I am glad you mentioned how you had an emotional response the the last scene you described. Mine was similar. I was diagnosed with HIV in 1984 in February. It is a day I will never forget. I watched almost everyone I cared about die really horrible deaths, and families that were sometimes ambivalent at best (I like to remind people of that in the struggle for LGBTQ rights) . I don't think people your age and younger fully realize the horror of that time and how if affected predominantly the gay male community, and how many of the people my age (I'm 57) were wiped out. I still to this day have an extreme sense of guilt at being alive. I struggle to find my purpose sometimes. While you might be a work-a-holic, I have a very hard time with close relationships for fear that they will also die...even decades later. As they were talking about it on the show I felt this all too common knot building in my chest of all that emotion trying to make its way back. We all make it just a little easier for others when we talk about it. On a much lighter note, Jessie... Have faith in the series arc, they don't always disappoint. You might be surprised.
I had an emotional response too it I was hatred. I was bored and I tried to stomach an episode but it's just too lowbrow for me. The reason soaps operas run in the daytime is because intelligence people are at work. Plus soap operas are so unbelievably easy to predict where the story is going. Star Trek used be about deductive reasoning and enlightened and intelligent writing. Now it's unwatchable and written by children.
The cool thing about going thru your Star Trek episode comment threads is how some folk bring up bits of trivia from across the Trek 'verse. Jessie leads, we follow. Yay!
Culber's story this season is completely my stepmom's story over the last year. The therapist hitting burnout because stretching themselves too thin helping others process global trauma is leading to them avoiding processing their own, creating a snowball effect that leads to self-sabotage and an inability to help the people they feel obligated to help. Considering this is something that nearly tore my family apart this year, this is something that hit REALLY hard. I was a wreck after that scene with Kovich and had to pause for a bit to get collected again.
I didn't mind the non-urgent evacuation. When we were on the station, things were actively breaking. A rescue is always more urgent than an evacuation. Also, Vance ordered Saru to give the visiting scientists whatever he needed whipe Burnham was leading the evac. So I think the evac felt less urgent to give the screen time needed to develop that part of story further.
I get it. 18 years ago, I survived a cancer that kills 90-95% of the people who get it. The survivor's guilt has never really left me. I struggle with my own relevance, my own worth, and the mark I'm leaving on the world as I live these bonus years I've been given.
@@temparalflux914 I actually disagree - it makes sense that after 1k years they’d be warp capable & since none of the people on Disco are from ENT it makes sense they wouldn’t necessarily know or care about the Akaali
That bit where Commander Rhys got a little moment of focus to talk about his backstory made me think they were going to pull an Ariam and kill him off.
Don't you ever apologize for getting personal in your reviews. I've already analyzed the episode by the time I get here. I come here for you and your perspective. Thank you for sharing yourself with us.
I had an emotional response to the Stamets storyline. I was “the smart one” all through school, and then went to an all-boys magnate high school, and suddenly, my identity as “the smart one” was no longer mine exclusively. I went from being Superman in middle school to becoming Superman ON Krypton in high school. Some people weren’t just smarter than me, some were downright dismissive. I could feel Stamets processing those same beats, dealing with Tarka.
I can feel that. Up to high school everything was easy, I was used to be the "brainy" one, then in the University I was just average. It is an experience...
The Janeway absolutely made my day 😀. I am a simple girl. The criticisms of the DMA arc ...valid. But if they intro what could be a new race? That could be interesting. Happy to see Tig back cause Reno is a fave. And Rhys comin outta nowhere with the hurricane backstory and Felix wanting to stay hit too close to home cause I've seen way too many friends ride out hurricanes cause that was their home. Loved hearing Zora having more of a role; reminds me of EDI in Mass Effect. And Culber speaks to the overachieving workaholic in all of us...me too. (Thoughts in brief between calls at work) LLAP Jessie
Yes I want to see Zora now. She has chosen the voice and a name. I hope they allow her to choose some type of form so she can interact with the crew. Maybe a hologram, Android, I'm open to suggestions.
While I really enjoyed this week's episode, I think your criticism of the arc elements is valid. DISCO's big plot arcs tend to be weaker than the sum of their parts - a common failing in modern TV, sadly - and while individual episodes can be enjoyable despite these flaws, rewatching stories can be less engaging if the final revelations are underwhelming. It's part of why I think DISCO's first series plot was probably the strongest as it didn't rely on big reveal moments to drive the drama elements.
I think people focus too much on the resolution of the mystery. The Disco writers are using Hitchock's McGuffin as the mystery element. But just like in classic TOS Trek, the resolution of the mystery is not really the point. But that doesn't make Citizen Kane any less fascinating to re-watch. It just reinforces the point that as in real life, the resolutions to life's mystery is not nearly as revelatory as the journey we take. Discovery is about how they get from A-Z. Because a life's meaning is best expressed by how we live not what we find at the end.
@@Stress-Free-K The issue that comes into this is that the mystery in Citizen Kane only takes up like 5% of the runtime, you could be forgiven for completely forgetting about it at points. In Disco, the big season-spanning mysteries tend to take up large portions of episodes, and those portions really aren't that interesting in their own right. I feel like Citizen Kane would be far less acclaimed if we spent 45 minutes of it with the reporter asking what Rosebud means and not making much progress, or at best making horizontal progress. Rosebud is just a hook to draw us in, once we're in it's almost entirely left alone until it can compliment and pay off the character drama.
@@Eon2641 I respectfully disagree. Here's a Google summary of Kane, "When a reporter is assigned to decipher newspaper magnate Charles Foster Kane's (Orson Welles) dying words, his investigation gradually reveals the fascinating portrait of a complex man ..." If you look closely, every encounter the reporter has is in pursuit of "Rosebud". And yet there still seems to be criticism that "Rosebud" is anti-climatic. Unlike giant Apollo's, huge floating space alien heads or old couples capable of destroying worlds over grief. I still find Sukal's holo-fantasm beautifully rendered, his portrayal heart-rendering and his words this season to still be incredibly compelling. When Saru departs Kaminar Su'kal tells him, "There will always be those who fear what they do not understand. But they are fewer now, thanks to you. I am safe. I am loved. I am happy." A more true and poignant prescription for happiness (especially for these trying times) simply can't be found.
@@Stress-Free-K Oh don't get me wrong, I like Sukal and his story, as well as the general story of the show. My problem is that the investigations themselves don't really add much, especially on subsequent watches. In citizen Kane we don't spend very much time with the reporter asking questions, that part doesn't overstay it's welcome and the bulk of the content is Kane's life. Certainly when I think back on the film, none of the images I call up are of the reporter except in his first and last scenes. I feel like Discovery's focus on the mystery does tend to overstay it's welcome and that comes at the expense of the character drama. A natural consequence of making the stakes of your mystery be the entire galaxy, maybe, but they don't actually have to keep doing that lol. Your mileage may vary, obviously, but that's just how I feel about it.
