Is Supreme Commander Forged Alliance Worth It? A comprehensive review

Поделиться
HTML-код
  • Опубликовано: 26 дек 2024

Комментарии • 169

  • @twiglets2
    @twiglets2  2 года назад +15

    If you're an experienced player what keeps you coming back to Supreme Commander? What did they do wrong for the second game? Are you still unsure whether to purchase the game? Let me know your thoughts!

    • @Bobthegreatestbob
      @Bobthegreatestbob 2 года назад +3

      The thing that keeps me coming back is that the game is very unique for all the games that i know

    • @thee0581
      @thee0581 2 года назад +8

      They did so many things wrong with the 2nd one, that it's difficult where to start. Mind, I am not a pro, just a normal player who enjoyed the campaigns and did play a little online. Main problem probably was, if it can be summarized, that they dumbed down the complexity of the game (specifically: how the economy works and unit variety). Hence, people that loved the first SC got turned off by that, while people who were not really interested in the first one, did not even bother to buy / play it. So in the end, this decision to simplify everything did not cater to anyone.
      I even gave SC2 a try, but the moment in the first mission, when 2 experimentals showed up to take a leisurely stroll through the base, I realized that those T4 units did not mean anything anymore, and the whole gameplay feeling in general was so off, that I just refunded it that very moment and never felt the need to come back.

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  2 года назад +1

      @@thee0581 That's interesting to hear, thanks for sharing your experience. Maybe they thought the complexity of the originals put off more casual players and they tried to appeal to a more casual player base - and ended up pleasing nobody!

    • @thee0581
      @thee0581 2 года назад +1

      @@twiglets2 That's exactly what I think has happened (and I read about it somewhere, but can't remember where it was). The "pros" and fans of the first SC just stayed with it since the community was alive and well, and the "casual" playerbase never picked it up. It also did not help that I think it was developed for console at the same time, hence you had overly large symbols console players could recognize on TV, but that was very offputting for PC players.

    • @Deepkeel
      @Deepkeel 2 года назад +1

      @@thee0581 Ah, I never considered the idea that they scaled UI elements the same on both platforms. Yikes.

  • @jojoj81Gaming
    @jojoj81Gaming 2 года назад +40

    Just going to parrot what do many have already said, forged alliance is hands down the best RTS I've ever played.
    The FAF community adds so much more to the original game though, especially support for larger teams, a while lot of quality of life improvements and more mods than you could dream of, including some very competitive AI that keep the game interesting even 15 years later.

  • @danspencer9499
    @danspencer9499 2 года назад +36

    Forged Alliance is the best RTS I have ever found. It has infinite replayability, because you can change up the AI opponents on a huge number of maps. Every game is different, so you learn to alter your play style on the fly. I started with Supreme Commander, then bought Forged Alliance as soon as it came out. I have returned to playing it again and again over the years.

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  2 года назад

      That's great to hear Dan, it's not often such a game comes along! Did you ever try Supreme Commander 2? I'm intrigued that it's nowhere near as popular as Forged Alliance.

    • @LevtNow
      @LevtNow 2 года назад +1

      Try LOUD mod if you enjoy playing against AI on huge maps. It massively helps with performance issues and can run 5000 units real time without any lag (0 sec delay). It is rebalanced unfortunately by mod creators in some ways that I do not enjoy cause I am more familiar with FAF balance. It is manageable tho and you can add a lot of additional units from Total Mayhem or Black Ops unit packs that are purposefully balanced by mod creators so they are not destroying balance. All mods included in LOUD are tinkered in order to work perfectly with their AI and balance methods.

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  2 года назад

      @@LevtNow Thanks for the recommendation, it's great to see LOUD being mentioned as FAF has been mentioned many times already.
      Whether it's FAF or LOUD, it's great to see gamers have multiple options to keep this game going into the future.

    • @LevtNow
      @LevtNow 2 года назад

      @@twiglets2 I kinda made an oopsie cause LOUD was mentioned in video and I wrote this while watching xD. Nice vid tho!

