Look I'm 30 years old and you have no idea how glad I am I found a RUclips channel where someone isn't screaming in my face like I'm 17 and offering only "reacts" as content. Keep up the good work and articulate explanations.
Something I never realized as a first time subi owner, but i do now. Anything over 400whp is almost un usable on the street. The internet wants us too think 400whp is slow.
After driving a few outrageous cars, one of them being a 2018 g wagon awd with 566 hp and tq and it was an experience for sure. But it’s useless. I think that 300 hp and tq in a car like this is absolutely more than enough. If you plan on tracking the car then obviously then it makes sense, but for daily driving even my 2020 stock wrx is more than enough.
Good point, I live in Norway 🇳🇴 and own a blobeye STI.. its properly tuned, forged internals, spec-c twinscroll turbo, reversed inlet for even lower turbo lag cuz of less piping.. power? 380 hp. Its built like that to last as long as possible, but that horsepower is more than enough on the street.. I could lose my license in a few snaps of fingertips, and going full throttle.. it doesn't take long before you are already at dangerously high speeds, so yeah.. subies are lightweight and dont really need like 500-600 hp to be fun. You want usable power, not so much power that you cant use.
Ended up with a 21’ STI w/ 15k miles on it. Bone stock except the Cobb 3” titanium catback. Owned it one month now, and already spent a months salary on parts. Damn this thing is addicting! Heading for the tuner and dyno this Friday!
03:19 as someone who works with carbon fiber daily, which requires a respirator while modifying it, I completely agree with this. Carbon fiber is super overrated when it’s not used in a functional way.
@@adrianvasquez4164 yea but some people should just not be allowed to modify cars, not even talking about cosmetics rn, 90% of "car guys" do the WORST mods and just do shit wrong and then wonder why their car doesn't perform the way they want it to
For one, this is one of the best builds on an STI I’ve seen in a while. I love the mild but super flavorful style like this. For two. Those are the absolute best wheels I’ve seen paired with the lapis blue. Swear to god. Chefs kiss.
2011 WRX here. You just pretty much helped me make a decision I’ve been fighting. I have Nameless turboback with their catted downpipe. Love the sound. But I started to wonder if catless was the way. With driving it so much, I’ll stay catted for a while. Starting all my fueling mods and a few other support mods now.
Just to add something. I have a conversation with a over 12 years experience Subaru mechanic. The Intake change would not affect the engine. The car have a mass flow sensor. The sensor will calculate how much flow of air and the computer ajust the consumption of gas. The only thing tuning car helps is to adjust to get better performance with what you have or add.
This. Ive run the Perrin intake with no tune for 15k miles with 0 issues. If the change of air flow were enough to cause a problem, you would throw a CEL
I really like my '14 STI hatch, but 100% agree on the fact that it is not the right platform for high HP, specially on stock block. I've done my research prior to starting my build, and come to quickly realize that it takes alot to squeeze power of these flat 4 and a comfortable/reliable number is between 350-380 WHP... of course with a $10k+ budget, a built block would get you that and more.
I don't have any issues with boost creep. I have an invidia catless downpipe going to an r400 catback. But I also run a Cobb EBCS, sf intake, and an AEM 340lph fuel pump with a pro tune. Without the boost controller, yes, boost creep can become an issue. But if you do it correctly catless is fine.
Other than certain parts of the longblock these Subaru STI's are super tough. I've seen 1000whp cars run multiple seasons on the stock 6 speed. The brakes are bomb, the axles are pretty dang strong, the diffs hold up to a ton of abuse, really is a great platform. Great video and I agree with all your 5 do not things though man, great video.
Disagree. these are incredible cars to build for high hp. High revving can throw all the boost at it. Either more bread or more knowledge for you my friend. Anything can be fast. And maybe you pay more than an evo or a supra. But that's just pride my friend. Rods pistons ported heads if u want. Fueling and a turbski.
@@pauloquintana2511 Ummm...that exactly what I said, these cars are great performance cars and with the right mods can make impressive numbers. Mine was making 551whp and 561whtq before I pulled the FP Green for a rotated 6870. I'll have it back together next week and we'll be shooting for low 700s on the stock motor (not for long, a built long block this summer will help push it over 1000whp).
@@mr.carguy3161 Yes it is cheaper to build a Honda. Making 900whp with an LS is even cheaper and easier. Sometimes it's not about the most cost effective way to make power. The Boxer 4 cylinder is unique and a really cool driving experience. That's like comparing the I4 in my Honda Fireblade to the V4 in my Ducati Streetfighter. Both make over 200hp but they are radically different in how they make that power and how they feel to operate. Again, my Honda is cheaper to modify because it has one header, one head, one set of cams, etc. while my Ducati has two of everything.
Going CATLESS on the S209, but with all the supporting mods like you said: 1300CC, E85 full kit, TGV Delete, FMIC, and Tommy Kentner Protune. Good video, good points on not going OD on visual mods. Tasteful is key.
I have a 2019 with a cat back system on and I’ve had zero issues with it. Definitely sounds more like an sti. It runs at a comfortable tone and only loud when you want it to be.
It’s funny how tons of people think that EVOs can run 1000 hp. Well technically they can for like 5000 miles. A Evo motor can run reliable at 450 hp where in STI can at 400 not that big a difference.
At the 1min mark, you talk about needing a tune for a CAI. In general I agree but you go on to say there no way around it…that’s not accurate. I have a 2017 STI with a PERRIN CAI. I’ve had the car for the entire life of the vehicle thus far and had the PERRIN CAI on since like week 2. I’ve never tuned it, it’s my daily/farm car. Runs perfect. Fun fact…PERRIN is the only company that made their intakes to Subaru spec’s and as a result you end up with an intake that doesn’t require a tune. I’ve spoken to PERRIN myself to confirm (4 times, 3 different people). Like I said, in general I agree with the “CAI needs a tune!” sentiment but in this case there is no need.
