ESSENTIAL MODERN DEATH METAL BANDS | Lock Horns Redux - Episode 4

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  • Опубликовано: 4 ноя 2024

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  • @metalbladerecords
    @metalbladerecords 4 года назад +168

    DM FOR LIFE, BROTHERS

    • @burneracc5397
      @burneracc5397 4 года назад +3

      can I mail you guys my band's ep? \m/ ,cheers nonetheless lmao.

    • @6idangle
      @6idangle 4 года назад +4

      @@burneracc5397 Just send it!

    • @mason3872
      @mason3872 2 года назад +1

      @@burneracc5397 do you have it on RUclips? What’s it called?

    • @burneracc5397
      @burneracc5397 2 года назад

      @@mason3872 no unfortunately but we'll soon put it out, thanks my brother

  • @AggressiveTendencies
    @AggressiveTendencies 4 года назад +158

    Hey all, Brad here with some clarifications:
    When I said we are part of the metal media gatekeepers and we need to make a call for a band like Gatecreeper, despite being relatively new, I meant we could (should?) take a stand for what we believe in and declare them as a key band. It also pained me then to disqualify Blood Incantation based on similar criteria.
    Speaking of Blood Incantation, there have been comments from people asking about why we say they only have one album. This was filmed in September and was actually the first episode filmed for Lock Horns Redux, so thanks for sticking by us as we work out some of the kinks. Also for forgiving us when the edit crossed of their logo when Sam was talking about Bloodbath, haha!
    People have commented about my face when Rivers of Nihil get in, not Gatecreeper, and I just want to clarify that I have mad love for RON, but it was the application of a rule to disqualify bands (Gatecreeper and Blood Incantation) that didn’t apply to RON. That being said, I do believe Blayne’s comment about how RON had THAT album, which Gatecreeper hasn’t yet, did soften the blow. I do think it’s a bit unfair because Gatecreeper’s first album blew up so big, as did their second (IIRC it broke the Relapse site on pre-orders), so I think despite not having the IT album of a given year, I think they are equally valid as RON. Mad love for both, though.
    Also my bad on saying Decapitated headlined the first year of Summer Slaughter. I was incorrect. They played directly under Necrophagist there!
    One of the raddest things is the diversity of what “modern death metal” means to people. When I was first asked to do this, I thought it was going to touch a lot more on the new school of old school death metal, including bands from Maggot Stomp (Sanguisugabogg, Frozen Soul, Vomit Forth, Encoffinized, Unurnment, Abraded, Malignant Altar), 20 Buck Spin (Tomb Mold, Witch Vomit, Acephalix, Scorched, Fetid, Cerebral Rot), Redefining Darkness (Wretched Fate, Sentient Horror, Plague) or Relapse (Outer Heaven, Genocide Pact, Gatecreeper). There were plenty of bands in the live premiere that I wished we had cover. Take, for example, Aborted! Obviously I love that band (have you seen the 2010s episode, in which I say they released my favourite album of that decade?), but I think I had my blinders on with what I thought we were doing, so I didn’t think to go with a band who started more in on the grind side, similar to how someone else brought up Cattle Decapitation!
    I feel bad I forgot Converge from the three life-changing bands on my graphic, and I guess that’s because I included Sum 41, whom were actually on there as my first CD. Converge is my favourite band of all time. I love Converge!
    I appreciate you all watching and reading. Much love always.

    • @kristiankrastanov5995
      @kristiankrastanov5995 4 года назад +8

      k

    • @scottmagrath
      @scottmagrath 4 года назад +5

      Sum 41 are cooler than Converge

    • @fishcultJF
      @fishcultJF 4 года назад +2

      Watching this, I was waiting for you to bring up Aborted. Definitely a tough call for this episode, too many great fucking bands. Honestly forgot about Disma (good album, dislike the dude though, much like those two Incantation albums)

    • @oscarsaucedo7887
      @oscarsaucedo7887 4 года назад

      Let me send you some merch fam check you Enterprise Earth new album he’s was the first singer of infant annihilator and was on their first album back in 2012 take notes

    • @Gatordad1717
      @Gatordad1717 4 года назад

      Aggressive Tendencies hey bud. Did you guys forget about Gojira or leave them out because they aren’t modern death?

  • @darklordalone
    @darklordalone 4 года назад +61

    Death Metal \m/ suggestions: Death, Immolation, Suffocation, Necrophagist, Morbid Angel, Nile, Autopsy, Deicide, Obituary, Kadavar.
    02:00 Introduction
    09:14 Origins
    15:13 Melodic Death Metal
    22:03 Death Metal Sub-genres
    28:22 Essential Modern Death Metal part 1
    36:15 Behemoth, Black or Death?
    42:08 Gatecreeper
    46:00 Bands under consideration part 1
    51:44 Bands under consideration part 2
    57:21 Tech Death
    1:01:14 Essential Modern Death Metal Part2

  • @summonerovthaguttercypt4205
    @summonerovthaguttercypt4205 4 года назад +70

    The 2 Necrophagist albums (Onset of Putrefecation and Epitaph) definitely opened the floodgates on an era of hyper technical and highly produced death metal.

    • @erickmazur807
      @erickmazur807 4 года назад +2

      Epitaph was really the album that got me into death metal. I used to hate it lol

    • @icipher6730
      @icipher6730 4 года назад +2

      Epitaph is not really a "highly produced" record though. It was produced by Bob Katz, who is primarily known for working with jazz and classical musicians. It's has a natural and unusually warm sound production with pretty high DR, which is a far cry from a majoriy of modern tech death releases.

    • @Nothing-bl7bj
      @Nothing-bl7bj 4 года назад +1

      That ain’t wrong.

    • @6idangle
      @6idangle 4 года назад +1

      Agreed I was listening to stabwound the other day and was thinking just how fucking ahead of the curve they were about 20 years ahead of time.

  • @Idontknowone1able
    @Idontknowone1able 4 года назад +12

    Revocation should totally be on the list of essential. Dave Davidson is one of the best songwriters in metal hands down.

    • @Anthony-nk4ky
      @Anthony-nk4ky 2 года назад +4

      Guy has no shortage of killer riffs and solos. Definitely essential

  • @williamblake1666
    @williamblake1666 4 года назад +44

    I think that one of the most underrated bands in this genre is Hipocrisy, and they absolutely deserve to be mentioned in this discussion. Their tone on albums like Virus and The Arrival is the best representation of how modern death metal should sound. And Peter Tagtgren should be acknowledged for his work as a producer with bands like Amon Amarth, Septicflesh and Belphegor

    • @Hegder
      @Hegder 4 года назад +14

      100 per cent Hypocrisy, though they might have formed a bit too long ago (?). Also, Tagtgren's vocals on Bloodbath's Nightmares Made Flesh is one of the best death metal performances ever.

    • @mikeycfc4638
      @mikeycfc4638 4 года назад

      Peter needs to be mentioned a lot more when it comes to a legends of metal conversation. He perfects everything he touches

    • @Rattles02
      @Rattles02 4 года назад +1

      @@Hegder My favorite Bloodbath!

