Bryan Kohberger’s lawyers outline alibi night on night of Idaho college murders
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- Опубликовано: 17 апр 2024
- Lawyers for the former Ph.D. student accused of fatally stabbing four University of Idaho students say they plan to use cell-tower data to show he was not near the crime scene at the time of the murders.
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So his alibi is that he turned off his phone during the killing?
It doesn't work that way lol
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No. His phone lost service because he was in an area where there isn't good cell service. But experts can prove it still and I guess they're going to...
However I have always thought that the murders happened earlier like they originally said. What if that's the case and bryans "alibi" is "proven" because he was actually ditching evidence in a secluded area just after the murders...
Huh?
No, the alibi is that he was driving alone at night and not in the vicinity of where the murders happened and they have an expert witness who will testify that the cell phone pings prove that he wasn't in the area when the murders happened (ie. the white hyundai caught on camera was not his white hyundai).
@@Chad_Max yeah everything is a coincedence..the dna, the car, the phone pings. 😂
Are they kidding?? We’ve waited all this time for him to claim he was just driving around, looking at the stars and moon?? Get on with the trial! If his defense team isn’t ready, it’s their own fault!
This trial will draaaaaag on forever.
@@davechristopher6462
Because the female Idaho professor is completely involved
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@@thechiefwildhorse4651 how is she involved??
You do know they specialist who is willing to testify has testified over a 100 times for the state and never for the defence. Maybe look him up.
Most big trials like this take years...hold ur horses cowboy.
BS!!! He's smart enough to plant his phone in the park FOR AN ALIBI where no one would find it!!!!
And how would he do that lol. 2 days ago all you guilters called him to stupid for turning his phone off. You all change your narrative very quickly
@mirrrie The same way, the stepmother in the Gannon Stauch case left the cellphone at the pet store and came back and retrieved it. The same way Fotis Dolis left his cellphone home and had a friend from Greece call as an alibi.
A PhD student of criminology who would use his own phone for a murder? And, drive his own car to a murder? He must have failed Crim101.
That alibi is flat out laughable 🤦♀️
It's insane that he thinks he is smarter than anyone in the room. He's about to learn a valuable lesson.
He ruined his own life. He has no one else to blame, trying to feel something because he doesn’t feel.🙁🙁🙁
He really does think that you can tell. Sorry to say just the look in his eyes tell what’s going on inside… he’s bad off
He should have learned it by now. Our courts and prosecutors are pathetic.
They haven't said it yet but they obviously have time stamped footage of pictures he took that night that would definitely need that he was not murdering...
Pinpointing the phone is not pinpointing the person.
This kid's been gaming the system since before the murders. He's a criminology student familiar with rules of procedure and evidence.
He’s thinks he’s smarter than the police… don’t believe anything he says… he’s a criminal studies graduate. He thinks he can beat this with he’s bs
@@cjbeaty9863
So did the Female Idaho professor who's husband was involved with one of the girls
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look at you, you too must be well informed, seemingly spending so much time with your nose in it to have such an opinion. How do we know you didn't do it?
Yep but witness saw him walk by door 🚪 in home 🏡 of murd....
And he still got caught.
Ridiculous. They all know he is not getting away with this.
I think he actually might. A friend of mine is a public defender who has gotten people off with more damning evidence, and tells me the evidence isn’t ironclad.
He did not do it, his phone location will prove it.
He is a psychopath
That is what the prosecution and media want you to believe. There is much to come out in this case.
@@chrisazure1624you must be a relative to him. "He was always a good young man and wouldn't hurt anyone"
@@beewalk34 Not at all, but I have been following the case beyond the pablum served to you by the media.
Not really. Psychopaths are generally career criminals who don't have an education and can't hold a steady job. You don't really find a psychopath with a college degree let alone one in a PhD program...
@@beewalk34 it’s funny you say that tho, he did always want to be like Walker Texas ranger. The good guy. That’s why he studied the minds of atrocious ppl, so he could learn their similarities. This is out there to be read as well but no one wants to on the guilty side.
That’s a horrible alibi
Maybe, but it is a challenge the state will need to address with a strong expert. Right now the defense has him outside of Moscow and has an expert to testify based on data.
It is a bad albi for a Single man without family and friends in New areas?!? Think about it. If his phone data can be proven and also stated pictures were taken from his phone of the areas. Time stamps and dates can clear him and his tracker GPS. He could have a family member on his tracker. It's an app for many Family users to track each other.
