Bad decision but not as bad you think. He called coverage the play before and Carr missed an open receiver in the endzone. There was time left for 2 plays unless there was a sack which would’ve ended the game. (Almost happened) But yeah isolating a UDFA against a burner at the end of a game is a mistake. After they win a couple SBs with Trevor the Jets may build a Gregg Williams statue.
Makes me lose respect for the Saints organization, Greg Williams more so, but like every other bullshit case, Rodger Goodell shows how much he’s sucks as the commissioner.
Really? Are u against it? if I had a coach that did that then I’d probably petition to get him fired and quit and get other people to quit to a point where they don’t have enough players to play a football game until they fired that coach
@@edward6749 them big macs were only for when you really busted a guy down. I live in the rust belt so pretty much all contact sports are big deal and I'm sure that's exacerbated by the fact that riddell employs a large number of people in community.
@@rustyrnds Nah. NFL takes player safety more serious than ever now I've seen some of the hits Favre took in the championship game and the dudes would now be ejected for that stuff and fined big time money
@@Atricks861 rewatch that NFC championship game vs the Vikings. They tried everything to injure Farve and its so obvious. When i watched as the game happened back then. My friends and I kept saying it looked like the Saints were literally trying to cheap shot Farve out of the game.
@@nickl1768 Seems like your Saints fan that’s mad that you’re getting accused of stuff that you did Favre was injured because the Saints did everything in your power to hurt every single person on the Vikings team the saints would not of won the Super Bowl if you played fairly so I think you’re seeing s**t and that maybe you should pay attention a little bit more and all those people that don’t play fairly can go to hell
Because they're big time rivals. Also, Hines Ward is a somewhat violent person. He was shit talking the Ravens sideline. Wanting to knock his shit out, is something natural between rivals.
Shouldn’t be surprising at all. The Steelers deflated balls against the giants shortly after deflategate and not a single word came from the NFL brass lol
@Elite Soulfly exactly the had proof. The only proof they had to condemn the Saints was heresay from an alcoholic, unprofessional former employee that was fired and a soundbite of Greg Williams telling the homies to merk Frank Gore.
That's, been around way before you claim the Saints did it, but because it was the Saints you make a big deal about. It's still around it's not going anywhere.
Been waiting on this one! pat mcafee and mikerphone combined are better sports news content producers than the mainstream sports media by far. Authenticity is refreshing.
@@poppaluv get ready to see more ”pi” ”miracles” ”push-offs” that will take your shitty franchise relocated to a better city that doesn't get horrible hurricanes
@@poppaluv I'm a bucs fan lol nice assumption becuz we literally owned the nfc south since it was born 🤣 we sit down and laugh at 15-1 failures, 28-3 failures, and 3 consecutive playoff chokers
Sean Payton: I take full responsibility for everything that happened -League suspends Payton for a year- Sean Payton: This is bullshit! How are they gonna do this to me?
Brett Favre ankle was broken, not just injured for a short amount of time. His ankle is still broken the next year when he tried to play and couldn't do it with an injury diminished team around him. If he hadn't decided to retire he could have come back the following year, but like most major injuries he was going to need a year-and-a-half that he didn't have any longer in his career to come back from that ankle surgery. Disgusting. Not to mention what they did to Kurt Warner when they ended his career on a hit the game before..
@@ZynPapi1 dude I'm a saints fan and I agree I hate that this happened but the no call should never have happened. But I will say we still choked that year after we threw the pick on o.t. but they should have called the pi. But still I hate Greg William's for doing that in 2009.
@@IWantToMature85 umm. Refresh my memory on the Steelers. Sorry I have a bad memory. But okay believing karma should decide games is retarded. If a call should have been made. And it would decide the game on who won. I want the right call. I hate when the two teams I like ( Saints as my hometown team, and Broncos cause I liked them as a kid.) And they win on a bailout penalty, I dont like it. But again karma shouldn't decide a game or be happy when someone loses after they did something bad. Many people didnt say Brady deserved to lose after deflate gate. Like I didnt want him to lose on a stupid no call. I wanted him to lose legitimately. So saying that's what they get is retarded
How tf did “underinflated” footballs in a 45-7 blowout get a larger fine from the league than a system literally built to intentionally injure players?
As a packers fan I feel y’all since we choke every year in the NFC championship, winning the super bowl would’ve been a wonderful way for Brett Favre to go out
Vikings were in on it www.google.com/amp/s/vikingswire.usatoday.com/2016/10/26/turns-out-the-vikings-also-had-a-bounty-program-when-brett-favre-was-qb/amp/
@@Allopientubefish2 I think honestly like every defensive coordinator has probably thought about something LIKE a bounty program before, whether they actually implemented it or not is the difference. If you are a defensive coordinator or defensive head coach or whatever, you are in a leadership position. One of the most effective leadership strategies is incentivization. This is why like, commission is so powerful in sales groups because it introduces a competitive element to everything that encourages people to DO more because they know they will GET more. That being said, in this context they were offering people like tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of dollars to not just injure people, but like... potentially ruin their careers altogether. It's inherently evil. BUT like I said, I seriously doubt they were the only ones doing it. The NFL and football itself are incredibly dangerous career choices. Nobody disputes this. It's basically like chess with humans, it's just that especially nowadays we aren't really supposed to like seeing the pieces fall. BUT the strategic advantage of either being injured or faking injury in the context of such a game cannot be underestimated. I think the fact of the matter is that selective injury may be part of the strategy of football, whether people like to admit that or not. It's just the Saints not only took it a little farther by giving under the table financial incentives, they did it and they got caught. I think a lot of teams quietly shelved their own bounty programs or similar in the aftermath of that and crossed their fingers they wouldn't get caught, too.
Knowing plays and wanting to take a shot at the QB to take them out are two different things. I know the Eagles had Smash for Cash, similar to what the Saints had
Yes, I remember but OBJ is kinda known to make excuses if he doesn’t have a big game. Maybe that’s why the NFL didn’t take what he said seriously. Althgh, i cant see OBJ making up something like that.
