@@iommic7981 from 80s to Arise: Sepultura was fucking awesome! with chaos ad and roots: gone to shit,. max left even more shit. I dont even follow them ever since 1998... dunno whatta fuck they did in 2000s and on... give me Krisiun....
@@BangerTV even roots is pretty good, I know it’s not cool to like metal but if people can call bands with cheesy names like destroyer 666 cool then I see no reason why can’t like the absolute cheese that is nu-metal.
You have missed the point of conversation. Early Slayer, Sodom or Destruction are influential bands. The essential bands of that sub-genre are bands like Japanese Sabbat, Desaster (both not even mentioned, WTF), Nifelheim, Nocturnal Breed, Bulldozer, Bestial Mockery, Gehennah, Witchmaster, Nocturnal.
Really excited for this one. I got to meet Joel back in 2016 when he played at 'Cherry Street Station' bar in Wallingford, CT. It was because of JHoffilms channel that introduced me to Toxic Holocaust. When I looked up the band to see when they were going to be in concert next, they were playing down the street from me at the time. Also, Joel recorded 'Conjure and Command' and the Toxic side of the 'Toxic Waste' split in Milford, CT.
Glad Aura Noir got their due recognition. Would've liked to see Sarcofago in the final 6, but they'd fit nicely in a first wave of black metal episode as well.
Nice job Banger. Goatwhore/Skeletonwitch/Nifelhiem/Absu/Aura Noir is my list. Sodom/Destruction/Kreator are kings of the German thrash scene and not blackened thrash IMO.
That's just Sam wanting to put the bands from his youth (which is also my youth, actually). I mostly agree with your list, take off Absu from it, they started as a Death Metal band after all, and put Destroyer 666 instead and I'm game.
It’s tricky, but I don’t think those 3 German bands belong. Their early albums/eps were influential on the genre, of course, but the majority of their output is just thrash metal. It’d make more sense if they were discussing essential albums for the genre. Then I could get behind including them. Also, Absu and Destroyer 666 definitely should have been mentioned as they epitomize the idea of this sub genre.
@@passionateintrovert i agree with you, i think the "issue" is because they are music critics so they seem to categorize in a way that is often too picky and, in this case, too incline to fit the narrative of Blackened Thrash then to truly have a distinction between Blackened Thrash and Black Thrash.
If you take out 1st wave of black metal as qualifiers for "blackened thrash" -- the 5 bands that I think should take the mantle as the pioneers of the genre are: Absu, Witchery, Destroyer 666, Aura Noir and Goatwhore.
The German trio Of kreator, destruction, and Sodom and the American band possessed were regarded as a more evil and faster version of thrash. When the label of death metal came with possessed’s Seven churches, we looked back only a few years before and said these bands early efforts were death metal. The only difference is they didn’t know to use blast beats with hyper rapid snare and double bass drums with triggers. Had they had access to this vocabulary they certainly would have used it, but the riffs carry on as death metal in many ways. The conversation seemed dropped on these bands further when their efforts later sounded more like mainstream thrash. Blackened thrash would not be a term for decades, yet every early death metal band will cite, early kreator, destruction, sodom, sacrifice, possessed, sepultura , and dark angel as greatly influential. Slayer’s early work after SNM was early death metal pre blast beat, which decades later is now blackened thrash. Early angel corpse uses hell awaits riff stylings even up to their last release. Sadus swallowed in black has a blackened thrash feel, especially in that by the time of this release the furthering of the modern death metal sound could be found but they chose to express in more of a thrash vein.
Wraith are a great new band that comes to mind. And obviously Hellripper (Heavy Blackened Speed vibes as well) Often Blackened Thrash seems to take from the more traditional metal camp which is what those first wave black metal guys were doing. Also Joel seems like a cool dude.
I'm amazed that it took them 23 minutes to get to Aura Noir. A good talk tho. I think that these sub genres started to separate sort of in the mid 80's. Like I know the aesthetic of say Bathory was different from Slayer but still come on. It was basically the same shit until like 85. Bathory with emphasis on Motörhead and Slayer with emphasis on Judas Priest. I don't think the average European metal fan was making huge differentiations between metal genres until like 87. As long as they had long hair and they sang about the devil or skulls it was just metal.
