Half Saucer Starship: The Intrepid Class (Not That One)
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
- The NV Class, Half Saucer, Intrepid Type or Class is one of the earliest Starfleet vessels that eventually passed into UFP use after the Earth Romulan War of the 22nd Century. First seen in Star Trek Enterprise as part of Earth's defense fleet, this vessel went on to serve longer than the NX class before it.
00:00 Intro
00:25 Real Origins
01:27 Starfleet Origins
04:05 Specifications
06:01 Summary
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I like this era of ship design. Vulcans have their rings, Andorians their wings, and Humans punching up.
I've always thought that Enterprise's pre-Federation designs were so fitting -- they fit well between the design of the Phoenix and the Constitution class. A lot of cool ships overall!
Vulcan rings, Andorian wings and Humans, balls or saucer
I really wish Discovery had continued in the vein of Enterprise in terms of ship design, but apparently that was just too much to ask... all of season 1&2 Discovery's Federation ships are weird and angular and anachronistic-looking.
At least SNW got things back on track, sorta.
@@HylianFox3 Disco does seem to be an oddity in every design lineage.
@gmradio2436 Sounds like some ballin lyrics.
The Half saucer makes a lot of sense for 2 reasons.
1) As a prototype for building a deep space version. (NX-01)
2) Since its only intended for short range, no need for a full saucer for storage.
I still remember when this ship and others came to save the Enterprise at the start of season 3, it was just what I had been waiting for. In the first 2 seasons Starfleet had just felt a little too weak so it was good to see them have some teeth when they were not in deep space. I wish we had got to see the start of a rudimentary Earth Starfleet, but unfortunately the show was cut short.
End I season two. But yes. Great scene
I really liked how Earth Starfleet in this era has its tube-shaped ships (the Phoenix, the XCV Enterprise, the NX-Beta and other early prototypes), its half-oval ships (the Emmette type from the opening credits), its half-saucer ships (Intrepid class), and its three-quarter-saucer ships (the Franklin from Star Trek Beyond). And then finally the Enterprise rocks onto the scene with a full, round saucer as Earth's most advanced experimental ship.
It doesn't make a lot of PRACTICAL sense, but in terms of IMAGERY it paints a clear story of Earth's shipbuilding style evolving.
The design of the Franklin fitting in with the other ships of the era is, apparently, purely coincidental! The artist tasked with designing the Freedom-class for _Star Trek: Beyond_ claimed he did not look at any ships other than the Constitution-class for inspiration, and was told to design a ship "centuries" older than the Constitution-class. It's a really cool instance of convergent design evolution!
I really like the Intrepid class, as you can see the similarities in design with Intrepid being the workhorse of Earth's Starfleet.
I find the design of this ship interesting, as it has a half saucer, an aft section that has no negative space and fins under the nacelles. You can tell that some of these elements were refined and made better for the NX Class, so I believe this class was constructed before the NX-01 Enterprise. It is a very intriguing design. What I found particularly fascinating is when the Intrepid assists the Enterprise and the captain talks with Captain Archer you can see how cramped and small it's bridge is compared to the one for the NX Class.
While Intrepid was constructed before Enterprise. NV was paralel design. Intended more as back up, option to reuse parts if situation as with Freedom class (NX prototype) repeat. When it fall apart leading to waste of all designed parts. If Enterprise would fail, they would use pre-produced NX parts to make NV class Destroyers. What in the end they did due to the war.
A cool little ship, I was really happy when Earths fleet of ships got a few more classes added in the later seasons. I enjoyed Enterprise as a whole but just seeing the ships from that era was cool. I can actually remember when the Vulcan cruiser made it's first appearance and my childish glee.
Little?!?
@@kevinramsey417You do remember how to fire phasers?
Wish it was in Star Trek Online.
This sounds like a good idea. I want more 22nd weapons too.
Want to spitball ideas?
@@gmradio2436 maybe a new simulator mini story for everyone to play. Do a Romulan war from multiple sides. Also include Enterprise era Starfleet ships from Star Trek Legacy to the mix.