This sorta stuff sucks, but to think it only happens in the saints organization is crazy. Glad you pointed that out, but not surprised. Another great video man!! Keep it up!!
You gotta remember, these saints are a completely different team. They are an amazing team. I can’t say the same for the other guys though. But just remember that.
Cheating by taking out other players because they were not good enough to win otherwise , dose not make them amazing . They haven't been back since they got busted !
@@44xxggaaj none of the players from the defense ten years ago are still on this team. I am talking about the present day saints. I think what the 2010 saints defense did was horrible
@@44xxggaaj the 2009 Saints team was the best team in the NFL the whole season. They had the #1 seed in the NFC locked up, rested players for the last few weeks, had an amazing offense, and a defense that forced a tremendous amount of turnovers. The bounty scandal was complete nonsense made up by Roger Goodell and no evidence was ever provided by Goodell or the NFL. It's an overblown false narrative and a joke. The 2009 Saints team was amazing and the best in the NFL. During the "bounty" years they were well below the league average in injuries caused. Its just utterly false that they were turned into some demonized team that was considered to have caused injuries week in and week out.
I didnt realize how much hot water the NFL found themselves in during 2012-13. The Referee Lockout, Junior Seau's suicide (which led to more talks on CTE), the Bountygate scandal, the Ray Rice situation, the Adrian Peterson situation, Aaron Hernandez charged with murder, Dolphins bullying scandal, my goodness...
Fact Favre came from the 90s and was built different than any QB in league history (true Iron Man even at age 40), was why he finished that game. Dude at 40 probably had the body of a 65 year old given what he went through his entire career of punishments and injuries and still never missing a game. Took BountyGate to start the retirement process for Favre. Fact he retired at 42 was a miracle
At this point from the things Greg said he isn’t just someone playing dirty in football and a terrible person he is also a man who needs mental help cause the things he said in that audio sounded very seductive and evil
Think that's psychotic? listen to interviews of hardnosed tackles and linebackers from the United Football League, Global Football League, and 60s-70s football . Short famous clips: Csonka: so I fienged a duck and drove my shoulders upwards, fist and shoulders up and the beautiful sound of his head snapping back... I was going to get him for what he did to me and my team mate" (only full back to get a 2,000 dollar fine, and a 15 yard penalty for playing to hard)
Being from New Orleans (an extremely corrupt city) and knowing about the dark side of sports ...this was not surprising at all when it all went down..I'm sure many teams were doing this type of under handed locker room incentivizing. Enjoying watching the older Mikerophone videos and seeing the production differences, watched the Deflate Gate one on this channel last night. I guess every team has their cross to bear at some point lol.
Every team has or has had a bounty system of sorts most likely. But none of them even begin to compare to the size, sustainability, longevity, cruelty, and sheer evil of Bountygate.
As much as I loved a lot of the players on them saints teams this was some down right scummy shit and some of them absolutely should have been suspended indefinitely. If smoking pot can get you Perma banned then this shouldn't even have been a maybe
That’s because Oakland is a franchise that has been known for shooting themselves in their own foot since the 90’s. They get penalties because they’re dumb not because there is a bounty for them to hurt players. Unlike the Saints. Get over it. Your favorite team and HC are all POS losers.
That entire organization got off scot-free I'm not a Vikings fan on my eagles fan and I'll tell you right now they rob Brett favre of his last super bowl
The thing about bountygate is the saints defense at the time caused fewer injuries per game than the league average, also it’s been proven that the saints were not the only team to have a bounty program.
Is this a try from you to wash that shit that happened clean with some nice words with also finger pointing on other teams? What happened was shit and gets hopefully not forgotten.
I was at the game when Vilma came off of his suspension. It was against the Giants and the Giants beat the hell out of the Saints that day. And trust me, the officials were watching the Saints very carefully to make sure there was no more Bountygate going on.
The coaching statements referring to "kill the head" is way out of context. The coach was talking about a snake, " kill the head, and the body will die". He wanted to make Gore run sideways, not north and south as he did successfully that season. Make him turn sideways, kill the head. Just a few coaching cliches, not an order to hurt someone. Play the tape without explaining it, and it sounds terrible. Not the case.
"I want his head turned sideways before y'all get off the pile" ... He was ordering possible life changing injuries. You can deny it all you want, FTS.
Viking should get another ring it’s just unfair I’ve been a loyal Vikings fans looking at are zero rings and how we probably would’ve had one I’m glad we knocked them out of playoffs twice.
@@jasondavis5714 a bounty is a bounty? The NFL never convicted the saints of a bounty either, there was no evidence. I’m not gonna sit here and try to defend our bounty, if we had one, shame on our personnel for allowing that, but why punish just one team when the Vikes QB, Favre, admitted that they had one too. Bounties are bad for the game, but so is having officials retaliate against a franchise despite not having any of the players on roster that committed the rumored bounty from over a decade ago.
I felt bad for the saints in the NFC Championship game but I never really known what the bounty gate was until now and i don't feel bad for them and kind of hate tbh
It doesn’t surprise me. You’ll never be able to take out the “do whatever it takes to win” aspect of any sport. It’s somehow something I love and hate. For obvious reasons.
Ya I broke a kids back in pee wee.. kind of a cheap crack back on a linebacker when I was playing slot and my coach was more pumped then when I scored a td or made a good catch or something lol the kid was fine but he had to have a spinal fusion at like 12 years old which must’ve suck
you know what's really sad about this, is was all bs made up by the league to punish a team for winning a Super Bowl and not handing it over like the Seahawks did for Brady that was so obvious and pathetic
I remember watching that playoff game thinking my gosh, they're gonna kill Farve! Absolutely was 100% a Bounty System! Not sure why Payton is so butt hurt?! You messed up, they caught you lol...