To me Destroyer 666 are the ultimate band in this style, one of the bands that got me into Metal and a shout out to related Aus bands like Nocturnal Graves, Gospel of the Horns, Bestial Warlust etc. \m/
No mention of Sabbat? Looks like someone wants to get beaten with Gezol's studded leather thong. They were off on the complete other side of the planet but still going pound for pound with the early bands in the scene
Lmao was looking for this comment, they rly fucked up by not having Sabbat there, however it's bangertv and Sam only knows the mainstream bands so no suprise
I was waiting for them to be mentioned and it never happened. Sabbat - Immortality of the Soul is the epitome of black/thrash, for me. They have multiple decades of great releases and just put out a split with Deathhammer this year.
The first time I ever heard the term blackened thrash was concerning Skeletonwitch about 10 years ago. And I'm about the same age as Sam and been listening to metal since the early 80's
Destroyer 666 is the first Blackened Thrash band that comes to my mind (if we're excluding all the First Wave Black Metal bands) and should of made this list. Fuck, the black/thrash scene down under is on fire...literally
@@sanchosanchez3401 Well i see this in this way, Thrashened Black presupposes that it is a black metal band with hints of thrash metal. In those terms the main genre is black metal. Something like that
Im a big fan of skeletonwitch. Specifically the 3 albums- beyond the permafrost, forever abomination, and serpants unleashed. These 3 albums are very fun and pack a good punch. Plus, They're from my State 😉
Funny enough, to add to Daniel’s appeal on Skeletonwitch. I was just around 11 when I first heard them and instantly fell in love with their sound. It’s very true, at the time I was listening to more thrash, hard rock stuff but once they stepped into the ring (mind you at this time I was pretty much popping my cherry in terms of musical expansion) they undoubtedly opened the waters to what I LOVE now. If it wasn’t for them, I would have never expressed my interest in the genre even further heckkk perhaps even taken up my guitar during those years! To them, and this channel and Joel!!! SALUTES!!
One absolutely sick blackened thrash metal band is Scorngrain. I dont think they are still around, but 0.05% is a super heavy and fierce album. They also add some industrial elements as well which makes it super unique.
This was fun to watch I found myself agreeing with everyone there. These guys know their shit for real, I thought I knew a lot. There again I don't venture too much into black metal influenced stuff.
Daniel Dekay brings up another ep of Lock Horns: death/thrash.! First band I recall getting me started on that style was Rigor Mortis, but there are many others!
For sure! Show no Mercy is the blue print for Blackened Thrash. By Hell Awaits they were lying the foundations of Proto Death. Even Fenriz hailed SNM as by the book Blackened Thrash
@@tmage23 of course! The beauty of CF is that they are so many styles in one band, ypu can go from Punk to Black going through Thrash & classic metal, so avantgarde.
I think that SNM is very influenced by NWOBHM (just listen to Crionics or The Final Command), so it's like a speed/thrash/heavy release. SODOM's "In the sign of evil" may be the beginning.
Seeing Kreator, Destruction, and Sodom being in the top of this list, brings my heart joy. I will say the terms such as "blackened thrash" have been sort of dumb in the past (say 5 years or more ago) nowadays, as I do my own record reviews on my channel, I use those terms in a much more positive light. So this list was killer, and I will tap into those newer bands over the coming days. Thanks for such a kick ass episode!!
Yeah, Hellfekted is a great band. I've been in contact with them when i made a review of their record 'Woe to the Kingdom of Blood' and they also seem to be super nice and awesome people.
People should really start saying "Bathory-derivative black metal" to differentiate it from black metal at large. It makes a huge difference because black metal predates thrash metal when you consider that Venom were calling themselves black metal before anybody else was called bm or tm.
Great show! Here in southwest Germany Destruction is still a big deal. Schmier is coming to our events. You meet this guy, can talk to him. Everybody is easy. And here are bands, that took this kind of music to the next level. So listen to Bitterness or Pessimist (ger)! You won't be dissapointed.