    • @user-je3sk8cj6g
      @user-je3sk8cj6g 5 месяцев назад

      Play Battle for Middle Earth 1 and 2 and the expansion of the 2 Wrath of the Which King. Superb game.

  • @macho9mm684
    @macho9mm684 2 года назад +13

    i started playing in 2009 and i still come back to it every few months or so. whats keep me coming back to supreme commander is the balance. if the enemy can build a nuke and still fight you off then you did something worng.

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  2 года назад +1

      That's interesting as you so often hear the reason an RTS is bad or frustrating is because the balance is bad. It's refreshing to hear of a game that has a GOOD balance - it seems to be a rare quality!

  • @ZLO_FAF
    @ZLO_FAF 2 года назад +47

    Official support for the Forged Alliance ended quite quick, only 1 real patch was released.
    FAForever was supporting game for more than 10 years
    BIG quality of life improvements, UI scaling for modern screens (4k support), balance, performance, AI improvements, multiple AI developers and AI tournaments, random map generator (it is very good), FAF's map maker is much better than the original one (credis to ozonex), automatic mod and map downloads from the mod and map vault where you can search for maps and leave feedback, coop campaing, custom sctipted maps (survivals, missions, minigames)
    Unit packs that add ton of units, 1 more original faction, 2 more factions from TA
    GIGANTIC UI IMPROVEMENTS, original game didn't even allow for key rebind
    Visual improvements, engine improvements, many iterations of balance improvements
    16 player support and with some mods 32 players support
    adaptive maps (amount of reclaim and resource spots is adjustable)
    New game modes (basicly mods but some mods require more than just putting files in mod folder so they can't be easy distributed without breaking your game and FAF puts them is separate instances so it does not break stuff)
    Now working on shaders and more engine improvements
    Rating system and moderation
    also FAF unites lots of players together so it is easy to find support, modding support and everything
    Frequent tournaments with money prizes
    there is like 1 new unit called t3 mobile aa... introduced because t2 mobile aa can't hit t3 air reliably and in old balance whoever wins air could just bomb t2 antiair of attacker and then bomb the rest of the attack and air can attack anywhere... (well i guess that info only matters for those who played on old patch for years and seen how meta evolved into rush of t3 air)

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  2 года назад +3

      I can't believe they stopped supporting the game so quickly, a good thing FAF is around then.
      32 players sounds insane, have you ever done that? My PC would melt

    • @ZLO_FAF
      @ZLO_FAF 2 года назад

      @@twiglets2 if you don't build much stuff it surely will be fine.
      Game's net code and p2p architecture will become more of a problem, and the fact that game stop and wait if someone loses data/packets during the game...

    • @certaindeath7776
      @certaindeath7776 2 года назад +1

      @@twiglets2 ive seen 16 player matches regularly with high level players, so no turtling, but rushing, and a lot of units on the map.
      with modern cpus not a problem. single core performance increased a lot in the last decade. it can get slow, especially when 1000 air superiority fighters are dishing it out, but after that fight it runs smooth again.

    • @MrVladko0
      @MrVladko0 2 года назад +3

      @@certaindeath7776 ASFs were fixed in one of recent patches btw. No more -10 speed while 1k on 1k asf fight, if game was around 0 before fight it probably won’t go below -2 while fighting, if -2 no lower than -4 etc.

    • @certaindeath7776
      @certaindeath7776 2 года назад

      @@MrVladko0 true, i read about that, but completely forgot, that they fixed something, the slowdown had something to do with the range indicators, and fixing that made the game even smoother.

  • @skoub3466
    @skoub3466 2 года назад +18

    Really nice review for a casual player of Forged Alliance. I would just add that even for solo play FAF add some nice quality of live feature. SO if you don't want to exclusively play loud project or other on moddb I would suggest to play whit faf and not the base game. ;)
    On a side node I'm currently participating in the Sanctuary project a indie game that try to be the successor of Forged Alliance and ad the approval of Chris Taylor the director of Forged Alliance. Have a nice day :D

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  2 года назад +2

      Thank you for that additional insight - very helpful to have that in the comments for new players to see.
      Best of luck on the Sanctuary project!