That is very interesting. I don't want to tune my STI for fear of needing the engine warranty, but this could be the ticket. (Unless the intake has the same warranty drawback)
@@nthgth I wouldn’t know as I’ve not had to take it in for anything since I bought it. Nothing engine related anyhow. I know Subaru can be rough when it comes to that sorta thing but they still gotta prove the intake caused whatever issue you might have. As stated though, I’ve literally had zero issues with my engine…runs like a champ and I do indeed drive it like I stole it lol
@@dreambigaerialimaging9125 cool. Does it feel any different? Or just a different sound? I'd think that if it doesn't need a tune, it doesn't significantly alter airflow so it shouldn't drive differently, but maybe the sound itself can be felt
@@nthgth no noticeable difference in my opinion but I’ve talked to guys that swear it feels like it has more pep. I disagree. Now when I swapped my exhaust out, I felt like it made a little difference maybe. Perrin stands behind the “no tune needed” for their CAI. I’ve checked and rechecked just to make sure. As far as I can tell, they are literally the only one. I never wanted to tune it but wanted it to sound nice and this was really the only way to go when researching the topic. Sorry for taking so long to respond, notifications are off for some reason.
A man of refined taste, I've always said less is more. Here cause I just picked up a 2019 sti! Side note: the car only has 16,000 kms on it and second gear pulls have a couple dead zones in the powerband, feels like a dirty maf im gonna try that. But it also has me worried the dealership put the wrong gas in, feels like the car if pulling timing at higher boost. If anyone has suggestions i'd love to hear em, gonna run out this current tank of gas and put in the good stuff to see if it helps. Car is stock
I highly disagree with the lighting topic. I run the OLM Halo fog lights/ with the DRL Bezels plus LED turn signal lights, nothing too crazy. But the car looks definitely more modern. I think the stock look, specially on the front end looks outdated compared to similar cars out there. Either way, I respect your opinion, and your videos are great.
No worries! This is just my version of what I prefer on my own car. I get others have opinions and parts they like. That is the fun of modifying our cars!
Love the look of your STI. I agree with everything you said. Mine is a 2017. I’ve had a few minor adds, Invidia Gemini R400 exhaust, which admittedly is a bit loud but too late now. IAG air/oil separator, and the COBB accessport. I was considering changing out the stock turbo for the COBB 20G turbo but I have a lot of questions still. Great video. Thanks. 😊
Love the color, Beautiful ride. I personally agree, less is more, but i do hate the black plastic on my STi so im working on putting carbon fiber in those areas.
Hi Scooby, been watching many of your tubes and they are very helpful for STI newbie like me. 100% agreement that keeping clean and simple and enjoy the car the way it was designed to have fun. thank you for your good works
Just recently got a 20 STi. Looking into some mods. I’m just wondering who’s the go to tune for these cars and the best for basic mods like intakes and stuff?
Came here to find 5 things I should never do with a wrx or sti. :Changing the intake without a tune. Excellent. :Putting lights on the front of your car. Personal preference. :Fully venting bov, bad. Don't do this. :Carbon fiber. Personal preference. :Catless exhaust system. Personal preference. But good advice if you aren't getting tuned. I would have liked to hear your thoughts on why with these 5 specific things to never do. 1.Intake without a tune is bad because the ecu needs to know what the new Maf scaling is because the metered air coming into the engine is being changed. Therefore your fuel needs are also changed. 2.Swapping your blow off valve which recirculates the air that has been measured by the Maf is bad. This means that if you vent the air to hear that sweet swish sound it isn't going to mix with the fuel that the maf asked for causing the engine to run rich momentarily. You can get an aftermarket bov that has recirculation function kept in. Go fast bits offers an adjustable bov that allows you to partially vent and also recirculate. All the way to fully venting. 3.Catless downpipe can cause boost creep because you are increasing the flow of exhaust out of the turbo and allowing the turbine to spin more freely. The stock waste gate and boost controller can have a tough time managing this. But that also applies to high flow cat down pipes as well. So it comes down to personal preference. If you change the stock downpipe at all you should be upgrading the boost control solenoid and getting a tune done. 4.Too many lights on the front of your car. While completely personal preference, it can lead to issues in the charging system. Having too many things drawing a load on the charging system can lead to issues with engine performance. The more voltage drawn away from your fueling and ignition system the more likely you can run into injectors not pulsing correctly and weak spark delivery. This isn't likely with oem lighting, but if you're slapping those giant light bars on adding rally style fog lights, a sub woofer and 3 amps, you can see how this can lead to issues later on. 5. Carbon fiber. Completely personal preference. If you have the money and want to slap carbon fiber everywhere that's up to you. This isn't something you should never do. If it were me adding one more to the list. Never launch your wrx or sti without slipping the clutch. The awd system isn't likely to spin the tires and you're just going to shock the shit out of your drive train. Also roll into boost after 3k rpm. Don't just jam the throttle in low rpm as it puts a lot of load on the engine. Super clean Sti, appreciate the content. 👍
Hmm… I agree with having an access port and tubes ready. But.. doesn’t the stock bov leak with even 3lbs of air pressure? I’ve seen so many people take them off new blow into them manually to show a leak I see a lot of pro racers ride with some of the items you complain about I prefer a lot of suspension and chassis upgrades first then stage 2 to 3 “For me personally” I think your advice is for everyday drivers vs race weekend daily drivers
My 19 sti is stock other then the Cobb 3inch catback I want to but the Cobb sf intake from what I have read it will be fine as long as I run the ots map stage 1+93 on my accessport and I want to also put the same bpv as u is this ok?