    • @BDeClue18
      @BDeClue18 4 года назад +1

      williamblake1666 I saw them live one time thankfully and they were amazing. Binge listened to them for at least 2 weeks after that

    • @williamblake1666
      @williamblake1666 4 года назад

      @@Hegder yeah you are right, they formed a long time ago, but it's about their evolution and the evolution of their sound

  • @134josu
    @134josu 4 года назад +76

    Blood incantation is leading the scene, Gigan, Portal, Chthe’ilist within others

    • @shawnsmith8558
      @shawnsmith8558 4 года назад +10

      Don't fprget Pyrrhon really underappreciated IMO So happy you mentioned Gigan! and Chthe'ilist are awesome from my city :)

    • @shawnsmith8558
      @shawnsmith8558 4 года назад +2

      @mooky sure cthe'ilist takes a lot of inspiration from Demilich (who I love btw), but if you look at other genres of metal there is a lot of copying and refining.... this is super abundant in stoner and doom metal, that doesnt devalue the band though I havent seen all that much "evolution of" or massive innovation of DM this past decade, it's a lot of fine tweaking

    • @obrerorebelde3579
      @obrerorebelde3579 4 года назад +1

      Definitely Blood Incantation and Gigan... Excellent suggestions!👌

    • @passionateintrovert
      @passionateintrovert 4 года назад +1

      Pretty sure this was filmed before Blood Incantation’s second album was released. Also, just because they are spearheading the underground currently doesn’t make them influential yet. Not saying they can’t be in that position eventually, but as the crew mentioned, they’re simply too new still.

    • @lucasbrito8578
      @lucasbrito8578 4 года назад +1

      yeah totally. I would put Tomb Mold on this list too

  • @stephenkeddy6849
    @stephenkeddy6849 4 года назад +106

    Dying fetus is the most essential death metal band I can’t believe wasn’t even mentioned!

    • @twelvegaugeslug7840
      @twelvegaugeslug7840 4 года назад

      Stephen keddy You are sooo right

    • @Lord_Raptor
      @Lord_Raptor 4 года назад +27

      Maybe as far as influences, but they probably weren't mentioned cuz they're not modern.

    • @ridleysomeliana-lauer5814
      @ridleysomeliana-lauer5814 4 года назад +26

      This is about modern death metal. DF has been around and releasing music for over 20 years.

    • @twelvegaugeslug7840
      @twelvegaugeslug7840 4 года назад +4

      Joey Wheeler Amon Amarth have been also been releasing music since the mid 90s

    • @ridleysomeliana-lauer5814
      @ridleysomeliana-lauer5814 4 года назад +3

      @@twelvegaugeslug7840 fair. I haven't gotten that far into the video, so. But if they're gonna include DF then Amon Amarth absolutely should be there.

  • @durtartworks8220
    @durtartworks8220 4 года назад +16

    I can't imagine debating on modern death metal and like you said, tech death, deathcore, slam death, modern sound... And not at once talking about Dying Fetus wich is probably one of the bands that influenced some bands you talked about.

  • @ingmarfris8175
    @ingmarfris8175 4 года назад +51

    Portal is definitely a band that needs to be recognized.

    • @Astral_Wave
      @Astral_Wave 4 года назад +3

      Fucking yes!

    • @passionateintrovert
      @passionateintrovert 3 года назад +6

      Very true, but at the same time they’re so singular in their sound that no one else has really been able to sound remotely like them, which kind of fucks up the whole influence factor lol

    • @vgmaster9
      @vgmaster9 3 года назад +3

      @@passionateintrovert Well there are bands that are sorta similar, like Grave Upheaval and Impetuous Ritual.

    • @Astral_Wave
      @Astral_Wave 3 года назад +2

      @@passionateintrovert
      Abyssal
      the ominous circle

    • @karllux-d6g
      @karllux-d6g 2 года назад +1

      and re-categorized, if you please.

  • @FlabbyPigLegs
    @FlabbyPigLegs 2 года назад +2

    Here’s my list as someone who grew up through the 2000s. You could not go to a death metal show without a Deathcore band being on the bill. Later those Deathcore bands were even headlining such as Whitechapel at Summer Slaughter 2011. Death metal as a genre splintered off into 3 directions “core” “technical” and “brutal” with Behemoth really being the only popular “blackened” band. For this reason a list that incapsulates all these styles and fusions is needed to accurately depict what was happening in the scene ie, the record label signings, the shows, the shirts everyone was wearing etc. Of course Death Metal had its underground bands such as Dead Congregation but this didn’t hit big until the OSDM revival 2016-Present. Here’s the list of the bands I would say had the most influence on their respective sub death metal genre:
    1. Necrophagist (Technical)
    2. Whitechapel or Suicide Silence (Core)
    3. Devourment (Brutal)
    4. Meshuggah (Groove)
    5. Children of Bodom (Melodic)
    6. Cattle Decapitation (Grind)
    7. Fleshgod Apocalypse (Symphonic)
    8. Opeth (Progressive)
    9. Behemoth (Blackened)
    *Notable bands playing more of a extension of Death Metal rather than a subgenre
    1. Kataklysm
    2. Nile
    3. Abysmal Dawn
    4. Skinless
    5. Dying Fetus
    6. Aeon
    *Although Vital Remains and Bloodbath had a huge influence in the 2000s Bloodbath was more a supergroup dedicated to the Old School Swedish sound, and Vital Remains hit its popularity with Glenn Benton on vocals so both bands are coming from the 90s end of the spectrum. Although they had unique sounds it wasn’t really new blood like say Opeth was.

  • @VampiricLight95
    @VampiricLight95 4 года назад +30

    Kinda surprised that nobody talked about Septicflesh at all...or even symphonic death metal as a sub-genre.

  • @malicious_beast8765
    @malicious_beast8765 4 года назад +7

    Some of my favorite death metal bands will always be Spawn of Possession, Hour of Penance, Odious mortem, Severed Savior, Deeds of Flesh, Vital Remains, Decrepit Birth, and Necrophagist.

  • @MuddyRavine
    @MuddyRavine 4 года назад +17

    Slugdge, Hath, Dyscarnate, Gorod, Xoth, Xenobiotic

    • @farouqseder9870
      @farouqseder9870 4 года назад +3

      Muddy Ravine slugdge and xoth just made their own amazing sound hope it evolves into something of its own as big as everything else!

  • @nuclearthrasher666
    @nuclearthrasher666 4 года назад +2

    My top modern death metal bands.
    Active: Dead Congregation, Grave Miasma, Obliteration, Blood Incantation, Teitanblood, Vassafor, Diocletian, Ulcerate, Venenum, Portal.
    Inactive/Split up: Kasmos, Repugnant, Morbus Chron, Witchrist, Antediluvian

  • @kafkavox
    @kafkavox 4 года назад +9

    I’m really surprised that the conversation about modern death metal bands didn’t include Job For A Cowboy, The Faceless, Psycroptic, Aborted and Decrepit Birth. All bands that really need to be part of the conversation.
    Too much emphasis here on old school bands and name dropping as many new/underground bands from the last 3 years as possible. How can Bloodbath, Gatecreeper, Sanguisugabog, Blood Incantation, etc he mentioned multiple times and bands like JFAC never even come up. Was so looking forward to this episode and I’m honestly pretty let down by it.

    • @darklordalone
      @darklordalone 4 года назад

      g0d_0f_w4r JFAC in my opinion is more metalcore than DM at all. The Faceless is pure TechDeath with some electronic sounds.

    • @brandonrichardson8681
      @brandonrichardson8681 3 года назад

      Because they weren't that good

  • @johnfadden6690
    @johnfadden6690 4 года назад +8

    Rivers Of Nhil, Gatecreeper, Blood Incantation, Tomb Mold, Gruesome...sooo much great new death out there I can't even keep up 🤘

    • @Ms666slayer
      @Ms666slayer 4 года назад

      Depending on the color text of why they see as modern Death Metal bands like Tomb Mold and Gatecreeñer could be out, because they played Old School style Death Metal, so in Modern Death Metal we talk about bands that are new to the scen or bands with new modernized sound like Blood Incantation or Decapitated, Black Dahlia Murder etc.

