I an not Indian, but recently read the volumes of Ambedkar, truly a great and fearless man. He understood the problems and challenges that India faced.
@@robbythepoorgamer4356 I am Swedish, and a programmer by trade, but also have a great interest in history, antiquities, and the history of India. So I naturally knew about Ambedkar and some of his impact on modern India, but never studied in depth what he wrote, until recently; which made me appreciate the man and his intellect that much more.
Ambedkar bulldozed his way in the reservation policy and destroyed merit and capability over caste based reservation. The country is still paying the price
I m looking forward to reading this book along with the Annihilation of Caste by Dr Ambedkar to get a clear glimse of his views nd understanding on different issues.Thanku Wire for this excellent interview ❤️
22:30 Ambedkar truly was a visionary, sad that the same rules applies today with regards to North vs South, A conservative, religiously intolerant & superstitious North imposing it's disregard onto the Progressive, tolerant and rational South.
22:30 Ambedkar truly was a visionary, sad that the same rules applies today with regards to North vs South, A conservative, religiously intolerant & superstitious North imposing it's disregard onto the Progressive, tolerant and rational South.
22:46 BR Ambedkar "There is a vast difference between the North and South, the North is conservatives, the South is progressive. The North is Superstitious and South is rational. The South is educationally forward, the North is educationally backward. The culture of the South is modern the culture of the North is Medieval." best quote Ambedkar has ever said and sadly still applies so well!
Great people like Dr Ambedkar belong to all times. He is not restricted to one country or continent. His wisdom, his views about world politics is indisputable, indispensable and applicable particularly and specially now in India. One can fool all the people some of the time; some of the people all the time; but not all the people all the time. Congratulations to both Karan for choosing such a great topic and Dr Tharoor for disseminating such great useful knowledge among the people. 🙏🙏👌👍
@@SunilSingh-eo4bl Buddha is not the Bouddhaavatara of lord Vishnu. Illiterates and idiotically ignorants think Bhagavan Buddha is incarnation of Vishnu. It is not so.
22:30 Ambedkar truly was a visionary, sad that the same rules applies today with regards to North vs South, A conservative, religiously intolerant & superstitious North imposing it's disregard onto the Progressive, tolerant and rational South.
@@SunilSingh-eo4bl then you should read his 22vows . That it's a fake that budha is incarnation of vishnu. Br. Ambedkar and Archeologicst have proven that budha is historical character. Unlike vishnu. Budhism and hinduism are different according Br ambedkar you should first budhism
Hinduism is said to divide people and in contrast, Islam is said to bind people together. This is only a half-truth. For Islam divides as inexorably as it binds. Islam is a close corporation and the distinction that it makes between Muslims and non-Muslims is a very real, very positive and very alienating distinction. The brotherhood of Islam is not the universal brotherhood of man. It is a brotherhood of Muslims for Muslims only. There is a fraternity, but its benefit is confined to those within that corporation. For those who are outside the corporation, there is nothing but contempt and enmity,” BR Ambedkar wrote in ‘Pakistan or Partition of India’.
22:30 Ambedkar truly was a visionary, sad that the same rules applies today with regards to North vs South, A conservative, religiously intolerant & superstitious North imposing it's disregard onto the Progressive, tolerant and rational South.
22:46 BR Ambedkar "There is a vast difference between the North and South, the North is conservatives, the South is progressive. The North is Superstitious and South is rational. The South is educationally forward, the North is educationally backward. The culture of the South is modern the culture of the North is Medieval." best quote Ambedkar has ever said and sadly still applies so well!
22:46 BR Ambedkar "There is a vast difference between the North and South, the North is conservatives, the South is progressive. The North is Superstitious and South is rational. The South is educationally forward, the North is educationally backward. The culture of the South is modern the culture of the North is Medieval." best quote Ambedkar has ever said and sadly still applies so well!
@@kolapuri1caste has faded a little? Hv you ever thought about the caste of personal during any situation you you live your life. Can you confidentaly say that you are better financial than your lower class neighbours/friends/colleagues?
22:30 Ambedkar truly was a visionary, sad that the same rules applies today with regards to North vs South, A conservative, religiously intolerant & superstitious North imposing it's disregard onto the Progressive, tolerant and rational South.
Pehle to ye dekh beta ye hindu rastra h samman mila h agar Pakistan hota to jese afganistan m bodho ki murti tod di vese hi ambedkar ji ki bhi na hoti na to hindu kabhi virodhi the BJP ko gali dena bas agenda chalana h BJP k raj m unka samman Or bada h inhe satta m bhagidari nahi h na isliye kar rahen h
@vedashri ram "Atleast the others are valuing his words now." Who are these "others" to whom you refer ? If you mean the Shah-Modi-Bisht BJP, you are very sadly mistaken.
I admire Gandhi for many of his ideals and thoughts. However I admire and support Ambedkar in all his arguements that he had with Gandhi. That's the intellectual and moral capacity we had in our country in those times. What iconic figures these are compared to so called leaders we have today.
Hinduism is said to divide people and in contrast, Islam is said to bind people together. This is only a half-truth. For Islam divides as inexorably as it binds. Islam is a close corporation and the distinction that it makes between Muslims and non-Muslims is a very real, very positive and very alienating distinction. The brotherhood of Islam is not the universal brotherhood of man. It is a brotherhood of Muslims for Muslims only. There is a fraternity, but its benefit is confined to those within that corporation. For those who are outside the corporation, there is nothing but contempt and enmity,” BR Ambedkar wrote in ‘Pakistan or Partition of India’.
@arwind sawant let me first clear "sar tan se jada" in any case can be correct but you never spoke out against the act of DARK AGE that is LYNCHING of human beings in series and making videos for terrorise a good number of population of this country. And again welcoming those Lynchers by garlanding them & taking processions in favour of those CRUEL KILLERS. Similarly u people FREE the convicted RAPISTS and MURDERERS from jail and welcome like VIPs. Shame Shame.
@@Ajay140779 "Islamic Terrorism" is the term to defame Islam by West for their vested interest. But you people are suffering from a WORST type of "HINDUPHOBIA" devastating all HIMAN VALUES
@arwind sawant why also you people do competition with pakistan, why not with China and America? Because you know the reality Why always Hindus always do competition with islam why not with Buddhists or Christians, i think that also you know why 😂
"It is for the majority to realize it is their duty not to discriminate against minorities." B. R. Ambedkar. I am a part of the majority community, and I know many from my community will start 'what about minority duties' here...such an attitude is just cowardness
Yes,true! And because India’s majority accepted their responsibility discrimination is prohibited by law. Ambedkar deserves credit for bringing the issue to the fore and the majority agrees with him. As it is everywhere in the world, change takes time but change is happening.
@@subhashbhagwat7411 change? it will never happen, as long as hinduism, the core reason, remains in India as a religion. It is emboldened and entitled in present day india more than ever. I live in Nirth America and I have many hindu colleagues who expresses in private conversations, who justifies and believes caste system is right.
22:46 BR Ambedkar "There is a vast difference between the North and South, the North is conservatives, the South is progressive. The North is Superstitious and South is rational. The South is educationally forward, the North is educationally backward. The culture of the South is modern the culture of the North is Medieval." best quote Ambedkar has ever said and sadly still applies so well!
9:39; Caste is an instrument of discrimination, caste is the soul of hinduism and so how can a caste-conscious hindu - which every hindu is by default- be a good hindu ….
22:30 Ambedkar truly was a visionary, sad that the same rules applies today with regards to North vs South, A conservative, religiously intolerant & superstitious North imposing it's disregard onto the Progressive, tolerant and rational South.
Read Volumes of DR. B. R. AMBEDKAR once in a life and you will understand this nation / land from birth till it will die...... The highest rational intelectual being 🇮🇳 ever had..
22:30 Ambedkar truly was a visionary, sad that the same rules applies today with regards to North vs South, A conservative, religiously intolerant & superstitious North imposing it's disregard onto the Progressive, tolerant and rational South.
Hinduism is said to divide people and in contrast, Islam is said to bind people together. This is only a half-truth. For Islam divides as inexorably as it binds. Islam is a close corporation and the distinction that it makes between Muslims and non-Muslims is a very real, very positive and very alienating distinction. The brotherhood of Islam is not the universal brotherhood of man. It is a brotherhood of Muslims for Muslims only. There is a fraternity, but its benefit is confined to those within that corporation. For those who are outside the corporation, there is nothing but contempt and enmity,” BR Ambedkar wrote in ‘Pakistan or Partition of India’.
22:30 Ambedkar truly was a visionary, sad that the same rules applies today with regards to North vs South, A conservative, religiously intolerant & superstitious North imposing it's disregard onto the Progressive, tolerant and rational South.