They use cellphone data to convict people so they can use cellphone data for an alibi
Idk, I think he's guilty based on other evidence, but I think it's a good alibi given that he has proof he did drive around at night on occasion. I did similar random night driving when I was in college and bored too.
@themartdog His DNA was found inside the house. Unless the defense can get that evidence thrown out he’s cooked.
They can't say he was on foot, since his car shows him leaving his residence.
He is right in his element. The courtroom for murder trial. This is what he's been studying for his whole life. Criminology. He wanted to get into the thick of it.
Into the thick of it…..into the thick of it…oh.
Just because he was studying criminology doesn't mean he's a killer
@@Kevin-pr7ii ha! you may have something there.
Stephen, I agree. His doctoral dissertation will constitute the "thick of it."
Anne Taylor, too, is in the "thick of it" as she and BK sail into the true crime
history books.
Being a lawyer should not be about fabricating evidence.
The state is good at that. Ask Chris Tapp oh wait after they wrongfully convicted him he sued them for $20 million then he died. They destroyed his life. This state and their legal system is a joke.
It was so convenient that he was 20 miles away, and there was no data when the murders happened
There will be data from his phone, gps location proving he is not the murderer.
@@georgewashington3555 lol. You're going to be very, very disappointed. No idea why the incels are so desperate to defend this guy.
How stupid does his lawyer think people are?
He wasn't driving he was traveling
Right & I’m a friggen princess!!!
He was rolling and they hatin.
@@cjbeaty9863you missed the joke - "I wasn't driving, I was traveling" is a defense that sovereign citizens try all the time to use in court.
@@SRockwell@cjbeaty9863 you missed the joke - "I wasn't driving, I was traveling" is a defense that sovereign citizens try all the time to use in court.
@@SRockwellhaha 😂 they tryin catch ridin dirty!
This guy is as guilty as guilty can get period
Proof?
Critical think much....??
@@KP-zj3zjwell, they're being critical and expressing a thought soooooo...
@@SRockwellyou keep asking for proof from peopl on the internet holding an opinion of guilt. No matter what the level and amounts of evidence there happens to be, the guilty verdict can only be levied in a court of law. So asking for proof of guilt from someone on the internet is simply being childish. Especially since someone could ask you where's your proof that he isn't.
@@mattmarzula ...first day on the interwebs?
Hilarious. His car was seen repeatedly in the area, the cell phone data and available security cameras confirm that, he was attempting to hit on one or more of the victims on social media and his DNA and fingerprint were found at the scene. He never walks free again. He dies in prison.
No there has been seen a car simular to his. You know there around 1300 of them around moscow Idaho? And touvh dna is not the same as direct dna. You are spreading miss information which can get somebody executed. If he did it so be it but you are spreading false information
😂😂😂 it is crazy how they tried to swing it with all the fake stuff, makes perfect sense that some won’t think a bit because they did paint a good story until you read it yourself!!
LOL this is exactly why its difficult to find an unbiased jury b/c most of the public has an average or slightly below average IQ. The info you've put forth is a mish mash of media theories. I didn't find a single shred of fact in your comment...
The defence only needs to create doubt. Remember OJ.
@@MrPlusses The OJ case was almost 30 years ago. Pre DNA testing. Pre cellphone towers pinpointing people's location at all times. They have his fingerprint at the crime scene and they have his DNA there. The jury won't even need a lunch break on the first day of deliberations.
Weakest alibi ever
did you read it yourself? they state that the car 'spotted' in the prosecution's arguments was not his car and they have the evidence to align his actual car in a different location. THe news left that out
@@Charles-Darwin yeah sure they do just like OJs glove was "planted." Imagine beleiving those lying scum lawyers 😂
@@Charles-Darwin He was "stargazing"
So they literally have nothing in his defence. Naturally, because he's guilty. What a psycho.
Let's wait and watch. Let procedure be follwed.
Could that be where he dumped the knife and bloody clothing?
He was just doing some sight-seeing late at night. You know, looking at the moon and stars. Sounds legit.
Especially since it was a cloudy, overcast night and he couldn't see the stars anyway.
How long is this damn case. Dude is guilty and crazy AF
Why bring the phone? Amateur.
Does he honestly think that, that alibi is going to prove anything ? I think it's funny how he thinks he is smarter than everyone but comes up with the dumbest alibi at the same time.