Thanks I wanted to tripe check because I see all these videos saying as long as it's a Cobb SF intake and u have the Cobb access port it will be fine so a protune just for a Cobb intake I can't use the OTS map on my accessport?
What’s your opinion on the single exit exhaust on this car? My 2018 sti has the tomei ti titanium single exit with the catted downpipe, I think it looks pretty great and gives a clean sound without being too obnoxious and ricer sounding
My coworker had 2015 STI. First his trans blew now his engine blew. Barely making 300HP. Too much money for blowbru. He did catless downpipe with tune.
I would love to know what modifications he has on the car when this happened. My guess is he went stage 2 (possibly with an intake and catless) and didn't have any supporting fueling mods to accommodate the increased power. To blow a transmission on an STI is pretty uncommon. I would assume this fella launched the car 10 times a day and/or a very inexperienced manual transmission driver. I could be wrong though. There are instances when cars have had issues completely stock. However, that goes along with any performance car.
Wether I like your car look or I don't, really doesn't matter. I will respect how you do the look of your subi.. Mine is catless 656whp 2011 wrx with some tough stickers..
I love that you point out stage 2 NEEDS fueling upgrades cause those (650?) cc injectors are depleted with the quickness and wonder why shit blows up. Good call - I really don’t know why there’s not a lot of resources covering this
The 2015+ STI tolerances are a bit higher than previous gens. My stock injectors are nearly maxed with a stage 1 tune and intake. Just adding a down pipe would completely max them out and would cause serious issues. Fueling is a MUST if you go over stage 1+.
All I plan to do on my '21 Base is add C-lights, swap incandescents for LEDs, tint windows, MAYBE swap taillights, and maybe swap exhaust. Oh, and rainguards and a rack.
I agree with much of what you said. I like more subtle tasteful mods. Different but it looks stock or that is, something Subaru would have done. I see so many mods that really don't do much or even makes the car even slower/worse. (see mighty car mods videos) Cat-back exhaust doesn't do anything if you keep the small stock headers. It's said you need to increase HP by 15-20% in order to feel a difference and be truly faster. That's a 45-60 Hp increase! You will never use it on the street so don't bother unless you do regular track days. Doing any engine/exhaust mods will need to be tuned on a dyno. To make an STI faster takes a crapload of money. The best way to be fast is to sign up for racing school at a local track.
apparently the auto transmission cant be tuned? its apparently to fragile and all im wanting to get an intake and exhaust on mine and i was told that by a tuner
This is a very clean and simple looking STI- well done! I have a 2020 Type R but I I wish I had looked into an STI before committing to buy so I can feel the difference between how both drives. I don’t like the ugly looking 2022 models. Where can one still find a fairly new previous Generation? Just curious to know in case I want to switch out my current ride. Thanks!
Thank you! Check the used market. Unfortunately, dealers aren’t bringing in many more new ones if any at all. There may be some new ones on the lots though, but it’s slim pickings these days.
Your tastes are pretty similar to mine, keep it simple and tasteful, though if i get one of these id probably stick a sports cat in since ill want it running around the 430 hp mark as well as pass emissions with one.
I personally use manual all the way back (loosest setting). I feel like auto implies that adjustments are being automatically made from time to time as you drive, causing wear on the parts involved with making the adjustments. (Servos and stuff)
if you want to run cat-less just be prepared to cough up money for a pro tune. if you have a good tuner you will be fine. but I completely agree with everything else. pretty car
Absolutely would. But wouldn’t recommend them for a daily if you live in an environment that sees all types of weather. They could withstand it, but it would be a sad day if they got damaged from inclement weather.
@@Autofreakgarage live in Australia so weather is very hot and dry in summer and winter the lowest it gets is 16 degrees. I might get them. BTW i have a dark blue (lapis blue) so i think the carbon will look ok...now to find them. Thanks for the advice i will take it👍
@@Autofreakgarage thanks for the reply man, I'm guessing i should go to a tuner to see if it's tuned for it? Any signs i can tell it's not tuned for that bov
Did it come with an accessport? If so, most likely tuned, but you can run some data logs to send to a tuner to read. You can tell if the car is running rough or cutting if out under wot. There’s a lot of issues that can present themselves when driving. Nothing you can physically see other than the part itself.
Can’t get over how clean your subie looks. I’m interested in picking one up but not sure whether to buy now vs wait for the next gen. but if the next gen sti looks like the leaked images on the web... hard pass.
Agreed! Key words "me personally" "daily driver". For me personally I do have c-light switchbacks, but kept the stock front turn signals as a safety back up in case the switchbacks fail. Couple ques. I see you're married, but don't know if you have kids. Either way how do you go about budgeting & convincing your wife not to hate you for your mod purchases? Also I see you have side skirts & rear spats but no front lip. Personal choice or in between lips? Thx! Fellow Jersey 2015+ GBP Rex driver via the shore.
I try to always say it’s my own opinion anytime I’m speaking about a subjective subject. People take whatever people say as the end all be all. As long as you convey is your own opinion, people tend to accept it a bit better. Yes I have 2 kids. My wife has known me since we were 18 and has known my hobby and what I do. It’s nothing new to her so a few boxes of car parts that show up at the door step is something she doesn’t question haha. She enjoys cars as well so she understands my passion. Yes I was in the middle on converting to the 2018+ front bumper so I stripped my 17 bumper down to stock and sold all the pieces off. Looks like you found my recent video on my kit I’m running. 👍🏻 local. Bennies go home.
Modding these cars seems like such a troubled. I’ve never own on it I’m looking into them. It’s seem like every mod you do you could break it. Do example the air intake. I had a genesis and obviously my first mod was the air intake and I never had an issue. Is modifying this car really hard? Need help guys
I got a 2014 wrx limited, engine blew up shortly after I got it from the dealership so I went with a IAG Stage 2 block and got it built and tuned what do you think the best next step would be (Currently Looking at Getting the IAG stage 2 kit, and the IAG Front mounted intercooler) or should i upgrade other internals first? I’m pretty new when it comes to Subarus. Just wanted your opinion because I don’t really have anyone else to ask.
