Reading Your Unpopular Drag Race Opinions
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:31 DRE has success because it doesn't cater to international audience (agree)
2:13 US queens shouldn't be heavily featured on VTW (disagree)
4:14 Season 7 has overlooked queens and lipsyncs (agree)
6:00 DR needs to do a better job teaching history of drag (agree)
7:41 DR is a vessel to worship Ru and it's bad because of that (disagree)
8:57 Fashion queens who can't make their own looks aren't fashion queens (disagree)
9:38 Rita Baga gets too much hate (agree)
10:16 Drag Kings should be on DR (agree)
10:56 Young queens lack personality and drag knowledge (disagree)
12:30 Akeria is underrated and was eliminated too soon on AS6 (agree)
13:06 Stanning underrated queens doesn't make you special, Trixie and Katya are great (agree)
13:51 Chad is the most underrated winner (agree)
14:39 UKVTW is the most realistic feeling season (partially agree)
15:37 The show is changing and production doesn't help the queens enough (disagree)
16:57 Maddy Morphosis was treated poorly in S14 (agree)
17:39 Yvie and Willow only had one win bc production didn't know how to celebrate their drag (disagree)
18:27 Not every queen is going to be nice, fans don't have a pass to be mean (agree)
19:39 Production should give queens a stipend for runways (agree)
20:29 Rock M Sakura would destroy all stars (agree)
21:45 Mimi was unfairly attacked in AS1 (agree)
22:25 _____ should've won x is a dumb argument (agree)
23:01 Ru isn't a good performer (disagree)
Another unpopular opinion: The judges calling a queen’s drag “costume-y” or “crafty” as a bad critique is classist and ignores the messy roots of drag. Also Michelle totally gaslit Chi Chi (rest in peace) when she said “you don’t need money, girl”. Cause she did, and it’s even worse now.
1000% agree
If divine went on drag race they would call her “costumey”
this comment
I disagree to a certain extent, because a look can ABSOLUTELY be too costumey and we alll know when it brings a look down. Plenty of queens who have money have been accused of being costumey as well. Maybe its all in how the judges say it though.
Gurl you don’t need to put ‚unpopular opinion’ when you are telling a popular opinion…
Michelle telling ChiChi that you don't need money is the biggest bullshit ever. Every season now is almost entirely about who has the most expensive and elaborate gowns/costumes on the runway.
THIS!!!! You don’t need money to drag, but you most certainly need money to do drag race. Like RuPaul yelling at Joe Black for wearing an H&M dress really disgusted me, they had just gotten off from not working for seven months and having to deal with a pandemic. So obviously queens have to resort to cheaper solutions.
Well she said that in season 8, when the show provided resources and wasn’t as big as it is now.
@@Masonsmusings that pissed me off i was like ok mama ruuuuu if you think you can tell them what wear or how much spend money on lets seeee get your damn fashion desinger to give all queens free dresses or give your dress you have on and switch it exactly
@@Masonsmusings you do need money to do drag
Yes! Or it's about whoever can sew the most expensive looking/fashionable clothes and lipsync well
An opinion that is actually probably popular: WOW should invite queens from past seasons to guest judge. that way there would be more diversity (in terms of age)
Not only diversity but a better understanding of drag as a whole. Sometimes judges will give boring, meaningless critiques or even worse straight up insult the girls (like Raven Symone in AS2 with Adore).
Ru is way to narcissistic for that. I love that Supremme often has drag queens as guest judges on DRES ☺️
@@germandarling123 Todrick Hall is a drag queen he was a main judge.
@@demeliou3844 Okay, but Todrick's main thing isn't drag, is it? It's dancing, singing and being on TV (I'm not a fan of him and I'm not from the US so I don't know him very well). Plus, he's never been on the show while in drag as far as I remember.
I'd LOVE this but seeing how massively upset everyone is at Brooke/Nicky being judges I feel like anyone who's a guest judge has a lot to lose in terms of fan reception
The latina queens are terribly misrepresented on the show because the show wants them to fill the box of "spicy latina" and if they don't they're thrown away or overlooked (Denali or Alyssa).
FOR REALS OHMYGODDDD and the language barrier is really painful to watch as well, seeing queens like Cynthia and Yara struggling on their snatch games.
Also, Alyssa trying to show them something different for the talent show, I get that it was maybe a little too early for that but she could’ve at least gotten some points for trying something different, right out the gate, it shows her commitment to be versatile. also she straight up did not deserve to be eliminated on that episode. Alyssa was not good don’t get me wrong, but imo Orion was worse than Kerri (who in my opinion was at least a bit funny) and had a superior runway to both. i think it should’ve been orion vs alyssa, with alyssa most likely would’ve stayed. Kerri was never gonna get sent home wearing a Versace gown, moneygun failure or not, but she should’ve been safe/low
omg i thought you meant alyssa edwards and i was like since when-
and lil kenya michaels
1. some of their critiques begin to boil down to not being as good/polished as valentina's "latina drag" especially when making references to the culture. ex; Vanjie getting dragged on fashion photo review for not doing refrences as well as Valentina ""We've seen the latina thing before by valentina and she did it better"" But youd never hear anyone say anything abou how weve seen the same recycled drag that thin white queens get away with every time
2. the ONLY latin reference even tolerated is Selena causing good performances like Alexis's Walter Mercado to be completely overlooked
3. I could see Drag Race Mexico or Drag race Brazil being light years more successful than many other franchises but we see little to no interest from the show to expand south of the U.S.
I feel Asian performers get kinda type casted occasionally on the show. I feel like there’s the quirky/artsy Asian or the pretty Asian.
As a drag performer myself, it definitely leaks out onto the local scene occasionally with Asian performers being seen as Kim chi/ rock m Sakura/ plastique tiara clone by certain audience members. I’m just fortunate there’s a strong Asian community in my local scene.
I don’t think we’ve ever seen an Asian queen get judged fairly, aside from Kim Chi who is just extremely talented. And I think that’s part of why Kim Chi will never be back on Drag Race.
@@stylerxo3654 I mean it’s happening to Raja
@@stylerxo3654 Soju got judged pretty fairly lol
I think Rock was definitely seen by some as a Kim Chi clone, but has there been another Plastique? Or are you saying Plastique was told by fans she was a clone of another pretty Asian queen?
LITERALLY THERE IS NOT ENOUGH ASIAN QUEENS ON THE SHOW, SEASON 14 HAD NONEEEE AND ITS ALWAYS ONLY ONE OR 2 ASIAN QUEENS IN THE SHOW, THE ONLY ASIAN WINNER IN THE US SEASON IS RAJA and like there seriously needs to be more Asian queens fans would call out the lack of diversity only when it comes to black queens in the cast but when it corms to Asian Queens, no one bats a fucking eye, it pisses me off so mcuh
people who are upset that ru doesn’t do her own makeup or outfits make no sense to me because if you were a millionaire I’m damn sure you would hire people to do shit for you too 😭
They also need to realize that post show a lot of the queens don’t even do their own makeup.
@@JayPisces1993 A lot of the queens who have had acting roles outside of drag race have talked about how they will basically just do the contour to get their face shape right and let the makeup person do the rest.
ok yeah but if you are going to parade yourself around as the best of the best, you should play the part, no?
Same for people who talk about how Ru would do if she competed. Like the show wouldn't exist if it wasn't for her. It's HER show. She doesn't have to compete. She's already put in the work.
@@sorbbae620 she has played the part for years and years. Lol
Considering Maddy has spoken out about questioning their gender exploration and identity now that she's been on the show; pinning her as "the straight one" was really dirty imo. Why didn't we get to see that sometimes queer introspection does in fact lead to people realizing they're cis and het, but they definitely went 'through the hoops' in figuring themselves out. Pinning Maddy as 'the straight one' just emphasized the, 'Us vs. Them' conversation we often see between cishet and queer people.
ya we are #2Spirit we also clocked Maddy ENBY
she is straight but also not cis-gendered
most ENBY ppl are straight
part of the T community and a straight one at that
most 🏳️⚧️ women are straight
#queer #gay #lesbian
edit: if Maddy’s gender discovery your took the same direction as ours it was the Egos of everyone else that told us we didn’t conform
we thought it was cause we are also gay
nope also T apparently… and asexual… that also explained a lot
we like to say it doesn’t matter your gender if you’re not cis-gendered the discrimination is the same just different flavours
edit x 2: we’re #indigenous just to Europe
some Aunties survived…
trying to at least
Everyone is always taking about how Raven shaped the face of drag, but it confuses me how nobody talks about Miss fame’s makeup artistry that taught us the “new school” method (creams, color correction, primer/ skincare). And Trixie’s makeup has literally defined a new generation of drag queen makeup with the big eye makeup and the chiseling of the face. I feel like neither of these are ever recognized and should be because both have changed drag a lot more than people initially realize.
saying trixie hasn't gotten her flowers is .... silly. Plenty of people understand that she literally invented that face (and many other chicago queens, and other artists like Kim Chi and Shea early on) attribute the start of their experimental makeup to her. everyone know's that as the trixie face. but I get whatchu saying about Miss fame. maybe because she's more in the fashion world.
Raven was before them
I feel like we should have more drag queens as guest judges- it would really help promote their art and make it a more positive/friendly atmosphere
The celebs bring publicity to the show and expand the show’s profile but I wouldn’t be opposed to an extra spot for tsmadison or a drag queen
@@sungexpression9093 totally agree and love seeing that there are those outside the drag world that really care about the show and the art form!!!