  • @The_gaming_PI
    @The_gaming_PI 2 года назад +8

    On the Topic of Forged Alliance Forever: FAF also sports a map and mod vault with community created maps and mods for easy access

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for the additional info, I'm assuming the majority of the healthy player numbers are using FAF, so awesome

    • @kackfresse84
      @kackfresse84 2 года назад +2

      You can also play the original and custome campaign in Co-Op.

    • @MoDlegion
      @MoDlegion 2 года назад

      And it also supports ladder mode!

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  2 года назад +1

      @@kackfresse84 That's awesome thanks for sharing that, Co-op on this game must be awesome

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  2 года назад +2

      @@MoDlegion The game that keeps on giving!

  • @bricetatham4080
    @bricetatham4080 2 года назад +8

    For those curious, there is a large online multiplayer community via the FAF launcher, heaps of mods etc and always game lobbies going.
    Don't attempt MP via the in-game launcher, use the FAF launcher and you'll find heaps.

    • @okccitizen4400
      @okccitizen4400 5 месяцев назад

      How?

    • @bricetatham4080
      @bricetatham4080 4 месяца назад

      @@okccitizen4400 Download forged Alliance Forever - search faforever in google and you'll see it :)

  • @jwallace6913
    @jwallace6913 Год назад +2

    this remains the benchmark for traditional RTS, nothing even comes close, unless we start comparing slightly different genres and consider games like company of heroes, total war, civilization, etc.. which we really shouldn't, because its apples and oranges. supreme commander has aged like fine wine, even graphically, the simple and clean aesthetic is timeless. it should be noted that many developers have tried to improve upon the formula (planetary annihilation, ashes of the singularity, etc) but none have managed to succeed, so far..

  • @certaindeath7776
    @certaindeath7776 2 года назад +5

    btw FAF (forged alliance forever) has mod support as well. it has tabs like steam workshop for mods and maps. you can easily manage your mods there.

  • @ivanvoloder8114
    @ivanvoloder8114 Год назад +2

    Forged Alliance is my favorite RTS of all time. The thing I love the most about SupCom is the sheer sscale of units colideing at each other, starting small at the beggining at ending up as a chaotic battlefield with thousand and thousand units killing each other from small T1's to gigantic T4. The only RTS that comes to my mind that had such a scale was Sins of Solar Empire. Also very complex economy system and factions diversity in looks, unit differences and strategies.

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  Год назад +1

      @ivanvoloder8114 Such an amazing game! Personally I think it could be the best RTS ever made, but that's a bold claim!

  • @zima2352
    @zima2352 2 года назад +6

    FAF client is the only way to play supreme commander highly recommended. 100s or players always online playing

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  2 года назад

      Thanks for letting everyone know. It's useful to hear from people who use it and are happy with it. Long live SCFA!

  • @Rawersers
    @Rawersers 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for doing a video on my fav RTS, If hardware wasnt such a limiting factor in the day i think it would have been more popular. Always happy to see more exposure and you even gave a shout-out to the community run platform FaF. Thanks !

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  2 года назад +1

      I totally agree, I watched the trailer so many times when it came out but always knew my system didn't stand a chance of running it. Felt like a kid again when I eventually fired it up.
      So good to see FAF as active as it is, a shame more old games don't have such things! SC is very lucky to have such dedicated fans (but fully deserves them!)

  • @murphymagic33
    @murphymagic33 2 года назад +5

    of course its worth it, SC and SCFA are amazing, best RTS ever

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  2 года назад

      A few players have said this to me, and it's not until now that I really appreciate how bloody awesome these games are!
      I haven't tried SC2 though, is that just a bit crap?

    • @murphymagic33
      @murphymagic33 2 года назад

      @@twiglets2 i didn't even know SC2 existed, Thanks ! looking at steam seems a lot of folk like it., with a few die hards lamenting an apparent loss of depth and features but with others pointing out that mods rescue it, Maybe you should apply your expert hand and particular review style to it as a comparison we can trust ? including the plunge into FAF mod

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  2 года назад

      @@murphymagic33 It's an interesting one, I've seen the same reviews as you and it's a real mixed bag. I suppose we should expect big fans of the original to be unsure about a sequel. I do have it in my Steam library just need to fire it up at some point.