  • @pinkmotorazr
    @pinkmotorazr 4 года назад +29

    Can’t mention modern death metal without mentioning any/all of the bands signed to Maggot Stomp.

    • @AggressiveTendencies
      @AggressiveTendencies 4 года назад +9

      I definitely mentioned that a few times. I wish I got to talk about it more. When I first heard about this episode, I thought that was the focal point...the new school of old school death metal! I was pumped. Still happy we got to talk about these bands, but godDAMN did I want to highlight the STOMP more.

    • @misaeltamayo8702
      @misaeltamayo8702 4 года назад +1

      Chris Misenti FROZEN SOUL!!

    • @Killchain44
      @Killchain44 4 года назад +1

      No weak shit!

  • @sadekx5251
    @sadekx5251 4 года назад +3

    I have learned that Metal and Music in general is generational. I grew up in the golden age of DM (88-92) and I am still giving new bands A listen but nothing brings me more joy than the OGs.

    • @tjcaruthers5593
      @tjcaruthers5593 4 года назад

      I started listening to death metal in 92. Trying to listen to newer bands as well like after watching this episode and listened to Dead Congregation and those guys are definitely old school modern death metal. They are freakin riff machines. Blood Incantation is cool too. For along time the newest thing I would listen to was Nile.

  • @JakeFreeman256
    @JakeFreeman256 4 года назад +23

    I’m not sure they would qualify as “essential” but if you’re talking about The Black Dahlia Murder, I feel like you also have to at least mention Job for a Cowboy. They were in the same position as TBDM in that they were a band that led a lot of people from deathcore to death metal and vice versa, plus they get lumped into deathcore (like Dahlia) because of the time they were coming up. Obviously they’re a bit different since they played a key role in inventing deathcore in the first place with the Doom EP but they immediately turned into a straight forward death metal band (maybe even tech death?) once they released Genesis.
    They were pretty big for a few years even after the transition made all the deathcore kids lose interest and they had a pretty big impact on the metal scene as a whole so I think they at least deserve a name drop.

    • @mikemindy
      @mikemindy 4 года назад +4

      It was crazy to me that there wasn't one mention for JFAC in the whole discussion when they had Whitechapel and Black Dahlia who all came up at the same time.

    • @jimbowen8973
      @jimbowen8973 4 года назад +3

      @@mikemindy Totally agree with that comment. Those bands all came up about the same time and JFAC is definitely as influential as TBDM and way more so (IMHO) than Whitechapel.

    • @Nothing-bl7bj
      @Nothing-bl7bj 4 года назад +3

      They aren’t death metal. Love em’ one of the few deathcore bands I really like.... but they are not death metal

    • @jimbowen8973
      @jimbowen8973 4 года назад +3

      @@Nothing-bl7bj I don't necessarily disagree with that...BUT - all I am saying (and original commentor was) is that if you are going to mention other bands that might walk the line between genres - like TBDM, White Chapel, Cattle Decap, etc. - how do you not even mention JFAC? Not saying they should be one of the 5 bands considered essential to the genre - just saying these guys mentioned a ton of other bands that all came out about the same time as JFAC and they probably should have at least been included with those bands.

    • @thesvc2006
      @thesvc2006 4 года назад +5

      @@Nothing-bl7bj they are post DOOM ep. listen to sun eater and tell me that's not straight up technical death metal. nothing 'core' about it.

  • @RealAlkey
    @RealAlkey 4 года назад +14

    Hypocrisy, Kataklysm, Dying Fetus and Nile absolutely got snubbed. I agree with Amon Amarth, The Black Dahlia Murder and even Cattle Decapitation with their newer stuff. But to not even include Nile or Hypocrisy or Kataklysm is just weird to me, and as big as Dying Fetus is its hard to see them not even getting a mention.

    • @deadmentellnotales8772
      @deadmentellnotales8772 4 года назад +5

      ^^^ This
      Dying Fetus, Nile, Kataklysm and Hypocrisy! these were some of the bands that came out just after the wave OSDM bands and I think they all kinda picked up the torch in a way

    • @RealAlkey
      @RealAlkey 4 года назад +1

      @@deadmentellnotales8772 Exactly

    • @jerk1078
      @jerk1078 4 года назад

      preach

    • @nicklee6422
      @nicklee6422 4 года назад +1

      Dying Fetus definitely came to mind for me

    • @berserker8884
      @berserker8884 4 года назад +1

      Especially Nile for me, Anihilation of the Wicked is easilly one of my favorite albums of all time.

  • @cruel_cosmos
    @cruel_cosmos 4 года назад +20

    Death Atlas is the most thunderous, intense, emotional, heavy music I've ever heard. It's my favorite album of all time, and it was a game changer for me.

    • @TheCryptCrawler
      @TheCryptCrawler 4 года назад +3

      More than agree with you on that. Blasting it since it came out. Best album by Cattle Decap, period!

    • @cruel_cosmos
      @cruel_cosmos 4 года назад +3

      @@TheCryptCrawler I can't even count how many times I've listened to that album. It hits home on a lot of subjects that are important to me, and Travis's lyrics are incredible. There's no one like them 🤘

    • @freq9939
      @freq9939 4 года назад +1

      Saw them live in nyc back in December. Killer live band just fantastic!

    • @cruel_cosmos
      @cruel_cosmos 4 года назад

      @@freq9939 That's a huge goal of mine, need to catch them live. I need to see papi Travis and the gang live. Also, seeing Dave Mcgraw drum live would be amazing, he's insane

    • @gavdann1
      @gavdann1 4 года назад +9

      "Favourite album of all time"? That's a big call for an album which is only a few months old. Personally I thought it was a bit of a let down. IMO Anthropocene is a lot better.

  • @taylorr5075
    @taylorr5075 4 года назад +38

    Gatecreeper! They stick to the roots essential to the genre, but are giving it a modern sound with crisper production than what was available in the 90s.

    • @Shrieking_In_the_Void
      @Shrieking_In_the_Void 4 года назад +4

      Gatecreeper is a snorefest

    • @Rattles02
      @Rattles02 4 года назад +3

      Love them too! Been digging them since I discovered Sonoran Deprivation a couple years back.

    • @lordbelow1311
      @lordbelow1311 4 года назад +3

      Gatecreeper is not a snorefest, Gatecreeper is Hipster Death Metal. Think Deafheaven.

    • @saadsaif821
      @saadsaif821 4 года назад

      @Jesus Christ Denton haven't thoroughly heard much from them, but just like in late 90s metalcore plethora bands started ripping off at the gates blueprint at first instance gatecreeper and baest are ripping off bolt thrower / dismember / grave blueprint of sound (so not too overtly unique, I suppose why reinvent a tried and tested formula). I would rather place full of hell, aborted and cattle decapitation, in the category as to me they have unique shifts and travel-cross various boundaries of death metal / grind nuances to give their own modern interpretation of the sub genre.

  • @ericfranklin9332
    @ericfranklin9332 4 года назад +3

    COFFINS in my opinion meets all of your parameters while definitely on the slower side are criminally underrated and just there choice of cover songs alone makes them more interesting to me than some of the more popular choices

  • @allstopblue5717
    @allstopblue5717 4 года назад

    I just LOVE these discussions, really, really love it. I don’t have enough buddies willing to discuss metal on this level. I live vicariously through whomever is in those comfy chairs. Keep up the great work! Old format being live was great too though honestly,

    • @berserker8884
      @berserker8884 4 года назад

      Same. Im the metalhead guy in my friends group. And I do have a friend who is also mainly a metalhead, but Ive massively influenced his taste and so I feel like we lack some diversity in conversations.

