Perhaps some of you have missed the point of this exercise. The D.I. was trying to trip the ARMY Academy Cadet by getting him to break his military bearing. Military Bearing which means remaining in accordance with ARMY traditions and protocols. The D.I did an excellent job and as well the cadet. This was a dual, the Cadet won. He remained RESOLUTE, like any officer should.
Great job by the cadet AND the DIs. Same comment as I had on the other vid from this inspection -- the cadet stuck to his protocol, and the DIs stayed full throttle when they were on him. Well, about 50% throttle, as any of us who remember "Black Friday" in boot camp will recall. No foot lockers to throw around the parking lot.
Aaaah! Great to see Marine Corps DI's living up to their reputation of being the most highly motivated people on the planet and not giving up on Marine Corps Customs and Traditions. From a retired Army Vet. Gotta give props to the Corps, always respected those guys.
The platoon that was inspected was from the United States Military Academy, which is a "UNITED STATES ARMY" school. Students who go there are called "CADETS".
@Inmate2587 The DI said to scream all the cadet did was say "yes, sir" no scream not even any freakin effort to sound off correctly, the DI even showed him how to scream when he went "AAAAHHHH !!" multiple times and the cadet just went "yes, sir" not even an "aye aye sir"
Regardless of culture differences, SCIDM rules say they must comply to the evaluators orders. Competitors must adapt to the climate and culture, not the other way around. H. All Judges have final say during competition procedures and disputes. Argue with them at your own peril. 1. If a judge request a team to use different words than those found in the SOPs, cadets and midshipmen must comply.
for anyone confused the billet of inspecting officer is held by the drill instructor. he is a marine. he supercedes the cadet. the cadet is requires to show all customs and courtesies prescribed by the drill instructor and in turn the marine corps. if the d.i. says scream aye sir scream it.
two things: 1) according to regulations, the cadet outranks the DI, just like a 2LT outranks a MSG. A cadet would not order an NCO around, just like no sane 2LT would order a MSG around. 2) The DI is yelling at the cadet solely to find out if he is undisciplined and will crack under pressure. The DIs are likely impressed with his ability to decline the order given to him at the time of the inspection based on the orders given by his section leader. ... like a boss
Honestly he was in the right, the DI's live to fuck with cadets and midshipman so he was testing his loyalty and giving the company commander shit for a reason. I know a lot of people think that this is unprofessional but I would bet that this companies CO probably told them to do this. So to end the war, DI's are intense and West Point is a great school, it's only the ignorant people that don't understand that we all use each to sharpen each other.
Kevin Tanos A CADET is higher ranking than a NCO?? NOT TRUE!! A cadet has NO POWER until they have graduated from being a CADET and become a COMMISSIONED OFFICER. Don’t make comments that are simply not true!
@Dale Ross @Trevonteie Thornton the AR 600-20, Army Command Policy, which makes it pretty clear that West Point cadets do, in fact, outrank Army NCOs. This regulation shows that cadets rank after commissioned and warrant officers, but before NCOs. " Senior regularly assigned Army Soldier refers (in order of priority) to officers, WOs, cadets, NCOs, specialists, or privates present for duty unless they are ineligible under paragraphs 2-15 or 2-16."
@@CoachKirbyUGA the AR 600-20, Army Command Policy, makes it pretty clear that West Point cadets do, in fact, outrank Army NCOs. This regulation shows that cadets rank after commissioned and warrant officers, but before NCOs.
active duty Marine here, the DI didn't lose his cool or let the cadet get to him, they were putting the cadet under as much stress as possible and see how he would handle it. as the phrase goes "courage under fire" as the platoon commander he is expected to be the leader of his men regardless of the situation. simple as that
The cadet was from West Point. It's a cadet drill team. If he had obeyed the initial "yelling" orders, his team would have gotten deductions. It's a tactic, to see if he falls for the old screaming DI bit. He didn't, because he's a well-trained cadet. Nice job cadets. :)
+Texas Patriot that is not true, I served in the Marines from 2009 to 2013 and I saw on 2 separate occasions army recruiters that were next door to the marine recruiting Station while I was in. one in California and the second in North Carolina. we had a saying, the US is small but the military is even smaller
I'm glad to be a member of the Marine Corp Junior Reserve Officer Training Corp (MCJROTC) prior to getting into West Point. Why? I will follow all orders given to me at all times no matter what branch someone is in. Keep in mind that we (Navy/Army/Marines/Airforce/National Guard/Coast Guard etc...) are all fighting to protect our American way of life.
In no way am I agreeing with the West Point cadet or the Drill instructor in this video, except that they both did great in keeping their professionalism.
