I was an altar girl and I feel so much guilt. I worry about how much damage I caused, how many boys I prevented from serving, and how many preistly vocations I've prevented. Banning altar girls would keep girls from basically killing the church. I hate to use that language but that's how I feel.
ST. THOMAS AQUINAS: “Women need the virtue of sobriety more than men because there is in them a greater proneness to concupiscence... Sobriety is more required in women because there is not sufficient strength of mind for them to resist these concupiscences.”
I was both an altar boy, AND an altar server! By this, I mean that girls were invited into the ministry as of my second year. I overall, loved serving mass, but my interest in doing so deteriorated after my second year. Not only were girls introduced to the “altar server” ministry, but then…. so went our cassocks & surplices! We switched to albs, making things more boring!
ST. THOMAS AQUINAS: “As regards the individual nature, woman is defective and misbegotten, for the active power of the male seed tends to the production of a perfect likeness in the masculine sex; while the production of a woman comes from defect in the active power. The active power in the male is intended to produce a perfect image of itself, a masculine sex. When a female results it is either because of a weakness in this active power or because of some indisposition of the materials, or even from a change produced by an outside factor - for example, from south winds, which are humid.”
In my town I haven't been able to find any catholic church, apart from the sspx, that doesn't have alter girls and female lector. Alter boys and girls are at the alter wearing sneakers. The female lectors are wearing tight jeans at the alter while reading scripture. It rubs me the wrong way. I really would like to go to a church that is in full communion with Rome, but I can't bring myself to do it
ST. THOMAS AQUINAS: “Women need the virtue of sobriety more than men because there is in them a greater proneness to concupiscence... Sobriety is more required in women because there is not sufficient strength of mind for them to resist these concupiscences.”
Great points! You may have already answered this, but I am curious about your opinion on female extra-ordinary ministers and extra-ordinary ministers in general.
Great points. I was just recently visiting a parish during vacation and they had female altar servers. This did surprise me, as I haven't seen any for years. Your points, and that of the Church makes sense, but the world breeds inclusivity which can very easily bleed into church practices.
I am an alter Girl and we have more guys than girls at my church. I help teach everyone. On you comment on alter boys are a way for boys to later become priests. Even before alter girls their was no guarantee that they will be priests.
ST. THOMAS AQUINAS: “Women need the virtue of sobriety more than men because there is in them a greater proneness to concupiscence... Sobriety is more required in women because there is not sufficient strength of mind for them to resist these concupiscences.”
Allowing altar girls takes away from the reverence of the mass and defeats the reason why the church has altar boys in the first place. I just addressed this subject with priest and he laughed me off, said the last 3 popes all for “equality” in the church, and is why we see altar girls, which has been going on for decades. Equality?!! This priest nods to the Vatican 2 modernism, even goes as far to say altar girls frankly are better at being altar servers than boys. Huh?!! This thinking now places the emphasis on performance rather than valuing what this position was intended for in the first place, that of encouraging young men for priesthood. The priests can easily do mass without altar servers. The church has been around 2000 years. Now we are demanding equality?That’s like saying to our Lord Jesus, why didn’t you invite any women to the Last Supper. It is time to know the Catholic faith and not be of this (Secular) world.
ST. THOMAS AQUINAS: “Women need the virtue of sobriety more than men because there is in them a greater proneness to concupiscence... Sobriety is more required in women because there is not sufficient strength of mind for them to resist these concupiscences.”
In my parish there are a couple female altar servers and it is a parish that celebrates the Traditional Latin Mass( those doesnt have female altar servers) even after all of Pope Francis's new decrees. For me as long as it a lay position I dont see any problem, they are not being ordained priestes it really doesnt go against the Church's teaching because the Church doesnt ban women from being Catholic lay or ordained. I dont understand why women want to be priests if it is a search and longing for God and wanting to dedicate their lives to the Lord then why not become a Nun. It seems like a jealousy towards men over the fact that men can celebrate Mass if ordained as priests. And I think that is the problem here, these women dont care about God or dedicating their life to God, they only care about having what the men have. Returning to the female altar servers, if they truly want to serve God just like they do during Mass as altar servers then it might help them decide to become Nuns. This Idea of altar server being training to be a priest would only be slightly modified to being training to be an ordained member of the Church. Regardless of the gender the use of the altar server position is still that of a path to a closer relationship to God which is what we should all search for
I am of the reason that there should be female alter servers hear me out. One of the best alter servers I new was a female. My argument is that it is a good starting point for if girls want to be sacristin
Not following your reasoning. Saint Bernadette, Saint Therese, Saint Rita… etc.. all the beautiful nuns “called” to serve certainly weren’t altar girls.
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I was an altar girl and I feel so much guilt. I worry about how much damage I caused, how many boys I prevented from serving, and how many preistly vocations I've prevented. Banning altar girls would keep girls from basically killing the church. I hate to use that language but that's how I feel.
No need to feel guilty. Leadership is to blame.
How much damage I caused to the doorways*
ST. THOMAS AQUINAS: “Women need the virtue of sobriety more than men because there is in them a greater proneness to concupiscence... Sobriety is more required in women because there is not sufficient strength of mind for them to resist these concupiscences.”