@@barrybend7189 Could be fun. Sadly pre TOS era sells poorly
@@gmradio2436 well that's why we have the simulator missions. Show the ships in action and they could be enforced. Plus everyone wants the Enterprise ships from Legacy added in.
@@barrybend7189 That is actually not true. Enterprise era sell poorly. Some people buy merchandise for it, but it is dead last in sells and popularity.
I want cryptic to bring Foundery back. Player made content is fun.
I really like this ship design. And the brief look of the bridge when it turns up to help the NX01 also showed a cramped, smaller bridge than the NX01. It continued to show and build in Starfleet really being on the edge of what they could achieve.
I love these designs that are further away from the classicsal enterprise style spaceframes. My favourite in that vein are the Daedalus and Olympic classes, they might be goofy but thats what I like about them
Absolutely loved the pre federation intrepid design, it looks just so natural and fitting for the era.
One of my favourite ship designs in Trek! It sits among its contemporaries on my "early Starfleet" shelf of Trek models.
I really enjoyed the Enterprise books set after the Earth Romulan war focusing on T'Pol as Captain of the Endeavour and Reed as Captain of the Intrepid.
Look up Pierre Drolet's USS Jefferies Project. He worked out a Federation style starship as if it were made with modern technology and is incredible.
With the exception that he used Kelvin verse Nacelles, that is a SEXXY Ship for early Years Fleet ... Love the external Turrets .... Nice early Model for a Battleship/Dreadnaught.... Would make a Nice Home System Defense Ship....
I guess the name Intrepid wasn't used so much between the early Federation and Voyager's era, so they just decided to use it for a totally different line
There was constitution class intrepid. As well . All vulcan crew. Tos
Thank you , Sir. Rick !; For the ENT. era of ship lines love it and thanks for showing the love for that era please do entertain us more with your knowledge of that era when new information come out. Thank you much ❤😊😊😊😊
What I really like about this ship is that it shares a strong resemblance to the Orion Pirate frigates from Star Fleet Command 1 and 2. In lore, the Orion Pirate ships were scavenged and repurposed United Earth/early UFP ships. A coincidence, surely, but still quite interesting.
Love playing as them in ST Legacy - good balance vs the NX class
Did anyone noticed the very very brief cameo of the Intrepid in the JJ Abrams Movie ?
this intrepid version looks VERY similar but the Kelvin Timeline has a much bigger version
you can only see it very briefly at spacedock, its in the backround of one of the Enterprise shots
One of my favorite non-hero ships from Enterprise, really wish they'd give us this in STO. Could the next Rundown be on the Glenn or Narendra class please good sir?
but the NX series was a t1 escort class. the intrepid was even less capable than the nx series. so where would it fall? the only thing lower than a t1 ship in STO is a shuttle... and the intrepid doesnt fit in that role. there arent any t0 ships. only way you'd get one, is a t6 temporal variant.
Perfectly fine with that, since temporal t6's is all we're getting lately it seems.@@dustinherk8124
So here is what I know about NV:
After first NX prototype fall apart (what we now know was Freedom class like USS Franklin). Whole United Earth plans fall apart, with large number of planed and sometimes pre-produced ships like Daedalus, being deemed waste. Archer was really angry about that on Vulcans, who did know about issue, but didn't informed Earth. Though Vulcans argued that Earth would not have this problem if they would test things properly (though in such case Earth would not hack subspeace breaking Warp 5 engine, what later lead to Vulcans giving humanity they Warp 7, to rid off time traveling Archer drives). So it sort of work?
Anyway. NV was designed with memory of previous failure in mind. Or specifically NX was designed in a way so its parts could be reused for lighter Destroyers, comparably in firepower to early NX, but without all that fancy space needed for labs and explorer related commodities. NV paralel Ganges class, what despite being part of failed project, because it was refit of older Neptune class (aka Emmette type) could be refitted back with Warp 2 engines. What they did during the shows.
