the dagger and it basically being a empty USB for an old god! Xal'atath got free! I can see N'zoth thinking "Me Next!"
Love soo much this series, pleease make more.
Rachel's drawnings are so cute and accurate, luv them
Rachel's art is the best! I hope that one day she does animation. I'd love to watch a cartoon of it.
Was hype to see another one of these videos! Thanks man
Amazing villains corner as usual.
Well, they killed Y’shraaj by ripping him off of the planet, and because of the hole it left, the titans realized that they couldn’t rip the other ones out without probably destroying the planet. The significance of that is that the titans *could* have come up with a new plan to kill the old gods without blowing up the planet, but imprisoned them instead. Besides that little distinction great video ☺️ keep up the good work!
I only realized just now Cata was a very busy expac
9:56 "Hey there Remember - Champion... me?" :-P
10:00 "The naga are but we can like old - planning something stopit, just times." :-D
you just dont know how to read
you just don't know how to get a joke
@@racimramzi1691 it is a joke, and a good one in fact, unlike your sense of humour
Remember when n‘zoth was little more than a theory? Yea. Me too...
I've never even thought about playing wow but ALL your videos are well done and super interesting hearing you explain lore, game mechanics and other stuff. Keep it up :)
[insert joke about the ending cinematic]
*The ending cinematic*
there you go, the whole thing is a big joke.
kamaehamaaeHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
That cinematic really was just disappointing
cinematic bad
edit: thanks for the gold kind stranger
More Villains Corner pls!! I miss these videos, i rewatch them all the time, the artwork is adorable =D
This is my favorite series out of all the videos you do. Keep up the awesome work
RUclips closed captions are telling me korialstrasz’s name is Coral Straws
I mean, that's not too far off. :)
Thank you and Rachel so much for these xx
N'Zoth's little table sort of feels like the table Hades had in Hercules.
As someone who is way to lazy to read quest description, knowing all this, Cataclysm expansion and Dragon Soul raid what I disliked the most ... are way more interesting after knowing all this.
The best lore Channel on youtube
And then malfurion said: it works too well, it works too "WELL"
.... i will see myself out
Does anyone realize that they had an ENTIRE expansion about N'zoths pet, but they only give him a patch?
feelsbadman
I FUCKING LOVE THIS VIDEOS!!! Rachel is so talented and even though I know all the story already, I love the extra commentary you add, plus the drawings are hilarious sometimes
I don't care that this is years old, I love N'zoth's lil War Map
Ive been waiting for the next Villains corner and it was 100% worth the wait.
Loved the war table. Very clever :D
The old gods are awesome. Sucks that they keep getting defeated. They're a lot cooler than all the other wow stuff
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I don't think he's done with us quite yet, he always has backup plans to his backup plans, he's absolutely hiding something up his sleeve
I really love N'zoth but I just hate how his lore just... Ends. Like that's it, a crappy LoTR ripoff ending and a revamped Cata ending. I get that Blizz is running out of things for us to kill but still, god damn was that a horrible way to end this...
Mother is clearly the MVP of bfa.
One of my favorite series about wow lore
I'm holding out hope that, since Xalatath the entity exited the blade during Crucible of Storms, that the blade is now acting as a vessel for a portion of Nzoth's spirit after Wrathion stabbed him with it. It was always meant to be a back-up plan if Nzoth couldn't bring forth Nyalotha.
Xalatath: "Hear me god of the deep. I have brought you the Opener. The Bringer of Truths. The Torch the lights the way. Honor our bargain. Free me to find my own fate."
Nzoth: "Go....but the blade must remain to serve my will."
I'll have completely given up hope on this writing team if they never use him again.
I am almost afraid to ask if Deathwing will happen ('cause I know dragons are hard to draw and take time from the malygos one) but I genuinly can't wait for that one because Deathwing is a rather interesting one(and one of my personal favourites)
I'm from the future. 10 years later N'zoth will come back with the other old gods to fight the champions of Azeroth but they will only be dungeon bosses. Rogues and Demon Hunters will still be OP and Warriors will be the best tanks. Mages will gain healing abilities by time warping into the past when the guild is full health. New hero class will be Dark Ranger but will have banshee abilities+necromancer abilities. Warlocks will have an ability called Diablo.
God I love the cutesy style animation all the characters have.
I really want nagas to be playable :( maybe as an allied race now that the Illidari naga are friendly. Queen Azshara is my favorite villain in the game. 😔
I mean she might be redeemed. She did help the heroes defeat N’zoth and she broke her deal with Sylvanas (without her knowing) because she was aware of the darkness she wants to unleash. So Azshara is clearly done working with evil beings.
