Are Private Universities in Singapore Worth It? - SIM, KAPLAN, MDIS, PSB, RMIT, UOL, UB, MURDOCH
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- 6 different private university students in Singapore gather to talk about their universities and school culture. We find out if a degree is important, debunk or confirm stigmas, and whether it's actually worth it.
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:34 Do you think a degree is important?
4:10 How much are your school fees?
5:47 Why did you choose the specific university that you are in?
7:48 Do you regret going to a private university?
8:30 Do you think that private is different from local?
10:25 Do you think there is a stigma to private universities?
13:17 Do you think it's easy to get a job from the university you are in?
14:47 What is your school culture like?
17:44 any advice for prospective students?
- Singapore Institute of Management
- Kaplan
- Management Development Institute of Singapore
- PSB Academy
- Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology
- University of London
- University at Buffalo
- La Trobe University
- University of Sunderland
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We'll be bringing Local and Private Universities together in our next video! Let us know what you want to hear from them in the comments!
would love to hear if they can share about the workload differences, differences in semester durations and which one they can cope better with please!!! ☺️ and also miscellaneous things like classroom environment and also maybe differences in grading systems? :)
If you have the option to choose again and eligible to qualify, will you go for local or private uni. What are the consideration for poly graduate when choosing which uni (eg, course duration, cost, modules, lecturers, future advancement like masters degree, double degree options, change in course flexibility, internship etc) .
Could you do one on EmbryRiddle? One of the rarer private Us
Thank god. What is this echo chamber approach lmao
@@phs8122 I bet private will still say they will choose private. It hurts their ego a little to spill the truth ya
Could you also bring in people that did their undergraduate studies overseas? Would love to understand how they feel alongside people with local/private degrees!
Don't get why people keep bashing and trying to compare local and private uni. They're different, local is better and we all know, I don't think anyone is saying private is better than local schools. But at least people is trying to get a degree here even it might be not that good. They can be rich students who just want a degree, poor students that save up money to go to private schools. It doesn't mean you pay money then you get the cert alright, there's still exam and assignments. So many jobs in the world and they can't even find one decent job? I don't think so. I think the main reason for those that are bashing private schools student in Singapore.
1) Have narrow mindsets
2) Local who look down on private (in anyway)
3) Don't have a degree but jealous of private cos they have the money to go for private at least
4) People that just wanna be sour and negative
At the end of the day, in Singapore it definitely matters if you're from local or private but we can't straight up define people from private are lazy etc. It's their choice and who are we to bash them just base on their qualifications, if you're a employer then it's your choice who you wanna hire. Have a good day.
If I’m being honest and blunt, you definitely need a degree as a bare minimum in today’s world. I currently live and work for a global consulting company in London and the bare minimum is not just any degree but a 2.1 honours degree. I guess the answer to that is you may not need a degree if you aspire to be an entrepreneur like Richard Brandson and Steve Jobs but then again how many of us actually end up like them? I think they need to be exposed to reality.
I think degree only matters when a potential employer does not know you and they need some sort of higher education cert to accredit that a candidate has basic knowledge and the ability to learn on the job. Beyond that, your career is based on relevant work experience and personal referrals. So ya, any degree is useful for the first step. Better to have one than none if can afford it.
So you want a doctor from an online university to treat you
Do the same work, get paid less, without a degree. Is that what u like? Lol
In an ideal world yes. In reality, no. A degree from a brand university matters.
If he passes an aptitude test and does 4 years of medical service which is compulsory for all doctors in uk and us.... yeah
thank you for this informative video!
thanks for the great video! totally relatable cos im in a priv uni now too :)
Hope you’re doing well Mae! :)
Thanks for the honest answers.
If you want to work in Singapore, it is better to take a local degree. I have a private degree and come from a working experience of more than a decade. It's plain and simple. Unless you are talking about extremely prestigious Uni in the world such as Harvard Uni, if not, a local degree in a local setting is the best.
This was a painful one to sit through. The lens of which they view things are painfully narrow. True some industries don't require a degree, but if you want to join a fortune 500 company in any exec role. Do you think they're hiring diploma holder when even top candidates at local unis are being edged out by candidates returning from cambridge or harvard?
The lady on the top right has restricted her perspective to derive the answer that 1. a degree is not as important, 2. a private degree is of equivalence to a local university. You're not fast tracking life by going to private U for shorter number of years, you're finding the next best alternative. If you were suitably talented enough you could complete your degree in NUS with honours in 3 years.