@@Autofreakgarage my plan down the road is to push around 400whp but I didn’t know if I should upgrade like the fueling system or just wait until I really need to do it and just get the intercooler and the stage 2 kit for my block (jpipe, cold air intake etc.) and build up after that
I got a 2016 a few months ago. Whoever the previous owner was spent a lot of money under the hood, including BOV. Been wondering if it’s around that 400hp mark at least on e85 since he also did that upgrade as well
Get the car on a dyno and see what it’s pushing. Just because one car made xxx power doesn’t mean the next car will make the same power with the same mods.
Depends what you want to do with the car. Personally, the STI is a far superior car in regards to overall driving experience. Wrx is cheaper to make faster than an STI. But it’s not all about horsepower. STI wins in my book everytime.
Scoobyfreak86 thanks for the response currently looking on buying one but idk if I should get a new one or older model . What’s year u recommend between 2015-2020
Hey Jersey boy. I am also from New Jersey. I’m in South Jersey. Where did you go to get your tune done ? I have that same exact car in the same exact color.
Look I'm 30 years old and you have no idea how glad I am I found a RUclips channel where someone isn't screaming in my face like I'm 17 and offering only "reacts" as content. Keep up the good work and articulate explanations.
Thanks for the support! Just an old fart living out my childhood dreams.
@@Autofreakgarage pirirrrhhrr
@@Autofreakgarage do you use 93 or 91 on it?
93 only
@@Autofreakgarage Hey I can dig it I am 35 going on 36 this year. I will be buying my 2021 Sti in 2 more months.
couldn't have said it better "keep it simple keep it clean". clean whip bro
Something I never realized as a first time subi owner, but i do now. Anything over 400whp is almost un usable on the street. The internet wants us too think 400whp is slow.
After driving a few outrageous cars, one of them being a 2018 g wagon awd with 566 hp and tq and it was an experience for sure. But it’s useless. I think that 300 hp and tq in a car like this is absolutely more than enough. If you plan on tracking the car then obviously then it makes sense, but for daily driving even my 2020 stock wrx is more than enough.
Good point, I live in Norway 🇳🇴 and own a blobeye STI.. its properly tuned, forged internals, spec-c twinscroll turbo, reversed inlet for even lower turbo lag cuz of less piping.. power? 380 hp. Its built like that to last as long as possible, but that horsepower is more than enough on the street.. I could lose my license in a few snaps of fingertips, and going full throttle.. it doesn't take long before you are already at dangerously high speeds, so yeah.. subies are lightweight and dont really need like 500-600 hp to be fun. You want usable power, not so much power that you cant use.
I've got a 550 hp supercharged 5.7L V8 Tundra I daily, it's useable...But the STI has brought me here. Think I'm gonna buy one!
Ended up with a 21’ STI w/ 15k miles on it. Bone stock except the Cobb 3” titanium catback. Owned it one month now, and already spent a months salary on parts. Damn this thing is addicting! Heading for the tuner and dyno this Friday!
03:19 as someone who works with carbon fiber daily, which requires a respirator while modifying it, I completely agree with this. Carbon fiber is super overrated when it’s not used in a functional way.
2004 sti owner here, I’m so happy to see other people with actual taste and clean cars and a functioning brain lol
Your car is your car I reflects on your personality it’s so u can create what u want not what your told
@@adrianvasquez4164 yea but some people should just not be allowed to modify cars, not even talking about cosmetics rn, 90% of "car guys" do the WORST mods and just do shit wrong and then wonder why their car doesn't perform the way they want it to
For one, this is one of the best builds on an STI I’ve seen in a while. I love the mild but super flavorful style like this. For two. Those are the absolute best wheels I’ve seen paired with the lapis blue. Swear to god. Chefs kiss.
Love the way it looks clean. He’s definitely right on people over doing it. Some cars look like they had need for speed mods all over the car.
Just picked up “ new to me STI “ last night ! Thanks for the advice
2011 WRX here. You just pretty much helped me make a decision I’ve been fighting. I have Nameless turboback with their catted downpipe. Love the sound. But I started to wonder if catless was the way. With driving it so much, I’ll stay catted for a while. Starting all my fueling mods and a few other support mods now.
Good move!
Just to add something. I have a conversation with a over 12 years experience Subaru mechanic. The Intake change would not affect the engine. The car have a mass flow sensor. The sensor will calculate how much flow of air and the computer ajust the consumption of gas. The only thing tuning car helps is to adjust to get better performance with what you have or add.
This. Ive run the Perrin intake with no tune for 15k miles with 0 issues. If the change of air flow were enough to cause a problem, you would throw a CEL
I really like my '14 STI hatch, but 100% agree on the fact that it is not the right platform for high HP, specially on stock block. I've done my research prior to starting my build, and come to quickly realize that it takes alot to squeeze power of these flat 4 and a comfortable/reliable number is between 350-380 WHP... of course with a $10k+ budget, a built block would get you that and more.
You’re intake does require a new ecu tune. Not all aftermarket intakes require that same tune.
Found this video after just buying my first mod, a third break light, for my 2019 STi. Thanks for this video.
I don't have any issues with boost creep. I have an invidia catless downpipe going to an r400 catback. But I also run a Cobb EBCS, sf intake, and an AEM 340lph fuel pump with a pro tune. Without the boost controller, yes, boost creep can become an issue. But if you do it correctly catless is fine.
