BJP should first change the name of "Hindu Religion" to" Sindhus Religion" because the term "Hindu" is a persian geographical term used for people who live beyond Indus.
IN THIS TIME OF DIGITAL TECHNOLOGY WE ARE NOT ABLE ABLE TO BE HONEST AND EDUCATE THE PEOPLE OF THE COUNTRY FOR DEVELOPMENT SAFETY HEALTHY HABITS AND UN EMPLOYMENT WE ARE LOOKING DISASTER NOT SAFETY OF THE COMING GENERATIONS PLEASE LET US ALL INDIANS UNITE AND SAVE THE COUNTRY FROM THE DESH DROHIS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE PLEASE 😀
Our country has gone to the Dogs and if a country or organization is going to the dogs, it is becoming very much less successful than it was in the past.sad but true 😡
Blind race of narcissism with jingoistic fervour.. keeps on blooming under the current regime,a progeny of Nagpur.. History whether u like it or not will nt fade just by doing this name change mahaabhiyan...
This government is sickened from Policy Paralysis because this government has failed to solve the issues of unemployment, inflation, downfall of economic condition, Petrol Diesel Price Hike, NPA of banks, 45 crores youths abandoned the hope of jobs, 9 lacs Indians abandoned Indian citizenship (2015-2021), 90% foreign debt and take out money by foreign investors from the Indian market. So, they always raise silly issues (according to RSS originated "Mind Distraction Program")
I always have one doubt in my mind why RSS and BJP skips british slavery and directly jumps to mugal rule. Also not able to understand why most of the founders of RSS supported British Rule and opposed our own freedom fighters
@@DS-hk7kx Mind your Language please. Just because you don’t agree to someone’s view doesn’t mean he’s wrong. He has a point which is absolutely correct.
So, what do we change name of Taj Mahal to ? Also Akbar's tomb, Humayun's Tomb, Jehangir's Tomb, Salim Chisti's tomb, BiBi ka Maqbara ? How about changing these to present Rulers names ?
Karachi in Pakistan still has a prominent chowk the Lakshmi Chowk, and many more chowks, roads and other prominent places bearing names of Hindu gods. Probably semi or illiterate BJP netas are unaware about these facts.
@Viru Sahasrabudhey it's really saddening and disheartening that fellow people like you are pulling down own countrymen, even if he is unable to read newspaper still he is our beloved countrymen, hope you understand and Change your thinking🙏
@Viru Sahasrabudhey your level of arguments indicate how much educated you are. Definitely you have graduated from whatsApp university. Congratulations for owning a degree by following godi media.
BJP falsehood must be halted and true picture must be told openly. I urge Ms. Swapna mam to make videos in collaboration with The Wire. Short bite sized videos or a web-series kind of sorts.
Punjab should have changed all Hindu names of cities to Sikh names post 1966. Durgiana temple name should be changed to kaamakhiya devi, kaali devi Patiala temple should be called Gori devi.
I have very little education, but i fail to understand the concept of 'India' without the mughals and sultans! If some people like it or not, it's their problem. We Indians (irrespective of religion caste or creed), trying to deny a part of our history which is part of us, is ridiculous. Wake up!
Wow! If they were such babarians why take ur international guests to 'shameful' monuments and gift pictures of Taj mahal. images.app.goo.gl/5Tw6FgzhMNAXpdp66 Do discuss with ur 6th standard fail chaiwala leaders and fix on a label. And try tokeep ur ignorance to yourself.
You must know the history of you being the second class citizen in his own country paying a tax to those invaders and enslavers for being a native Hindu! You want to pontificate that history of enslavement and be proud of it!? I wonder!
Mr. Thapar was perfectly alright when Calcutta became Kolkata since the communists did so this guy is a heinous journalist in a line of despicable humans hailing from his family
THIS BLOOD THIRSTY BJP. HAS NOTHING TO DO,. HENCE NOW THEY WANT TO CHANGE THE NAMES OF. MOGULS. MODI , N SHAH R OBSESSED WITH THE HINDUISM. IINSTEAD. OF IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF THE LIVES OF UNEMPPOYED N REDUCE THE PRICE OF THE PETROL N DIESEL.
@Average Joe House, toilet, water , electronic,ration facilities, job oriented scheme through narega were introduced by UPA government.Presentgovt has taken the job n made living of the poor hard.Has help the rich like Ambani,Adani to become richer
We cannot change history by changing names. In fact we would learn history from names like the Roshanara Bagh or Sahibabad or Lodi gardens and many others. Again agree that a lot of history is associated with names and changing them would wipe out the connect. But there is one name I am very uncomfortable with and that is Bakhtiarpur in Bihar. The bigot who burnt down the Nalanda University.
Sadly, instead of creating history through our collective wisdom and efforts we've set out on an unfortunate quest to erase our own history. As someone who loves history and avidly delves into the events of historical significance, I'm utterly disheartened.
@@shinyandnew6040 This is the kind of rubbish that frightens me a lot!!!! I belong to the State of Odisha, the erstwhile Kalinga which suffered the highest casualty at the hands of emperor Ashoka. However, we don't abhor him. Instead, if you come to Odisha, you'll find several things named after him.
@@snehasisjena8714 what's the point? Ashok was Indian not a foreigner.He apologised and changed. Still you are free to abhor him.This appeasement and apologetic attitude is what made India a slave and continue to ruin the image. This lack of self respect and bravery.this cowardice and shameful attitude makes me ashamed .I dream of India where citizens are brave and clear in vision not apologetic To clap 2 hands are needed. This one sided love has no future. Stockholm syndrome
@@shinyandnew6040 You should be utterly ashamed of your own divisive, narrow mindset to begin with. This would greatly reduce your burden of shame. The Mughals ruled over India because they defeated all other contemporary kings of that time. They might as well be marauders, but can you rule them out of India's history. Here, we are discussing the issue of selectively rewriting our history. I'm not glorifying the Mughals or any one from the past. I'm in favour of keeping history as it is. Tweaking historical facts isn't gonna change history. Hope this gets etched on that thick skull of yours. That said, I'm sorry if you're made a slave by the Mughals and hope you get the opportunity to travel to the past and change it. India got enslaved because of its divided society and people like you have always been instrumental in keeping that division intact.
@@snehasisjena8714 divisive society... Check Pakistan history if u ever get opportunity.... These sort pseudo liberalism killing and creating thick scull of your version, how u believe that what is written in your books by these nehruvuan historian cum novel writers is right to what extent... In fact correction of history is much needed... This mindset of glorifying aggressors is very common in cool guy type illustration.... Unfortunately
Oh really then why ANTONIO MAINO is soniya Gandhi, why raul vinci is rahul gandhi infact grandgrandfather was Nehru, grandfather was feroz khan, why Gandhi surname is being used by these, why not Nehru Or khan??. If it doesn't give employment?? Infact why were original name changed by aggressors, do you have any clue of this??
@@gurmeetkaur2860 tell this to Antonio maino... Soniya Gandhi.... Why Nehru changed to Gandhi.... Moreover name changed by mughals led to people of your mindset.... It's long term impact.... To keep people relevant
The nearest railway station near Nalanda university ruins is named after the man who got it burnt down. Mr. Karan may term it any thing but it is defending indensible.
No railway station is named Bakhtiyar? Bakhtiyar was the Turk king who destroyed that structure. I call it structure because after Buddhism was forced out of the nation by Brahmin king Pushyamitra Sunga, this Buddhist university of Nálanda was shut down. Though the structure was standing. This structure was destroyed by the Turk king Bakhtiyar.
Sarais were meant for the travellers. All were welcome, irrespective of their religion or caste. Prior to the tradition of constructing sarais, indians of low caste were not allowed inside dharmshalas. Dharmshalas were caste based. Sarai opened its doors to all. It provided great facility to traders and merchants to move far and wide.