Understand your point of view but you're being unnecessarily harsh on her. She's from RMIT after all.. If you've been to this school then you'll know that 90% of ppl there are unambitious and are extremely lax when it comes to life in general. You'll be hard pressed to find one that scored even an internship at a F500, given the typical hiring process that requires multiple stages. They will just deem it as not worth their time for a $1k salary. Yes, that's how narrow-minded they are. The remaining 10% are capable people who are academically shit that's all. No hate, just facts and statistics
@@SHINeeKeyofLucifer yea maybe was harsh singling her out, but she seemed to be the most polarised of the group. It's just the general perspective they hold that irks me, not them as people.
These kind of discussions are exactly why they are pointless. It's more of a platform for people who know in one way or another they've lost out some way to try to find some consolation in the circumstances they are in
Yeah a degree, like any form of standardised can be seen as a signal. It’s not always accurate, there can be false negatives, but it’s a useful one. Like to be successful in software engineering you might not come from a formal background or come from a good school, but by probability alone that is pretty rare. You have to be very talented and possess the right aptitude which cannot really be learnt. Since in demand courses are selective by nature, you tend to get a group that has a better combination of hard work and smarts. In turn the environment becomes more competitive, you attract more recognised lecturers and there’s a self propagating cycle of causes and effects. There’s just quite a number of factors, for most people it might not matter in the long run but in many cases it’s still important. It’s the same thing as whether your secondary school matters. For corporate or knowledge-based roles all else equal you’d take a RI student over one from Bishan Park. But for creative roles not so much. It all boils down to “if you went to X, chances are Y”. Maybe some of the things thought thought to be Y don’t actually hold true, but a lot definitely still do.
@@SHINeeKeyofLucifer did you pull those figures out of your ass?
Opinion from poly to uni student. Degree discrimination is definitely a thing in the labour market. For example, within some govt job positions, executive are mostly reserved for non degree holders. University discrimination may also be a thing. Hiring managers will definitely look at the university as one of their hiring consideration before u get your interview. Of course as you proceed to your second/third job job experience becomes more significant than where you study for university but coming from a university with reputable name will surely help you secure a better first job for where u gain your first formal working experience aside from internships. So yes, I believe that where the degree comes from matters to a certain extent on one's career path and opportunities - referring to the average Joe excluding the outliers..
University of London is a federal university. While its members are famous (e.g. Imperial, LSE, UCL and son on), University of London does not offer any degree in UK, that's why it is called "external degree"
UOL is the hardest degree
Since the degree and test have been designed by LSE
& at the same time, the grading system depends on just a piece of paper 100%
So they expect you to do what elite students do in LSE
The degree is still accredited and if you get FCH, you are able to finish another year in LSE and get their degree instead.
can yall do a video to get views & perspectives of students who actually is studying/studied overseas? would help me alot! 🙏🏼
I was from poly -> local uni, to be honest, I feel that whatever knowledge or hard skills you obtained while pursuing a degree only equip you with 20% of what is required for actual work, the rest is mainly gained through work experience and self-improvement. Go and apply for internships between semesters as early as possible to get a sense of the soft skills you would need to develop to function well in your future career track.
Local uni, private uni, overseas uni, all these are just labels. it is just a piece of paper (an expensive one no less) at the end of the day, no one will really care if you scored an A for Project Management 101 if you already have actual working experience doing so. Make friends, meet people, find people whom you can intellectually spar with, instead of just studying, taking exams and going through the motion. Just my 2cents.
You should try to speak to recruiters in fortune 500 companies and actually know what it's like. They immediately drop non-degree students and non-reputable unis at the first round.
Your degree determines your first job experience, which determines your future jobs.
@@JG-gf5vj exactly. With each new job application HR actually places emphasis on the brand name of your previous employee.
@@DXcl1no I met quite a few people not from NUS/NTU/SMU during my internship in P&G though, not too sure about other companies. This was in 2014 though, maybe things have changed.
@@rayzhon try the same for big league investment banks and financial institutions
Unpopular opinion because it runs contrary to the opinions of the “woke” liberals. Many industries/professions, especially occupations that are traditionally considered elite, still require and will continue to demand university graduates.
Doctors, lawyers, investment bankers at bulge bracket, consultants at MBB etc. are just a few examples off the top of my head. In fact, compared to US, academic requirements are already vastly lower in Singapore. Doctors and lawyers require post graduate degrees. Associates and above in investment banking often have a MBA from a top university.
This has nothing to do with wokeness you. Go read a book and try again.
@@Ruruisinane oh look who’s here. A woke liberal who got his feelings hurt.
And if you have taken your own advice to read more, you will have realised that the term has expanded well beyond its original use in racism but to also include injustice in society generally.
What do you expect those field require expertise and training to be in that position thus the degree in that work is require. Like would you rather trust somebody who had learn 4 years in medical school to treat you or some whack doctor without any qualification
US maybe...Uk and australia maybe not.