Loved seeing Michael Greyeyes this episode, I haven't seen him on screen since Fear the Walking Dead season 3! The DMA situation is working just fine for me. It feels like an unfolding story rather than like a mystery box of prior seasons, but I understand the criticism based on what we've seen in Disco before. I'm looking forward to the rest of the season and more excellent reviews.
I was so happy to see Jett Reno again! I think it was kind of fun to see the Akali species again (from Enterprise). The real world commentary seems so classic Trek. Alternative reading: maybe you being happier now is a gift from your younger you, your happiness is bought and paid for with your own pain and you don't owe us anything.
I understand what you are saying about the mystery box storyline. At the same time, I loved how they wrote the cause of the Burn. It was somewhat unexpected. Even with the DMA being an artificial phenomenon, I am anticipating a satisfying explanation. I was hoping it would be a natural phenomenon, but I am embracing this direction.
I...don't mind the anomaly. I'm actually happy it's not a natural phenomenon and instead it's some ding-dong wreaking havoc on the universe. But yeah, how I feel about it will also depend on the reveal of who's behind it. Personally, I'm hoping for a disgruntled Ferengi.
Naturally I immediately thought of the 'Conspiracy' neck bugs for Tarka's scar, because I invariably go for the dumbest but most obscure-continuity-driven answer to anything... I'm not that shook by the DMA being artificial since in the back of my mind I think I'd always assumed that (still getting big V'Ger vibes from it - not specifically, but that kind of thing). I'm a bit bothered by everyone assuming that, because it's artificial, therefore whoever built it intended for it to do the harm that it's doing - I'd still like to hope that the challenge isn't to 'defeat' this thing, but understand it, and its creator may be something that thinks differently to us and isn't acting according to the straightforward human-style motives the crew are assigning to them. Maybe that's where this is going? I kind of hope so - I wonder if Booker's arc is going to end up with him having to find some measure of forgiveness for whatever made the DMA, rather than just discovering their identity so he can hate them by name rather than anonymously. I really appreciated the last scene between Stamets and Culber - I've said the good old "I'm fine" lie, well, plenty of times, it was comforting to see it challenged, but in a gentle, supportive way, rather than just 'characters continue to make exactly the wrong choices, because that will cause maximum 'drama' when it all blows up in their faces'.
Did Jessie really mention the U.S.S Janeway but not that the ship it was talking to was the T'Pol? The thing on the back of the dude's neck made me think of the creepy crawly things from TNG's Conspiracy ep.
I can't help but say how helpful and emotional it was to hear you get vulnerable and honest with us, the audience, about the Culver storyline. It means a lot to hear my own life reflected back in the facets of another. You're a bright light to me, at least. I hope others feel this too.
I like the Risan approach to the Stamets-esque "insufferable genius" has a joi de vie (did I spell that right?) with the shouting and digging hands into food. Science as a sensual experience.
Could the mashed potatoes thing be a nod to Close Encounters of the Third Ki d when the protagonist was making a model of Devil Mountain with mashed potatoes? ( I read a novelization)
Ngl that last scene with Tarka felt like we changed universes into Star Wars or something. Tarka just felt like a Sith Lord trying to create a Darth Book with his “I know anger, it’s a productive emotion” line. PS Darth Tarka does sound like a real Star Wars character you know it’s true
I loved the USS Janeway name drop. I do like that the DMA isn't a natural occurrence, but I am worried about the discovery of who/what is behind it. I feel like with this kind of thing, nothing they can come up with will ever live up to this kind of situation. However, the last scene got me pumped and I don't even know if it's what I think it is. When they showed the back of what's his names neck, I got brought back in time to TNG's 1st season episode Conspiracy. Dear god if they make the DMA/etc an invasion or whatever from those aliens from whereever or whatever they were from, I'm gonna jump up and down like a schoolboy.
Culber's story line hit me like a ton of bricks too, and I think many of my colleagues in health care would feel it as well. Although the majority of us haven't been randomly resurrected, that feeling of burnout is so close to the surface.
much love Jessie I truly respect and care about you and how much you share of yourself with us you are truly a warrior so yea just wanted to say that in case no one has today.
Jessie is very, very brave. Thank you for appreciating her. I imagine most of us who regularly watch her do, but sometimes I know I take the quality videos and her kindness almost for granted. But such kindness and openness should be noted, appreciated, and complimented.
Was anyone else reminded of the body snatching crab aliens from season 1 of TNG when he rubbed the back of his neck? Like maybe they’re behind the anomaly? Must be me.
I enjoyed this episode very much. It reinforces everyone's growth, while still showing that they came so far but still need work. I'm also glad they let the gentleman choose his own fate. They seriously didn't have the right to decide for him , being respectful even when we don't understand or agree with someone's decision shows the not only the characters but the writers maturity. As and adult that is 💯 a struggle isn't it.
I appreciate that they respected his agency and let him choose his own fate, but I really find the whole "death = redemption" thing kind of frustrating. I like to think that in the future we'll move past such an antiquated, punitive idea of justice. His crime was terrible, but he was in a desperate situation at the time and was obviously capable of reform. It's just such a waste to a see a person destroyed in pursuit of penitence like that. I accept it was his choice, I guess I just take issue with the context.
@@Eon2641 yeah Star Trek as a whole has a fridging ( I think that's how you spell it) problem. I don't feel this is the case for this one, but it is still a heavy topic. It's rough, for me it's an equivalent to someone being in pain and wanting to die. Do you have the right to keep them alive because YOU want them to be there and you'll miss them. It's a huge topic with no real definitive answer. This has been a wonderful season.
@@michelleg2749 I'm definitely also enjoying this season. As someone who's struggled with both guilt and depression maybe this one hit a little close to home, but I can appreciate the perspective and while I may not be entirely happy with the conclusion, I do like how they addressed it with compassion.
Another strong episode but....I thought to myself "Oh no, here we go again," when it came to the anomaly. Other than that, the interactions between the crew and other characters was great! The ending has me interested as to how this will play out with the anomaly.
What discovery hammers out realy hard in the mental health department this season is the image of survivors guilt in Book, as well as the doctor. This nagging thought of "why am i alive, why did i survife and the others didn´t. In global pandamic, where countless families had losses.....just whanted to point that out again.
I also rolled my eyes about the (presumed) origin of the anomaly and thought "Not again". But then I had th thonk back to the flux which I recently watced and I thougt whatever. It won't be that big off a mess, right? I mean compared to the neck break pace that Dr Who Flux was going at, this is telling its story much more clear ant it takes it's time. I'll give them that. In the beginning of the experiment phase I felt reminded of the motion picture somehow and how this could be a similar origin but on a lager scale. Probably wouldn't have had this on my mind without the reminder in the Roddenberry video, thanks for that :D
As a recovering addict this episode Culber's subplot hit me too. I've met several addicts who survived the AIDS epidemic who struggle heavily with survivors guilt. The NA community still has traditions that came out of the epidemic, like hugging at the end of meetings because you never know if it's the last time you'll see them alive. So it definitely hit.