  • @larsrasmussen5690
    @larsrasmussen5690 4 года назад +7

    Blood Incantation, Contrarian, Horrendous are the best modern death metal.

  • @HarhanDerMann
    @HarhanDerMann 4 года назад +22

    Gruesome, decapitated, Krisiun, Suffocation, Entrails, Sinister, Necrot, Memoriam and ofcourse Fleshgod Apocalypse

    • @shawnsmith8558
      @shawnsmith8558 4 года назад +13

      Krisiun, Suffocation and Sinister are all too old, they aren't modern death metal bands considering theyve all been dropping albums since the early 90s..

    • @TJCombo67
      @TJCombo67 4 года назад +6

      Suffocation is 100% in the OG category, but they are still relevant and actually have morphed their sound into a much more modern sound.

    • @Lord_Raptor
      @Lord_Raptor 4 года назад

      Glad someone mentioned Gruesome. I'd add Gravebomb and Amputory as well.

    • @HarhanDerMann
      @HarhanDerMann 4 года назад

      @mooky nothing wrong with playing in an old style. They still have sick songwriting

    • @HarhanDerMann
      @HarhanDerMann 4 года назад

      @mooky well define modern then, I think if they put out a first album around the late 90s they are modern

  • @bshadows420
    @bshadows420 4 года назад

    I'm fairly new to the death metal scene and am still learning quite a bit from very knowledgeable folks such as yourselves, but I can definitely say that I agree with the five bands chosen to rep modern death metal, in that they have most definitely created a big impact and each stand out in their own unique way.
    That being said, this was another great watch from the banger crew and a lunch break at work well spent. Thank you once again for all that you do. Hails and horns from AZ. \m/

  • @calebneff5777
    @calebneff5777 2 года назад +4

    48 minutes in and I can’t believe no one has mentioned Aborted, Nile, or Dying Fetus! To me they started what we would call modern death metal! Great production, ridiculous imagery, and a greater focus on songwriting.

    • @maideni666
      @maideni666 Год назад +1

      Aborted are awfully derivative

  • @saadsaif821
    @saadsaif821 4 года назад +2

    Black crown initiate, disentomb, decrepit birth, farmakon, rivers of nihil, obscura, misery index, cattle decapitation, cephalic carnage etc are probably what i'd put in this category.

  • @tjcaruthers5593
    @tjcaruthers5593 4 года назад +1

    First off Blayne was bringing it in this episode. His debates, his opinions, and knowledge shined so my hat is off to you man; awesome. Modern death metal had me thinking Tomb Mold, Blood Incantation, Horendous, and Rivers of Nihl not nessacerily Black Dahlia Murder, Amon Amarth, or Cattle Decapitation. Those older bands are getting close to the 20yr mark. Hard to call any album from a band that came out almost 20yrs ago essential when the word modern is thrown in. Not to say a discussion about those bands shouldnt be continued, but if this episode was called New Millinium Death Metal or post Y2K Death Metal then Cattle Decap, Black Dahlia, and Decapitation would fit into the theme. Mordern Old School Death Metal should be talked about bands that have 5-7 years of existence and thier music. Just my opinion.

  • @alexmartin51
    @alexmartin51 4 года назад +18

    You can tell it killed Brad having Gatecreeper denied for being too new then Rivers of Nihil end up making the cut hahahaha

    • @AggressiveTendencies
      @AggressiveTendencies 4 года назад +11

      I loveeee both of those bands, but I was disappointed that GC got disqualified for that, while RON didn't. Blayne's statement about RON having THAT album, which GC arguably don't, did soften the blow a bit because I do think there's some validity to that, but I also think GC might not have THE album because the respect and demand was SO high off the first album. Hell, I'm pretty sure 'Deserted' crashed the Relapse site on pre-orders, so I think they've earned the position!

  • @tarmantim3015
    @tarmantim3015 4 года назад +18

    I think Hate Eternal is essential modern death metal

  • @richardgamrat1944
    @richardgamrat1944 4 года назад +1

    Ulcerate, Portal, Mithras, Pyrrhon, Gigan, Ad Nauseam, Imperial Triumphant (if you don't count them more as black), Coma Cluster Void, Artificial Brain

  • @superunknown2812
    @superunknown2812 4 года назад +17

    I miss the style and production of 90s death metal for sure thats when death metal was at its peak

  • @deftones3138
    @deftones3138 4 года назад +1

    I’m a huge fan of Lock Horns and am really pleased with the final band selection (except for one of them) despite the few times during this video when I was perplexed and/or pulling my hair out. Then again, that’s partially what makes Lock Horns great.
    I’d replace the one bad band selection (Rivers of Nihil for obvious reasons) with Behemoth. BUT- if we are saying Behemoth is black metal (even though they’re totally not) then the 5th band in my opinion needs to be Gojira or Nile.
    Led led the way for the face melting bands that are brutal, fast, and technical. They’ve also put out all their best stuff after 2000, with only their debut being pre-2000.
    Gojira (not one of my personal favorites but I respect them) are talented, dedicated artists who consistently put out great albums post-2000 that were well-crafted, dark, beautiful, melodic, and technical. They also reached a very wide audience compared to many of the bands we’ve been mentioning.
    One tangent I won’t go down but would be a fun one: the bands that aren’t quite old school, not modern, but definitely gave birth to modern death metal (Suffocation, Cryptopsy, Dying Fetus, the melodic Swedish era, Vader, Krisiun, Exhumed, Gorguts).
    That’s my two(?) cents, anyway. Great vid. I disagree with many of the complainers.

  • @peteplayz8058
    @peteplayz8058 4 года назад +6

    Horrendous, Contrarian and Blood Incantation are three wisemen of modem death metal. A true understanding of the old with a new approach. You guys should have a discussion about this.

    • @larsrasmussen5690
      @larsrasmussen5690 4 года назад

      Yes, This is a very good observation! @bangertv, all these bands like GateCreeper, Tomb Mold, etc are very REGRESSIVE, it is very dangerous to set these as leaders, especially on a genre built on evolving craft competence!

  • @PrimateNine
    @PrimateNine 4 года назад +5

    I'm kind of blown away Gojira didn't get a mention. I consider them death metal. Formed in 2001. Legends.

    • @Lord_Raptor
      @Lord_Raptor 4 года назад +2

      You're the second person I've seen mention them. I love Gojira, but never thought of them as death metal.

    • @gkezele
      @gkezele 4 года назад

      yeah I love Gojira too, not really what I would call death metal though...I would call them progressive groove if anything

    • @mangogoat4691
      @mangogoat4691 4 года назад +1

      Michael Patterson first albums definitely had a big death metal influence.

    • @PrimateNine
      @PrimateNine 4 года назад +1

      @@mangogoat4691 Yeah, that's what I was thinking. They definitely have a good amount of death metal influence. 100% not a standard death metal band by no means. I do think they have just enough in there throughout their career to warrant at least a mention by one of the guys on the show. They were talking about multiple sub-genres being what defines modern death metal, and I think Gojiras brand of progressive/groove/death is a prime example of the modern evolution of the genre.

  • @shawnsmith8558
    @shawnsmith8558 4 года назад +4

    Some bands I love - Obliteration, Pyrrhon, Gigan, Dead Congregation, chapel of disease, blood incantation, Horrendous, Aeternam, Teitanblood, cthe'ilist, etc

    • @fishcultJF
      @fishcultJF 4 года назад +1

      CHAPEL OF DISEASE!!!! Fuck yes dude!