I started working after NSF with local poly diploma salary only $2k, with all the can do mentality and skillset required. however when come to promotion wise those with degree will have higher chance where poly chances are slim. I resigned after i wasnt promoted and sign up for a full time private degree. Grad in less than 2years starting pay is $3k. So I would say start investing in yourself, like the girl said in Singapore context degree is important, look at all the Jack Neo past movie also say already. the abv was like 10-12 yrs ago
Interview bosses/exec and see what’s their opinions.
This is an echo chamber for self consolation not a reality check lmao
Sure, bosses can tell you they don't really care if you have a degree or not...
But I believe HR would have different salary bands for degree holders and, say, diploma holders.
Likewise, each salary band would have a salary ceiling. Regardless how many years experience the diploma holder has, his/her salary would stagnate eventually. The only way the salary can increase further would be for him/her to upgrade and get a degree, and move up to the next salary band.
They are still too young to figure out. To climb up to high executive roles in MNC, degree is very important.
that is more true for govt agencies and sme. The things u study in HR cannot be apply in real life work context for sme's startup
@@JDPersuasion the majority of employers still have that mindset though. SME startups only constitute a small %.
@@kuangkyra5040, yep true...
Whn they get older and their salary has been stagnant for a few yrs, and thr are younger fresher grads frm uni whose startin pay are alrdy higher than their existing salary...
Or whn they are nvr considered for any good promotions cos they are deemed not qualified enough for high positions...
Then they'll regret settlin for just a diploma and not workin harder for that degree...
@@JDPersuasion that doesn't sound like someone who has actually worked in an MNC before
I’m from MDIS TOOOOO! Loved being there
Im gona start in Kaplan next year jan and I can’t wait I’m so excited, and I’m gona have so much time to work a pt job too. I’m doing foundation, and I already did a year of jc (but I withdrawed coz I retained HAHAHAB and didn’t like it) but I’m exempted from 2 modules so I’m gona complete in 4 months, plus another 8 months of diploma, I’m literally gona go to uni faster than my friends taking As.
There are cons tho, if u want to do certain degrees and/or specific unis, there isn’t really a way for u to choose the way u want to choose, as if u were taking As. And ig the price as compared to the price a JC Singaporean student is paying (not sure about poly) but definitely cheaper than JC if u were a PR or international student tho (I know from my friends that they’re paying around $12k half a year and it’s increasing next year)
Im really looking forward to the friends I’ll make and the stuff I’ll study tho!!
Should feature James Cook University grads too! I think it's a great university
i would say for me, the difference between a local uni and private uni also includes the opportunities that the school provide to the student.
I totally agree. Local uni usually provides a lot more sources and information on modules/ subjects as well as supports. Hence, more equipped and prepareness in your course of field. However, in private uni, everything is up to your own management (yes, you need to manage your own studies, basically you are on your feet) and the study sources are limited. Unless you are self-motivated and driven, i wouldnt suggest for private uni.
Painful - I didn't make it past the part where they raised their answer cards to whether Uni is important or otherwise.
They are all priv uni students and as a consequence the roles/jobs available to them in the market typically don't require paper qualifications. So if you are discussing whether a private degree is an asset, it seldom will be in that context.
Qualitatively though, universities are still a melting point for people to meet and build bonds thru a common experience. In this specific context then, both private and public programmes (not the paper itself) are 100% important.
+ point - eg, it is impossible to break into high finance or consulting without a branded degree. So yeah. Unless papa$ but even then, still an uphill task
It’s not always purely ab practicality, it’s about ur pride and dignity if u value it
Actlly alot of local uni kids also do pt intern & study… really depends on the individual.
Private U students think local U students only study, don’t do any internship or placement XD
Wat abt working FT while studying PT degree ??
I plan to apply to private uni in sg. But international students not allowed to work part time or do internships right? Any other alternative to gain experience according to what course we take?
In my opinion, my diploma is in culinary+business and i want change industry to media n communications. So I definitely need a degree related to it to enter that industry. Another way will be getting lower ranking jobs in media/communications n climbing my way up thru work experiences i gathered...only downfall is accepting a much lower starting salary
I notice the common choice for private uni are SIM, mdis, Kaplan, but I seldom see people from amity university Singapore. Is it good?
How do you guys recruit people on the utube HAHA sign up links?
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To me, having a degree in this era, is akin to getting an O level cert. It's really not impressive. Doesn't make you special like it did in the past.
maybe instead of fully one sided video, can have half priv uni half local uni, bcos doesnt make sense when they tried to explain local uni curriculum as the same as priv uni but much more condensed but same info rather than its actually the difference in breadth and depth
Watch out for our next video ;)
A current Univeristy at Buffalo student here. UB is not a private university it's run under the State of NY as part of State University of New York (SUNY) system. Kinda like UC.(University of California)
Guys, here to come with cet diploma part time diploma and wsdip hard to get into universities?