Despite being concept/back up. Some number of NV ships was made during Earth-Romulan War, what lead to sudden cancellation of NX (of which only 4 were made and two lost immediately on beginning of the war, with maybe one or two more entering service as almost finished). NV was prioritized as cheaper. At least until NX was redesign in Poseidon class Destroyers, with doubled firepower. Though with cost of removal of field stabilizer (what was present only in Columbia refits of NX, what also have early shield). Fortunately conclusion of Enterprise mission, allow refitting of canceled ships like Freedom and Daedalus with working Warp 4 engine. Total, 20 NX family ships were made. Some even could stay later in service with Loknar class refit, what is clearly FASA version of NX. Not to mention TMP Era Columbia remake.
Though it is a theory, it is possible that Starfleet could test cut off version of Poseidon, know as Strider class. What was basically entire Posejdon core, without saucer (what was re-added later in obscure Marklin class Destroyer). Though class entered service when conflict ended and was caned. At least until TMP where design was revision as Light Escort. NX could be also base for famous Constitution, or at least Exeter class. As size fit, at least in original scale.
The NX, Intrepid, and Delta would make a great battlegroup centered on the NX. Like modern carrier strike groups. 1 NX, 2x Intrepid, 3x+ Delta-class. Too bad these other Enterprise ships never made it into Star Trek Online or not yet, they would make a good bundle.
They did that in the books ( romulan war )
One of my all time fav Starfleet designs
Awesome video. I've always loved the half saucer design.
I like to think of the Intrepid as being the NX-class's "Nebula." A likely offshoot of the NX-project, used as a test-bed for the test-bed, and able to integrate with parts designed for, and refined by, its more famous elder sibling.
To clarify for those who don't know, the Nebula-class was a contemporary to the Galaxy-class (Enterprise-D), and was designed to be a 'cheaper' and smaller ship utilizing and sometimes testing the technology developed in the Galaxy project.
I'd love to see them do a followup to ENT similar to Picard, set during the Romulan war... The original ENT actors are a bit too old for it now, but they could still make some cameos.
Or just set it after the war in the early years of the Federation, maybe with flashbacks to the war itself?
Love that you made a video about this cool small ship :)
This is a pretty cool-looking pre-federation ship, although I prefer the warp delta. Two comments, however...
The positioning of those radioactive nacelles so close to the crew makes me nervous _and_ I think it would also look better if they were slid back about as far as the length of the bussard collectors.
As for those fins, they also look cool, but I'm skeptical of their functionality. I reckon an ancestor of Tom Paris was a designer and just wanted the Intrepid class to 'go faster'. :)
🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done and executed and informatively explained in every detail way shape and form provided on the format and subject matter on the NV INTREPID class starship vessel's, And on the functions and duties and abilities of this vessel along with its weapons systems and shielding capabilities and on its upgrades and so forth and so on indeed Sir!,👌.
Always liked this design and have it as my computer wallpaper right now. In the Rise of the Federation books Malcolm Reed is the skipper.
Thanks Rick for this video and all the others on your entire channel sir.
I have always loved this class thank u Rick for showing it some love😊
honestly the forward profile view of this thing reminds of the nova class more than anything
Hello, Ric. I've enjoyed your channel for the past year, particularly the ensemble topics that draw from various episodes of Star Trek. I was curious if you had ever considered making a video about ship-to-ship combat at warp speeds and what special elements that entails, particularly things like deflectors, warp fields, phasers vs torpedos, how shields function a warp, how cloaking systems function at warp, the added risks and/or benefits (if any). I know you touched on some of this with the Picard Maneuver with the Stargazer, but didn't know if you had delved deeper into this topic in another video. Or, if you already covered this topic, hopefully I'll eventually find my way to it.
It's a tight little ship design, small, clean, no frills. Starfleet already branching out.
"Intrepid" is nearly as commonly used ship name as "Antares"
You've got this ship, the Constitution-class Intrepid, the Excelsior-class Intrepid, the Intrepid-class Intrepid, and most recently, the Duderstadt-class Intrepid. There's also the Intrepid-class of the 32nd century which includes the Voyager-J.
