Constant seasons and progression resets kill wow endgame for me, gear and power are just a temporary means to obtaining fomo cosmetics now. People used to live in videogames, it was like real life, you knew your neighbor, you knew the people on your street, getting something cool used to matter cause you could show it to the people you cared about. Those people don't exist anymore, now we play games on a freeway where everyone's flooring it to their fomo destination, skipping as much player interaction as possible as they fly by at 100mph. The neighbor's you used to have are now nothing more than soulless cars just flying by, worthless, ignorant and noisy.
Totally agree. Seasonal content and the "old" (last patch) content being dead and useless after one reset is such a drag. And hamster wheels like M+ where you can never feel accomplished because there's just another higher key after slowly take their toll. Not sure how/if they can get that magic back but forever thankful we have the classic realms! Appreciate you watching the video :)
It's bc "competitive" gaming became more popular. Like dnt get me wrong there's nothing wrong with competitive gaming but it formed the "gotta go fast" or "I wanna be the very best, that no one ever was" mentalities and in some games those are find but its spilled into game where thise mentalities dnt belong. Like ffxiv, the journey to endgame is fantastic! I haven't even made it to endgame yet but I love the game and there is so much to do inbetween endgame that you get side tracked but then I'll watch a stream or vid on youtube and ppl more concern with "Big dmg number" but wipe constantly and blame their team bc they never took the rime to learn the mechanics. That's why lvl skips exist, which I mever understood like why wouldn't you want to play thru the content that made so many ppl fall in love enough for it to catch you attention. (Unless you have like 3 alts then lvl skips make sense.)
@@tyreehawkins5403Competitiveness isn't the cause imo.. I think it stems from fomo the most, and they use fomo to herd players into content they might otherwise have not done at that point, so the only reason they're there at all is the limited time reward, like almost all seasonal rewards.
Great video man. I agree with a lot of what you said. I think the problem with world of Warcraft these days is that taking a break for any length of time sets you back so far from everyone else it kind of feels overwhelming when you come back. It’s like you have to constantly catch up or feel like you’ve missed so much content. I love collecting mounts/transmog and achievements and by taking time off it just adds to the list of things I have to do to feel like my account is still relevant. Maybe it’s just me… I love the game but I can’t be bothered to constantly upgrade my gear every season and have everything I’ve worked for in the past become irrelevant.. I guess I just prefer horizontal progression 😂
Absolutely love WoW... but man yeah seasonal gaming really takes me out of it! I mean I get why they do it to level the playing field every few months but that ends up just dulling everything from those who never left. Appreciate you watching though and will have a vid on a horizontal progression game soon 😎
I could not agree more, is why I took the step to GW2 sadly leaving WoW, but omg was I glad I did, not looked back since in 10+ yrs now and so worth it.
I 100% agree, I love wow. I stopped playing Retail in Dragonflight... I started playing Classic era wow again and only logged into Retail for the trading post.. Now I cant even bring myself to log in even for the TP.... Classic wow is just what WoW has been missing for a long time.. im level 60 now, doing endgame and the game just has far more soul than retail and its incredibly hard to ignore.
It's tough too because Dragonflight is so good IMO! But yup same I then find myself on classic after 2 weeks... Just has an element that can't be replicated these days. Thanks for watching :)
Early and mid-game are my favourite times of any MMO that I've played. There's an intensity with some endgame content that just doesn't appeal to me. I went through the early and mid-2000's in clans and guilds full of people screaming on Vent and had my fill of it. I've found some chill guilds since then but pretty much always have more fun levelling and exploring with them rather than getting serious about something like a raid. That's not to say I won't ever get serious about something in the endgame, it's just that it's a rarity when I do.
That early and midgame feeling of simplicity and exploration is something I'm not sure any endgame can beat! People definitely under-appreciate the difference a good guild can make on a player experience. At the end of the day its an MMO and the right way to play is however we most enjoy it :) thanks for watching
I played WoW from beginning until Legion then left for a while, came back to try Dragon's then left as GW2 I can play casually, no more constant chase for "BIS Gear" to be able to actually access "end game" and community was better along with no more stuck on dead servers with inflated Trading pricing and cross-server that gives no benefits and no more subscription, I would rather Buy, and play when I want, instead of feeling like a 2nd job trying to constant login to keep up, to play what I like when I like.
