2:50 ok but that iridescence is otherworldly wow! Im tempted to get one of those again. It's been 6 years since i only keep plakat bettas, my current one has a matte brown color with no iridescence. I thought he looked so primal, especially with the black water tank.
I spent hundreds and they were so *weak*, never made it long, I have old plakats I bred myself that are still hearty years down the road. I really think there's a vigor in the ones that haven't traveled.
yup, I agree, they never last long for me either. Forget about breeding too as I get too many still birth if you breed them you need to outbreed them to wild and then breed them back. Not practical IMO
Great video. Awesome pics and videos of the foshes. Almost owned one alien and in the end I got a Siamoorientalis instead. I'll look at these Aliens differently now. Nevertheless they look great to me
They need some salt to avoid fin rot. They have some Betta mahachaiensis in their genetics which is a brackish water species and all brackish water fish tend to get fungus and fin rot without salt. The other thing is their is a tonne of leaf litter in their environment. Keep them in a paludarium brackish setup with bumble bee gobies, mudskippers and pipefish with some scuds and aquatic isopods and you'll have a entertaining ecosystem. You can also have nerite snails, amano shrimp, mangrove trees, blue leg hermit crabs, Pseudomugil cyanodorsalis. If you feed live brine shrimp they will live much longer in the brackish water too and will survive in the leaf litter.
I have 3 inches of space from them too but I put a lid anyways. My little guy is a gorgeous monster, attacks everything and starts jumping out of the water before I even drop the food 😑
I notice my copper alien gets fin rot once in a while. He heals quickly. His home is very clean. Be careful when you get one of these fish. They will have problems.
@@BlackwaterAquaticswhat do you think about crossing aliens with samaragdinas?? Will it produce a better strain of aliens health wise?? Or maybe even give them a more unique look??
I have some aliens and splendens right now, but if you want the other wilds we will get them sometimes the end of this month. We been delay because of home renivation
good vid, but really disagree with your conclusion. I believe the goal as a breeder is NOT to get a spawn of this or that pair of fish. your goal should be to pull the traits you want while strengthening the genetics. maybe you are right and the alien hybrids are weaker so then the work is to back cross to wild stock and select the young that keep the show qualities you like while improving the immune genetics and overall health. same for the fin rays. breed to get the ray strength and the show quality you want WHILE improving the vitality of the fish. simply telling people not to keep these fish, especially when they are so beautiful, just opens the door for alot of inferior breeders to propagate fish to the market that make the gene pool weaker and weaker. if you love wild types and want to stay pure, that is fine. but this is not what a many breeders will do or believe. maybe your vid should have some focus on the genetics to breed for to improve the stains and strengthen the overall vitality.
I actually like the look of aliens, i just dont reccomend them to begginer since they do not have the same health quality as domestic/wilds. The point is not to sway people away from keeping them but to make people aware that they are not a wild type betta and they are not good begginer fish. Good aliens stocks are far and in between, i would personally look for short fins and thick long body since these phenotype correlate the highest with Longevity. Breeding back to siamorientalis is a good idea to start.
@@BlackwaterAquatics agree, generally tank raised splendens plakats are hardier, but that maybe because they are tank raised and have some immunity to tank diseases that wild crosses do not. there are things you can do to improve vitality (probiotics, fulvic acid, almond leaves, vitamins and mineral supplements, food preparations, etc.).