Lol Ru would never let another queen on the panel.
@@sungexpression9093 Do they though? I'm genuinely asking because I'm not American and therefore don't have that much of an insight into the celebrity culture over there, but does a statistically significant amout of people really tune in exclusively for, like, Whoopi Goldberg or Rachel Bloom?
@@alexandrapedersen829 It’s not necessarily that they’re tuning in . I’m sure some people do, but having major names in entertainment on a once fringe lgbt show like the Emmy’s is symbolic of the growth of drag and drag race as mainstream
a full drag king season would be sooo much better imo - any single king casted is bound to be either overtly critiqued or type casted and profiled out of the gate. at the very least they could cast multiple and have a nice balanced mix, maybe even a bearded queen as well.
Agreed
Yes yes yes awoken and living to see this become a realityy
Drag kings are SO underrated and they have been for centuries. It's so nauseatingly stark of a difference between the ruapul's queens world and the rest of/reality of drag because Rupaul's ego has declared that she is the "Queen of Drag" and has such difficulty processing change and the drag world and the full spectrums of the LGBTQ community each as a whole that she has to take 14+ years making her own reality TV show in the limelight to open her eyes to them.
@@ainsleyswartwout2202 facts!! RPDR does a lot of good for our community at large but it also paints a very 1D image of what drag actually is. The world of drag is immeasurable, it's uncontained and unconventional!! And that's what it's supposed to be about! Expression, self reflection, a journey between the binaries and societal norms and expectations. I am very lucky to have been raised up by an exceptionally gifted King to see the full picture. Drag Kings are absolutely unappreciated and it's way past time we changed that!
Another thing I don't see too many people talk about is how stereotypical drag race can be! We aren't all "yas mama werq boots the house down this that and the other" all the time - we're human. We're unscripted. It's such a shame
A mix between drag kings and drag queens would be amazing, I think it might happen in drag race France pretty soon, they were briefly featured in an episode and there is a bearded drag queen as well, I was so pleasantly surprised with DRF, it's bit awkward but the open mindedness is heart warming ;)
@SingingMan That is such, such a dumb excuse. Why is it that afab people can't dare share their bodies, yet with amab it's fine? Even encouraged. This isn't the 50s. If they need to, they can just censor it, even have them wear slips under their costumes.
About the Drag King thing. While I agree that they're talented and need to be in the limelight to represent their community, I would absolutely hate it if Ross, Carson, Michelle, and Ru judge a Drag King. I can already see it. They already went wild on Dusty Ray for putting dots on her face. Could you just imagine them judging something that's just way out of their area of expertise? It's like if X Factor judged rappers. If they want Drag Kings, they should get someone in the panel who's qualified to judge them first.
Exactly. I would rather have a spin off of drag kings judged by drag kings or something like dragula or legendary
Mm! That's a good fuckin point. There still remains so much growth to be had around the entire conception of RPDR.
Rupaul would have to weed out the crappy unhelpful stupid ideas and let a more fair and realistic window into drag blossom.
OMG you're right, it's coming to me all the years they trash a queen for not looking fish enough
i'd love to see drag kings in the main series but you make a good point that there should be at least one judge that knows drag kings as much as the rest of the panel knows drag queens
Agree and disagree. The curent panel of judges already have a pretty limited set of critiques and they don't even respond well to some stuff that are outside of their comfort zones, so yeah, there could be some very sus judging towards kings. On the other hand, drag kings are and have been as much part of the drag scene as club kids or other alternative drag forms. So if they get to be cast on the show despite sometimes the show not receiving them so well, why not also drag kings?
But to eliminate this problem to some extent, i think at least 2 kings should be cast on a season instead of the 1 token king, in order to give some reference point to both judges and the audience and make the critiques a bit more based
Unpopular Opinion: the show has bred a new perception of what a "good" lip sync is; both on and off the show.
The idea that a lip sync needs to be fully choreographed and have flips, dips, kicks and bombs has let so many emotionally raw performances be paid dust in comparison.
A good example recently being Shea v. Monet on AS7 Ep. 1
I wonder what would happen if Latrice vs Kenya happened now. Somehow I have a feeling people would say they both sucked? I know Kenya would get read for taking off her wig but I just think people wouldn't get what Latrice was doing with the song. And they'd probably call her lazy or something.
Also Lady Camden vs Bosco to Don't Let Go, Camden had so much emotion but it is always overlooked for more fast-paced lip-syncs
@@shawnalynn5198 if latrice was in the newer seasons, she would have not got the love she had in season 4 because the fans are more racist, OOP-, and some ARE TOO SERIOUS like the ones that get mad over something lke UTICA'S ROAST and scream racism, both sides are really extreme, why cant we just be balanced y'all? BALANCE IS SO SLAY
@@jayden-everttlinklater8794 yeah I can see that. But as someone who has been watching since the show premiered, I think the fans have always been racist - look at how they treated Tyra. She's far from innocent, she was super immature on her season and has done some truly awful things since then. But at the time, basically all she did was act annoying & shady during the competition, and beat Raven. And she got horrible racism and death threats. Now I didn't care for her myself, but there's NO excuse for fans calling her racist names and telling her to unalive herself. So I think the racism was always there since it was a largely white fan base, but times & social media has changed a lot since then - I mean back then we were still sending tweets via text messages lol. Smartphones were just becoming popular. So that changed the game in alot of ways and basically enabled the fans to make asses of themselves. I do think the fan base has become more diverse which is good.
Anyway I don't disagree with your overall point, we 100% need more balance and reason among the fans! It's crazy to me that people reacted that way to the Utica roast. Do i think we should call out all types of prejudice? HELL yes! Intersectionality is super important. But at the same time I also think we need to do it in a constructive way and no one should use it as an excuse to be hateful to the queens on social media. You can point out social issues without being nasty!
I feel like I had something else to say but I put my phone down for a bit and forgot it lol my bad. But long story short, this fanbase can be awful but I have also seen a good deal of growth from them in the past 15 years. And I think another important point is that this show has gotten HUGE in comparison to the early seasons! I never ever expected the show would go on for this long or get this big. Anyway stan Latrice 💕
Omg
Everyone acts like no deaddrop lipsyncs are so powerful. We barely get splits and death drops anymore and they’re fine when they happen.
Okay I whole heartedly agree that Rock would dominate an early outs season, but can we all just acknowledge she was unjustly put into the bottom for the S12’s ball when at minimum Brita and [REDACTED] had objectively worse looks and Aidan had subjectively or arguably worse looks. Like, especially considering the last category was “Balls to the Wall Eleganza” and Rock’s look was criticized being “too much” despite the category title calling for that.
Yes that pissed me off! I love Rock and I'd love to see her on an early outs season. She is a really talented queen and her mug is sooooo pretty these days.
Yeah sherry was awful
literally i’ll never ever understand how she went home that episode, hers was my fav look!
Also she deserved to win on her first episode. She out-performed all the other girls!
@@0325hjs Now thats delusion.. I hate Sherry but her verse and Jaida's were the best on You Don't Know Me
I really want them to get a different main judge for the UK Seasons. I'm sick of Ru not getting the British drag references, and trying to 'Americanise' the queens that go on UK.
Idk if I’m over analyzing here but continuously hearing the Vivienne in AS7 say how excited she is to compete and win among US queens feels invalidating to UK drag, as if it is inferior to US drag
@@MichelleD2023 wasn't that more about her just being excited to be able to win money though?
what about lady camden? she was runner up just like brooke lynn
@@MichelleD2023 I think she wants to win against queens she admired and who have bigger followings since they’re from the main series
Beating out beloved queens on a us show will get her massive props
I think it’s fine because if rupaul is on the show, they get more viewers which translates when they tour in the us and go to dragcon
Plus wow shows and connections
I'd like to add to the Drag King discussion. The Queens on the show have played King roles countless times now. Like Akeria/ Kylie in the super bowl, Yvie as the Big Bad Wolf (and Boogeyman) , many people for snatch game. Various mini challenges included "Butch Drag".
And RuPaul and the audience does enjoy it when the Queens do these performances. And I hope this will be a gateway to finally casting a Drag King.
Yesss
i feel like any drag king competing will either be judged too harshly or too glorified
It's not the same. Almost all male characters were draged and presented as more Feminine.
I hope they don’t do this unless they change the judging panel. If they bring kings on the show it will naturally just not be a place that properly shows their talent. The judges will pay them dust.
I think there should be a spinoff for drag kings. I don't think incorporating both in the same field is a good idea. Both are valid, yes, but with both of them up there they WILL be compared.
My unpopular opinion: I get tired of 'write your own verse and sing it' challenges. Lots of the verses are similar and it's tough to keep track of everyone, especially in large groups. I'd like it if they could at least give themes to the verses instead of certain queens just singing about how amazing they are etc.
Yeah like 90% of the verses are “I’m a bad bitch, I’m gonna claw my way to the top, give me the crown mama Ru” and it makes most of those verses awful lol
Like the lip sync for the crown idea, it was great the first time, with diminishing returns every time after
unpopular opinion: the “what would u say to little ______” is awkward and potentially traumatic and should stop being done during the semi finals as asking queens and more specific transgender queens to expose that past on live television is something a little to personal and i HATE seeing these beauties cry!!!