Dharmshala was caste based and sarai was secular.... Oh really... Then who are kafir, who were giving jaziya?.. How many low caste hindus were made king by mughals and britishers??? Any idea.... Nonsense of extreme level.... Even kabristaan and mosque in current society of muslim is different for different caste of muslim, pasmanda, ashraaf, ahmadiya, sayyad, pathan, mohajir, shiya sunni.... But intellectual level telling that dharmshala were caste discriminated and sarai were secular..... These lollypop nowadays hard to sell... Think some new MIM BHIM type thing... Or take some inclusive altakiya frode from ARFA sherwani... Video is viral... 😃😃
SARAIS mean Kucha or Mohallah or Ilaaqa or Locality or Place to Stay or Local term or language to call a perticular space meant for travellers or visitors.
गर्मी में अपने घरों के बाहर, छतों पर पानी के बर्तन रखें और हो सके तो छतों पर पक्षियों के लिए छाया की व्यवस्था भी करें। पक्षियों के शरीर में इलेक्ट्रोलाइट की मात्रा संतुलित रहे, इसके लिए पानी मे गुड़ की थोड़ी मात्रा मिलानी चाहिए। इससे गर्मी में तापमान से राहत मिलती है और शरीर में पानी की कमी नहीं होती।
When will they change the name of Republic of India to Republic of Bharat as official name in UN. India is the name given by British, it never was called in as India before British came. Moguls must be laughing on them by now..🤣🤣🤣
Why are you bothered ? You are a Muslim first and your ummah is in Saudi! Whether it is Bharath or India, is for us Hindus to worry about. Converts have to go to Saudi!!
@@SuperAnwarr Thanks it is better to be called Andhbakth than to called a terrorist or Jihadi! You laugh all you want. The world is laughing at you jokers....🤣🤣 Even Saudi you have to clean toilets!!
Correct. We cannot forget the atrocities that the Mugfuls committed on the Hindus!! We should do a Museum depicting their atrocities, the number to temples that were broken etc etc. This will help you and us be reminded of what Muslims are capable off!!
@@anithajesuman3940 he too was Islamist he formed a religion din-i-,illahi which he himself did not follow because Islam cannot let other sect to prevail. He was a murderer
In Delhi Humayunpur adjoins Krishna Nagar & Arjun Nagar, Mohamadpur adjoins Rama Krishna Puram and so many other localities. Delhites live in harmony and total peace. Change in names on behest of Delhi Baniyas is laughable, insane and unjustified.
Ashoka also killed at least 99 of his step brothers to become king. He also killed his own brother Ajatshatru who killed their father Bimbasara. All Mughals are just babies infront of Ashoka & his family.
That's a Buddhist account which wanted to show Ashoka as a tyrant so that they can say to public "see, how Buddhism was able to convert this family killer into a great man". Mughal chroniclers wrote about their deads on the orders of their patrons i.e Mughal emperors themselves.
@rajashashankgutta4334 you are simply bull shitting without any historical endorsement. Whoever gave the account that was historically verified n recorded. And your one just a bull shit.
Sanchi stupa was repaired by pushyamitra shunga , and bharut stupa was built by agnimitra . Ashoka did not kill people on the name of religion he saw the destruction and accepted Buddhism and went on path of ahimsa . There is no solid evidence of clash between Hindus and Buddhism they both existed and flourished. Now coming to name changing it does not happen overnight there is provision and constitution allows it . Everytime you cry for preservation of constitution. Your propaganda shame on you thapar an enslaved 🐶
Curious that the interview ignored name changes of many major Indian cities: Mumbai (Bombay), Chennai (Madras), Bengaluru (Bangalore), Kolkata (Calcutta) etc. Consideration of similar strategy and different politics would have enriched the discussion. I would have liked to hear what both might have said about that.
If that is the case, many city names in the north western India to western UP will have to bear Tamil names, as evident from recent research by Dr.Bala Krishnan, IAS, who has listed the tamil city names in the Indus belt region in his historiographic work, titled Journey of a Civilization.
@Viru Sahasrabudhey get to know the history and geography. Try visiting present Afghanistan and find the names of the villages still remain with Tamil names. If you have some burning sensation apply Bhaktonol. Your ignorance is exposed.
I'm soooooo happy to hear your perspective about this topic dear Madam... it's really eye opener... hope people at the healm of affairs learn something from your immense knowledge..
How do we know that after 50 years the then regime will not want to change the names of monuments, roads etc? If that is so, then why shouldn't the courts put some sense into the guys who want to change names? Or the Parliament to legislate on it to stop such irrational acts?
Some enjoy slavery, some not! Slavery is enjoyed by the "Historians" set in a certain time warp, and who have enjoyed professional or financial success, in their chosen circle. They have nothing to do with national ethos, patriotism, but their success with lucre, govt. Recognition, allotment of b'lows in Lutyens, scholarships, phd. sale etc !
Those people who want to rub off the Mughal contributions by staying and enjoying in Delhi of the Mughals, proudly standing upon the corridor of Red Fort of Shahjahan during important events like Independence day and republic days, have no shame to destroy the 1000 year old wonders contributed by the Muslim rulers of India.
The only reason behind renaming places is deep hatred for islaam born out of complete ignorance of monarchy/feudalism. These revenge seekers don't realise that religious persecution, cruelty, barbarism, war n bloodshed and lust were the hall mark of the monarchs and these characteristics were common to Hindu, muslim, Christian etc, irrespective of the faith they followed. It is most unfortunate that a large section of people from the hindi belt have not understood this simple reality of monarchy. They have simply fallen for vilification of muslim rulers cos deep down their unconscious mind thet harbour animosity against the muslim culture. This is again due to their false understanding of history.
This is literally just a way to create chaos in the country Like, what even is the use of renaming them? These guys are just destroying ancient India's history. BRUH!!
BJP politicians, big or small, in an effort to ingratiate themselves with the High Command, come up with such preposterous ideas. How else can they justify their presence in the Party? They must be seen to be saying anything that is anti-Muslim, to be counted! Thanks Karan, and Swapna Liddle for a very enlightening discussion.
Means when bjp is doing its an agenda but when congress did in the past was a corrective measure. That is pseudo secularism is labelled on those who are biased.
@@BruceWayne-oz9dm Padhai krne ko jarurat tumko hai be naam badalne ko vikas samjhne walo 😂 na itihaas padha na khud ka dharm, har jagah whatsapp ka gyan pelte ho..
@@BruceWayne-oz9dm Jali na logo ne sanatan sanskriti chhod ke Islam qabul kiya😂 forcefully convert 100, 500, 1000 ho skte hai lakho nhi... Or aaj bhi lakho log har saal musalman ban rhe hai, sirf america me hi 20000 har saal jinme 2/3 white aurte hai .. unko kon force kr rha hai.. or ko log religions pr research krte hai wo end me islam kyu qabul kr lete hai...Ye jake tu unhi se puch,... Or ho sake to ved puran geeta or Quran bhi padh fir tu khud samjh jayga dharm kya hota hai. Doodh bahake moot pina, . Moorti se magne wala dharm nhi hota.. sanatan sanskriti ko jabardasti dharm bna rkha hai.
In Bangladesh there are many names after the Hindus goddess but none bothers to change those names ,changing names doesn't mean anything ,it is simply a meanness .
Is this an interview or discussion to mutually agree? An interviewer should be keeping his personal views aside and challenging the views of the interviewee. Mr. Thapar, I had watched you interviewing Mr. Harish Salve and truly enjoyed it. That according to me is the golden standard of an interview.
We need to learn to live with our history so you never forget any parts of it. Colonial era/landmarks are as much part of the history in any nation as modern history so Indians learn to live with it.