Dr.Ambedkar stands unique and tall among our founding fathers. The other stalwarts like Gandhi, Nehru, Patel et al came from similar (not the same) ideological and political camps, but Dr.Ambedkar, as mentioned, was an original thinker, undoubtedly, influenced by his social identity. His views, hence, are in stark contrast to the majority be it political, social or historical, the centre piece being his vehement opposition to caste and it's deep roots in our socio-economic life and the plight of the Dalits and those in lower rungs of social ladder. It is hence appalling that the PM, for obvious political reasons, publicly holding Babasaheb as an influence. Mr. Modi and his party's views are infamously clear - one that's solidly rooted on majoritarianism - one that is plucked from the fascist playbooks and played successfully by autocrats across the world, current example being Mr.Erdogan in Turkey. Without an iota of doubt one can say that the BJP doesn't sympathize with any of his views out of sincerity but only for political mileage - mobilizing the Dalits as a vote bank who holds Babasaheb in esteem. And this mockery of Indias prodigal son, after that of Sardar Patel, Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose, Swami Vivekanand among others is unsurprising as a mere means to an end - to aid the electoral machine in sustaining and solidifying power. All one can truly say is NaMo🙏
22:46 BR Ambedkar "There is a vast difference between the North and South, the North is conservatives, the South is progressive. The North is Superstitious and South is rational. The South is educationally forward, the North is educationally backward. The culture of the South is modern the culture of the North is Medieval." best quote Ambedkar has ever said and sadly still applies so well!
Karan what a great interview, with a great mind Sashi. I totally agree with the views expressed. Actually I feel our supreme leader is as much a "bhakt" as he was a "chaiwala". And Hindi, though a beautiful language, is not a national language. In fact in a country so diverse we can't have a national language. Nationalism is a thought that joined us all together and got us independence, we were a diverse country then and proudly a diverse nation today and would be that way.
22:30 Ambedkar truly was a visionary, sad that the same rules applies today with regards to North vs South, A conservative, religiously intolerant & superstitious North imposing it's disregard onto the Progressive, tolerant and rational South.
@@debodatta7398 BS. There you are off on your divisive agenda. North stood up to one of the most brutal invasions and stayed Hindu. I do not think any other indigenous civilization can lay claim to that level of bravery and fierce loyalty to their faith. And I am a south Indian. This 'enlightened' South, they completely fall for the most ridiculous weird missionary tricks and propaganda.
22:46 BR Ambedkar "There is a vast difference between the North and South, the North is conservatives, the South is progressive. The North is Superstitious and South is rational. The South is educationally forward, the North is educationally backward. The culture of the South is modern the culture of the North is Medieval." best quote Ambedkar has ever said and sadly still applies so well!
6:47; ‘If you can’t defeat them then appropriate them’ is the ploy of the hindutvawadis; it started with Buddha by instituting him as the incarnation of one of the caste-loving god called Vishnu, followed by Vivekanand who always made scathing remarks against the very concept of caste and abhorred casteism from all platforms, recently they have appropriated Patel who as home minister had banned the RSS calling it the breeding ground of terrorist, and now it’s Ambedkar…….
Great discussion,very well interpret ed. Ambedkar is the most wise one who convinced even Gandhiji to eradicate the social discrimination and injustice prevailed in hindvitwa, which he had given priority than fighting for freedom.His ideology is that,getting freedom is of no use,without eradicating this injustice in the majority hindutwa.... BJP still has to understand this among their cadres.
22:46 BR Ambedkar "There is a vast difference between the North and South, the North is conservatives, the South is progressive. The North is Superstitious and South is rational. The South is educationally forward, the North is educationally backward. The culture of the South is modern the culture of the North is Medieval." best quote Ambedkar has ever said and sadly still applies so well!
22:46 BR Ambedkar "There is a vast difference between the North and South, the North is conservatives, the South is progressive. The North is Superstitious and South is rational. The South is educationally forward, the North is educationally backward. The culture of the South is modern the culture of the North is Medieval." best quote Ambedkar has ever said and sadly still applies so well!
@@thebobbysisters yes castism exists in South but we can see they are fighting against castism for long but here in North we don't see any revolution against castism..
They will never discuss Ambedkar's view on Islam, uniform civil code, article 370 and that he wanted a complete population exchange between India and Pakistan.
Even if they discuss it for hundreds of hours, I tell you no one shall ever reach to a hundred percent consensus.....ever!!!! These are endless debates, yet all political figures "use" them for their own political milage.
Modi-BJPigs-RSS-Hindutwa Fascist ideology has UNDONE ALL the “Reforms” you mentioned, and taken the country to a rapid downhill to DISASTER…mixing HATE with Religion with Politics with Divisions taking the country to regression, agression, lawlessness and unrest! Autocracy and theocracy at best! How BLIND is the majority!
@arwind sawant You are right on this point. But there are many deep rooted casteism, class differentiation still exists in Hindu society and all parties including congress used appeasement policies, to continue in power differently in different states. See... No person of lower caste is ready to lose caste identity or reservation given in the name of caste for jobs or selection procedures in various institutions in india because of the benefits they receive from state. Still many people believe that caste is the only reason people are not respected or supported. There are number of reasons for identifying people in any society. Color, jobs, positions, financial status, power, and so many multi factors. Congress supported all nonsense when they were in power. But now they are in a point of no return, panicked,confused, trying to fix the image through various media finding new definitons from history and trying to come back to power or in main stream politics. This is not going to be listened by majority since majority speaks all local language other than English.
Honorable Dr. Ambedkar was the most educated and logical leader. Indians are very lucky to have him as a eye opener Rational Leader and explained what is written in manusmriti, otherwise no one read and knew it. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
There is an old saying Hindi "Samay aane par gadhey ko bhi baap banana padta hai" (To bring situations in your favor you have to make/call a Donkey your father). That is what BJP is doing by making Ambedkar as their Icon, just to get more votes from SC/ST category.
On the language issue Ambedkar was very right as well, English although a foreign language to the land what is today India and the regions nearby, also the language of the colonizers, has proven to be great advantage to Indians when competing internationally, also nationally it has been the qreat equalizer among states and their own languages... It should be left out to the states to decide which languages they want to develop and work on...and center should have no business deciding all this, Hindi as any other Indian language is an equal, it cannot get more or less importance than other languages...
Common language is more powerful than nationalism, or may be complementary to each other to sustain. Great countries like China, usa could sustain in time and create trust and wealth by accepting a common language. India trying imposing a regional language on entire country wound invite grief and fission in the soul nationally of Indians.
22:30 Ambedkar truly was a visionary, sad that the same rules applies today with regards to North vs South, A conservative, religiously intolerant & superstitious North imposing it's disregard onto the Progressive, tolerant and rational South.
There should be a compulsory three language scheme in school curricula across India 1) Mother tongue 2) English 3) Hindi(in south) and some south Indian language(in north) As a south Indian I wouldn't mind learning Hindi, I only oppose it's forceful imposition on south Indians which not only infantilizes our local languages but also mocks the federal spirit of the Indian union.
22:46 BR Ambedkar "There is a vast difference between the North and South, the North is conservatives, the South is progressive. The North is Superstitious and South is rational. The South is educationally forward, the North is educationally backward. The culture of the South is modern the culture of the North is Medieval." best quote Ambedkar has ever said and sadly still applies so well!
I'll appreciate if this interview is translated into Hindi language. A large number of RUclips viewers who don't understand English will be deprived of such a great and fruitful interview if the interview is not presented in Hindi and other major Indian languages.
A very interesting discussion between two great intellectuals who understand the country and its problems. India was fortunate to have a person of Ambedkar's intellect and calibre to be at hand when the country was required to draft a constitution. Besides being a legal luminary and intellectual par excellence, he knew the Indian society and its strength and weaknesses in and out by his personal experience. Our leaders must study Ambedkar with an open mind and should formulate policies where every one would feel comfortable. Ours is still an evolving society and giving undue accent to caste, community, language etc. can only retard our social progress. Ultimately our real aim should be to create a modern society where caste and would obviously take the back stage.
That “slap” comes out of ignorance! Let us not go overboard praising the “ wisdom” of Tharoor! He has his blinds and limitations, his british accent notwithstanding!
22:30 Ambedkar truly was a visionary, sad that the same rules applies today with regards to North vs South, A conservative, religiously intolerant & superstitious North imposing it's disregard onto the Progressive, tolerant and rational South.
Really thought provoking interview. I for one, immediately developed a great respect for the wisdom of Dr. Ambedkar. This generation of leaders need to sincerely listen to Dr. Ambedkar.
22:30 Ambedkar truly was a visionary, sad that the same rules applies today with regards to North vs South, A conservative, religiously intolerant & superstitious North imposing it's disregard onto the Progressive, tolerant and rational South.
I think it takes few more generations for the bhakts to read what Dr Ambedkar stood for forget about understanding him, given the level of intelligence they possess and which also need good amount of free thinking mindset😂
The debate/conversation has been thought provoking.... when they took deep dive into the ocean to find out what is hidden inside Hinduism.... the truth narrows down to discrimination of minorities & Dalits( Bahujan Samaj) which Dr. BR Ambedkar fought to eradicate it being in Hindu Society... and who even succeeded in giving Independent India a Sacred book called the INDIAN CONSTITUTION which gave the people of India as to how to run the Nation. He was a great visionary and could forecast the future of India that what he wrote & preached is being seen today and no doubt could be seen in near future as well. Karan Taper your interviews are straight with truth & daring... you are a true journalist. Congratulations and all the best in your endeavours.