  • @nikolajovanovic2562
    @nikolajovanovic2562 2 года назад +2

    Well made video. Though you just forgot to add one crucial detail in my opinion. Reclaiming mass on the map, and from the wrecks of the battles is additional but instrumental part of the economy.

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for highlighting reclaiming mass. I must confess that by the time of constructing the video I had only just begun to appreciate how good reclaiming mass can be! I'm still very much a beginner but damn this game is addictive.

  • @lannesromain1453
    @lannesromain1453 2 года назад +4

    The game is still alive, there is a large community on a community server called Forged Alliance Forever with a lot of graphics and balance update.

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  2 года назад

      I haven't tried it myself but have heard many good things about FAF. Can you reliably find multiplayer games on there or do you still have to wait around for others?

    • @lannesromain1453
      @lannesromain1453 2 года назад

      @@twiglets2 they are definetly enough player to find games.

  • @johndworak1035
    @johndworak1035 2 года назад

    I’ve been playing this game with my dad and siblings for years. It’s always a blast and never gets old. I’ve personally been playing since I was 10, and always find myself revisiting it every few weeks.

  • @XVM76
    @XVM76 2 года назад +1

    I’ve been playing these games for years and it’s been a joy to play it. Things I like about it is the base building and building massive armies of destruction and just watching armies go out each other with just all of these lasers and guns it’s awesome

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  2 года назад +1

      I felt like a kid when playing it, the kid that couldn't afford a computer to play the game when it originally release. Finally, I can experience the awesomeness!

  • @HauntedCorpseGaming
    @HauntedCorpseGaming 2 года назад +2

    Ah Supreme Commander, literally the reason to own an i7 LGA 1366 proc (had an OC'd 920 to an easy 3ghz) at the time. :)

  • @syradon4051
    @syradon4051 2 года назад +3

    it's been a long time since i've played the game but it's the best rts i know. The units are cool, you can have many, the experimental units are awesome. Maps are huge. If I had more time, I would also actively play FAF and not just watch recordings.

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  2 года назад

      Watching the recordings is still a great way to support the game, but hopefully you find some time to pick it up again soon.

  • @TheAwesomeTrunk
    @TheAwesomeTrunk 2 года назад +1

    I have been convinced! Installing now. :D great video, thank you!

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  2 года назад

      I'm glad you found it useful, let us know how you get on!

  • @ranger7650
    @ranger7650 2 года назад +4

    Good to note that forged alliance forever is still blooming player run community for such an old game

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  2 года назад

      I didn't get a chance to play it myself but for a game to have such community support is amazing, something most RTS games could only dream of!

  • @capuaniandrea
    @capuaniandrea 2 года назад

    Happy to see you actually covered one of the games i did talked about, hope you find it enjotable

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  2 года назад

      I got there eventually, thank you for the recommendation!
      It was a pleasure, I had not played this game at all and I'm glad i have (regret not having done so sooner). I can see why players say it's the greatest RTS as I really can't fault it myself.
      Do you play either FAF or LOUD mod? I seem to remember you recommended one before but I might be wrong.

    • @capuaniandrea
      @capuaniandrea 2 года назад

      @@twiglets2 never heard of LOUD, but i did mention FAF for the multiplayer aspect

  • @Ltleon2k2
    @Ltleon2k2 4 месяца назад

    Thanks for how you review! The 30 sec overview is excellent!! Thanks 🙏

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  4 месяца назад

      @@Ltleon2k2 glad to hear it! I've had good feedback on that so will continue to include it

  • @thedudeabides3138
    @thedudeabides3138 2 года назад +1

    Excellent essay.
    Really well thought out and delivered.
    Instant Sub and Like.

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  2 года назад

      Thank you I'm glad you enjoyed it! Let me know if there are any other games you would like me to look at, more than happy to take suggestions.

