Identifying real true Wild Betta Imbellis (no hybrid)
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- This video is a guide for those who want to breed the best wild type betta, Betta Imbellis. I will go over some traits that I believe are ideal when selecting breeding stocks. I will also go over some traits to avoid that are indicative of hybridization. Betta imbellis are one of the most commonly hybridized fish sold in the market and finding a true Wild stock can actually be very difficult due to a large number of Thai farmers and just the general lack of knowledge around this species. I hope everyone enjoys this video, please leave a comment if you have any questions!
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This is very informational. I’m learning more about identifying wild species.
I’m also hoping that the wild betta hobby becomes more strict with how they handle pure species and hybrids, too many fish are being sold as the real species when they are hybrids. Take the corydoras hobby for example, they are strict with not producing hybrids with species and localities, this is really good for preserving the species in captivity and keeping them true to form.
Thanks for sharing this important info
Could you do one to identify females as well? It would help people who are interested in breeding pure species!
Duuude! Thank you for making this. Was sold an imbellis/ “alien” and thought he looked like a true. Will prob end up ordering a pair of true wilds eventually still a pretty fish but would love an actual wild pair
Imbellis are stunning, love mine (Frank!)
Franks are nice, but i dont know if they are all pure as he claims. Maybe in thailand they are a lil differrnt.
@@BlackwaterAquatics the Imbellis is called Frank, he's not one of Franks!!! He is, however named after Frank 🤔
@@andycarter4581 oh 😆
Thank you for all of this information; I purchased my pair from you. The female ended up dying. I purchased some cheap variety of females (long finned splendins.) The first few times the male's nest had eggs, none of the fry survived. I finally ended up taking the bubble nest and the male into a separate aquarium. Only 3-4 ended up surviving; and then the largest one killed its siblings. I'm having difficulty sexing it. I read that it's typically the males that kill each other off; but the coloration leads me to believe it's a female. It looks like the original female, which is similar in color to a female Cherry Barb. I'm wanting to know because I noticed a baby swimming around in the 40 gallon the other day. They spawned again without me knowing; it explains why the male is always hiding somewhere. I have *lots* of plants, especially floating guppy grass and Hornwort.
I'm hoping that I end up with an awesome Alien Betta. But that would mean I'd have to remove it before the adult male kills it. I don't know at what age the adult male would become aggressive towards it. I'm thinking that the one I saw the other day was a male because it had a darker body. I'm wanting to swap it out with the prior generation larger female. I think the father is less likely to kill a larger juvenile female. Any information you give would be appreciated.
@H33RO331 how did the female die?
I always separate the male from the frys after they begin free swimming. Use a bare bottom tank
@@BlackwaterAquatics , thanks. Can you elaborate on why a bare bottom? Is it so that it's easier for the male to pick the eggs back up if they fall? Also, I noticed that I answered my own questions. The original surviving juvenile is a female. More than 1 baby survived in my 40-gallon community tank, too. There's a male with bright blue colorations and a female. There might even be more. For now, I'm going to place the male in a floating plastic holder. That's what I did when they started free swimming, I put the male back into the large aquarium. The largest baby still ended up killing the other ones (even though it's a female.) I most certainly want to keep that hybrid male, though. I'm excited.
@@BlackwaterAquatics , I didn't notice your question, sorry. I'm not sure how the female died. When I first purchased them, I had a fairly large decorative cave meant for smaller fish. She immediately went in there and never came out. She was very shy. I think she just ended up starving or something. I really don't know. My female Splendins that I replaced her with gets along with the male much better. Without starting with Alien bettas, which bettas would you breed in order to produce new Alien bettas? My guess would be Smaragdina? I was thinking that after my Imbellis/Splendins hybrid male matures, I'd buy a Smaragdina female from you.
Really like your video 👍
Thank you! 😃
very good video :) love this species
Even you dont know that in the past ... There is 1 city in my province have a brown color , their color like clay color , thats why we call them clay color skin imbelis and have strong heart .
Ohh yeah , i forgot to tell you that anal fins of imbelis is come in variation , there is long and short , depend on what place and gene of their population , but usually the anal fins can also a sign to tell ages . Although there are some have short anal fins genes .
Long anal fin is a sign of age, but its also a sign of hybridnization with longer fins species. Brown color is "cambodian" which is a natural mutation in "betta splenden" type species. You can refer to the differen species within the splenden complex through genetic studies available on google scholar. Thanks for watching.
Would the original wild have a spadetail?
Spade tail are only original to splenden( the original betta splenden), mahachai, and smaragding. Imbellis and siam are naturally round tail.
@@BlackwaterAquatics I’m wondering if you could ship a pair of true wild imbellis like how you got yours to Singapore? As your website shows it only ships to the US.
@@vrchxe sorry, its better if you can try to source it in your local country
@@BlackwaterAquatics thank you. Most “wild imbellis” in my country has the red markings on the dorsal fins. Which gets me skeptic.
@@vrchxe dont be too concern about it, just enjoy
Another great video!