You can run an intake as long as the piping diameter is the same as stock the pcm will do AFR corrections
Other than certain parts of the longblock these Subaru STI's are super tough. I've seen 1000whp cars run multiple seasons on the stock 6 speed. The brakes are bomb, the axles are pretty dang strong, the diffs hold up to a ton of abuse, really is a great platform.
Great video and I agree with all your 5 do not things though man, great video.
Disagree. these are incredible cars to build for high hp. High revving can throw all the boost at it. Either more bread or more knowledge for you my friend. Anything can be fast. And maybe you pay more than an evo or a supra. But that's just pride my friend. Rods pistons ported heads if u want. Fueling and a turbski.
@@pauloquintana2511 Ummm...that exactly what I said, these cars are great performance cars and with the right mods can make impressive numbers. Mine was making 551whp and 561whtq before I pulled the FP Green for a rotated 6870. I'll have it back together next week and we'll be shooting for low 700s on the stock motor (not for long, a built long block this summer will help push it over 1000whp).
what motor?
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I’d rather swap a Honda K Series into this car than try to build the EJ257 out.
WAY MORE bang for the buck!
@@mr.carguy3161 Yes it is cheaper to build a Honda. Making 900whp with an LS is even cheaper and easier. Sometimes it's not about the most cost effective way to make power. The Boxer 4 cylinder is unique and a really cool driving experience.
That's like comparing the I4 in my Honda Fireblade to the V4 in my Ducati Streetfighter. Both make over 200hp but they are radically different in how they make that power and how they feel to operate. Again, my Honda is cheaper to modify because it has one header, one head, one set of cams, etc. while my Ducati has two of everything.
Going CATLESS on the S209, but with all the supporting mods like you said: 1300CC, E85 full kit, TGV Delete, FMIC, and Tommy Kentner Protune.
Good video, good points on not going OD on visual mods. Tasteful is key.
+ ETS V2 headers, EWG, uppipe to manage boost creep
I have a 2019 with a cat back system on and I’ve had zero issues with it. Definitely sounds more like an sti. It runs at a comfortable tone and only loud when you want it to be.
It’s funny how tons of people think that EVOs can run 1000 hp. Well technically they can for like 5000 miles.
A Evo motor can run reliable at 450 hp where in STI can at 400 not that big a difference.
I heard the WRXs, especially the new VB is quite heavy on the steering wheel. It's not great...How's the turning radius and feel on the sti?
At the 1min mark, you talk about needing a tune for a CAI. In general I agree but you go on to say there no way around it…that’s not accurate. I have a 2017 STI with a PERRIN CAI. I’ve had the car for the entire life of the vehicle thus far and had the PERRIN CAI on since like week 2. I’ve never tuned it, it’s my daily/farm car. Runs perfect. Fun fact…PERRIN is the only company that made their intakes to Subaru spec’s and as a result you end up with an intake that doesn’t require a tune. I’ve spoken to PERRIN myself to confirm (4 times, 3 different people). Like I said, in general I agree with the “CAI needs a tune!” sentiment but in this case there is no need.
That is very interesting. I don't want to tune my STI for fear of needing the engine warranty, but this could be the ticket. (Unless the intake has the same warranty drawback)
@@nthgth I wouldn’t know as I’ve not had to take it in for anything since I bought it. Nothing engine related anyhow. I know Subaru can be rough when it comes to that sorta thing but they still gotta prove the intake caused whatever issue you might have. As stated though, I’ve literally had zero issues with my engine…runs like a champ and I do indeed drive it like I stole it lol
@@dreambigaerialimaging9125 cool. Does it feel any different? Or just a different sound? I'd think that if it doesn't need a tune, it doesn't significantly alter airflow so it shouldn't drive differently, but maybe the sound itself can be felt
@@nthgth no noticeable difference in my opinion but I’ve talked to guys that swear it feels like it has more pep. I disagree. Now when I swapped my exhaust out, I felt like it made a little difference maybe. Perrin stands behind the “no tune needed” for their CAI. I’ve checked and rechecked just to make sure. As far as I can tell, they are literally the only one. I never wanted to tune it but wanted it to sound nice and this was really the only way to go when researching the topic. Sorry for taking so long to respond, notifications are off for some reason.
@@nthgth the sound for sure give the impression that you’re movin faster but realistically your not lol.
Hey man I got a question would I need a tune for a intercooler?
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A man of refined taste, I've always said less is more. Here cause I just picked up a 2019 sti!
Side note: the car only has 16,000 kms on it and second gear pulls have a couple dead zones in the powerband, feels like a dirty maf im gonna try that. But it also has me worried the dealership put the wrong gas in, feels like the car if pulling timing at higher boost. If anyone has suggestions i'd love to hear em, gonna run out this current tank of gas and put in the good stuff to see if it helps. Car is stock
Your thoughts are pretty spot on. Too much carbon, and gaudy lighting, yuck. Catless downpipe, definitely asking for trouble, plus smell Lol !
I highly disagree with the lighting topic. I run the OLM Halo fog lights/ with the DRL Bezels plus LED turn signal lights, nothing too crazy. But the car looks definitely more modern. I think the stock look, specially on the front end looks outdated compared to similar cars out there. Either way, I respect your opinion, and your videos are great.
No worries! This is just my version of what I prefer on my own car. I get others have opinions and parts they like. That is the fun of modifying our cars!
Scoobyfreak86 Exactly! That’s why I like this channel so much!
So happy the RS05rrs are here to stay.
Me too!
Love the look of your STI. I agree with everything you said. Mine is a 2017. I’ve had a few minor adds, Invidia Gemini R400 exhaust, which admittedly is a bit loud but too late now. IAG air/oil separator, and the COBB accessport. I was considering changing out the stock turbo for the COBB 20G turbo but I have a lot of questions still. Great video. Thanks. 😊
Love the color, Beautiful ride. I personally agree, less is more, but i do hate the black plastic on my STi so im working on putting carbon fiber in those areas.