22:46 BR Ambedkar "There is a vast difference between the North and South, the North is conservatives, the South is progressive. The North is Superstitious and South is rational. The South is educationally forward, the North is educationally backward. The culture of the South is modern the culture of the North is Medieval." best quote Ambedkar has ever said and sadly still applies so well!
It's surprising how dr. Ambedkars statements said in 1930s,40s are still valid to this date and are turning out to be true.. Visionary, intelluctual,rational, progressive mind.
love how Karan says " and even the occasional Nobel Laureate" . Come to think of it nobody comes close to his portfolio of discussions in Indian Media.
Thank you Karan. Your brilliant quotes and questions play a very important role for the interviewee -the great Dr Shashi Tharoor-to bring the truth about such important issues that the people have a right to know and expose the hypocrites before the society. 🙏🙏🙏Too good an interview….Looking forward to more such exposures 👍
22:46 BR Ambedkar "There is a vast difference between the North and South, the North is conservatives, the South is progressive. The North is Superstitious and South is rational. The South is educationally forward, the North is educationally backward. The culture of the South is modern the culture of the North is Medieval." best quote Ambedkar has ever said and sadly still applies so well!
Wow, with no internet. Respected man understood so much about our society and it's issues. His intelligence has given us a sturdy democracy, but our stupidity can destroy it
I feel sorry for bjp because they don't have any figure of their own. Sardar Patel was Congressman. Ambedkar Saheb is the leader of Dalits and RSS never liked him. Ambedkar Saheb also embraced Buddhism. Recently we have seen that since Gautam embraced Buddhism, bjp got annoyed.
Ambedkar is becoming more and more relevant to Indian politics, but the problem lies there, that those who are followers of ideas of Ambedkar, are divided for different reasons, BJP & RSS are shrewd enough to misguide & mislead the masses, which has become their best strength. Only unity of the Ambedcarite is the only solution.
We all know about BJP-RSS's policies but even Tharoor is proud to be a Hindu and has written about it. Hence if BJP-RSS has double standards on Ambedkar, doesn't Tharoor has on being a hindu?
You are saying you are ok with BJP-RSS double standards as long as Tharoor has double standards 🤣🤣.... Have your own brain bro.... What Dr. Ambedkar said - is still relevant today... Dalits being tortured at one part or other part of the country- is still happening...... I believe he was right in his writings. Now ruling dispensation is working day in and day out to put all country's wealth in the hands of Brahmins businessmen and that too from their own State Gujrat... Same Gujrat which allowed Mughals to come into India.... same Gujrat who never have any martyred soldier in the history of independent India... looters mostly are actually from this state only....
@@kareemkhan-hv1yp Not at all.. I despise BJP-RSS politics and their multiple standards (not just double standards). You got me totally wrong on Ambedkar.. I am an hardcore Ambedkarite. All I was saying that Tharoor preaching on Ambedkar is totally superficial and understated.
This point only relevant if Tharoor brings his religion into politics and governance the way bjp does. As long as that’s not the case he’s merely calling out the bjp hypocrisy.
English should always continue as the business laungage of India, because english provides a *level playing field* to all Indians.Making HIndi the Only launguage of India would be akin to making _Urdu_ the only launguage of Pakistan (including then Bangaldesh) by Jinnah. We all know what happened to that experiment.
@arwind sawant then why has section of tribals and Sikhs become naxalite and terrorists??? Logic is very simple, if you alienate a particular section of society then you will have pay a price for it. Unfortunately Hindutva bigots like you will never understand Ambedkar or Bhagat Singh.
Regular media channels shy to report and discuss the news of thousands of people taking 22 oaths of Ambedkar. Rajinder Gautam was just present on one such occasion and he was forced to resign.
@arwind sawant : Mr Sawant where is your place in the caste structure of hinduism; below-at par-or above the bammans 😂😂😂Hope you know why Mrs Khole from pune filed the FIR against the domestic help belonging to your caste …🤣
If needed this interview should long because he should be asked questions like: 1. How Congress is far away from Dr. Amedkar's ideas? 2. Is Ambedkar contradicts Shshi Tharoor's ideas in the book - Why I Am Hindu? 3. Clarifications on questions he raised on Dr. Ambedkar about Gandhi and others?
These were very essential questions that Thapar should have asked Mr Tharoor, it would have been really interesting to see his responses and justifications.
Hinduism is said to divide people and in contrast, Islam is said to bind people together. This is only a half-truth. For Islam divides as inexorably as it binds. Islam is a close corporation and the distinction that it makes between Muslims and non-Muslims is a very real, very positive and very alienating distinction. The brotherhood of Islam is not the universal brotherhood of man. It is a brotherhood of Muslims for Muslims only. There is a fraternity, but its benefit is confined to those within that corporation. For those who are outside the corporation, there is nothing but contempt and enmity,” BR Ambedkar wrote in ‘Pakistan or Partition of India’.
Many bjp net-warriors often quote Ambedkar’s statements from his book ‘Thoughts on Pakistan’ wherein he seems to bat for a separate State of Pakistan carved out of India on the grounds of mutual antipathy between the two communities. But what they cunningly hide from us is the fact that Ambedkar rather preferred a separate pakistan for muslims than an unified hindutva dominated hindustan in which the muslims were suppose to exist as third rate citizens at the mercy of the very casteist oppressing castes hindus who did not even ascribe the status of humans to bahujans and women who comprised more than 85% of their very own religion. The present overtly casteist-communal bjp govt is bent upon proving Ambedkar was right in his understanding of hindutva and its narrow minded oppressing castes votaries who shamelessly rejoice upon Sunak’s selection as UK’s PM but sneer at the italian roots of Sonia Gandhi …
If somebody believes Modi when he says he's an Ambedkar bhakt, then he is very naive! Modi's "bhaktology" sways with the wind & changes like the frequency with which he changes his clothes.
Most of us are not as well read as these 2 gentlemen so simply hailing anyone or anything means nothing, quite simply. That said, Karan Thapar is barely having a conversation nor asking the guest for his opinions, rather making all the assertions and simply expecting Shashiji to acknowledge the same. Although Thapar didn't come across as promoting his book, i really didn't see why he was even invited to hear his own views :)
No discussion on poona packt and how Congress kept on ditching him throughout his life. Dr. Ambedkar was lot more than what has been discussed in short discussion. His idea to address Hindus as pigmies and dwarf has not gone well with two Hindus who are discussing him. It will be only well understood by the people who are actually suffered due to such identification of Hindus. Jai bhim Jai samvidhan Jai Bharat 🙏
That's the only proper with Mr. Thapar. His questioning is too lengthy and at the same time doesn't allow the interviwee to express himself completely. Otherwise it's a thought provoking interview.
@@subbaraoguruprasad5749 yeah this was a good topic ... and he keeps rephrasing the guest's answer, asking later "am correct in interpreting what you said"
Modi will be the remembered for ever.. He has done lot to break the cast system. Putting Respected Droupadi Murmu as president of India and taking her inside famous Hindu temples are just fabulous. If Modi can break the Muslim votes (basically wins the confidence of Muslims although he has reached out to Bohra Muslim successfully) then leftish/liberals/minority appeasers will be left with very little option to compete with BJP. Modi's/BJP's achievement for reform or economy is phenomenal.
22:30 Ambedkar truly was a visionary, sad that the same rules applies today with regards to North vs South, A conservative, religiously intolerant & superstitious North imposing it's disregard onto the Progressive, tolerant and rational South.
Any majoritarian religion based government or state is against the idea of democracy be it any religion. 1. Christian states were against Jews. India accommodated them as family. 2. Look at islamic states like Iraq and Afganiatan. Also Iran where Hijab protests are taking place. And they also criticize Saudi Prince's Liberal stance and his regard for Female rights like driving. 3. Myanmar's Buddhist mojoritarian government and Sri Lanka's majoritarian Rajapaksha government killed minorities(Tamil Hindus). I can go on and on But still I believe Hindus have accommodated a liberal mindset. Speaking of caste system it is based on Karma(action or work) and not Birth. Me and my two friends had a chemistry tuition teacher in 12th and we still touch his feet whenever we meet and we knew he was from ST. But we regarded him as our guru. Somewhere down the line Hindus fell into the British idea of caste system. Which was just to please Maharajas I think. That's why when we were in our golden era or even during Muslim rule we didn't hear much about upper-lower caste. And thus rich upper caste were also taught this in british education system. Divide and Rule strategy. But now we're coming out of that. I can understand Ambedkar ji's mindset after being exposed to such misguided society but still he was someone who just wanted equality and not any caste's rule over other. We have a 'lok devta' (human regarded as god) named Baba Ramdev in Rajasthan who introduced 'Jamha Jagran' which is like a function for people for all walks of life which spread message of equality. He was a Hindu Kshatriya King and believed in Equality and Justice, we Still celebrate a huge Baba Ramdev mela (fair) where where devotees from all strata of society do miles of foot march towards his resting place and People provide 'seva' to them during their journey. Real education and such Ideas of Equality can change a society. Can't say about marriages, Parents decide that in India be it any caste or religion 😐
1. Is Hindu really religion ? 2. The world Hindu comes from which language exactly ? 3 . How's the world Hindu originates and from what ? Please elaborate what are the facts behind it ? Thank you !