@@ninaloveray That's true. I do believe that Azshara herself isn't really evil, but simply someone who is so vain and narcissistic that she will do anything for power and prestige regardless of alignment.
Best lore video I've ever seen. Thank you so much!
Dude N’Zoth’s plans got ruined so bad I felt bad for him near the end, just let him have a win guys!
I loved Rachel's I think it is an amazing work
Love your videos, man. Great work. I’d love a video of Gul’dan and Garrosh at some point, if possible. Thanks for doing these!
N'Zoth originally offers to save Azshara alone. He never offered to save her people. This was something she added along with her being Queen to her terms. Re-watch the cinematic to understand this fact.
He says "Serve me and we will rebuild my Empire"
Then she says "Take my people, with them I will rebuild your Empire as Queen."
N'Zoth just wants a powerful pawn. Not an army following said pawn and this is partly why he gets so angry. Azshara will be harder to control now, but what choice does he have?
Well, that is kinda wrong
Great vid, as always! Oh, also got the artist's links swapped on the description btw!
N’Zoth was the DM, his minions were the players who nat failed at literally everything and he got a TPK.
so my warrior and warlock did that quest where I got the "gift" ( 10:25) - but there's supposed to be a "canon" spriest adventurer that does these things? Are these canon adventurers different? That is, did a different group of random adventurers defeat Illidan? Did a different group defeat Deathwing? Is there a canon faction that defeats the lich king (probably the alliance)?
Presumably.
Oooo...finally :D (I love this video and I am subscribed!!!! For a long time :D)
huh, so we've basically slapped down all of remaining old gods then as C'thun was the weakest and beaten down by adventurers before he could fully awake and Yoggsauron was beaten back into his prison which was then reinforced by the newly reinvigorated titan keepers, and n'zoth has now been smacked down by about as powerful of a weapon as once can get so he's out for the time being
thats one.. long sentence lol
Love these, simple art and well narrated
Over here thinking about Y'shaaraj or however you spell it's name and it is just floating aimlessly through space after being plucked from Azeroth.
"At the time of watching" 178 likes and no dislikes....seems N'zoth influence still strong you would wonder if we actually killed him 🤔
Nah, this guys just that good.
We havent killed a single old god, just pushed them back...
@@Mexican00b technically, N'zoth case is different compared to the other 2, C'thun and Yog were "killed" by mortal hands, or their manifestation rather on the physical realm, N'zoth on the other hand was blasted by a pure energy beam on his actual physical form in his own realm, if we apply the Elemental rules that they can only be truly killed in their plane of existence he could be a real goner 🤔
@@RB-hx3dx well fuck azeroth then! Lets see what part of it dies... Remember? Thats why they are imprisioned instead of killed, but hey... Actiblizzard is killing the game lore even more, sure then.
@@Mexican00b err that is still on par with the lore though 🤨...again, as far as we know, N'zoth ACTUALLY escaped prison and was in his own realm, N'yalotha, away from azeroth and got killed, no harm to her.
Yogg and C'thun are still imprisoned, they still have some influence, and what we defeated was a sort of physical manifestation on this plane of existence that we pushed back....aka "killed" them.
The only one to actually hurt azeroth was pulling out of Y'shiraj in pandaria, and even then his echos, aka the Shas, continued on.
So no...the lore is still intact and "ActiBlizz" are still consistent with it.....
I want yog'sarron or however you spell it and c'thun to come back and i also think it would be cool if ya'shragg wasn't killed
I expect we vs all 4 old gods when Void Lord attacks
Because I'm sure dead or not void Lord will comeback from dead
Very powerful narrative and beautiful drawings, nice job 👏👏🤘
I loved these videos. I hope they come back someday
N'zoth isn't dead, and hopefully those of us who kept his gift will be rewarded
Rewarded with a story spanning a decade that ends in a shit 'whelp, that's it!' Cutscene
Pity these videos wound up too expensive to make. I really do enjoy them.
Woot! Love these vids! Thanks Hiru!
I think it would be incredible if the champions just flat out lost. Nzoth Wins and the entire next expansion would be us trying to piece together some sliver of hope to beat him.
I saw an idea that we would all die in the final fight against N'zoth and that's how we end up in the Shadowlands.
Like my 3rd time watching and I just noticed the lichking and yogg figurines at 6:26 XD
You need to do a heros corner as well! 👌 love these lore videos!
10:00 The naga are but we can like old
planning something stop it, just times...
he maybe be the strongest old god but he is for sure the smarties
the fish with the tentacly eye hat