The version on Canada Season 2 was amazing though. Where they talk to little Brad Goreski. :P
not rlly but slay
didn't they specifically created that just to have a "what would u say yo little matthew" because they just want pearl to have a traumatic back story?
@@tativoguez can you explain your thoughts?
They don’t use the trans queens deadnames and I don’t think they would go out of their way to be forceful. I think it’s annoying but I also think the queens egg up the emotions to get a reaction out of Ru.
max's elimination was extremely shady, and she would slay an all-stars season. i want her back sooooooooo bad, also milan from season 4 would slay too
sadly Milan quit drag
@@tativoguez she's kinda starting doing it again
@@tativoguez i know, but one can still dream
@@Chris-ot9bk Have they? Last I remember, he wanted to focus on his acting career (I believe he was on broadway?) and wanted to go by his boy name.
@@tativoguez There were rumours that Milan wants to return as a Lip Sync Assasin but not compete
season 7 was the first season I watched live, so it always held a special place in my heart. I was shocked when I got on reddit and found out people hated it because I was under the impression that it was pretty well loved (just because it was MY first live season doesn't mean it was EVERYONE'S first lol)
Season 7 is one of my favorites! I love the cast and actually enjoyed all the acting challenges!
Same thing happened with me for season 11. Although looking back I can see the flaws
Same thing with me and season 13 💀I loved that season (mainly because it was my first) and seeing how HEAVILY it was hated was wild
Sameeee with me and season 10
I loved S7 and I think it has such a great cast
With all Trixie has accomplished I would hardly call her overrated. She's on FIRE!
@Kelly Robinson your name is literally Kelly who are you calling white
@Kelly Robinson ok what is it with this fandom? like this isn't the first time i've seen someone being called a "white stan" because they like a white queen. are we just suppose to hate every white queen?
@@wetsock7790 screaming 😭😭 get her jade
@@wetsock7790 I needed that laugh 😂
@Kelly Robinson the hypocrisy! i love it
I know it's not as big of a deal now, but in earlier seasons where queens would call each other out for their bodies (i.e. hog body, backrolls) I feel like it reaffirmed some of the misogyny based on how drag originated in theatre when women weren't allowed to perform. Like yeah you wanna capture "femininity" in your drag but most cisgender women don't have perfectly tiny waists, large bottoms and heart shaped jawlines. Cisgender women can have muscles, full beards and 5 o clock shadows too! Same thing goes for clothing styles, like when the judges got on Kim Chi for wearing a traditional garment and how it didn't show a "shape". As I said, it's not as big of a deal now but it definitely reflects a lot of gender norms and sexism in standard society.
Another thing that's kind of related was when Milk came on the runway for the RuPaul theme as Rupaul in his suit instead of a gown like everyone else, and they scoffed at it, I personally thought it was sickening and an out of the box take! I understand everyone having their own misconceptions and opinions as judges, but I do wish they were able to say "hey, this isn't for me, but I can understand where you come from culturally/artistically/alternatively"
But gurl they are literally "cosplaying" as perfect women, then tell them to not wear any makeup, any rich cloth, or have any wig, I mean women also don't wear makeup, wigs!!! They are literally serving illusion, they are a drag QUEEN they should keep it uo
This is a really NOW way of thinking. Anything remotely "men have periods, woman have beards..." That's something that's being fought for since the end of the last decade. And I'm so insanely glad it's working! ❤️
But I'm still surrounded by people, even gay ones, who think slightly effeminate males are the high point of awfull, let alone accepting trans people!
Same goes for body image: till 5 years ago "Next top model" still called anorexic, insecure, bones visible everywhere, girls, too fat!
@@GigiM_winx What? Drag queens are supposed to be an "illusion" of "perfect women"? Who says? That's not the point at all, my friend.
and how they will also get on people for not wearing a corset. you don’t need a corset to do drag or win drag race. it’s frustrating and moments like that make me feel bad about my body (i’m “mid sized”) and feel so bad for larger queens or veiw era watching it. and even if you are larger you need to act like you love good all the time like silky and latrice. i love latrice so much but she really had to act up the black and fat stereotypes
I could not believe the judges being annoyed because a hanbok didn't have "shape". Thought I was hearing things.
I think many (new) fans forget that Ru is already 61 Years old, so he can't do the splits or whatever anymore. So what do you expect?
I still think that the choreographies he does are great, especially in his age!
Unpopular opinión: some of the runways in The first season were less specific and allowed more expression and Freedom for the Queens. Like they are running out of themes and then we have such weird runways like the holy couture one
I absolutely agree and I think it wouldn’t be a bad idea to re use some older ones. I would love an evening gown/ballgown runway and a club kid runway so that the pageant queens and alt queens can show off what they do both and also show a different side to them (pageant queens on a club kid runway / alt queens on a glam gown runway)
And not even all queens got the same "holy couture" prompt. For some, it was "what do you worship"
Maddy represents a very important part of our community which are our allies and I think casting her was kind of a silent gift to them
that's great and all but the fact that everyone keeps acting like maddy is a super straight when she's had sex with men as a crossdresser it's a bit misleading in my opinion. if it's how they identify, fine but kinda feel like they made it out to be more than it is
@@kiwisoup nobody would want a "super straight" on the show anyways
@@kiwisoup WAIT WHATTT ?????
She's also just wicked funny and I think the editing made her look much worse than she actually is.
@@kiwisoupYou can experiment and question and sometimes you come out the other side of it still straight. This is just gold star rhetoric for straight people. Silly.
Unpopular Opinion:
But has anyone been spotting that almost ALL *ASIAN AND LATIN* queens are somewhat being mistreated in the show or just a contestant to be eliminated from too early?
I think the Asian queens being eliminated too early and it started after Plastique Tiara (Rock M., Jiggly Calliente as6, Suki Doll and Stephanie Prince, Kahmora and now Raja)
and Latin queens after Alexis Mateo (Yara Sofia as6, Alyssa Hunter and I know that Jorgeous made it to top 6 but I feel like she was pushed by the producers to get there, no hate to her tho)
Like they all have so much to give, yet they were eliminated too early or unfair judging
Asian queens nah I mean many went on go on all stars too and literally got far on on seasons two yeah some didn't but I think it's mostly Latinas
how if your any part of a race or ethnicity you are expected and needed to fill steroyptyes or architypes in order to stay on the how, get screen time. and also how theres not a lot of showing your actual history or culture anymore. and if you are showing it in a respectful or elegant light, you don’t get anything for it. i don’t really care for gia gunn but she is good at drag and her asian performance (i forget what season it was on or what it was called). it wasn’t supposed to be something you scream, laugh, or clap with. it was an elegant and amazing performance and i’m pretty sure she got critiqued for it. and latinas are supposed to be “spicy latina queens with thick accents” or the pretty one. and asian queens are supposed to be either the quirky intresting queens or the pretty queens.
in earlier seasons the judges would make their accents out as a flaw and complain that they weren’t speaking “properly”. I haven’t really seen newer seasons so I can’t say its gotten better.
Rock m was another example of Ru and her judges being COMPLETELY out of touch with the world rn and only knowing their own boomer ass American trends. Any young person with some social media access could clock that what she was doing was a fun whimsical look reminicant of the popular Japanese trend decora. It was cute and made sense for the JAPANESE QUEEN. 🤦🤦🤦 They tell them "be yourself" but then "oh not like that tho"
In regards to Chad, since we don't hear much from them and AS1 is often discounted, even on the show, that's why i'm desperate for Chad to appear on a second winners season. Like with Bebe, I think the newer fandom needs reintroducing to Chad and the powerhouse that they are.
I love Chad and really want her on all winners. But apparently she was asked to compete on as7 but declined
@@JanAside I'm not doubting the validity of this but do you have a source, cause i'd love to hear more
Agreed. Seeing as most queens who were on AS1 got a second chance at All Stars, I think Chad deserves one too.
@@JanAside Chad Michaels is now 51 years old. Are they fierce? Hell yes. Can they keep up with the 21 year old queens who want to treat the runway like it’s a Gymboree? Probably not. Look at Raja. They are 48 and you can very much tell in their lipsyncs. It would be really cool to see them reintroduced to the fandom but it’s taking a real chance messing with their legacy
I think they should do an All Stars - All Elderly Edition - all contestants have to be over 45 or so. THAT would be GREAT TV( ok, maybe not the best title ) lol
My unpopular opinion is Joslyn should've been Miss Congeniality instead of Bendelacreme in season 6 and she's also like majorly underrated. Her losing wasn't even her own fault lmao. And she should be back for all stars together with Max as queens that editing fucked over majorly.
If it makes you feel better, Bianca Del Rio agrees with you.
@@SakariWolf13 omg she does? I've never seen Bianca talk about Joslyn :0
I sort of think fashion queens should be able to do both. Like I’m not too bothered if a fashion queen has people make their looks. BUT I do have more of an issue if they can’t sew or complete an outfit on their own.
Why do you personally even have the ability or possiblity to have an issue ?
Personally I’m tired to see that each season it’s always the skinniest queen that is the fashion queen, like can we have a plus size or even just a mid size fashion queen???