If private universities?like sim and other universities like universiry of wallontoo and university of london etc many different types of universities will part time diploma and cet diplomas be granted entry to these private unis?
Anyone with information on this?
Employers face challenges trying verify your degrees with some universities. It was embarrassing for a friend when bosses asked him whether his “University is still around”.
Literally every UniSIM alumni
General degrees like the ones shown are useless. Specialized degrees from STEM are very necessary. Better to get a more diverse group of speakers.
hi this is a very good channel, and very good topics to talk about in Singapore. I support this channel! Better than that Millenials channel crap.
Currently a full time student at PSB Academy under La Trobe, one thing i find it hard is finding a part time job related to the course you took as most of these requires to work on weekdays and my class is commence from Mon to Fri, so i'm only available on weekends
How's the clg, I'm planning to join in later this year for MS business analytics. Worth it ?
Advice from a private uni grad. Its like what others said, employers care more about your work experience. So PLEASE GET AS MANY INTERNSHIPS AS YOU CAN during ur uni days (or at the very least join a club). I deeply regret not getting internships during my uni days.
Great advice Dan!
As a HR major and working now. i can vouched for this. we only see experience tbh.
Next time can invite foreign students who are currently working in Singapore, I am from China, wants to have a try
if you do not have a degree, they will not consider you, that is the basic when you apply for a job where the employer does not know you. They will say they don't care after they employ you. ( note: you already got a degree ). This is the same when a rich man tells you that money is not important ... see the similarity here?
Hi Brandon from MDIS, I am currently pursuing an IT diploma in MDIS and would like to sign on with SGP police force as well after getting a Degree from Teeside Uni ....could you please advise why happened to your SGP police force signing on? Is it because SGP police force does not recognise a private Uni degree? Looking forward to your advice, thanks a million
Hi, i am a student who has received an offer for the Bachelor of Business course in SIM-RMIT. I too come from a similar background as Petrina since i have obtained a diploma in Aviation Management in RP. After watching this video, i have some questions to Petrina regarding the course load and syllabus in SIM-RMIT
1. What is the course load and syllabus like in RMIT?
2. What do the local professors usually go through with you after the RMIT professors have flown back to Melbourne?
3. Were there any cultural shocks you faced during your first semester in SIM-RMIT from your local poly background ( like in the grading system/rubrics and in the way lessons are taught) and if so, how did you manage to overcome them?
4. What made you choose SIM-RMIT over other unis?
5. Will a general degree be more disadvantageous in the long run than compared to say a specific skill-based degree (eg: marketing, computer science, engineering, etc)
Having a degree gives you more options.
Having a fake degree gives you more jobs opportunity in SG CBD?
@@damlwt6657 private = fake? Okay
@@odewjn325 Than foreign degree which is not in English but in other language which SG is not using n is recognize in SG?
@@damlwt6657 Private degree in SG not in English language?
@@odewjn325 Still catch no ball, so many FT in SG do they hold SG private school degree... R u sure about this many of them NV even study in SG but holding their own country degree n still can work in SG...🤷
A degree is relevant because employers are unable to give everyone a chance to try the job to determine whether they are qualified, suitable, capable and can do the job aside from the soft skills and team work that students can learn from, take part and work together.
Collectively, this complete experience can provide a good structured learning and training environment to prepare students to transition to the work environment without which employers cannot easily assess and determine how prepared and qualified a student is for the job.
Employers pay employees to contribute to the development and growth of the company. So, employees need to hit the ground contributing and not come in to be trained while getting paid.
Personally, I was never academically inclined. Yet I was encouraged (borderline forced) to complete uni by my pleb family members. Eventually, I graduated with a 3.8GPA from a pvt U in hopes of being "normal". Throughout army/uni I dabbled in options/futures/daytrading. After graduation in 2017, I've never once used my 1st class honours. Yet I still make an average of 100k annually over the last 5 years, from anywhere in the world I choose to be from the comfort of my laptop.
Watching videos like this really reminds me that the (study away youth > work away adulthood > retire and wait to die) model of life in Singapore is a terrifyingly mundane/purposeless way to waste a lifetime being painfully ordinary. I genuinely feel bad for the Singaporeans who sacrifice their individuality in the name of conformity. Nevertheless, I guess the cogs are necessary to keep the clock running.
Wait so you trade fulltime and have no need for a job?
Local u computer science is confirm harder than private u computer science. I went to local u first then to private u.
Why most of them say degree not needed then are studying private u for degree?
Parents force them to/thinks it is for back up for more options. Watch the vid :)
study for marriage.
@@joivivre6163 I watched it but I think it’s kinda hypocritical that they say degrees aren’t really needed then say that they are getting it for back up option
@@crabosity lol I have friends who do that. The real agenda behind is to belittle the local u degree. Since degree is not needed, private u or local u degree are the same. That is what I feel my friends are thinking la. Not sure about the video though.