    • @shawnsmith8558
      @shawnsmith8558 4 года назад +1

      @@fishcultJF it just sounds so unlike everything else death metal!

    • @fishcultJF
      @fishcultJF 4 года назад +1

      @@shawnsmith8558 For sure! Great band, their most recent album is killer!

  • @haroldstaam
    @haroldstaam 4 года назад +18

    30 minutes in and no mention of suffocation or incantation. early 2000s set the new bar for modern death metal.

    • @darklordalone
      @darklordalone 4 года назад +5

      Brutal Death Bands like Suffocation or Incantation doesn't deserve to be call "Modern" coff*main*coff*stream, these bands are in "Death Metal Hall of Fame".

  • @cratagus4602
    @cratagus4602 4 года назад +2

    Goatwhore and Misery Index should have a mention in the discussion as well. Two diverse and well rounded bands that have significant sound and considerable following= a mention at least. At least by your criteria anyway...
    Cheerz from Vancouver. DM forever

  • @TJCombo67
    @TJCombo67 4 года назад

    Great episode guys. Very well done. I haven’t been a huge fan of the newer Lock Horns episodes, love the old live debates, but I thought this episode was very well done.

  • @Max_Pez
    @Max_Pez 4 года назад +8

    *starts talking about Bloodbath, puts up Blood Incantation logo*

  • @ErikB71
    @ErikB71 2 года назад

    My take on this is that modern death metal is comprised of multiple sub genres like melodic death, technical death, death core, progressive death, death doom, modern versions of old school death... etc. Modern death metal is not one specific style, its a variety of subgenres. That is how it evolved from early old school death metal - it branched out into subgenres. One band worthy of mentioning that wasn't included in the discussion is Suffocation. They were one of the first bands that really took technical playing to an extreme level. As for melodic death metal, I agree that Amon Amarth was one of the pivotal ones, but another one that deserves mention is Dismember. They were also one of the first bands of the next generation of death (90's) metal who took the raw brutal old school sound and incorporated melodic elements into it.

  • @tysontillotson2275
    @tysontillotson2275 4 года назад +19

    The fact that literally NO ONE mentioned Vastum makes me sick.

    • @ceannairereibiliunach8133
      @ceannairereibiliunach8133 4 года назад +5

      bands like that would fly over this channels collective heads cos of shyte like amon amarth lel

    • @nickmarshall9982
      @nickmarshall9982 4 года назад +2

      I have never even heard of Vastum, just checked them out and I dig it. Thanks!

    • @nickymetal666
      @nickymetal666 4 года назад

      Official Purge was so fucking good!

    • @mcnuttwhack4377
      @mcnuttwhack4377 4 года назад +1

      Pretty much everything about this episode was nausea-inducing.

    • @tenacious_JB
      @tenacious_JB 4 года назад +1

      @@ceannairereibiliunach8133 sarah did should out vastum though in one of her reviews

  • @natewatts8080
    @natewatts8080 4 года назад +11

    Revocation are a great modern death metal band

    • @erickmazur807
      @erickmazur807 4 года назад +1

      My favorite band of recent years

    • @dylandonis4590
      @dylandonis4590 4 года назад +1

      Saw them live last weekend, too bad the venue was terrible and it was just ridiculously too loud. Was looking so forward to it

  • @omerta3854
    @omerta3854 4 года назад +5

    Death metal has definitely evolved, from political lyrics and gory content to more statement making concepts, we have had and still have our incredible forefathers of death metal making their mark in the death metal scene but modern bands today have mixed multiple sounds,concepts and have added a lot of their personality in their music, every band now has a very unique way of writing death metal such as gojira, obscura,Arch enemy, decapitated and many more..

  • @davidposadas8802
    @davidposadas8802 4 года назад +3

    Blood Incantation’s November release is Super sick. Definitely recommended for fans of that old-school analogue sound.

    • @jyotiwilkinson2617
      @jyotiwilkinson2617 4 года назад

      Totally agree - if you are going to listen to any recent Death Metal release this is a must

  • @rexxcolt7689
    @rexxcolt7689 4 года назад +1

    brad loves deathcore so much i love it haha he brings it up in almost every convo.

  • @georgedyckiii3465
    @georgedyckiii3465 4 года назад

    This new format is great, there's more intelligent discourse; lots of thorough thinking and arguments (but dialectic so it still feels organic) besides just name dropping for an hour! Keep up the great work!

  • @empireofrage6382
    @empireofrage6382 4 года назад +1

    I really believe that VITIOL has brought so much to the table when it comes to death metal. They are just utterly intense and brutal. A great “Modern Death Metal” band.

  • @scottwillis7559
    @scottwillis7559 4 года назад

    I feel like bands like Suicide Silence, All Shall Perish, Necrophagist, and even Job For A Cowboy all had a huge roll in forming today's Modern Death Metal bands like White Chapel, Shadow of Intent. Bands like Lamb of God, and even Slipknot I feel like really brought Metal into a more popular scene. You have your consistent bands that have evolved over the years (Cannibal Corpse for instance. Black Dahlia) that are still go-to for hardcores. I'm a tattoo artist and when I ask people what music they like and they say "metal", I have to say "Okay, do you mean Slipknot, or "real" metal/death metal, and if they don't know extreme music, they almost always say "Slipknot". I feel like Slipknot doesn't get enough credit for what they've done for Metal music over the years. They've really helped bring a lot of bands into the mainstream. Through tours, or just through their own popularity. People like their music and say to themselves "I like this, I want to find more like it".

  • @terriblecertainity
    @terriblecertainity 4 года назад +1

    Portal, Gigan, Artificial Brain, Archspire, TBDM, Beneath The Massacre, JFAC,Braindrill..that would be my picks for modern death. basically, bands that picked up what Gorguts started on "Obscura"

  • @kevinkuypers9445
    @kevinkuypers9445 4 года назад

    Really cool discussion, I really enjoy these kinds of videos!
    I think, it would've been worth to mention 3 more bands: dying fetus, meshuggah and gojira - especially the last two have clear death metal roots, but spawned a whole new direction of sub genres.

  • @EquipmentShedPodcast
    @EquipmentShedPodcast 3 года назад

    I came here just to listen to people talk about The Black Dahlia Murder. I wasn't disappointed. And I also have new bands to check out. Sweet video.

  • @GrahamAndersonis
    @GrahamAndersonis 4 года назад +1

    This is great. Thoughtful and informative. Bravo, and more! Certainly, worth re-subscribing at Patreon. I do hope Bangar puts effort into bands disinterested in re-interpreting the past. Extreme music is vast-the 90’s can’t contain it!

  • @The_Lord_Of_Confusion
    @The_Lord_Of_Confusion 4 года назад +3

    summer slaughter 2007 - Mohammad talking about the new album comming out by 2008... yeah, those were the times

  • @PrimateNine
    @PrimateNine 4 года назад +2

    Hell yeah. Love these dudes doing this topic. Cant wait!

  • @princealigorna7468
    @princealigorna7468 2 года назад +1

    Am I the only one that really loves Creeping Death?

  • @austerymn
    @austerymn 4 года назад +8

    I’ve not read all the comments but the “Bolt Thrower” picture is actually Benediction 😂

    • @BangerTV
      @BangerTV  4 года назад +1

      whoops

    • @smcordy
      @smcordy 4 года назад

      I was immediately looking for Jo Bench and then laughed at myself for being played

  • @TheEleventhLetter
    @TheEleventhLetter 4 года назад +4

    Gorguts should definitely be of some reference. I could agree that their impact is not directly concerning Death Metal, because DSO took the recipe and expanded upon, but the sheer originality is quite clear. I would also agree that they would tap in some spaces that are more clear, or represented, in the Black Metal realm but the originality they brought to the genre is undeniable. That notion, in some sense, of a meditative death metal was, until then, quite absent.