I feel I don't say this enough but thank you for all you do. You are wonderful. Thanks for letting me consistently leave my two sense here without judgement. 👍
600 years may mean that Picard lives to be 200 as he is almost 100 in the first season of picard and 100 years later would be 600 years before this episode. Its the 32nd century after all.
Before I post my comment, I just wanna say that I really enjoy your videos, recaps, and hearing your perspective. It feels like I'm listening to a friend talk about one of our favorite shows. Thank you for what you do 😄 But yeah, I like that with this season it is keeping with the season long story line while also having each episode have it's own meaningful side story lines that conclude by the end of the episode. I know that's something a lot of fans wanted. Personally, I love the season long mystery and blockbuster action. It's a refreshing change for Star Trek and it's what hooked me back into Star Trek after falling off for a while. But I do agree that I hope they conclude this mystery plot with something different and more interesting.
I completely agree about your reaction to the anomaly being artificial, I made an audible groan just like I did in S2 when they said the Red Angel was female and I instantly knew where it was going. A storyline where a growing contingent lead by Ruon Tarka falsely believe it to be man-made (while it's actually natural) due to its indiscriminate destruction from a faceless threat would be a genuine subversion of Discoveries tpyical storytelling and a much more potent analogue to the real world events.
About Tarka: I think he has a greater part to play from now on (hint: I wonder how far he'll go for revenge). I hope they keep this storyline going for a while. I wouldn't mind if they ended the season without resolving all those threads. And I like that they are treating scientific experimentation (mostly) right this season. Collecting data, building models to examine, and rethinking their hypothesis. No bulshitron particles bandied around and untested theories working just right the first try. I notice that to this day the Borg and the Dominion were referenced in this show. I doubt they were responsible for the DMA, but it'd be nice if they showed up in the suspect list.
You forgot the Metrons! Also, I think Vance said about 600 years which should put the last contact from the Q around the 26th century. So probably 100 or so years after Picard.
Thanks for sharing 🙏 Don’t apologies for it 😊 It is relieving to see true non-platonic emotions and topics. I agree with you on the mental health focus of Discovery and the depth of the characters. For once in a ST series there are always moments in almost every episode where their is deep reflections personal struggles and growth. I’m all in for that. So thanks for putting your own personal finger on it. 🙏
Maybe Saru was in the science bay because a planet eating anomaly seemed of greater urgency than an asteroid colony evacuation. The urgency of the evacuation took place in the transporter room and cargo bay while senior officers dealt with the risk to all of civilization.
I've noticed that ST:D is great at screaming 'URGENT' and then when entire planets or crews are in danger, it's time for Burnham to have a heart-to-heart. I know this is just how TV does 'urgent' now... Can't have tension without having a situationally inappropriate conversation that shell shock and PTSD will blank out anyway... But I'm glad I'm not the only one who is a bit ticked by the 'time dilation field' cast over whomever needs to crush a quick therapy sesh as the bridge explodes. Tig Notaro is back
I did like the chemistry between Stamets, Shawn Doyle’s character and Tig Notaro, Loved the scene between Kovics and Culber. I also appreciated that the A. Story was something out of the original series…. Your criticism of the mystery box (litter box) is pin point accurate. I don’t hate Discovery, but I’m sad that I don’t love it either.
Don't take this the wrong way but I feel so bad for you. Good luck in your struggle. For me disco is the best Star Trek Ever. Maybe strange new worlds will be a better fit. I'm looking forward to that too.
@@morpheus9589 I’m glad you love it. Really I do. I don’t hate it I’m ambivalent towards it. I really enjoyed Lower Decks and So far Prodigy has been a lot of fun.
I did dislike the anomaly reveal for another reason, with it exploring covid so much, it just feels wrong to have it be manmade with all those conspiracy theories about said covid.
I always appreciatie your épisode analyses and i always agree to your evaluation and critiques. On that note I still wish more to see from the non main bridge characters. Loved the scenes with Reno, Stamets and the arrogant scientist :)
Im Curious as to what will happen if they go on a mission and Zara got scared...hmm.! I might be mistaken but was that Prisoner that stayed on the Asteroid the same guy or actor that played the Traveler & Pretended a Marguee when Wesley defended them in TNG? His Voice sounded familiar.
I also eyerolled at the reveal of a potential villain behind the DMA, but the scene between Tarka and Book at the end gave me chills, I look forward to that subplot. I felt there was a missed opportunity with Felix on the discussion about what constitutes justice. He was dead-set on punishment being the only appropriate response for his crime, and I was disappointed neither Book nor Burnham took an opportunity to propose perhaps living to serve and make amends being an unselfish option. Perhaps the best part of Falcon and the Winter Soldier was Sam's advice to Bucky on how to absolve his guilt and I thought it was a concept that would have fit perfectly in Trek. Also I always get choked up seeing Culber and Stamets together, need a girl that looks at me the way they look at each other.
I haven’t yet gauged the room on opinions of this season, but for myself, I’m genuinely impressed. Literally except the very first scene of 4x1 and a couple Tilly jokes,, this season has been better, smoother, more balanced, the drama is better paced, and it feels like the new Star Trek series we’ve been waiting for, threading the needle of being Trek in spirit remembering where it comes from and advancing into new, worthy territory. Finally, the masterfully good aesthetic of new Trek is personifying classic Trek ethos without ambiguity. To wit, I’m happy with it.
I hope they will at least TRY to get Earth back into the Federation at some point. Now that Ni'Var (Vulcan) is back on board, they need to send a delegation to Earth.
I must have missed it. Cuz the Death Penalty question is in this episode was its most controversial call. I think it opens the door for Book to have a huge rift with Michael. This could easily lead to him taking his ship and piloting Ruon Tarak's proto-spore drive to take out the DMA.
I'm surprised Tarka final words weren't : "Glad to meet you Mr. Garibaldi" instead of "Glad to meet you Mr. Booker". I wonder if the writers weren't making some kind of reference to B5 there.... (Think about it the - Vorlons Doomsday device)
It is so funny that Culber accepts the same advice that Stamets from Kovich. :) Very similar to other family dynamics where you can't really take therapy advice from a family member, family has a different role.
The physics are all over the place in this season. A black hole-like anomaly of that size should affect the whole galaxy cluster, not just a single star system it passes by. Also, it should affect it only at the speed of light, so they should have like 4000 years to evacuate, not four hours. Given that this time frame ist just wildly made up, the question is why they put so much pressure onto the story in that number and then don't show the urgency at all? All of it is just incoherent. They could easily have given them a week or so, which would also make running the experiment in parallel more logical.
@@colporossogaming5055 Terrible writing pure and simple. Poor use of the "ticking clock" trope. This show has more producers than writers and is still the lowest-rated program on CBS.
@@colporossogaming5055 Gravitational waves have been proven to travel at the speed of light, so it doesn't make any sense that other star systems would be able to measure that immediately.