When someone conquers a place, there is a tendency to change and name everything....to reflect the religion, language and culture of the conqueror...eventhough the conquerer may be taking over a much richer and more ancient civilization..and which have its own heroes. and historical figures ...So it makes no sense no retain the vestiges of the conqueror for eternity.....after they have been vanquished..or no longer have their power grip over the local population..Example- many places in south east Asia was renamed after being conquered by the Japenese..who ruled for a while..None of the places retain these names today..Even in the US, the statues and symbols of the confederate army ..are being destroyed..eventhough they are arguably historical ..and are products of its own people..not conquerors in the normal sense....So there are lots of justification..to make suitable changes..to names of places ..in keeping to the times..and the sentiments of the local people..
Good that the names be changed… no tyrants name be left… no glorification. Its heart ranching and very dissociating from rich and noble Hindu history of Rama
Noble hndu history of Rama? Its a pure mythological character. Not even a single evidence is there to support his reign. No one even knows where he was born exactly. The Babri masjid issue is a pure political play with literally no evidence. Moreover Muslims usually dont convert a idol worshipping temple to a Masjid unless it was previously a monotheistic place of worship . Now you see, you may or may not believe in Ram. But the twist is those books written about him is years after his death by anonymous people. I request you to verify from your own end. Peace
come to devangari or tumkur orchitradurga and see who the cities are, rejuvenation of old ponds, smart street lights, oldes, aims medical university new airport. for us this is smart cities
The leftists will aways find some weird explanation as to why the symbols of Mughal rule should be allowed to exist. Precisely these sorts of people were responsible why India was ruled by Foreigners in the first place
Gupta may have no understanding of history, but his request has nothing to do with history. It is about politics - which he does understand well, and which is at war with accurate history.
This brahmin dominated BJP n their RSS cronies seem to breath and sleep on islamophobia...aren't the Brahmins originally Greeks who travelled to India to colonize the poor dark skinned indians?..what do they want next ? That everyone must wear dhotis?... Diversity is strength of any country and should be protected by the citizens .. she's absolutely correct and made great points on India's historical heritage... hopefully she'll stand up forcefully against this silly name change till they drop their agenda...
Personally, I don’t see an issue with changing names of towns. It’s happened through history by the rulers. But I think as a democracy, the country should not be bothering with this changing names business. And let them grow organically.
If it was upto these people, they would says India is a Islamic Republic! Get rid of all these Mughal names across India...Replace it with Muslims who have contributed to this nation.
The present names were given during Mughal regime replacing the original Indian names.What is wrong in restoring original names.This can't be termed undesirable.
@Viru Sahasrabudhey By your logic tolerants following medieval era law book which discriminate against all non dwija men and all women should be boycotted by others. And don't forget tolerants alos invaded other countries like Sri Lanka and Malaya.
what Ashoka did in Kalinga and even before, we all are aware with it. what he did was cruel and it was similar to what many other ruler did to build empire. so why should name the places after him and also respect him? answere is simple- 1. no any empire builder you will find who renounce the violence after winning the battle instead of continuing with same model to further expand the empire. 2. Ashok became the messenger of peace after the battle of kalinga. his messages you will find in many inscriptions .
Ashoka did not destroy temple ashoka killed only in war not without any reason he didnot invade foreign country, after war he converted to Buddhism and spread peace whole Asia
Not really. After adopting Buddhism, Ashoka had reacted violently to one painting by a main monk showing Buddha bowing to Mahavir. He declared that he would reward anyone a gold coin for every head of a jain monk beheaded. About 50,000 jain monks were beheaded in his kingdom. Remember this was after he adopted Buddhism.
Lol so if renaming Delhi roads that bore British names was ok immediately after independence, why isn’t it ok to rename roads that bear the names of the Mughals, who were, after all, foreign Turkic Uzbeks who invaded and ruled over vast swathes of India? 🧐
I think present BJP rule will be written in Indian history as short sighted , narrow minded , jealous , foolish and religion , cast and colour based hatred with fellow citizens , is their characteristics of rule .
Only in your islamic history else this period will be known as the period where further emancipation of muslim women happened (triple talaq), establishment of Ram Mandir at Ayodhya, rebuilding of Kashi Vishwanath Mandir, digital India on scale, welfare measures for poor: water, gas, health,insurance, direct benefit transfer, semiconductors etc..
"Manuwadi" don't waste time in creating/making something. They believe in Cut/Copy/Pest/Change policy only. They masterfully played this game many times in Indian history, in every field of life.
In Muslim era, the Nalandas were burnt, not a single university was built by invaders, only British built universities.. It is foolish to continue names of Muslim era, for they disseminated ignorance to Indian.
They have given you a deep culture.How to live..eat.behave. How to wear...They have given you the Administration's..Revenue Roads. Many of our Governament offices are running in those buildings which they have constructed ..Now the system of governance in your hand ply as you like who stopped you ..Good luck..
This is stupid conversation, because no matter what reasons are given, that is only to hide the real reason. BJP wants all things Muslim removed from India, including names of things and places. If you do not understand that, you go about having these unnecessary interviews (of course it is good for Karan) and raise arguments. Both sides, these elite pseudo Englishmen that Karan represents and the dumb wit Hindutva supporting people (I would NOT call them traditionalists or even Hindus as all they are trying to create is an exact opposite, but equal to the Muslim culture i.e Green v/s Saffron, Hijab v/s Saffron stole etc..) are hypocrites and trying to justify their side of the argument by lying and making up things or spinning something bad as good or spinning something good as bad. I am so fed up of both these sides. God save our country.
When a government doesn't want to solve real issues, they resort to such time wasting, money wasting indulgences that are impractical, senseless and useless! Why are we even allowing such indulgence? Has Hinduism not survived British Rules, Mughal invasions, etc? Why are we being made to believe that our religious identity is dying? To keep this paranoia alive, everything foreign is, decried but we still choose to brag about "foreign" recognition! Modi has made the world recognise India! Excuse me, I believe it is World that always, recognised India as unique. It is the West that actually made us appreciate our heritage. Yoga etc would have died long ago had it not been for the likes of the Beatles etc to draw our attention back to our heritage! These half-baked, ill read, pessimistic, frog-in-the-well minded politicians who rose to power by sheer gunda gardi are literally brain washing the equally half baked, I'll read, "passed-to-get-a-job", rote- learning educated masses. Sorry but honestly I see our people losing the ability to think for themselves. In this world of instance- everything, we have become gobblers of instant information without thinking if it is based on facts!
A guest invited can never be invasive. Can seven great oceanic water clean the letters imprinted in the papers of the past. Probably the souls of Rana Sangha, Medni Roy, Daulat Khan plus more can better tell. Rana Sangha didn't attack Agra as committed and promised had annoyed and convinced the man to stay back, knowing and assuming the self win solely. Hasan Mewati, the commander, did his best on behalf of Rana.!
BS, Rana Sanga did not need to ask a lost vander who was thrown out from his own native land of Samarkand & was ruling a pitty kingdom of Kabul before winning Panipat [1526] and more importantly Khanua [1527] On contray, Rana Sanga established one of most powerful Indian kingdom of that age even asserted by few Baburnama chronicles that he and Krishna Deva Raya were two greatest Hindu ruler of that age.. He did stayed in India because he has no choice to go back to his poverty stricken kingdom of Kabul where he was failing to fulfill food supplies requirements of his army.. Hasan Khan Mewati did not do any favour in fighting with Sanga (his faction was small 5k anyway) just like Ibhrahim Khan Gardi fought with Marathas in Panipat [1761]..doesnt change the fact that those were Hindu armies and Hasan did not lead last stand for Rajputs either it was done by Prithviraj Kachwaha of Amber and Raj Rana Ajja of Mewar.. PS:- No contemporary Hindu/Muslim/Sikh/Jain writter mention about Sanga sending ambassdor to Kabul to invite a inconsequestional prince. [Read: G.N Sharma excellent rebut of this fabel in Mewar and Mughal Emperors]
All places whose names were changed under Islamic rulers to signify a religious win over Bharat's civilization must be changed, and one should not have any problem in this if we really want some common meeting point between today's Hindus and Muslims.