They should cast big queens who can dress then
Lmao not ginger
The unfortunate truth is the world will never perceive anyone above a medium as a "fashion queen" because no high fashion models share their body type. They could dress in full haute couture and still never be seen as fashion because the modelling world doesn't feature them in such a way
@@xviolaa this isn’t true
@@sungexpression9093 you've replied to almost every comment in this thread to try and stir up fights, get a job
why don't you go cast them hmmm?? if the bigger queens don't want them to be labeled "fashion queens" or look queens, it's not the show's fault. It's like you're calling out plus size queens for not being "fashion queens". Like who tf are u?
I sorta wish they did a "senior season" since the young queens are so heavily favoured in the normal seasons.
I would be very interested what they would have to offer instead of pumping out endless "drag babies", as great and talented as those people are too.
the biggest problem with season 7 is that they changed the formula so much. they casted mostly fashion and dance queens and then did mostly acting challenges!
The production design changed too, and of course the new untucked format
god s7 is one of my favorite seasons but it makes ABSOLUTELY no sense from a showing off standpoint because there are BARELY any challenges to show off most of the casts' talents unless theyre a comedy or acting based queen. the fact that there was no ball challenge, 7 of the 14 episodes were acting/improv, 2 were choreography, and 3 were fashion based, and the last 2 were just finale, really just kind of highlights how unbalanced the season was for the cast it had. maybe it was because the last 2 winners were strong in comedy and improv, so they wanted to lean into that, but it just felt so off looking at who the queens were (and so much of the conflict in that season is that they spent the majority of it being partnered in mediocre acting challenges that truly played to None of their strengths except for katya)
it's impossible to dislike katya... literally impossible
dislike ... perhaps, but I don't find her remotely interesting. Not sure why, I just don't.
I don’t dislike her, I like her a lot! But I get frustrated the way Trixie’s success is so glued to Katya. Sometimes, I feel like people are way too obvious about how much they prefer Katya over Trixie.
And if I’m gonna be fully honest, I feel like Katya’s insane popularity has kind of been dependent on Trixie. Katya really doesn’t do anything in her own, while Trixie is fully her own Queen, and does so many amazing things without Katya.
Unpopular opinion: Drag Race has one of the most toxic fan bases out there, and the show does way more harm than good by saying they have “the best fans out there” and not addressing the hate except for the odd werkroom conversation. They are too scared to lose viewers to have Ru look straight to camera and say “this behavior is unacceptable and if you’re doing it I don’t want you as a fan of my show” and because of that, queens are regularly undergoing mental health crises. It’s just not ok.
Fax. Nina said production told them “just don’t look at the comments.”
Then Ru joked about not reading comments on season 12😞😞😞
it's not unpopular to say that the dr fandom is very toxic, because it's a fact. and yeah, your opinion is totally correct
I don't agree with that and I definitely think giving the few trolls that exists any acknowledgement would just fuel them. Idk why some fans act like it's the whole fanbase or even a majority of the fanbase that is toxic. When it's actually just a few sad little keyboard warriors living in there parents basement.
Everytime you act like that it 1. Fuels them to just be more toxic and seek attention.
And 2. Normalizes it for them so they justify there behavior like "well everyone else is doing it".
I would love to see actual data on the amount of actual toxic fans and the rest of the fandom. I have nothing to base this on but Id guess it's under 5%. Tbh I actually think it's even smaller then that.
They’re no more toxic than everyone else
Plus critique isn’t hate
It’s not Rupaul’s job to do anything but host and the queens have the right to not go on the show if they’re that fragile mentally.
@@sungexpression9093 it's okay rupaul we know it's your alt account
Unpopular Opinion:
Sasha Velour seems like standing out when it comes to actually using the crown as a kick start to enabling your own authentic art on a larger scale and committing to it and practically turning your back on the DR brand.
+ Even tho it seems to give Ru a bad wrap, I kinda love it and would like to see more queens doing that.
Sasha Velour is highly overrated.
@@user-ro5iu6br4f Everyone's entitled to their wrong opinions.
It's kinda weird to say that production doesn't know how to celebrate alternative drag and yvie and willow both literally won their seasons. Like I get what they're trying to say about production not choosing *challenges* that would highlight alternative queens, but that also just clearly isn't true considering there's usually a good mix of challenges to be creative vs. polished and stuff.
Drag Race knows how to produce an underdog storyline for alternative queens so they’re careful to not overreward them.
Thats the thing drag race makes it look like Willow, she who must not be named' and Yvie ARE alternatige drag (Yvie is moreso than willow but still) thats the warped perspective that drag race gived to viewers via its casting and the runs of "alt" queens on the show
Drag is an artform best run by transwomen and pepple who are off the wall with their ideas/concepts/creativity in look in performance and in approach to the artform and drag race has limited both so people think oh this is what drag is
Rupauls drag race done fucked up drag
tell that to charity kase
Okay… Having winners be alternative queens doesn’t mean that production DOESN’T know how to celebrate alternative drag. Just look at the amount of challenge wins both Yvie and Willow have. Sure they won, but they were also sidelined in many storylines (this is especially true for Willow), weren’t given challenge wins they deserved (Willow in the roast, Yvie in half the challenges she placed high in), etc. Like, it gets so bad that people say both Willow and Yvie are undeserving winners BECAUSE of their track records not being “the best”. Neither Yvie or Willow had a true “winner’s edit”.
Unpopular opinion I don’t think is so unpopular anymore: Sh*ron n**dles drag was really not all that out of the box💀 she was basically a feminine presenting goth queen nothing much more, and we were just SO used to seeing pageantry that it appeared as a lot more “quirky” or “dark” than it actually was. Most of the time she’s literally just wearing a cocktail dress LMFAO
It was extremely out of the box on drag race during that time.
i mean like you said, we were used to seeing pageantry all the time, which means at that time anything that wasn’t pageantry would be out of the box. so she technically was out of the box?
Her plastic surgery look wasnt outside of the botox... I mean box?
@@stylerxo3654 raja, nina flowers, ongina, and yara came before Sharon and were all outside the box with a sense of style. Sharon was just plain trailor trash (full offense)
if you read alaska’s book apparently sharon was never like a “spooky queen” til drag race apparently she was like a politically incorrect pamala anderson type
Trinity K Bonet should've been in the top 4 of her all stars season ...
That is like, the least unpopular opinion ever
Serena ChaCha was robbed
that's not really unpopular
@@toxicbubble3920 chacharinas rise up!
Not unpopular and also this isn’t a critique in anyway. It’s just the way it went? Same as a saying “I wish Serena cha cha had have won”
Season 7 has always been my favourite season. It's messy but I just loved all the queens on that season.
Season 7 had some of the most talented and popular drag queens in the franchise, but the season itself is mediocre.
Alexis Mateo is one of the most underrated queens of all time. She literally could have won s3 against raja and Manila and could have won as5
I view her as a winner already. She's super well rounded and is one of the most charismatic queens to come through the show. She legit could've won any season she was on.
she was ROBBED in the cookout challenge, I think about the paddling pool train on that dress to this day
I disagree about s3, but agree with as5
@@ZZTopRockman I went on such a journey with that outfit. When she first stepped out I thought it was awful and hated the shape of the skirt, but once she lifted the bottom and revealed that kiddie pool?????? Bitch I was living. That's camp, mama.
I feel like shes not underrated i mean everyone fucking loves her but not overrated ethire
The thing with Maddy was, it felt like she was just the "straight queen" which I really dislike. Imagine if there was a cooking show with everyone that just happen to be straight, then there was one gay contestant and they were only refered to as "the gay guy", which would be hated in seconds. Like Maddy was funny and I would have loved to hear more about his relationship with his gf, how he started drag etc etc. It was toned back with Gottmic when it comes to him being trans but still I notice he's refered to as " the trans guy on drag race".
Agreed, I don't see why we're doing the same things we hate seeing them doing to us. The reaction should've gone more like: "wow, a straight guy on drag race, that's certainly an anomaly. Oh, he knows his history. Awesome, way to fight toxic masculinity. Moving on."
@@laerr ya I would have liked to know him as a person, not just "the straight guy"
This, especially since it seemed like maddy was trying really hard to not fall into this. he didn’t WANT that to be his gimmick but ru ruined it lol
If they didn't see the "straight" storyline to push a narrative on... Maddy never would have been on the show on the first place. Kind of a lose lose situation
@@laerr 100% one thing that alot of gay people can relate to is the feeling of isolation or being different from everyone around you. you know it and they know it, and sometimes they're really not shy about showing that. it creates the same feeling to be the one straight person in the room if all the gay people around you are essentially "othering" you, treating you as the odd one out. nobody likes to be forced to feel that way, and you think a room full of queer ppl would understand that.
i agree that queens that can’t sew shouldn’t be considered fashion queens. they don’t have to make their whole wardrobe of course but if it is a title you can just buy with money i don’t see the point
But being a fashionista is about picking out and styling outfits as much as, if not more than, being able to sew your own outfits. There are fashion designers but when you think of FASHIONISTAS, they all wear someone else's designs. Hell, most of them even have stylists. I do agree that there should be more sewing challenges to force the queens to have to learn and use those skills or face elimination, but IMO, fashion queens who buy all of their stuff are more fashion than celebrities who do the same and are known for their fashion.
(probably) extremely unpopular opinion: its REALLY weird how the show sexualizes the pit crew so heavily. ive always been put off about it and it just feels wrong and creepy
I totally agree, and the fact that they don't even give their name except in the end credits almost dehumanises them.