    • @personavisceration371
      @personavisceration371 4 года назад +1

      I would add Pan.Thy.Monium to that list along with Portal, all 3 bands have a strong gravitational pull on the scene nowadays.

    • @Ms666slayer
      @Ms666slayer 4 года назад +1

      I would say modern stuff Gorguts, because their first album where some really good but generic Death Metal from their time Obscura was the album.m tha hinted their new direction and Colored Sands was the kickstarter of thee new progressive wall of sound style, and Pleiades Dust it's their current peak

    • @doomusrlc
      @doomusrlc 4 года назад +1

      @@personavisceration371 Pan Thy Monium: using sax since before Rivers of Nihil made it cool

  • @Holisticbarbarian
    @Holisticbarbarian 4 года назад +8

    Gonna throw one band in there that I feel should have gotten at least a mention, if not a spot in the top 5. Nile. Annihilation of the Wicked was an absolute masterpiece and is still a relevant album in modern technical death metal.

    • @trve_ingvar
      @trve_ingvar 4 года назад

      Again, not really modern, they've been around since the late 90s

    • @Holisticbarbarian
      @Holisticbarbarian 4 года назад +1

      @@trve_ingvar by those standards Amon Amarth and Decapitated should be excluded too, they've been around even longer. Their stipulations were basically over the last 20 years. Nile, and especially Annihilation of the Wicked fits that bill perfectly. I don't think the length of being a band has much at all to do with "modern" as long as(in their opinion) it's not too short of a period to make an impact. Nile has exactly what it takes to be included.

    • @trve_ingvar
      @trve_ingvar 4 года назад +1

      @@Holisticbarbarian yeah, that is true, I guess Dying Fetus could have been there as well, so many great bands!

    • @Holisticbarbarian
      @Holisticbarbarian 4 года назад +1

      @@trve_ingvar so true, Dying Fetus would have been a great addition to that lineup. I think in their case there were just too many bands to discuss and they got caught up in a smaller segment. Kind of a case of not being able to see the forest for the trees.

    • @berserker8884
      @berserker8884 4 года назад

      Heck yes!

  • @voiceofunreason
    @voiceofunreason 4 года назад +5

    I think Death should be included as an essential modern death metal band. Hear me out on this, while they are widely considered the founding fathers of death metal is that the first 3 albums sound nothing like their middle 2 or last 2. The Sound of Perseverance came out in 1998 right before the internet boom and that album lyrically, and musically was something more than death metal had seen previously and IMO hasn't seen since. Going even further back, I'd even say that Human by Death should be considered "modern" for all intents and purposes with the inclusion of more prog elements musically while having lyrics that are more introspective and less gore/horror themed.

    • @SeymoreSparda
      @SeymoreSparda 4 года назад

      Though I think that you have a solid point in regards to this matter( especially if we we're to dissect it scientifically), I have another. Riddle me this; if a person said that he or she is looking that old school prog death sound, Horrendous is a great suggestion for such a question, don't you think? There are stark differences between the old school and the new school, the modern,if you will, death metal, don't you think? IMO, Obscura is one of the founders of modern dm. But still, my point doesn't automatically render yours untrue. Like, Death,amongs other things( ehem2,Atheist), begat Obscura. Wait till you see the dispute between what's Nu Prog, and Neo Prog, and Post-Prog!Lol.

  • @fmainier
    @fmainier 4 года назад +13

    Modern Death Metal is not a genre. It’s just Death Metal released recently. Agree with the comment “stop creating genres”.

    • @Nothing-bl7bj
      @Nothing-bl7bj 4 года назад

      Fabio B.M. Na

    • @SOASwig
      @SOASwig 4 года назад +2

      I don't think that's what they are doing here. Just like they did an episode on 'early death metal', this is just a discussion on the most important bands in the modern era

  • @deathstruggle4136
    @deathstruggle4136 4 года назад +4

    Behemoth was my entry gate to black metal, although they're blackened death metal. But after listening to those guys I started listening to black metal. One of the most important and in my opinion highly underrated death metal band is Kataklysm.

    • @aaronm1483
      @aaronm1483 3 года назад +1

      Blood on the swans! 🤘👹🤘

  • @fishcultJF
    @fishcultJF 4 года назад

    Great episode, it really is difficult to say who are THE DEFINING bands in this era of death metal and a lot of folks, including myself are mentioning bands who'd be considered "too new". I have to agree with the five listed, especially (because I'm biased and love them) Cattle Decapitation. TBDM and Amon Amarth sure, both are really fun bands, who doesn't love Nocturnal and With Odin on Our Side. Decapitated is a good pick. Rivers of Nihil may be "too new" in the sense that their breakout album was not long ago but it was really fucking good, they are the next Opeth.

  • @ToastedCigar
    @ToastedCigar 4 года назад

    I think your list is excelent! Now we need Essential modern black metal bands

  • @doomusrlc
    @doomusrlc 4 года назад +4

    "Let's be careful not to leapfrog these older bands"
    *keeps talking about Amon Amarth that have been around since early 1990s*

    • @earthrot666
      @earthrot666 4 года назад +1

      that was low key bothering the s#$t out of me lol formed in 92, had demos out in 93 and 94. modern in what sense?

  • @martenwahlstrom2001
    @martenwahlstrom2001 4 года назад

    I feel that Tomb Mold really deserves to be in the top 5. That is simply because of how important they are to the modern sound. They are really spearheading the modern death metal movement, and most newer bands want to sound like them and Blood Incantation.
    This modern death metal movement will also leave its mark on the scene simply because of how different it is. It is old school in a sense yes, but instead of going back to Morbid Angel, Cannibal Corpse or the Swedish scene, they went to Timeghoul and Incantation. Two bands that we haven’t seen the impact of until now with Tomb Mold and co. This, in my mind, will keep the movement relevant for years to come, and Tomb Mold is really the quintessential name out of all these “cavernous death metal” bands.

  • @DavidIngramOSDM
    @DavidIngramOSDM 4 года назад

    Regarding the photo at 4 mins 50 seconds: I can safely vouch that I am better looking than Karl Willetts. But me and the rest of the Benediction guys appreciate the promotion, since we're getting a new album out in the next few months. Want an Skype interview?
    Oh yeah, your show kicks ass. Nice one!

  • @davetbassbos
    @davetbassbos 4 года назад +1

    I saw Gatecreeper live about a year and half ago, actually the last time I had a drink (they had nothing to do with it, lol) fantastic show and I hadn't heard any of the bands, glad they are doing well!

  • @TechnoirGraphix
    @TechnoirGraphix 4 года назад

    Talk about living in the moment, shooting straight, and speaking the truth. Don't ever doubt yourselves guys. Everything about this particular show was spot fuckin on. Metal philosophy is born by Banger.

  • @CeoTHULHU
    @CeoTHULHU 4 года назад

    Rivers of Nihil, 1914, Gomorrah, Vail of Pnath, Iscsriot, and Vitriol are some of my favorite heavy bands right now

  • @jarunia17
    @jarunia17 4 года назад

    Thanks to subgenrization we can call Behemoth blackened death :) Also Horrendous has put out 3 stellar albums since 2014, might be too young but still one of my favourites. This was a great watch/listen, thanks for the discussion guys :)

  • @chrishyde8906
    @chrishyde8906 4 года назад

    I’m in the “old guy” boat w/ Sam, so this was highly informative. Really loving Horrendous. Thanks dudes.