Thanks brother dan
You even can find ghost face , full green face and no duo green mask seperated with massive green scale at the stomach area . Only people that play imbelis in era 80's can know what is pure bloodline stock in their habitat of each city or swamp they come from , the one like my uncle , he did selection in 1 bottle that fullfil of same area been caught imbelis , he know what color the best after the seller tell where that fishes come from , even i cannot see the different , yeah ..unique...isnt it ? That fact , that is imbelis player skill . Nowadays player who play betta fighter will easily headache if play imbelis with imbelis players in era 80's . All looks same for them but not imbelis player , they can know their color and some characteristic . Long story bro ... Not that easy .
Ohh yeah ... Also there are some imbelis that cannot have color at their body although they already got angry , but only the fins have color , body is transparent or pale color ,
You are telling the true ,
In love with this video, I want your bettas now 😍
Good information bro, now with the siamorientallis please my friend......
Great video as always!
I can't wait until you get more in stock. I'm looking forward to buying a few. Thanks for the hard work.
Very soon sir!
Just a heads up i have some up on my site for preorder. Im only bringing in 20 pairs so get your spot now :)
@@BlackwaterAquatics just ordered two males. 👍
@@tin94122 no females?
@@BlackwaterAquatics No females. I don't plan on breedy them.
Its hard to find original bloodline of imbelis nowadays because many betta fighters were release to nature after fight , this fish for example to describe pure bloodline is totally wrong .
You can see their face , the more the green face darker , we can doubt it is mix , like the one in your video . We can produce imbelis mix but you cannot know is it true blood or mix but they looks pure blood .
Different place they come from , has slightly different color , my uncle can know if the fish come from one place , what color is the best color , even i cannot see it ... Betta fighting activity was massive using imbellis before betta fighter come to take place , even the first one to take place of imbellis is long tail siam fighter , and two tail fighter , long long story , only northeast people know well .
Thank you Henry. I bought some from you and am waiting for delivery. This is good becuase this is your experience your fish. I am so happy.
Your sample also a hybrid i guest
These are wild caught, they can still have non wild genes. But wild caught fish have a lower possibility of it happening.
Hi, I have a hybrid imbellis is it okay if i cross it with female
bagan betta?
please stop saying "bay-duh"... it's "bettah" similar to better
Here in socal everyone say "bay-duh" so thats what i been saying. No big issues since people pronounce things differently region to region even in united states.
No. You stop
Just started subscribing to your channel, is there a book that you can recommend on wild Bettas? Thank you from NYC.
There is no real major book on wild bettas, they are a largely an unexplored study. You can watch my video in the meantime. Both me and henry (creator of bwaquatics) are very educated people with university degree and we try our best to give the best information.
Thank you, I did watch 8 of your videos, great info.
I placed an order for a wild male betta imbellis last week from your online store. I've yet to received a notification for a shipment. I wonder how long you guys usually take to process an order? Your feedback is appreciated. Thank you
We usually ship out on monday to wednesday, henry might have miss your order. Please send us a email and we can get back to you, if its late we usually send extra freebies with your order. Another thing that could have happen is your package was delayed by usps or gotten lost, in that case please check the tracking number and get back to us asap.
Thanks!
@@BlackwaterAquatics hi, thanks for your reply back. I didn't get a tracking number which probably means my order hasn't been fully processed yet. I will send out an email to let you guys know. Thanks again!
At what size in length (centimeters) or age (weeks) can you determine if it is a male or female in fry?
You should be able to tell around 4 to 5 months
@@BlackwaterAquaticsThank you for your reply. But what size are they then at 4 months?
@@hansjoachimmarseille3785 depending on temperature, space and food . Idealy they should be sub adults around over an inch. At thay age look at the anal fins as males have much pointier anal fins and some females can become gravid.
How if i say that : that fish that you used for said true pure bloodline is had been mixed with betta fighter ? For fighting purpose , asian country had been mixed them and then breed back with imbelis , so you wont able to differ them . How about that ?
You even dont play imbelis fish in 1980's era which my uncle is a player of imbelis , he can know what color is the best base on what area they come from .
In this video imbelis that you used to say original bloodline without mix is totally wrong , look at their body shape , jaws , and dorsal fin that has a red color is sometimes occure in pure bloodline , even in my city in 80's era , we can find super red imbelis , all fins is red include dorsal ... Conclusion is : your sample in this video is mix . But percentage of mix remain in what percentage cannot judge it exactly , as my view still have 12.5 percent mix blood .
My point was that most imbellis sold online are linebred and have been mixed. The only way to get as close as possible to a pure imbellis is to catch them in the wild. This fish is wild caught, he might and probably have fighter dna in him but compare to many imbellis he is as pure as you can probably get them now.
@@BlackwaterAquatics if you see it clearly , this fish is not green but slightly grey with black dark skin . Usually we also can see the different from top , their head and mouth is bigger when they have fighter blood . However we cannot determine easily nowadays because they has been cross breed back to imbellis . So they might only have 6.25 percent fighter in their blood ,
@@BlackwaterAquatics you can check channel FRANKSBETTAS , his imbellis is pure as my view , at least more pure than yours .
@@wielijustice colors are base on direction of light. Wild fish are almost always metallic green. Its normal for some areas like the dorsal and the anal fin to be of different color.