If they truly are west point cadets. They technically out rank the DIs. I served at West point. They have no authority to give orders to anyone but lower class cadets. So he actually did the right thing. Followed army policy, and maintained professionalism. The marine however came off as a dumb ass.
It's funny to see everyone's postings. When I was in Sub School I saw a bunch of guys with Aircraft Belt Buckles and I asked where did they get them? They were all on Aircraft Carriers and had so many bad moment and saw many killed doing their routine duties.
The DI is doing the evaluation, he holds the billet over the cadet. Cadet has to follow the orders as long as the orders are lawful, which they were. Plus, the evaluation sheet had 'aye aye sir', the cadet failed his evaluation.
The whole thing is meant to be funny, and it is! Army, Marine Corps! But the joke at the end is hilarious! God Bless the people in all of our services, Army, Marine Corps, Navy, Air Force, Coast Guard. btw...DEVIL DOGS RULE
This is just seems inappropriate to me. Why is the Marine D.I. yelling at Army guys trying to make them say Aye Aye sir? Why doesn't he just try to make them sing the Marine's Hymn? I'm ex-Navy and sometimes we said Yes Sir, and sometimes we said Aye, Aye sir depending on the circumstances, but Army guys don't say that. I don't want Army guys saying Aye, Aye sir, it's our special thing (Navy and Marines)!
military bearing is almost non .existent,,,maniacal non military behavior/harassment..... definitely reserve DI's..uniform unsat ......yep pretty sure substandard.
evans johnny this is extremely disrespectful. the d.i is the inspecting officer and gave a lawful order. you clearly have little knowledge in military matters when it comes to inspection
evans johnny You're a piece of shit to talk that way about a Marine Corps drill instructor. Top ten percent if the Marine Corps wear that campaign cover. They are as fierce as they are legendary. If anyone could cause the cadets to lose their bearing, its the DI. Ever wonder why they didn't call on army drill sergeants?
That guy is going to give himself a heart attack. They put on a good show. I had a hard time to keep from laughing during boot camp at Parris Island. It was a great experience though. Semper Fi !!
What'd the Drill Instructor do at the end -- write "Aye aye" on a sheet of paper? Cracked me up! Good on the Cadet for sticking with what he's supposed to do. I think you guys were right -- he would've failed if he had lost his bearing and caved to the pressure.
thanks alot sgt . your answer clears up why you were there . i was just commenting that the reason that cadit's answer was answered with yes sir was because he was in the Army who answers with yes sir & not like the Marines who's service answers with Aye aye sir ..... thank you and thanks for serving our country well ......
We are all on the same team. I'm a US Army Soldier and completely respect the Marine Corp. We trained together in Ramadi and fought side by side as well. We are both equally trained, The only difference is pride. Both sides always claim to be better but no one is. We need you and you need us.
It's part of the evaluation. The drill instructors have to try and break down the cadets bearing. So far the cadet was doing a good job by holding his bearing.
I think that vid you're referring to is also Marine DI's and West Point cadets, but its a different platoon and a different inspection team. That one, btw, shows how the cadets are supposed to do it.
i can tell you right now the drill instructors at the end of this were more than likely impressed of the kids discipline. the only reason why they're freaking out and making a big deal about it is because THEY DO THAT WITH EVERYTHING. it's their job. they tried to break this kid down and he didn't budge.
He was using his sense of humor. You won't last long as a member of the military without one of those. Smiles aren't necessary but I'm sure on a higher quality camera or from a different angle you may have seen a grin.
My dad's buddy was an E6 and got a commission. When he went to receive training, his DI yelled at him constantly while being only an E5. He outranked him in both enlisted rank and by his status as a cadet. DI's are superior to all military who are in training.
I completely agree with you, I've reviewed my regulations and corrected myself. According to Army Command Policy a Cadet (USMA/ROTC) is ranked above Enlisted Personnel and Officer Candidates(OCS/WOCS), however, Cadets are not entitled to a salute. This is strictly Army Policy, I can't speak for the other services.
This is an exercise from the Southern California Invitational Drill Meet - The purpose of this questioning was for the evaluation of the expertise, poise, and discipline of the individual members of the team. Straight from the competition's website: "Answers will be given in a military manner representative of the team’s particular service."
There is another video where he responds "I will respond if so ordered". The DI orders him to say Aye Aye Sir and he does it. The way i understand it the Squad is placed under the DI's command for the duration of the inspection. If he tells you to do something your supposed to do it.
the DI tested the cadet's bearing... and since the cadet never changed, the DI passed him... the only thing afterwards that was ordered was "what does this say? it says Aye Aye sir"
That was the point, it was test. He wasn't actually butt hurt, he was just making sure that the Cadet did what he was supposed to do without cracking. Since it was a competition and attentiont to detail was paramount, the Cadet and his team probably did well on that part of the evaluation.