@@colinlescarret6700 They've used their names quite a few times... also spotlighted them in RUclips content
It also doesn’t jibe with the message of inclusivity they are attempting to make. All the Pit crew stuff seems to be like, “these are MEN, and MEN have MUSCLES and PENISES”
OMG yeeeees
Agreed, the Pit Crew feels really outdated now, there's never really been a reason for them to be there other than for them to be ogled at by the queens and viewers and it's like... what do half naked men have to do with drag?
the whole “eye candy” thing television shows have is problematic and objectifying, the pit crew is no exception.
Yeah the pit crew moments are mega uncomfortable. Can't believe they brought back the burst the balloon thing.
I just can’t wait for the fan drama a female pit crew would bring in case of a drag king edition… and also because I might actually enjoy the pit crew for once
Every time there’s a pit crew scene I also get super uncomfortable. it’s so dehumanizing and awkward, especially since the show isn’t really about it.
Drag shows and go go boys go hand in hand in the club scene. You guys should probably never go to a gay club if you are that uncomfortable over guys who willingly strut around in undies.
i think in particular its the fact that they walk around barefoot that really just ups the uncomfortableness for me. i dont mind the pit crew eye candy thing much because of how it references gay bar culture and gogo boys, but the fact that they cant wear shoes always made it feel a bit more objectifying and mildly dehumanizing.
I think drag kings should get their own spin-off show that's judged/hosted by drag kings. I just don't think they'd be fairly judged by Ru because he's spent countless seasons judging only queens and, well, she's a queen herself and can't relate to some of the experiences kings have. The reason kings and nonbinary artists like Landon and Dahli did well on Dragula is because the Boulets know more about drag than just drag queens, despite being queens themselves. I don't think Ru has this knowledge. As much as I want to see drag kings get more of a spotlight, I don't think they'd be fairly judged on the main seasons of DR. If they are going to feature kings, there should be a drag king as a permanent judge alongside Ru.
ETA: I think it's similar to Ru judging the international seasons where he just doesn't understand some of the cultural references. Because he doesn't get them, he can't judge fairly. I feel like it would be this times 100 if he was judging drag kings
Anyone who thinks that drag kings don't belong in a drag competition should watch Dragula Season 3 because Landon Cider is amazingly talented and was great representation for drag kings.
I met Mimi at a bar in Philly a few years ago and all I said was hi to her and while she responded she groped me and from that moment I have not cared how the show chooses to portray her. It was gross and predatory and I don't think she deserves a platform.
im so sorry that happened to you that's awful :(
😢😢 sorry that happened to you
It's not an opinion, but I don't understand why Gottmik wasn't called out for something they said at Roscoe's (with Violet that was aired the other month during AS7 viewing events). At the Roscoe's events after they watch the episode they have a Q&A with the audience, and someone from Africa asked why the Ru girls don't use their platform to promote awareness of the attacks and murders of queer people in Africa. Violet said a few things, and then Gottmik chimes in with "the dick in South Africa is lit!!" and I don't understand how such an extremely tone-deaf comment went overlooked
My unpopular opinion: Read U Wrote U is not the best cast song. It's not even in my top 5. Yes Katya's verse is iconic but I just really don't like Ru' sample and the other girls' verses 🤷♂️
Agreed!
Yeah! Personally, I think Kitty Girl from AS3 is a better overall song even if the verses aren't as memorable
What is your favorite?
Oh no she betta don't (minus some verses) is a better song overall...
It's still the best in my heart
It was briefly touched on, but I want to bring it up from the perspective of somebody who's active in the alternative drag scene.
One of my biggest gripes about RPDR is that the show casts such an insanely NARROW scope of drag. I like to say that there's "drag race drag" and "real world drag". In the real world, cis women doing drag, trans women doing drag, nonbinary performers, plus sized entertainers, and drag artists that don't just do femme drag are SO much more common than it's shown on the show. It gets irritating as a drag artist, because unless you're doing hyper femme drag and doing a top 40 song, "drag fans" (aka fans of the show who don't know anything about the actual scope of realistic drag) will look at you like you're a disgusting... creature. Drag Race has created a harmful idea that there's a cookie cutter mold of drag, and anything that doesn't fit it is "bad", or of "lesser quality".
I've being thinking a lot how watching through seasons at RPDR Is also watching a man, RuPaul himself, accepting that drag doesn't belong just to cis gay males. We have seen an opening to transwomen and transmen at the show, even cis hetero men, hopefully, soon we could see also cis women. But since the show searchs for a superstar, as RuPaul seems himself, sadly I believe It will never be open about other types of drag.
i think unfortunately this was an inevitable outcome - rupaul's drag race was designed to go mainstream, and that means distilling it into the most "acceptable" form of itself to present to the general public.
well the bible does say that ru paul's drag race has fucked up drag
RuPaul is not everything there is to drag, but he IS everything there is to Drag Race - can't deny that.
Unpopular Opinion: Ru is a good and was a great performer. Think once you accept that there are different styles of lip sync, like Symoné walking but still turning the party, you begin to appreciate that dips and tricks are not the definition of a great lip sync. Ru has been walking in her lip syncs, serving face (specifically mouth) since the late 80's, it's now her signature at this point. Unfortunately her lip sync style suffers because of the show's limited definition of great Drag performance.
This is not unpopular. It’s just fact! It’s not all about the dips and splits. Ru has DEFINITELY been slaying and doing this thing for decades. She is the performer that all the little drag queens emulated which led to the opportunity for you to see your favs on television every week. Hating on the icon is pointless.
IMHO I hope they keep the AS7 format for future all stars. It’s more comfortable for the performers, allows bigger risks, there’s no chance of a single ep changing the trajectory of a whole season (Manila, shangela, Dela) and I’ve seen SIGNIFICANTLY LESSS hate online since no one goes home and there’s another chance to shine the following week
Also just. The whole queens eliminating other queens format is getting boring. It was good for a couple seasons but we are due for a new format.
Loving the AS7 format but I'm not sure if I'd want it for regular AS seasons.
the whole point of an all stars season is to see our favorite queens again, so the fact that no one goes home and we get to see what everyone brought for EVERY runway is soooo nice. i love it and i really hope they keep it.
Yeah, I think that the first half of regular allstars no one goes home while still competing for some point system. The queens with the least points then have a lalaparuza to stay in the competition (heck maybe the top queens can lispync for their legacy so everyone lipsyncs) and it switches to normal all stars rules. The queens will have more time to showcase their talents but we still get some stakes and drama.
all stars is all good and fan favorite queens and I'm always super disappointed to not see more of the early eliminated queens... and then later seeing obvious frontrunners getting the ax. I wouldn't be mad if s7 was the new format although the whole blocking thing I just don't get at all
Yes, mario party rules for all subsequent seasons of all stars. Right now, even the lip sync assassins feel manipulated by production, and they're not even competing.
Producers tried to give Alyssa a villain edit on season 5 but it was overshadowed by how iconic and loveable she is.
I’ve been watching the season recently and I keep noticing them set up Coco as the sympathetic figure and Alyssa, an arrogant nutcase.
Starting with the rivalry, Coco is way more fleshed out. We get to know how hurt she really was after the pageant where as Alyssa was only shown to be offended by Coco. Then in the competition, Coco does well in challenges she doesn’t expect to and turns it out in amazing lip syncs when she fails. Alyssa on the other hand wins a challenge she was expecting to do well in,then was saved by immunity,gets a double shantay with the other villain Roxxxy and sends the fan favourite miss congeniality home.
All of this culminates in them both being in the bottom and Coco slays it,wins the lip sync and thus wins the rivalry.
On top of all that, you get moments in between of the other queens commenting on how self-centered Alyssa can be in confessionals,including our heroes Coco and Jinkx.
It was all very produced when in reality it was just 2 amazing queens who didn’t want to admit both were at fault.
Feel free to disagree but that’s my take.
Respect that but disagree. I don’t think that they were setting up Alyssa as arrogant
i feel like season 5 almost everybody had a villian edit except for Jinkx, Ivy, Honey, Lineysha and Monica
i think the only reason why Alyssa and Alaska we're liked was because Alyssa was very entertaining and faught with other girls who we're villians, saving her and alaska was nice to Jinkx
Question what do you mean they were both at fault.
Like Alyssa didn’t do her duties, but what did Coco do. Did you want her to turn it down and give it to the third runner up or something lol
@@Boss-cj6zn i think the comment about fault was directed towards continuing their rivalry, not the incident that started it. nobody should have expected coco to turn down the crown, but coco also tried to make the issues she had with being the "runner-up queen" alyssa's problem. when she went to her crying because people saw her as the default queen, what was alyssa meant to say?
sure it sucks that people don't see you as the first choice, but that comes with the territory of getting a win that prestigious by default. why in the hell would you go to the person you took the crown from for sympathy because people don't like you as much as they liked her? obviously alyssa is going to feel some type of way about it. coco seemed so badly to want alyssa to validate her win without acknowledging that it was a sore spot for them both, not just coco.
i don't mean to imply that either are "bad people" or that i know how they feel about the situation, but i think a situation that complicated + competitive reality television + a cash prize on the line = the absolute disaster we witnessed on our screens, and i think both were at fault for that result. and of course, i would be remiss to not recognize that they seem to have buried the "hatch", and moved on like the professionals they are.