Calling RMIT a "fast track" is a joke. More like fast track to be an insurance agent
actually, if one aspires to become Property Agents or Insurance Agents, diploma will suffice
@@garygoh2893 agreed, but RMIT is the Ivy League equivalent of target schools for insurance companies. You don't even need a basic Poly Diploma to get into RMIT.
Any SIM Diploma will suffice
@@SHINeeKeyofLucifer 🤣. That said, imho, a stellar GPA from Polytechnics will carry much more weight than private uni. Then again, students whom gotten good grades from poly would have gone to local uni instead
@@garygoh9242 exactly. The reality is, people who have the opportunity to enter a local uni rarely would choose private uni instead. By rarely I mean virtually none. I know a few who have but that's because the course they want - physio is not available in local unis. And they join private uni as a SCHOLAR not as a regular student. And their pre uni results are actually good, not those that would barely make it to a local uni. But these people are countably rare
From what I experience, generally speaking, local graduates tend to perform better at work than the private ones, in both attitude and quality.
For those that are about to attack and cite edge cases to prove me wrong, I believe I have qualified my comment sufficiently.
Lmao as a priv uni student I agree. My classmates don’t even turn up for lectures or put in effort for group work so how do they expect to magically be great at their job in future?
@@clairechan9340 hard truth. Good realisation over there
@@clairechan9340 You will succeed, you see what others do not see.
there are cases for those who are able to enter local uni but chose to enter private uni for sure, my friend's poly gpa is 3.7 but he chose to go private u, I have all Cs for a levels which can get into nursing,engineering but I chose to go private u for computer science which has a brighter growth prospect, for engineering you learn too little about computers and programming. I don't think people like us are any less driven than those local graduates, in fact I am planning to attain a master degree when I graduate from uni, currently at 69 weighted score which is a credit.
@@TheSwordieBrom like I said - For those that are about to cite edge cases, I believe I have qualified my comment. “GENERALLY SPEAKING”.
My starting pay 2.2k....my friends from local uni is 3 to 5k
I’m in local u but with my gpa don’t know whether can find job anot hahah
@@samuelCWM it’s getting so competitive nowadays. It’s not enough to just graduate from local uni, still have to get at least second upper, and have good internship experience.
Logical, it's lower level.
Kek my friends intern alr 8.4k hehe
Is 2.2k minus CPF already ?. You are in what industry? For poly grad in IT you can easily get 2.5-2.6k range salary that time I was working ..before I get mine private computer science degree. Now still find 3.2k above job.
how about curtin？
Got a question..private unit have academic writing? I'm struggling Damn bad....poly didn't have such things.
You need to write reports. So academic writing will be required for all unis
Private degrees hold a stigma in SG mainly because students who enrol into private schools are usually with “poor grades” who aren’t able to meet the standards of a local university.
To debunk some points mentioned in this video:
1. Local uni students only have to focus to study, study and study -> 50% true in this but majority of local students are taking up multiple internships relevant to their course of study. This resulted in students graduating with a degree + multiple internships that can prove their working ability.
2. Private uni students can have the flexibility of working PT while studying FT. > not sure if some of them have considered about studying PT and working FT? (i.e. SUSS?) What I unds from typical uni students will take up PT jobs such as retail asst, or cashiering jobs, waitering jobs etc. If the PT jobs are not going to add any value to the course of your study and you are just doing it for the sake of $, then by the time when you graduate, you’re alr losing out from the resume you have to the local uni grads.
10/10 sucks. Worst decision of my life
lol there’s no need to complicate things. The answer is quite straightforward - it’s the screening process.
We all know, if u come from a private uni, u done fck up ur tertiary education results. And the only unis that will take u in, are the private ones.
But that being said, Uni results do not determine a persons ability to work.
Are the prices they say is per year ? Or the entire course fee
It’s the entire course fee ✌🏽
The girl from PSB mention she paid 24k per year so other than her others are mentioning the entire course fee ?
Can you please comment here the school fees/yr and how many year you study.Thanks!I find this video informative!I can share this video to my children!❤️
Study a few hours and after that, go shopping and eating . Don’t waste your money .
Given my personal experience in a private uni vs Local uni friends, I do have more time for myself to study, and to work at the same time. Local uni doesn't provide that flexibility. The only cons now is that due to the pandemic, it's hard to make friends. That's one of the biggest con I have for myself attending uni in the pandemic. To those naysayers that compare local vs private, yes, there is the stigma, which is caused by you people. Not gonna lie, there are stupid people everywhere and anywhere, not just in local universities. Peace out.
will you believe in a person with 2 semesters and 8 distinctions then change mode-university - recommendation.? how to say i recommend university accounting modules in-place of geylang ICPAS.? how to say insead(french business) instead of accounting-software manual.? economics-banking instead of banking and finance. fiinance-business instead of business-MIS or worse - business. legal-business, legal-civil-engineering, legal-public-administration, ... who will dare study.?