I was both an altar boy, AND an altar server! By this, I mean that girls were invited into the ministry as of my second year. I overall, loved serving mass, but my interest in doing so deteriorated after my second year. Not only were girls introduced to the “altar server” ministry, but then…. so went our cassocks & surplices! We switched to albs, making things more boring!
Thanks for sharing!
ST. THOMAS AQUINAS: “As regards the individual nature, woman is defective and misbegotten, for the active power of the male seed tends to the production of a perfect likeness in the masculine sex; while the production of a woman comes from defect in the active power. The active power in the male is intended to produce a perfect image of itself, a masculine sex. When a female results it is either because of a weakness in this active power or because of some indisposition of the materials, or even from a change produced by an outside factor - for example, from south winds, which are humid.”
In my town I haven't been able to find any catholic church, apart from the sspx, that doesn't have alter girls and female lector. Alter boys and girls are at the alter wearing sneakers. The female lectors are wearing tight jeans at the alter while reading scripture. It rubs me the wrong way.
I really would like to go to a church that is in full communion with Rome, but I can't bring myself to do it
So many people are in the same position as you are.
ST. THOMAS AQUINAS: “Women need the virtue of sobriety more than men because there is in them a greater proneness to concupiscence... Sobriety is more required in women because there is not sufficient strength of mind for them to resist these concupiscences.”
Great points! You may have already answered this, but I am curious about your opinion on female extra-ordinary ministers and extra-ordinary ministers in general.
Amazing and strong points!
I can tell you a medievalist, praying in Latin. I challenge you to say that Jesus would tell a girl "I DON'T WANT YOU TO SERVE MY MASS!!!"
All solid points!
Great points. I was just recently visiting a parish during vacation and they had female altar servers. This did surprise me, as I haven't seen any for years. Your points, and that of the Church makes sense, but the world breeds inclusivity which can very easily bleed into church practices.
I am an alter Girl and we have more guys than girls at my church. I help teach everyone.
On you comment on alter boys are a way for boys to later become priests. Even before alter girls their was no guarantee that they will be priests.
Well, you're bald. So...how about them apples?
I was a female altar server from 1991-2007. Being an altar server bought me closer to G-d than any talk from a priest or Sunday school.
I don't agree with girl altar boys
How about that tradition says so? Period.
Do we have to get into the dangers of coed server functions to the souls of the serving boys?
ST. THOMAS AQUINAS: “Women need the virtue of sobriety more than men because there is in them a greater proneness to concupiscence... Sobriety is more required in women because there is not sufficient strength of mind for them to resist these concupiscences.”
Allowing altar girls takes away from the reverence of the mass and defeats the reason why the church has altar boys in the first place. I just addressed this subject with priest and he laughed me off, said the last 3 popes all for “equality” in the church, and is why we see altar girls, which has been going on for decades. Equality?!! This priest nods to the Vatican 2 modernism, even goes as far to say altar girls frankly are better at being altar servers than boys. Huh?!! This thinking now places the emphasis on performance rather than valuing what this position was intended for in the first place, that of encouraging young men for priesthood. The priests can easily do mass without altar servers. The church has been around 2000 years. Now we are demanding equality?That’s like saying to our Lord Jesus, why didn’t you invite any women to the Last Supper. It is time to know the Catholic faith and not be of this (Secular) world.
some parts of the church are too much of this world, instead of in this world.
ST. THOMAS AQUINAS: “Women need the virtue of sobriety more than men because there is in them a greater proneness to concupiscence... Sobriety is more required in women because there is not sufficient strength of mind for them to resist these concupiscences.”
Disagree with your anti-catholic position. It's a weird spin. But anti-catholic none the less.
In my parish there are a couple female altar servers and it is a parish that celebrates the Traditional Latin Mass( those doesnt have female altar servers) even after all of Pope Francis's new decrees. For me as long as it a lay position I dont see any problem, they are not being ordained priestes it really doesnt go against the Church's teaching because the Church doesnt ban women from being Catholic lay or ordained. I dont understand why women want to be priests if it is a search and longing for God and wanting to dedicate their lives to the Lord then why not become a Nun. It seems like a jealousy towards men over the fact that men can celebrate Mass if ordained as priests. And I think that is the problem here, these women dont care about God or dedicating their life to God, they only care about having what the men have. Returning to the female altar servers, if they truly want to serve God just like they do during Mass as altar servers then it might help them decide to become Nuns. This Idea of altar server being training to be a priest would only be slightly modified to being training to be an ordained member of the Church. Regardless of the gender the use of the altar server position is still that of a path to a closer relationship to God which is what we should all search for
I am of the reason that there should be female alter servers hear me out. One of the best alter servers I new was a female. My argument is that it is a good starting point for if girls want to be sacristin
Thanks for sharing!
Not following your reasoning. Saint Bernadette, Saint Therese, Saint Rita… etc.. all the beautiful nuns “called” to serve certainly weren’t altar girls.
Yes, I believe that women would be the best as we are organised better but should we? What good comes out for girls who serve by the altar?