I have already read some good answers in the comments and obviously there are a lot of people here who actually have a clue. But some of the young bands were forgotten. My suggestions are BitchHammer from Germany, Hexecutor from France and my personal favorites at the moment are Gallower from Poland.
I had to do it. I was the 667th like. Damn someone had to do it! I was unbelievably excited w the topic and the guest. Joel fuckin grind!!!!! For me obsessed by cruelty is the poster boy for the genre. I'll propose 5 albums -obsessed by cruelty -infernal overkill -show no mercy -bathory s/t - black thrash attack -evil power Awesome work guys
Check out Ormskrik("Snakescream" in english)A Norwegian blackened thrash metalband. Released an album in 2020. Just discoverd them myself, love it! Some Norwegian lyrics, but most in English.
I can confirm that Hellfekted is an awesome band. I came in contact with those guys when i made a review of their record 'Woe to the Kingdom of Blood'. They seem to be super nice and down to earth dudes.
Destroyer 666, early Sodom, Midnight, Bulldozer, NME, Destruktor, Apocalyptic Raids, Absu I think are musts with this style. I also want to include Devil Master for the obvious Hellhammer and Venom influences, but they might be too punk. Now we need to go the opposite direction and do a blackened doom list so I can gush about Gallhammer, "Monothiest" era Celtic Frost, and Tryptikon!
There are absolutely great band called Blood Tsunami. And a project named Wraith - it’s so close to TH actually,but still being brilliant. And give a chance to Shakma and Hallux,they are incredible !
I was thinking the same. I remember hearing for the first time the term black thrash mentioned around the Norwegian bands Nocturnal Breed and Auir Noir
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This shows us that all humans have negative dark and evil ways and they hide it and love it more than good and positivity
Esperemos que en un futuro le agregaras subtítulos en latino América tendrías muchos seguidores tienes un gigantesco nicho por estos lados, un saludo desde Veracrúz mexico. keep fucking support metal alive!!!!
Around 9:00 he completely proves the poster’s point-he says he doesn’t like 90’s Norwegian black metal and loves Venom and Bathory. Which is exactly the the distinction that was being made.
Destroyer 666 for sure. Gospel of the Horns, Hobbs Angel of Death, Nocturnal Graves, Assulter, Shackles all from Australia early 90s. Ravencult should also be mentioned.
''Endless Pain'' is a good studybook to start with, but ''Obsessed by Cruelty'' is the whole crashcourse. ''Morbid visions '' and ''INRI'' ('aka 'Henry'') is all i need to know about Brazilian Popular Music.
Because I kept gravitating to this sub-genre of metal, I came to the happy conclusion that I just love Black-Thrash. There are two bands, whom are not that well known, that I think help define Black-Thrash metal. Grimfist and Ravencult. Grimfist are more thrash with black metal elements while Ravencult are more black metal with a lot of thrash elements. Both bands were short lived...but killer! Melechesh first two LPs are also great. If you're interested in B/T Metal and haven't already heard these bands, check them out! Morbid Blood and Ghouls of Grandeur.
I wouldn't put the German big 3 in Blackened Thrash, sure their early works are in that style and they are hugely influential in that scene but they changed more to a Thrash style pretty quickly. I think of Blackened Thrash as a literal meshing of styles like Aura Noir and Absu. It's difficult though because a lot of pure Blackened Thrash is very underground
they really do though, eapecially on Outer Isolation and Black Future. tremolo picked, melodic, evil sounding riffs show up all through out their (small) discography. just look at the “where dark is light internalized/ where the colors of the spectrum collide/ through the solar storm, the aurora are born” section of the title track of Outer Isolation. that shit sounds like straight black metal. plus the vocals are DEFINITELY black metal shrieks
I love that Sepultura is discussed on the Death, Thrash, Blackened Thrash, and Groove Metal lists. All before Max even leaves.
Jesse Dampolo lets be honest tho, his best work was everything before Chaos AD. Nailbomb was pretty cool tho
@@iommic7981 from 80s to Arise: Sepultura was fucking awesome! with chaos ad and roots: gone to shit,. max left even more shit. I dont even follow them ever since 1998... dunno whatta fuck they did in 2000s and on... give me Krisiun....