However morally righteous you are Karan, this is another issue of limited interest to common man. Yet amongst the urbane & enlightened followers of your podcast, it will echo as ‘discrimination’ against a particular community. Adesh Gupta & his ilk care 2 hoots about it - they aim to get the majority votes by this name change exercise. This polarization strategy has been successful since time immemorial. It has been applied by all so called great leaders in politics, religion, military etc. Historically, in 11th century, Pope Urban II achieved great success in uniting Christians against Muslims in order to reclaim the Holy Land, Jerusalem. Sadly, his was the first of seven major military campaigns fought over the next two centuries known as the Crusades, the bloody repercussions of which are still felt today (ISIS, Taliban........) Indians will do well to remember this fact & instead focus on 21st century economic crusades.
Chaiwala does not want you to know that - He does not have to die (Let alone his mama still alive) to put his name on Stadium. But that did not stop him to kill 1000s becos of Covid spread (forcing patrons) to sit in this Gujju named Stadia in his name (while still alive) and in Kotla stadium (He forced to open after having changed its name on Jaitley posthumously), 1000s including players, staff, admin who went in and out spread the covid in 2 communities and ultimately shut down the ipl
Change of label, doesn't guarantee change of product! I'm still looking out for those fabled 'smart cities'! Moreover, the present day change in name of places is not an exercise in erasing history and memory of some fictitious slavery, but rather entering a new one instead!
You have no idea what a smart City is. You still believe that it is something like Android phone . For a better example look for indore it is on the way to become smartest
After 1000 years of Muslims and British rule, it is time for the local people to rename some of the names. It is unwise to say you can’t change the name. I am neither Congress, BJP or any political party, and not belong to any religion. I am in favour of changing Hyderabad name to Golkonda, the fort built for protection in 13th century. Hyderabad was built much later as an overflow. Without Golkonda, there is no Hyderabad. Hyderabad population has grown up from 200,000 in 1948 under Nizam to 1.5 Crores today. Muslims not only forced Hindus converted into Islam, they also robbed their identity by changing their family names. Christians also did the same to Indians. They could have given a first name a religious name but changing Family name is a violation of religious practices. This is a welcome change to name their places with their local heroes.
Decades back it was a big joke about the Western tourists who commented that all Indian cities and towns villages are poor and bad.... names ending in.... pur.....bad
Rewriting history as per their political agenda is diverting attention from core issues of unemployment, underdeveloment and so on.
Her name "liddle (christian)" says it all.
xtians r the silent but deadly ones.
then u rally to bring out the unemployment, underdevelopment
Who is asking Karan Thapar to discuss this when he could be keeping the attention focused on unemployment, underdevelopment and so on ?
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Absolutely correct.
@@bkk5153 why not?
BJP should first change the name of "Hindu Religion" to" Sindhus Religion" because the term "Hindu" is a persian geographical term used for people who live beyond Indus.
Yes
Absolutely right !
Sindhu/indu/hindu are interchangeable!
The word Hindu is also there in scriptures like mahabharat
IN THIS TIME OF DIGITAL TECHNOLOGY WE ARE NOT ABLE ABLE TO BE HONEST AND EDUCATE THE PEOPLE OF THE COUNTRY FOR DEVELOPMENT SAFETY HEALTHY HABITS AND UN EMPLOYMENT WE ARE LOOKING DISASTER NOT SAFETY OF THE COMING GENERATIONS PLEASE LET US ALL INDIANS UNITE AND SAVE THE COUNTRY FROM THE DESH DROHIS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE PLEASE 😀
Iittle knowledge is dangerous
Our country has gone to the Dogs and if a country or organization is going to the dogs, it is becoming very much less successful than it was in the past.sad but true 😡
don't show papers, wear hijab, keep loudspeaker with highest decibels for azaan, pelt stones on hindu processions then u cry victim.
Please go to any Islamic country don’t be here.
Blind race of narcissism with jingoistic fervour.. keeps on blooming under the current regime,a progeny of Nagpur.. History whether u like it or not will nt fade just by doing this name change mahaabhiyan...
This government is sickened from Policy Paralysis because this government has failed to solve the issues of unemployment, inflation, downfall of economic condition, Petrol Diesel Price Hike, NPA of banks, 45 crores youths abandoned the hope of jobs, 9 lacs Indians abandoned Indian citizenship (2015-2021), 90% foreign debt and take out money by foreign investors from the Indian market. So, they always raise silly issues (according to RSS originated "Mind Distraction Program")
You are distracted, This topic itself is different, it's a civilizational issue
Mr thundelbolt. You are correct. You are dealing with singh. No brain.
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Very true bro they have miserable failed in governance but luckily successful with flying colours in communal polarization.
@@wahidgulkhan1 100% agree !
I always have one doubt in my mind why RSS and BJP skips british slavery and directly jumps to mugal rule.
Also not able to understand why most of the founders of RSS supported British Rule and opposed our own freedom fighters
Sultan e Mysore was the worst nightmare to british. Still after a few centuries, he is a nightmare to the tails and stooges of british.
A chutiya comment
@@DS-hk7kx kuch javab nahi mila dene ke liyea. Chutiya batha diya
@@DS-hk7kx
Mind your Language please. Just because you don’t agree to someone’s view doesn’t mean he’s wrong. He has a point which is absolutely correct.
According to RSS and BJP British never were invaders or put India into slavery. coz British were not Muslims.
What’s the meaning of Sarai ? It just means a place to rest
Literally : An inn
Per gobar bhakton ko nhi pata
saray, seray or sarai.... is a persian origin word. many hotels in UAE are also named after. may be in some other countries also.
So, what do we change name of Taj Mahal to ? Also Akbar's tomb, Humayun's Tomb, Jehangir's Tomb, Salim Chisti's tomb, BiBi ka Maqbara ? How about changing these to present Rulers names ?
Suggested name in given order- Feku Mahal, Godi Nagar, Bulldozer Niwas, Jumlebaj Nagar, Mota Bhai Villa, BiBi ka Chabutara.
We may, with overwhelming happiness but these present sinners aren't going to die that easily!!!!!!
@@snehasisjena8714: They don’t care, living or dead e.g. Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel Stadium, Ahmedabad change name is recent example.
@Viru Sahasrabudhey: National drink: Gomutra, National Snack: Gobar Paneer Samosa?
@Viru Sahasrabudhey: Excellent. You have snacks, drink and then food. Enjoy your meal.
Karachi in Pakistan still has a prominent chowk the Lakshmi Chowk, and many more chowks, roads and other prominent places bearing names of Hindu gods.
Probably semi or illiterate BJP netas are unaware about these facts.
Handful left, most have been changed, layalpur has become faislabad, wake up
If Congress had changed names, these people would have praised them.
When power goes to the hand of illiterate, great civilization always faces this type of problem.
But Khan Sir advices that Puncture putras must lift themselves from Puncture fixing and get literate...
@@thedailykeyboard4312 aur be Andhbhakt sab badhiya
@Viru Sahasrabudhey it's really saddening and disheartening that fellow people like you are pulling down own countrymen, even if he is unable to read
newspaper still he is our beloved countrymen, hope you understand and Change your thinking🙏
@Viru Sahasrabudhey your way of argument itself indicates your literacy level.
@Viru Sahasrabudhey your level of arguments indicate how much educated you are. Definitely you have graduated from whatsApp university. Congratulations for owning a degree by following godi media.
BJP falsehood must be halted and true picture must be told openly.
I urge Ms. Swapna mam to make videos in collaboration with The Wire.
