The 2023 Jeep Grand Wagoneer L Can Haul Your Family No Problem, But How Does the Hurricane I-6 Tow?

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  • Опубликовано: 30 окт 2024

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  • @davidhillbrand2302
    @davidhillbrand2302 2 года назад +164

    At no point does $107,000 begin to feel reasonable. Nice rig but prices are out of control.

    • @PaulTC97
      @PaulTC97 2 года назад +10

      you can get a very cheap home and restore it

    • @flsupraguy
      @flsupraguy 2 года назад +17

      @@PaulTC97 lol no unless it's in the middle of the ghetto

    • @whammond511
      @whammond511 2 года назад +7

      Agree!! Jeep has shot themselves in the foot with the pricing. Can’t get past that #!!

    • @gbaby4rb64
      @gbaby4rb64 2 года назад +9

      @@flsupraguy um you can buy a good house for that where I live

    • @whammond511
      @whammond511 2 года назад +8

      It’s already at Dealerships. I saw it yesterday. Very nice. It tics off all of the boxes. But that price tag ensures that the only time I’ll ever see one is yesterday - at the dealer. Maybe when it’s 10 yrs. old? Good luck Jeep!!

  • @billp5424
    @billp5424 2 года назад +21

    In ‘97 I paid $100k for a house in NW Denver. Sold it for $330k in ‘14. What will a Wagoneer be worth in 17 years. Oh well, you can sleep in your car but you can’t drive your house. Took the $330k and built a new house that Zillow says is now worth $700k.

    • @billgateskilledmyuncle23
      @billgateskilledmyuncle23 2 года назад +3

      And even if it were a Lexus, it's value is still doomed to fall even if at a slower trajectory. New car prices are dumb and we can thank the banks first and the gullible customers second.

    • @josephquinto5812
      @josephquinto5812 Год назад +1

      “Zillow says,” lol that doesn’t mean much. Just look at your county website for an accurate view of your home’s value

    • @SpartanusCXVII
      @SpartanusCXVII Год назад

      You can drive your house if your house is a camper… that’s what y folks will be doing.

    • @TPAK-tb6gr
      @TPAK-tb6gr Год назад

      Yup, all automobiles go to Zero.

    • @life_of_riley88
      @life_of_riley88 Год назад +1

      ​@@TPAK-tb6grAll? My 72 Challenger Rallye continues to appreciate.

  • @aaronlima1993
    @aaronlima1993 2 года назад +9

    Can I just say I really appreciate that Roman wears an American flag shirt in almost every review. Respect.

    • @PimpSolja49
      @PimpSolja49 2 года назад +1

      Murica! Where 60% of the people don't own passports and have never experienced another country!

  • @KennethBaker53
    @KennethBaker53 2 года назад +15

    It is hard to make a $107k vehicle seem more reasonable. It looks fantastic, and I'm sure it has lots of bells and whistles, but it is hard for me to comprehend spending that much on a vehicle. Great video, as always, and keep them coming.

    • @TomazHilton
      @TomazHilton Год назад

      any 100k+ SUV either dont offer as much Cargo/Passenger Space or cant tow morethan 7000lbs ( looking at you Germans)

    • @daviidfm923
      @daviidfm923 8 месяцев назад

      @@TomazHilton Escalade

    • @TomazHilton
      @TomazHilton 8 месяцев назад

      @@daviidfm923 Oop!

  • @douglasscoleman
    @douglasscoleman 2 года назад +6

    Curious on the payload? An Airstream will bring a lot of tongue weight, and a SUV seating 8...

  • @717FTE
    @717FTE 2 года назад +14

    I would love to see a long term review of these vehicles. Mine has been plagued with electrical issues.

    • @curtw878
      @curtw878 Год назад +2

      Most new vehicles have electrical issues, not just Jeep

  • @TheCharleseye
    @TheCharleseye 2 года назад +18

    Hey Roman, could you start telling us which country the electric motors in various EVs come from? It seems like it's really important to you to mention the country of origin of a gas engine, while I'd like to know who's building the motors "of the future."

    • @bret9741
      @bret9741 2 года назад

      China is the leader in EV motors, batteries and the vast majority of “green” technologies. Of course they are also the largest consumers of oil, coal and natural gas. China doesn’t believe off even follow the greenie religion. Their goals are simple, become the dominant manufacturer of high tech and low tech industries that are off strategic importance to the democracies of the world. This will ensure their power expands and in case of a war, ensure the U.S. and it’s Allie’s are unable to produce weapons at a replacement rate necessary to sustain a war.