But what I want to say is that private school is much easier to pass compared to public ones.
Would've been better if the line up is more racially more diverse. Then the subject could've been addressed with more diversity and greater in-depth, especially since the treatment of this subject adopts the sharing of personal perspectives. Lived realities about attitude toward private degrees are definitely more varied from those shared in this video.
Thanks Alfian for the feedback. We appreciate it and would create content to include diversity in our future shoots. Do let us know if anyone is available and willing to be included in the shoot ❤️
What ia the point of uni if only got exam paper lol???
Now try it with international students (indians)
how can u graduate with a degree and not have any employable skills?
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Idk why everyone in these comments has a stick up their ass but unless you’re going into a specialized field (medical, law, etc) you don’t need a degree to have a successful career. There are a lot of options out there, and in person experience goes a long way. I know plenty of people who never went to/finished college and are doing just fine. Find internships or do volunteer work, those work just as well in finding you a job
12:32 --> shopee hahah
Let's be honest nus and ntu degrees are preferred. It's either oxbridge or some US degree or nus and ntu. Otherwise you get streamed on matters of pay or progression. Later they will require you to produce a lot more, if can try to get nus and ntu, it's an open secret for success in Singapore. Tier 1 us and oxbridge, tier 2 nus and ntu and then private would be tier 3, why take the risk?
how about SMU, SUSS, SUTD And SIT?
@@JG-gf5vj smu is OK, but if you can aim for the oxbridge or an ivy league. If cannot, go with nus or ntu. Smu depends of you're aiming for social sciences... why bother when engineering is easier to enter? If possible go with nus and ntu, if cannot then go with a private school and then still complete your nus and ntu masters degree. You don't do this future more or less will be extremely difficult or limited. Don't take risk once you get older things get difficult. Optimism is all good but we all know how things work, yeah, don't take meaningless risk. Mt boss said this my boss said that, nonsense be a little realistic and pragmatic about chances.
@@illuminatusdeus3051 r u saying I shall only enter SMU for its social science?
@@JG-gf5vj social sciences of business and it intersection. I recommend, depends on what programme, choose carefully. Avoid their communications programme not very well received. Depends on what you want I guess, see where you will feel happy and you think can score a higher cgpa. Your first job depends on your degree classification. Smu is obviously better than private school, if faced with sutd or suss and all that, then stick with smu. Look up the rankings and see where they are strong. Smu ranks very low compared to nus and ntu. DO note, a long time ago SMU was known for its 'american' education style, now that's not the case. I've seen smu grads struggle at some places, so be careful on what you pick. Obviously better than private school, anything is better than private school - see the rankings and see where you will be happy.
think about yourself, where you think you will be happy, have some good friends around and where you can spend 3-4 years. ntu's acct prog is 3 years if i remember correctly, direct honours, you should also consider length of course. good luck!
@@illuminatusdeus3051 why is Smu grad mean salary highest then? Hmm
I am currently enrolled in one of the private universities in Singapore. I will be graduating with a bachelor degree(UK). After graduation, i am planning to apply for master’s at the local universities such as NUS and NTU. But i am worried that the local universities wont recognize degrees from the private universities. Should i be worried about this issue?
yes
@@irvintoh3087 Thanks!
Yes, the level at private universities is lower than at local universities. People go to private universities if they can't secure a place at a local university. Of course employers also know that.
Hi it is possible tho provided that you have good grades and a lot of involvement. I came from a private uni and I know someone from diff course than mine is currently pursuing for masters in NUS. He has a lot of commitments with cca clubs, taking certified online courses and yes he has a first class honours. You can have a better chance too if you take up some projects as well.
@@hanz7234 I think it depends as well, if you have job experience than you may be able to apply.
Well unless you plan to stay in Singapore your whole life, then yea a degree is NOT needed. but I don't plan on staying here sooo
It really depends on the industry and how far you want your career to go. After poly I worked for over 10 years before deciding on a private degree.
I work in tech, so actual skills is more important at the entry/mid level BUT after more than 10 years, my salary became stagnant, it hit the max what companies willing to pay for my position. To get paid more I have to have a degree. One senior director even told me it doesn't really matter what I study they just want a degree holder, I need one to qualify for management position.
Frankly speaking , study 3 hours a day and only 2 times a week , how much can you learn ? Don’t waste your money .
I heard employers don’t accept the MDIS degree.