Short bite sized videos or a web-series kind of sorts.
left liberandu historical cries when things don't go their way. it is a meltdown of the dirty ecosystem
Punjab should have changed all Hindu names of cities to Sikh names post 1966. Durgiana temple name should be changed to kaamakhiya devi, kaali devi Patiala temple should be called Gori devi.
But there's already a temple named Kamaakhya in Guwahati.
So much fuss in changing the names. Let's drop it.
That won’t happen, you will be called Ganesh from today onwards
@Viru Sahasrabudhey an iron lady tried to change them. Now that's history
Khalistani is a Islamist with turban
I have very little education, but i fail to understand the concept of 'India' without the mughals and sultans! If some people like it or not, it's their problem. We Indians (irrespective of religion caste or creed), trying to deny a part of our history which is part of us, is ridiculous. Wake up!
Agree osama shaheed should also get university
You actually suffer a lot since you are uneducated.
Why not get educated?
It is never too late to start any education, is it not ??
Wow! If they were such babarians why take ur international guests to 'shameful' monuments and gift pictures of Taj mahal. images.app.goo.gl/5Tw6FgzhMNAXpdp66
Do discuss with ur 6th standard fail chaiwala leaders and fix on a label. And try tokeep ur ignorance to yourself.
Well said
You must know the history of you being the second class citizen in his own country paying a tax to those invaders and enslavers for being a native Hindu! You want to pontificate that history of enslavement and be proud of it!? I wonder!
Mr. Thapar was perfectly alright when Calcutta became Kolkata since the communists did so this guy is a heinous journalist in a line of despicable humans hailing from his family
No that was also wrong. Where did you see Mr Thapar supporting that.
Instead of Changing the names, the central government should pay its attention for improving the poor economiccondition of
THIS BLOOD THIRSTY BJP. HAS NOTHING TO DO,. HENCE NOW THEY WANT TO CHANGE THE NAMES OF. MOGULS. MODI , N SHAH R OBSESSED WITH THE HINDUISM. IINSTEAD. OF IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF THE LIVES OF UNEMPPOYED N REDUCE THE PRICE OF THE PETROL N DIESEL.
@@hyd916 thanks
Name change proposal can be a distraction from being conscious of the poor economic conditions.
They are napunsak to improve the poor economic constion in the nation, so they are doing such eunuch acts....
@Average Joe House, toilet, water , electronic,ration facilities, job oriented scheme through narega were introduced by UPA government.Presentgovt has taken the job n made living of the poor hard.Has help the rich like Ambani,Adani to become richer
We cannot change history by changing names. In fact we would learn history from names like the Roshanara Bagh or Sahibabad or Lodi gardens and many others. Again agree that a lot of history is associated with names and changing them would wipe out the connect. But there is one name I am very uncomfortable with and that is Bakhtiarpur in Bihar. The bigot who burnt down the Nalanda University.
Balanced opinion; I agree with you.
he did absolutley right when criminal of modi,advani,vajpayee type hiding in it and causing law and order problem!!
Her name "liddle (christian)" says it all.
xtians r the silent but deadly ones.
@@drzakir123 boring
We can learn about them in books but we don’t need to make our villages after them
Sadly, instead of creating history through our collective wisdom and efforts we've set out on an unfortunate quest to erase our own history. As someone who loves history and avidly delves into the events of historical significance, I'm utterly disheartened.
We don't want to glorify nightmares. Would you keep things of someone who murder your family? Think.
You are saying all this cz you are safe now
@@shinyandnew6040 This is the kind of rubbish that frightens me a lot!!!! I belong to the State of Odisha, the erstwhile Kalinga which suffered the highest casualty at the hands of emperor Ashoka. However, we don't abhor him. Instead, if you come to Odisha, you'll find several things named after him.
@@snehasisjena8714 what's the point? Ashok was Indian not a foreigner.He apologised and changed. Still you are free to abhor him.This appeasement and apologetic attitude is what made India a slave and continue to ruin the image. This lack of self respect and bravery.this cowardice and shameful attitude makes me ashamed .I dream of India where citizens are brave and clear in vision not apologetic To clap 2 hands are needed. This one sided love has no future. Stockholm syndrome
@@shinyandnew6040 You should be utterly ashamed of your own divisive, narrow mindset to begin with. This would greatly reduce your burden of shame. The Mughals ruled over India because they defeated all other contemporary kings of that time. They might as well be marauders, but can you rule them out of India's history. Here, we are discussing the issue of selectively rewriting our history. I'm not glorifying the Mughals or any one from the past. I'm in favour of keeping history as it is. Tweaking historical facts isn't gonna change history. Hope this gets etched on that thick skull of yours. That said, I'm sorry if you're made a slave by the Mughals and hope you get the opportunity to travel to the past and change it.
India got enslaved because of its divided society and people like you have always been instrumental in keeping that division intact.
@@snehasisjena8714 divisive society... Check Pakistan history if u ever get opportunity.... These sort pseudo liberalism killing and creating thick scull of your version, how u believe that what is written in your books by these nehruvuan historian cum novel writers is right to what extent... In fact correction of history is much needed... This mindset of glorifying aggressors is very common in cool guy type illustration.... Unfortunately
Thanks for the excellent debate name changing doesn't give anyone employment, removes poverty, and prices Hike.
Then ask them to change … what is the point to discuss here
Oh really then why ANTONIO MAINO is soniya Gandhi, why raul vinci is rahul gandhi infact grandgrandfather was Nehru, grandfather was feroz khan, why Gandhi surname is being used by these, why not Nehru Or khan??. If it doesn't give employment??
Infact why were original name changed by aggressors, do you have any clue of this??
Changing names cannot change history and we should focus on solving current problems like a sinking economy
@@gurmeetkaur2860 Yes agreed 💯 to what you have said 👍🙏
@@gurmeetkaur2860 tell this to Antonio maino... Soniya Gandhi.... Why Nehru changed to Gandhi.... Moreover name changed by mughals led to people of your mindset.... It's long term impact.... To keep people relevant
The nearest railway station near Nalanda university ruins is named after the man who got it burnt down. Mr. Karan may term it any thing but it is defending indensible.
No railway station is named Bakhtiyar? Bakhtiyar was the Turk king who destroyed that structure. I call it structure because after Buddhism was forced out of the nation by Brahmin king Pushyamitra Sunga, this Buddhist university of Nálanda was shut down.
Though the structure was standing. This structure was destroyed by the Turk king Bakhtiyar.
@@rationalguy1 nalanda was built by kumargupt of gupta dynasty read again my friend
Look the poision BJP leaders keep in heart against the Muslims and it's past glory ....
Sarais were meant for the travellers. All were welcome, irrespective of their religion or caste. Prior to the tradition of constructing sarais, indians of low caste were not allowed inside dharmshalas. Dharmshalas were caste based. Sarai opened its doors to all. It provided great facility to traders and merchants to move far and wide.
Which history told u this
Dharmshala was caste based and sarai was secular.... Oh really... Then who are kafir, who were giving jaziya?.. How many low caste hindus were made king by mughals and britishers??? Any idea.... Nonsense of extreme level.... Even kabristaan and mosque in current society of muslim is different for different caste of muslim, pasmanda, ashraaf, ahmadiya, sayyad, pathan, mohajir, shiya sunni.... But intellectual level telling that dharmshala were caste discriminated and sarai were secular..... These lollypop nowadays hard to sell... Think some new MIM BHIM type thing... Or take some inclusive altakiya frode from ARFA sherwani... Video is viral... 😃😃
SARAIS mean Kucha or Mohallah or Ilaaqa or Locality or Place to Stay or Local term or language to call a perticular space meant for travellers or visitors.
In kashmir how many years they wait for proper liveing now B J P at lost it's happened you are pressing saria is ?
@@classicalgem what is the meaning of dharmshala then
'Cretinism'!