  • @brandonrichardson8681
    @brandonrichardson8681 3 года назад +1

    Amon is a really good group. Definitely original. I put them on the cusp of old, and modern

  • @shadowboy813
    @shadowboy813 4 года назад

    It's easy to tell that Sam and I come from a similar age because the first two albums that came to mind on this topic are Winds of Creation from Decapitated and Onset of Putrefaction by Necrophagist. But other modern death metal albums that I think that signal a second wave would be early Faceless, Dying Fetus, Black Dahlia, Amon Amarth.

  • @gavdann1
    @gavdann1 4 года назад +9

    I don't really get the case for including Amon Amarth just because they're popular. They don't have a modern approach to making DM. They sound very traditional, not much technicality and they've never really pushed any boundaries.

    • @erickmazur807
      @erickmazur807 4 года назад +3

      I always found them boring as hell.

    • @doomusrlc
      @doomusrlc 4 года назад +1

      This is my problem essentially as well. They were around with the other melodic bands in the 1990s just made it big after the others had their success. However I do feel they are an important band, especially when talking about gateway bands. But in the context of what this video was about, hell no.

    • @Lord_Raptor
      @Lord_Raptor 4 года назад +2

      Even though I'm a huge Amon Amarth fan, I have to agree. They're the ACDC of death metal. They found a sound and stuck with it.

    • @deadliestassassin3092
      @deadliestassassin3092 4 года назад +1

      Here's my main problem we're looking at modern death metal bands but putting Amon Amarth, The Black Dahlia Murder, Decapitated under modern is too weird for me. When i think of modern i'm thinking of current new generation of bands. Decapitated started out sounding like Vader and then went more technical and groove later. They were modern like almost 20 years ago lol. Same with Black Dahlia Murder, they were more into the At The Gates style at the time with a more modern approach. I feel the discussion should of been more into the newer bands with todays modern sound. These bands are not modern at all. The new generation should get more of a chance instead of getting pushed aside.

    • @passionateintrovert
      @passionateintrovert 4 года назад +1

      The discussion definitely veered too far into the 2000-2009 territory. I would have preferred this video stuck to the last 10 years as it fits the “modern” tag better. Maybe they’ll redux the redux down the road?

  • @iL_Lybertariano
    @iL_Lybertariano 4 года назад

    Excellent sibling program with a big hello and strong metal hug from Venezuela ... South America

  • @nisinduperera7130
    @nisinduperera7130 4 года назад +3

    "We'll probably wake up next day and feel different"
    That's so true
    One day I'm arguing with someone and next day I feel like I'm agreeing with him/her
    Pretty weird right?
    Maybe because it's human nature to change/evolve

    • @tjcaruthers5593
      @tjcaruthers5593 4 года назад +1

      Could be the topic. The modern death metal subject is making me LOCK HORNS!!!!!!!!!

  • @dangerass1982
    @dangerass1982 4 года назад

    You mentioned Bolt Thrower and showed a photo of Benediction. Party foul.
    Favorite death metal bands of this millennium: Dead Congregation, Cruciamentum, Krypts, Lantern, and Grave Miasma. I wanted to include Funebrarum, but they're '99.
    Honorable mentions: Vanhelgd, Bastard Priest, Faceless Burial, Adversarial, and Chthe'ilist.

  • @kianraz4129
    @kianraz4129 4 года назад

    As far as I'm concerned, there was a turning point between 2000 and 2010 were Death war mixed with metalcore with bands like Maroon, Born from Pain. They were much more -core than death but it started the shift. Black Dahlia when arrived was a huge turning point because they had Swedish sound but with a "brand" that was 100% core, skate board, nerd. Then you have Tech Death which comes from Polish Death scene with bands like Decapitated, Hate, Behemoth, Trauma, Sceptic, etc. Vader was a huge turning point for the Polish Modern sound because between the death of Docent and the start of Daray, the sound had changed so much, even at concerts, you had 90% kids suddenly. Devourement was also a turning point for slam death with 1.3.8.
    All this to say that if you want to put a tag on a band, Modern Death exists properly since 5 to 10 years, not more. Modern for me is to take all these turning points above and the sound suddenly became a little of Slam, definitely more technical, maybe more melodic for some, and all of this gave a new Death sound.

  • @personavisceration371
    @personavisceration371 4 года назад +4

    Maybe this should be called 'contemporary death metal' as a movement, 'modern death metal' is a style.

  • @tmp1k
    @tmp1k 2 года назад

    nice to see winds of creation mentioned. got me reinvigorated with death metal when it came out. still a go-to death metal album for me personally.

  • @sameddy2729
    @sameddy2729 4 года назад

    MySpace 2005 the biggest thing to hit metal/ death, justthrough networkig, and sharing, and also the rise of the daws , being able to record at home with quality. The most influential thing in metal

  • @LyrsideBand
    @LyrsideBand 4 года назад +3

    In my opinion, Obscura is the greatest death metal band of more than the last decade, since they exploded to the face of the world in 2009 with their already all time classic « Cosmogenesis ». Let me explain.
    (i) First of all, they made the ultimate synthesis of the greatest death metal bands in History and all the sub-genres of death metal. Obscura incorporated to “classical old school US death metal” (like Morbid Angel or Suffocation ; listen to Ocean Gateways for example) the “old school technical and progressive death metal" (like Death, Cynic, Atheist, Atrocity or Gorguts) but also the “old school swedish death metal” (like In Flames, Dark Tranquillity, At the Gates....) and, of course, the “modern technical European death metal” (Necrophagist is the model, with 2 ex members who joined Obscura in 2008 : Hannes Grossman and Christian Muenzner ; but also Gorod for example). And just for this, just WOW. There are SO MANY influences in their music. They are the representants of all this diverse legacy of death metal. Obscura is, in my opinion, the only band to have such a diversity in the music they made. I can even hear sometimes some old school swedish death/black melodic metal like Dissection, Sacramentum or Unanimated in the riffing.
    (ii) Then, their leader and main composer, Steffen Kummerer, is Chuck Schuldiner direct descendant. The way he sings, the way he writes songs. OMG. Listen to “Incarnated” or “Akroasis”. To me, it just sounds like if Chuck were still alive and making music with Death, following the path of the modern death metal he created with Human in 1991.
    (iii) This guys are making some of the best instrumentals songs I’ve ever heard. Just listen to "Orbital elements" or "The origin of primal expression"… blow-minding.
    (iv) The Obscura members are some of the greatest metal artists. Steffen Kummerer is freaking amazing. On lead guitars, Christian Muenzer is a god, and their new one Rafael Trujillo is even better. On drums, Hannes Grossman is probably the best extrem metal drummer currently, and their new one, Sebastian Lanser, is also a fucking beast. On bass, Jeroen Paul Thesseling and Linus Klausenitzer are just genious.
    (v) Their legacy in technical death metal is just amazing. 5 albums, 4 masterpieces (from Cosmogenesis in 2009 to Diluvium in 2018). They are the fathers of bands like Beyond Creation, Rivers of Nihil, Horrendous etc. Their message has crossed through generations : technical yes, but always at the service of an exceptional artistic and melodic vision. They also democratized “fretless bass” in extreme metal”, wich is amazing.
    (vi) I saw Obscura live a few days ago in Metz in France. They are just AWESOME live, one the the greatest death metal band to see live. Their show is amazing.
    That’s why Obscura is the ultimate modern death metal band.

    • @omerta3854
      @omerta3854 4 года назад +1

      Hell to the yeah!