@@adopodrinje1499 I like Chaos
@@BangerTV even roots is pretty good, I know it’s not cool to like metal but if people can call bands with cheesy names like destroyer 666 cool then I see no reason why can’t like the absolute cheese that is nu-metal.
No Max, No Sepultura.
You have missed the point of conversation. Early Slayer, Sodom or Destruction are influential bands. The essential bands of that sub-genre are bands like Japanese Sabbat, Desaster (both not even mentioned, WTF), Nifelheim, Nocturnal Breed, Bulldozer, Bestial Mockery, Gehennah, Witchmaster, Nocturnal.
Beastial Mockery was so fuckin good, they need a comeback!
Holy Sht Joel's an absolute legend 🤘
I love Toxic and I fucking ADORE the Yellowgoat tapes.
Joel is a sweetheart, honestly watching all of you talk about this made me feel pretty good inside, you 3 definitely know what you are talking about
I thought Joel Grind was this obscure person that no one can interview. Turns out he is just a cool dude.
The disrespect to Desaster. One of the best bands to ever play this style.
Thought the same,at least in Germany,they're kind of THE Black-Thrash Band as such.
DAMN TRUE FACTS
100%!!
Hell yeah, well remembered! DESASTER will always be ''hunting the chapelain'' instead of just haunting the chapel...
Really excited for this one. I got to meet Joel back in 2016 when he played at 'Cherry Street Station' bar in Wallingford, CT. It was because of JHoffilms channel that introduced me to Toxic Holocaust. When I looked up the band to see when they were going to be in concert next, they were playing down the street from me at the time. Also, Joel recorded 'Conjure and Command' and the Toxic side of the 'Toxic Waste' split in Milford, CT.
That's badass Toxic is fucking great!
HELLRIPPER!! the best in blackened thrash right now!
Hellripper fuckin rules man one of my modern favorites as well
Fuck yeah I just got into them
HELL YEAH HELLRIPPER! Specters of the blood moon sabbath just came out and I’m so psyched for the new record
Thx for bringing this band up,, one man show he is ,, fking rocks ,, always like hearing new stuff !
The new EP is awesome. Some people accuse him of using programmed drums and it being an issue for them but come on man.
Desaster, cruel force, deströyer 666, condor, aura noir, nocturnal graves, deathhammer. Just a few examples of the real shit.
DEATHHAMMER! NECROMANTHEON!
And now I have more bands to look up thx👍
Hellripper out of Scotland is probably the best Black/Thrash band around today, IMO.
I thought blackened thrash was just black metal with more beer...
Basically yeah
And motorcycles.
Thrash metal with stouts
Wouldn't that be called Thrashed Black?
Or a lot of the time, non-American 80s thrash.
Joel looking like he just walked off a set from Wayne’s World
He was in the middle of a tour, so basically, he did
this comment made me laugh harder than it should have and idk how the fuck i missed it till now
excorcist - nightmare theatre is a rare example of speed metal mixed with black metal (from 1985).
Glad Aura Noir got their due recognition. Would've liked to see Sarcofago in the final 6, but they'd fit nicely in a first wave of black metal episode as well.
Amazing as always. Thanks from São Paulo, Brazil.
My favorite Sodom is Persecution Mania but I used to have nightmares with that dude on the cover when I was 16.
I have that shirt and some lady at target just got jump scared by it lll
@@awesomeguyscej6186 haha hell yeah that's awesome.
Happy to hear Joel loves Condor. Sick as hell band.
Cruel Force, Nocturnal, and I'd say Sabbat honestly
Sabbat is fucking awesome
Sabbat is way too underrated. They are THEE blackened thrash band.
Oh wow, there's a talk show about metal now! We live in the best timeline.
Legends.
seeing joel talk is like seeing your best friend talk about something passionately
Nice job Banger. Goatwhore/Skeletonwitch/Nifelhiem/Absu/Aura Noir is my list. Sodom/Destruction/Kreator are kings of the German thrash scene and not blackened thrash IMO.
That's just Sam wanting to put the bands from his youth (which is also my youth, actually). I mostly agree with your list, take off Absu from it, they started as a Death Metal band after all, and put Destroyer 666 instead and I'm game.
