With a little bit of upgrades to the redcats front end and a set of beadlock wheels and new tires, it really handles like a whole other crawler. I upgraded mine along with some desert lizards as well and I love how it's at right now. Going to be adding a little bit more weight to the front, but it crawls so much better than stock.
Thanks, glad you're enjoying it. We've done a little with ours, too. My favourite upgrades for this one were getting the electronics sorted: ruclips.net/video/k0gScfI2jlQ/видео.html And that day where we tried 11 different tires on the rig, that was a good day :) ruclips.net/video/5Pe3zYMTX5s/видео.html
Very interesting course. Well done on the comparison of the 3 leading trucks in the market today. The TRX4 is hard to beat it will out preform any of my others but I still like driving the others for the challenge.
Thanks 👍 More comparison goodness to come, too. I'm personally quite interested to see how different the rigs all are when the rubber is the same. We shall see!
for the price range i think it would be better suited to opt in the gen8 for the axe edition since the trx4 and scx10.3 are both in the 500 range vs gen8 in the 300 range
Not a bad idea, yes! Though since doing this video we've looked at a lot more crawlers and the amount of choice out there is dizzying! I'm working on an idea for a comprehensive video on how to choose the best crawler for what you want, whether it's scale driving, trail use, pure rock crawling, fun on a budget, etc etc. In the meantime, I've got an article on my site that covers it: rc-tnt.com/rc-crawler-reviews/what-is-the-best-rc-rock-crawler/
This was fun to watch. I have a Gen8 v1. The Redcat certainly looks too high center of gravity in this comparison. And it is just me, or does the Traxxas seem to have greater articulation in its suspension? On the Redcat I found tucking the bumpers in helps; I cut the depth of my front bumper, so I could bring in the equivalent of two notches. I also would get hung up on the rock sliders. I appreciate your comments on needing to change the motor and ESC. I went with a 35T motor, and I love it. Drag brake is awesome even with stock ESC.
Great observations. I don't know about the TRX4 having more travel but it's possible. Those shocks are very good (they're now in the Phoenix - ruclips.net/video/6NQmFtJF0hk/видео.html ). I've done a few upgrade videos on the Gen 8. It's running a higher turn motor now and the stock ESC has completely sufficient drag brake, just as you've found (ruclips.net/video/k0gScfI2jlQ/видео.html ). I've also tucked the bumpers in and added a little extra weight down low. It's a solid performer now, aside from its fairly ordinary OEM tires. Cheers :)
You can, but not as easily as with a higher turn motor. I highly recommend the change - but by all means run it stock for a while first. Definitely its a great truck to enjoy in stock form. I'm just looking for ways to improve it further :)
Great comparison! Would recommend putting a timer of each vehicle on display to keep track of when the timer is running, if it's not too much of a hassle (I reckon it is...) Just to get all the main contenders of this type of rig, any chance to ask a friend to lend you an Element Enduro and/or a Gmade Buffalo in there next time to measure up (with one of these contenders as a reference on the same day) as well? Also, a final impressions on how different each was to drive would be very informative. For instance, strengths and weaknesses, ideal or worse terrains and situations to run them on, etc.
These are all great ideas, thank you! I've been thinking about a timer for all these, can't be too hard to add another frame on top and track it with the video.. I've not made videos before, just dabbled in editing, so there's been a lot to learn this past 6 weeks. I'll keep your ideas in mind, much appreciated!
It was a tough day on the rocks for them that day! I've put that Gen8 through a lot - sort my videos by Popular and you'll see it worked really hard in a trail tire test too! It's a good solid rig, the Gen8 v2 :)
Proline Interco TSL Swampers 4.75" with Proline single stage foams that are in need of replacing! This rig sees trails more than rocks by a big margin but I owe it an overhaul!
Is that magpies? They sound like robot flutes. I'd be scared of the Australian wildlife on the problem course, lol. Do you see giant spiders on your course?
Ah yes! Magpies are here. Four different kinds of venomous snake spotted here so far, spiders (I've been bitten on camera, in the Capra vs Gatekeeper video - I think I left it in, can't recall), etc. Wedge Tailed Eagle family live at the end of the property and a pair of goshawks nearby also, as well as kookaburras, choughs and others. Kangaroos and the occasional echidna in the yard. Very lucky to live here!