@@anlumo1 Sorry, you are right! So, taking this into consideration, even the effects of the singularity travel at light - causality speed. So, no, it should not effect the entire galaxy immediately like you said in your original comment.
As you mentioned eldrich horror I thought I'd jump in and say that I'm hoping that is more or less what this is. By that I mean that it isn't a weapon created by someone we know, but some race that doesn't even think about the damage it is doing. That makes it so that it's still more or less a natural disaster, but it makes it a bit more believable when they are able to solve it. That said, the name drops makes me think that it likely is someone or something we've seen before. Perhaps after 800 years the Pah-Raiths have escaped and are looking to create a new celestial temple for themselves.
Amazing review Jessie!!!! Everytime you take your heart out and tell us your story, you touch mine. As a gay guy I died and reborm a lot in my life and that's great 'cos all those experiences made us strong. Keep going sharing your life!!!! ❤️
Oh, you didn't speak about the 'other' scene at the end with Culbert & Stamets, when they are going to bed, is a nice arc to the scene in season one when they wash teeth together...
I had a theory that the DMA may have been created by sentient life. I had theorized that it maybe from a civilization long dead, like the beings that created the doomsday machine in TOS, Being a fan of Voyager, I remember species 8472, that wanted to destroy all life, and they were from fluidic space. That bar scene was very intriguing to me, Tarka and Book looked vaguely criminal. To me it’s a cross between an English who done it mystery, and American Noir, the darkness of the bar set the tone. As for the examples and the prison, it was tragic, and the pandemic showed us the flaw. I agree with your assessment. I am glad that the one prisoner felt remorse, but I’m not sure I like his choice, but I accept it. I would have done what Burnham did. Book didn’t like what either of them did, it’s a contentious issue. Stemitz and Tarka risking the ship during a rescue was too much for me, we’re about to get it, nope of course not. The acting was comic in places, with a boatload of personality. Im sorry I have a soft spot for Dr. Colber. He needs to take care of himself, and I’m glad Stamitz knows it.
I hoped Zora will soon have a holographic avatar, I couldn't tell from her voice if she's sad or not. Also, I hoped she has her own episode that connects season 4 and the episode "Calypso" from short treks.
That is a good idea. I would love to see Zora. even better it would be cool to see her walking around and interacting with the crew. That's what I love about Disco. It can take us so many new places the other Treks can't or haven't gone. Thanks for that!
I was a little disappointed that it wasn’t a natural phenomena but not really surprised they went in that direction, they do have a track record of doing that sort of thing. Zora’s evolution did trigger some memories about that Short Trek and whatever caused the crew to abandon ship, perhaps they’re considering connecting those storylines somehow? The mark on the back of Tarka’s neck reminded me of last season when Book was captured by the Emerald Chain and I kinda remember them having devices implanted in their necks to control them? My memory might be off on that one but it was the only thing that came to mind. Tarka himself is a bit annoying and the screaming match was pretty silly but having Reno back made those scenes still fun to watch. Liked Culber’s storyline, hope to see much more. The focus on mental health has been a welcome one for the series and I’m glad they continued it from last season.
What's the difference between WHO caused it, and WHAT caused it? It's still a mystery that needs to be solved. I can just do without the universe ending problems they're having to solve. It's getting old. It doesn't matter whether it's made by a person or it's natural.
With all the Enterprise love this season could it be the Sphere Builders making the anomaly? (Also NSS T'Pau!!!! That officer who said "What the hell?" had to be a Romulan lol)
Just here for support, hope it will be a good season. We are trying to catch up but we have far to many seasons to go and not enough time (with days starting at 05:00 for months now the evenings tend to be very short)
I'm betting on the idea that the borg were the ones who made the DMA. We already know that there are ex-borg from the Picard series, and those scars on Tarka's neck look like it could be from borg implants. We know that the DMA ruptures subspace, which is something I'm pretty sure the borg do often. Also we don't know how powerful the borg have gotten while the federation was still affected by the burn, so its very possible that by now they could easily power the DMA. (I'm relatively new to star trek so idk if I'm missing something lol)
Hey Jessie, i liked you review to this episode, i had some similar thoughts. I do keep missing the star ships, do you have an advice for a book with lots of pictures?
So happy to see Jett again, tho her personality seemed a little softened than before. I kinda felt this episode was more about character beats not so much the plot of the episode itself. Great bits, but didn’t add up to a whole, at least for this episode
I am glad you mentioned how you had an emotional response the the last scene you described. Mine was similar. I was diagnosed with HIV in 1984 in February. It is a day I will never forget. I watched almost everyone I cared about die really horrible deaths, and families that were sometimes ambivalent at best (I like to remind people of that in the struggle for LGBTQ rights) . I don't think people your age and younger fully realize the horror of that time and how if affected predominantly the gay male community, and how many of the people my age (I'm 57) were wiped out. I still to this day have an extreme sense of guilt at being alive. I struggle to find my purpose sometimes. While you might be a work-a-holic, I have a very hard time with close relationships for fear that they will also die...even decades later. As they were talking about it on the show I felt this all too common knot building in my chest of all that emotion trying to make its way back. We all make it just a little easier for others when we talk about it. On a much lighter note, Jessie... Have faith in the series arc, they don't always disappoint. You might be surprised.
I do remember those days with sadness, and empathy for the friends I lost during those days. I am so glad you are still here.
Let me 1st state that I am conservative - I can empathize and for what its worth - you have my prayers.
Oh my God.
Thank you so much for sharing this. I'm glad you're alive.
I'm so sorry for what you went through.
Hugs -- hear you and share the feelings Scott
I had an emotional response too it I was hatred. I was bored and I tried to stomach an episode but it's just too lowbrow for me. The reason soaps operas run in the daytime is because intelligence people are at work. Plus soap operas are so unbelievably easy to predict where the story is going. Star Trek used be about deductive reasoning and enlightened and intelligent writing. Now it's unwatchable and written by children.
One thing about Burnham saving the criminals is that she was once deemed a criminal herself, so saving them was also personal.
"deemed"? she WAS a criminal.
The Ni'Varian ship was called T'Pal !!!
The cool thing about going thru your Star Trek episode comment threads is how some folk bring up bits of trivia from across the Trek 'verse. Jessie leads, we follow. Yay!
Culber's story this season is completely my stepmom's story over the last year. The therapist hitting burnout because stretching themselves too thin helping others process global trauma is leading to them avoiding processing their own, creating a snowball effect that leads to self-sabotage and an inability to help the people they feel obligated to help.
Considering this is something that nearly tore my family apart this year, this is something that hit REALLY hard. I was a wreck after that scene with Kovich and had to pause for a bit to get collected again.
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I'm a therapist too, and I felt every piece of this storyline. I need a real vacation! 🙄
Not going to lie, whenever Tarka opened his mouth I thought he was going to suggest they bring the BMA to Jules Pierre Mao
"Why are you standing around talking???" Is something I yelled at the screen several times.