Got away with it? I'm pretty sure every team had something like this going, but kept it quiet after the Saints got pinned with it. Most handled the suspensions well and like MEN, they've done their time and DID NOT get away with it.
@EDP445 this shit is over. the horse has been dead 5 years. no where near mad bro, just a shame that people think they actually got away with it. The ones who got away with it were the 31 other teams that did the same thing in some form of fashion
"got away with it" in the sense that the punishment did not match the wrongful act. doesnt matter if others arent punished for the same thing. you want them to not punish anyone unless they punish everyone and let it continue? this deserved jail time. idk what youve been through in life to not think this is as big a deal as it is but its sick
You guys realize that this happened and definitely still does to a point all the time in NFL locker rooms? The media got ahold of this and so many people outside of football blew this story up mainly because it involves the beloved Favre. There’s a reason Gregg Williams got many more jobs in the NFL... it this was actually something that didn’t happen regularly he would never have got another job again..
Unixe shit did they try to fucking snipe hall of famers and fucking kill them for money? let me check this article, and who did the vikings even hurt that whole yea?
After listening to Drew Brees (with wife by his side) I 100% did not believe him! Also, it is very shameful that Greg Williams is still allowed to coach in the NFL after this. This topic comes up ever so often and is quickly squashed in most inner circles and I'm glad you covered it!!
Dam y’all hate the Saints for this but most teams have done this ... that same Vikings team had a bounty ... NFL used the Saints to show the world the care from all the CTE problems.
Right, my cousin told me that he quit football because of players from all teams systematically trying to injure good players. I can only imagine how deep the rabbit whole is
As a Vikings fan, I'm cool with the Saints never winning a SB again. Hated since 09' and always will. I respect Brees but I could care less to ever see that team have a winning season. Hope they become the next "Browns team"
@@CleanGoose96 I'm guessing you don't understand when I said "since 09'". Which would be the year that the Saints beat the Vikings to then go on to win the Superbowl. Which is why I could care less if they have a winning season again.
Every team did it Saints just got caught for it. People just mad that we won a Super Bowl knocking people into the turf. That’s not an unfair advantage, that’s just football.
False. It’s been proven that bounties give players god tier abilities. It’s basically like giving all your players a 99 rating in Madden. It’s cheating. 😐
@@Mari-xl3tc spoken like a true Saints hater. Bucs ain't proved shit so they're the 2019 Browns until further notice. Can't wait for the season to pop off 🔥⚜ WHODAT!!!
@@Allopientubefish2 but the super bowl was already played, I mean you cant just take the trophy and the rings and the money and the hats and the shirts and be like 'Bad boy, you're grounded! You can't have this stuff anymore.'
Trust me the boy's who did the breaking also got broken or got someone on there own team put in a lot of pain. In baseball a pitcher throws near your man's head you try and put one through one side and out the other of one of his guy's. It's always been this way in all sports. You better be ready for payback!
The NFL doesn’t hide their dislike for the Saints. They literally had a NFC Championship stolen from them a couple years ago with the no call pass interference against the Rams. They deserved it though.
U mad bro?? They were being too mean to your Vikings?? Why don’t get pissed about wasting a miracle, just to get ran over by Philly. Or be pissed about overpaying a QB twice that’s done nothing?? Besides, if y’all thought the Saints were being too mean, whatcha think would’ve happened against a killer like Manning?? On behalf of all New Orleans, I just wanna say that I’m sorry my team was being so rough on you guys.
Zero players maimed or carted off that season. Plus all the hits were LEGAL. Zero flags thrown for roughing the passer or unnecessary roughness. ZERO! That investigation was a sham. They used a disgruntled employee to prove their point.
As a saints fan I still think that the bounty gate scandal is and was completely unacceptable, and we didn’t really deserve that super bowl. Thank gosh we have moved on from that and are doing good in Drew Brees’s final season, but I still have that in the back of my mind that... we kinda deserved the missed pi and the Minneapolis miracle.
I distinctly remember being 10 years old and watching Brett Favre et. al get absolutely demolished by hits in the championship game. The whole story is incredible, and was really well told throughout this video. What I think is surprising is how many of them are still involved in the game in some aspect to this day, Payton and Williams are still somehow coaching, and Jonathan Vilma is doing pregame shows for NFL Network. If i were involved in any of these teams/ networks I feel as though I would want to distance myself and my organization from any part of this scandal. It's been about a decade and the fallout is still prevalent in the league. I might be just jaded because of the 2010 heartbreak, but I feel like this rings true for anyone other than diehard saints fans.
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Imagine going into Seattle trying to hurt their players and your entire defense gets ran over by some dude high on skittles
They tried doing the same thing to SF, meanwhile donte whither laid there RB unconscious without any money... that defense was just different..
In 2011 I think Hasselback was in TEN actually
Still imagine going to try to injure a QB for 9-7
I remember watching that Game that's when Marshawn Lynch ran over the New Orleans Saints, the State Of Louisiana and the City Of New Orleans.
Cringe
imagine beating Peyton in the super bowl and the commissioner get mad and try to destroy a franchise 😂😅
Funny thing is Gregg Williams is now on the same team as Frank Gore and he said he wanted to "kill frank gores head" They must get along well😂😂😂
Ikr
If he didn't see thar yet imma show him it or tell him to look at it one day too tho lol.
Especially if I can do it tho on tho while he is on that team tho lmao 😂
That's what I was thinking. I feel bad for Frank gore.
wowwwwwwwwwww, SO TRUE!
who’s here after gregg williams blitzed on a hail mary and then got fired
Bad decision but not as bad you think.
He called coverage the play before and Carr missed an open receiver in the endzone.
There was time left for 2 plays unless there was a sack which would’ve ended the game. (Almost happened)
But yeah isolating a UDFA against a burner at the end of a game is a mistake.
After they win a couple SBs with Trevor the Jets may build a Gregg Williams statue.