Such an apt word for this government.
bm means cretinism
गर्मी में अपने घरों के बाहर, छतों पर पानी के बर्तन रखें और हो सके तो छतों पर पक्षियों के लिए छाया की व्यवस्था भी करें। पक्षियों के शरीर में इलेक्ट्रोलाइट की मात्रा संतुलित रहे, इसके लिए पानी मे गुड़ की थोड़ी मात्रा मिलानी चाहिए। इससे गर्मी में तापमान से राहत मिलती है और शरीर में पानी की कमी नहीं होती।
गुड़ ज़रूरी नहीं है। पानी काफ़ी है। नेक सलाह के लिए शुक्रिया।
Stupid ruler ruling foolish voters. What else to expect?
Wonderful interview!
When will they change the name of Republic of India to Republic of Bharat as official name in UN. India is the name given by British, it never was called in as India before British came. Moguls must be laughing on them by now..🤣🤣🤣
Why are you bothered ? You are a Muslim first and your ummah is in Saudi! Whether it is Bharath or India, is for us Hindus to worry about. Converts have to go to Saudi!!
@@krishvenkat8518 ye market me naya aaya kya.. Saudi chale jao.. heheheheh
Andhbhakt.🤪🤪
@@SuperAnwarr Thanks it is better to be called Andhbakth than to called a terrorist or Jihadi! You laugh all you want. The world is laughing at you jokers....🤣🤣 Even Saudi you have to clean toilets!!
Hats off to Karan Thapar for raising these topics...
One cannot change history by changing names
Wow. Brilliant. Puncture bana.
Correct. We cannot forget the atrocities that the Mugfuls committed on the Hindus!! We should do a Museum depicting their atrocities, the number to temples that were broken etc etc. This will help you and us be reminded of what Muslims are capable off!!
Exactly tu bhi hindu hi hai , naam badal lene se muslim thori ho gya.
@@anithajesuman3940 every Mughal is a plunderer..should be removed
@@anithajesuman3940 he too was Islamist he formed a religion din-i-,illahi which he himself did not follow because Islam cannot let other sect to prevail. He was a murderer
Most of the name of roads, square,railway station etc of Britisher rulers had been changed, but no noise from historians
Who said no noice. Similar things which were said then.. changing names is just nonsense.
@@advityat😂😂😂😂
In Delhi Humayunpur adjoins Krishna Nagar & Arjun Nagar, Mohamadpur adjoins Rama Krishna Puram and so many other localities. Delhites live in harmony and total peace. Change in names on behest of Delhi Baniyas is laughable, insane and unjustified.
Ashoka also killed at least 99 of his step brothers to become king. He also killed his own brother Ajatshatru who killed their father Bimbasara. All Mughals are just babies infront of Ashoka & his family.
That's a Buddhist account which wanted to show Ashoka as a tyrant so that they can say to public "see, how Buddhism was able to convert this family killer into a great man".
Mughal chroniclers wrote about their deads on the orders of their patrons i.e Mughal emperors themselves.
@rajashashankgutta4334 you are simply bull shitting without any historical endorsement. Whoever gave the account that was historically verified n recorded. And your one just a bull shit.
Keep going Mr.Thapar. India needs more people like you.
Sanchi stupa was repaired by pushyamitra shunga , and bharut stupa was built by agnimitra .
Ashoka did not kill people on the name of religion he saw the destruction and accepted Buddhism and went on path of ahimsa .
There is no solid evidence of clash between Hindus and Buddhism they both existed and flourished.
Now coming to name changing it does not happen overnight there is provision and constitution allows it .
Everytime you cry for preservation of constitution.
Your propaganda shame on you thapar an enslaved 🐶
Radio Rwanda is the best example of what happend with Hindus in Kashmir in 1990.
Curious that the interview ignored name changes of many major Indian cities: Mumbai (Bombay), Chennai (Madras), Bengaluru (Bangalore), Kolkata (Calcutta) etc. Consideration of similar strategy and different politics would have enriched the discussion. I would have liked to hear what both might have said about that.
The same logic applies here. Many of us who live in these cities still refer to them by their old names!!
How can the truth be wiped out? It will always arise out of ashes.
If that is the case, many city names in the north western India to western UP will have to bear Tamil names, as evident from recent research by Dr.Bala Krishnan, IAS, who has listed the tamil city names in the Indus belt region in his historiographic work, titled Journey of a Civilization.
Accordingly yes. 👍
Skyfall name Changed 🤑
@Viru Sahasrabudhey get to know the history and geography. Try visiting present Afghanistan and find the names of the villages still remain with Tamil names. If you have some burning sensation apply Bhaktonol. Your ignorance is exposed.
Excellent exposition indeed .
Unfortunate developments .
Ms. Swapna Liddle, you need to make history bite-sized videos in Hindi and In English in collaboration with The Wire❤️🇮🇳
That will means Hindu Bashing!
She has videos on old historical places
Way of doing propaganda is the suggestion so it can be used for twiter and tiktok.
Please vote out this illiterate party BJP
I'm soooooo happy to hear your perspective about this topic dear Madam... it's really eye opener... hope people at the healm of affairs learn something from your immense knowledge..
yeah worship our prosecutors, build statues for them, name the villages, good. because they found one tablet which spoke good of the invaders
@@vmadhu1456 Did You Get Your Two Rupees ?????????
Her name "liddle (christian)" says it all.
xtians r the silent but deadly ones.
@@kedtiwari very good rebuttal
@@kedtiwari 👌👍😆😆
How do we know that after 50 years the then regime will not want to change the names of monuments, roads etc?
If that is so, then why shouldn't the courts put some sense into the guys who want to change names? Or the Parliament to legislate on it to stop such irrational acts?
Some enjoy slavery, some not! Slavery is enjoyed by the "Historians" set in a certain time warp, and who have enjoyed professional or financial success, in their chosen circle. They have nothing to do with national ethos, patriotism, but their success with lucre, govt. Recognition, allotment of b'lows in Lutyens, scholarships, phd. sale etc !
Those people who want to rub off the Mughal contributions by staying and enjoying in Delhi of the Mughals, proudly standing upon the corridor of Red Fort of Shahjahan during important events like Independence day and republic days, have no shame to destroy the 1000 year old wonders contributed by the Muslim rulers of India.
Red Fort was originally Rajput as indeed Raisina Hill, which had a fort plus villages before lutyens ??
The only reason behind renaming places is deep hatred for islaam born out of complete ignorance of monarchy/feudalism.
These revenge seekers don't realise that religious persecution, cruelty, barbarism, war n bloodshed and lust were the hall mark of the monarchs and these characteristics were common to Hindu, muslim, Christian etc, irrespective of the faith they followed.
It is most unfortunate that a large section of people from the hindi belt have not understood this simple reality of monarchy. They have simply fallen for vilification of muslim rulers cos deep down their unconscious mind thet harbour animosity against the muslim culture. This is again due to their false understanding of history.
Her name "liddle (christian)" says it all.
xtians r the silent but deadly ones.
This is literally just a way to create chaos in the country
Like, what even is the use of renaming them?
These guys are just destroying ancient India's history.
BRUH!!
Chutiye vo mediaeval hai ancient nahi. Name changing zaroori hai kiuki vo invaders theee.
BJP politicians, big or small, in an effort to ingratiate themselves with the High Command, come up with such preposterous ideas. How else can they justify their presence in the Party? They must be seen to be saying anything that is anti-Muslim, to be counted!
Thanks Karan, and Swapna Liddle for a very enlightening discussion.
इस्लामिक इतिहासकार कब्जा करके बैठे थे भारतीय इतिहास पर अब उनका असली चेहरा दिखने लगा है
Means when bjp is doing its an agenda but when congress did in the past was a corrective measure. That is pseudo secularism is labelled on those who are biased.
