Swift Springs for my BC Racing Coilovers!
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- Опубликовано: 15 май 2021
- No, it's not currently snowing here in Kansas City, I'm just very late uploading this video, thank you for your patience.
I'm so happy to finally have these springs. I felt like I had to make excuses for how terrible the ride in my car was before, but now the suspension feels properly tuned. I can't wait to get this car out to a track and see what it's capable of. 
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finally a video of driving before swift springs installation and after installation. I really wanted to see what non-swift springs vs with swift springs on coilovers. Took me forever to find a video like this, I'm definitely going to get the swift springs with bc coils now.
🙌🏻 Glad to be of service. It really was unreasonably harsh. But I also went down in spring rate which helped make the ride softer. Still loving them.
@@collinryser do you think you’d go lower on the spring rate or are you happy with what you’re set at?
Definitely not lower, the 5-4 combo is perfect for what I use the car for
@@collinryser sweet, thanks!
Excellent video man! Love how simply and well you explain what you're doing. All the camera angles you use add so much to it. Great work man, stoked to see you back at it!!
Thank you! I hope to eventually upload often enough that I'm never really "back" 😂 three month intervals is too long.
The excitement flowing through this video is phenomenal 🙌🏾 killed it Cs!!
Always 🙌🏻
Happy to know you have pretty springs! 😁
They are so pretty 😍
I absolutely agree 100%. The swift springs are an absolute must; its actually much Softer than Stock, AND YET, its control/handling/confidence is unbelievably unparalleled. I have a 2019 Camry, and now I want to put these Coilovers w/ Swift Springs on all my cars, it is an absolute must upgrade like proper Tires for dedicated Seasons.
I have a 19’ Camry se with stock springs but Im ordering whole new suspension and think I might get the swift springs
The swift spring is shorter right? So would you have to order the extreme low coilovers to use the Swifts? Or can u just use regular bc coilovers with swift?
@damnitdang The swift springs are not inherently shorter, you can buy them in varying lengths. The BC coilovers can accommodate a variety of spring lengths because they have independently adjustable perches for both spring preload and ride height settings.
It would have been a better comparison if you were using the same rate springs. Yes, it’s definitely going to ride better due to less rate in the spring. I understand BC saying it would be to soft because they would have Valved the coilovers for a softer spring.
I agree, and I would have loved to do that, but money and time were the big deciding factors there and I just couldn’t justify the extra expense of another set of springs that I wasn’t going to use just for another video.
But hey, if I ever make it big time, who knows maybe I’ll just fiddle with my suspension setups all day and make money by making videos about it 😄
If you have adjustable coilovers, you don't need that spring compressor anymore. Just loosen the spring adjustment lock collar and release the preload. Then remove the top bolt.
Yeah, this was a while ago when I was working at a dealership and learning aftermarket stuff on my own time. Have a look at some of my more recent videos too, I have a coilover install from last year on my current track car.
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I'm just finishing the video. I agree on the lower spring rate on the rear. Most people are running 8kgf/mm for my car (370Z). But I ran the numbers, it's really supposed to be 5-6kgf/mm. Then fix body lean with antiroll bars. I'll be running 750lb/in(13.4kgf/mm) F and 275lb/in(4.92kgf/mm) R. The car has a nasty 0.65 motion ratio on the front. I was always wondering how people are running 18kgf/mm and still be fine. 😬
@@MyFaux The spring rates I chose are too soft. Very comfortable, but too soft. I plan to go to a 6k or 7k square setup when I get back to working on this car again. The handling is not controlled and the rear bottoms out at a reasonable ride height.
Great video bro. I'll likely get swifts now ;)
Glad to hear. You won’t be disappointed. They’re so good.
Love the video!
Thank you!
My r56 use 2k springs from honda in front and rear with Bilstein b6 for very comfortable ride.
Hey bro in your honest opinion should I put kw v3 on my b7 rs4 or Bc with swift springs? kw are 1500 more ?
Nice video! For some reason, there is a blinding amount of misinformation out there about coilover adjustment. My guess is that they were set up wrong in the first place with the stiffer spring and you were likely just slamming into the bump stops. There’s a lot to be said for setting bump travel correctly and then dealing with ride height adjustment. Either way, glad its better for you! Also, great explanation of the f:r roll stiffness. The fwd cars love some stiffy boys in the rear 😂
You are 👌🏻 spot on, my friend
You should have them revalved when swapping springrates
My suggestion to you my friend is to dump running run flats tires on your Mini, run flats don’t handle as well as regular tires.