Seasonal content and gear resets will be the death of us all if we let it 😆 really kills my WoW vibe at the end of the day so time to explore the MMO space!
I played ff11 for years, and 99% of that time spent on the game wasn't end game content. For the most part I was more interested leveling a new job, etc. than getting into the endgame. The fact leveling was a slow process, where you actually cared about your gear progression, made it much more interesting to me than what more recent mmo decided to do with the non-endgame progression ( including their following ff14 ).
Never tried FF11 should I give it a look? My biggest issue with FF14 was just the insane time wall of the campaign. I appreciate slow progression and questing very much but I don't like being forced into one path for hundreds of hours with no chance to progress without it. Definitely new player off putting to an otherwise awesome game!
@@Vizzient From what I understand, the current ff11 ( at least on official server ) isn't really comparable to what it was when I was playing it. As in you can now do your whole leveling solo, *and* probably like 20 times faster than the xp we were getting at the time. So while it still probably has many things I loved, I can't really say what the experience for a player feels like now.
It already kill wow long time ago, get max lvl asap then farm all content, that's the mentality of most of wow players, sadly I won't be different. I quit Wow again and now I have more fun doing quests in Lotro and playing Metro Last light (really good history)
Oh I feel ya I'm a recovering WoW addict! Currently spending my days in GW2 and New World and loving it. Glad you found something new you like and thanks for watching :)
You aren't wrong! However because you can do this content and then still be able to level up afterwards for me really puts OSRS in a class of it's own. In a good way!
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Constant seasons and progression resets kill wow endgame for me, gear and power are just a temporary means to obtaining fomo cosmetics now.
People used to live in videogames, it was like real life, you knew your neighbor, you knew the people on your street, getting something cool used to matter cause you could show it to the people you cared about.
Those people don't exist anymore, now we play games on a freeway where everyone's flooring it to their fomo destination, skipping as much player interaction as possible as they fly by at 100mph.
The neighbor's you used to have are now nothing more than soulless cars just flying by, worthless, ignorant and noisy.
Totally agree. Seasonal content and the "old" (last patch) content being dead and useless after one reset is such a drag. And hamster wheels like M+ where you can never feel accomplished because there's just another higher key after slowly take their toll. Not sure how/if they can get that magic back but forever thankful we have the classic realms! Appreciate you watching the video :)
It's bc "competitive" gaming became more popular. Like dnt get me wrong there's nothing wrong with competitive gaming but it formed the "gotta go fast" or "I wanna be the very best, that no one ever was" mentalities and in some games those are find but its spilled into game where thise mentalities dnt belong. Like ffxiv, the journey to endgame is fantastic! I haven't even made it to endgame yet but I love the game and there is so much to do inbetween endgame that you get side tracked but then I'll watch a stream or vid on youtube and ppl more concern with "Big dmg number" but wipe constantly and blame their team bc they never took the rime to learn the mechanics. That's why lvl skips exist, which I mever understood like why wouldn't you want to play thru the content that made so many ppl fall in love enough for it to catch you attention. (Unless you have like 3 alts then lvl skips make sense.)
@@tyreehawkins5403Competitiveness isn't the cause imo..
I think it stems from fomo the most, and they use fomo to herd players into content they might otherwise have not done at that point, so the only reason they're there at all is the limited time reward, like almost all seasonal rewards.
@Zetherior Yeah bc two things cant be right without one being wrong huh? That's the issue with humans right now. Lol.
@@tyreehawkins5403bro learn to read..
Great video man. I agree with a lot of what you said. I think the problem with world of Warcraft these days is that taking a break for any length of time sets you back so far from everyone else it kind of feels overwhelming when you come back. It’s like you have to constantly catch up or feel like you’ve missed so much content. I love collecting mounts/transmog and achievements and by taking time off it just adds to the list of things I have to do to feel like my account is still relevant. Maybe it’s just me… I love the game but I can’t be bothered to constantly upgrade my gear every season and have everything I’ve worked for in the past become irrelevant.. I guess I just prefer horizontal progression 😂
Absolutely love WoW... but man yeah seasonal gaming really takes me out of it! I mean I get why they do it to level the playing field every few months but that ends up just dulling everything from those who never left. Appreciate you watching though and will have a vid on a horizontal progression game soon 😎
I could not agree more, is why I took the step to GW2 sadly leaving WoW, but omg was I glad I did, not looked back since in 10+ yrs now and so worth it.