I didn't mind the non-urgent evacuation. When we were on the station, things were actively breaking. A rescue is always more urgent than an evacuation. Also, Vance ordered Saru to give the visiting scientists whatever he needed whipe Burnham was leading the evac. So I think the evac felt less urgent to give the screen time needed to develop that part of story further.
I get it. 18 years ago, I survived a cancer that kills 90-95% of the people who get it. The survivor's guilt has never really left me. I struggle with my own relevance, my own worth, and the mark I'm leaving on the world as I live these bonus years I've been given.
The alien of the week were the Ankaali-the prewarp planet Archer and crew disguised themselves to visit.
strange how they're just picked at random and no more depth.
@@temparalflux914 I actually disagree - it makes sense that after 1k years they’d be warp capable & since none of the people on Disco are from ENT it makes sense they wouldn’t necessarily know or care about the Akaali
@@MarcSGA they dont care about anything, its all super forced and fake.
Maybe the DMA is created by the space tartigrades to find Staments because they miss him.
That bit where Commander Rhys got a little moment of focus to talk about his backstory made me think they were going to pull an Ariam and kill him off.
Don't you ever apologize for getting personal in your reviews. I've already analyzed the episode by the time I get here. I come here for you and your perspective. Thank you for sharing yourself with us.
I had an emotional response to the Stamets storyline. I was “the smart one” all through school, and then went to an all-boys magnate high school, and suddenly, my identity as “the smart one” was no longer mine exclusively. I went from being Superman in middle school to becoming Superman ON Krypton in high school. Some people weren’t just smarter than me, some were downright dismissive. I could feel Stamets processing those same beats, dealing with Tarka.
I can feel that. Up to high school everything was easy, I was used to be the "brainy" one, then in the University I was just average. It is an experience...
@@Donnagata1409 same here. Hard to learn how to learn at the University.
The Janeway absolutely made my day 😀. I am a simple girl. The criticisms of the DMA arc ...valid. But if they intro what could be a new race? That could be interesting. Happy to see Tig back cause Reno is a fave. And Rhys comin outta nowhere with the hurricane backstory and Felix wanting to stay hit too close to home cause I've seen way too many friends ride out hurricanes cause that was their home. Loved hearing Zora having more of a role; reminds me of EDI in Mass Effect. And Culber speaks to the overachieving workaholic in all of us...me too. (Thoughts in brief between calls at work) LLAP Jessie
Yes I want to see Zora now. She has chosen the voice and a name. I hope they allow her to choose some type of form so she can interact with the crew. Maybe a hologram, Android, I'm open to suggestions.
While I really enjoyed this week's episode, I think your criticism of the arc elements is valid. DISCO's big plot arcs tend to be weaker than the sum of their parts - a common failing in modern TV, sadly - and while individual episodes can be enjoyable despite these flaws, rewatching stories can be less engaging if the final revelations are underwhelming. It's part of why I think DISCO's first series plot was probably the strongest as it didn't rely on big reveal moments to drive the drama elements.
I think people focus too much on the resolution of the mystery. The Disco writers are using Hitchock's McGuffin as the mystery element. But just like in classic TOS Trek, the resolution of the mystery is not really the point. But that doesn't make Citizen Kane any less fascinating to re-watch. It just reinforces the point that as in real life, the resolutions to life's mystery is not nearly as revelatory as the journey we take. Discovery is about how they get from A-Z. Because a life's meaning is best expressed by how we live not what we find at the end.
@@Stress-Free-K The issue that comes into this is that the mystery in Citizen Kane only takes up like 5% of the runtime, you could be forgiven for completely forgetting about it at points. In Disco, the big season-spanning mysteries tend to take up large portions of episodes, and those portions really aren't that interesting in their own right. I feel like Citizen Kane would be far less acclaimed if we spent 45 minutes of it with the reporter asking what Rosebud means and not making much progress, or at best making horizontal progress. Rosebud is just a hook to draw us in, once we're in it's almost entirely left alone until it can compliment and pay off the character drama.
@@Eon2641 I respectfully disagree. Here's a Google summary of Kane, "When a reporter is assigned to decipher newspaper magnate Charles Foster Kane's (Orson Welles) dying words, his investigation gradually reveals the fascinating portrait of a complex man ..." If you look closely, every encounter the reporter has is in pursuit of "Rosebud". And yet there still seems to be criticism that "Rosebud" is anti-climatic.
Unlike giant Apollo's, huge floating space alien heads or old couples capable of destroying worlds over grief. I still find Sukal's holo-fantasm beautifully rendered, his portrayal heart-rendering and his words this season to still be incredibly compelling. When Saru departs Kaminar Su'kal tells him, "There will always be those who fear what they do not understand. But they are fewer now, thanks to you. I am safe. I am loved. I am happy." A more true and poignant prescription for happiness (especially for these trying times) simply can't be found.
@@Stress-Free-K Oh don't get me wrong, I like Sukal and his story, as well as the general story of the show. My problem is that the investigations themselves don't really add much, especially on subsequent watches. In citizen Kane we don't spend very much time with the reporter asking questions, that part doesn't overstay it's welcome and the bulk of the content is Kane's life. Certainly when I think back on the film, none of the images I call up are of the reporter except in his first and last scenes. I feel like Discovery's focus on the mystery does tend to overstay it's welcome and that comes at the expense of the character drama. A natural consequence of making the stakes of your mystery be the entire galaxy, maybe, but they don't actually have to keep doing that lol. Your mileage may vary, obviously, but that's just how I feel about it.
To me, the worst fake urgency in this episode was the recreation of the dma . Literally no reason to not wait 90 minutes.
Loved seeing Michael Greyeyes this episode, I haven't seen him on screen since Fear the Walking Dead season 3! The DMA situation is working just fine for me. It feels like an unfolding story rather than like a mystery box of prior seasons, but I understand the criticism based on what we've seen in Disco before. I'm looking forward to the rest of the season and more excellent reviews.
I was so happy to see Jett Reno again! I think it was kind of fun to see the Akali species again (from Enterprise). The real world commentary seems so classic Trek.
Alternative reading: maybe you being happier now is a gift from your younger you, your happiness is bought and paid for with your own pain and you don't owe us anything.
I understand what you are saying about the mystery box storyline. At the same time, I loved how they wrote the cause of the Burn. It was somewhat unexpected. Even with the DMA being an artificial phenomenon, I am anticipating a satisfying explanation. I was hoping it would be a natural phenomenon, but I am embracing this direction.
“Hold a Grudge against Michael…” But she’s a queen!!!
i would be fine if book held a grudge against burnham as long as that grudge is his cat.
I...don't mind the anomaly. I'm actually happy it's not a natural phenomenon and instead it's some ding-dong wreaking havoc on the universe. But yeah, how I feel about it will also depend on the reveal of who's behind it. Personally, I'm hoping for a disgruntled Ferengi.