    • @jessicaczyzewski4198
      @jessicaczyzewski4198 2 года назад +2

      Why do you have such a problem with that?

    • @bret9741
      @bret9741 2 года назад

      @@jessicaczyzewski4198 because nations like China, Russia, Iran have murderer (at a minimum) 300,000,000 THREE HUNDRED MILLION of their own citizens since 1900. China is threatening the invasion of Taiwan, it has threaded war with multiple nations, even recently attacking India. Why would I not want China to dominate the world…. Well, if a world controlled by totalitarian dictators is a nightmare

    • @TheCharleseye
      @TheCharleseye 2 года назад

      @@jessicaczyzewski4198 Your reading comprehension skills need work.

    • @PiDsPagePrototypes
      @PiDsPagePrototypes Год назад

      @@jessicaczyzewski4198 It's called 'Jingoisim'.
      It's like how people from the USA say 'Americans' like only US citizens qualify, rather then Canadians, Mexicans (The other two North American countries), Brazilians,Peruvians, Chileans, Argentinians, etc etc from South America. The word 'American' means a person from anywhere in continents of North and South America, but once the jingoism is applied it becomes a term claimed by one nation to exclude thier neighbours.

  • @Ted_Stryker
    @Ted_Stryker 2 года назад +11

    Not really sure why so many people seem to think that folks would have to sleep in these on a regular basis just to afford them. Lol
    Fortunately, people who generally buy these types of vehicles are financially established enough in life that they don't really need to worry about that. I highly doubt that there are too many people out there who are wondering where their next meal will come from, but just have to have that new series III Grand Wagoneer so bad that they're like, "Damn it, Jeep. Why is this thing so expensive?!! That's it, I'm selling the house!!" 😂 And, they certainly aren't forcing anyone to buy these and do make cheaper vehicles. Just thought I'd throw that there for those who seem a little... confused. 🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @clearcut6818
      @clearcut6818 2 года назад +5

      The Internet is full of whiners. If this thing is $50k, people will still complain.

    • @Radley97
      @Radley97 Год назад

      The part I don’t understand is him saying that it’s “reasonable”

  • @grantlouw3182
    @grantlouw3182 2 года назад +6

    WTF is that Nissan ad - if TFL has started putting their own ads into the content I for one will stop watching any of their content. I don’t pay for YT premium to watch paid advertising.

  • @ThatSallyChick
    @ThatSallyChick 2 года назад +6

    Looking forward to the Ike! Head to head with the Yukon Denali Ultimate XL perhaps?

  • @rubenquinones3015
    @rubenquinones3015 2 года назад +5

    Roman..At no point is $107k reasonable for a vehicle..

  • @steves.1700
    @steves.1700 2 года назад +4

    Great review. But I think it's important to clarify the numbers when talking about towing so that people don't assume when they buy a $100K vehicle built on a truck frame that it will automatically be able to tow heavy loads. There's some really crazy stuff going on with these 2023 4x4 Wagoneer vehicles with the new 3.0L motor. The high tow ratings approaching 10,000lb are ONLY available if the vehicle is equipped with the "Heavy Duty Trailer Tow Package" (called "Max Tow" in the Owner's Manual for some reason). If you forget to add that little $995 package, your tow ratings are reduced by over 40%!!! For example, 5,750lb in the Wagoneer L 4x4 and 5,400lb in the Grand Wagoneer L 4x4. That's a HUGE difference that is important for people to understand. I would love to hear from Jeep explaining why there is such a huge difference. But don't believe everything you read on RUclips. Go check out the Jeep Owner's manual for yourself!

    • @mikemartin2988
      @mikemartin2988 Год назад

      Agreed I had to make sure we clarified at the dealership we wanted the max tow and we added the package..we are towing that same flying cloud in the future

  • @bruceknirs9987
    @bruceknirs9987 2 года назад +14

    As much as I love the Grand wagoneer wagoneers in general their price point is what would keep me from ever buying one which is a shame because it is a awesome vehicle towing capabilities it's off road capabilities but price point I'm sorry it's just way too much money for something even if it's a luxury bottle version it's just too much money but then again that might just be me

    • @trenton.tchannel1810
      @trenton.tchannel1810 Год назад

      Get a grand Cherokee L.