I have a 400whp sti full cat less and never have had a problem.
i like how you built your sti. very clean with tasteful mods. nothing excessive
1:03 I have AEM intake on my 2015 wrx without a tune. no issues whatsoever and daily driven for 2 years.
Would love to hook an ap up to your car and see the feedback knock you are getting.
@@Autofreakgarage problem is not the intake. it's the whole stock tune 😂😂😂😂 you'll get the feedback either way.
Hi Scooby, been watching many of your tubes and they are very helpful for STI newbie like me. 100% agreement that keeping clean and simple and enjoy the car the way it was designed to have fun. thank you for your good works
Just recently got a 20 STi. Looking into some mods. I’m just wondering who’s the go to tune for these cars and the best for basic mods like intakes and stuff?
Depends on what you want but Cobb is always good choice for exhaust, intakes, HKS has good stuff, invidia is good, take your pick
Came here to find 5 things I should never do with a wrx or sti.
:Changing the intake without a tune. Excellent.
:Putting lights on the front of your car. Personal preference.
:Fully venting bov, bad. Don't do this.
:Carbon fiber. Personal preference.
:Catless exhaust system. Personal preference. But good advice if you aren't getting tuned.
I would have liked to hear your thoughts on why with these 5 specific things to never do.
1.Intake without a tune is bad because the ecu needs to know what the new Maf scaling is because the metered air coming into the engine is being changed. Therefore your fuel needs are also changed.
2.Swapping your blow off valve which recirculates the air that has been measured by the Maf is bad. This means that if you vent the air to hear that sweet swish sound it isn't going to mix with the fuel that the maf asked for causing the engine to run rich momentarily. You can get an aftermarket bov that has recirculation function kept in. Go fast bits offers an adjustable bov that allows you to partially vent and also recirculate. All the way to fully venting.
3.Catless downpipe can cause boost creep because you are increasing the flow of exhaust out of the turbo and allowing the turbine to spin more freely. The stock waste gate and boost controller can have a tough time managing this. But that also applies to high flow cat down pipes as well. So it comes down to personal preference. If you change the stock downpipe at all you should be upgrading the boost control solenoid and getting a tune done.
4.Too many lights on the front of your car. While completely personal preference, it can lead to issues in the charging system. Having too many things drawing a load on the charging system can lead to issues with engine performance. The more voltage drawn away from your fueling and ignition system the more likely you can run into injectors not pulsing correctly and weak spark delivery. This isn't likely with oem lighting, but if you're slapping those giant light bars on adding rally style fog lights, a sub woofer and 3 amps, you can see how this can lead to issues later on.
5. Carbon fiber. Completely personal preference. If you have the money and want to slap carbon fiber everywhere that's up to you. This isn't something you should never do. If it were me adding one more to the list. Never launch your wrx or sti without slipping the clutch. The awd system isn't likely to spin the tires and you're just going to shock the shit out of your drive train. Also roll into boost after 3k rpm. Don't just jam the throttle in low rpm as it puts a lot of load on the engine.
Super clean Sti, appreciate the content. 👍
Thanks for the lengthy and detailed reply!
with your logic i am very happy i went with a wrx versus a sti. the fa is a great platform and i hope one day i can get to the point i want to get to.
Thank you, I am a new WRX owner. I greatly appreciate your advice!
Feel like a carbon hood looks great with the right color, if it’s the only thing carbon on the exterior it looks great
Hmm… I agree with having an access port and tubes ready.
But.. doesn’t the stock bov leak with even 3lbs of air pressure? I’ve seen so many people take them off new blow into them manually to show a leak
I see a lot of pro racers ride with some of the items you complain about
I prefer a lot of suspension and chassis upgrades first then stage 2 to 3
“For me personally”
I think your advice is for everyday drivers vs race weekend daily drivers
Beautiful interior, looks like a good car for a night drive
My 19 sti is stock other then the Cobb 3inch catback I want to but the Cobb sf intake from what I have read it will be fine as long as I run the ots map stage 1+93 on my accessport and I want to also put the same bpv as u is this ok?
Yea you need a tune with an intake.
Thanks I wanted to tripe check because I see all these videos saying as long as it's a Cobb SF intake and u have the Cobb access port it will be fine so a protune just for a Cobb intake I can't use the OTS map on my accessport?
What’s your opinion on the single exit exhaust on this car? My 2018 sti has the tomei ti titanium single exit with the catted downpipe, I think it looks pretty great and gives a clean sound without being too obnoxious and ricer sounding
What seats are in your car and we’re you able to keep the factory heated seats running ?
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Do not modify your sti if you aren't going to do it right.
And do not chase every last hp, it will end up being unreliable
Agree. Very wise words!
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Love the channel, pretty much the same page with you, keep it clean and don’t over do it, great car
My coworker had 2015 STI. First his trans blew now his engine blew. Barely making 300HP. Too much money for blowbru. He did catless downpipe with tune.
I would love to know what modifications he has on the car when this happened. My guess is he went stage 2 (possibly with an intake and catless) and didn't have any supporting fueling mods to accommodate the increased power.
To blow a transmission on an STI is pretty uncommon. I would assume this fella launched the car 10 times a day and/or a very inexperienced manual transmission driver.
I could be wrong though. There are instances when cars have had issues completely stock. However, that goes along with any performance car.
Wether I like your car look or I don't, really doesn't matter. I will respect how you do the look of your subi..
Mine is catless 656whp 2011 wrx with some tough stickers..