Thanks! Yes, it was rough - but that was also a little while ago now and as we come up on my 6 month anniversary on RUclips, I'd say this element is a lot smoother than it used to be! Incremental improvements for the win!
@@danweiss4928 the Gen 8 V2 is somewhat similar in quality to the TRX4, believe it or not. The TRX is more refined, but you pay for it. The axial is overpriced. If you're on a budget and just want a trail truck, get the Gen 8 V2. If you want to get a lot out of crawling on the rocks and on the trails, TRX4 for you (from these three). I've got a few other comparisons on the channel that consider other options as well, but the trx4 in any variety is a magnificent jack of all trades, generally speaking.
I have 6x 1/10 TRX rigs. At this point you'd think I'd have realised they're not rock crawlers. I shouldn't keep running them in rock crawling comps but I do. Maybe I'll work it out one day! But probably not. They are brilliant trail rigs, no doubt 🙂
@@RCTNTI want to buy a rig for my son with zero intention on mods .. only repair back with OEM parts out the box when things break .. what would you recommend ?? I’m talking zero modifications 1/10 crawler
Well, without knowing the budget, scale, expected terrain, how big your son is (little kid, teen, adult), etc, it's hard to say. You opened this discussion suggesting I should know the trx4 is a trail truck, implying I don't know what I'm talking about, so I'm not sure if this is a genuine question or not... But if it is, I have a few suggestions: Cross RC EMO X or EMO AT4. Reviews for both on my channel here. Capable, reliable. Element RC Ecto, Sendero or Bushido. Solid electronics and running gear, very capable, should last well. I'd suggest a TRX4 but the steering servo is a weakness and there are replacements for the stock servo that are cheaper and better. Same with the ESC. So maybe not that, but if you can get it for a good price, then consider it too. The RGT Rescuer is excellent. Scx10 III Gladiator or JLU are both solid. Base Camp and even the Deadbolt, and on that cheaper note, the Element Enduro SE. I have detailed reviews for all of these on my channel. There are write ups on my website too, and even an article called What's the Best RC Car? And also one called What Is The Best RC Rock Crawler? All of this is on rc-tnt.com. Hope that helps get you started. Cheers
@@RCTNTI will like to say I’m sorry if you took my statement personal or an insult on your knowledge of the subject matter. My statement said “ people “ because I was referring to others buying the TRX4 defender 1/10 and tipping all over the place and complaining about the rig. This happens very often .. thanks for going into detail about the best RC.. my kids are pre-teen and they have fun with scx24 and wanting something bigger .. my budget would be around $700 if I had to pin it down that way ideally $500-700. I would be looking for quality since I would have no interest in upgrades for the kids but have it capable in little novice hands .. I’ll check out all the cars you mentioned. You didn’t mention the redcat gen 8 v2 , so I will truly take it as a true reason why you didn’t.. I actually take your opinion seriously given your content videos as a subject matter expert. Far from what you thought earlier actually lol.. thanks for everything
I get a comment like the first one every so often ("people should know" etc) and I could definitely give more grace in my replies. All good. I didn't mention the Gen 8 V2 because you said "zero intention on mods" and "OEM parts". Well, the motor in mine sucked but even worse was the servo. See this vid: ruclips.net/video/k0gScfI2jlQ/видео.html Get those two cheapish things fixed and you have a truly durable fun machine - it'd be one of the best value options out of the entire list I gave you, in fact. But the "no mods" disqualified it. For pre-teens, it'll want to be tough, too. If you rethink your position on mods and just get a good basic servo into the Gen 8 V2 (like this guy: asiate.es/aff?l=190716&i=76070 ) you'll have a durable machine there. Cheers :)
3 very good trucks with there pros and cons in different terrain. On a comp course a long wheelbase with rear long bed its difficult to compare with shorter bodys and wheel bases. Better the shorter Wrangler put in to the comparison .For the money the Red Cat is the bargain in this comaprison.
Well you're not wrong, but wait until you see the next video (it'll drop in 12 hours or so). It'll change how you think about LWB - it did, me! The Gen 8 is the clear winner here, to be sure.