    • @bruceknirs9987
      @bruceknirs9987 Год назад

      @@trenton.tchannel1810 no

    • @mikemartin2988
      @mikemartin2988 Год назад

      We had looked at other SUVs that were capable of towing 9,000 plus and This was the absolute best option. The sequoia was the next choice but not great features

  • @robfelts8076
    @robfelts8076 2 года назад +8

    I could definitely afford that... if I lived in it. 😆

  • @vr4787
    @vr4787 2 года назад +5

    Glad I got my Ram 1500 Hemi when I did. Just naturally aspirated V8 goodness that’s easy enough to work on and modify. I hope the hurricane works out but I have my doubts. Not crazy about premium fuel though.

    • @dylanbuk7055
      @dylanbuk7055 2 года назад +1

      Genuine question. Are the modern hemi v8’s actually easy to work on?

    • @vr4787
      @vr4787 2 года назад

      @@dylanbuk7055 as far as modern engine’s go yeah. In the Ram there’s enough room to get at everything. I relocated the oil filter, upgraded the air intake tube, deleted the clutch fan and went to an electric setup for more room in the bay. Rear spark plugs a bit tricky but not impossible. Accessories and belt isn’t aren’t hard to replace. Hoses and wiring are neatly routed and not hard to get at. They’re straightforward to tear down but it’s a process like any other modern engine. Still a push rod with port injection, and you can tune them or cycle the gears to deactivate mds. If you have to do the cam and lifters the heads have to come off but again pretty straightforward process. Very simple setup compared to a modern twin turbo charged direct injection engine.

    • @jeffreyrigged
      @jeffreyrigged 2 года назад

      @@dylanbuk7055 mine is super easy.

    • @jeffreyrigged
      @jeffreyrigged 2 года назад

      to add every one of these smaller displacement turbo engines seem to work harder and offer worse fuel economy when used in any matter other than straight highway that ive drove. i feel its more of an emissions thing for car makers.

    • @TomazHilton
      @TomazHilton Год назад

      the S.O I6 Doesnt Require Premium and it has ALOT morepower than the 5.7

  • @watchingvideos4309
    @watchingvideos4309 Год назад +1

    Ive looked at this setup. I have the 2022 Airstream FC30bunk. But I’m driving a 2020 Ram 3500 Big Horn Dually Aisin. I can tell you I payed half the amount for my truck that I did my trailer after taxes on both. That being said. Two years later I could get a base wagoneer for the price I paid for my truck. In two years the average car price went up $11000 and since 2018 it’s up $18000! We have got to let this market crash, lower these inflation rates, and get the car companies and other manufacturers back into check. Sad to say. Unfortunately most people are financing 7-8 years myself included in order to afford the vehicle they want. Fortunately I got 2 2020 Mopars at 0%/84 and 2%/72mo when I purchased. Now they are 6%/72 or worse. Interest rates are what keeps you in debt. Not so much term length. But when your average decent career family buys a new family suv and it’s minimum $67k for basic plus tax. Your at $75k otd! I bought a srt Jeep in 2018 loaded to the gills for $73k otd. That’s a nearly 500hp luxury suv toy that few can afford to just play with. Yet now it’s the standard cost for a mom to take her kids to practice in a big safe suv. Small foreign SUVs have became to only affordable way. STOP PAYING THESE PRICES PEOPLE!! Ford only made a LIMITED truck because PLATINUM trucks were flying off the lots!!! At $90k! May as well build one for $100k!!! And consumers bought it.

  • @Tully3674
    @Tully3674 2 года назад +4

    Paying $107,000 for a well equipped Jeep is like paying $90,000 (10 years ago) for a VW...and that didn't work out well for VW.

  • @chasewakefield4366
    @chasewakefield4366 Месяц назад

    Hi, and thank you for this video. If you have time would you mind making a video going over what towing setting and heights is best to tow in? I understand there’s a feature called flat tow. I’m not clear on what that function is best used for.

  • @robertyoung8289
    @robertyoung8289 2 года назад +3

    That's exactly what I paid for my 2 bedroom California home in 1986. Now its worth 800k. Had I bought this Jeep instead it would literally be worth nothing.

  • @adame924
    @adame924 Год назад +2

    If you're towing greater than 50% of the rated vehicle towing shouldn't you use a weight-distribution hitch?

  • @aerbes1
    @aerbes1 Год назад +1

    I test drove a regular length series 3 with the hemi, so it's shorter, has more bells and whistles, and had the less powerful but in my opinion cooler and more desirable engine option, and it was stickered at $117k plus a $7,000 buyers premium. So $124,000 all in And it still didn't have every option.
    A wonderful and substantial vehicle but that does seem just ludicrous doesn't it?