  • @Weigazod
    @Weigazod 2 года назад +3

    The reason we call supcom pinnacle of RTS is because no RTS after it even attempted to reach its level of grandeur. Supcom is a big investment in development but RTS in later years rarely have a dedicated shareholder and company to make something as epic. It's the industry itself that prevents something the level of Supcom to exist.
    More importantly, the very foundation of Supcom is about scale, to distinguish true RTS from the lesser RTT game which Chris Taylor (Supcom lead designer) argued about. Pretty much, he tried to make a game to prove his point.
    To be the pinnacle is the sole purpose for Supcom to exist. You don't get a better reason to say a game is epic more than that.
    An important note: there was still several few hidden features that the video didn't explore. These features are those that would make RTS players smile and often time only show themselves when you were trying out the game.
    Even if you don't like to play, you can watch several matches of supcom first to get a general understanding of the scale. There are a lot that couldn't be told with words.

    • @WatermeloniusXVI
      @WatermeloniusXVI Месяц назад

      Planetary Annihilation TRIED to match Supreme Commander but I think at some point the Devs lost the vision

    • @Weigazod
      @Weigazod Месяц назад +1

      @@WatermeloniusXVI I think PA has a different vision than SupCom.
      SupCom tried to do True RTS but PA was more about massive army. It's similar in some aspects but are really different when people started finding the game meta leading to a different result.

  • @ologhai8559
    @ologhai8559 2 года назад +3

    and if you are bad player like me 😅 you can always enjoy Gyle casting some matches 🙂

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  2 года назад +1

      Oh I hadn't heard of Gyle while making this video. Thanks for mentioning them, it looks like a very cool channel!

  • @comradestryker6521
    @comradestryker6521 2 года назад +2

    I'll save you your time.
    Is it worth it?
    *YES!*

  • @mikeg8564
    @mikeg8564 2 года назад +1

    "Turtling won't win you the game"
    Me : laughs in Mavor

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  2 года назад

      I'm glad I said that as a few others have told me how to win as a turtle which makes me happy :D

    • @mikeg8564
      @mikeg8564 2 года назад

      @@twiglets2 also FaF has coop and more missions than the base game, id definitely recommend checking it out.

  • @ToastedOmega
    @ToastedOmega 6 месяцев назад

    Very well done friend! I enjoyed this detailed review, it helped me extremely!

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  6 месяцев назад +1

      @ToasrwdOmega I'm glad it was helpful!

  • @kasper_rubin
    @kasper_rubin Год назад

    For those coming back to supcom there's a new game in the making called Santuary: Shattered Sun which basically is the next supreme commander. The developers are working together with and pulling inspiration from the original supcom developers, and the game feels both original and retaining all that we love about the original game.

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  Год назад

      @kasper_rubin thanks for the heads up!

  • @certaindeath7776
    @certaindeath7776 2 года назад +3

    i never understood why games like age of empires is so popular, when there is SC:FA. SC is way better in terms like overview, advanced unit commands etc.
    played cossacks with friends some time ago, which is similar to aoe, but more units on the field, and i quit after kicking their asses in a MP game, and said i am never gonna touch that game again with its close in zoom level without overview, and no unit command chaining available.

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  2 года назад

      I have to admit I've found it difficult going back to other games since SC mostly due to the zoom (or lack of). I've heard it described as the best RTS ever made, and now I've given it a proper try I have few reasons to disagree with them.
      Why AoE and CoH are so popular instead? I really don't know! Perhaps it simply comes down to marketing, not the quality of the games themselves? SC definitely deserves to be more well known than it is in my opinion. Cossacks ain't that bad! :D

  • @Deepkeel
    @Deepkeel 2 года назад +1

    My introduction to SupCom was SupCom2 on Xbox 360, was very pleased early on so I acquired the original(again, on Xbox360) had many great times... burnt out a console or two. Thoroughly enjoyed it.
    I've always loved watching FA and FAF content, dreaming of the day I can join in the fray, even with videos where people affectionately bully the person recording. I still miss Brink of course.

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  2 года назад

      I've not met many gamers who play this game or similar games on console. I'm assuming you enjoyed the experience! But I always thought the controls would be tricky on console?