No need to be biased here - look how well the stock Sport kit performed! Yes, started with a decent servo, but many people have that in their kit build. It scored competitively in stock form and with the expensive tires (ie. Sport may not benefit from this 'upgrade') - mod money might be better spent on over-driving the front, for example. I'll do some video testing with next upgrades for the sport, with before and after data. Stay tuned!
I love your channel one of my favorite places to go watch on this rainy mexico maine USA east coast day but have no fear my wpl is kinda water proof so ima try this wet rock challenge myself I might just video tape it as well just for giggles cause well I'm not a video pro ima photographer for 19 years now just trying videos out you made me love this hobby so much more than I have thought alone with the rc gold channel and jt s channal oh can't forget go check out marks rc channel he's two states away from me but gets alot better footage if you ever travel out here I'd love to host you and your family have a great day and never stop crawling happy trails good friend
With a little bit of upgrades to the redcats front end and a set of beadlock wheels and new tires, it really handles like a whole other crawler. I upgraded mine along with some desert lizards as well and I love how it's at right now. Going to be adding a little bit more weight to the front, but it crawls so much better than stock.
Thanks, glad you're enjoying it. We've done a little with ours, too. My favourite upgrades for this one were getting the electronics sorted:
ruclips.net/video/k0gScfI2jlQ/видео.html
And that day where we tried 11 different tires on the rig, that was a good day :)
ruclips.net/video/5Pe3zYMTX5s/видео.html
Love that gen 8
Love this bro very well done
Thanks!
Mods cost money, indeed! Great comparo
Thanks! This is a bit of an older one now but I'm glad you got something out of it. Cheers
Very interesting course. Well done on the comparison of the 3 leading trucks in the market today. The TRX4 is hard to beat it will out preform any of my others but I still like driving the others for the challenge.
Thanks 👍 More comparison goodness to come, too. I'm personally quite interested to see how different the rigs all are when the rubber is the same. We shall see!
This is the info I'm looking for. Are these 3 platforms still the best on the market. What about Gmade or Cross?
for the price range i think it would be better suited to opt in the gen8 for the axe edition since the trx4 and scx10.3 are both in the 500 range vs gen8 in the 300 range
Not a bad idea, yes! Though since doing this video we've looked at a lot more crawlers and the amount of choice out there is dizzying!
I'm working on an idea for a comprehensive video on how to choose the best crawler for what you want, whether it's scale driving, trail use, pure rock crawling, fun on a budget, etc etc.
In the meantime, I've got an article on my site that covers it: rc-tnt.com/rc-crawler-reviews/what-is-the-best-rc-rock-crawler/
Shame the axe got the axe from redcat I wanted one
The Fusion isn't expensive as the full AXE systems and can easily be installed - a possible solution for similar money at least..
Really good in depth comparison 👏 love the lil course you have set up I need to rent myself a field somewhere haha
Thank you! I'm grateful for the space we have here. Big deal for mental health and I don't take it for granted! Glad you enjoyed the video, cheers!
This was fun to watch. I have a Gen8 v1. The Redcat certainly looks too high center of gravity in this comparison. And it is just me, or does the Traxxas seem to have greater articulation in its suspension? On the Redcat I found tucking the bumpers in helps; I cut the depth of my front bumper, so I could bring in the equivalent of two notches. I also would get hung up on the rock sliders. I appreciate your comments on needing to change the motor and ESC. I went with a 35T motor, and I love it. Drag brake is awesome even with stock ESC.
Great observations. I don't know about the TRX4 having more travel but it's possible. Those shocks are very good (they're now in the Phoenix - ruclips.net/video/6NQmFtJF0hk/видео.html ).
I've done a few upgrade videos on the Gen 8. It's running a higher turn motor now and the stock ESC has completely sufficient drag brake, just as you've found (ruclips.net/video/k0gScfI2jlQ/видео.html ).
I've also tucked the bumpers in and added a little extra weight down low.
It's a solid performer now, aside from its fairly ordinary OEM tires.
Cheers :)
Very nice driving sir.
Instead of a second trx4, I should have bought the gen8. Oh well theres always Christmas 😅
Nice one!