  • @Radley97
    @Radley97 Год назад +2

    107,000 is reasonable? In what world

    • @point4894
      @point4894 Год назад

      other cars by 100k dont have so much practicality

  • @MNsparky
    @MNsparky Год назад +1

    I have to believe most people will spend much less money on a fully loaded truck to do the same task as well if not even better. Not knocking the Wagoneer’s ability, but at that price tag I wouldn’t suspect to be seeing too many folks towing their camper with it. Using the word “reasonable” is crazy.

    • @TomazHilton
      @TomazHilton Год назад

      It’s a Luxury SUV first, towing is just the added bonus. You can spend 69k on a Wagoneer to do the same capabilities but you’re sacrificing luxury.

  • @robertyoung8289
    @robertyoung8289 2 года назад +2

    Probably the only thing in common it has with a Jeep is its reliability. 🤠

  • @anthonyzhang4918
    @anthonyzhang4918 2 года назад

    Saw one of these on the road, man I love the looks of this car

  • @Van_Liberty
    @Van_Liberty 2 года назад +3

    That's almost a quarter million dollars rolling down the road. Exhibit A of a debased currency and government. Beautiful rig and trailer, though...

  • @PimpSolja49
    @PimpSolja49 2 года назад +2

    Wow, you literally intergrated a Nissan commercial in the video. Didn't jeep provide the vehicle for you to review? And you throw in a Nissan ad?

  • @johnnicpon5783
    @johnnicpon5783 2 года назад

    What! No weight distribution/anti sway hitch? Fortunately Airstreams are one of the most stable travel trailers to tow. The Grand Wagoner is crying for the 6.4 Hemi V8. I just don't like turbo charged engines. If you don't want it to be naturally aspirated, then supercharge it. I have a 2020 Airstream International Serenity 30 RB, maxes out at 8800 pounds. I tow it with my 2020 Ram 2500 Limited MegaCab with the 6.4 Hemi, 4.10 rear end and air suspension. Absolutely love my setup. Oh, yea, I use a Blue Ox weight distribution/anti-sway hitch with 1000 pound bars.

  • @CfRlCajunfishRiplips
    @CfRlCajunfishRiplips 2 года назад +1

    Very nice SUV and great video as always but…I don’t see 107k in this video. It amazes me that vehicles sell at this price.

  • @curtw878
    @curtw878 Год назад +1

    Jeep not a luxury brand? Grand Cherokee has had one of the best interiors and ride comfort off and on road for over 10 years

  • @jonathanmazzella1247
    @jonathanmazzella1247 2 года назад +1

    I saw one of these at our local restaurant parking lot. Not the inline 6, I’m sure it was one of the hemis. Had 2 large dogs inside it, car was running, and the dogs are just jumping all over the place barking at pedestrians walking near it. I told the wife that’s a 100k suv with 2 dogs inside tearing up the interior, some people got money to 🔥 apparently!!!

    • @sly9263
      @sly9263 2 года назад

      Yes, some people have more dispensable income than others- that's how capitalism works.

    • @josephquinto5812
      @josephquinto5812 Год назад

      @@sly9263
      Some people are more valuable than others. Life sucks but suck it up.

    • @sly9263
      @sly9263 Год назад

      @@josephquinto5812 struck a nerve?

    • @josephquinto5812
      @josephquinto5812 Год назад

      @@sly9263
      Not a valuable member of society?

  • @marksman4004
    @marksman4004 2 года назад +2

    I have a 2014 chevrolet silverado. with these prices of vehicles today that's probably going to be the last newest car I'll ever have.

  • @oidirk
    @oidirk 2 года назад +4

    Stopped watching at the Nissan commercial.

  • @joshbrown6091
    @joshbrown6091 2 года назад +1

    What the payload capacity?

  • @MickPsyphon
    @MickPsyphon 2 года назад +1

    Sorry, Roman!;$110k for a family vehicle is beyond the pale. Firstly, it loses value the moment that you drive it off the dealership lot. Nobody will ever get $110k worth of value from it. *PERIOD!*
    Stellantis is gouging Jeep customers, based entirely on Jeep's brand name and reputation. It's unconscionable!
    Yeah, yeah! They put the Hurricane I-6 in it. So, what? We still don't know whether the new engine is solid.
    That vehicle shouldn't cost more than $65k USD!

  • @duncanpage1556
    @duncanpage1556 2 года назад +2

    107 G you say is reasonable? You must make too much cash !!! That's a complete rip off Have a great day!

    • @grantlouw3182
      @grantlouw3182 2 года назад +1

      Clearly lost touch with reality thinking it’s a good idea to put their own Nissan advertisement into the content stream. Seriously if this is the direction TFL is going I will be looking elsewhere for my vehicle related content.