Runflats are much better than they used to be and they have their place, but yes I do prefer non runflats.
Great vid bro. I was actually buying a new set of coilovers and I saw that option so I was like, ok let's find out what's that about!
They’re so great. What coils did you get?
@@collinryser fortune auto 500 w/ swift springs
Nice, I’ve installed some FAs before. They make good stuff.
@@collinryser I have the Stance Super Sports and the bounce like crazy 😩. I think they're the track ones becu they're extremely stiff. Hopefully I get better luck with this new ones
@@collinryser I was gonna go with bc but fitment industry told this FA are a little more comfortable when street riding so that's why I went with this! So we'll see
Wow they held up well
3 weeks in Malibu rust starts
Would getting swift springs at the same rate or higher make any difference? The standard BC springs for my car are set to 6kg F and 4kg R and the swift springs both start at 5kg only difference is the rear is 1kg stiffer and i could achieve that with just placing a custom order and not paying extra.
My experience is that the swift springs feel softer to ride on than an equivalent stock BC spring, so it should not be any problem to bump them both up a bit. Do some research about your specific car and see what people have done.
So I got some swift springs on my coilovers but don’t know what to preload them at they say 140 on them any suggestions to preloading them they are going on a genesis sedan for the fronts appreciate any help
Usually you can get away with using just enough preload to keep the spring snug between the mounting perches, but there are instances like in the case of the rear of my car where I put softer springs in than came standard where I had to add more preload to prevent the rear shocks from bottoming out. I’d say look through some forums for people who have maybe done the same or similar setups on the same car you have and see what they’ve had to do, that should get you pretty close.
Did you have the valving changed? im pretty sure it needs a revalve with diffrent springs
I haven’t, though I’ve thought about it. My other cars have been a bigger priority recently.
Hi Colin, great video. Can you tell us which springs you used or the spring height as I'm trying to switch over to swift springs on an R53 as well.
I had to look it up but the springs are 178mm front and rear.
@@collinryser Thanks Colin that really helps. One of my B14 front springs keeps sagging so I'm going to swap over to Swift. Thanks for making this video.
Thanks for watching, I appreciate it 🤙🏻
Man this is a great video I wanted to get Swift strings installed on my 2021 Acura TLX Type s but I wanted to keep the same ride I didn't want it to be firm I just wanted to be lowered but with the same ride which ones do you guys suggest, or should I flat out just get coilovers instead of springs
If your only goal is lowering, the best route to go for cost is probably just springs.
@@collinryser Yes just lowering but didn't want the ride to change at all. Thx for response I will go with swift springs
@@djsthemetereman if you lower it the ride is gonna change, there's really no avoiding that
There's this really cool thing called pumping your breaks, you should practice that. I loved the video though, thanks
Ideally, threshold braking would have been my savior at this point, but given the circumstances I had never driven this car without functioning ABS before or practiced for it. But we live and we learn. Those tires are gone now.
10:28 ok there are 3 “nuts” on that bc damper core, two are holding up the spring, and one is at the bottom…. why do you not a) wind the third nut up and make it help hold up the spring or b) remove it and save unsprung weight ?
The three collars serve different purposes. The bottom collar locks to the lower mounting cup which rotates and serves as the ride height adjustment method. The upper two collars are for adjusting spring preload, and flexibility of installing longer/shorter springs.
In terms of weight savings, those collars weigh probably a few ounces each. Pretty sure they’re aluminum. I’ll save a number of pounds here and there when I can but I’m also using this car in a class that is power to weight based, so I can’t make it too light.
What does ride height have to do with preload. These are two seperate settings
The preload does affect ride height to a certain extent, although it of course is not the way to do it. The problem here was the shock was bottoming out on the bump stop, so I added some preload which raised the car but stopped the bottoming out problem. Then I set the bottom perch for the ride height where I wanted it.
I just ordered a set of swifties for my BR set up. I just have to wait 6-8 weeks they on back order. My original springs started to chip paint and ride quality is terrible I can’t go on highway more then 70 I’m scared, im all over the road bouncing. Not funny. Forget about drinking coffee while driving.