Can I still crawl slowly with the 17t motor?
You can, but not as easily as with a higher turn motor. I highly recommend the change - but by all means run it stock for a while first. Definitely its a great truck to enjoy in stock form. I'm just looking for ways to improve it further :)
Great comparison! Would recommend putting a timer of each vehicle on display to keep track of when the timer is running, if it's not too much of a hassle (I reckon it is...)
Just to get all the main contenders of this type of rig, any chance to ask a friend to lend you an Element Enduro and/or a Gmade Buffalo in there next time to measure up (with one of these contenders as a reference on the same day) as well?
Also, a final impressions on how different each was to drive would be very informative. For instance, strengths and weaknesses, ideal or worse terrains and situations to run them on, etc.
These are all great ideas, thank you! I've been thinking about a timer for all these, can't be too hard to add another frame on top and track it with the video.. I've not made videos before, just dabbled in editing, so there's been a lot to learn this past 6 weeks. I'll keep your ideas in mind, much appreciated!
Very stres test the rc 😁 i think the redcat more bigger body then txr4 and axial..
It was a tough day on the rocks for them that day! I've put that Gen8 through a lot - sort my videos by Popular and you'll see it worked really hard in a trail tire test too! It's a good solid rig, the Gen8 v2 :)
What tires and foams are on the bronco
Proline Interco TSL Swampers 4.75" with Proline single stage foams that are in need of replacing! This rig sees trails more than rocks by a big margin but I owe it an overhaul!
Is that magpies? They sound like robot flutes. I'd be scared of the Australian wildlife on the problem course, lol. Do you see giant spiders on your course?
Ah yes! Magpies are here. Four different kinds of venomous snake spotted here so far, spiders (I've been bitten on camera, in the Capra vs Gatekeeper video - I think I left it in, can't recall), etc. Wedge Tailed Eagle family live at the end of the property and a pair of goshawks nearby also, as well as kookaburras, choughs and others. Kangaroos and the occasional echidna in the yard. Very lucky to live here!
Wonder the new 2021 trx4 bronco will outperform all of those
I haven't looked into it, but had assumed it was just a new body. Is there anything more than that going on?
@@RCTNT Not really. Just another excuse to get a new Rig. :-)
@@jackking5631 lol righto, we're on the same page then! Heh
That was cool the watch. I can imagine how difficult it was doing the film and drive.
Thanks! Yes, it was rough - but that was also a little while ago now and as we come up on my 6 month anniversary on RUclips, I'd say this element is a lot smoother than it used to be!
Incremental improvements for the win!
Well it’s been six months what one of the vehicles would you recommend? I’m leaning towards a Traxxas. You won’t hurt my feelings. Thanks
@@danweiss4928 the Gen 8 V2 is somewhat similar in quality to the TRX4, believe it or not. The TRX is more refined, but you pay for it. The axial is overpriced.
If you're on a budget and just want a trail truck, get the Gen 8 V2.
If you want to get a lot out of crawling on the rocks and on the trails, TRX4 for you (from these three).
I've got a few other comparisons on the channel that consider other options as well, but the trx4 in any variety is a magnificent jack of all trades, generally speaking.
@@RCTNT Thanks. I will definitely watch some more of your videos.
@@danweiss4928 nice, thanks Dan! The Cross RC EMO AT4 is a worthy machine if you're considering the TRX4.
trx4 strong
Still going solid today :)
(the other two are as well though - maybe all the big names are making tough stuff these days!)
TRX4s are trail trucks .. if only people knew ! Everybody try’s to rock crawl
I have 6x 1/10 TRX rigs. At this point you'd think I'd have realised they're not rock crawlers. I shouldn't keep running them in rock crawling comps but I do. Maybe I'll work it out one day!
But probably not. They are brilliant trail rigs, no doubt 🙂
@@RCTNTI want to buy a rig for my son with zero intention on mods .. only repair back with OEM parts out the box when things break .. what would you recommend ?? I’m talking zero modifications 1/10 crawler
Well, without knowing the budget, scale, expected terrain, how big your son is (little kid, teen, adult), etc, it's hard to say.