Well Mr. Ambedkar by his speech clearly had views against Hinduism. But, we must also read his view many a times in support of Hindus. If we read his journey, we see many times ambedkar had tried to reform the Hinduism with other Hindu reformers.but, was opposed by orthodox at that time. However, he was not willing to leave Hindusim in the first place but was hopeful for a change in the thinking of Hindu society. and unfortunately at the end he gave up for reforms in Hinduism and converted to Buddism. He was also pursed by jinnah to convert into Islam but his views were also against Islam.(people should also read his views on Islam because we should not allow one sided anti-hindu arguments to let decidethat Hindusim was only opposed and others were good.) Note: I am not against any religion.but I tend to often see media only showing Ambedkars views which were Anti-Hindu and not the other one. As a student of history I can say because at that time the Hindu society was not ready to change due to orthodox views of contemporary times Ambedkar was hurt and had such strong words because of his anger at that time. (But it was not his fault). However, we are in 21st century were we see changes in many ways in the every society and Hindus and dalits being friends and relatives of each other. And I can say that Hindu society also have realized fault line in Hinduism and changes are taking place. No doubt if ambedkar had seen such reforms at his times. He probably would have been the most happiest person. because reforms in Hindu society was the thing which he was unable to do. The fact is things like this do take times to change. Because not an individual but whole society is changing. Probably he could also had supported BJP in Hindu society reforms movement who knows what had happened.
Kudos to you Karan, you deserve the best in journalism. People like you and Ravish from NDTV are playing vital role to ensure Journalism is alive and trying to save democracy
Sashi tharoor supports Hinduism and ambedkar. If that is not contradictory, what bjp is doing is also not contradictory. Actually Hindu nationalists advocates for neo- Hinduism or revivalistic Hinduism. And they consider Buddhism as a part of it. Revivalistic Hindu traditions wear saffron, they are against caste and more organized. So acc. to them Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism, Arya samaj etc are revivalistic traditions. And they support Ambedkar in the act against caste inequality and they didn't agree with him in attacking Hinduism as a whole. But they ignore it bcz they know what made ambedkar say that and it should be taken in that sense. One thing should be noted - bjp will accept Ambedkar ( bcz he was a Buddhist and thus hindu) but will never accept periyar.
They are discussing Modis hypocrisy. They are not discussing what Ambedkar thought about anything. Ambedkar was quite critical of Gandhi. That too is not a topic for this interview
Interesting to learn what Ambedkar said which is against BJP's ideology. Ambedkar equally vocal against Islam and its treatment of Dalits . Jai Bheem jai meem parties also use Ambedkar . selectively pick and choose is the policy of political parties and also the same is seen in this interview
Salutes. Sashimi tharoor for giving reply of thapar ji.modi ran away from interview Modi is hopeless.gawar in comparison to u both and past leader Hatao and bhagao.this.Pm.from.this post
Sir, I am a Madiga by caste, Christian by religion, I am a true Congressman, from 1982 sticking posters Congress is my mother , was a student leader, I found Shashi Tharoor is an amazing personality, he should have been the President of Congress Party, I believe he would have brought a change.
You say you are a christian but I am pretty sure your caste certificate says your religion is ‘Hindu’. I have many Madiga classmates who do the same for reservations. Hypocrites.
I agree with you Samuel. But I found it amusing that Shashi Tharoor was all praise for Ambedkar's condemnation of Bhakts in politics but forgetting the fact that he, Shashi Tharoor himself is a member of Congress party which comprise of so many blind Bhakts of Gandhi family so much so that they I clyding Shashi Tharoor is ready to accept Rahul Gandhi as his leader even though we all know that Rahul has hardly any political experience or qualities to be a leader as compared to Shashi Tharoor or many other non Gandhi leaders in Congress. So we have the highest form of political bhakti still being practiced in Congress by all congressmen including Shashi tharoor himself.
Hinduism is said to divide people and in contrast, Islam is said to bind people together. This is only a half-truth. For Islam divides as inexorably as it binds. Islam is a close corporation and the distinction that it makes between Muslims and non-Muslims is a very real, very positive and very alienating distinction. The brotherhood of Islam is not the universal brotherhood of man. It is a brotherhood of Muslims for Muslims only. There is a fraternity, but its benefit is confined to those within that corporation. For those who are outside the corporation, there is nothing but contempt and enmity,” BR Ambedkar wrote in ‘Pakistan or Partition of India’.
@arwind sawant I'm aware with the statement of Ambedkar regarding muslims. He was mellifluous orator but that time was nadir phase. Being an archetypal person doesn't mean you can't be wrong.
It diminishes Ambedkar’s position to say he had a deep dislike for Hinduism. Anyone who reads his magnum opus-The Annihilation of Caste- cannot but understand that his quest for the annihilation of caste meant the annihilation of the Hindu scriptures, since they form the basis of Hindu beliefs and practices that have sustained caste in India.
I an not Indian, but recently read the volumes of Ambedkar, truly a great and fearless man. He understood the problems and challenges that India faced.
Whats your nationality and how did you come to know about Dr Ambedkar?Yes he is very famous and is considered indian version of martin luther king.
@@robbythepoorgamer4356 I am Swedish, and a programmer by trade, but also have a great interest in history, antiquities, and the history of India. So I naturally knew about Ambedkar and some of his impact on modern India, but never studied in depth what he wrote, until recently; which made me appreciate the man and his intellect that much more.
Write as Dr Ambedkar no singular use of the name
@@IMAniruddha_09 Giving implicit orders to people on how to write and what to write, in comment sections, is bad netiquette and improper decorum.
Ambedkar bulldozed his way in the reservation policy and destroyed merit and capability over caste based reservation.
The country is still paying the price
I m looking forward to reading this book along with the Annihilation of Caste by Dr Ambedkar to get a clear glimse of his views nd understanding on different issues.Thanku Wire for this excellent interview ❤️
22:30 Ambedkar truly was a visionary, sad that the same rules applies today with regards to North vs South, A conservative, religiously intolerant & superstitious North imposing it's disregard onto the Progressive, tolerant and rational South.
Pl read riddles in Hinduism.
"...To read Ambedkar is to enter a different world"- Prof. Perry Anderson
Jai bhim jai bharat ❤
Ambekar was far ahead of his time. He was a True nationalist. Buddha's Dhamma is the only scientific discovery of Buddha.
I realised that, required dictionary while listening DR . Shashi Tharoor 😅
Very good discussion. He was a scholar. His books should be read by every Indian.
22:30 Ambedkar truly was a visionary, sad that the same rules applies today with regards to North vs South, A conservative, religiously intolerant & superstitious North imposing it's disregard onto the Progressive, tolerant and rational South.
Ambedkar was a British agent.
I will
22:46 BR Ambedkar "There is a vast difference between the North and South, the North is conservatives, the South is progressive. The North is Superstitious and South is rational. The South is educationally forward, the North is educationally backward. The culture of the South is modern the culture of the North is Medieval." best quote Ambedkar has ever said and sadly still applies so well!
Great people like Dr Ambedkar belong to all times. He is not restricted to one country or continent. His wisdom, his views about world politics is indisputable, indispensable and applicable particularly and specially now in India. One can fool all the people some of the time; some of the people all the time; but not all the people all the time. Congratulations to both Karan for choosing such a great topic and Dr Tharoor for disseminating such great useful knowledge among the people. 🙏🙏👌👍
You should read his critical views on Islam
@@SunilSingh-eo4bl Buddha is not the Bouddhaavatara of lord Vishnu. Illiterates and idiotically ignorants think Bhagavan Buddha is incarnation of Vishnu. It is not so.
22:30 Ambedkar truly was a visionary, sad that the same rules applies today with regards to North vs South, A conservative, religiously intolerant & superstitious North imposing it's disregard onto the Progressive, tolerant and rational South.
@@SunilSingh-eo4bl then you should read his 22vows . That it's a fake that budha is incarnation of vishnu. Br. Ambedkar and Archeologicst have proven that budha is historical character. Unlike vishnu. Budhism and hinduism are different according Br ambedkar you should first budhism
Hinduism is said to divide people and in contrast, Islam is said to bind people together. This is only a half-truth. For Islam divides as inexorably as it binds. Islam is a close corporation and the distinction that it makes between Muslims and non-Muslims is a very real, very positive and very alienating distinction. The brotherhood of Islam is not the universal brotherhood of man. It is a brotherhood of Muslims for Muslims only. There is a fraternity, but its benefit is confined to those within that corporation. For those who are outside the corporation, there is nothing but contempt and enmity,” BR Ambedkar wrote in ‘Pakistan or Partition of India’.
Dr.B.R.Ambedkar is the leader of the world of all communities and for social reformer.✍️👌👍✊📚
22:30 Ambedkar truly was a visionary, sad that the same rules applies today with regards to North vs South, A conservative, religiously intolerant & superstitious North imposing it's disregard onto the Progressive, tolerant and rational South.