Thanks wire for bringing this beautiful conversation.
Naam badalne se itihaas nhi badlega 😎
To fir problem kyu hai itna.
Padhai kar jaake.
See tmhara naaam bdla tm muslim ho gye
@@BruceWayne-oz9dm Padhai krne ko jarurat tumko hai be naam badalne ko vikas samjhne walo 😂 na itihaas padha na khud ka dharm, har jagah whatsapp ka gyan pelte ho..
@@AfsanAhmed08 naam to tumlog ke ancestors ne badla tha forcefully convert hoke.
Reality me toh hindu hi huye , naam badalne se kya hota hai😂
@@BruceWayne-oz9dm Jali na logo ne sanatan sanskriti chhod ke Islam qabul kiya😂 forcefully convert 100, 500, 1000 ho skte hai lakho nhi... Or aaj bhi lakho log har saal musalman ban rhe hai, sirf america me hi 20000 har saal jinme 2/3 white aurte hai .. unko kon force kr rha hai.. or ko log religions pr research krte hai wo end me islam kyu qabul kr lete hai...Ye jake tu unhi se puch,... Or ho sake to ved puran geeta or Quran bhi padh fir tu khud samjh jayga dharm kya hota hai. Doodh bahake moot pina, . Moorti se magne wala dharm nhi hota.. sanatan sanskriti ko jabardasti dharm bna rkha hai.
In Bangladesh there are many names after the Hindus goddess but none bothers to change those names ,changing names doesn't mean anything ,it is simply a meanness .
so you change ur name to Abhyuday Arora
Is this an interview or discussion to mutually agree? An interviewer should be keeping his personal views aside and challenging the views of the interviewee. Mr. Thapar, I had watched you interviewing Mr. Harish Salve and truly enjoyed it. That according to me is the golden standard of an interview.
No interrogation in case they are both librandus
Her name "liddle (christian)" says it all.
xtians r the silent but deadly ones.
Yeah Exactly. Like how our PM is challenged in his interviews!!
Not always. Sometimes it is to understand some topic from an expert.
@@biswarup077
Thanks for being open minded.
We need to learn to live with our history so you never forget any parts of it. Colonial era/landmarks are as much part of the history in any nation as modern history so Indians learn to live with it.
When someone conquers a place, there is a tendency to change and name everything....to reflect the religion, language and culture of the conqueror...eventhough the conquerer may be taking over a much richer and more ancient civilization..and which have its own heroes. and historical figures ...So it makes no sense no retain the vestiges of the conqueror for eternity.....after they have been vanquished..or no longer have their power grip over the local population..Example- many places in south east Asia was renamed after being conquered by the Japenese..who ruled for a while..None of the places retain these names today..Even in the US, the statues and symbols of the confederate army ..are being destroyed..eventhough they are arguably historical ..and are products of its own people..not conquerors in the normal sense....So there are lots of justification..to make suitable changes..to names of places ..in keeping to the times..and the sentiments of the local people..
Very sad and disheartening for all the Indians as a whole.
Good that the names be changed… no tyrants name be left… no glorification. Its heart ranching and very dissociating from rich and noble Hindu history of Rama
You must change YOUR name, so we know who the author of this illiterate opinion is
Noble hndu history of Rama? Its a pure mythological character.
Not even a single evidence is there to support his reign. No one even knows where he was born exactly.
The Babri masjid issue is a pure political play with literally no evidence. Moreover Muslims usually dont convert a idol worshipping temple to a Masjid unless it was previously a monotheistic place of worship .
Now you see, you may or may not believe in Ram. But the twist is those books written about him is years after his death by anonymous people.
I request you to verify from your own end.
Peace
History is like layers in archaeology where each layer indicates a new era, new changes, new names.
Name Change of 40 Villages in Delhi is like "Smart cities without any new development" ( Varanasi, Allahabad Aligarh, Mughalsarai........)
come to devangari or tumkur orchitradurga and see who the cities are, rejuvenation of old ponds, smart street lights, oldes, aims medical university new airport. for us this is smart cities
Her name "liddle (christian)" says it all.
xtians r the silent but deadly ones.
Just like when Connaught Place became Rajiv Chowk, Nalanda became Bakhtiarpur, Devgiri became Daulatabad ....
Pragyaj
Keep crying
Painful history must be erased, murderers should be eradicated n not remembered n celebrated
The leftists will aways find some weird explanation as to why the symbols of Mughal rule should be allowed to exist. Precisely these sorts of people were responsible why India was ruled by Foreigners in the first place
Thanx Mr Thapar and madam Liddle.
Gupta may have no understanding of history, but his request has nothing to do with history. It is about politics - which he does understand well, and which is at war with accurate history.
And u punture guys know all hai naa asmani book
This brahmin dominated BJP n their RSS cronies seem to breath and sleep on islamophobia...aren't the Brahmins originally Greeks who travelled to India to colonize the poor dark skinned indians?..what do they want next ? That everyone must wear dhotis?... Diversity is strength of any country and should be protected by the citizens .. she's absolutely correct and made great points on India's historical heritage... hopefully she'll stand up forcefully against this silly name change till they drop their agenda...
Dare you even think of doing it...Don't you politicians have better things to do than merely changing names
Because they have a deep inferiority complex that they cannot bulild such wonderful structures just like a poor man envies a rich mans house.
Bhakts be like our Kings killed for conquest but Muslim rulers killed for religion 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
RSS/Bjp should change thier religion name of hinduism given by first by persian and then british!!
Personally, I don’t see an issue with changing names of towns. It’s happened through history by the rulers.
But I think as a democracy, the country should not be bothering with this changing names business. And let them grow organically.
If it was upto these people, they would says India is a Islamic Republic! Get rid of all these Mughal names across India...Replace it with Muslims who have contributed to this nation.
Persistent smile on Swapna Liddle's face ❤️❤️❤️
The present names were given during Mughal regime replacing the original Indian names.What is wrong in restoring original names.This can't be termed undesirable.
BJP should change the name of the religion. " Hindu". Its a name given by foreigners .
Persian 😁
@Viru Sahasrabudhey By your logic tolerants following medieval era law book which discriminate against all non dwija men and all women should be boycotted by others. And don't forget tolerants alos invaded other countries like Sri Lanka and Malaya.
Unnecessary demand
what Ashoka did in Kalinga and even before, we all are aware with it. what he did was cruel and it was similar to what many other ruler did to build empire. so why should name the places after him and also respect him? answere is simple- 1. no any empire builder you will find who renounce the violence after winning the battle instead of continuing with same model to further expand the empire.
2. Ashok became the messenger of peace after the battle of kalinga. his messages you will find in many inscriptions .
Ashoka did not destroy temple ashoka killed only in war not without any reason he didnot invade foreign country, after war he converted to Buddhism and spread peace whole Asia
@john zeb ur dp british, aurangzeb who killed mercilesslessly, looted vandalised temples, did conversions but idolized by m's,c's
Not really. After adopting Buddhism, Ashoka had reacted violently to one painting by a main monk showing Buddha bowing to Mahavir. He declared that he would reward anyone a gold coin for every head of a jain monk beheaded. About 50,000 jain monks were beheaded in his kingdom. Remember this was after he adopted Buddhism.
Lol so if renaming Delhi roads that bore British names was ok immediately after independence, why isn’t it ok to rename roads that bear the names of the Mughals, who were, after all, foreign Turkic Uzbeks who invaded and ruled over vast swathes of India? 🧐
Great knowledge Real talks goes only in Wire
BJP made these guys irrelevant… reason for the meltdown 😂😂
History getting OBSELTE
WHAT ABOUT SCIENCE 😀😀😀😀
Every Mughal era name must be changed. Now Hindusthan must be Hindu Rashtra.
I think present BJP rule will be written in Indian history as short sighted , narrow minded , jealous , foolish and religion , cast and colour based hatred with fellow citizens , is their characteristics of rule .