  • @9663mu
    @9663mu 2 года назад +2

    Anyone else feel like the interior is a lot nicer then the exterior ? Exterior is very bland to me while the interior is superb.

    • @sly9263
      @sly9263 2 года назад +1

      That interior is going to wear like shit- way too much piano black. Frankly any vehicle over 50-60k shouldn't be using cheap and poor-wear materials like that... let alone a vehicle that's over 100k.

  • @htownsfinest87
    @htownsfinest87 Год назад

    So you dont need any sway bar controllers/ bars to tow over a certain weight

  • @ALMX5DP
    @ALMX5DP 2 года назад +2

    Are tow mirrors an option?

    • @jeffreyrigged
      @jeffreyrigged 2 года назад

      i would think ram ones poss could swap to it.

  • @helgewilliams6757
    @helgewilliams6757 2 года назад +2

    Roman, I'm sorry sir but to say $107K is reasonable...you're so out of touch I'm not sure anything I say will make sense to you...respectfully

    • @grantlouw3182
      @grantlouw3182 2 года назад +1

      Clearly lost touch with reality thinking it’s a good idea to put their own Nissan advertisement into the content stream. Seriously if this is the direction TFL is going I will be looking elsewhere for my vehicle related content.

  • @reidhulshof3645
    @reidhulshof3645 Год назад

    The only people that seem to be excited for the hurricane are the Wrangler people. We’ve been looking for something better than the 3.6 pentastar for years and the 392’s days are very limited. I just hope at least the standard output is an option in addition to the 2.0T version that’s already available

  • @cramirez9382
    @cramirez9382 Год назад

    Have you guys done an Ike gauntlet test with the twin turbo motor?

  • @LukeEdward
    @LukeEdward 2 года назад +3

    The real story is how Roman turns on the air conditioner without 120V or a generator? Can you please tell us more about the Airstream’s AC, if this is the case?

    • @WilliamPozo
      @WilliamPozo 2 года назад +1

      there are a bunch of 12 volt ac's on the market now. can run off battery for a while depending on your battery capacity.... There are some 120 volt units that run off inverters and batteries but the 12volt system seems to be the ticket.

  • @srtmetal7647
    @srtmetal7647 Год назад

    Ok. What the hell was the Nissan commercial? I pay for RUclips premium to not have that.

  • @BetaRacer24
    @BetaRacer24 2 года назад +1

    Whats the payload of this?

  • @poobank
    @poobank 2 года назад +1

    Can fit more and tow more with Yukon XL 8.1L. Just will spend 107k in fuel over a few years lol

    • @TomazHilton
      @TomazHilton Год назад

      no you cant. GW is CLass leading with 10k+towing

    • @poobank
      @poobank Год назад

      @Tomaz Reppa Hilton class leading? Is a 20 year old 8.1L 2500 SUV in its class? Who cares about 10k towing? I'm talking 12k+ towing. Check the Google again bc your fact check is fake news. Cargo and towing > for the 8.1L Yukon XL

    • @TomazHilton
      @TomazHilton Год назад

      @@poobank why are we mentioning 2500’s when this is based on 1500 chassis? Which is best in class.

    • @poobank
      @poobank Год назад

      @Tomaz Reppa Hilton bc the Yukon XL 8.1L is a 2500 chassis and I'm pointing that out in my comment to make sure you catch it

    • @TomazHilton
      @TomazHilton Год назад

      @@poobank get your facts straight, the XL is offered in both 1500 & 2500. “The Yukon XL 1500 is available in a new trim called the Denali Ultimate. The AT4 trim has been discontinued for 2023. Yukon XL 1500 trims have been upgraded with Panoramic Sunroof and Automated Parking as standard equipment this year. The Denali trim now comes with Smart Key as standard equipment.” “The Yukon XL is offered in half-ton or three-quarter ton capacities, and luxurious Denali models are available. The Yukon XL is a great choice for towing cars, boats, horses, and travel trailers. A Yukon XL 1500 is rated to tow up to 8200 pounds, while the heavy-duty 2500 version can tow up to 9700 pounds.” The Wagoneer defending on spec can tow more than the 1500 & 2500 XL. @ 10k lbs “Best-in-Class Maximum Towing Capacity up to 10,000 Pounds
      Tow your recreation essentials to your destination with an available Best-in-Class Maximum Towing Capacity 1 of up to 10,000 pounds.”

  • @jimmyspencer4019
    @jimmyspencer4019 2 года назад +1

    Over 100000? Yikes. I'm glad it has so much room so people that buy these can live in them as well since its getting small house price range.