I was just bouta comment that 😂😂
Helllllll yeah!
Jajaja I'm the man who put this over 69 likes
He probably paid the player to do it
It's shameful Greg Willam's ever was allowed to Coach again ! It's demonstrates how little the NFL cares about player safety
Sean Payton too
Smh that’s insane to me … they only
Care about money
no evidence just bs
Makes me lose respect for the Saints organization, Greg Williams more so, but like every other bullshit case, Rodger Goodell shows how much he’s sucks as the commissioner.
@jimmybutler5710 exactly
I’m here after the Jets V Broncos game. Steve Smith was going ham on Greg Williams post games after the late hits on Brett Rypien.
Gregg Williams is garbonzo
WILL WILLIAMS EVER LEARN!?
As a Broncos fan that was not acceptable
I cannot believe these coaches are still "coaching". Also yeah g.williams n jets are dirty players still in 2020.
You say he’s a shitty coach but the players are the ones that made the choice to play that way.
My rb coach in middle school had something similar, but instead of 50 grand we got some stickers for our helmet and a big mac.
How can you be that much dumb, don’t coach football if you don’t know football
Really? Are u against it? if I had a coach that did that then I’d probably petition to get him fired and quit and get other people to quit to a point where they don’t have enough players to play a football game until they fired that coach
@@oddbigking9069 no, it was a lot more tame. Stuff like big tackle breaks and running guys over, not injuring the other team.
Zack Richards yeah we had the same thing. Although, y’all getting a Big Mac is even more than just the stickers lol😂😂
@@edward6749 them big macs were only for when you really busted a guy down. I live in the rust belt so pretty much all contact sports are big deal and I'm sure that's exacerbated by the fact that riddell employs a large number of people in community.
saints should have signed Vontaze Burfict no one would have suspected a thing
Facts
fun fact this is bounty system is still going on
Lol accurate😂💯
@@rustyrnds Nah. NFL takes player safety more serious than ever now I've seen some of the hits Favre took in the championship game and the dudes would now be ejected for that stuff and fined big time money
Drroa if that’s so Carson Wentz is a prime bounty target
“Tipped anonymously by fired defensive coach Mike Cerillo”
... Well that went well
Exactly right?!!! Hahaha my thoughts exactly!!!
Who was hired by the NFL head office after this.
So much for being anonymous.
Bountygate - Also known as "the NFL in the 70's"
minus the 💰
“kill the head and the body will die” tf is that?
But this isn’t the 70s no more 😂
@@justinjefferson2632 kill the brain the body dies
💯
They still couldn’t get Favre out lol
They didnt do anything dirty. All legal hits.
@@Atricks861 rewatch that NFC championship game vs the Vikings. They tried everything to injure Farve and its so obvious. When i watched as the game happened back then. My friends and I kept saying it looked like the Saints were literally trying to cheap shot Farve out of the game.
@@mass.1710 Sounds like you were just seeing shit. The Saints just won the game playing tough defense. Sorry the Vikings didn't win like you wanted.
@@nickl1768 Seems like your Saints fan that’s mad that you’re getting accused of stuff that you did Favre was injured because the Saints did everything in your power to hurt every single person on the Vikings team the saints would not of won the Super Bowl if you played fairly so I think you’re seeing s**t and that maybe you should pay attention a little bit more and all those people that don’t play fairly can go to hell
Does anyone remember OBJ sayin something about Gregg Williams last year he said his defense tried to hurt him
Heinz ward literally went on ESPN and said that the Ravens players had a bounty on him during a playoff game yet not one peep from the NFL
Because they're big time rivals. Also, Hines Ward is a somewhat violent person. He was shit talking the Ravens sideline. Wanting to knock his shit out, is something natural between rivals.
Yeah Hines Ward the master of the blindside block(aka the bitch block)
@@jcar4lifemancity4life5 yup caus someone supposed to make eye contact wit u before u hit them
@@jamman950 No it's just dirty football imo if your going around blindsiding people.
Shouldn’t be surprising at all. The Steelers deflated balls against the giants shortly after deflategate and not a single word came from the NFL brass lol
I don’t care if you get payed to get an interception or a sack but trying to injure other players so you can win the game is just selfish.
Welcome to the world of Sports
Thats what they were doing, not the way the NFL made it look to be.
@Elite Soulfly exactly the had proof. The only proof they had to condemn the Saints was heresay from an alcoholic, unprofessional former employee that was fired and a soundbite of Greg Williams telling the homies to merk Frank Gore.
That's, been around way before you claim the Saints did it, but because it was the Saints you make a big deal about. It's still around it's not going anywhere.
It is legal to get pay bonuses to get like sacks and int but hurting others on purpose is very illegal
Been waiting on this one! pat mcafee and mikerphone combined are better sports news content producers than the mainstream sports media by far. Authenticity is refreshing.
Check out Flemo raps he's got really good content as well, he talks about stories like this.
@@morganstarchild5359 I love his channel too!
Them losing every year to the Vikings and being eliminated in heartbreaking fashion is karma for what they did and I hope it continues
every year?
@@poppaluv Every. Year.
@@poppaluv get ready to see more ”pi” ”miracles” ”push-offs” that will take your shitty franchise relocated to a better city that doesn't get horrible hurricanes
@@europe8513 LOL "shitty francise". "better city", "horrible hurricanes"
Ok sparky.
Is someone is still salty over 28-3?
@@poppaluv I'm a bucs fan lol nice assumption becuz we literally owned the nfc south since it was born 🤣 we sit down and laugh at 15-1 failures, 28-3 failures, and 3 consecutive playoff chokers
When snapping legs on purpose gets u less of a suspension than playing with a ball that doesn’t have enough air💀
We lost our coach for a year
Paul Macaluso we didn’t get a ring
Ethan Dale it’s just a ring
Finnley brown rings are definitely the main measure of a teams success over time
If enough air was the only time they cheated it would be one thing but it was one of 4 time that they got caught!