Absolutely
Only in your islamic history else this period will be known as the period where further emancipation of muslim women happened (triple talaq), establishment of Ram Mandir at Ayodhya, rebuilding of Kashi Vishwanath Mandir, digital India on scale, welfare measures for poor: water, gas, health,insurance, direct benefit transfer, semiconductors etc..
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इन पुराने नाम समय के साथ बदले जाने चाहिए। हिन्दू अभी भीं गुलाम नहीं है।
It makes us more concious to know our history.
"Manuwadi" don't waste time in creating/making something.
They believe in Cut/Copy/Pest/Change policy only. They masterfully played this game many times in Indian history, in every field of life.
Bring back Bombay, Bangalore, Mysore, Calcutta, Madras, Allahabad, Mughal Serai.
Dont dream pakistani
In Muslim era, the Nalandas were burnt, not a single university was built by invaders, only British built universities.. It is foolish to continue names of Muslim era, for they disseminated ignorance to Indian.
I just my guts out while watching this interview.. Gosh.. what these guys are..!?!? 🤣🤣🤣
They have given you a deep culture.How to live..eat.behave. How to wear...They have given you the Administration's..Revenue Roads.
Many of our Governament offices are running in those buildings which they have constructed ..Now the system of governance in your hand ply as you like who stopped you ..Good luck..
This is stupid conversation, because no matter what reasons are given, that is only to hide the real reason. BJP wants all things Muslim removed from India, including names of things and places. If you do not understand that, you go about having these unnecessary interviews (of course it is good for Karan) and raise arguments.
Both sides, these elite pseudo Englishmen that Karan represents and the dumb wit Hindutva supporting people (I would NOT call them traditionalists or even Hindus as all they are trying to create is an exact opposite, but equal to the Muslim culture i.e Green v/s Saffron, Hijab v/s Saffron stole etc..) are hypocrites and trying to justify their side of the argument by lying and making up things or spinning something bad as good or spinning something good as bad. I am so fed up of both these sides. God save our country.
Agreed!
go wear hijab in madrassas, best is go to afghanistan, pakistan, ttp will welcome u for all ur sharias
@ArmanAditya Basu definitely the nail was hit on its head. the result is a meltdown
When a government doesn't want to solve real issues, they resort to such time wasting, money wasting indulgences that are impractical, senseless and useless! Why are we even allowing such indulgence? Has Hinduism not survived British Rules, Mughal invasions, etc? Why are we being made to believe that our religious identity is dying? To keep this paranoia alive, everything foreign is, decried but we still choose to brag about "foreign" recognition! Modi has made the world recognise India! Excuse me, I believe it is World that always, recognised India as unique. It is the West that actually made us appreciate our heritage. Yoga etc would have died long ago had it not been for the likes of the Beatles etc to draw our attention back to our heritage! These half-baked, ill read, pessimistic, frog-in-the-well minded politicians who rose to power by sheer gunda gardi are literally brain washing the equally half baked, I'll read, "passed-to-get-a-job", rote- learning educated masses. Sorry but honestly I see our people losing the ability to think for themselves. In this world of instance- everything, we have become gobblers of instant information without thinking if it is based on facts!
They capacity is to change the name only.
A guest invited can never be invasive. Can seven great oceanic water clean the letters imprinted in the papers of the past. Probably the souls of Rana Sangha, Medni Roy, Daulat Khan plus more can better tell. Rana Sangha didn't attack Agra as committed and promised had annoyed and convinced the man to stay back, knowing and assuming the self win solely. Hasan Mewati, the commander, did his best on behalf of Rana.!
BS, Rana Sanga did not need to ask a lost vander who was thrown out from his own native land of Samarkand & was ruling a pitty kingdom of Kabul before winning Panipat [1526] and more importantly Khanua [1527]
On contray, Rana Sanga established one of most powerful Indian kingdom of that age even asserted by few Baburnama chronicles that he and Krishna Deva Raya were two greatest Hindu ruler of that age..
He did stayed in India because he has no choice to go back to his poverty stricken kingdom of Kabul where he was failing to fulfill food supplies requirements of his army..
Hasan Khan Mewati did not do any favour in fighting with Sanga (his faction was small 5k anyway) just like Ibhrahim Khan Gardi fought with Marathas in Panipat [1761]..doesnt change the fact that those were Hindu armies and Hasan did not lead last stand for Rajputs either it was done by Prithviraj Kachwaha of Amber and Raj Rana Ajja of Mewar..
PS:- No contemporary Hindu/Muslim/Sikh/Jain writter mention about Sanga sending ambassdor to Kabul to invite a inconsequestional prince. [Read: G.N Sharma excellent rebut of this fabel in Mewar and Mughal Emperors]
You allah you scienceless fools
All places whose names were changed under Islamic rulers to signify a religious win over Bharat's civilization must be changed, and one should not have any problem in this if we really want some common meeting point between today's Hindus and Muslims.
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@@va-ro it isn’t an either or choice as you & many others like you put it. Things move ahead simultaneously on multiple fronts
Change is constant. Learn to accept it
However morally righteous you are Karan, this is another issue of limited interest to common man. Yet amongst the urbane & enlightened followers of your podcast, it will echo as ‘discrimination’ against a particular community.
Adesh Gupta & his ilk care 2 hoots about it - they aim to get the majority votes by this name change exercise. This polarization strategy has been successful since time immemorial. It has been applied by all so called great leaders in politics, religion, military etc.
Historically, in 11th century, Pope Urban II achieved great success in uniting Christians against Muslims in order to reclaim the Holy Land, Jerusalem. Sadly, his was the first of seven major military campaigns fought over the next two centuries known as the Crusades, the bloody repercussions of which are still felt today (ISIS, Taliban........)
Indians will do well to remember this fact & instead focus on 21st century economic crusades.
Sonia Gandhi and George Soros should pay Karan Thapar for this brilliant history.
Chaiwala does not want you to know that - He does not have to die (Let alone his mama still alive) to put his name on Stadium. But that did not stop him to kill 1000s becos of Covid spread (forcing patrons) to sit in this Gujju named Stadia in his name (while still alive) and in Kotla stadium (He forced to open after having changed its name on Jaitley posthumously), 1000s including players, staff, admin who went in and out spread the covid in 2 communities and ultimately shut down the ipl
Change of label, doesn't guarantee change of product!
I'm still looking out for those fabled 'smart cities'!
Moreover, the present day change in name of places is not an exercise in erasing history and memory of some fictitious slavery, but rather entering a new one instead!
You have no idea what a smart City is. You still believe that it is something like Android phone .
For a better example look for indore it is on the way to become smartest
Fictitious slavery
@@purvivikas1360one of the cleanest in India, you mean!
Smartest?!
How so darlin?
@@alexanderpinto9759 do u even know what are criteria for a city to be smart
@@purvivikas1360 please enlighten, this poor thing that I am!
After 1000 years of Muslims and British rule, it is time for the local people to rename some of the names. It is unwise to say you can’t change the name. I am neither Congress, BJP or any political party, and not belong to any religion. I am in favour of changing Hyderabad name to Golkonda, the fort built for protection in 13th century. Hyderabad was built much later as an overflow. Without Golkonda, there is no Hyderabad. Hyderabad population has grown up from 200,000 in 1948 under Nizam to 1.5 Crores today. Muslims not only forced Hindus converted into Islam, they also robbed their identity by changing their family names. Christians also did the same to Indians. They could have given a first name a religious name but changing Family name is a violation of religious practices. This is a welcome change to name their places with their local heroes.
Decades back it was a big joke about the Western tourists who commented that all Indian cities and towns villages are poor and bad.... names ending in.... pur.....bad
Two intellectual person are discussing beautifully, looking stars in the sky.
She should be global leader!