It’s tricky, but I don’t think those 3 German bands belong. Their early albums/eps were influential on the genre, of course, but the majority of their output is just thrash metal. It’d make more sense if they were discussing essential albums for the genre. Then I could get behind including them. Also, Absu and Destroyer 666 definitely should have been mentioned as they epitomize the idea of this sub genre.
@@passionateintrovert i agree with you, i think the "issue" is because they are music critics so they seem to categorize in a way that is often too picky and, in this case, too incline to fit the narrative of Blackened Thrash then to truly have a distinction between Blackened Thrash and Black Thrash.
Where is Japan’s Sabbat and Abigail’s first album? Come on Banger.
Burstin Out, Desaster, Hellripper, Witchammer, Venomwolf, Witchburner, Necromessiah, Condor, Aura Noir, Deathammer, Zemial, Nekromantheon, Butcher, Violentor, killer bands
Daeva, Sauron, Harassor, Malveillance, Saccage, Hellstorm, so many more.
Not too many folks mention Melechesh but I love that band.
Never heard of one of them.
@ If you like black metal vox on some groovy thrash metal then listen to their 2003 record "Sphynx".
and not one solid song. shame.
If you take out 1st wave of black metal as qualifiers for "blackened thrash" -- the 5 bands that I think should take the mantle as the pioneers of the genre are: Absu, Witchery, Destroyer 666, Aura Noir and Goatwhore.
Id go with that!
For me, the first true blackened thrash album masterpiece was Slayer hell awaits
You're not alone
@@BangerTV 🤘😈🤘
Interesting episode. Broad genre already! Also, glad to be included!
I saw Toxic Holocaust with Integrity last year
The German trio Of kreator, destruction, and Sodom and the American band possessed were regarded as a more evil and faster version of thrash. When the label of death metal came with possessed’s Seven churches, we looked back only a few years before and said these bands early efforts were death metal. The only difference is they didn’t know to use blast beats with hyper rapid snare and double bass drums with triggers. Had they had access to this vocabulary they certainly would have used it, but the riffs carry on as death metal in many ways. The conversation seemed dropped on these bands further when their efforts later sounded more like mainstream thrash. Blackened thrash would not be a term for decades, yet every early death metal band will cite, early kreator, destruction, sodom, sacrifice, possessed, sepultura , and dark angel as greatly influential. Slayer’s early work after SNM was early death metal pre blast beat, which decades later is now blackened thrash. Early angel corpse uses hell awaits riff stylings even up to their last release.
Sadus swallowed in black has a blackened thrash feel, especially in that by the time of this release the furthering of the modern death metal sound could be found but they chose to express in more of a thrash vein.
Wraith are a great new band that comes to mind. And obviously Hellripper (Heavy Blackened Speed vibes as well)
Often Blackened Thrash seems to take from the more traditional metal camp which is what those first wave black metal guys were doing.
Also Joel seems like a cool dude.
I'm amazed that it took them 23 minutes to get to Aura Noir. A good talk tho. I think that these sub genres started to separate sort of in the mid 80's. Like I know the aesthetic of say Bathory was different from Slayer but still come on. It was basically the same shit until like 85. Bathory with emphasis on Motörhead and Slayer with emphasis on Judas Priest. I don't think the average European metal fan was making huge differentiations between metal genres until like 87. As long as they had long hair and they sang about the devil or skulls it was just metal.
To me Destroyer 666 are the ultimate band in this style, one of the bands that got me into Metal and a shout out to related Aus bands like Nocturnal Graves, Gospel of the Horns, Bestial Warlust etc. \m/
I agree. Destroyer 666 is the poster child for Blackened Thrash now. I'd have Midnight and Sodom as high on the list too.
I also agree Destroyer 666, Gospel of the Horns, Nocturnal Graves, Assulter, Hobbs Angel of Death, Shackles, etc etc.
@@dyerwulfdyerwulf9943 reaper are another good aussie band who i got to see live 2 years ago
Just 4 minutes in and I can already see Joel's really passionate about this one, he sounds like a huge nerd and I love it hahaha
It would be awesome if you could put together a Spotify playlist witth the Essential Band every time you do one of these
Dekay is a rad dude, knows his shit, and always has the most awesome t-shirts too
Great genre. RIP Absu.
