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Clear Gesso for Oil Pastel and Other Mediums? | surface comparison
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2021
- I was looking for a suitable surface for oil pastel artwork and stumbled across clear gesso as a primer. Its gritty texture makes it really interesting especially for hard oil pastels. Since I was on it, I also tested the surface for oil-color dry brushing, color pencil (Faber Castell Polychromos), and PanPastel.
I used clear gesso by Liquitex, different papers and my two student-grade oil pastel sets (Jaxon and Royal Talens Van Gogh).
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You can use sandpaper after the Gesso dries, to smooth the surface as much as you like! If you want texture to for pastels etc, then a the brush type and the technique when using it, will determine the tooth grit. As I said, you can always smooth it out, as much as you like!
For smooth surfaces for drawing with pencils, colored pencils, I Suggest Finnabair Art Basics Clear Gesso, or Winsor And Newton Clear Gesso. If applied properly, you might not even need to smooth it out at all!, except if you want a very smooth surface ,to use pens on it!!
Thank you for your helpful suggestions! It's always good to have options. I don't really need to use clear gesso for my usual combinations of art media, but who knows... :) A smooth surface might be helpful for some project at some point. :)
@@oilonpaper I made this comment especially for people who're using Polychromos. The first thing they ask, is what paper works with Polychromos, because they realize, it's a hard and slow medium but of super quality, so they always search for a paper that can work. Clear Gesso is the answer! It takes any drawing paper, to a new level, where the medium from slow to apply, becomes super fast, the smudging to create effects depth etc, is way easier and looks better, and the COLORS, Look so much better!! (That's another issue with Polychromos,that the clear Gesso, fixes, the colors where a bit duller, because of the hard lead.).It can make drawings, look ,lively like Oil paints on Canvas!!
PS 1000 grit sandpaper, is another choice, that will work for those who need even more detail. For Landscapes though, Clear gesso is the answer!
Thank you so much! I'll definitely try that out with my Polychromos!
I'm not an oil pastel user (yet - there's still time!) but saw the title about❤🖌 clear gesso which is new to me. Thank you for reviewing the process. best wishes Paul
Hi Paul! Unfortunately, I (still) haven't tested out clear gesso as a surface for acrylic or oil painting, so I don't know if this would be a good use for it. Compared to "normal" white gesso, of course the transparency could be interesting, but the gritty sand-paper-like surface is probably not something you look for ...? Maybe for some interesting dry-brush effects in an oil painting??
Well, at least now we know there's more difference between the gessoes than just the color. :)
@@oilonpaper I've been painting oil on paper for a while now and think a slightly rougher surface would suit my style. I'll let you know how I get on.
@@PaulRansonArt Great! :)
@@oilonpaper I've heard that clear gesso is good for priming wood, if you want to paint decoratively on wood and still have parts of the timber showing through. I think this could be a really interesting way to use it.
I've also used it in a colouring book with really thin pages, so that I can use paint, without the gesso obscuring the lines or destroying the pages.
Hi! I’ve been toying with the idea of using clear gesso on top of oil pastel to seal it and possibly add other layers. What do you think? Have you tried this?
No, I haven't tried this. I'm not sure if it'll stick well on the oily surface? I do think that there are oil pastel sealants out there, not sure if they are meant as a surface for additional layers though. I hope you'll find a solution that works for you!
great overview ty so much
You're welcome!
I use the Art Basics Clear Gesso and it's not gritty. This might very brand to brand. I use a lot of things for my mixed media work so this is a big plus when it comes time to use softer media like Neocolor II and softer colored pencils.
Thanks for the info!
I believe people sand down the gesso after applying and letting it dry to avoid the “black dot” effect you didn’t like.
Just checked, the Mungyo sets are as small as 12 or you want to try out just a few.
I posted a comment and now I can’t see it. Hmm. Anyway, if you can spend a bit more, a really good mid-range set is Mungyo Gallery Artists soft oil pastels in sets of 48 and 72. They come in a black cardboard box or the 72 can come in a wooden one. They’re mostly only on eBay and Amazon. I found Pentel were okay, but really crumby, and Pastelmat grabs the pastel so well, as you said, that you can’t blend it cos it won’t move.
Hm, I got a notification for your original comment, but when I click on it, it's not there anymore...
Yes! The Mungyo soft oil pastels have been on my wish list for a while now. I'm really curious to see what a softer range of oil pastel lets you do. Thanks for the tip! I'm on it! ;)
Funnily enough with pastelmat I found that when you add color pencil on top of a panpastel layer, you can blend out the color pencil pretty easily. It's a fascinating surface to work on... :)
@@oilonpaper oh, that’s interesting, I hadn’t thought to try it before.
I prefer the micador oil pastels over Mungyo, but I'm no expert. The colours are brighter. They also do a set of really thin ones, that sadly break too easily, but it has a really rich burgandy colour I love. Maybe the Mungyo gallery colours would pop more on clear gesso, but overall I found the colours more transparent and the 48 set has too many pale colours, pinks, mauves & greys.
Thicker paper 3oo g and sand gesso.😊
Thanks!
Definitely should use English translation for this video😂
As someone who speaks perfect English, WTF are you talking about? Why am I arguing with someone who uses emojis instead of punctuation? Enough said. 😆
If you watched any of the videos by the more experienced artists using clear gesso like this is specifically for soft pastels. It's not meant for most of the tools you used. Maybe learn more before making videos about things you don't know enough about?
I get your point, sorry to have wasted your time. But if you knew that it would be futile (the thumbnail was pretty obvious), why click on the video in the first place?
Experimentation and exploration are essential aspects of artistic growth. Every artist has their own journey and discoveries to make. I appreciate artists SHARING their experiments and EXPERIENCES. I believe there's value in exploring beyond conventional uses. Let's continue to encourage each other's creativity rather than criticize.
omg are you alone?
There are ways to provide helpful feedback of this nature. You could easily have said "Some other videos about this topic are done by so-and-so and might be helpful to folks, too." That way you come across as someone who genuinely wants to add something useful to the conversation rather than just another person who likes to look around finding things to be negative about. If you are used to being negatively critical when share your thoughts, it would probably take some practice to do so in a more positive way, I suspect. It's definitely a better headspace to be in than a negative one.