Ambedkar was a British agent.
22:46 BR Ambedkar "There is a vast difference between the North and South, the North is conservatives, the South is progressive. The North is Superstitious and South is rational. The South is educationally forward, the North is educationally backward. The culture of the South is modern the culture of the North is Medieval." best quote Ambedkar has ever said and sadly still applies so well!
For understanding Ambedkar we first have to understand the world and time Ambedkar lived in. All of us must reread him.
22:46 BR Ambedkar "There is a vast difference between the North and South, the North is conservatives, the South is progressive. The North is Superstitious and South is rational. The South is educationally forward, the North is educationally backward. The culture of the South is modern the culture of the North is Medieval." best quote Ambedkar has ever said and sadly still applies so well!
Time Ambedkar lived in: Funny nothing changed now, caste has faded a littke bit that too in cities.
@@kolapuri1caste has faded a little? Hv you ever thought about the caste of personal during any situation you you live your life. Can you confidentaly say that you are better financial than your lower class neighbours/friends/colleagues?
Rss was always against ambedkar in his lifetime but now to gain votes of dalits ambedkar is accepted as a national icon.
Narender Modi make C of people. 😅😅
22:30 Ambedkar truly was a visionary, sad that the same rules applies today with regards to North vs South, A conservative, religiously intolerant & superstitious North imposing it's disregard onto the Progressive, tolerant and rational South.
Pehle to ye dekh beta ye hindu rastra h samman mila h agar Pakistan hota to jese afganistan m bodho ki murti tod di vese hi ambedkar ji ki bhi na hoti na to hindu kabhi virodhi the BJP ko gali dena bas agenda chalana h BJP k raj m unka samman Or bada h inhe satta m bhagidari nahi h na isliye kar rahen h
The so-called supporters of Ambedkarji, the Congress, never gave any credence to his words! Atleast the others are valuing his words now.
@vedashri ram
"Atleast the others are valuing his words now."
Who are these "others" to whom you refer ?
If you mean the Shah-Modi-Bisht BJP, you are very sadly mistaken.
I admire Gandhi for many of his ideals and thoughts. However I admire and support Ambedkar in all his arguements that he had with Gandhi. That's the intellectual and moral capacity we had in our country in those times. What iconic figures these are compared to so called leaders we have today.
That's why i love Dr Ambedkar ❤️
Hinduism is said to divide people and in contrast, Islam is said to bind people together. This is only a half-truth. For Islam divides as inexorably as it binds. Islam is a close corporation and the distinction that it makes between Muslims and non-Muslims is a very real, very positive and very alienating distinction. The brotherhood of Islam is not the universal brotherhood of man. It is a brotherhood of Muslims for Muslims only. There is a fraternity, but its benefit is confined to those within that corporation. For those who are outside the corporation, there is nothing but contempt and enmity,” BR Ambedkar wrote in ‘Pakistan or Partition of India’.
@@salveshuddhodhan come on! Not "Islam" but "Islamic terrorism" is the bar he is setting for himself.
@arwind sawant let me first clear "sar tan se jada" in any case can be correct but you never spoke out against the act of DARK AGE that is LYNCHING of human beings in series and making videos for terrorise a good number of population of this country.
And again welcoming those Lynchers by garlanding them & taking processions in favour of those CRUEL KILLERS. Similarly u people FREE the convicted RAPISTS and MURDERERS from jail and welcome like VIPs. Shame Shame.
@@Ajay140779 "Islamic Terrorism" is the term to defame Islam by West for their vested interest. But you people are suffering from a WORST type of "HINDUPHOBIA" devastating all HIMAN VALUES
@arwind sawant why also you people do competition with pakistan, why not with China and America? Because you know the reality
Why always Hindus always do competition with islam why not with Buddhists or Christians, i think that also you know why 😂
"It is for the majority to realize it is their duty not to discriminate against minorities." B. R. Ambedkar.
I am a part of the majority community, and I know many from my community will start 'what about minority duties' here...such an attitude is just cowardness
Yes,true! And because India’s majority accepted their responsibility discrimination is prohibited by law. Ambedkar deserves credit for bringing the issue to the fore and the majority agrees with him. As it is everywhere in the world, change takes time but change is happening.
@@subhashbhagwat7411 change? it will never happen, as long as hinduism, the core reason, remains in India as a religion. It is emboldened and entitled in present day india more than ever. I live in Nirth America and I have many hindu colleagues who expresses in private conversations, who justifies and believes caste system is right.
Paul Oli your wishing away of hinduism is not going to do it . But you may feel good doing so.
read the book two nation by Ambekar, before talking to non sense
22:46 BR Ambedkar "There is a vast difference between the North and South, the North is conservatives, the South is progressive. The North is Superstitious and South is rational. The South is educationally forward, the North is educationally backward. The culture of the South is modern the culture of the North is Medieval." best quote Ambedkar has ever said and sadly still applies so well!
AMBEDKARISM IS NOW A BIG SUBJECT...PEOPLE SHOULD READ AMBEDKAR REPEATEDLY
9:39; Caste is an instrument of discrimination, caste is the soul of hinduism and so how can a caste-conscious hindu - which every hindu is by default- be a good hindu ….
that had blown my mind to see two astonishing and eminent personalities throughing light on reality ,........
@arwind sawant isn't not asking for the full truth the main qualification to be a BJP bakth?
22:30 Ambedkar truly was a visionary, sad that the same rules applies today with regards to North vs South, A conservative, religiously intolerant & superstitious North imposing it's disregard onto the Progressive, tolerant and rational South.
Read Volumes of DR. B. R. AMBEDKAR once in a life and you will understand this nation / land from birth till it will die......
The highest rational intelectual being 🇮🇳 ever had..
Yesss 😭 I want to read those
22:30 Ambedkar truly was a visionary, sad that the same rules applies today with regards to North vs South, A conservative, religiously intolerant & superstitious North imposing it's disregard onto the Progressive, tolerant and rational South.
@@debodatta7398 very rightly said
@@jk1213ihs True
Hinduism is said to divide people and in contrast, Islam is said to bind people together. This is only a half-truth. For Islam divides as inexorably as it binds. Islam is a close corporation and the distinction that it makes between Muslims and non-Muslims is a very real, very positive and very alienating distinction. The brotherhood of Islam is not the universal brotherhood of man. It is a brotherhood of Muslims for Muslims only. There is a fraternity, but its benefit is confined to those within that corporation. For those who are outside the corporation, there is nothing but contempt and enmity,” BR Ambedkar wrote in ‘Pakistan or Partition of India’.
Every action of this Nation is already predicted and written by Sir, Dr B. R. AMBEDKAR 💙💙💙💙💙
JAI BHIM💙💙
I was gonna comment the same.. Jay Bhim.
Jai meem too?!
Yes of course Dr. Ambedkar predicted this nation.... aqurairtely
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22:30 Ambedkar truly was a visionary, sad that the same rules applies today with regards to North vs South, A conservative, religiously intolerant & superstitious North imposing it's disregard onto the Progressive, tolerant and rational South.
Dr.Ambedkar stands unique and tall among our founding fathers. The other stalwarts like Gandhi, Nehru, Patel et al came from similar (not the same) ideological and political camps, but Dr.Ambedkar, as mentioned, was an original thinker, undoubtedly, influenced by his social identity. His views, hence, are in stark contrast to the majority be it political, social or historical, the centre piece being his vehement opposition to caste and it's deep roots in our socio-economic life and the plight of the Dalits and those in lower rungs of social ladder.
It is hence appalling that the PM, for obvious political reasons, publicly holding Babasaheb as an influence. Mr. Modi and his party's views are infamously clear - one that's solidly rooted on majoritarianism - one that is plucked from the fascist playbooks and played successfully by autocrats across the world, current example being Mr.Erdogan in Turkey.
Without an iota of doubt one can say that the BJP doesn't sympathize with any of his views out of sincerity but only for political mileage - mobilizing the Dalits as a vote bank who holds Babasaheb in esteem. And this mockery of Indias prodigal son, after that of Sardar Patel, Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose, Swami Vivekanand among others is unsurprising as a mere means to an end - to aid the electoral machine in sustaining and solidifying power.
All one can truly say is NaMo🙏
22:46 BR Ambedkar "There is a vast difference between the North and South, the North is conservatives, the South is progressive. The North is Superstitious and South is rational. The South is educationally forward, the North is educationally backward. The culture of the South is modern the culture of the North is Medieval." best quote Ambedkar has ever said and sadly still applies so well!
There are no founding father's of Bharat
Karan what a great interview, with a great mind Sashi. I totally agree with the views expressed. Actually I feel our supreme leader is as much a "bhakt" as he was a "chaiwala". And Hindi, though a beautiful language, is not a national language. In fact in a country so diverse we can't have a national language. Nationalism is a thought that joined us all together and got us independence, we were a diverse country then and proudly a diverse nation today and would be that way.