Why do we listen to this drivel from him?..Nobody else would have done it…and then there is the knife sheath👀
The evidence they have is not sufficent to prove he commited the murders.
But it’s looking like it’s more than enough to make it beyond a reasonable doubt. And that’s the standard; not absolute proof.
If I were on that Jury, it wouldn't be enough reasonable doubt. He could have hiked/jogged all the way over there...🧐intending to throw off the investigation
Wtf are you talking about
Good thing you are not on the jury.. Lets hope the actual jury is not so dumb.
Well hopefully whoever is on the jury is smarter than you!
Didnt the police find a knife sheath with his fingerprints on it inside the murder scene?
Not finger print. It was touch dna.
@@barbarahedges6618Right, which means practically nothing.
@@barbarahedges6618 Means nothing, could be there days before from theft, loss on property etc.LOL, if was stolen, or lost WILL Be "out of place" .
Yeah they did, it had DNA on a spot that immediately corrodes DNA, also why not ask “ if they found a sheath with DNA, how come there isint more DNA or even cross contamination anywhere else”. The fact there is no DNA elsewhere makes one think the sheath looks out of place
Goodness. I was just answering her question.
He could have been hiking right up to the victims home and then committed the crime. The previous pictures were him making his preparations. Period
This guy is guilty…
Proof?
@SRockwell His DNA is on the bloody knife sheath left at the crime scene for christs sake. You think someone murdered 4 college students and planted some rando's dna there?
@@SRockwell
His DNA is on the knife sheath.
A car just like his was at the scene
It is POSSIBLE but extremely unlikely that his DNA could have randoml,y accidentlly been on that knife sheath
It is POSSIBLE but extremely unlikely that the real killer had a car just like his.
Those two things happening are BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT.
That is proof.
What proof do YOU need?
A video recording of him committing the murders??????
@@OldGuy555 ...you'll see...it'll come out in the trial. We Idaho peeps have more info than most it seems. For starters...its been proven the car on vid wasn't his. His cell phone places him in Washington at the time of the murders. The sheath wasn't at the crime scene originally. It magically turned up days later. Touch dna is notoriously faulty. There are now 3 timelines. Three separate crime scenes. Just wait till the trial.
@@OldGuy555 people have been convicted on much less..the fact the state hasnt cut a deal with him tells us they have ALOT on him and they are not worried about getting a conviction.
He was running and hiking at night? And his DNA got in the crime scene how?
Even if his phone wasn’t at the crime scene it’s not permanent attached.
Maybe he left it in his car, miles from the crime scene and walked.
So he put the cell phone on a dog and left it in the woods to establish an alibi
How embarrassing for the state and the lying media.
If they have camera footage of him walking from his car or back from the house at time of the murders....wow.
Guilty as F
Proof?
@SRockwell his face
@@jool7793 That is not proof. That is bias.
@@jool7793 ...dats rashist
@@SRockwell The state has a ton of proof thats why hes sitting in a cell with no bond hold 😂
😅so he left his📱where he wasnt going to be. then went back and got it. so he could have it as an alibi. Or he had ot with him, but just shut it off before he went there, because he knows left on it could be used to track him. Remember, he planned this.
So you think he planned this? So can you explain me how he killed 4 people who at least 2 were fighting back , in 8 minutes
So true he was a he knew about things like that.He could have said his phone down went over there, killed her.And then went back and picked up his phone.He knew he was setting up his alibis.He's guilty.He's guilt to his health
@@davidmayerderothschild3040 he was "looking at the moon and stars and stuff"?? It was a new moon then, so no moon to see. Just dark. Plus it was cloudy overcast that night. No stars. Nothing to see.
They are missing a real killer while concentrating on this introverted smart PhD man. If psychologist evaluate him, it is obvious that he is not right person.
They bungled the case and have the wrong person/s. They have no evidence and the 'evidence' they think they have is disintegrating right in front of them.
Sooooo did he forget dna on the knife sheath? How'd that happen 🤔
YOU GOT TO BE KINNG RIGHT? Who would ever believe what they said he was doing,, No way in hell because that is not normal even to a insane person,
What’s not to say he did the random drives before the events so he could use it as an excuse? And took the photos? It was cloudy the night this happened. Not likely he was out stargazing that night. Also. How many small white sedans are in that area with only a rear plate? He changed from PA to WA plates (double plates) after the event…
It was also a new moon so no moon to see and extra dark for hiking
@@jennifergale5306 ohh interesting! I didn’t know that. But I looked up the weather for sure and it said it was cloudy that night. And it usually is during winter
@sarah Best comment so far. Things are much simpler than people think
@@Flonick21 yes! You can drive around and take pictures for months before. It just means he was planning ahead even more. I’m curious how this guy came in proximity to the victims and when the “random night walks/drives” began. Sure we all do them(I night drive often) but I really want to know about the cell data etc
Looks like premeditation... airplane mode? 😂😂😂
If you're just out driving around minding your own business, why turn off your phone.
