NB Miata Goes Full Standalone ECU! ME442 / ME221 Install [Project 2SJ Ep7]
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- Опубликовано: 3 фев 2021
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What's up guys and happy 2021!! I'm pumped to finally get started on modifying the NB, and there's no better place to start than with a standalone. This is already a really fun car and I can't wait to see where the build goes. If you guys have any questions regarding the installation of the ME ECU drop them down below, see you guys in the next one! (It will be less than a month this time I promise loll)
Additional notes for install (let me know in the comments if you think of anything):
1) For all UK models, the ECU is under the passenger floorboard, so access is much easier.
2) For improved text scaling (mine is funky in the video)
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The following steps should improve the scaling of the MEITE software in windows 10 and the presentation of tables and data.
1. Right click the MEITE icon and click properties.
2. Click compatibility tab
3. Click change high DPI settings
4. Tick the box that says "Override high DPI scaling behaviour"
5. In the drop down menu, select "system",
6. Press OK. Reopen the MEITE software.
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3) Regarding datalogging - The 442 has on-board logging. This means the ECU is logging to the on-board SD card any time the key is in the "run" position and you can extract those logs from the ECU, which are time stamped. This is an EXTREMELY helpful feature, for those times where the engine does something unexpected but you were not manually recording a datalog. 
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I feel I speak for all us NB owners when I say, ABOUT TIME WOOOO
Getting to the outro is so bittersweet. On one hand: "man its already over" On the other "shit's my jam"
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This series is going to be GOLD
I did have a chuckle at your cold start being 19c. That's a nice summers day!
Lol literally
I've had a ME221 running in my MSM for 3.5 years but I still watched.
Dad?! You’re finally back! Did you get the milk?
Actually in both of my european NBs, one 1.6l and one 1.8l, their ECUs were on the passenger's footwell ;)
Damn, the anticipation for a new video was killing me! Thank god you’re back
I'm running a 221 in my turbo for more than 2 years now. Looking forward to learn new things
Finally, someone is going to cover the ME221 / 442, got one in my NA recently so looking forward to this
some of the best content. Even the intro rocks. Well done.
Just got done with class, that's some pretty impeccable timing if i do say so myself
ill be getting this for my NB...will be paying attention!! TY for the vid
DAaaaaaD! It’s good to see you again! 😀
Thanks for the video. Ive had my me221 for a month now and was a little hesitant to install because I wasn't sure how well the base map would run. I think I will be installing in my 99 miata tomorrow.
Hey Greg what's the pros and cons of running the ME ECU versus a megasquirt
I absolutely love this series. Even more so now that I own an nb1 myself
2:12 LMAO Greg the Japanese Tsuchiya videos “WOW” sound effect... Brilliant touch mate !!!
We've missed you dude, welcome back Greg!
Will be following this with great interest Greg! My very next mod
Don’t even own my miata anymore, still watch your channel
I’ve been looking forward to this one!
Awesome vid, watching with interest as I have a ME221 in a 1.6 supercharged NA and I want to learn more about tuning.. ✌🏻 Peace out man 👍🏻
Great video creg
Awesome modeling miata dad😂😂 love the merch gonna pick a hat up when I get paid
Ahh, yes. Could not wish for a better topic. And it's my birthday too :)
Thanks for another great video!
Hey Greg, how about throwing a Speeduino ECU into your next Miata?
I dont think Miata Dad would want such a reliable ECU
I try this yesterday and I failed because I didn't knew that we could locked 10°. Now with your help I know how to check my advance timing to found where my horse power are gone on my ITB mx5 😁
NB Time baby!!! 🥰
That thing sounds like a dirt bike at the beginning during your drift. Brap brap braaap
Not gonna lie that was a really good merch plug
Nice job Sir!
The ecu location also differs for all european cars (think the japanese version also ) , they all have them on the passenger floor.
... Hello again friend!
Loled hard at that one
GLAD YOUR FINALLY BACK!!! Why this ECU? Is it better than a Magi Squirt Pro? Is it less expensive than a MSP? Is it easier to use and/or have more features than a MSP? Thanks for the Video!!! Best Always, Chris Zinn
Buying an m442 will save you about 300-400 dollars in comparison to a Megasquirt 3
Never bought a YTer's merch before but I'm getting that shirt no doubt
Hi Greg I’m hoping you will do more on the ME221 tuning like you did with the Megasquirt pls. My MX5 has been tuned and dynoed but as a noob to this ecu it would be good to learn how to tweak things myself here’s hoping
I’m really wanting the ME ecu for my NC!