@arwind sawant so you fill in the blanks and enlighten us
We need somthing to bind us otherwise we hindus will diversed and devided other religion will rule us again
22:30 Ambedkar truly was a visionary, sad that the same rules applies today with regards to North vs South, A conservative, religiously intolerant & superstitious North imposing it's disregard onto the Progressive, tolerant and rational South.
@@debodatta7398 BS. There you are off on your divisive agenda.
North stood up to one of the most brutal invasions and stayed Hindu. I do not think any other indigenous civilization can lay claim to that level of bravery and fierce loyalty to their faith. And I am a south Indian. This 'enlightened' South, they completely fall for the most ridiculous weird missionary tricks and propaganda.
22:46 BR Ambedkar "There is a vast difference between the North and South, the North is conservatives, the South is progressive. The North is Superstitious and South is rational. The South is educationally forward, the North is educationally backward. The culture of the South is modern the culture of the North is Medieval." best quote Ambedkar has ever said and sadly still applies so well!
6:47; ‘If you can’t defeat them then appropriate them’ is the ploy of the hindutvawadis; it started with Buddha by instituting him as the incarnation of one of the caste-loving god called Vishnu, followed by Vivekanand who always made scathing remarks against the very concept of caste and abhorred casteism from all platforms, recently they have appropriated Patel who as home minister had banned the RSS calling it the breeding ground of terrorist, and now it’s Ambedkar…….
good analysis
No comparison for Dr. Baba Saheb in the past , in the present and in future too. Simple
Great discussion,very well interpret ed.
Ambedkar is the most wise one who convinced even Gandhiji to eradicate the social discrimination and injustice prevailed in hindvitwa, which he had given priority than fighting for freedom.His ideology is that,getting freedom is of no use,without eradicating this injustice in the majority hindutwa.... BJP still has to understand this among their cadres.
22:46 BR Ambedkar "There is a vast difference between the North and South, the North is conservatives, the South is progressive. The North is Superstitious and South is rational. The South is educationally forward, the North is educationally backward. The culture of the South is modern the culture of the North is Medieval." best quote Ambedkar has ever said and sadly still applies so well!
Enjoyed this interview
I am a hindu but i accept the reality as ambedkar stated
22:46 BR Ambedkar "There is a vast difference between the North and South, the North is conservatives, the South is progressive. The North is Superstitious and South is rational. The South is educationally forward, the North is educationally backward. The culture of the South is modern the culture of the North is Medieval." best quote Ambedkar has ever said and sadly still applies so well!
Give respect Babasaheb he was Dr,
@@thebobbysisters yes castism exists in South but we can see they are fighting against castism for long but here in North we don't see any revolution against castism..
They will never discuss Ambedkar's view on Islam, uniform civil code, article 370 and that he wanted a complete population exchange between India and Pakistan.
Even if they discuss it for hundreds of hours, I tell you no one shall ever reach to a hundred percent consensus.....ever!!!!
These are endless debates, yet all political figures "use" them for their own political milage.
Wire has the dubious distinction of selective amnesia
Shashi Tharoor will be remembered for his wisdom.
Give back your properties to us u uresian pakhandi
Jay bheem jai mulnivasi
Modi-BJPigs-RSS-Hindutwa Fascist ideology has UNDONE ALL the “Reforms” you mentioned, and taken the country to a rapid downhill to DISASTER…mixing HATE with Religion with Politics with Divisions taking the country to regression, agression, lawlessness and unrest! Autocracy and theocracy at best! How BLIND is the majority!
@arwind sawant You are an andhbhakt. You dont know what you dont see.
@arwind sawant
You are right on this point. But there are many deep rooted casteism, class differentiation still exists in Hindu society and all parties including congress used appeasement policies, to continue in power differently in different states. See...
No person of lower caste is ready to lose caste identity or reservation given in the name of caste for jobs or selection procedures in various institutions in india because of the benefits they receive from state.
Still many people believe that caste is the only reason people are not respected or supported. There are number of reasons for identifying people in any society.
Color, jobs, positions, financial status, power, and so many multi factors.
Congress supported all nonsense when they were in power. But now they are in a point of no return, panicked,confused, trying to fix the image through various media finding new definitons from history and trying to come back to power or in main stream politics.
This is not going to be listened by majority since majority speaks all local language other than English.
🤣🤣🤣🤣💪no for his love stories in parliament
Honorable Dr. Ambedkar was the most educated and logical leader. Indians are very lucky to have him as a eye opener Rational Leader and explained what is written in manusmriti, otherwise no one read and knew it. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
There is an old saying Hindi "Samay aane par gadhey ko bhi baap banana padta hai" (To bring situations in your favor you have to make/call a Donkey your father).
That is what BJP is doing by making Ambedkar as their Icon, just to get more votes from SC/ST category.
Are you calling dr. Ambedkar, a gadha?
You got it so right!!!!!
You are the bastard of many donkeys.
On the language issue Ambedkar was very right as well, English although a foreign language to the land what is today India and the regions nearby, also the language of the colonizers, has proven to be great advantage to Indians when competing internationally, also nationally it has been the qreat equalizer among states and their own languages...
It should be left out to the states to decide which languages they want to develop and work on...and center should have no business deciding all this, Hindi as any other Indian language is an equal, it cannot get more or less importance than other languages...
Common language is more powerful than nationalism, or may be complementary to each other to sustain. Great countries like China, usa could sustain in time and create trust and wealth by accepting a common language. India trying imposing a regional language on entire country wound invite grief and fission in the soul nationally of Indians.
22:30 Ambedkar truly was a visionary, sad that the same rules applies today with regards to North vs South, A conservative, religiously intolerant & superstitious North imposing it's disregard onto the Progressive, tolerant and rational South.
There should be a compulsory three language scheme in school curricula across India
1) Mother tongue
2) English
3) Hindi(in south) and some south Indian language(in north)
As a south Indian I wouldn't mind learning Hindi, I only oppose it's forceful imposition on south Indians which not only infantilizes our local languages but also mocks the federal spirit of the Indian union.
Baba Saheb Ambedkar stand for all..!
Every Indian should read books on Ambedkar..!
The only politician, who speak sence with unquestionable wisdom, has presented his case well. Karan was decent enough to listen to him..
Here for shashi tharoor
Fantastic competing for Congress president even in loss
Much appreciated for standing ur ground shashiji👍👍
22:46 BR Ambedkar "There is a vast difference between the North and South, the North is conservatives, the South is progressive. The North is Superstitious and South is rational. The South is educationally forward, the North is educationally backward. The culture of the South is modern the culture of the North is Medieval." best quote Ambedkar has ever said and sadly still applies so well!
Mr Tharoor is a man of great mind and has superb grasp of Indian history
I'll appreciate if this interview is translated into Hindi language. A large number of RUclips viewers who don't understand English will be deprived of such a great and fruitful interview if the interview is not presented in Hindi and other major Indian languages.
What an amazing conversation. Thank you Karen and Shashi. I will read the book!
@arwind sawant 🤣🤣...pehle khud ko dekho aur phir dusron ko...hahahah
@Tarun T FYI - Here the topics are Hindu. Dalit, PM and Ambedkar...now repost your bigotry...
@Tarun T 🤣🤣koi faida nahin....🤣🤣
Excellent speech.
I have salute both of them for intelligence and good information to general public aware about Dr.B.R.Ambedkar vision.
A very interesting discussion between two great intellectuals who understand the country and its problems. India was fortunate to have a person of Ambedkar's intellect and calibre to be at hand when the country was required to draft a constitution. Besides being a legal luminary and intellectual par excellence, he knew the Indian society and its strength and weaknesses in and out by his personal experience. Our leaders must study Ambedkar with an open mind and should formulate policies where every one would feel comfortable. Ours is still an evolving society and giving undue accent to caste, community, language etc. can only retard our social progress. Ultimately our real aim should be to create a modern society where caste and would obviously take the back stage.
great conversations by two best legends for an awesome personality Ambedkar. expecting more interviews. thank u.
The Brilent Discostoin. Jai Dr.Ambatkar and Jai Bharth 🙏 ✨ ❤ 💖 National peace and love for all family 👪.
Great analysis I expect our respected PM participate in this discussion. Congratulations to Mr. Tharoor for writing this book on Mr. Ambedkar.
Because even BJP and RSS cant say and go against the Mr Ambedkar because of his genius and the millions of followers through out the world.
It’s a slap for modi and the bjp as well, well done the wire
That “slap” comes out of ignorance! Let us not go overboard praising the “ wisdom” of Tharoor! He has his blinds and limitations, his british accent notwithstanding!
@@subhashbhagwat7411 right point he is a agenda wadi now public are wise who know what is right what is wrong
Excellent interview and candid views on Ambedkar.
@arwind sawant traitors of freedom movement can no longer mislead people with false propaganda.
22:30 Ambedkar truly was a visionary, sad that the same rules applies today with regards to North vs South, A conservative, religiously intolerant & superstitious North imposing it's disregard onto the Progressive, tolerant and rational South.
Dhur, these are all known to people who read
Great insight. Continue such progressive talks. Thapar Saab.
@arwind sawant all that talk of introspect but you yourself won’t be allowed to marry outside caste
@@sushrutsharma4966 who said to you? Your liberal sharma uncle?