You opened this discussion suggesting I should know the trx4 is a trail truck, implying I don't know what I'm talking about, so I'm not sure if this is a genuine question or not...
But if it is, I have a few suggestions:
Cross RC EMO X or EMO AT4. Reviews for both on my channel here. Capable, reliable.
Element RC Ecto, Sendero or Bushido. Solid electronics and running gear, very capable, should last well.
I'd suggest a TRX4 but the steering servo is a weakness and there are replacements for the stock servo that are cheaper and better. Same with the ESC. So maybe not that, but if you can get it for a good price, then consider it too.
The RGT Rescuer is excellent.
Scx10 III Gladiator or JLU are both solid. Base Camp and even the Deadbolt, and on that cheaper note, the Element Enduro SE.
I have detailed reviews for all of these on my channel. There are write ups on my website too, and even an article called What's the Best RC Car? And also one called What Is The Best RC Rock Crawler? All of this is on rc-tnt.com.
Hope that helps get you started. Cheers
@@RCTNTI will like to say I’m sorry if you took my statement personal or an insult on your knowledge of the subject matter. My statement said “ people “ because I was referring to others buying the TRX4 defender 1/10 and tipping all over the place and complaining about the rig. This happens very often .. thanks for going into detail about the best RC.. my kids are pre-teen and they have fun with scx24 and wanting something bigger .. my budget would be around $700 if I had to pin it down that way ideally $500-700. I would be looking for quality since I would have no interest in upgrades for the kids but have it capable in little novice hands .. I’ll check out all the cars you mentioned. You didn’t mention the redcat gen 8 v2 , so I will truly take it as a true reason why you didn’t.. I actually take your opinion seriously given your content videos as a subject matter expert. Far from what you thought earlier actually lol.. thanks for everything
I get a comment like the first one every so often ("people should know" etc) and I could definitely give more grace in my replies. All good.
I didn't mention the Gen 8 V2 because you said "zero intention on mods" and "OEM parts". Well, the motor in mine sucked but even worse was the servo.
See this vid: ruclips.net/video/k0gScfI2jlQ/видео.html
Get those two cheapish things fixed and you have a truly durable fun machine - it'd be one of the best value options out of the entire list I gave you, in fact. But the "no mods" disqualified it. For pre-teens, it'll want to be tough, too.
If you rethink your position on mods and just get a good basic servo into the Gen 8 V2 (like this guy: asiate.es/aff?l=190716&i=76070 ) you'll have a durable machine there. Cheers :)
3 very good trucks with there pros and cons in different terrain. On a comp course a long wheelbase with rear long bed its difficult to compare with shorter bodys and wheel bases. Better the shorter Wrangler put in to the comparison .For the money the Red Cat is the bargain in this comaprison.
Well you're not wrong, but wait until you see the next video (it'll drop in 12 hours or so). It'll change how you think about LWB - it did, me! The Gen 8 is the clear winner here, to be sure.
I'm pretty biased, I love my TRX4 Sport!
No need to be biased here - look how well the stock Sport kit performed! Yes, started with a decent servo, but many people have that in their kit build. It scored competitively in stock form and with the expensive tires (ie. Sport may not benefit from this 'upgrade') - mod money might be better spent on over-driving the front, for example.
I'll do some video testing with next upgrades for the sport, with before and after data. Stay tuned!
@@RCTNT I run the overdrive gear int he front of mine and it has made a huge change! So much better getting up and over rocks.
@@shredcraftrc absolutely, it's the way to go for rock crawling! Nice.
Les go
It was so good to get them rubber side down on the same course, yes! Been looking forward to making this video in particular for a while!
I love your channel one of my favorite places to go watch on this rainy mexico maine USA east coast day but have no fear my wpl is kinda water proof so ima try this wet rock challenge myself I might just video tape it as well just for giggles cause well I'm not a video pro ima photographer for 19 years now just trying videos out you made me love this hobby so much more than I have thought alone with the rc gold channel and jt s channal oh can't forget go check out marks rc channel he's two states away from me but gets alot better footage if you ever travel out here I'd love to host you and your family have a great day and never stop crawling happy trails good friend
Thanks man, really appreciate all that. Will do.
Go for it, it's fun to make these and share the hobby this way. Do it :)