  • @cast5439
    @cast5439 2 месяца назад

    FAF does have a HUGE moding support it really helps it has something like ( and easier to use ) steam workshop.

    • @cast5439
      @cast5439 2 месяца назад

      oh and awesome video, nice to see an actual review of a old game.

  • @olfens
    @olfens 2 года назад +2

    Being a turtle can win you the game in Supreme Commander if you manage to build, among other things, nukes or T3 artillery. Turtles will enjoy.

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  2 года назад

      I'm glad to hear it! I had assumed that due to the mass deposits being spread across the map it would force you to expand to be competitive.
      I guess if you can get those nukes and artillery you can cause damage from the safety of your base, or am I misunderstanding?

    • @olfens
      @olfens 2 года назад

      @@twiglets2 Yes, you can cause alot of damage. They are usually refered to as "end gamers" because they are so powerful.
      In a 1 on 1 game turtleing might be harder tho since you will be at a serious disadvantage economy wise.

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  2 года назад

      @@olfens Thanks for offering your expertise. it's interesting to me but I'm sure potential new players will find this useful when reading through the comments too.

  • @vik2051
    @vik2051 3 месяца назад

    My only real problem with SC FA is nukes and that some experimentals are much more powerful and efficient than others, on nukes they should need a special resource to build or have the countermeasures not be able to target the same nuke as if you fire several at an opponent at once you win the game, it cannot be countered.
    However, the fact that you can turn specific tech off is the reason this RTS is THE NO1 OF ALL TIME.

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  3 месяца назад +1

      @@vik2051 I love it, terrible at it, but love it!
      I would suggest that this game has the best resource system of any rts game.

  • @falcon88h
    @falcon88h 2 года назад +1

    Best RTS evuuurrr

  • @snakeliquid34
    @snakeliquid34 2 года назад

    seems like a very underrated channel. +rep

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  2 года назад

      Thank you, hope you enjoyed the video. Any suggestions for future games / subjects are always welcome :)

  • @StrikeNoir105E
    @StrikeNoir105E Месяц назад

    11:30 This is a part I found to lack nuance in terms of how both games teach players, so I'm going to elaborate on these:
    Supreme Commander has a sandbox tutorial mission that has a lot more lessons to teach gameplay, but all of them are provided via text and some videos you have to go through yourself in essentially a self-study mode. The campaigns serve as a semi-decent pseudo-tutorial, but already assumes you know the basics of how the game plays and doesn't even delve into the advanced topics the self-study tutorial does, and mostly tries to teach what particular units do.
    Forged Alliance has a tutorial mission that does in fact provide a step-by-step hands-on experience to better teach players the basics from building an economy to combat, and thus the game is actually more accessible in comparison. What it lacks though is the more in-depth self-study mode that the original game has. The campaign also isn't interested in serving as a pseudo-tutorial like in the previous game, and instead throws you neck-deep into the thick of the action with all three tiers and experimentals available from the get-go (barring some of the new Forged Alliance additions you unlock later).

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  Месяц назад

      @@StrikeNoir105E thank you for the additional information, a very interesting read.

  • @botmistick7788
    @botmistick7788 Год назад +1

    Why is this video 15min long and not 10sec with a giant Yes? ..

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  Год назад

      @botmistick7788 Damnit, I knew I was doing something wrong!

  • @simonchoi973
    @simonchoi973 11 месяцев назад

    Great video, thank you so much!! So this decade old game has no problem running on modern operating system like Windows 11?

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  11 месяцев назад +1

      @simonchoi973 Not that I'm aware of, it runs absolutely fine on Windows 10 so I see no reason for windows 11 to be an issue

    • @simonchoi973
      @simonchoi973 11 месяцев назад

      @@twiglets2 thank you once again!! 😊

  • @JaredNagle
    @JaredNagle 2 года назад

    one correction for you is that FAF client is for both PVP and modding. PVE is very much active in that community, and the patches improve the gameplay immeasurably

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  2 года назад +1

      Thank you for the correction - much appreciated!