I'd be interested to know what the weather was that night amd if it was cloudy. It also doesn't answer why he came back later that morning, and why his DNa was at the scene.
He's guilty as hell he admitted to one of my buddies that he did and he didn't know what to talk to, but he admitted to my buddy that he did that on the night because 1 of the girls made fun of him. His guilt as sin. That monster killed those people
Bs
Sure Jan 😂
Dude was dumb enough to leave his phone on him when committing the murders, anyone with any knowledge of police procedure for last 2 decades knows that cell phone data is the first thing they check.
Alibi my a$$. What a travesty for the victims and their families.
Why wait so long to talk about the alibi? I think they've been assembling evidence and seeing what story they could come up with that seems consistent. If the story is true and is strongly supported by data evidence, they would have shared this info a long time ago.
Well, its not true. If you watched the video, Idaho law requires that he has to tell them what his alibi is. It was the deadline for the alibi, so the defense made something up, because they had to make up something because he has no real alibi.
This guy was out at that time. That's all he parked car. Ran back or drive. He s guilty.
Have little to zero faith in our legal system and think there's enough to support it being common for them to railroad innocent people.
However, this guy is guilty. I do want to see the case but no innocent person calmly proclaims they trust the legal process and will be proven innocent.
Actual innocent people, along with many guilty, freak out and don't trust a system charging them for a crime they didn't commit.
His response when arrested is that of a guilty person that arrogantly thinks he can beat the charge.
I’m stoned and even I know that title doesn’t make sense 😂
i can drive 20 miles of country road in 10-15 minutes without really trying...
20 miles in 20 minutes would be driving at 60 mph. So to do it in 10 minutes you would have to travel the back roads at 120 mph. Would you like to double check your math?
@@buckshotbeulah no i wouldn't.
@@InLieuTube its not bias. its a statement of fact.
@@jscotthatcher380 It’s math not meth.
@@buckshotbeulah ok? what is your point? do you think it is impossible to drive down a country road at 100 mph? what is so hard to believe about it?
25 years ago i routinely drove at those speeds in the middle of the night, no drugs or whatever.
How can his phone data prove where his body was?
Innocent until proven guilty -- all you commenters. We really think he snuck in, killed 4 people with hardly a scream, and got himself home with no blood evidence on him, the car, etc. I can't explain the DNA on the sheath but that's like all they have
Murders sound like drug hit. Explains why no one saw or heard anything, and the delay in calling cops..
Exactly. The state and the LE know it, too, but it would mean the dissolution of the university and the town that relies on that institute.
His alibi is a joke. He turned off his phone. His car caught on camera. His DNA on the knife sheath
The defense is based on trying to create "A Reasonable Doubt"
It proves his cell phone was 20 miles away not necessarily him
He drove around at night previously JUST SO THAT HE COULD SET UP A PATTERN!! he was not "driving around" that night, he was busy stabbing those 4 people........ HE IS GUILTY. there is no question about it.
Still lacking a motive. It will be difficult proving him guilty, such shallow evidence.
stargazing, while driving, at 4 AM is the alibi?
Guys crazy. I sometimes take the scenic route on my commute. But not at night. You do it to look at the trees and fields. Countryside night driving to replace nature hikes is unbelievable. Brooding in the dark watching the lines go by is more like it.
He's not guilty, but he's opting to sit in jail for years until his trial
I don't think it's an option. They're keeping him there. They could let him out until his trial, I mean it's innocent until proven guilty.
He doesn’t have a choice … he’s being held without bond … he’s most likely a flight AND suicide risk and they won’t have any of that
@@AliceBowie Thats just a bullshit saying...if that was the case he wouldnt be held on no bond.
I would like to know if it was cloudy that night...
Over-explaining as criminals always do, he said didn't have time for his regular hobbies, so he drove all night stargazing. I think he and his ridiculous attys underestimate the amount of EYE-ROLLING this will get from jurors ANYWHERE. LOL!