    • @PimpSolja49
      @PimpSolja49 2 года назад

      Where the heck can you buy a small house for 100k? Where I live you need $1M to live in a shoe box. I'm not joking.

  • @robertyoung8289
    @robertyoung8289 2 года назад +1

    I assume that includes the trailer?

  • @legocreatortor55
    @legocreatortor55 2 года назад

    Love u got an airstream! Want one so bad!

  • @RickNethery
    @RickNethery Год назад +1

    Way too expensive, it's gonna sit on the lot forever.

  • @clearcut6818
    @clearcut6818 2 года назад +4

    Roman, that Nissan money is hurting your credibility, and ruining the viewing experience for many if not all of your viewers. Take it down!

    • @grantlouw3182
      @grantlouw3182 2 года назад +3

      Fully agree with you, if that is the way TFL is going that’s me watching my vehicle content elsewhere.

  • @donovanhebert8291
    @donovanhebert8291 2 года назад +1

    There is no point at which a $100k+vehicle (consumable) seems reasonable. Full Stop.

    • @TomazHilton
      @TomazHilton Год назад

      Cadillac Escalade V ESV starts at $150k with nearly 700hp… it’s only .3 seconds quicker to 60 than the Wagoneer.

  • @trevorbeck7746
    @trevorbeck7746 Год назад

    Great showing!! But pull up your pants bud!!We don't need to see the crack of dawn any time soon!! LOL!!

  • @sullybiker6520
    @sullybiker6520 2 года назад

    Stupid question - is the airstream so called because it is slippery? Does this really help with the freeway towing?

    • @youtubecarspottersguide1
      @youtubecarspottersguide1 2 года назад

      yes this is a 25' front bedroom mine is about 5600 lbs bout 6200 full tanks and bikes etc the hitch wt is 850 pounds that is part of the cars payload and the wife 4 kids 2 dogs so the max tow will be less lower trim levels tow more when you add 4 ent screens sunroofs etc add to the wt of the car lower the max gross vec weight

    • @sullybiker6520
      @sullybiker6520 2 года назад

      @@AustinsADV That's what I was thinking. It would be a good test on the gauntlet to have them run with the airstream as a control trailer, and then do the same with the toybox-of-the-week.

  • @williamconrad1087
    @williamconrad1087 Год назад

    So who owns the airstream?

  • @NWI_Steel
    @NWI_Steel 2 года назад +1

    That gloss black center console is gonna show scratches and dust like crazy

  • @scottgriffin2005
    @scottgriffin2005 10 месяцев назад

    My 2023 ram 1500 tows my 7500lb Jaco 26bch with panache.

  • @PiDsPagePrototypes
    @PiDsPagePrototypes Год назад +1

    A six is the 'smoothest engine' ?? Sounds like someone hasn't experienced a V12 or a Straight Eight. ;)

    • @TomazHilton
      @TomazHilton Год назад

      A Strait six is always the most smoothest of engines.

    • @PiDsPagePrototypes
      @PiDsPagePrototypes Год назад

      @@TomazHilton I say this as someone that owns straight sixes. ... a straight eight and a V12 is smoother, and a 1930's V16 is smoothest.

    • @TomazHilton
      @TomazHilton Год назад

      @@PiDsPagePrototypes talking about still in production lol

    • @PiDsPagePrototypes
      @PiDsPagePrototypes Год назад

      @@TomazHilton Where, in my original comment, did I limit to 'current production'???
      I did not.
      But, there are two V16's in current production, and no, I'm not going to hand feed you the links.

  • @jnmaher1967
    @jnmaher1967 2 года назад

    TFL needs an airstream for the Morton barn. Perfect match.

  • @michaelstone7514
    @michaelstone7514 Год назад

    I'll take the 6.4 v8. Tried and true engine. Stronger build than the 5.7. Turbo 6 is fine without towing, turbo sucks gas under heavy load.

  • @mattheww1429
    @mattheww1429 Год назад

    When are yall going to do a ike gauntlet trip with it?

  • @MrJamesLuz
    @MrJamesLuz 2 года назад

    that hurricane 3.0L engine is rated at 14 city / 20 highway MPG. My F150 can tow my wife's Subaru Outback and get better MPG. AND combined they cost less than the Grand Wagoner!!
    edit: yes this is satire. Of course my truck doesn't get 20 MPG on the highway towing.......

  • @Quijoteb
    @Quijoteb Год назад

    Why am I getting commercials with RUclips Premium… is the Nissan commercial on the Video?