The Voyager-J is actually a Janeway class, isn't it?
@@EdKolis All sources I've seen call it "Intrepid (32nd Century)", like how the Excalibur-M is "Constitution (32nd Century)"
Naming the class after Janeway would be nice
Rick, could you do an breakdown of early pre- photon torpedo missile type weapons? Probably starting with our current fusion bomb tipped missiles adapted to space warfare, through the photonic torpedoes we see in Enterprise. When did they make the change over to using anti-matter instead of fusion weapons? The Romulans still had atomic weapons on their ships in Kirk's time, so early Star Fleet and United Earth Defense Force ships must have had those as well. I imagine the cost and complexity to produce antimatter at scale kept them from using it for weapons until some time after Enterprise.
Thank you again Rick for another informitive video
Honestly I think this is one of the most attractive ship designs.
another awesome video sir congratulations amaizing!
I really like the designs of the united earth pre-fed starfleet vessels.
man i hope we see this time in canon again would love to see the intrepid type again on screen and perhaps some of the other ship classes from the earth romulan war like the yorktown and poseidon daedalus
Those unused sketches look good as hell. Make it a border patrol ship. Top speed warp 6 with double the armor and all the kick ass weapons it will hold. Quantum torpedoes, regenerative shielding, phasers and phaser cannons and some tricobalt devices just cause. Come on Starfleet, do it!
One of my favorite Star Trek ships! I would love a modern version like anti borg enterprise E look on it
One thing enterprise and discovery nailed was the ship designs
Loved this ship design.
Wish we got to see more of SS Intrepid (NV-01) in the show. The designs from NX-01 era are my fav designs. Wish we had seen more early ships.
I love a good ship breakdown.👍🖖
never understood the designs that have the middle of the saucer section left out as empty space.
From a practical sense, the only good reason I have seen is to protect shuttle launch bays, but the real reason is it just looks cool.
With the class, I wonder if it's design was more of a system patrol ship, while the NX design was more of the explorer/scout design. Removing a lot of things for endurance might boost the Intrepid-class' capability in holding the line in UE systems.
I really like this design. Good job as always 'Rick', if that's your real name. :D
My absolute favorite
I’d hate to be the crew member with a window right beneath that bright red bussard collector lol. It’s like that episode of Lower Decks
I love the Intrepid so much. One of the best UE ships
The only space combat game that has happened after Enterprise did try putting the NX into the game (though it's performance doesn't mimic what we saw in the Mirror episode). But this class wasn't present and anyway Star Trek Attack Wing wasn't really a simulation type of game. It's too bad because I think it would have been potentially fun.
Good video👍💯
they should add this to star trek online, It would be nice to have more 22nd century ships in the game.
They appeared to be used in orbital defense in season 3. From your analysis it sounds like a cheap defense vessel which can be easily upgraded with newer tech as it became available.
Basically i think the Intrepid was launched prior to the NX-01 but was on her shake down cruise at the time
I think ilder then tgat. Remember the vulcans slowed the nx development so this would be increment advance to nx
A ship with very simple patrol/exploration role
The sketch at 1:17 on the left looks like an NX era inquiry class haha.
God I want a model kit of the Intrepid so much
It would make sense for the Intrepid to have been a test bed for some of the NX equipment.
Thanks
The Intrepid is such a nifty design. I would have gone with NS class.
I see the intrepid as a 22 century pioneer class (you should do a modern video of it in the style of this) or new Orleans class
Can you do an episode about the Confederation of Earth and its power. We know that they conquered the entire Alpha squadrant and the Borg, what about the Dominion?
I can’t actually recall what it said about being conquered or just at war with, but I did recall seeing the Dominion mentioned on the presidential computer desk thing and went “oh man, they even got to the Dominion”. They’ve truly spanned across the galaxy (which is even more bleak than that Mirror TNG book where the empty space between spiral arms were limiting the Terrans’ spread).