    • @darthjason7019
      @darthjason7019 4 года назад +1

      Obscura is the most essential modern death metal band. The main person behind the innovation is Hannes Grossman. He is just too good. His post Obscura music is even better . With his self title band Hannes Grossman and Alkaloid he just keeps raising the bar.

    • @LyrsideBand
      @LyrsideBand 4 года назад +1

      Darth Jason yes Hannes is just amazing... ! Totally agree, appart of incredible skills in drumming, he’s also an awesome composer as you said, in his own project and with Alkaloid.
      But even without him, Obscura still make masterpieces. Akroasis and Diluvium are fucking good album. And that’s because Obscura is mainly the project of Steffen Kummerer and this guy has so muchhhh taste to write subtil, catchy and technical song. He composed probably the best Obscura songs : Incarnated, Emergent Evolution, Akroasis.

  • @thery8
    @thery8 4 года назад +8

    I'm surprised they haven't mentioned Obscura (Gorguts) as the cornerstone of perhaps a new subgenre: Dissonant death metal, with bands like Ulcerate, Deathspell Omega, Imperial Triumphant, etc.
    Could there be a chapter dedicated to this 'new' sound?

    • @richardgamrat1944
      @richardgamrat1944 4 года назад +3

      It seems they just don't care about this kind of (tech) death. They are fine with jerking of on Rivers of nihil because omg they used saxophone! Holy shit!

    • @liquidzuel2321
      @liquidzuel2321 3 года назад +1

      Don't mention Desthspell Omega, you'll make Blayne cry.

    • @ConvincingPeople
      @ConvincingPeople 2 года назад

      DsO aren't really a death metal band. They've had a clear influence on parts of the genre, and definitely take after Gorguts in certain key respects, but they are fundamentally an unusually technical black metal band. Same with Imperial Triumphant. Dissonant black metal and death metal, as they are sometimes called, are totally things that exist and are closely related phenomena, but for the most part they are distinct, with the whole "cavernous death" phenomenon surrounding Portal and their disciples being a point of overlap as well as its own thing in turn.

  • @Bemwidood
    @Bemwidood 4 года назад

    Now this felt like a lockhorns video! Great job! Almost feel like modern death metal paralleled new wave of american heavy metal with the diversity.

  • @brunosipavicius7867
    @brunosipavicius7867 4 года назад +8

    I love cattle decapitation because of its ecological and gore speech I hope you guys talk about them. In new death metal I know just them. From Brazil.

    • @MJ-ed7is
      @MJ-ed7is 4 года назад +1

      I thought you are from Lithuania :)

    • @brunosipavicius7867
      @brunosipavicius7867 4 года назад +1

      @@MJ-ed7is 😊my father's family is from there. He came to Brazil as baby escaped from communist URSS. My grandgrandfather was exiled in Siberia for 40 years. His name was bronius Sipavicius, like mine but in Lithuanian language.

    • @MJ-ed7is
      @MJ-ed7is 4 года назад +1

      @@brunosipavicius7867 Yeah, Sipavičius :)

  • @PauloJorgeMonteiro
    @PauloJorgeMonteiro 4 года назад +1

    Interesting is that I still come here to search for Death Metal bands. :)

    • @brandonrichardson8681
      @brandonrichardson8681 3 года назад

      I shared my old album. The band was Core of Desolation. Then I put up a song by my old lead where he stole my song. He keeps doing. Rewriting them, and putting them under a different name.
      Macabre Eternal

    • @brandonrichardson8681
      @brandonrichardson8681 3 года назад +1

      Interment from Dallas Texas!!! There a lot like cannibal corpse though

  • @Razieleatssouls
    @Razieleatssouls Год назад

    I would have put either Nile or Dying Fetus in that fifth spot. They were huge and influential since back in that "modern" era and still hold their status today.

  • @pong86r
    @pong86r 4 года назад

    I got into metal again because of Revocation and Rivers of Nihil and then finding Cattle Decapitation was so extreme! i love it! Great list. Wondering why bands like Exhumed never seem to get any love? maybe "best live performances"?

  • @summonerovthaguttercypt4205
    @summonerovthaguttercypt4205 4 года назад +1

    I would say my favourite modern death metal bands are Gatecreeper, Necrot, Tomb Mold, and others like Genocide Pact and Creeping Death. Then there are other great death metal bands that are kind of modern but not really when you think about what year their first releases came out, like Cattle Decapitation and Nile.
    There are tons more but I just havent gotten around to listening to them, looking forward to the episode so I can learn about some new ones and add more to "the list".

    • @THEEArmoredSaint
      @THEEArmoredSaint 4 года назад +1

      I love every band that you mentioned, especially Genocide Pact, whom I've seen live twice and will see every time they come to the area. I think they are an amazing young death metal band.

    • @summonerovthaguttercypt4205
      @summonerovthaguttercypt4205 4 года назад +1

      @@THEEArmoredSaint fukk ya! I caught them live only once so far, on the Dying Fetus tour.

  • @Groovy213
    @Groovy213 4 года назад

    I know diddly squat when it comes to modern death metal (hell, death metal in general), but I can't believe Drawn And Quartered were not mentioned. They're unbelievably consistent and write unbelievably good songs and truly deserve a spot on the list

  • @jarunia17
    @jarunia17 4 года назад

    Don't know if tech-death will get in here, but Archspire are the definition (to me) of MODERN death metal and deserve much love. On the less crazy side but definitely just as good I'd put Horrendous out there. Also Brad would surely appreciate Replacire for their Dillinger-esque writing sensibilities. I'd go on for much longer but I'll let the guys do the talking :)

  • @doomtank666
    @doomtank666 3 года назад

    My three favorite new discoveries are Corpsessed, Glacial Tomb and Proscription.

  • @hahagostei
    @hahagostei 4 года назад

    Job for a cowboy deserve to be mentioned, they are in a hiatus right now, but their last album is considered by many one of the best death metal release in the last decade, to me is a album so great as the last Rivers of Nihil, is possible that JFC is coming back soon and, in case they release a album as good as the last one or even the other albums, they will become once more a relevant band and maybe a big name in the scene.

  • @j.p.lovecraft1826
    @j.p.lovecraft1826 3 года назад

    Here’s my thoughts since you asked. Often, I’ve been asked, “Why the hell would anyone create or even listen to death metal? It’s pointless and it’s not artistic.” Or something like that. I always just answered that it’s because it’s awesome but the truth, according to my thoughts anyway, is this: Life reflects art and art reflects life. You can’t understand or truly appreciate life without death. Therefore, art must also reflect death. So it is true art, a form of it anyway. That gives it all the legitimacy it needs. You may not like it, (who likes death?) but you can’t deny that it is art. And the fact that it has had a resurgence or has morphed to thrive in the modern era speaks to its power. And there’s no denying it takes talent, cohesive technique between musicians and actual fluidity on the instruments. Death metal is but a shard in the mirror that reflects existence. It’s undeniable. Horns!

  • @caseyfelella7450
    @caseyfelella7450 4 года назад +3

    Man, I miss lockhorns being live.

    • @caseyfelella7450
      @caseyfelella7450 4 года назад +2

      And the magnet board for the album covers.

    • @MaddDogg316
      @MaddDogg316 4 года назад +2

      @@caseyfelella7450, I didnt really care about it being live or not, but they need to bring back the magnet board.

  • @phaseinducer
    @phaseinducer 3 года назад

    I was into Impaled and a bunch of Razorback Records type death metal in the early 2000s. Acid Witch, Tombstones, good stuff. 🤘