Amazing video!
Much appreciated :) thanks for watching!!
I 100% agree, I love wow. I stopped playing Retail in Dragonflight... I started playing Classic era wow again and only logged into Retail for the trading post.. Now I cant even bring myself to log in even for the TP.... Classic wow is just what WoW has been missing for a long time.. im level 60 now, doing endgame and the game just has far more soul than retail and its incredibly hard to ignore.
It's tough too because Dragonflight is so good IMO! But yup same I then find myself on classic after 2 weeks... Just has an element that can't be replicated these days. Thanks for watching :)
Early and mid-game are my favourite times of any MMO that I've played. There's an intensity with some endgame content that just doesn't appeal to me. I went through the early and mid-2000's in clans and guilds full of people screaming on Vent and had my fill of it. I've found some chill guilds since then but pretty much always have more fun levelling and exploring with them rather than getting serious about something like a raid. That's not to say I won't ever get serious about something in the endgame, it's just that it's a rarity when I do.
That early and midgame feeling of simplicity and exploration is something I'm not sure any endgame can beat! People definitely under-appreciate the difference a good guild can make on a player experience. At the end of the day its an MMO and the right way to play is however we most enjoy it :) thanks for watching
@@Vizzient Exactly. Great video that got me to subscribe. Looking forward to your other video when I get time. 😁
@@ChaddicusRex Appreciate the support friend! more to come :)
Great vid, good pacing and good edits. I saw them furries 😂
I played WoW from beginning until Legion then left for a while, came back to try Dragon's then left as GW2 I can play casually, no more constant chase for "BIS Gear" to be able to actually access "end game" and community was better along with no more stuck on dead servers with inflated Trading pricing and cross-server that gives no benefits and no more subscription, I would rather Buy, and play when I want, instead of feeling like a 2nd job trying to constant login to keep up, to play what I like when I like.
Seasonal content and gear resets will be the death of us all if we let it 😆 really kills my WoW vibe at the end of the day so time to explore the MMO space!
I played ff11 for years, and 99% of that time spent on the game wasn't end game content. For the most part I was more interested leveling a new job, etc. than getting into the endgame. The fact leveling was a slow process, where you actually cared about your gear progression, made it much more interesting to me than what more recent mmo decided to do with the non-endgame progression ( including their following ff14 ).
Never tried FF11 should I give it a look? My biggest issue with FF14 was just the insane time wall of the campaign. I appreciate slow progression and questing very much but I don't like being forced into one path for hundreds of hours with no chance to progress without it. Definitely new player off putting to an otherwise awesome game!
@@Vizzient From what I understand, the current ff11 ( at least on official server ) isn't really comparable to what it was when I was playing it. As in you can now do your whole leveling solo, *and* probably like 20 times faster than the xp we were getting at the time. So while it still probably has many things I loved, I can't really say what the experience for a player feels like now.
It already kill wow long time ago, get max lvl asap then farm all content, that's the mentality of most of wow players, sadly I won't be different. I quit Wow again and now I have more fun doing quests in Lotro and playing Metro Last light (really good history)
Oh I feel ya I'm a recovering WoW addict! Currently spending my days in GW2 and New World and loving it. Glad you found something new you like and thanks for watching :)
I just love leveling
Same here my friend! I want devs to put as much love into leveling as it deserves.
@@Vizzient talking from the heart
runescape doesnt have endgame? What is theatre of blood and chambers of xeric?
OSRS is mostly endgame boss updates these days
You aren't wrong! However because you can do this content and then still be able to level up afterwards for me really puts OSRS in a class of it's own. In a good way!
The endgame is the fun part though.
Don't get me wrong I love me some endgame 😎 just want well rounded games. Thanks for watching!!