Really thought provoking interview. I for one, immediately developed a great respect for the wisdom of Dr. Ambedkar. This generation of leaders need to sincerely listen to Dr. Ambedkar.
@arwind sawant From what you say, even more respect for Dr. Ambedkar. So I'm right about him.
Who is the fool now????!!!!
@Tarun T Yes, no problem. You get your ₹2!! 😂
22:30 Ambedkar truly was a visionary, sad that the same rules applies today with regards to North vs South, A conservative, religiously intolerant & superstitious North imposing it's disregard onto the Progressive, tolerant and rational South.
I think it takes few more generations for the bhakts to read what Dr Ambedkar stood for forget about understanding him, given the level of intelligence they possess and which also need good amount of free thinking mindset😂
Karan will not talk about what Ambedkar said about Muslims& Islam he is mum about Ambedkar when he said there should be total transfer of population
The debate/conversation has been thought provoking.... when they took deep dive into the ocean to find out what is hidden inside Hinduism.... the truth narrows down to discrimination of minorities & Dalits( Bahujan Samaj) which Dr. BR Ambedkar fought to eradicate it being in Hindu Society... and who even succeeded in giving Independent India a Sacred book called the INDIAN CONSTITUTION which gave the people of India as to how to run the Nation. He was a great visionary and could forecast the future of India that what he wrote & preached is being seen today and no doubt could be seen in near future as well. Karan Taper your interviews are straight with truth & daring... you are a true journalist. Congratulations and all the best in your endeavours.
When will this book become available in the US? It appears that right now it is for sale only in India,
Wow! Are you watching it from America?
Great interview for knowledge.
@arwind sawant ok
Bias debate
This is what Arundhati Roy said almost a decade ago in her book the doctor and the saint.
Jai Ambedkar Jai Bharat
22:46 BR Ambedkar "There is a vast difference between the North and South, the North is conservatives, the South is progressive. The North is Superstitious and South is rational. The South is educationally forward, the North is educationally backward. The culture of the South is modern the culture of the North is Medieval." best quote Ambedkar has ever said and sadly still applies so well!
It's surprising how dr. Ambedkars statements said in 1930s,40s are still valid to this date and are turning out to be true.. Visionary, intelluctual,rational, progressive mind.
love how Karan says " and even the occasional Nobel Laureate" . Come to think of it nobody comes close to his portfolio of discussions in Indian Media.
My god let tharoor speak, keep your opinions to yourself, you are the interviewer for god sake
Great Interview. Thank you.
Two Caste Hindus discussing Ambedkar. Where is "a" Bahujan's Point of View ???
Thank you Karan. Your brilliant quotes and questions play a very important role for the interviewee -the great Dr Shashi Tharoor-to bring the truth about such important issues that the people have a right to know and expose the hypocrites before the society. 🙏🙏🙏Too good an interview….Looking forward to more such exposures 👍
22:46 BR Ambedkar "There is a vast difference between the North and South, the North is conservatives, the South is progressive. The North is Superstitious and South is rational. The South is educationally forward, the North is educationally backward. The culture of the South is modern the culture of the North is Medieval." best quote Ambedkar has ever said and sadly still applies so well!
Two good English speaking individual..nice to see this interview
Great Interview. Someone needs to translate this interview in Hindi for the Northern Zone.
Wow, with no internet. Respected man understood so much about our society and it's issues. His intelligence has given us a sturdy democracy, but our stupidity can destroy it
I feel sorry for bjp because they don't have any figure of their own.
Sardar Patel was Congressman.
Ambedkar Saheb is the leader of Dalits and RSS never liked him.
Ambedkar Saheb also embraced Buddhism.
Recently we have seen that since Gautam embraced Buddhism, bjp got annoyed.
Ambedkar is becoming more and more relevant to Indian politics, but the problem lies there, that those who are followers of ideas of Ambedkar, are divided for different reasons, BJP & RSS are shrewd enough to misguide & mislead the masses, which has become their best strength.
Only unity of the Ambedcarite is the only solution.
We all know about BJP-RSS's policies but even Tharoor is proud to be a Hindu and has written about it. Hence if BJP-RSS has double standards on Ambedkar, doesn't Tharoor has on being a hindu?
You are saying you are ok with BJP-RSS double standards as long as Tharoor has double standards 🤣🤣.... Have your own brain bro.... What Dr. Ambedkar said - is still relevant today... Dalits being tortured at one part or other part of the country- is still happening...... I believe he was right in his writings. Now ruling dispensation is working day in and day out to put all country's wealth in the hands of Brahmins businessmen and that too from their own State Gujrat... Same Gujrat which allowed Mughals to come into India.... same Gujrat who never have any martyred soldier in the history of independent India... looters mostly are actually from this state only....
@@kareemkhan-hv1yp Not at all.. I despise BJP-RSS politics and their multiple standards (not just double standards). You got me totally wrong on Ambedkar.. I am an hardcore Ambedkarite. All I was saying that Tharoor preaching on Ambedkar is totally superficial and understated.
This point only relevant if Tharoor brings his religion into politics and governance the way bjp does. As long as that’s not the case he’s merely calling out the bjp hypocrisy.
@@tantravision You should also read what Ambedkar said about Islam and how he wanted a complete population exchange.
English should always continue as the business laungage of India, because english provides a *level playing field* to all Indians.Making HIndi the Only launguage of India would be akin to making _Urdu_ the only launguage of Pakistan (including then Bangaldesh) by Jinnah. We all know what happened to that experiment.
Another Awesome Interview from the Senior Journalist
I totally agree with Ambedkar on Hindus, Hinduism, Hindutav
@arwind sawant then why has section of tribals and Sikhs become naxalite and terrorists??? Logic is very simple, if you alienate a particular section of society then you will have pay a price for it. Unfortunately Hindutva bigots like you will never understand Ambedkar or Bhagat Singh.
Regular media channels shy to report and discuss the news of thousands of people taking 22 oaths of Ambedkar.
Rajinder Gautam was just present on one such occasion and he was forced to resign.
this is politics to create fear in the mind of Dalits. He himself has resigned no one can make dalits fool this a political stunt
@arwind sawant : Mr Sawant where is your place in the caste structure of hinduism; below-at par-or above the bammans 😂😂😂Hope you know why Mrs Khole from pune filed the FIR against the domestic help belonging to your caste …🤣
If needed this interview should long because he should be asked questions like:
1. How Congress is far away from Dr. Amedkar's ideas?
2. Is Ambedkar contradicts Shshi Tharoor's ideas in the book - Why I Am Hindu?
3. Clarifications on questions he raised on Dr. Ambedkar about Gandhi and others?
These were very essential questions that Thapar should have asked Mr Tharoor, it would have been really interesting to see his responses and justifications.
Very good insight and a good conversation
Hinduism is said to divide people and in contrast, Islam is said to bind people together. This is only a half-truth. For Islam divides as inexorably as it binds. Islam is a close corporation and the distinction that it makes between Muslims and non-Muslims is a very real, very positive and very alienating distinction. The brotherhood of Islam is not the universal brotherhood of man. It is a brotherhood of Muslims for Muslims only. There is a fraternity, but its benefit is confined to those within that corporation. For those who are outside the corporation, there is nothing but contempt and enmity,” BR Ambedkar wrote in ‘Pakistan or Partition of India’.
Many bjp net-warriors often quote Ambedkar’s statements from his book ‘Thoughts on Pakistan’ wherein he seems to bat for a separate State of Pakistan carved out of India on the grounds of mutual antipathy between the two communities. But what they cunningly hide from us is the fact that Ambedkar rather preferred a separate pakistan for muslims than an unified hindutva dominated hindustan in which the muslims were suppose to exist as third rate citizens at the mercy of the very casteist oppressing castes hindus who did not even ascribe the status of humans to bahujans and women who comprised more than 85% of their very own religion. The present overtly casteist-communal bjp govt is bent upon proving Ambedkar was right in his understanding of hindutva and its narrow minded oppressing castes votaries who shamelessly rejoice upon Sunak’s selection as UK’s PM but sneer at the italian roots of Sonia Gandhi …
If somebody believes Modi when he says he's an Ambedkar bhakt, then he is very naive! Modi's "bhaktology" sways with the wind & changes like the frequency with which he changes his clothes.
I still wish Shashi had won Congress Prez. election
What a knowledgeable man he is
Kharge is nobody in front him
🤣🤣🤣 i like his love stories in parliament
IS THAT THE SUBJECT NOW ?
Most of us are not as well read as these 2 gentlemen so simply hailing anyone or anything means nothing, quite simply.
That said, Karan Thapar is barely having a conversation nor asking the guest for his opinions, rather making all the assertions and simply expecting Shashiji to acknowledge the same. Although Thapar didn't come across as promoting his book, i really didn't see why he was even invited to hear his own views :)
No discussion on poona packt and how Congress kept on ditching him throughout his life. Dr. Ambedkar was lot more than what has been discussed in short discussion. His idea to address Hindus as pigmies and dwarf has not gone well with two Hindus who are discussing him. It will be only well understood by the people who are actually suffered due to such identification of Hindus.