Raja in his out of drag confessional look on Season 3 is just delicious by the way. Putting that out there. One of the best queens to ever come out of the show too. I said what I said. 💅
Drag race España made me feel like I was watching the fists seasons of drag race but with modern drag, idk how to describe it but it felt way more natural.
tbh I was SOOOO team Gigi Goode in season 12 and I was so shocked when Jaida won.,, then when I rewatched the season and MY GAWD Jaida deserved that crown! I realized that I didn’t rlly watch most of the queens on that season when I first watched it because I was so focused on Gigi…
The first opinion about DRE is controversial. It implies that being something else than USA oriented is not being “international”. USA is not the world.
Agreed! I'm from south america, and I guess we get a lot of culture from spain too, like most of the songs were iconic, and even though it was of course not perfect, it was way more relatable than any US season.
Completely agree. As a European who is not from Spain I never felt like I connected less to Drag Race España than I did to US/UK seasons because there's just as many cultural references that I'm unfamiliar with on the US and UK seasons! People just tend to think of anything related to US drag and/or pop culture as universal when it is very much not that lmao
i'm not from the us but i understand why they call the non-us seasons international because the show originally came from the usa and most of the fanbase is from there
Considering the show originated in the US it is international.
The US is the place the show originated though and that’s why it will be looked at through that lens.
Like Harry Potter is in the UK
my unpopular opinion: Krystal Versace's face scares me just a little bit. She is very talented, her skills are top-notch, and she definitely won her season for a reason, but the way she paints is a bit off-putting to me, and I don't know exactly what it is about it that irks me. Of course, that's just my personal opinion.
Unpopular Opinion: All Stars 1 had the best casting so far. All Stars seasons should be treated as a competition for the best of the best, queens who placed in the Top 3/4/5 or are actual stars outside the show. We are seeing this on All Stars 7 where every queen is amazing (they are winners for a reason, duh) and, thus, the challenge results are also amazing, e.g. Snatch Game or the Ball.
This is why AS1 and AS2 are so great. They waited years between seasons so we really got the best. Now that we do an All Stars every year, it feels so much less special.
All Stars seasons need to go back to being once every few years or so and actually let the queens grow and develop their craft. Sadly that will never happen because they need to keep pumping out two seasons a year for maximum profit. That's why AS2 will likely never be topped as the best AS season (AS1 had the potential to be amazing too but the team format ruined it).
Some queens that get cast on AS today are because they had a line on the show that became a meme or were percieved as "robbed" by fans when they weren't at all and then they come back and have another lackluster run and prove that they were eliminated on their original season for a good reason.
i wanna throw up everytime i think about AS5 and AS6 casting.
Petition for drag kings to saturate rupaul with audition tapes for a season full of drag kings
My unpopular opinion: The fans that constantly call for RuPaul to retire and want to force her out of her own show are ungrateful and should be ashamed of themselves. RuPaul has created a show that has become a cornerstone of the LGBTQIA+ community and despite her flaws she deserves nothing but respect and gratitude for everything she has given us. She will retire when she's ready and not a second sooner and anyone against that is trash.
Agreed
Agreed. I've sort of gone from a big Ru fan (I'm old enough to remember when she was first getting famous and what that meant to the gay community) to being SO over her (the shit she said to Pearl, the "don't blame the edit" narrative, the fracking, etc). But it's her show. if you don't like her, don't watch it. She's not going to retire.
I also think there are a lot of young people nowadays who are growing up in a much more connected and "woke" world and it's so fantastic to see people thinking about other people's feelings and respecting their identities. But there's definitely a certain amount of intolerance for the past and where we as a community have come from and what we went through and how language evolves over time, etc. A lot of these queer kids don't even remember a time before gay marriage was legalized (or hell, a time before Drag Race). Like sure, Ru absolutely should've been called out for "You've Got She-Mail" and not letting trans queens compete if they'd transitioned, but there's a line between valid criticism/calling out and expecting a 60-something year old revolutionary queer person to know every little thing that has changed in queer culture while she's been busy building a media empire and not make any mistakes. I mean, look at her references and what she expects the queens to know on her show. She didn't even get Valentina's Yzma/Pull The Level reference and we're expecting her to not make mistakes about language used by queer people born after that movie came out? Dang! Like, I'm not huge stan of hers anymore but I also think she deserves some leeway and some credit for everything she's done.
tl;dr I think we should expect Ru to get with the times, but there needs to be some patience and respect shown to her as one of the many icons who fought for us to get to where we are now.
Completely agree about Akeria, all stars 6 was upsetting
Yep AS6 was great for a few queens but the rest of the cast like Scarlet, Akeria, Pandora was literally non existent, like 10min screentime in total. It's even more upsetting for me how they treated Scarlet because she had been doing so well on both her seasons only to be "robbed" on s11 for storylines and used as a filler queen on AS6. This season was good but definitely not one of the best, i think we all had very low expectations after the absolute boring mess that was AS5
Thats why im happy she chose not to try to return. She knew.
@@amaterasu3099 the judging was HORRIBLE, Ra'jah was the real winner of the talent show, Scarlet should've at least be on the top for the ball, Pandora and silky should've be in the bottom for the ball , Trinity was robbed, and the list goes on and on
The whole season was upsetting when they decided to give the crown to the wrong queen. Rajah/Ginger deserved that.
@@RNCHFND no, the season was upsetting since the beginning
Also Unpopular Opinion: But i think the fanbase was WAY out of pocket with the hate against Jaremi. He made both of his seasons extremely fun, he knew how to play the game and hes INSANELY talented. Season 4 was my first season and he was my favorite contestant. even now hes STILL getting hate on twitter even though hes completely removed his drag persona from his life and now people are attacking his cosplay. like, leave him alooone.
Agreed, just like the absolute majority of queens getting hate. Extremely unnecessary, vicious and hypocritical on fans’ part. But rewatching season 4 reunion and particularly annihilation of Jaremi was pretty heartbreaking especially the part about his father 😓
She was extremely mean spirited to willam and others. It was unacceptable
No one made her quit drag
She did that
i agree that we shouldnt be hating him or harassing him, but to say he made his seasons "fun" is a stretch. it was honestly hard for me to watch him be so.. mean spirited. even if it was the edit's fault, that doesn't mean it isn't hard as hell to watch. maybe thats just me tho.
If people actually paid attention to stories outside what was shown on TV, there are countless stories of Phi Phi being nice and doing things for others and also getting along with other contestants more than what we saw... on the show and off. Also Sharon had her problematic moments that were edited out. I'm not saying she didn't have her moments, but we were literally only shown the worst.
@@sungexpression9093 the whole rant in s4 where he called willam a "thing" and kept making really shitty comments about her drag being masculine really wasnt fun to watch tbh. like definitely the way the show treated her was out of pocket but also she said some pretty out of pocket shit
This may be an unpopular opinion of an unpopular opinion, but I really don't think drag kings should compete, at least in the state the show is now. I do think they should feature drag kings; there's so many challenges where a king could play one of the roles. But, I just don't think Ru can accurately judge a king nor does the competition cater to the drag that kings do yet. One thing I *love* about Dragula is that the drag is so diverse and the challenges can include various types of drag. Look at season 4, you had both Sigourney Beaver, a cis female with a glamorous aesthetic, and Dahli, a more masculine kingly drag style, both killing the competition and making it to the finale. The Boulets can offer criticism that doesn't lock drag into a narrow box. Its obvious that Ru still has a strong preference for the high-femme female impersonation type of drag queen. I'm just concerned that if a king is cast, he'll be tossed to the side by production while they try to parade how inclusive they are. We still see bad handling of certain alternative queens, look at the mistreatment of Charity Kase on UK3. The show is definitely getting better, but I still don't have faith that they can treat a king with anything besides shallow tokenism at this point.
Seeing how they treated Maddy... I totally see your point 😔
even just mentioning that you want drag kings on the show will get you attacked. i remember seeing this one person on twitter saying how queens can do male drag but the show doesn't allow them is disgusting and they got a lot of hate for it
@@Chris-ot9bk no
People get attacked for acting like drag race has to change to be inclusive of drag kings
People are really black or white on the matter
Not having drag kings yet doesn’t mean DR doesn’t value them
The VsTheWorld series basically being mostly US is even more true if you've seen the spoilers and cast of Canada VSTheWorld
From what I remember aren't there only SPOILERS
Rajah, Silky and one more us queen I can't remember. 3 isn't really that bad.
Thank you for not just saying who is the spolier since people do that and i want to rip there weave out
Excactly, if it’s meant to be a competition between countries, then the US have an unfair advantage as they have more competing queens to represent for them
@@JanAside SPOILERS
And Trinity. Which is weird since they were just on AS6 and then brought back again so soon. Icesis as a winner being back is strange too.
I wish they wouldn't have brought back Kendall, her drag is terrible and so forced
@@RNCHFND I heard
Trinity had to drop out of filming and was replaced with someone can't remember who thi
I live for the shade of showing Jasmine Kennedie and Jorgeous when you couldn’t decide what clip to put for “too many young queens that don’t know nothing are on the show”
In total agreement re: queer culture education! I've been watching RPDR since it came out in 2009. I'm a bisexual cis woman and have been involved in the LGBT community for much of my life, so I was already familiar with many of the references. I used to watch every ep with my best friend who is a gay man (we live across the country now, so these days we watch together via text.) And on the early seasons of drag race, we would both learn new things all the time! I mean tbf we were in our early 20s but still, we weren't ignorant to culture. But we would look up the references from the show and find tons of classic queer media. Like neither of us would've heard of Paris is Burning or ball culture without the show (this was before PIB was on netflix or anything, no one was talking about it back then.)