Sean Payton:
I take full responsibility for everything that happened
-League suspends Payton for a year-
Sean Payton:
This is bullshit! How are they gonna do this to me?
Correction: League FALSELY suspends Payton for a year.
@@somerandompatriotsfan4415 They suspended one season man, if you dont know, dont talk idiot
@@fernandogordillo3054 Yeah they suspended him, but the point im trying to make is that his suspension was not justified.
@@somerandompatriotsfan4415 ohhhh sorry I thought You said another thing
Sain
You should’ve talked about how Odell recently talked about the jets defensive coordinator saying how they tried targeting him.
Greg williams
Odell HAHAHAHAHAH I dont believe a word that nutjob says.
@@somerandompatriotsfan4415 yeah same the guy likes getting shit on like literally shit on
@@blesusjesus I wonder how much shit that guy can catch
Honestly it might be true, they have had the same defensive coordinator, the jets and the saints.
Brett Favre ankle was broken, not just injured for a short amount of time.
His ankle is still broken the next year when he tried to play and couldn't do it with an injury diminished team around him.
If he hadn't decided to retire he could have come back the following year, but like most major injuries he was going to need a year-and-a-half that he didn't have any longer in his career to come back from that ankle surgery. Disgusting.
Not to mention what they did to Kurt Warner when they ended his career on a hit the game before..
We were bounty hunting while being bottom 5 in injuries it was a dog and pony show because goodell had cte lawsuits falling out of his ass
Thanks!
The saints just lost in the playoffs again. They are truly paying the price for all this nasty shit they pulled. And I’m happy with it.
same, they deserve all the heartbreaking losses in the last four years because of 2009😭😭
as a Rams fan, i’m so happy that no call happened against them, it’s their karma
@@ZynPapi1 dude I'm a saints fan and I agree I hate that this happened but the no call should never have happened. But I will say we still choked that year after we threw the pick on o.t. but they should have called the pi. But still I hate Greg William's for doing that in 2009.
@@Bpixel17 no call was because of how y’all robbed the steelers of a victory
@@IWantToMature85 umm. Refresh my memory on the Steelers. Sorry I have a bad memory. But okay believing karma should decide games is retarded. If a call should have been made. And it would decide the game on who won. I want the right call. I hate when the two teams I like ( Saints as my hometown team, and Broncos cause I liked them as a kid.) And they win on a bailout penalty, I dont like it. But again karma shouldn't decide a game or be happy when someone loses after they did something bad. Many people didnt say Brady deserved to lose after deflate gate. Like I didnt want him to lose on a stupid no call. I wanted him to lose legitimately. So saying that's what they get is retarded
How tf did “underinflated” footballs in a 45-7 blowout get a larger fine from the league than a system literally built to intentionally injure players?
I always felt the legion of boom was a “nasty”defense to have to play against but I don’t remember anyone questioning how they played
Coming from a Vikings fan this game sucked so much could’ve been our first super bowl 😭
Should’ve been
As a packers fan I feel y’all since we choke every year in the NFC championship, winning the super bowl would’ve been a wonderful way for Brett Favre to go out
But now at least y’all woop the saints every year in the playoffs
Maybe AP shouldn’t have fumbles 4 times
Players got off on a technicality. They weren’t paying anyone, they were just the hired hitmen.
The players were throwing in on the bounties.
That's why they are getting called for all penalties 😂
LMFAOOOOOOOO
Broh
Yea, they're still paying for this.
😭😭😭😭
Yep!...that obvious Rams PI in the NFC championship game in 2019 😂
Saints weren’t the only team that did this s
Right
Fortnite Memes are you being sarcastic?
And they did get punished pretty severely
Players paid the bounties. Goodell just used them as scapegoats for concussion protocol to make it seem like the nfl was trying
Vikings were in on it
www.google.com/amp/s/vikingswire.usatoday.com/2016/10/26/turns-out-the-vikings-also-had-a-bounty-program-when-brett-favre-was-qb/amp/
Hope this doesn't get demonitized
Sadly it did
_foreshadowing_
@@christopherlammons8448 bruh
I’m here after the Jets V Broncos game. Steve Smith was going ham on Greg Williams post games after the late hits on Brett Rypien.
@@Matt-ts4ln Good question
These are so good, don’t stop making them
Thats why hopefully the Saint hopefully never beat the vikings again in the playoffs!
I am 100% sure the Saints weren't the only team doing it.
Ravens were placing bounties on Rivals heads too
@@Allopientubefish2 I think honestly like every defensive coordinator has probably thought about something LIKE a bounty program before, whether they actually implemented it or not is the difference.
If you are a defensive coordinator or defensive head coach or whatever, you are in a leadership position. One of the most effective leadership strategies is incentivization. This is why like, commission is so powerful in sales groups because it introduces a competitive element to everything that encourages people to DO more because they know they will GET more.
That being said, in this context they were offering people like tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of dollars to not just injure people, but like... potentially ruin their careers altogether. It's inherently evil. BUT like I said, I seriously doubt they were the only ones doing it.
The NFL and football itself are incredibly dangerous career choices. Nobody disputes this. It's basically like chess with humans, it's just that especially nowadays we aren't really supposed to like seeing the pieces fall. BUT the strategic advantage of either being injured or faking injury in the context of such a game cannot be underestimated.
I think the fact of the matter is that selective injury may be part of the strategy of football, whether people like to admit that or not. It's just the Saints not only took it a little farther by giving under the table financial incentives, they did it and they got caught. I think a lot of teams quietly shelved their own bounty programs or similar in the aftermath of that and crossed their fingers they wouldn't get caught, too.