  • @tazeat
    @tazeat 2 года назад +1

    Damn a 2023 Expedition Limited Max w/ tow package is just over 70k. I know which way I'd go.

  • @jasonw1779
    @jasonw1779 2 года назад

    Why was there a Nissan ad imbedded in the video?

  • @billp5424
    @billp5424 2 года назад +2

    Let me get my head around this. For $107k you get an engine built by a guy who six months ago was wearing a serape and leading a burro.

  • @dougpendleton1266
    @dougpendleton1266 2 года назад +1

    Sure seems like a Jeep supported infomercial...

  • @tempestofruin
    @tempestofruin 2 года назад +1

    Me wishing I could just get a damn civic Si and this Bertha is out here up to 4x as much. No wonder people have old ass cars nobody has enough to cough 100k for these behemoths. Like damn

  • @mathewpennington7049
    @mathewpennington7049 2 года назад

    Welcome to America where not only do most young people dream of owning a home and yay now they get to dream about owning a new vehicle. I will never in my lifetime be able to pay that for a vehicle of that price mark.

  • @wks9326
    @wks9326 2 года назад

    @TFLnow what was the Grand Wagoneer's payload in this configuration?

    • @TheArtofDisruption
      @TheArtofDisruption 2 года назад +6

      1,360 lbs (subtract 600lbs or so for tongue weight) and remaining is about 760lbs, which doesn’t include driver or occupant weight. So there is no way to get your family in that thing and tow 10,000lbs. Just marketing fluff.

    • @eduardobibiloni8881
      @eduardobibiloni8881 2 года назад +1

      I have a Grand Cherokee L with the Pentastar. When we bought it the 6,200 lbs towing capacity was great for our needs, sadly didn't take payload (1,100 lbs) into consideration. Now we have a vehicle that can tow OR can fit the whole family, but won't do both. That is a very important aspect that is overlooked way too often.

    • @MrMsowers22
      @MrMsowers22 2 года назад +3

      The airstream tongue weight is just over1000 pounds

    • @TheArtofDisruption
      @TheArtofDisruption 2 года назад

      @@MrMsowers22 was taking a guess as most suggest 10% of trailer weight as an estimate for tongue weight.

    • @MrMsowers22
      @MrMsowers22 2 года назад +1

      Not guessing. I have an airstream. The tongue weight of that 25 foot trailer is 875 pounds empty. Head cargo propane etc. in my trailer comes in at 1080 pounds on the cat scales

  • @jnmaher1967
    @jnmaher1967 2 года назад

    Airstream should put air bags on. It would be great to raise if needed.

  • @NatureRecycleFlorida
    @NatureRecycleFlorida 2 года назад

    nice air stream

  • @Greecemonkey47
    @Greecemonkey47 2 года назад

    In what world does $107,000 seem a good price for a family vehicle when most familys don't make near 50k per year combined less if they do the adults are 9 times out of 10 working 90-95% of the time just to pay bills and then come home barely eat and pass out only to do it again the next day a 100k+ SUV is completely unreasonable

  • @autotherapy6525
    @autotherapy6525 2 года назад

    This thing is good used to save money. I'll wait 5 years when it's like 40k

  • @golf0729
    @golf0729 Год назад

    What, no Ike Tunnel run?

  • @mikefoehr235
    @mikefoehr235 2 года назад +2

    That price means I could buy 2 new Tundras in 2020 in Ontario, CA.

  • @jnmaher1967
    @jnmaher1967 2 года назад +1

    More time with family, not sure that’s a good thing.

  • @tjohnstrobel
    @tjohnstrobel 2 года назад +2

    $107,000 = reasonable??

  • @johnhenry1395
    @johnhenry1395 Год назад

    Maybe in a few years I’d buy a used one for~$20K....$107K for a glorified STationwagon is CRA-CRA!

  • @art-is-lazy4509
    @art-is-lazy4509 2 года назад +1

    3.0 with all that power and torque means it highly boosted and internally stressed, will be interesting how reliable these engines are, a 3.6 or larger incline 6 would have been a marketing edge that jeep missed.

    • @IGmeanwell
      @IGmeanwell 2 года назад +2

      Hasn’t traditionally in-line sixes been preferred for reliability in this kind of capacity? Trucks were inline sixes for decades for towing. In-line sixes from Toyota and Nissan were renowned for their ability to take high horsepower and boost; part of that is too the inherent benefits of an in-line six design. These turbo charged engines are designed for low rpm torque which puts a lot less stress on the engine compared to a smaller v8 or v6 that has to get high into the rpm’s to get any rig going.