No, Nikk, it usually depends which ROTC Program you're in if its NROTC or MarineROTC they say Aye sir, but if they're in the Army ROTC program they just say yes sir, but we don't know what he's taught in general when it comes to answering authority and what is suppose to say to those E5 DI,.
If somehow you thought I implied that Marine Corp drill instructors were from the Army, you are wrong. It also seemed that the drill instructor was also genuinely pissed off(you know outside of standard DI behavior) that the cadet incorrectly tried to correct him. The cadet was also still in the wrong, even though he kept his bearing, the DI corrects the cadet by showing the evalution sheet which probably says to respond to commands with "Aye, aye, sir."
In the Marines, yes and no are used to answer questions. Aye or Aye Aye Sir or Mam is used in response to an order given to you. The Marine DI gave the cadet and order and he was replying with yes sir, the DI was telling him to say aye aye... also the cadet said "As you were" and I think he was supposed to say "As I was" because he had made a mistake in his speech. The reason Marines say that in that fashion is because we're a department of the Navy and use Navy speech.
Phrase aye aye, sir (idiomatic, nautical) The correct and seamanlike reply, onboard a Royal Navy (or U.S. Navy) ship, on receipt of an order from someone of senior rank or authority. It means "I understand the command and hasten to comply with the order."
1.) Marines hold respect for Marines first and foremost and if they are feeling generous they'll give a subtle nod toward the other branches of the U.S. Military. 2.) I assume that at the Drill Meet they had each competing team get graded by someone from another branch to ensure fairness.
That is the proper way to say it. It is not insulting or disrespectful to say, "As you were" simply means "never mind what I just said" and is said when you mess up a command,answer,etc.
Current, prior service LT here. We do not salute under arms unless it is for D&C and we do not salute in doors unless it's for D&C or reporting. Not sure why an Army Officer would "yell at you for not saluting in doors"?? Source: AR 600-25
At least until after graduation from boot camp. Then they may be addressed by their full rank (if, for example the DI is a Staff Sergeant, they MUST be addressed as "Staff Sergeant" and not merely "Sergeant". That may fly in the Army and (sometimes) Air Force, but not the Marines)
Mad props to that guy, those marines should understand how to respect other branches. I laughed so hard watching this, it was like a 2 year old throwing a tantrum.
If you read my comment, I did not say there was a Department of the Marine Corps, that is just redundant. The Marines are in the Department of the Navy, but are not in their branch. There are five branches of the military: Army, Air Force, Marine Corps, Navy, Coast Guard. The Marine Corps IS its own branch.
These guys actually did the right thing, the absolute worst thing you can to when faced with a Drill Sergeant, Instructor or whatever the Navy and Air Force have is change your mind. If you give them an answer stick to it, because if you go along with what they said after calling you out you will be in a world of hurt.
it's what you say when you are given an incorrect or conflicting order. For example; if the drill leader commands Parade-Rest!, and then commands "Forward-March!" that would be cause for the "As you were". It's hilarious that the cadet tells the DI that.
Between the uniforms and what, at 2:14, sounds like the leader saying "United States Military Academy" (it's kinda hard to hear over the DI), I'm pretty sure these are West Pointers.
For those saying good job to the army cadet he did not they actually did not pass. This is SCIDM (Southern California invitational drill meet) where cadets from different JROTC drill teams meet every year and are evaluated by marine DI they are supposed to respond as the marines tell them to regardless of branch or risk being disqualified. This wasn’t a bearing test
I have a son who attends the USMA-WP and I can assure you in the perfermance of their military duties, Cadets are not cocky. The Cadet was doing his duty and to a large extent the Marine DS was testing the young man and I have no doubt after the performance the Marine DS shook the young mans hand. God Bless all who serve our nation.
Thank God I'm not the only one. It really kicked off when he said "As you were." I think the DI felt he was trying to tell him what to do, but I'm confused.
You're the DI in this video? Would you do me a favor and explain what exactly is going on here? I'm having a stupendously hard time making out the audio in this video.
as you were is a statement in the military to say that do as you were doing before. If there was a group of members together and "fall in" was called; meaning that they were called to stand at attention; "as you were" means to go back to the state you were before as in relaxed but ready,
wondered that myself. I was taught that a loud, authoritative, and CRISP response (i.e. Aye Aye Sir !) was best. I dont get that long, drawn out "yessss....sir".