Minnesota had one in the same season lmao
It’s like patriots filming other teams ... th got caught ... as simple as that 😉
Knowing plays and wanting to take a shot at the QB to take them out are two different things. I know the Eagles had Smash for Cash, similar to what the Saints had
“Now that we got all that out of the way BREAK” (Ad comes on)
Does anyone remember OBJ sayin something about Gregg Williams last year he said his defense tried to hurt him
Yeah i remember
Yes, I remember but OBJ is kinda known to make excuses if he doesn’t have a big game. Maybe that’s why the NFL didn’t take what he said seriously. Althgh, i cant see OBJ making up something like that.
im sure some teams do it still, they just dont get paid for it or something more secret.
@@mass.1710 but greg Williams was the DC soooooo
reminds of when NFL Blitz had bounties for injuring players 😈‼️
Even as a Vikings fan I never thought to compare this to the Astros World Series win. I should have a while ago.
My rb coach in middle school had something similar, but instead of 50 grand we got some stickers for our helmet and a big mac.
Dumb thing to say
possibly the dumbest thing I have ever read
well the Astros didn't try to kill anyone like the Saints did
I don’t think Gregg Williams still has a bounty system. I do think the jets probably need one 😂😂
it’s a goid thing that jamal adams left the jets so he dint have to break a leg on purpose
Ya now he’s on the Seahawks and doing great
Goid
Very goid ting dint
This sorta stuff sucks, but to think it only happens in the saints organization is crazy. Glad you pointed that out, but not surprised. Another great video man!! Keep it up!!
You gotta remember, these saints are a completely different team. They are an amazing team. I can’t say the same for the other guys though. But just remember that.
Back then they weren't bud
jolbox 2 did you not see me say, I can’t say that for the other guys.
Cheating by taking out other players because they were not good enough to win otherwise , dose not make them amazing .
They haven't been back since they got busted !
@@44xxggaaj none of the players from the defense ten years ago are still on this team. I am talking about the present day saints. I think what the 2010 saints defense did was horrible
@@44xxggaaj the 2009 Saints team was the best team in the NFL the whole season. They had the #1 seed in the NFC locked up, rested players for the last few weeks, had an amazing offense, and a defense that forced a tremendous amount of turnovers. The bounty scandal was complete nonsense made up by Roger Goodell and no evidence was ever provided by Goodell or the NFL. It's an overblown false narrative and a joke. The 2009 Saints team was amazing and the best in the NFL. During the "bounty" years they were well below the league average in injuries caused. Its just utterly false that they were turned into some demonized team that was considered to have caused injuries week in and week out.
I didnt realize how much hot water the NFL found themselves in during 2012-13. The Referee Lockout, Junior Seau's suicide (which led to more talks on CTE), the Bountygate scandal, the Ray Rice situation, the Adrian Peterson situation, Aaron Hernandez charged with murder, Dolphins bullying scandal, my goodness...
Not sure why Payton is mad at the NFL, they gift wrapped that super bowl win for them and the city after Katrina. That’s the real scam Sean.
I like how everyone acts like this is the only team that has ever done this, or it stopped with them lol
Well they're the idiots who got caught.
Thats the problem with getting caught. Is YOU got caught lol.
Fact Favre came from the 90s and was built different than any QB in league history (true Iron Man even at age 40), was why he finished that game. Dude at 40 probably had the body of a 65 year old given what he went through his entire career of punishments and injuries and still never missing a game. Took BountyGate to start the retirement process for Favre. Fact he retired at 42 was a miracle
This still happens across the league. That's why Williams is still coaching. The NFL/Goodell wanted to make an example of the Saints.
Romanowski is probably low key a billionaire from bounties paid for his "dirty work"!😄
Get it right" Mr. Dirty Work". When people speak of Bill, former players start looking over their shoulders even now.
Youre off by a year in almost every instance
I agree totally like the saints were the only team to do dirty shit hey it's football this shit was going on in the 80's to
At this point from the things Greg said he isn’t just someone playing dirty in football and a terrible person he is also a man who needs mental help cause the things he said in that audio sounded very seductive and evil
Seductive? Sinister.
Yeah he needs to go to an asylum
Think that's psychotic? listen to interviews of hardnosed tackles and linebackers from the United Football League, Global Football League, and 60s-70s football . Short famous clips: Csonka: so I fienged a duck and drove my shoulders upwards, fist and shoulders up and the beautiful sound of his head snapping back... I was going to get him for what he did to me and my team mate" (only full back to get a 2,000 dollar fine, and a 15 yard penalty for playing to hard)
This video is going to be lit I can already tell
Dude just by the start
Being from New Orleans (an extremely corrupt city) and knowing about the dark side of sports ...this was not surprising at all when it all went down..I'm sure many teams were doing this type of under handed locker room incentivizing. Enjoying watching the older Mikerophone videos and seeing the production differences, watched the Deflate Gate one on this channel last night. I guess every team has their cross to bear at some point lol.
Every team has or has had a bounty system of sorts most likely. But none of them even begin to compare to the size, sustainability, longevity, cruelty, and sheer evil of Bountygate.
gregg williams got what he deserved earlier this week
My dad played linebacker for 13 years in the NFL. He said all the teams do it. Saints just got caught
Y’all ever heard of Jonathan Vilma?! pop!🤪😂
As much as I loved a lot of the players on them saints teams this was some down right scummy shit and some of them absolutely should have been suspended indefinitely. If smoking pot can get you Perma banned then this shouldn't even have been a maybe
Jadaveon clowney got that bounty on carson wentz in the wildcard round shit was so dirty
Who’s here after Gregg Williams is fired
They must’ve led the league in penalties for the 3 years that the bounty was going.🤔 wait that was Oakland 🤦🏼♂️
That’s because Oakland is a franchise that has been known for shooting themselves in their own foot since the 90’s. They get penalties because they’re dumb not because there is a bounty for them to hurt players. Unlike the Saints. Get over it. Your favorite team and HC are all POS losers.
@@topshotkyy9777 except Willie brown said they were getting bounties too back in the day raiders are the biggest p.o.s in the league foh
That entire organization got off scot-free I'm not a Vikings fan on my eagles fan and I'll tell you right now they rob Brett favre of his last super bowl
We need more videos like this one!