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Romulan and Klingon were kept as slaves and during the Eradication day ceremony, they said they have conquered them
When you say Intrepid, my mind just automatically goes to Red Shirts by Scalzi.
Are there any sources of info / images / designs of what the Romulans were flying in the war that preceded the TOS episode "Balance of Terror"? I have seen some of the "Enterprise" show's episodes but I am more familier with TOS and TNG. Maybe some of that is told/shown in other episodes of Enterprise?
I think the starfleet museum web-site, is probably your best bet, @glenn_r_frank_author .
That, or the Star Trek Legacy game (that uses some old RPG designs)
I wish we had more ships like her in STO, but they would most likely end up in a loot box.
if you look it from the top , with a few more " metal " on it , looks really close to a steamrunner class
I still don't get why the new borne Federation just didn't use Vulcan ships, as they were by far the most advanced ships around. Yes, I know, politically, the other powers probably wanted their own ships, and Earth in particular wouldn't want to seem that backwards as to have to rely on the Vulcans for ships. Nor might the Vulcan's want to give away their own advanced tech that quickly, but it still would have made sense, at least as far as explorer type ships, for the early UFP to use advanced Vulcan ships rather than slower, less powerful Earth ones.
I also just love the Vulcan ship designs of this era.
And i wondering If It was nx-1 who debuted the saucer design, but It shared with other ships as well
I've always wondered what ships come after the NX class. What are the other ships to carry the Enterprise name.
Whats the bqckground music in specifications?
Can anyone say what music tracks were used in this video?
Could you do another Enterprise area ship
The original Intrepid had half a saucer, so the new one had a saucer and a half to compensate.
There a fan how modified this design by Moving the warp nacelles back to a more traditional position and removed the fins and called it the NY-01 Endeavor class.
And I thought the NV-01 INTREPID had 4 torpedo tombs; 2 Bow facing, and 2 Aft facing?
Looks a bit like a nx version but what is the need for the fins on the engine pylons
I thought it was the Neptune Class as that's what it was called on Star Trek Legacy
If the Intrepid is a light cruiser, what is the NX and Daedalus classes?
wait aren't all your eps drinking games? **falls flat on my face from drinking to much**
In-atmosphere, are the warp-nacelle fins very aerodynamic?
Idk the nacelles brooding over the top of the saucer section. It seems an odd design function wise. Nacelles are supposed to be separated and off slung for crew safety.
The fins also satisfy the rule of cool because fins are cool
Also make ships look faster 😊
Then came the Newton Class Strike Carrier if the Kelvin Timeline a massive 570 meters in length.
They installed the sensors inside the RCS clusters? :p
Wish I could see the interior of the ship.
This is the 22nd century Miranda to the NX's Connie.
So, is the same as enterprise act as the prototype Gundam(RX78-2) but since they need fast produce gundam. The earth federation(gundam universe) build RGM-79 GM is equal to this NV starship. Interesting.
I love defending earth against the Xindi with the Intrepid in Stellaris ST New Horizons
i like this ship more then the nx class, but 8 phase cannons over the nx only getting 3 wtf
Some people ma like this Intrepid design and that's totally fine. Personally, I never liked that design and think it's very tacky looking compared to the design of the NX-Class Explorer.
How an NX class Intrepid Starship could drive off Klingon bird of prey been a bit since I've seen that episode it was either one or more than one but still how any of those ships managed to drive off any Klingon ship makes no sense to me
SPACE!!!
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Looks like a Horseshoe crab from the top
Saucer cutouts were a mistake.
So not the Janeway's dubious decisions one?
I utterly despise RUclips for saying that Adblockers violate RUclips's terms of service, utter BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well you are using their product and they set the rules/terms. YT makes money off of advertising, so anything that deletes ads could cost them in revenue. The only BS is you thinking that you should get something for free, which blocking ads would be. Maybe you should use your own money and time to make a new platform that is free for everyone.