In most states running no catylic converters is illegal
I love that you point out stage 2 NEEDS fueling upgrades cause those (650?) cc injectors are depleted with the quickness and wonder why shit blows up. Good call - I really don’t know why there’s not a lot of resources covering this
The 2015+ STI tolerances are a bit higher than previous gens. My stock injectors are nearly maxed with a stage 1 tune and intake. Just adding a down pipe would completely max them out and would cause serious issues. Fueling is a MUST if you go over stage 1+.
Yes, I recommend doing it all.
2018 sti here catless 360 wheel on E and I live in Florida so I hope I don’t run into boost creep it’s been running fine since I’ve pro tuned it
All I plan to do on my '21 Base is add C-lights, swap incandescents for LEDs, tint windows, MAYBE swap taillights, and maybe swap exhaust. Oh, and rainguards and a rack.
Oh, and an F1 light. GOTTA have the F1.
I said the same thing when I first got mine haha.
I actually love how the rims match the paint on mine, so no plans for new wheels; MAYBE a diffuser, but I don't know if I'd really put it to use. 😄
Spot on video. When less is beautiful, clean spec STI. Amazing job.
Do you guys think I should get a old blobeye or a new STI?
Love me a clean blob eye. But I’ll always recommend getting a new STI over a used one.
Up pipe with ewg to prevent boost creep.
I agree with much of what you said. I like more subtle tasteful mods. Different but it looks stock or that is, something Subaru would have done. I see so many mods that really don't do much or even makes the car even slower/worse. (see mighty car mods videos) Cat-back exhaust doesn't do anything if you keep the small stock headers. It's said you need to increase HP by 15-20% in order to feel a difference and be truly faster. That's a 45-60 Hp increase! You will never use it on the street so don't bother unless you do regular track days. Doing any engine/exhaust mods will need to be tuned on a dyno. To make an STI faster takes a crapload of money. The best way to be fast is to sign up for racing school at a local track.
What suspension are you running? Sitting so nice.
Fortune auto
what about going catless just for the noise? say I go catless and dont tune the hp up too much, would that be reliable?
Definitely don’t do that. You need a tune if you change the downpipe (catted or catless).
@@Autofreakgarage Oh thanks bro 👍 I’m still learning
I think we have the same mindset 😂 keeping it clean and simple 👌🏻
Hey, I had a question. Can I add an exhaust and everything be fine?
Yes, doing just a catback and you’ll be fine.
apparently the auto transmission cant be tuned? its apparently to fragile and all im wanting to get an intake and exhaust on mine and i was told that by a tuner
The cvt is very fragile and most tuners won’t touch it.
Where can I get that spoiler on your trunk
This is a very clean and simple looking STI- well done! I have a 2020 Type R but I I wish I had looked into an STI before committing to buy so I can feel the difference between how both drives. I don’t like the ugly looking 2022 models. Where can one still find a fairly new previous Generation? Just curious to know in case I want to switch out my current ride. Thanks!
Thank you! Check the used market. Unfortunately, dealers aren’t bringing in many more new ones if any at all. There may be some new ones on the lots though, but it’s slim pickings these days.
Your tastes are pretty similar to mine, keep it simple and tasteful, though if i get one of these id probably stick a sports cat in since ill want it running around the 430 hp mark as well as pass emissions with one.
What setting should i leave the c diff on for normal daily driving? Thanks
Auto
I personally use manual all the way back (loosest setting). I feel like auto implies that adjustments are being automatically made from time to time as you drive, causing wear on the parts involved with making the adjustments. (Servos and stuff)
Man I love the way you keep it simple. Nuff respect.. it is true what you say about a lot of addons.
if you want to run cat-less just be prepared to cough up money for a pro tune. if you have a good tuner you will be fine. but I completely agree with everything else. pretty car
I ran a intake on my 16 sti with no tune for 70k miles and no issues what’s so ever.
I have mine about 3 weeks now and I didn’t think I had to get a tune
Me with carbon fiber front fenders and was thinking about a hood🥲
And a catless pipe oof
I got to say lapis blue looks really great! Especially yours! Just a rare color at least where I'm from lol!
Not as common and one of the best things about it!
Looks even better in person, photos and videos don’t do justice
I wanted a lapis blue so bad but a deal popped up on a 2018 black limited I couldn’t pass up.
Like your seats. What are you using?
Recaro sportster gt
Keeping the Carbon Fiber as accent pieces is the way I prefer as well, well said, keeps it tasteful
My mishimoto intake never did that, it did say no tune required soo idk
Hello sir can I have the wheel setup for this WRX STI it have a nice look😊
What about catless cat back and catted down pipe?
sick ride! where did you get the STI intercooler cover? thats a must
It’s from intertek fabrications. However, they don’t make them anymore.
what's that thing called that's on the back of the antenna?
A roof spoiler
@@Autofreakgarage ty sir
Whould you have carbon fibre skirts and lip or do you think it will look crap
Absolutely would. But wouldn’t recommend them for a daily if you live in an environment that sees all types of weather. They could withstand it, but it would be a sad day if they got damaged from inclement weather.
@@Autofreakgarage live in Australia so weather is very hot and dry in summer and winter the lowest it gets is 16 degrees.
I might get them. BTW i have a dark blue (lapis blue) so i think the carbon will look ok...now to find them.
Thanks for the advice i will take it👍
what is your opinion on an air oil separator?
A great mod to do. Pita to install though.
My next maintenance upgrade.
Scoobyfreak86 do you recommend one for my sti? all I have mod-wise is a catback exhaust
Gary Baker do you think it’s needed for a basically stock sti?
It’ll help reliability. It’s not 100% necessary, but will keep the motor happy.
Hey man just got my 2018 sti, and it came with a blow off valve unfortunately.... Am i in deep shit?
I’d be fairly concerned. It could be tuned for it, but even so. A pretty much stock ej25 should not have a bov on it. Asking for trouble.