I’m hoping for a Sphere Builder
I'm hoping for the outrageous Okona. I mean he IS outrageous
Naturally I immediately thought of the 'Conspiracy' neck bugs for Tarka's scar, because I invariably go for the dumbest but most obscure-continuity-driven answer to anything... I'm not that shook by the DMA being artificial since in the back of my mind I think I'd always assumed that (still getting big V'Ger vibes from it - not specifically, but that kind of thing). I'm a bit bothered by everyone assuming that, because it's artificial, therefore whoever built it intended for it to do the harm that it's doing - I'd still like to hope that the challenge isn't to 'defeat' this thing, but understand it, and its creator may be something that thinks differently to us and isn't acting according to the straightforward human-style motives the crew are assigning to them. Maybe that's where this is going? I kind of hope so - I wonder if Booker's arc is going to end up with him having to find some measure of forgiveness for whatever made the DMA, rather than just discovering their identity so he can hate them by name rather than anonymously.
I really appreciated the last scene between Stamets and Culber - I've said the good old "I'm fine" lie, well, plenty of times, it was comforting to see it challenged, but in a gentle, supportive way, rather than just 'characters continue to make exactly the wrong choices, because that will cause maximum 'drama' when it all blows up in their faces'.
With you on the V'ger vibes. Glad I'm not the only one. "All this is V'ger"- a part of me is hoping it's not the case.
Did Jessie really mention the U.S.S Janeway but not that the ship it was talking to was the T'Pol?
The thing on the back of the dude's neck made me think of the creepy crawly things from TNG's Conspiracy ep.
I can't help but say how helpful and emotional it was to hear you get vulnerable and honest with us, the audience, about the Culver storyline. It means a lot to hear my own life reflected back in the facets of another. You're a bright light to me, at least. I hope others feel this too.
I like the Risan approach to the Stamets-esque "insufferable genius" has a joi de vie (did I spell that right?) with the shouting and digging hands into food. Science as a sensual experience.
Joie de vivre. 😉😉
Could the mashed potatoes thing be a nod to Close Encounters of the Third Ki d when the protagonist was making a model of Devil Mountain with mashed potatoes? ( I read a novelization)
I thought Reese was dead when he started talking about his childhood.
Saaaaaaame
Ngl that last scene with Tarka felt like we changed universes into Star Wars or something. Tarka just felt like a Sith Lord trying to create a Darth Book with his “I know anger, it’s a productive emotion” line. PS Darth Tarka does sound like a real Star Wars character you know it’s true
SPOILERS BELOW.
The scar on the back of the neck reminded me of the season 1 TNG episode conspiracy instantly. What we FOD’s refer to as nubbin bugs.
I loved the USS Janeway name drop. I do like that the DMA isn't a natural occurrence, but I am worried about the discovery of who/what is behind it. I feel like with this kind of thing, nothing they can come up with will ever live up to this kind of situation. However, the last scene got me pumped and I don't even know if it's what I think it is. When they showed the back of what's his names neck, I got brought back in time to TNG's 1st season episode Conspiracy. Dear god if they make the DMA/etc an invasion or whatever from those aliens from whereever or whatever they were from, I'm gonna jump up and down like a schoolboy.
Weren’t they in an ep of LD?
@@Dave102693 I have no idea, haven't seen any Lower Decks yet.
@@LordLOC you should. It’s pretty good.
Culber's story line hit me like a ton of bricks too, and I think many of my colleagues in health care would feel it as well. Although the majority of us haven't been randomly resurrected, that feeling of burnout is so close to the surface.
Russian my heart melts I slip into characters all the time....Autism rocks ✊💜
much love Jessie I truly respect and care about you and how much you share of yourself with us you are truly a warrior so yea just wanted to say that in case no one has today.
Jessie is very, very brave. Thank you for appreciating her. I imagine most of us who regularly watch her do, but sometimes I know I take the quality videos and her kindness almost for granted. But such kindness and openness should be noted, appreciated, and complimented.
Was anyone else reminded of the body snatching crab aliens from season 1 of TNG when he rubbed the back of his neck? Like maybe they’re behind the anomaly? Must be me.
Oh I was thinking that the moment I saw it.
I enjoyed this episode very much. It reinforces everyone's growth, while still showing that they came so far but still need work. I'm also glad they let the gentleman choose his own fate. They seriously didn't have the right to decide for him , being respectful even when we don't understand or agree with someone's decision shows the not only the characters but the writers maturity. As and adult that is 💯 a struggle isn't it.
I appreciate that they respected his agency and let him choose his own fate, but I really find the whole "death = redemption" thing kind of frustrating. I like to think that in the future we'll move past such an antiquated, punitive idea of justice. His crime was terrible, but he was in a desperate situation at the time and was obviously capable of reform. It's just such a waste to a see a person destroyed in pursuit of penitence like that. I accept it was his choice, I guess I just take issue with the context.
@@Eon2641 yeah Star Trek as a whole has a fridging ( I think that's how you spell it) problem. I don't feel this is the case for this one, but it is still a heavy topic. It's rough, for me it's an equivalent to someone being in pain and wanting to die. Do you have the right to keep them alive because YOU want them to be there and you'll miss them. It's a huge topic with no real definitive answer. This has been a wonderful season.
@@michelleg2749 I'm definitely also enjoying this season. As someone who's struggled with both guilt and depression maybe this one hit a little close to home, but I can appreciate the perspective and while I may not be entirely happy with the conclusion, I do like how they addressed it with compassion.
Love all the references.
Another strong episode but....I thought to myself "Oh no, here we go again," when it came to the anomaly.
Other than that, the interactions between the crew and other characters was great! The ending has me interested
as to how this will play out with the anomaly.
The computer nerd in me couldn't help but chuckle at 31st Century people trying to solve the mystery of the DMA controller.
The Akaali are from Star Trek Enterprise ep. Civilization
What discovery hammers out realy hard in the mental health department this season is the image of survivors guilt in Book, as well as the doctor. This nagging thought of "why am i alive, why did i survife and the others didn´t. In global pandamic, where countless families had losses.....just whanted to point that out again.
I don’t watch Discovery, but you asked for some love for you trek vids so here am. Thanks for doing all the hard vids. [hugs]
I also rolled my eyes about the (presumed) origin of the anomaly and thought "Not again".
But then I had th thonk back to the flux which I recently watced and I thougt whatever. It won't be that big off a mess, right? I mean compared to the neck break pace that Dr Who Flux was going at, this is telling its story much more clear ant it takes it's time. I'll give them that.
In the beginning of the experiment phase I felt reminded of the motion picture somehow and how this could be a similar origin but on a lager scale. Probably wouldn't have had this on my mind without the reminder in the Roddenberry video, thanks for that :D
This was a Very insightful video and finely articulated. Loved the Russian accent. 😀
As a recovering addict this episode Culber's subplot hit me too. I've met several addicts who survived the AIDS epidemic who struggle heavily with survivors guilt. The NA community still has traditions that came out of the epidemic, like hugging at the end of meetings because you never know if it's the last time you'll see them alive. So it definitely hit.