Love these types of videos! Please tell me this is going to be an naturally aspirated build 🐢
That is my plan, although I'm not completely decided on the exact direction of NA power yet 😊
@@TheCarPassionChannel bro if I could subscribe to you twice I would !
FINALLY!!!!
Yes! Another Miata Dad video!
Love the merch take my money.
Saw your question at SN9 stream and was like whaaaat... TRACKDASYBOO :D
Everyday Astronaut is the GOAT
That T-shirt is great 👍
Hey Greg nice clutch squeak
FYI, in EU and JDM models, 1.8 NBs also have their ECU on passenger floor.
Could you take us through your cold start tuning procedure? Even though I’m on a dyno tuned megasquirt 3 my cold start could use some improvements. I guess the process is quite similar between the ME441 and MS3?
Thanks for showing removal
More me442 stuff
I’ve been hoping this build series would go DIY ITB’s. Motorcycle throttle bodies ! FTW!
That's not been ruled out yet 👍
Dude, that is an awesome shirt.
We made individual cylinder knock control for the Miata in 1992.
miata dad is back
THANK YOU!!
Do you have a promo code coming for those of us looking to buy an ME442 here soon?
Would really like to see if you can recommend the ME! I don´t know if i should get the ME or the Megasquirt...
Greg it would be crazy if you add up a new stroker kit from Maruha they are going to sale a new Crank 87mm with beter pricing than their previous stroker kit.
It should be around 1200$ the price and som more technical stuff will be out in April. :)
I saw your tip on EveryDay stronaut!!! didnt realize you were into space flight
Big time, when I'm not studying cars I'm studying space 😅 Every Astronaut is the GOAT!!
I need to finish my speeduino stand alone...
i love mine, hurry up and get that thing finished
@@theincredibletruestory1741 im building the board from Westfield...so gimme a minute
Great video. It's helpful you take extra editing time to show what not to do vs just cutting to the finish product..I tried to take a data log, but it was more of a scatter plot. Jk. Poop jokes. Any one else hear the squeak toy shift sound? Makes it impossible to be upset. Pedal noise?
it's been so long!
Would you prefer megasquirt over this
I really need a Miata in my life.
Hi Greg, How about getting a 323f Lantis for your next project??? Keep up the good work...
Way better then donut media. Just sayin.
Agreed, but I would still love to see them do a video together.
I like both of them, for different reasons, donut cuz they do the stuff I wouldn't do/maybe do cuz they interest me and car passion, because his on a budget and learning making mistakes as I am
I've been using the ME442 in my turbo MX5 for about half a year now, idle tuning etc is actually pretty easy and it starts up almost as fast as stock. I'm always happy to send my tunes if you need some inspiration :)
@Zio Peraza what kind of help do you need?
@Zio Peraza If you are in Closed loop PWM idle, make sure the min and max duty of the valve are "effective" also the Exit idle duty should be close to the idle duty so it falls back properly.
I have P=0.1, I=75 and D=0.
Conditions are Min RPM=500, Max RPM=1500
Regarding the lean idle, check how much the car has to trim lambda when falling back in idle and change your VE table accordingly.
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Remove the underscores
@Zio Peraza coincidentally mine is turbo aswell so it would be a good approximation
@Zio Peraza So basically Min and Max are the values that actually change the idle. if for example the rpm stays the same between 55 and 65, your effective PWM is 55 since more doesn't do anything. My min/ max is 18/35 but those values are different for everyone. What is your exit idle duty, best choice is to choose a value close to the actual idle PWM (so once it's idling at about 950 rpm, look at the idle pwm duty and round it off)
Welcome back ,was worried you got Covid 19 . Will ME software run on Chrome book?
Top Tip - avoid resistor-less 'racing' plugs, the EMF plays havoc with the USB comms. Ask the man whose just replaced most of his ignition system today to find out ;-)
Youre more of a miata professor/dr. Making it like Frankenstein in a montrous way
I like how the silhouette of the old ECU kind of looks like a dinosaur in the thumbnail. Not sure if it was intentional but if it was it's a good little Easter egg if it was.