Yikes, do you think maybe it needs some new shocks too? 😳😬
Do you feel that these “swift springs” hinder any racing performance from the vehicle eg being at track days ect. Anybody get any before & after lap times. I’m just wondering if these could also be appropriate in racing environments or if these swift springs are just intended to be used as a luxury street comfort option. I may just reach out to the company here my self and ask them
Personally but it’s always good to hear opinions from more than one source if I cAn help it
Since this car isn’t one that I track I can’t say for sure. The biggest difference I noticed was ride comfort. But I know that they’re widely regarded as one of the go-to spring brands in racing/drifting, wherever. I don’t see any reason they’d be a downgrade of any sort.
Generally you want a mini to be a little bit less stiff for track than you might expect
Great video I have a 370z and I have the BC racing coilovers too without swift springs and the ride is fucking brutal on the softest setting too. it's a daily and rides soooo hard and too violent for the roads and I hate driving the car. I regret not getting the Swift's . Did you have to contact BC racing to buy the Swift's from them to do a upgrade or can you just buy the Swift's from any place that sells them for your car?
I bought them from BC. They can tell you exactly which springs fit your setup. I will say even since I’ve posted that video, I’ve fiddled with the damper settings more and just getting the front to back balance right made another world of difference. For my car, setting them identical front and back was a little bouncy, but setting the rears slightly stiffer than the front finished it off. The ride control is perfect.
@@collinryser oh ok thanks . You also mentioned when the car was low and you raised the ride height after the swift install the car finally then felt softer which I hope not cause I like how low my car is and wouldn't want to raise it. I'm torn now to try to get the Swift's to really soften the ride as much as humanly possible or totally just get springs and shocks and get rid of the coilovers .
@@Walter370z Oh right, so what happened there was that the shock was bottoming out on the bump stop. I should have followed up on that because essentially I ended up moving both perches to effectively lower the shock body but maintain the same ride height.
@@collinryser oh ok thank you for all the great info man! much appreciated
Of course. If you make any sort of video out of yours post a link here 👇🏻
Are your dampers set on the harder or softer side of the coilovers?
I have them set at 20/30 right now. I had to have them set all the way soft before to be comfortable but these new springs are 👌🏻
@@collinryser I just got them and the comfort and ride quality of the Swifts are a night and day difference. And my dampers are at full soft.
Good! I’m glad you like them. I personally played around a lot with my damper settings to find what I like. There are some aspects of the ride that are plenty comfortable with the swifts even with stiffer damper settings.
I dont understand how raising the car fixed the problem. Spring pre-load is not affected by the ride height, it is a separate setting on the BC.
The car was only being raised because I was adding in spring preload to stop it from hitting the bump stop which I hadn’t realized it was doing before. You’re right, they do have separate preload and heigh adjustments, I just didn’t explain where the extra ride height was coming from thoroughly enough in the video.
What’s up with your headliner?
Just needs to be redone. Trying to get all of the mechanicals in good shape before I tackle the cosmetics.
Coming down, as do the spring rates… probably out of sympathy 😂😂
Seems like you had it setup wrong the first time with the original bc springs.
Indeed, I did. I realized that after I had put up the video. Aside from the bottoming out problem though, the Swift springs do ride better.
@@collinryser thanks for this video. I am going with swift springs.
@@Playboyer670 You will not be disappointed 🤙🏻
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I will let him know
The shocks likely bottomed out at the correct preload, because they were far softer than the manufacturer deemed necessary for the application.
Watching you drive with a manual gearbox is real cringe in how you ram the box and don't know what gear you should be in much of the time, demonstrating zero mechanical sympathy and that you were never taught properly how to use the gears.
If you were on the dragstrip it may be forgivable, but you where just tootling around town.
Yikes 😂 There’s definitely not enough information in this video for you to be able to determine that I don’t know how to drive. I don’t think we’re gonna agree on that subject. Maybe you could watch some of my newer content and see if you think I did any better? This one is pretty old. And if you still think I have “zero mechanical sympathy” and you find my content “cringy”, then you don’t have to watch it!
@@collinryser There is plenty, but as I've already alluded to, you don't know what you are looking for.