  • @chadfalkin6850
    @chadfalkin6850 2 года назад

    Supreme commander has by far the best combined arms warfare I've seen in an rts

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  2 года назад +1

      I must confess I didn't realise how insanely popular it is all of these years later. My system didn't have a chance of running it back in the day so I had to miss out unfortunately. It's great to see the longevity though.

  • @jacobg2134
    @jacobg2134 2 года назад +2

    Best. RTS. Ever.

  • @jx4219
    @jx4219 2 года назад

    I played supcom and the addon since release and i still haven't played any of the campaigns.

  • @nuruddinshah684
    @nuruddinshah684 2 года назад

    Hello
    Will you do a review on Planetary annihilation ?

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  2 года назад

      Hello! Thank you for the suggestion, I've been keeping my eye on Planetary annihilation: Titans, is that the version you would suggest? I will look into it

    • @nuruddinshah684
      @nuruddinshah684 2 года назад

      @@twiglets2 well that the DLC. The question is will you do both or will you do review like how you did supcom?
      I just want to know if PA stand the scrutiny. For imo interesting Idea. Terrible execution

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  2 года назад

      @@nuruddinshah684 It looks like you can buy both on Steam, I will take a look but it seems reviewing the DLC too would be the best plan - thank you for the suggestion

    • @nuruddinshah684
      @nuruddinshah684 2 года назад

      @@twiglets2 DONT FORGET TO GET IT ON A SELL.

  • @OuzoBussino
    @OuzoBussino 2 месяца назад

    unpopular opinion: this game is maybe the best in its kind i ve ever played since i first started with total annihilation back in the 90s, game who i think shares its creator with supcom, but it has a fatal flaw: in order for someone to play it correctly, they will have to be zooming on and off in the map almost at all times, which creates a constant view changing feeling which feels quite unsettling to me. i need to be seeing the units, the explosions, the graphics and not diagrams and icons, to have a true major battle feeling, which in this game simply cant be the case, hence why i stopped playing it even though for its oustanding gameplay and setup.

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  2 месяца назад

      @@OuzoBussino I think specifically the resource mechanics in this game are genuinely the best I've seen in any RTS, even though there are only 2 resources its just a great system!

  • @spiffygonzales5899
    @spiffygonzales5899 2 года назад +2

    YES! YES IT IS!
    Glory to the Princess! Purge the heretics of the way!

  • @fullsendz3236
    @fullsendz3236 Год назад

    so is "supreme commander" and "Supreme commander forged alliance different games?

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  Год назад

      Yep! Forged Alliance was an expansion of the original Supreme Commander, but it's big so pretty much it's own game. After Forged Alliance came Supreme Commander 2 but that isn't as popular, Forged Alliance seems the most popular version of the game.

  • @peterc504
    @peterc504 2 года назад

    Of course it is bc its the best RTS ever made still to this day!

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  2 года назад

      I'm glad to hear you're still enjoying it!

  • @andreasplosky8516
    @andreasplosky8516 7 месяцев назад

    I must have poured multiple thousands of hours into this game. I think it is the best, most fun RTS ever made.
    There are also many cool mods released for it.
    The game is dirt cheap these days.
    If you love RTS, then you want this game in your collection.

  • @CoffeeDroppa
    @CoffeeDroppa 2 года назад

    Best game ever with a great active community. Come to FAF !!

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  2 года назад

      It's great to see how passionate people still are for the game and the community, I wasn't expecting it when I started playing / researching the game!

  • @V4zz33
    @V4zz33 2 года назад +1

    I also recommend the even newer "version" of SupCom: B.A.R - Beyond All Reason which is free to play and amazingly optimized and sweet gfx, it's predecessor is Zero-K, this is the lo-fi version, basically, and then there is the classic, Total Annihilation.

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for the recommendations!

  • @carkeyss2589
    @carkeyss2589 9 месяцев назад

    so this is like machines at war 3 but 3d. sounds cool honestly

  • @RecklessFables
    @RecklessFables 2 года назад

    You haven't lived until you've fired a stack of tanks from a fortress-sized cannon or built an end-game flying Roomba and cleaned out an opposing base.