I feel I don't say this enough but thank you for all you do. You are wonderful. Thanks for letting me consistently leave my two sense here without judgement. 👍
Was that a Blue Gill scar at the end?
600 years may mean that Picard lives to be 200 as he is almost 100 in the first season of picard and 100 years later would be 600 years before this episode. Its the 32nd century after all.
Before I post my comment, I just wanna say that I really enjoy your videos, recaps, and hearing your perspective. It feels like I'm listening to a friend talk about one of our favorite shows. Thank you for what you do 😄
But yeah, I like that with this season it is keeping with the season long story line while also having each episode have it's own meaningful side story lines that conclude by the end of the episode. I know that's something a lot of fans wanted.
Personally, I love the season long mystery and blockbuster action. It's a refreshing change for Star Trek and it's what hooked me back into Star Trek after falling off for a while.
But I do agree that I hope they conclude this mystery plot with something different and more interesting.
I completely agree about your reaction to the anomaly being artificial, I made an audible groan just like I did in S2 when they said the Red Angel was female and I instantly knew where it was going. A storyline where a growing contingent lead by Ruon Tarka falsely believe it to be man-made (while it's actually natural) due to its indiscriminate destruction from a faceless threat would be a genuine subversion of Discoveries tpyical storytelling and a much more potent analogue to the real world events.
About Tarka: I think he has a greater part to play from now on (hint: I wonder how far he'll go for revenge). I hope they keep this storyline going for a while. I wouldn't mind if they ended the season without resolving all those threads.
And I like that they are treating scientific experimentation (mostly) right this season. Collecting data, building models to examine, and rethinking their hypothesis. No bulshitron particles bandied around and untested theories working just right the first try.
I notice that to this day the Borg and the Dominion were referenced in this show. I doubt they were responsible for the DMA, but it'd be nice if they showed up in the suspect list.
You forgot the Metrons! Also, I think Vance said about 600 years which should put the last contact from the Q around the 26th century. So probably 100 or so years after Picard.
Not surprising considering the Q loves Picard more than anything else.
Thanks for sharing 🙏 Don’t apologies for it 😊 It is relieving to see true non-platonic emotions and topics. I agree with you on the mental health focus of Discovery and the depth of the characters. For once in a ST series there are always moments in almost every episode where their is deep reflections personal struggles and growth. I’m all in for that.
So thanks for putting your own personal finger on it. 🙏
Was surprised not to see you dig the Enterprise reference in the Akaali
Maybe Saru was in the science bay because a planet eating anomaly seemed of greater urgency than an asteroid colony evacuation. The urgency of the evacuation took place in the transporter room and cargo bay while senior officers dealt with the risk to all of civilization.
20:49 I think this is a type of survivor guilt that I like to call "resurrection guilt".
I've noticed that ST:D is great at screaming 'URGENT' and then when entire planets or crews are in danger, it's time for Burnham to have a heart-to-heart. I know this is just how TV does 'urgent' now... Can't have tension without having a situationally inappropriate conversation that shell shock and PTSD will blank out anyway... But I'm glad I'm not the only one who is a bit ticked by the 'time dilation field' cast over whomever needs to crush a quick therapy sesh as the bridge explodes.
Tig Notaro is back
Thank you for sharing YOUR story. 🙏🏾
I did like the chemistry between Stamets, Shawn Doyle’s character and Tig Notaro,
Loved the scene between Kovics and Culber.
I also appreciated that the A. Story was something out of the original series….
Your criticism of the mystery box (litter box) is pin point accurate. I don’t hate Discovery, but I’m sad that I don’t love it either.
Don't take this the wrong way but I feel so bad for you. Good luck in your struggle. For me disco is the best Star Trek Ever. Maybe strange new worlds will be a better fit. I'm looking forward to that too.
@@morpheus9589 I’m glad you love it.
Really I do. I don’t hate it I’m ambivalent towards it. I really enjoyed Lower Decks and So far Prodigy has been a lot of fun.
@@davedahl4461 I think LD PDGY much better than Disc tbh.
I did dislike the anomaly reveal for another reason, with it exploring covid so much, it just feels wrong to have it be manmade with all those conspiracy theories about said covid.
This
Yup, hard agree.
Glad to see you're ok. ..and the enemy jumped, you cried, and it made you talk about this episode. All is slow logic.
The "scar" on the back of his neck reminded me of Burroughs's "Spare Assed Annie".
I always appreciatie your épisode analyses and i always agree to your evaluation and critiques. On that note I still wish more to see from the non main bridge characters. Loved the scenes with Reno, Stamets and the arrogant scientist :)
Im Curious as to what will happen if they go on a mission and Zara got scared...hmm.! I might be mistaken but was that Prisoner that stayed on the Asteroid the same guy or actor that played the Traveler & Pretended a Marguee when Wesley defended them in TNG? His Voice sounded familiar.
I also eyerolled at the reveal of a potential villain behind the DMA, but the scene between Tarka and Book at the end gave me chills, I look forward to that subplot.
I felt there was a missed opportunity with Felix on the discussion about what constitutes justice. He was dead-set on punishment being the only appropriate response for his crime, and I was disappointed neither Book nor Burnham took an opportunity to propose perhaps living to serve and make amends being an unselfish option. Perhaps the best part of Falcon and the Winter Soldier was Sam's advice to Bucky on how to absolve his guilt and I thought it was a concept that would have fit perfectly in Trek.
Also I always get choked up seeing Culber and Stamets together, need a girl that looks at me the way they look at each other.
"Book holds a Grudge against Burnham" 😂 Great review as always, Jessie 💕
I haven’t yet gauged the room on opinions of this season, but for myself, I’m genuinely impressed. Literally except the very first scene of 4x1 and a couple Tilly jokes,, this season has been better, smoother, more balanced, the drama is better paced, and it feels like the new Star Trek series we’ve been waiting for, threading the needle of being Trek in spirit remembering where it comes from and advancing into new, worthy territory. Finally, the masterfully good aesthetic of new Trek is personifying classic Trek ethos without ambiguity. To wit, I’m happy with it.
I hope they will at least TRY to get Earth back into the Federation at some point. Now that Ni'Var (Vulcan) is back on board, they need to send a delegation to Earth.
They would be nice tbh.
I felt the same about the pointless conversations in a crisis. I literally shouted at the screen along those lines.
It can be tough to weigh duty against compassion.....I want Burnham and Rilliak to have some kind of dialouge about this.
I must have missed it. Cuz the Death Penalty question is in this episode was its most controversial call. I think it opens the door for Book to have a huge rift with Michael. This could easily lead to him taking his ship and piloting Ruon Tarak's proto-spore drive to take out the DMA.
I like book but I would like to see them break up. It's not cool to have your spouse or significant other on the ship that you command.