(Btw sorry for the boring life story, but I wanted to make it clear that I was not new to queer culture when I started watching, and I *still* learned so much from the show.)
And I do agree that the show needs to stay current as well or it becomes Rupaul's Old Person Reference Show, but a mix of new and old is great! I'd love to see more runway themes that are inspired by LGBT references, I understand lots of stuff is copyright but there are many you can do. And more like the "Before & After" runway from AS7 where the queens have the opportunity to reference so many things, and create a fresh take on them. More challenges like the John Waters acting challenge from S7.
I just hate how the show has kinda gotten Sanitized for a certain crowd. And no it's not only the straight women, a lot of them are basic gays who don't know of anything prior to 2015. Rupaul needs to start walking the children in nature! Seriously it's 2022, everyone has a computer in their hand, let them look up the references and learn. Ru can do a quick explainer at the beginning of the challenge/runway so they know where it's coming from. Teach the kids!!!
(Apologies for my essay)
I love how you're trying to make this video about you, we thank you for your service but like, everything isn't about you white girls.
@@londonbordeaux Tf are you talking about? Some context never hurt anyone.
She`s just sharing how the show educated her on queer references. And then gave her opinion.
Unpopular opinion: yes, if Canada season 1 was judged fairly, Jimbo would’ve had more challenge wins. But also, if it was judged fairly, she would’ve been eliminated at Not Sorry Aboot It
Season 7 was so good at the time! I think the cast was so stacked honestly because they were trying to find “the new generation of drag” if that makes sense??? It really uncovered a group of queens that turned out to be some of the most famous queens to come from the show.
season 7 is such a gem tbh, it’s what got me into the show in the first place
I think it's funny when they add the Ru prefix, RuDemption, Rusical, acid Ruflux, gimme it all
For Rita Baga I think it's also important to note that there is a big part of it that comes down to Anglo Canadian vs French Canadian. A lot of quebeccers are look down upon by the rest of Canada and vice-versa and I know a lot of people hated on Rita for being French and therefore undeserving of her wins.
Casting only two Quebec queens was a CHOICE since Montreal, imo, has the best drag scene in Canada.
yeah i'll be honest, i was expecting more quebecois prescence. i think the biggest problem rpdr canada had was juggling the unique culture of the canadian drag scene with maintaining an american viewership. if they had gone full steam ahead and made the show _the most canadian thing i'd ever seen,_ down to discussing the cultural tension between french canadians and anglo canadians, i would have _loved_ it. americans? probably not as interesting to them, i imagine.
@@eliza1498 i personally would have enjoyed hearing about it, but i can't say the same for other americans who probably don't know that's a thing in the first place.
Season 7's big problem is that the challenges are AWFUL. Too many SCRIPTED acting challenges, too many scripted challenges periodt, and the most awful/bizarre dancing challenge that judged them IN TEAMS. The only good scripted challenge on Season 7 was Glamazonian Airways. All the non-scripted challenges on Season 7 were good to great, except for the bizarre DESPY awards that I still don't understand HOW they judged.
An allowance wouldn't make the battlefield equal in terms of lewks. What's going to happen then is that the queens who have the best relationship with designers would still end up getting the best garments, since they aren't buying those, they're probably borrowing them. The queens from the middle of nowhere would still end up looking the worst unless, or even if they know how to sew.
A future "Versus the World" should have a smaller cast, and no eliminations. Let the drama fester in there, there will be teams and stuff.
idk but the Shakesqueer challenge was HIGH camp and the john waters one was iconic though
I really liked the despy award challenge and lowkey wouldn't mind if they did this challenge again. They put Kasha Davis and Kandy in the bottom because they were the least funny overall, and it was a comedy challenge. Plus the fact they actually have to vote for each category brings light drama that the queens make fun of (violet saying "you really don't like me" after receiving the shadiest queen award)
@@dylannolastname730 : The Shakesqueer challenge isn't high camp, it's worse than "The Room" because you know these are talented people stuck in a shitty production. It is unbearable for me to watch because most of them are aware of how bad it is and have no way to escape it, and the sadness and despair emanates the screen. Morbius is arguably more fun to watch.
@@amaterasu3099 : Nah, Despy awards is one of the worst designed challenges, and the episode itself is awful. It wastes so much time on the "queen drama" via the voting and the only ones who really got to show how funny they were were the ones who "won" an award. MKD got put on the bottom for mispronouncing a word, when she should have been safe at worst. Katya did terribly on her part, but redeemed herself with her acceptance speech, and this was definitely an ep where I would've put Fame and/or Violet on the bottom with Kandy.
As a canadian, Canada S1 was GREAT, especially the dumb Canadian stereotypes. We EAT THAT UP here. It was one of if not the best Snatch Games before All Winners.
Oh, and Scarlett Bobo is the most insanely underrated finalist, shes S O great.
Ru earned the right to perform in her own show when she was performing in a time where it wasn’t mainstream fashionable, and actually potentially dangerous! If she wants to be wheeled out in a bed with a sequin comforter to lip sync to one of her songs we all owe her the respect of watching and applauding! 👑👑👑
2:01 "localised" is actually the exact opposite lol. When you localise something you're making it approachable for a new audience and their culture. So the cheesy way that Drag Race presents other countries with a bunch of stereotypes at the forefront is a kind of localisation (think also: rice cakes being called jelly donuts in the Pokemon english dub).
So we don't want seasons that are more localised, we want seasons that are more local. More of their culture.
PLEASE make another part!! these types of videos are so entertaining lol
One of my main issues is they need to stop doing group challenges then pull the whole “you’ll be judged separately”.
That’s just ASS, people who you get set up with can negatively or positively impact your performance like every career. Also if you help your partner with creating lines or a cohesive look then why aren’t they getting notes for that too to keep them safe?
I think Elecktra Bionic deserved her win and should’ve gotten her flowers on the show. She easily could’ve been in the top literally every week with at least 1 or 2 wins
miss bionic lovely safe - win - high - win - high queen
@@dylannolastname730 period
Totally agree
the one abt drag kings- YES YES YES!! seeing the balance of the masculine and the feimine on one screen? PERFECTION!! plus there are some fine ass drag kings (like adam all)
I dont thinks this is very unpopular, but i think Violet deserved to win season 7. Ginger had the best track record but she lipsync two times, the difference wasnt that big and Violet was very -iconic- (she owned that runway everytimr). I hate the narrative that she only won because they wanted to crown a young winner (even tho thats kinda true, but Violet earned her place not like Fame and Pearl).
Also the hate Violet is receiving for the fpr is riddiculous. Who can hate the takes, that doesnt mean they came from nowhere and arent valid
Unpopular opinion: Ru doesn't get enough credit for being in his 60s lol he's constantly being hounded for forgetting names, being stubborn, semi rude, and having "outdated" opinions...he's a boomer 🤣🤣 being rupaul does not negate the fact he's an old man and is going to have old man moments.
Also, dude works basically nonstop. Constantly filming seasons of Drag Race in multiple countries, as well as various other appearances and shows. He's got a lot on his plate, give him a break.
@@maxwellhenschel6956 🗣that part walmart
However he does need to understand that if he is going to bitch and whine that queens don’t know references - eg Aja as3 he needs to get educated on some references not from the 70s
There should be a season for queens 30+, as much as I love so many younger queens the older queens are just something completely different with so much experience and respect. I want to hear more from Queens who started when drag was still dangerous for people to express and before it became so much more acceptable. Or just give Raja her own season where she's the only contestant either works
Unpopular Opinion: Phi Phi was in the right in her fight against Alyssa on AS2.
And then production took 3 separate prompts and edited them together to look like 1 long diatribe
my long list of unpopular opinions and 3, 2 , 1
- Mo and Juju were poorly viewed in UKvsTW because in their previous all stars season, they set the bar of a great all star competitor as high as Mount Everest combined with 12 skyscrapers. Mo and Juju in their respective seasons had the top 3 TR of the season, gave one of the best performances of the show (Mo eating up the improv , Juju eating Snatch Game, etc...) the best storyline and were sorta the main narrators of their season.
- AS1, UKvsTW and As4 are camp af
- Holland 2 isnt bad its just what happened in the last 2 pre-finale episodes just made the fans mad. The sewing challenge was great, the snatch game, that talent show, etc...
- Divina De Campo was not robbed at all in UK1 (idk why people keep saying that 😭)
- The show should hire more script writers for acting/rusical challenges. (since tbh most acting challenges in DR are either one of the best challenges of the season like Bra Wars, Beastenders, Moulin Ru, Downtown Draggy, etc... or some really crunchy ones like Henny I Shrunk the Drag Queen, PharmaRusical, Breastworld, etc...)
- The last category of the ball challenge should be more heavily weighed on into judging since the first 2 looks can easily be bought by money.
- Uk3 isnt that bad, sure the middle part was incredibly weak, but the premiere was great, the ball, acting, roast, the finale was great as well. AND the lip syncs were incredible. I feel people were just pretty stuck up with what happened in the middle part like vic's exit, the no winner twist, double elim. But still.....THE COCKNEY QUEEN IS IN THE HOUSE
- They should bring back the untucked lipsync acting challenge from season 5 episode 2 again (honestly one of the best challenge ideas of all time.)