  • @drydenfatic3971
    @drydenfatic3971 2 года назад +1

    Bro already messes up his build he moving his com to much

    • @volodymyr_budii
      @volodymyr_budii 2 года назад

      Yea, and those 6 batteries on 2:40 hit me hard.

  • @SableTwoSeven
    @SableTwoSeven 2 года назад

    Have you ever played Planetary Annihilation:Titans?

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  2 года назад +1

      This is the first I've heard of that game, reading some reviews now and people are talking about using planets to destroy other planets, it sounds mental haha

    • @SableTwoSeven
      @SableTwoSeven 2 года назад

      @@twiglets2 oh it is. Basically a newer version of Supreme Commander. I own it on Steam. Quite fun, even if I'm bad.

    • @carlod5818
      @carlod5818 2 года назад +1

      @@SableTwoSeven one could say that they took it a little overboeard with the scale aspekt of that game and the subsequent balance problems but im no expert on PA

    • @jacobg2134
      @jacobg2134 2 года назад +1

      Bad game! Supcom crushes it

    • @SableTwoSeven
      @SableTwoSeven 2 года назад +1

      @@jacobg2134 does SC have an active multiplayer community still? Always heard amazing things about that game.

  • @taraxa287
    @taraxa287 2 года назад

    Thank you for this video, one piece of information is missing that makes this game unfortunately very very sadly so not worth the time: all RTS are single core games, meaning, there is little to no multi threading on any RTS out there and this stalls any late game significantly in case just one person does not have a CPU that is at least 3,7ghz, and with CPUs these days becoming very efficient running at ~3ghz per core, this makes it efficient for multi threading games, but very poor for RTS games. So a new multithreading engine needs to be created for RTS to flourish again.
    One more thing: forged alliance forever was a really nice addition to the gaming community, as steam has no interest in the games performance itself and they totally suck at improving game performance, in fact steam even breaks games intentionally to force players into playing newer titles, that suck, supreme commander 2 sucks hard, is a very very lean version of forged alliance and planetary annihilation is a sad excuse for both a forged alliance or total annihilation successor. Forge alliance forever though has lost most of the lead developers years ago and has patched the game beyond belief, breaking many game balances, performance fixes and mods in the process.

  • @df3yt
    @df3yt 2 года назад

    Looks like ZeroK

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  2 года назад +1

      How have I never heard of that game before? Looks very interesting indeed!

  • @rafaellouro3120
    @rafaellouro3120 2 года назад +3

    Best stategy game in the world all the rest is just plain trash when you compare them with supreme comander

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  2 года назад

      I've not played SC2 but it seems players don't enjoy it. Did they just screw it up for the second one?

    • @rafaellouro3120
      @rafaellouro3120 2 года назад

      @@twiglets2 They had to program it to be compatible with xbox so it came a "simplified" game i think

    • @Deepkeel
      @Deepkeel 2 года назад

      @@rafaellouro3120 Simplified is an understatement, Tech isn't maintained building side, you research it, and if you want another faction mid match, have to capture an engi AND build the research station. Also the balance skewed heavily in Cybran favor and Illuminant have almost zero navy, but a ton of hovering land units(one can't attack while hovering across water for some awful reason.) Oh, dedicated turrets are weaker than factory mounted equivalents...

    • @jacobg2134
      @jacobg2134 2 года назад

      @@twiglets2 They did a rework of resource expendatures and building worked in the game, completely altering the play style. They also completely demolished unit diversity, even entirely removing the navy from the Aeon faction. Seraphim are not present in the game, removing one of the factions and therefore making the game even less diverse in it's cast. They also implemented a research system, which while interesting at the time, it fails to bridge the gap left by the poor unit diversity. The combat in SupCom2 essentially boils down to whichever army has the most units. Experimental are massively underpowered, and the games are much shorter than the epic battles of FA.

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2  2 года назад

      @@Deepkeel Well that sounds....a bit crap!

  • @antonrubtsov3995
    @antonrubtsov3995 2 года назад

    +193 FAF!

  • @explosive3891
    @explosive3891 2 года назад

    Nice Game :DDD