"I don't know why I became Russian all of a sudden" Omg you're the BEST! Don't ever change! 🤣♥
I'm surprised Tarka final words weren't : "Glad to meet you Mr. Garibaldi" instead of "Glad to meet you Mr. Booker". I wonder if the writers weren't making some kind of reference to B5 there.... (Think about it the - Vorlons Doomsday device)
It is so funny that Culber accepts the same advice that Stamets from Kovich. :) Very similar to other family dynamics where you can't really take therapy advice from a family member, family has a different role.
The physics are all over the place in this season. A black hole-like anomaly of that size should affect the whole galaxy cluster, not just a single star system it passes by. Also, it should affect it only at the speed of light, so they should have like 4000 years to evacuate, not four hours. Given that this time frame ist just wildly made up, the question is why they put so much pressure onto the story in that number and then don't show the urgency at all? All of it is just incoherent. They could easily have given them a week or so, which would also make running the experiment in parallel more logical.
Isn't the anomaly creating gravitational waves trough the galaxy? If so, It actually is affecting the whole galaxy
@@colporossogaming5055 Terrible writing pure and simple. Poor use of the "ticking clock" trope. This show has more producers than writers and is still the lowest-rated program on CBS.
@@colporossogaming5055 Gravitational waves have been proven to travel at the speed of light, so it doesn't make any sense that other star systems would be able to measure that immediately.
@@anlumo1 Sorry, you are right!
So, taking this into consideration, even the effects of the singularity travel at light - causality speed. So, no, it should not effect the entire galaxy immediately like you said in your original comment.
As you mentioned eldrich horror I thought I'd jump in and say that I'm hoping that is more or less what this is. By that I mean that it isn't a weapon created by someone we know, but some race that doesn't even think about the damage it is doing. That makes it so that it's still more or less a natural disaster, but it makes it a bit more believable when they are able to solve it.
That said, the name drops makes me think that it likely is someone or something we've seen before. Perhaps after 800 years the Pah-Raiths have escaped and are looking to create a new celestial temple for themselves.
I’m thinking Sphere Builders imo.
Amazing review Jessie!!!! Everytime you take your heart out and tell us your story, you touch mine. As a gay guy I died and reborm a lot in my life and that's great 'cos all those experiences made us strong. Keep going sharing your life!!!! ❤️
Oh, you didn't speak about the 'other' scene at the end with Culbert & Stamets, when they are going to bed, is a nice arc to the scene in season one when they wash teeth together...
I had a theory that the DMA may have been created by sentient life. I had theorized that it maybe from a civilization long dead, like the beings that created the doomsday machine in TOS, Being a fan of Voyager, I remember species 8472, that wanted to destroy all life, and they were from fluidic space. That bar scene was very intriguing to me, Tarka and Book looked vaguely criminal. To me it’s a cross between an English who done it mystery, and American Noir, the darkness of the bar set the tone. As for the examples and the prison, it was tragic, and the pandemic showed us the flaw. I agree with your assessment. I am glad that the one prisoner felt remorse, but I’m not sure I like his choice, but I accept it. I would have done what Burnham did. Book didn’t like what either of them did, it’s a contentious issue. Stemitz and Tarka risking the ship during a rescue was too much for me, we’re about to get it, nope of course not. The acting was comic in places, with a boatload of personality. Im sorry I have a soft spot for Dr. Colber. He needs to take care of himself, and I’m glad Stamitz knows it.
I hoped Zora will soon have a holographic avatar, I couldn't tell from her voice if she's sad or not. Also, I hoped she has her own episode that connects season 4 and the episode "Calypso" from short treks.
That is a good idea. I would love to see Zora. even better it would be cool to see her walking around and interacting with the crew. That's what I love about Disco. It can take us so many new places the other Treks can't or haven't gone. Thanks for that!
Yes, Zora is slowly starting to come to life. I would like to see her take a form and interact with the crew in the real world.
I got TNG Conspiracy vibes from Tarka's scar
Yes me too! Either that or it's a crossover and he's a goa'uld! 😆
I was a little disappointed that it wasn’t a natural phenomena but not really surprised they went in that direction, they do have a track record of doing that sort of thing. Zora’s evolution did trigger some memories about that Short Trek and whatever caused the crew to abandon ship, perhaps they’re considering connecting those storylines somehow?
The mark on the back of Tarka’s neck reminded me of last season when Book was captured by the Emerald Chain and I kinda remember them having devices implanted in their necks to control them? My memory might be off on that one but it was the only thing that came to mind. Tarka himself is a bit annoying and the screaming match was pretty silly but having Reno back made those scenes still fun to watch.
Liked Culber’s storyline, hope to see much more. The focus on mental health has been a welcome one for the series and I’m glad they continued it from last season.
What's the difference between WHO caused it, and WHAT caused it? It's still a mystery that needs to be solved.
I can just do without the universe ending problems they're having to solve. It's getting old. It doesn't matter whether it's made by a person or it's natural.
With all the Enterprise love this season could it be the Sphere Builders making the anomaly? (Also NSS T'Pau!!!! That officer who said "What the hell?" had to be a Romulan lol)
That’s what I’m thinking too. They haven’t given up on making the greater expanse their new home subspace(?)
So excited
What happened to the Gamespot Universe? Just wondering.
Sadly the videos werent' doing well enough.
@@JessieGender1 that stinks. I am a little behind in watching, but thought you all were entertaining and knowledgeable. Sorry.
@@marshsundeen oh I loved doing it. But yeah, sadly Gamespot didn’t want to keep going with it for now.
I am groutt.....opps wrong movie.😁🖖
Peace and long life, jessie. Love ya.
Pretty heavy. Also, new science guy giving off a Frankenstein vibe.
Just here for support, hope it will be a good season. We are trying to catch up but we have far to many seasons to go and not enough time (with days starting at 05:00 for months now the evenings tend to be very short)
A star, you say? Possibly even a... protostar? 😱
(j/k)
I'm betting on the idea that the borg were the ones who made the DMA. We already know that there are ex-borg from the Picard series, and those scars on Tarka's neck look like it could be from borg implants. We know that the DMA ruptures subspace, which is something I'm pretty sure the borg do often. Also we don't know how powerful the borg have gotten while the federation was still affected by the burn, so its very possible that by now they could easily power the DMA. (I'm relatively new to star trek so idk if I'm missing something lol)
I follow noone, but I like jesse shes my trekkie even if we dont always agree
"I don't like the direction this anomaly is going." yeah, the Stamets agrees with you - heyoh!
Hey Jessie, i liked you review to this episode, i had some similar thoughts.
I do keep missing the star ships, do you have an advice for a book with lots of pictures?
Shawn Doyle & Michael Greyeyes (Tarka & Felix) were the best parts of this episode. They were awesome.
Ep 5 is not showing up on paramount
In my place paramount+ will not show up until some time next year. ^^
You got me...words mean something, thanks.
I love Jet so much. This show is full of great characters more than a normal Start Tell show, but Jet is my favorite.
So happy to see Jett again, tho her personality seemed a little softened than before. I kinda felt this episode was more about character beats not so much the plot of the episode itself. Great bits, but didn’t add up to a whole, at least for this episode