No mention of Sabbat? Looks like someone wants to get beaten with Gezol's studded leather thong. They were off on the complete other side of the planet but still going pound for pound with the early bands in the scene
Lmao was looking for this comment, they rly fucked up by not having Sabbat there, however it's bangertv and Sam only knows the mainstream bands so no suprise
I was waiting for them to be mentioned and it never happened. Sabbat - Immortality of the Soul is the epitome of black/thrash, for me. They have multiple decades of great releases and just put out a split with Deathhammer this year.
Right, never heard them in this, even Abigail.
@@witchfindergeneral5366 Kinda surprised Joel didn't mention Abgail given he has a band with Yasuyuki
Got to give a shout out to friends of mine Malhavoc. Toronto had a great scene going with them, Slaughter and Sacrifice.
One word: *W I T C H A V E N*
BLACK THRASH ASSAULT
Seriously!!! 🤘
FACTS 💯
Joel is one of the reasons i picked up a guitar
For some reason I always forget the Sign of Evil. I just think Cruelty then Persecution but Sign is absolutely an important piece of the puzzle.
lest we forget...
The first time I ever heard the term blackened thrash was concerning Skeletonwitch about 10 years ago. And I'm about the same age as Sam and been listening to metal since the early 80's
The Crown!!! One of the greatest and underrated bands!
Yeah but their melodic death thrash
Destroyer 666 is the first Blackened Thrash band that comes to my mind (if we're excluding all the First Wave Black Metal bands) and should of made this list. Fuck, the black/thrash scene down under is on fire...literally
Old British HC has a kinship with this style as well. I would be surprised if Bestial Mockery weren't Varukers fans.
Incubus (Approbrium)
"Beyond the Unknown" is definitely a blackened Thrash album, (They were from Louisiana).
Also Sacrifice "Torment In Fire"
Seems to have a slight confusion with the use of words: I wouldn't necessarily say that blackened thrash is the same as black thrash...
Satanic amen to that :-p
@@sanchosanchez3401 Well i see this in this way, Thrashened Black presupposes that it is a black metal band with hints of thrash metal. In those terms the main genre is black metal. Something like that
Im a big fan of skeletonwitch. Specifically the 3 albums- beyond the permafrost, forever abomination, and serpants unleashed. These 3 albums are very fun and pack a good punch. Plus, They're from my State 😉
Joel Grind is a local thrasher! This guy is awesome
That lineup is the first concert I want to see when concerts are a thing again...
Funny enough, to add to Daniel’s appeal on Skeletonwitch. I was just around 11 when I first heard them and instantly fell in love with their sound. It’s very true, at the time I was listening to more thrash, hard rock stuff but once they stepped into the ring (mind you at this time I was pretty much popping my cherry in terms of musical expansion) they undoubtedly opened the waters to what I LOVE now. If it wasn’t for them, I would have never expressed my interest in the genre even further heckkk perhaps even taken up my guitar during those years! To them, and this channel and Joel!!! SALUTES!!
Yes, my favorite micro-genre.
Great episode, dudes!
One absolutely sick blackened thrash metal band is Scorngrain. I dont think they are still around, but 0.05% is a super heavy and fierce album. They also add some industrial elements as well which makes it super unique.
Whew, I was about to go fuckin’ Apeshit if Aura Noir didn’t make this list. Good call on makin’ it 6 bands. Hahaha!
Aura Noir, Goatwhore, Hellripper, and D666 for me. I hope they do a black n roll list.
Because of this episode, I discovered Joel Grind snd the magical world of Toxic Fucking Holicaust!
Outstanding discography, Sir!🤘🏼
This was fun to watch I found myself agreeing with everyone there. These guys know their shit for real, I thought I knew a lot. There again I don't venture too much into black metal influenced stuff.
I fucking love Joel Grind
Joel’s Yellowgoat project is awesome blackened thrash
Daniel Dekay brings up another ep of Lock Horns: death/thrash.! First band I recall getting me started on that style was Rigor Mortis, but there are many others!