Wht irony mdis hv lot of international student which is good environment to groom someone to ready work in diverse working culture or if he/she work in mnc company
@@alvinfg3133 but in the end it seems like a waste, as you can't even work there without a degree.
It really depends as I ever met a lecturer who graduated from MDIS. Ultimately, your experience and attitude plays the biggest part so yep.
@@lisaoppa5784 where have you studied?
Not 100% true. I have many friends, even foreigners, who graduated from MDIS and they're already working in SG.
UOL is the hardest degree
Since the degree and test have been designed by LSE
& at the same time, the grading system depends on just a piece of paper 100%
So they expect you to do what elite students do in LSE
How about UOW? CS i mean. I am sure there is a diff from local to be frank but i do think UOW and UOL has some standard
I'm a private university graduate, and managed to get into the Frontline of investment banking after years of slogging in backend dead roles. I Defo regret not studying hard enough and had to get a private degree from UOL. Wasted many years of my fucking life.
I think one good thing private university have is that they do hv lot of international student especially mdis which then help you to be able to work with ppl from different background while working later
Does it make a difference for the job position due the honour one gets ? I only heard from my friend who worked in a bank that honour can get slightly diff pay
@@miaomiao07 nope. As long as you are in private you immediately face an uphill battle fighting for top jobs. By top jobs I mean those paying 10k sgd for a fresh graduate.
Can share your route to IB sector? I tried looking for investment analyst intern/traineeship but i couldn't get any after almost 1 year after graduation.
@@yukiweiqi most jobs, not only top jobs
I wanna be doctor, i dont i need a degree... :)
Guess it doesnt work that way.
They already said that it depends on the job that you're pursuing.
Obviously, if you want to become a doctor, you must have a degree.
These are university issues the pass for international students
Thats why they are good you feel like studying overseas while studying there especially mdis
Uol is tough and the best, see how many can pass their year 1 intro the Econs module haha.. PwC hires uol grads as auditor associates, on par with local uni accounting grads...so go with UOL, you will suffer during studying, but worth it
Big 4s typically hire any fresh grad lol. They are overrated among the fresh grads
LOL public uni grads are shifting AWAY from big 4 my dude. It's like taking what's left behind
@@DXcl1no depends on the course and class of honours too I guess. Going big4 is still like a badge of honor to many when I was a student. I have friends who are proud cos they have meeting at 11 pm. 😅
@@JG-gf5vj local uni students in tech with a gpa of 3.2/5 can get 4.5k starting salary at a small fund management company. Why would anyone want to go to big 4 for a full time job :) only the misinformed local uni students tbh
Cool story bro
Opinion from a poly->local uni student. Degree doesn’t matter at all. What matters most is your learning and passion. Don’t rush into a local uni for the reputation, or private uni just because you need a degree. Take the time to plan ahead and decide what you want to achieve from the programme (internship, relevant skill sets, industry knowledge, possibly certification while schooling, building portfolio, etc) that would contribute to your long term career goal. 💪
Degree doesn’t matter at all…. Then why did you go to Uni? Should drop out now, and start working earlier to gain more experiences, since degree doesn’t matter at all.
@@JG-gf5vj bro u salty or smth is it
You literally comment every comments I’ve seen so far, lol
@@peanut3797 I am bored XD
@@JG-gf5vj yeah, he contradicted himself.
join Foodpanda or Grab no need degree.
Hopeless bunch of people who don’t do what they preached. Why do a CORRESPONDENCE degree course when they don’t believe in it? The title of this video should be “on-campus” vs “correspondence” course.
these guys speak as if they are veterans in their respective industries
They are kinda delusional.
I feel bad for them...
Private uni should not worth much. If it does, then whats the point of going local uni? Might as well close them.
And the fact that it is harder to enter into local uni, its only fair those who make it deserve more in sg. People are just complaining because they can't make it and wanna get another alternative(pay money) kind of route to get degree so that they can be "on par" with those who got local degree. Which to me doesnt make sense
i wouldn't say it's not worth, some may not have a choice. if you notice, local unis lean more towards science, business and economics. yes we do have comms and such but it's very broad. eg i want a degree in journalism but they dont offer purely journalism and writing here, id have to take up a whole comms degree when i already have a diploma in it and to me it isnt worth it to learn the same thing i did in poly, hence, priv uni
I am currently studying at SIM - UOW and I felt that the standard in terms of module have the same level with local unis but just that it makes student to have a better focus of module in a term as to bring a study-life balances. It will be better to achieve a bachelor degree so that there is a wider varieties of career in life and to gain even better skills and knowledge.
R u saying private U prepares students better than local U?
@@JG-gf5vj It depends on the course and school management.