We need a good look at the 2006-07 super bowl and how it was rigged by the nfl 🙏
Lol what makes you think it was rigged?
Update: the jets defense is, in fact, NOT nasty.
Learning about this story back in 2012 made that 49ers playoff win even better
The thing about bountygate is the saints defense at the time caused fewer injuries per game than the league average, also it’s been proven that the saints were not the only team to have a bounty program.
Is this a try from you to wash that shit that happened clean with some nice words with also finger pointing on other teams? What happened was shit and gets hopefully not forgotten.
I was at the game when Vilma came off of his suspension. It was against the Giants and the Giants beat the hell out of the Saints that day. And trust me, the officials were watching the Saints very carefully to make sure there was no more Bountygate going on.
its always amazing to me that the NFLPA always protects the players even to the detriment of the game and other players.
This is exactly why ill hate the saints and root against them till Payton is gone. Ridiculous hes still in the NFL.
Yeah so ridiculous that he’s one of the best coaches in the NFL and runs one of the best offenses ever
The coaching statements referring to "kill the head" is way out of context. The coach was talking about a snake, " kill the head, and the body will die". He wanted to make Gore run sideways, not north and south as he did successfully that season. Make him turn sideways, kill the head. Just a few coaching cliches, not an order to hurt someone. Play the tape without explaining it, and it sounds terrible. Not the case.
"I want his head turned sideways before y'all get off the pile"
... He was ordering possible life changing injuries. You can deny it all you want, FTS.
you be making movies bruh , I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS !
Saints fans crying right now. Y’all know y’all won a Super Bowl during this right? You know what that means?🤣🤣
Right Debo’d they ass #whodat
*It's not cheating right?*
Bruh where does it say they tried tearing other players ACLs? Tf?
@@jesusdetimofeev9678 all injuries wtf not just ACL's
Yeah, it means they were the best team that year, nothing less nothing more
Viking should get another ring it’s just unfair I’ve been a loyal Vikings fans looking at are zero rings and how we probably would’ve had one I’m glad we knocked them out of playoffs twice.
y’all had a bounty program in the same year😂🤡
yall literally had a bounty program in the same year lmaooo
@@evanladner9288 idk bout that but it wasn’t close to as bad as urs
@@jasondavis5714 a bounty is a bounty? The NFL never convicted the saints of a bounty either, there was no evidence. I’m not gonna sit here and try to defend our bounty, if we had one, shame on our personnel for allowing that, but why punish just one team when the Vikes QB, Favre, admitted that they had one too. Bounties are bad for the game, but so is having officials retaliate against a franchise despite not having any of the players on roster that committed the rumored bounty from over a decade ago.
@@evanladner9288 Just saying u guys ruined are best chance at a superbowl
I felt bad for the saints in the NFC Championship game but I never really known what the bounty gate was until now and i don't feel bad for them and kind of hate tbh
this goes on around the NFL tho...
I'm a bucs fan I started jumping up and down those last 3 years lol
This is my favorite new account. Keep up the great vids bro.
Great video bro!
he just got fired from the jets
There was a “bounty system” in my pop Warner league in the late 90s lol. This been around forever lol
It doesn’t surprise me. You’ll never be able to take out the “do whatever it takes to win” aspect of any sport. It’s somehow something I love and hate. For obvious reasons.
were you given candy in return for injuring someone
Ya I broke a kids back in pee wee.. kind of a cheap crack back on a linebacker when I was playing slot and my coach was more pumped then when I scored a td or made a good catch or something lol the kid was fine but he had to have a spinal fusion at like 12 years old which must’ve suck
Stop lying what are you gonna pay them
Ajspecial1000 candy, pizza parties, $5-$10 from a coach or parent.
And you know what’s sad about this, Drew Brees was completely innocent in all this and had no idea.
you know what's really sad about this, is was all bs made up by the league to punish a team for winning a Super Bowl and not handing it over like the Seahawks did for Brady that was so obvious and pathetic
Who’s here after week 15, BUC vs Saints 21’
channel is dope!!
I remember watching that playoff game thinking my gosh, they're gonna kill Farve! Absolutely was 100% a Bounty System! Not sure why Payton is so butt hurt?! You messed up, they caught you lol...
How’d he get “caught” if he wasn’t even involved in the first place? He’s an offensive coordinator lmao
Got away with it? I'm pretty sure every team had something like this going, but kept it quiet after the Saints got pinned with it. Most handled the suspensions well and like MEN, they've done their time and DID NOT get away with it.
@EDP445 this shit is over. the horse has been dead 5 years. no where near mad bro, just a shame that people think they actually got away with it. The ones who got away with it were the 31 other teams that did the same thing in some form of fashion
@@warlord435 Idk, you seem pretty mad to me lol.
@@devinbannish1469 lol I'm good, just weird he says they got away with it when 1/4 the video is about their punishment 🤷♂️
Did you even watch the video?
"got away with it" in the sense that the punishment did not match the wrongful act. doesnt matter if others arent punished for the same thing. you want them to not punish anyone unless they punish everyone and let it continue? this deserved jail time. idk what youve been through in life to not think this is as big a deal as it is but its sick
You guys realize that this happened and definitely still does to a point all the time in NFL locker rooms? The media got ahold of this and so many people outside of football blew this story up mainly because it involves the beloved Favre. There’s a reason Gregg Williams got many more jobs in the NFL... it this was actually something that didn’t happen regularly he would never have got another job again..
Unixe shit did they try to fucking snipe hall of famers and fucking kill them for money? let me check this article, and who did the vikings even hurt that whole yea?
Cause the league condones that shit, it helps them swing games.
I love you channel
Sean Payton turned to the Vikings crowd and gave them the choke sign before the last play in the 2017 playoffs. DIGGS. SIDELINE. TOUCHDOWN!!!