Old slayer is the beginning of this style?
For sure! Show no Mercy is the blue print for Blackened Thrash. By Hell Awaits they were lying the foundations of Proto Death. Even Fenriz hailed SNM as by the book Blackened Thrash
I think Celtic Frost is closer
@@tmage23 of course! The beauty of CF is that they are so many styles in one band, ypu can go from Punk to Black going through Thrash & classic metal, so avantgarde.
I think that SNM is very influenced by NWOBHM (just listen to Crionics or The Final Command), so it's like a speed/thrash/heavy release. SODOM's "In the sign of evil" may be the beginning.
@@danielzapata183 100%
Diabolic night, Wraith , Reaper , slaughter messiah, Butcher, Urn.....
Seeing Kreator, Destruction, and Sodom being in the top of this list, brings my heart joy. I will say the terms such as "blackened thrash" have been sort of dumb in the past (say 5 years or more ago) nowadays, as I do my own record reviews on my channel, I use those terms in a much more positive light. So this list was killer, and I will tap into those newer bands over the coming days. Thanks for such a kick ass episode!!
Listen to Hellfekted and Devastator I saw them at the gryphon in Bristol in the Uk they are amazing and JOEL GRIND YOUR AMAZING!
Yeah, Hellfekted is a great band. I've been in contact with them when i made a review of their record 'Woe to the Kingdom of Blood' and they also seem to be super nice and awesome people.
The Metalizer Blog fuck yeah cheers man thank for the kind words! 🤘🏻🔥
All shall Die thanks so much it was such a killer gig that was hopefully should be back Bristol soon! 🤘🏻
I would have loved to see Witchery on the final list, but was very glad they were recognized here. Great video gents!
People should really start saying "Bathory-derivative black metal" to differentiate it from black metal at large. It makes a huge difference because black metal predates thrash metal when you consider that Venom were calling themselves black metal before anybody else was called bm or tm.
You guys didn't talk about the Australian scene. Half the metal the guys make is blackened thrash! Same with South America
Destroyer 666, gospel of the horns, spear of longinus, bestial mockery, slaughter lord, razor of occam
It's amazing that Joel just mentioned Witchtrap
Great show! Here in southwest Germany Destruction is still a big deal. Schmier is coming to our events. You meet this guy, can talk to him. Everybody is easy. And here are bands, that took this kind of music to the next level. So listen to Bitterness or Pessimist (ger)! You won't be dissapointed.
Haven’t watched yet but there better be mentions of Desaster and Witchery and Nocturnal Graves
Please mention hellripper and wraith they are great bands
I have already read some good answers in the comments and obviously there are a lot of people here who actually have a clue.
But some of the young bands were forgotten.
My suggestions are
BitchHammer from Germany, Hexecutor from France and my personal favorites at the moment are Gallower from Poland.
I had to do it. I was the 667th like. Damn someone had to do it! I was unbelievably excited w the topic and the guest. Joel fuckin grind!!!!! For me obsessed by cruelty is the poster boy for the genre. I'll propose 5 albums
-obsessed by cruelty
-infernal overkill
-show no mercy
-bathory s/t
- black thrash attack
-evil power
Awesome work guys
JOEL GRIND HOLY SHIT
I love the fact that mob 47 and anti cimax was mentioned.
I fucking love Witchaven!!!!! super cool guys!!! Love their lyrical themes, Henry is awesome!!!
Check out Ormskrik("Snakescream" in english)A Norwegian blackened thrash metalband. Released an album in 2020. Just discoverd them myself, love it! Some Norwegian lyrics, but most in English.
great picks
as far as the new bands, id throw in BONEHUNTER (Finland) and HELLISH (Chile) as well.
This is sick, give Hellfekted a listen if you haven't already 🤘
I can confirm that Hellfekted is an awesome band. I came in contact with those guys when i made a review of their record 'Woe to the Kingdom of Blood'. They seem to be super nice and down to earth dudes.
read your comment and checked them out
good shit dude
Metal for you
Daniel M pretty much nails it with his mention of current bands. Vulture, Nekromantheon and Aura Noir being my favourites.