- The no-winner twist is a good twist and probably couldve been used in some episodes like the Vogue one in Holland 1 , commercial challenge in season 4 episode 3, s2 makeover, etc...
- Icesis Couture, similar to Priyanka is one of the most underrated winners in the show (for me). Icesis really grew on me watching Canada 2, from winning episode 1 and instantly being in the bottom right in the next episode and landing in the bottom about 1 episode after winning the ball and managed to give incredible lip syncs there. She always gave a very humble feel in the edit across most episodes and the makeover episode just made me stan Icesis Couture even more and the fact she almost sewn EVERYTHING she made in the runway. I sorta hate how fans may not like winners because they had either the second or third best in their season but in the recent years has track record really mattered much?
uk3 isn't terrible i agree, but coming just after uk2 its pretty horrible. When ever i think of drag race its always uk2, it's just right.
Happy to see that my Mimi opinion made it in. We all know that untucked was iconic, but so much of the "Golden Era's" finest moments really don't look as great in today's context. Alyssa vs Jade *cough cough*
Being first/Early out is not indication of a queen's talent. Every queen that has been on the show has the potential to win a season. Nina says it best "sometimes the stars just align". It will entirely depend on what challenges happen, what song they lip sync to and a hell of a lot of other outside factors. Look at Daya Betty on s14. She went home first because she did bad on one challenge and ok in a lip sync. Only for her to kill the rest of the season, get to top 5 and beat 3 queen's in two lip syncs. Other examples include Ongina in AS5 who was clearly not in the right headspace after being in the btm ep1 and then getting called out by MZ Cracker as well as struggling with a SINGING challenge due to a sore throat. Bonus points Shea Coule who might have won s9 if Ru didn't introduce the Lip Sync smackdown rule, the wheel didn't land on Trinity -(who had conspired with Peppermint to pick each other as they knew the show wanted Shea and Sasha as top 2), Peppermint chose the other box with So Emotional in it or if she didn't sadly suffer through some personal family issues at that time. If just one of those things were different would she have won s9? Maybe. And if she did who would have won AS5? Sometimes the stars just align to help certain queen's do well or do poorly on a season.
Every queen doesn’t have the potential to win.
Plus a lot of early outs have major growth to do.
The boxes, when the queens "pick" a song to lip sync to...all have the same song in them. They're then switched out for identical boxes with another song in them for the next round. Just another production trick.
Saying Trixie & Katya is overrated, literally is overrated. Like, Katya constantly references to the fact that they might be too popular for their own good/overrated….but the fact that they have accomplished so much/are still widely loved and keep people engaged outside of just RPDR is great, regardless of those that don’t like them or think they aren’t necessarily the most talented queens.
My hot take is that as an actual tv show, drag race is only enjoyable if you've never watched other things. The editing of the show needs a revamp stat. I've been watching things like the circle lately and the editing is SO tight and gripping there even though they really don't have much to work with, the creation of storylines is so organic and captivating that even though I can tell where producer medling comes in, I frankly don't even mind.
After not watching the show for a while and coming back for season 14, it is slow or rushed (no in-betweens) and it's very obviously a manufactured simple narrative being presented. Yes, we are queer, yes, the drag is fun, yes, the fandom is toxic and we somehow like that, but what if the show was actually well made?
The thing is, they're still winning awards and RuPaul cares about that so I don't think the format is gonna change much
I think its true that for example Drag Race Espana is catered towards the international audience, but I dont see a problem with that, because the original Drag Race is so focused on the US and as an international viewer, you really notice that. The show is very patriotic at times, which might feel a bit weird to non-American viewers, and a lot of the guest judges or people they reference I’ve literally never heard of. The other seasons are a great way to give people some references they can actually understand.
Kameron Michaels is and was, on season 10, an amazing performer. People should be allowed to like her without others saying "You just like her because she's hot outside of drag."
I actually really wanted Kameron to win and she should have based on the criteria of saving yourself with lipsyncs and winning based on lipsyncs. The gymnastics they had to do to get Aquaria to win over her were a lot.
@@kiwisoup There was no way they were gonna crown her strictly due to her track record. On a regular season, someone with 1 win and more than 3 bottom two placements will never win the crown. It was a stretch enouh when Willow Pill won with 1 win and 2 bottom placements.
The s7 onward identity crisis stems from rupaul only expecting the show to last 6 season, look at the winners, baby rupaul, americas sweetheart, the fasion goddess, the gender bent ghoul, the quirky under dog and the all rounder professional legend with a heart. It was rus story, the arcs died since then and after it moved to logo in S9 and got some emmys, it became about money, mainstream, fame and legacy. The american dream smokescreen aired out and now were seeing rus brittle old bones peeking through
Not America’s sweetheart- 💀
@@stxrstrxckmxteo515 idk representing America with someone who threatens to bomb places sounds pretty accurate
Oooooooo this is interesting to think about. Very good observation.
España 1 is the best season the franchise has produced and I'm a Dutch viewer. Also the winner of that season is the best winner in the shows history (best as in her talents were best matched to the show format and challenges).
DRES1 winner is truly outstanding and I'm happy of her nearly legendary status since she won, but imo the DRES2 winner is even better suited for a DR competition and in some alternative reality were both of them competed in the same season... I can't imagine the S2 winner losing, I must say 😅
@@ilunaker1032 I am just now watching season 2, but I'm excited!
@@TheUncannyDani Yay! Hope you enjoy it! 💛
My unpopular opinion: Symone Vs Kandy Muse is actually a great lip sync and I think it’s underrated because fans really wanted an elimination at that point and they didn’t like Kandy so they weren’t happy when she got to stay
Literally. If people are arguing that much about who should’ve stayed then it means it was probably a worthy double save.
i feel if any of them were eliminated at that point would cause the fandom to shatter into a million pieces lol, its like putting Katya in the bottom with Pangina, Alyssa Edwards, Shangela and Tatianna and RuPaul pulling a "none of you survived that lip sync"
They were both messy. I think Kandy slayed the first part and Symone handled the later parts the best (or the other way around, I don't remember)
My unpopular opinions:
1. Aquaria beat Eureka in the “If” (Janet Jackson) lip sync in s10. Idc if she fell, she won.
2. Miz Cracker is overrated, her personality is a pretty big turn off for me.
3. Season 11 is the worst season of them all.
4. Widow Von Du, Denali, Max Malanaphy, and Ivy Winters all deserved to be in the Top 4 on their seasons.
5. Rock M Sakura definitely would murder an early-out season. Not only is her makeup better than Trixie’s or Kim Chi’s, but I’d argue that Rock M is a funnier queen, too. I need her back on TV.
6. All stars 4 and 5 very easily could have not existed. I was excited to see many of these queens back on drag race but both seasons were cringy.
I think All Stars 4 and 5 should’ve been combined. It would’ve been cool if it was 1 season rather than both of the two, if only like half of those queens were brought back, and if we had a few yrs in between all stars. I don’t think we need it every year.
Shea was a contender for season 9’s crown FOR SURE, like she was THE most qualified. However her run on AS5 was a massive let down for me. It was a conflicting feeling seeing her get a win. I was proud of her and happy for her, but I don’t think it was nearly as deserved as it was s9.
Some of these aren't unpopular
Widow yes. Denali no. Olivia lux mugler . yes.
@@iv6034 wait why are you bringing up shea? Kylie won with a worst track record and let's not forget about Trixie. So how wasn't it deserved.
The talent show/variety show challenges are fun and all, but at this point, nearly everybody does a song that they wrote, and it's kinda repetitive. The songs are usually about how great they are, and if they don't happen to be about that, I don't actually remember cause they all blend together. On AS7, I genuinely don't remember anyone's songs, I can only remember what Raja and Monet did (the only ones to do something different), and even though Monet did sing, she did freaking opera, how cool is that?? I feel like if everyone is gonna be doing the same type of thing, it's kinda boring, and I don't really wanna watch it lol
great vid Jack! love hearing these opinions.
unpopular opinion for the drag race fandom: not every overseas spin- off has to be americanized. appreciate this vid! thanks
But if they want the us fans to watch it, it’s a trade off
not really. if the us fans are really interested, they could research. not everything has to be spoonfed for them.
@@tbrcc9451 nobody said that.
You’re projecting
If you want mass appeal that gets the queens support when they tour here, you make the show accessible.
That’s why anime has dubs.
Removing barriers to the audience you’re appealing to is necessary
@@tbrcc9451 there is this idea making a show accessible to wider audiences is a cop out when it’s expanding where queens can tour
@@sungexpression9093 this is why i said mine is an unpopular opinion. there's a thin line of colonial thinking if you always expect the other iterations, esp SEA, to offer explanations of contexts and humor first. if wow really wants sustainability of the show, they shouldn't rely on us-based fandom, bec us drag is massive on its own. wow should let the drag race simmer in its own spin offs.
Jaidynn is so underrated! She’s such a good seamstress and lipsyncer and I really want to see her make a comeback (maybe in AS?) Also, her Dragcon look was a ✨FANTASY✨
Unpopular opinion: Jujubee should win AS7. She's the only one I could see winning. I love Jinkx and she's doing great but Jujubee deserves to walk in for the last episode in an off the rack mall dress and win the crown.
Slayyyyyyyyyy