Firstly man good video but at some point it’s not correct 1) the mahachaiensis is already green it is all a part complexe that you can find at Mahachai and only at this place 2) wild betta split in a lot of form slpendens, imbelis, guitar (only few part of Isan), and mahachaiensis (only at Mahachai) these are true wild betta 3) how to recognize a wild with a alien The scale of alien are close together and don’t have black separate between it
Basically any wild bettas crossed with splendens will have alien babies. But the one you typically see in the internet are a loooooong process of selective breeding, inbreeding & linebreeds, and outcrossing. Ive'd tried making my own aliens in long fins and its a hard. Currently at F4
Hey i am really curious about few Things. 1. Where are you from? That you got wild Betta/Plakat 2. Do you know how to select a good/aggressive Betta/Plakat from a normal or weaker one? ( I am watching those Thailand Videos and i would Like to understand how people can See Something in certain Fisches that they Pick/buy them etc. 3. Can you really train them? Or is IT Just a myth besides letting them watching there own Mirror or Having Fish looking at eachother every day for few mins. (Sorry for all those question Hope you got time to share and answer) Greetings ✌️😁
All my aliens are just as healthy as my imbellis or plakats 🤷🏻♂️ i’m sure there are people put there selling decent lineages and those selling with defects just because its a pretty fush
@alexhutton155 my aliens are also very healthy. But around the 1 year mark is when you see the difference. Doesn't happen all the time and obviously as a seller I will never sell those compromise fish :)
2:50 ok but that iridescence is otherworldly wow!
Im tempted to get one of those again.
It's been 6 years since i only keep plakat bettas, my current one has a matte brown color with no iridescence. I thought he looked so primal, especially with the black water tank.
I spent hundreds and they were so *weak*, never made it long, I have old plakats I bred myself that are still hearty years down the road. I really think there's a vigor in the ones that haven't traveled.
yup, I agree, they never last long for me either. Forget about breeding too as I get too many still birth if you breed them you need to outbreed them to wild and then breed them back. Not practical IMO
Thanks for the great info and wonderful video. I wanted to buy an alien and now I have second thoughts. I’ll buy an Imbellis instead! Thanks again!
Great video. Really like your graphics.
Great video. Awesome pics and videos of the foshes. Almost owned one alien and in the end I got a Siamoorientalis instead. I'll look at these Aliens differently now. Nevertheless they look great to me
They need some salt to avoid fin rot. They have some Betta mahachaiensis in their genetics which is a brackish water species and all brackish water fish tend to get fungus and fin rot without salt. The other thing is their is a tonne of leaf litter in their environment. Keep them in a paludarium brackish setup with bumble bee gobies, mudskippers and pipefish with some scuds and aquatic isopods and you'll have a entertaining ecosystem. You can also have nerite snails, amano shrimp, mangrove trees, blue leg hermit crabs, Pseudomugil cyanodorsalis. If you feed live brine shrimp they will live much longer in the brackish water too and will survive in the leaf litter.
Good idea, I find that all bettas not just mahachai are very well tolerant when it comes to salt. Might be because they are a coastal species
I've had my male alien betta for almost 7 months now. Fiesty guy too. Likes to jump, and has jumped out of the water and onto the floor several times.
Keep the water level 8 cm below the rim of the tank if you want to keep them in the tank!
I have 3 inches of space from them too but I put a lid anyways. My little guy is a gorgeous monster, attacks everything and starts jumping out of the water before I even drop the food 😑
I notice my copper alien gets fin rot once in a while. He heals quickly. His home is very clean. Be careful when you get one of these fish. They will have problems.
I agree they always get fin rot around 9 month of age.
@@BlackwaterAquaticswhat do you think about crossing aliens with samaragdinas?? Will it produce a better strain of aliens health wise?? Or maybe even give them a more unique look??
nice sharing, i came to support super 👌🖐️👍
Ive seen them called wild hybrids because they use domestic and wild to create the hybrid, not because the fish itself is wild.
The issue is people refering them as "wild type" bettas were they are no more wild than domestics.
@@BlackwaterAquaticsif anything health wise they are worse than domesticated splendens
@@bluebird4614 yes they are prone to fin rot and muscle wasting diseases
Very informative! Any idea when you will next get a shipment?