That all out blitz he called was called bounty blitz.
now i understand why most hate the saints lmao
Most teams did this 😂
@@cap7520 no they didn’t, name the other teams.
2019 Vikings vs Saints playoff game KARMA!!! 2017 Vikings vs Saints playoff game ( Mpls miracle) KARMA!!!
After listening to Drew Brees (with wife by his side) I 100% did not believe him! Also, it is very shameful that Greg Williams is still allowed to coach in the NFL after this. This topic comes up ever so often and is quickly squashed in most inner circles and I'm glad you covered it!!
Dam y’all hate the Saints for this but most teams have done this ... that same Vikings team had a bounty ... NFL used the Saints to show the world the care from all the CTE problems.
You got part of the story right. Too bad only the Saints “got caught”.
Bounties aren’t uncommon in this league. It’s just that teams and players can get away with it and this was the only time a team was caught up.
Right, my cousin told me that he quit football because of players from all teams systematically trying to injure good players. I can only imagine how deep the rabbit whole is
Well, someone got fired and snitched.
Saints were the biggest part of it.
@@Isaac-eh6uu that's a dumb statement raiders players from the 70s spoke on it said same thing was happening when they played
This was more extreme…
This was the best video yet Mike. Loved it!!!
As a Vikings fan, I'm cool with the Saints never winning a SB again. Hated since 09' and always will. I respect Brees but I could care less to ever see that team have a winning season. Hope they become the next "Browns team"
Where y’all super bowl??
@@CleanGoose96 I'm guessing you don't understand when I said "since 09'". Which would be the year that the Saints beat the Vikings to then go on to win the Superbowl. Which is why I could care less if they have a winning season again.
Every team did it Saints just got caught for it. People just mad that we won a Super Bowl knocking people into the turf. That’s not an unfair advantage, that’s just football.
Yea but they ain’t finna got there for a long ass time
@@Mari-xl3tc says who? You? Lmaooo haaaating
Charles Williams I ain’t hating at all y’all couldn’t make it past Vikings so y’all 4 sure ain’t making past the Buccaneers
False. It’s been proven that bounties give players god tier abilities. It’s basically like giving all your players a 99 rating in Madden. It’s cheating. 😐
@@Mari-xl3tc spoken like a true Saints hater. Bucs ain't proved shit so they're the 2019 Browns until further notice. Can't wait for the season to pop off 🔥⚜ WHODAT!!!
Video : clearly shows the punishments the Saints' staff and players were given.
Title : "..AND GOT AWAY WITH IT!"
They kept the Ring
@@Allopientubefish2 wtf are they gonna do, replay the super bowl? lol no, after a game is done, its done forever
@@postl3 no strip em of that shit simple
@@Allopientubefish2 but the super bowl was already played, I mean you cant just take the trophy and the rings and the money and the hats and the shirts and be like 'Bad boy, you're grounded! You can't have this stuff anymore.'
@@postl3 You can Goodell just doesn't have the balls to do it. If the crime was so heinous and it was
Trust me the boy's who did the breaking also got broken or got someone on there own team put in a lot of pain. In baseball a pitcher throws near your man's head you try and put one through one side and out the other of one of his guy's. It's always been this way in all sports. You better be ready for payback!
Bro how does Greg Williams still have a job Lmfaoooooo
The NFL doesn’t hide their dislike for the Saints. They literally had a NFC Championship stolen from them a couple years ago with the no call pass interference against the Rams. They deserved it though.
nobody deserves getting cheated on national tv the fans should've started a riot
Great job with this! I'm a Vikings fan and it makes me pissed. Karma is getting them now. Cousins destroyed them in the playoffs and Case Keenam.
And yall still havent sniffed a superbowl
"destroyed" wins on last play off game missed tackle and no call opi lmao neither one of them won those games for them.
U mad bro?? They were being too mean to your Vikings?? Why don’t get pissed about wasting a miracle, just to get ran over by Philly. Or be pissed about overpaying a QB twice that’s done nothing?? Besides, if y’all thought the Saints were being too mean, whatcha think would’ve happened against a killer like Manning?? On behalf of all New Orleans, I just wanna say that I’m sorry my team was being so rough on you guys.
Where yo Super Bowl?
And yall still ain't got a ring😂
Youre off by a year in almost every instance
Please do a video on Eli Manning. Anyone can say what they want, he has been my sports hero and he was magical at times.
The second you said BREAK! I got an ad. lol
@J Z. oh
Zero players maimed or carted off that season. Plus all the hits were LEGAL. Zero flags thrown for roughing the passer or unnecessary roughness. ZERO! That investigation was a sham. They used a disgruntled employee to prove their point.
As a saints fan this makes me grin every time even if it was bad
Karma
As a saints fan I still think that the bounty gate scandal is and was completely unacceptable, and we didn’t really deserve that super bowl. Thank gosh we have moved on from that and are doing good in Drew Brees’s final season, but I still have that in the back of my mind that... we kinda deserved the missed pi and the Minneapolis miracle.
@@seth_7197 i’m glad brees got his whole rib cage destroyed and choked again in the playoffs this year :)
@@JS-ez2tw how would it feel is someone liked it where you broke your rib cage
I distinctly remember being 10 years old and watching Brett Favre et. al get absolutely demolished by hits in the championship game. The whole story is incredible, and was really well told throughout this video.
What I think is surprising is how many of them are still involved in the game in some aspect to this day, Payton and Williams are still somehow coaching, and Jonathan Vilma is doing pregame shows for NFL Network. If i were involved in any of these teams/ networks I feel as though I would want to distance myself and my organization from any part of this scandal. It's been about a decade and the fallout is still prevalent in the league. I might be just jaded because of the 2010 heartbreak, but I feel like this rings true for anyone other than diehard saints fans.
And Sharper is in jail for rape.
But then again, as much as I think it's an automatic lifetime ban they still idolized Ray Lewis and Marvin Harrison.
youre just a hater, and you never grew up