@@mathewlovegod please cite an example, would like to understand better
@@JG-gf5vj UOL is the hardest & best degree
Since the degree and test have been designed by LSE (which is the best )
& at the same time, the grading system depends on just a piece of paper 100%
So they expect you to do what elite students do in LSE
@@The_business_Podcast ok good to know it is good. Doesn’t answer my qn of why UOL is better than local U though. It is a comparison here.
I think theyre the more successful private deg grads thatz why they support
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Yeah man! Welcome to the American way of learning, you choose what you learn. Also, we do nutrition in undergrad because US undergrad must do all kinds of course, then in their junior year, they choose their major. Lastly, (an anal neuropsych here) it is not true your brain region do the same job all the time. There is plasticity with your brain.
To the girl at the back, whatever your name is, La Trobe, RMIT and Murdoch are still bad universities in Australia. There's distinction everywhere. In which world do people not compare? (Btw, when applying for jobs in some MNCs, you're suppose to declare whether you completed your degree in the country where your certificate is issued or not.) You put in more effort trying to convince others private uni = overseas uni than in your studies, you're living a lie. I am from a top overseas university so don't tarnish our name, you're making the rest of us who put in effort cringe inside.
This is very sad but true.
good high ranked university in Australia are Australian National University Melbourne University and University of Sydney.
Latrobe is fine and maybe Murdoch . RMIT...i hear bad things about it
Why no safe distancing ??
Haha u'll b surprise the same person who tell u I don't look at ur degree will say the opposite to a person with no degree.
For marketing and sales related jobs, degree is 100% useless.
Experience, attitude, and practical skills is all that matters.
The buffalo guy is really hot
Nah
Degree important or not important is a stupid generic questions.
There are successful people with and without degree.
I scored a lowly poly GPA of 2.23
Join work force earlier than my university frens and obviously also happen to buy a bto flat that raked in a princely profit of $320K profit with $200K cash in bank and the rest mandatory in cpf.
My salary til now is still much lower than my degree frens but i have an ordinary stress free job and look forward to my luxury house and enjoy activities with my kids everyday.
Moral of story: property investment LOL!
Guess you have rich parents. That is definitely the fastest route to success without a degree. 200k cash in bank? Any fresh graduates who have this amount of money in their banks should thank their parents.
@@cancanjaker1620 is $320k profit of which is $200k cash….this is what happen when a man lives in his mom house for too long…dont know how the system goes zz
well, in that case you should thank PAP. HDB profit of 320k are the thing of the past, and you are lucky to catch the rise of HDB prices during the 2000s. It is definitely not because you are smart nor related to you succeeding despite not having a degree.
@@cancanjaker1620 already said property investment right and said abt my low gpa? There is not an inch of me mentioning a thing boosting smartness.
Could u please at least retake your O level english?
HDB profit of $300k are still going around in sengkang and punggol. U duno becos u are not in the circle…
Thats why poor people remain poor forever, dont know how to study and also dont know what is happening.
Only know how to hide in Mom’s room surf free internet and free this n that.
Who are u trying to bluff uncle?
By the way my big profit HDB is 2011, not 2000s. Im staying in 4 bedder watertown condo now if u even know what is it.
Continue your way of peasantry life, peasant. I dun wanna waste my time conversing with a loser from another world.
Dont drag me into your frustrating realm of failure in life.
@@tankooson7115 Sigh, it is not an investment when you buy a HDB but I guess you don't understand. It is only your second property that it is an investment. You made a profit because you lucked out when you happen to buy when HDBs are still cheap and PAP change policy to allow HDB to be sold on free market.
Its sucks💯💯💯💯
very sad.
Don’t waste your money to study in private schools .
Just get a degree from India and you can live as an expat in Singapore hahahaha
Depends india has one of the toughest exam for people who want to take engineering or medic degree
Uptron ftw
Yeah, buy a degree from India and scam your way to work in MNCs in SG.
Poor quality video.
😂 A bunch of cannot study people getting a paper to show that they can study...
Dont be arrogant and belittle others because you are not that good either.
@@Emsyaz he is not arrogant, he is just stating a well known fact
Do a UOL degree, then come to spread your stupid judgments
@@Victor-rt3fx Bullshit. Some thses UOl grads do really well. Just that your government does not show it
@@Emsyaz Most NUS grads end up taking up jobs that are lesser than their expected GES, cause the companies pay them what they want to pay them
Singaporeans should really spend money on making their accent more nuetral.
I kind of get where you are coming from.
But their accent is also what forms part of their singaporean identity.
Why leh 😜
It is just a communication tool, target audience are apparently Singaporean. Even with their “non-neutral” accent, it gets the points across. Your comment tho, what’s the point lol?
They are Singaporean, why must they neutralise their accent? So everybody in this world neutralise. Nonsense. It’ll never ever happen. U don’t understand what is accent.
what counts as a neutral accent? american or british?