I have some aliens and splendens right now, but if you want the other wilds we will get them sometimes the end of this month. We been delay because of home renivation
good vid, but really disagree with your conclusion. I believe the goal as a breeder is NOT to get a spawn of this or that pair of fish. your goal should be to pull the traits you want while strengthening the genetics. maybe you are right and the alien hybrids are weaker so then the work is to back cross to wild stock and select the young that keep the show qualities you like while improving the immune genetics and overall health. same for the fin rays. breed to get the ray strength and the show quality you want WHILE improving the vitality of the fish. simply telling people not to keep these fish, especially when they are so beautiful, just opens the door for alot of inferior breeders to propagate fish to the market that make the gene pool weaker and weaker. if you love wild types and want to stay pure, that is fine. but this is not what a many breeders will do or believe. maybe your vid should have some focus on the genetics to breed for to improve the stains and strengthen the overall vitality.
I actually like the look of aliens, i just dont reccomend them to begginer since they do not have the same health quality as domestic/wilds. The point is not to sway people away from keeping them but to make people aware that they are not a wild type betta and they are not good begginer fish. Good aliens stocks are far and in between, i would personally look for short fins and thick long body since these phenotype correlate the highest with Longevity. Breeding back to siamorientalis is a good idea to start.
@@BlackwaterAquatics agree, generally tank raised splendens plakats are hardier, but that maybe because they are tank raised and have some immunity to tank diseases that wild crosses do not. there are things you can do to improve vitality (probiotics, fulvic acid, almond leaves, vitamins and mineral supplements, food preparations, etc.).
Alien is strain of betta
Not spesies original from betta / wild betta
Thank you for the video! Much appreciated! Can Alien type bettas be kept with other nano fish in a heavily planted 40 gallon tank?
Yes just like any nano fish
Firstly man good video but at some point it’s not correct
1) the mahachaiensis is already green it is all a part complexe that you can find at Mahachai and only at this place
2) wild betta split in a lot of form slpendens, imbelis, guitar (only few part of Isan), and mahachaiensis (only at Mahachai) these are true wild betta
3) how to recognize a wild with a alien
The scale of alien are close together and don’t have black separate between it
Your website sell alien betta pair, what is a good tank size?
I occasionally do, but right now i have none in stock. A good tank size for a single male is around 2.5 gallon and larger.
What’s Camera you use in this video?
a7iii / a7c
What cross are they from into form to become aliens?
i believe they are a combination of solid color domestic, siamorientalis, mahachai and smaragdina.
Basically any wild bettas crossed with splendens will have alien babies. But the one you typically see in the internet are a loooooong process of selective breeding, inbreeding & linebreeds, and outcrossing. Ive'd tried making my own aliens in long fins and its a hard. Currently at F4
In the beginning of this video are those 2 male Bettas in the same tank? I would think they are too aggressive to be kept together?
Only for show, they're remove after a while. I do this to see their full finage
Hey i am really curious about few Things.
1. Where are you from? That you got wild Betta/Plakat
2. Do you know how to select a good/aggressive Betta/Plakat from a normal or weaker one? ( I am watching those Thailand Videos and i would Like to understand how people can See Something in certain Fisches that they Pick/buy them etc.
3. Can you really train them? Or is IT Just a myth besides letting them watching there own Mirror or Having Fish looking at eachother every day for few mins.
(Sorry for all those question Hope you got time to share and answer)
Greetings ✌️😁
You didn’t look up betta training videos since you are already on RUclips?
You can teach your betta to do tricks really easily.
The easiest is teaching it to jump to catch food like a SeaWorld exhibit
You speak very unarticulated and your music is too loud. What did you say at the end? Which fish did you recommend instead?
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IT IS NOT "BAY-TA" IT IS BET-TA....THERE IS NO Y....IT IS NOT PRONOUNCED BETA....OR BAY-TA...ITS BET-TA
why the need to caps like you are angry at him for torturing the fish by calling it "Beta"?
All my aliens are just as healthy as my imbellis or plakats 🤷🏻♂️ i’m sure there are people put there selling decent lineages and those selling with defects just because its a pretty fush
@alexhutton155 my aliens are also very healthy. But around the 1 year mark is when you see the difference. Doesn't happen all the time and obviously as a seller I will never sell those compromise fish :)