Being that I live in this area I find I hard to believe he was just going out for a hike in November at this park. Winter season wouldn’t allow you to just go out for night time hikes to view the moon and stars. This guy was out trying to cover his tracks.
Did kohberger retain Ted Bundys lawyers????
Becuase at that time their entire network was down .for a few hours
Maybe his phone wasn’t with him.
Maybe, but the state has suggested/claimed it was with him so if they now use the logic the phone wasn’t with him, it will be a challenge.
You don’t leave your phone at home, especially if you are out driving in the middle of nowhere.
@@InLieuTube great point
Why is this case taking so damn long? Good grief!
Because they want to get it right … a lot riding on this and these things take a very long time. They owe it to the victims and their families not to rush this
Expert testimony, you mean the guy we paid.
100% proves hes inacent
You wouldn't believe how many mass murder scenes I've driven through, while trying to do a completely normal night time star watch drive.
I call BULLSH$T....!!!
I guess if they can lie about OJ, they can try again
I’d fire those lawyers for even bringing that bs up.
As the defense? As the person who likely orchestrated having his cellphone somewhere else for the deliberate purpose of this very alibi? That doesn't make sense.
Alright, but I'd also love an explanation for his DNA on the sheath left in the bedroom
Isn't this supposed to be played out n heard during the criminal trial that hasn't started yet?
"he was looking at the moon and/or stars"
ayo wtfh!?!?
New moon that night, plus it was cloudy and overcast. So no moon, no stars that night.
I really hope someones smart enough to pull all his cell phone pings including the night runs in Pennsyvania.. and why he always shuts his phone off . And I hope they search that park area for evidence. Since he had to tell you where he was supposedly at. At 4 am 😮
This is a joke defence. Cell phone data only tracts the phone-not the person.
Why are we seeing arguments presented between prosecutor and defense regarding evidence at this time? Have the court proceedings started? Both sides have their case and evidence ready for trial and there's no arguing against evidence to be presented in trial before the trial.
How is it that they can argue or dispute to disprove each others evidence now b4 trial when that's to be done during the trial?
"I don't always go star gazing, but when I do I make sure it's been recently foggy and currently cloudy for the full affect!" Seriously go look up the weather for that night... Cloudy and foggy early morning on Nov. 13th 2022....
Shocking!
What is 20 miles in a car? How long to reach the crime scene? It is near enough - he did it.
No .. just because it was pinged doesnt mean it was in the right location. It doesn't ping your exact location liar
Makes me think the time of the murders is wrong then. The original time (around 2 in the morning, is when they originally said this happened) is probably accurate and his "alibi" just proves he was in a "remote area" ditching evidence, maybe? I would definitely go to the location he says he was that night and look for the knife or any other evidence if i were them.
The first thing I told soneone is that the reason Anne is trying to hold off his alibi is because as soon as he gives one, they will try to change the timeline. Thanks for proving me correct.
A few holes in that story... plus he's a smart guy who might have done those night drives as providing an alibi 🤷🏻♂️
Wait, but I thought he sorted his trash in his boxers with gloves on in the middle of the night. Not driving around to go hiking/star gazing...
There is a Text Message that tells everything about the Sorority committing the murders.
In Albany Ga we've recently had a shooting near the local university. Which is scary so much going on in the world nowadays.
So he dropped off his phone miles away before the murder.
This guy looks evil
Hw is f....... evil the b.......
Koburger too slick for Stuffinopolos, ducks and dodges, slips and slides - too fast for him.
Have you seen the alleged video evidence of Kohberger’s car in the general vicinity of the house where the murders took place? The videos which were taken by surveillance cameras outside business establishments along various roads in regions where pings allegedly from Kohlberger’s cell phone show white blurs from which the make or year of the car cannot possibly be identified. I own a white two seated sports car, and if my car had been captured by one of the surveillance cameras the image captured would be the same kind of white blur. Your reporter is either incompetent or disingenuous in reporting what he did.
zzzzz...the dna, the phone pings, the car and much more. It paints a pretty clear picture that hes guilty.
Cell records also place him driving around the house at the time of the murders. A neighbor's ring camera caught his car on on a video.
Ok I am a little confused is even the suspect or not
lol.. pictures of the sky from days earlier yeah thats not guilty to me! he was just watching the stars in the middle of a cornfield
If he's not guilty the truth will come out in court, bc the truth usually always comes out.
If he had a real alibi why would he wait this long in jail to disclose?
Bingo!!!