    • @sly9263
      @sly9263 2 года назад +1

      @@IGmeanwell yes but I wouldn't trust one from Stellantis of all manufacturers. A boosted i-6 is a lot more complicated than a V8, of which Dodge already has a bad history of cam and lifter issues with. This is now BMW territory of complexity and engineering, and I'd trust BMW 10 times over with their i6 turbos as they have exponentially more experience than Dodge.

    • @doublebackagain4311
      @doublebackagain4311 2 года назад

      Straight-six engines from yesteryear were tractor engines, they were bulletproof. Today's I6 has zero space between cylinders & sprayed-on liners. All to save weight, but likely at the cost of longevity. They can put out some Impressive numbers tho!

  • @Goot449
    @Goot449 2 года назад

    How the hell did they manage to embed a mid roll nissan ad directly into their video around the 50 second mark.

    • @Radley97
      @Radley97 Год назад

      Sad to see it. Atleast I could skip over it, I guess

  • @airratchetjockey7605
    @airratchetjockey7605 2 года назад

    100k + wow 😮

  • @brandonchilders2118
    @brandonchilders2118 2 года назад

    Sorry Roman but just because you can get your family in there and tow 10,000 lbs, it does not make it seem more reasonable 😮

  • @dgw4049
    @dgw4049 2 года назад

    Shoutouts to all the rich people taking the financial beating on this in 2022 so i can buy it in 2032 for 15k and not feel bad about driving it to the beach every weekend.

  • @jnmaher1967
    @jnmaher1967 2 года назад

    Why can’t the 7.3 Godzilla produce more than 500 horsepower like the hurricane engine

    • @timcartwright4679
      @timcartwright4679 2 года назад

      Cam timing. Proper valve springs and cam have put them over 600 HP NA.

  • @bret9741
    @bret9741 2 года назад

    Wish it looked like the old Wagoneer.

  • @dalejones4322
    @dalejones4322 2 года назад

    I guess there are people buying these expensive vehicles. I don't know any but they must be out there or they wouldn't make them. Hard to believe

  • @TheSara200424
    @TheSara200424 2 года назад

    Holy 💩107k for a jeep🤯 that's double what I paid for my chevy 1500 truck. Man jeep lost their minds

  • @JeffWinter1
    @JeffWinter1 2 года назад +1

    Too expensive. Buy it off Lease and let someone else eat the purchase price.

    • @clearcut6818
      @clearcut6818 2 года назад +1

      The way inflation is going, this thing will be worth more than its MSRP at the end of the 3-year lease.

    • @NorthernRetreat
      @NorthernRetreat 2 года назад

      @@clearcut6818 possibly but with the Mexican engine it might not last that long towing 10Klbs.🤔

    • @clearcut6818
      @clearcut6818 2 года назад

      @@NorthernRetreat buy it and mall-crawl it.

  • @jimbov23
    @jimbov23 Год назад

    I'd just buy an HD truck and tell the extra kids their riding in the airstream before I spend $107k on this.

  • @Mechanix360
    @Mechanix360 2 года назад +1

    Completely ridiculous price! This will ensure failure overall of the wagoner

  • @Breakinlife007
    @Breakinlife007 Год назад

    Now that it has been on sale for awhile and the numbers are garbage they are $12k off on many lots... even at that, no one is buying which tells you reviewers are all scared to speak the truth of something being over priced crap...

  • @garyvanderhoeven808
    @garyvanderhoeven808 11 месяцев назад

    10,000 lbs and 8 people, are you kidding.
    Your insurance and warranty are thrown out the window.
    Don’t try this yourself!!!!!!
    Payload capacity is blown out of the water.

  • @JLR203
    @JLR203 2 года назад

    Buying a Wagoneer or a grand Wagoneer is like buying an apple product you are paying for the name. the price point will make them rare in the roads you will not see too many

  • @Suction_
    @Suction_ 2 года назад

    My 3 bed, 2 bath 1600sq foot house was $190,000. $107,000 for a Joop?
    No.

  • @jamesonpace726
    @jamesonpace726 2 года назад +1

    My family does not cost that much....

  • @joecygon2287
    @joecygon2287 Год назад

    I hope it doesn't rust out in ten years for a hundred and seven thousand

  • @chickenfarm09
    @chickenfarm09 Год назад

    Yea you better keep in the flat lands

  • @HAGGY179
    @HAGGY179 Год назад

    Over 200k you working with a 100k SUV and That trailer bout 130k

  • @AddingLifeAdventure
    @AddingLifeAdventure 2 года назад

    Jeep,You lost me at 100k.
    Nice video