Jai bhim
Jai samvidhan
Jai Bharat 🙏
Very sharp and bold discussion. Need more of this. Congrats to the team.
Interviews like these should be telecasted on national television. Again and again.
@arwind sawant fools like you...haha
@arwind sawant I THINK U GOT U R 2₹
jai bhim
What did Ambedkar say about Islam and Christianity
someone tell Thapar - we came here to listen to Tharoor
Hehe true
That's the only proper with Mr. Thapar. His questioning is too lengthy and at the same time doesn't allow the interviwee to express himself completely. Otherwise it's a thought provoking interview.
@@subbaraoguruprasad5749 yeah this was a good topic ... and he keeps rephrasing the guest's answer, asking later "am correct in interpreting what you said"
Modi will be the remembered for ever.. He has done lot to break the cast system. Putting
Respected Droupadi Murmu as president of India and taking her inside famous Hindu temples are just fabulous. If Modi can break the Muslim votes (basically wins the confidence of Muslims although he has reached out to Bohra Muslim successfully) then leftish/liberals/minority appeasers will be left with very little option to compete with BJP.
Modi's/BJP's achievement for reform or economy is phenomenal.
There is some essence in listening to these two talk.
Not just some .. takes on the bare facts of being seriously conscious humans ..
Some political parties are"sometimes" hypocrite but BJP is always hypocrite.
22:30 Ambedkar truly was a visionary, sad that the same rules applies today with regards to North vs South, A conservative, religiously intolerant & superstitious North imposing it's disregard onto the Progressive, tolerant and rational South.
Any majoritarian religion based government or state is against the idea of democracy be it any religion.
1. Christian states were against Jews. India accommodated them as family.
2. Look at islamic states like Iraq and Afganiatan. Also Iran where Hijab protests are taking place. And they also criticize Saudi Prince's Liberal stance and his regard for Female rights like driving.
3. Myanmar's Buddhist mojoritarian government and Sri Lanka's majoritarian Rajapaksha government killed minorities(Tamil Hindus).
I can go on and on
But still I believe Hindus have accommodated a liberal mindset.
Speaking of caste system it is based on Karma(action or work) and not Birth.
Me and my two friends had a chemistry tuition teacher in 12th and we still touch his feet whenever we meet and we knew he was from ST. But we regarded him as our guru.
Somewhere down the line Hindus fell into the British idea of caste system. Which was just to please Maharajas I think. That's why when we were in our golden era or even during Muslim rule we didn't hear much about upper-lower caste. And thus rich upper caste were also taught this in british education system. Divide and Rule strategy.
But now we're coming out of that.
I can understand Ambedkar ji's mindset after being exposed to such misguided society but still he was someone who just wanted equality and not any caste's rule over other.
We have a 'lok devta' (human regarded as god) named Baba Ramdev in Rajasthan who introduced 'Jamha Jagran' which is like a function for people for all walks of life which spread message of equality. He was a Hindu Kshatriya King and believed in Equality and Justice, we Still celebrate a huge Baba Ramdev mela (fair) where where devotees from all strata of society do miles of foot march towards his resting place and People provide 'seva' to them during their journey.
Real education and such Ideas of Equality can change a society.
Can't say about marriages, Parents decide that in India be it any caste or religion 😐
What a fantastic way Tapar sir. Wonderful interview. Salute
1. Is Hindu really religion ?
2. The world Hindu comes from which language exactly ?
3 . How's the world Hindu originates and from what ? Please elaborate what are the facts behind it ? Thank you !
Can Karan n Congress discuss about Ambedkar view on Islam,Muslims n Gandhi,Nationalism
Hypocrisy is basic dna of Hinduism
Good fun listening to the interview. Needless to say , we Indians can always outdo ourselves when it comes to hypocrisy.
Well Mr. Ambedkar by his speech clearly had views against Hinduism.
But, we must also read his view many a times in support of Hindus. If we read his journey, we see many times ambedkar had tried to reform the Hinduism with other Hindu reformers.but, was opposed by orthodox at that time. However, he was not willing to leave Hindusim in the first place but was hopeful for a change in the thinking of Hindu society. and unfortunately at the end he gave up for reforms in Hinduism and converted to Buddism.
He was also pursed by jinnah to convert into Islam but his views were also against Islam.(people should also read his views on Islam because we should not allow one sided anti-hindu arguments to let decidethat Hindusim was only opposed and others were good.)
Note: I am not against any religion.but I tend to often see media only showing Ambedkars views which were Anti-Hindu and not the other one. As a student of history I can say because at that time the Hindu society was not ready to change due to orthodox views of contemporary times Ambedkar was hurt and had such strong words because of his anger at that time. (But it was not his fault).
However, we are in 21st century were we see changes in many ways in the every society and Hindus and dalits being friends and relatives of each other. And I can say that Hindu society also have realized fault line in Hinduism and changes are taking place.
No doubt if ambedkar had seen such reforms at his times. He probably would have been the most happiest person. because reforms in Hindu society was the thing which he was unable to do.
The fact is things like this do take times to change. Because not an individual but whole society is changing.
Probably he could also had supported BJP in Hindu society reforms movement who knows what had happened.
Kudos to you Karan, you deserve the best in journalism. People like you and Ravish from NDTV are playing vital role to ensure Journalism is alive and trying to save democracy
Sashi tharoor supports Hinduism and ambedkar. If that is not contradictory, what bjp is doing is also not contradictory. Actually Hindu nationalists advocates for neo- Hinduism or revivalistic Hinduism. And they consider Buddhism as a part of it. Revivalistic Hindu traditions wear saffron, they are against caste and more organized. So acc. to them Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism, Arya samaj etc are revivalistic traditions. And they support Ambedkar in the act against caste inequality and they didn't agree with him in attacking Hinduism as a whole. But they ignore it bcz they know what made ambedkar say that and it should be taken in that sense. One thing should be noted - bjp will accept Ambedkar ( bcz he was a Buddhist and thus hindu) but will never accept periyar.
Why Ambedkar thoughts on Muslims are not shared? Half truth are as worse as blatant lie.
They are discussing Modis hypocrisy. They are not discussing what Ambedkar thought about anything. Ambedkar was quite critical of Gandhi. That too is not a topic for this interview
Interesting to learn what Ambedkar said which is against BJP's ideology. Ambedkar equally vocal against Islam and its treatment of Dalits . Jai Bheem jai meem parties also use Ambedkar . selectively pick and choose is the policy of political parties and also the same is seen in this interview
Very informative. An eye-opener.
Salutes. Sashimi tharoor for giving reply of thapar ji.modi ran away from interview
Modi is hopeless.gawar in comparison to u both and past leader
Hatao and bhagao.this.Pm.from.this post
Sir, I am a Madiga by caste, Christian by religion, I am a true Congressman, from 1982 sticking posters Congress is my mother , was a student leader, I found Shashi Tharoor is an amazing personality, he should have been the President of Congress Party, I believe he would have brought a change.
You say you are a christian but I am pretty sure your caste certificate says your religion is ‘Hindu’. I have many Madiga classmates who do the same for reservations. Hypocrites.
I agree with you Samuel. But I found it amusing that Shashi Tharoor was all praise for Ambedkar's condemnation of Bhakts in politics but forgetting the fact that he, Shashi Tharoor himself is a member of Congress party which comprise of so many blind Bhakts of Gandhi family so much so that they I clyding Shashi Tharoor is ready to accept Rahul Gandhi as his leader even though we all know that Rahul has hardly any political experience or qualities to be a leader as compared to Shashi Tharoor or many other non Gandhi leaders in Congress. So we have the highest form of political bhakti still being practiced in Congress by all congressmen including Shashi tharoor himself.
@@peepingtom4626 Certificate says i am Indian Christian
@@peepingtom4626 in J&K govt allowed Christians in reservation.... So your claim is baseless
@@kingnole4237 Christians allowed in obc reservation not in sc st.
What is more important is what he said about Gandhi and congress.
They will ignore it because it doesn't fit the narrative.
Most awaited interview. This book is gem. ✨
Hinduism is said to divide people and in contrast, Islam is said to bind people together. This is only a half-truth. For Islam divides as inexorably as it binds. Islam is a close corporation and the distinction that it makes between Muslims and non-Muslims is a very real, very positive and very alienating distinction. The brotherhood of Islam is not the universal brotherhood of man. It is a brotherhood of Muslims for Muslims only. There is a fraternity, but its benefit is confined to those within that corporation. For those who are outside the corporation, there is nothing but contempt and enmity,” BR Ambedkar wrote in ‘Pakistan or Partition of India’.
@arwind sawant I'm aware with the statement of Ambedkar regarding muslims. He was mellifluous orator but that time was nadir phase. Being an archetypal person doesn't mean you can't be wrong.
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It diminishes Ambedkar’s position to say he had a deep dislike for Hinduism. Anyone who reads his magnum opus-The Annihilation of Caste- cannot but understand that his quest for the annihilation of caste meant the annihilation of the Hindu scriptures, since they form the basis of Hindu beliefs and practices that have sustained caste in India.