I have a question. Fab9 tuning made there edition about the Me221. What do you think about it? So if I get a ME442 or ME221 with a 1991 1.8 swapped miata using the 1.6 harness and ecu to run the motor. Then what map should I use?
After base map, is it not possible to use autotune option to make the map better while driving? Or without proper dyno tune you cant get it to run as it should?
Aye ya boi here early
3:56 miata dad stressin me out
noice intro
Do you prefer this ecu over a megasquirt 3 pro? I’m buying one soon for a supercharged 94 Miata.
My NB1 ‘00 has the ecu in the passenger footwell 😊
I'm assuming that you live outside the US then? Since the EUDM and the JDM NBs had the ECU in the footwell. Don't know why it's in above the pedals in the USDM model, seems weird to have different locations since it's basically the same car
Are your injectors cleaned and flow tested? the single 02 can't compensate for the variation in flow between the injectors.
1. Does this bypass the immobilizer? 2. Can it be tuned to pass an OBD II emissions test?
how do you pass OBD emissions with it though?
Does the o2 sensor plug into the oem harness?
Thanks crepe
I think, for the uninitiated (but interested, like myself), it would be nice to get a comprehensive understanding of the advantages the 442 offers over the 221. The 442 is provided with a wideband O2 sensor but that's about the only part that I understand.
Also includes onboard logging and direct EGT input, as well as Drive By Wire Motor Driver :)
Lol I doing that right now broke thermostat housing changing a stuck thermostat lmao
so are you prefering to tune with ms or me?
Why not Megasquirt for the nb?? What made you switch over?
Probably because ME gave him a free ECU or - more likely - paid him to run it.
Oh hey im early 💙
How do u only have 100k subscribers?
A clear guide on how to set up cold start properly in miete would be much appreciated!
Very much this, I added a start injector priming pulse and upped the start injector cranking trim on the original basemap and it's much better, still needs some fine tuning. Be good to see someone who knows what they are doing though
@@yakhunt9424 I had no idea what I was doing for that part, shame motorsport electronics doesn't have a video about it at all
@@ps3modder92 Agreed, wish there was more online specific to the ME ECUs, the basic principles apply though, cold fuel in a cold engine doesn't vapourise that well so you need to add more to get it to catch
Im here dad
Suggest putting a smiley mouth on the shirt- make the block look like a smiling alien with ET like eyes (Cam pulleys)
With the map sensor installed can you get rid of the old flappy door Maf sensor on the NA6 cars? (Like you can with the megasquirt)
Yes you can
9:35 Can you do a short tutorial on how to fix that belt squeal? XD. My NB2 sounds exactly like that from a colt start, and I have to let it warm up for 10+ minutes for it to go away. I've already replaced and tightened the belts...
Tighten your alternator belt
Please make a video on how to make the coldstart better. I bought a miata with me221. It almost didn't start with 5 degrees Celsius outside. I got it starting pretty good now thank to hp performance (thanks for that tip in a previous video) but at around 0 degrees Celsius it still doesn't want to start right away and if it starts it dies again. After that it just starts fine with no problem. If you can't still thanks for the good and fun content, keep it coming always enjoy it :D
Look at your ASE (After Start Enrichment) 'Start.Inj.ASE.Trim' I also had an issue where I hadn't entered the dead times of the new injectors properly that made it struggle, worth checking if you've changed injectors
@@yakhunt9424 Thanks I will look into that. I don't think the injectiors have been changed. I at least didn't change them.
@@Stranio34 Also join ME Tips and Tricks on facebook, lots of remote tuners available for a small fee to really nail it for you!
Greg, does the ecu come with a wideband sensor or do you have to buy it separately?
The 442 includes the wideband sensor
i Got a voltage peak in my me221 and now my 1.8vvt is technically totall loss. Everything is burned up
Miata dad I need you help. So I installed this ecu into my nb1 but it won’t run even on a base map. I got it to start once but it runs on 2 cylinders only. I’ve gone through everything you talk about in this vid but now the injectors aren’t firing at all car ran fine before the ecu I even went back to stock to see if maybe my injectors died but no it’s all back to normal now. I would really appreciate some help this is a headache.
Thanks for all the awesome content❤
Do you know if a stand alone ECU bypasses the immobilizer on the NB2's?
Yes it does!
Any reasons why you’d run this ECU over a mega squirt ??
still have 16minutes to go but i just realized....
you have the wrong seats in there O.o
is the diff right? lol