@@Autofreakgarage thanks for the reply man, I'm guessing i should go to a tuner to see if it's tuned for it? Any signs i can tell it's not tuned for that bov
Did it come with an accessport? If so, most likely tuned, but you can run some data logs to send to a tuner to read.
You can tell if the car is running rough or cutting if out under wot. There’s a lot of issues that can present themselves when driving. Nothing you can physically see other than the part itself.
What is the offset on your wheels? Or what spacer are you running?
+35
Can’t get over how clean your subie looks. I’m interested in picking one up but not sure whether to buy now vs wait for the next gen. but if the next gen sti looks like the leaked images on the web... hard pass.
You might find this video useful. I go over if someone should wait for the new gen or not. ruclips.net/video/qrajb3QDOKg/видео.html
i have a 2018 sti , could i do a resonate delete ??
Sure can!
@@Autofreakgarage what would u recommend i do bc i want it to sound louder
Get a nice catback exhaust. Or even a muffler delete.
Is the Intercooler Guard custom made? I like it....
It’s made by intertek fabrications.
Never get lowring springs and spacers
why?
@@jellyyt5946 get coilovers and wheels with proper offset. Save money get the good stuff and don't be cheap.
Agreed! Key words "me personally" "daily driver". For me personally I do have c-light switchbacks, but kept the stock front turn signals as a safety back up in case the switchbacks fail. Couple ques. I see you're married, but don't know if you have kids. Either way how do you go about budgeting & convincing your wife not to hate you for your mod purchases? Also I see you have side skirts & rear spats but no front lip. Personal choice or in between lips? Thx! Fellow Jersey 2015+ GBP Rex driver via the shore.
Oops just saw your end of video link for the Bayson R lip. 😎
I try to always say it’s my own opinion anytime I’m speaking about a subjective subject. People take whatever people say as the end all be all. As long as you convey is your own opinion, people tend to accept it a bit better.
Yes I have 2 kids. My wife has known me since we were 18 and has known my hobby and what I do. It’s nothing new to her so a few boxes of car parts that show up at the door step is something she doesn’t question haha. She enjoys cars as well so she understands my passion.
Yes I was in the middle on converting to the 2018+ front bumper so I stripped my 17 bumper down to stock and sold all the pieces off. Looks like you found my recent video on my kit I’m running.
👍🏻 local. Bennies go home.
Could I do a drop in filter with my fa20 wrx? Do I need a tune?
No tune for a drop in filter
Okay thanks and it won’t really do any harm?
You won’t have any issues with just a drop in
Modding these cars seems like such a troubled. I’ve never own on it I’m looking into them. It’s seem like every mod you do you could break it. Do example the air intake. I had a genesis and obviously my first mod was the air intake and I never had an issue. Is modifying this car really hard? Need help guys
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Where’s is you tail light made from? Reminds me of the fast and the furious Altezza tail light on the early 2000s.
Subispeed
I got a 2014 wrx limited, engine blew up shortly after I got it from the dealership so I went with a IAG Stage 2 block and got it built and tuned what do you think the best next step would be (Currently Looking at Getting the IAG stage 2 kit, and the IAG Front mounted intercooler) or should i upgrade other internals first? I’m pretty new when it comes to Subarus. Just wanted your opinion because I don’t really have anyone else to ask.
When you get an iag block, the internals are already upgraded. It depends on what your goals are.
@@Autofreakgarage my plan down the road is to push around 400whp but I didn’t know if I should upgrade like the fueling system or just wait until I really need to do it and just get the intercooler and the stage 2 kit for my block (jpipe, cold air intake etc.) and build up after that
@@Autofreakgarage I appreciate you responding so fast 💪
Do everything you need to properly do it the first time. Doing it half way will not yield the long term results you’ll want overall.
Looking for 2015 wrx by pass valve without tune , can anyone give me the link to purchase please .
Grimmspeed
@@Autofreakgarage thank you sir from Malaysia
I got a 2016 a few months ago. Whoever the previous owner was spent a lot of money under the hood, including BOV. Been wondering if it’s around that 400hp mark at least on e85 since he also did that upgrade as well
Get the car on a dyno and see what it’s pushing. Just because one car made xxx power doesn’t mean the next car will make the same power with the same mods.
Hey man what downpipe are you running?
In this video, it is stock downpipe.
@@Autofreakgarage Oh ok. Which one are you using now?
grimmspeed limited
@@Autofreakgarage Is it the best one out there?
yes, it is one of the better options on the market currently.
What’s better getting a wrx that cheaper and modify up or and Sti with slight mod ?
Depends what you want to do with the car. Personally, the STI is a far superior car in regards to overall driving experience. Wrx is cheaper to make faster than an STI. But it’s not all about horsepower. STI wins in my book everytime.
Scoobyfreak86 thanks for the response currently looking on buying one but idk if I should get a new one or older model . What’s year u recommend between 2015-2020
2019 is my favorite year. All the updates. Better looking wheels than the 20 imho.
Scoobyfreak86 thank you
Fellow new jersian!!!
What's your opinion on axle back exhaust ?
For it! Easy mod that will make the car that much more fun to drive.
Hey Jersey boy. I am also from New Jersey. I’m in South Jersey. Where did you go to get your tune done ? I have that same exact car in the same exact color.
What type engine this car has?
4 cylinder turbo
What if we want that blow off valve sound?!!!?!!
Get a bov and do proper supporting mods snd tune.
@@Autofreakgarage love your sti btw I have a rally blue and I want your look. Thanks going to have to do some research it looks like.
What if you have an 11 STI that has 2 cats?
Am I able to take one off safely?
2 cats? The 08+ STI has the same downpipe which is 1 cat.
What's your wheel and suspension setup? I'm very curious. Great looking ride brother.
In this video, Enkei rs05rr and fortune auto coils.