Destroyer 666, early Sodom, Midnight, Bulldozer, NME, Destruktor, Apocalyptic Raids, Absu I think are musts with this style. I also want to include Devil Master for the obvious Hellhammer and Venom influences, but they might be too punk.
Now we need to go the opposite direction and do a blackened doom list so I can gush about Gallhammer, "Monothiest" era Celtic Frost, and Tryptikon!
There are absolutely great band called Blood Tsunami. And a project named Wraith - it’s so close to TH actually,but still being brilliant. And give a chance to Shakma and Hallux,they are incredible !
Main band you missed mentioning is Nocturnal Breed, one of the best of the 90s. They’re the definition of black thrash to me.
I was thinking the same. I remember hearing for the first time the term black thrash mentioned around the Norwegian bands Nocturnal Breed and Auir Noir
This shows us that all humans have negative dark and evil ways and they hide it and love it more than good and positivity
Now which albums should I start with?
Esperemos que en un futuro le agregaras subtítulos en latino América tendrías muchos seguidores tienes un gigantesco nicho por estos lados, un saludo desde Veracrúz mexico. keep fucking support metal alive!!!!
Around 9:00 he completely proves the poster’s point-he says he doesn’t like 90’s Norwegian black metal and loves Venom and Bathory. Which is exactly the the distinction that was being made.
What about NEW Blackened Thrash Metal Bands?..yeah.. Nocturnus and Vektor on the map! Great episode guys! lml
Joel Grind is such a badass
Was there any mention of Possessed?
Hellfekted is a awesome blackened thrash band
Fuck yeah cheers man! 😁🤘🏻
I defo agree on this
Anyone who likes Hellfekted gets a VIP place reserved in the afterlife 🤘🏻
Destroyer 666 for sure. Gospel of the Horns, Hobbs Angel of Death, Nocturnal Graves, Assulter, Shackles all from Australia early 90s. Ravencult should also be mentioned.
Hobbs' angel of death is pure thrash, or like Hobbs himself would call it ,,virgin metal"
Probably can’t talk about any extreme metal sub-genre without mentioning Discharge
who? not alot of metalheads i know listen to them lol.
It’s cuz too many bands relied on that d-beat in order to sound good.
''Endless Pain'' is a good studybook to start with, but ''Obsessed by Cruelty'' is the whole crashcourse. ''Morbid visions '' and ''INRI'' ('aka 'Henry'') is all i need to know about Brazilian Popular Music.
Because I kept gravitating to this sub-genre of metal, I came to the happy conclusion that I just love Black-Thrash. There are two bands, whom are not that well known, that I think help define Black-Thrash metal. Grimfist and Ravencult. Grimfist are more thrash with black metal elements while Ravencult are more black metal with a lot of thrash elements. Both bands were short lived...but killer! Melechesh first two LPs are also great. If you're interested in B/T Metal and haven't already heard these bands, check them out! Morbid Blood and Ghouls of Grandeur.
I wouldn't put the German big 3 in Blackened Thrash, sure their early works are in that style and they are hugely influential in that scene but they changed more to a Thrash style pretty quickly. I think of Blackened Thrash as a literal meshing of styles like Aura Noir and Absu. It's difficult though because a lot of pure Blackened Thrash is very underground
The term "black thrash" was used at least 10 years before that Aura Noir album.
Really started to hear that term after Slayer Hell Awaits came out, or just a little after
Would even throw VEKTOR into the pot. Blackened Prog Thrash still counts, right?
no because they dont really have the 'black'
they really do though, eapecially on Outer Isolation and Black Future. tremolo picked, melodic, evil sounding riffs show up all through out their (small) discography. just look at the “where dark is light internalized/ where the colors of the spectrum collide/ through the solar storm, the aurora are born” section of the title track of Outer Isolation. that shit sounds like straight black metal. plus the vocals are DEFINITELY black metal shrieks
@@joeyuzwa891 oh dang maybe ur right...
Technical thrash with tech death influences. I've heard the term "brutal thrash" to refer to bands like that.
Anybody else watching that cup, wondering if anything spills out ...?
Let’s do this. 🤘🏻🤘🏻
Awesome!!!