Ah ok thanks, actually after writing this comment I googled "yes sir vs aye aye sir" and found some stuff saying "aye aye sir" means that you have received, understand, and will carry out your orders, but "yes sir" simply acknowledges the superior officer.
I've seen TAC officers do similar. Basically, it's to get you rattled, and see if you'll question your position enough that you'll reverse yourself. One of those lessons I've learned the hard way from a TAC - never reverse yourself. The cadet in the video did it right, stated the regulation he was ordered to follow, and disregarded anything to the contrary. Personally, I was surprised he went as far as calling the NCO "sir". Anywhere I've been, "sir" is reserved for anyone O-1 or above.
The DI really got torqued over 2 things in this video. 1) The Cadet's refusal to follow the order to reply with "aye aye, sir". Which btw, the evaluation sheet says the proper response is "aye aye sir". 2) The Cadet actually said to the DI, "As you were, sir". Now I'm not sure if the Army uses 'as you were' in the same manner as the Marine Corps. We (Marines) often use 'as you were' as a reprimand to back off. Could you imagine telling a DI to 'back off'. ROFL.
when you're in the military, you're taught to everything specifically and whatever you do regardless of whether you're on the frontline in afghanistan and have to make a call to get your guys out of some shit, or something as little as an evaluation like this, you stick by what you decide to do till the day you die. you never think twice about your actions because that could ultimately get you or a bunch of your troops killed. stick by your actions.
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"I HAVE THE CLIPBOARD"!!!!! *smacks head with clipboard*. gets me everytime
The Urbanite As you were, sir!
“As you were sir “was my favorite line
"I'mma show you an evaluation sheet. Read it! What does it say?"
"It says 'Aye aye sir.'"
Drill instructors always win. Always. XD
Perhaps some of you have missed the point of this exercise. The D.I. was trying to trip the ARMY Academy Cadet by getting him to break his military bearing. Military Bearing which means remaining in accordance with ARMY traditions and protocols. The D.I did an excellent job and as well the cadet. This was a dual, the Cadet won. He remained RESOLUTE, like any officer should.
He says aye aye sir
No he was actually trying to recruit the young salute. Did that kid end up even enlisting or getting an associate degree or anything?
Lol if you say so
It should be noted that the DI is a Marine
West Point Cadets, the point of this is to see if they can get him to crack under the pressure of two USMC DIs. He did well.
Not only are the DIs doing their jobs, but give credit to the cadets for holding their bearing regardless. This is why I am proud of our military.
When you can get a Marine DI to just say very well then, you've won.
Great job by the cadet AND the DIs. Same comment as I had on the other vid from this inspection -- the cadet stuck to his protocol, and the DIs stayed full throttle when they were on him.
Well, about 50% throttle, as any of us who remember "Black Friday" in boot camp will recall. No foot lockers to throw around the parking lot.
+BarracksSi I'm surprised they didn't BYOFL
Aaaah! Great to see Marine Corps DI's living up to their reputation of being the most highly motivated people on the planet and not giving up on Marine Corps Customs and Traditions. From a retired Army Vet. Gotta give props to the Corps, always respected those guys.
The platoon that was inspected was from the United States Military Academy, which is a "UNITED STATES ARMY" school. Students who go there are called "CADETS".
@Inmate2587 The DI said to scream all the cadet did was say "yes, sir" no scream not even any freakin effort to sound off correctly, the DI even showed him how to scream when he went "AAAAHHHH !!" multiple times and the cadet just went "yes, sir" not even an "aye aye sir"
"aye-aye, sir" is not a recognized command in the US Army.
Regardless of culture differences, SCIDM rules say they must comply to the evaluators orders. Competitors must adapt to the climate and culture, not the other way around.
H. All Judges have final say during competition procedures and disputes. Argue with them at your own peril.
1. If a judge request a team to use different words than those found in the SOPs, cadets and
midshipmen must comply.
just to clarify. he has the clipboard. your welcome.
Props to the cadet for saying "As you were" to the DI
for anyone confused the billet of inspecting officer is held by the drill instructor. he is a marine. he supercedes the cadet. the cadet is requires to show all customs and courtesies prescribed by the drill instructor and in turn the marine corps. if the d.i. says scream aye sir scream it.
"As you were" is a term used by the Marines to correct a misstatement.
If i said that to my drill instructor he probably would have murdered me
1:58 hehe perfect! One more "yes sir" for good measure!
two things:
1) according to regulations, the cadet outranks the DI, just like a 2LT outranks a MSG. A cadet would not order an NCO around, just like no sane 2LT would order a MSG around.
2) The DI is yelling at the cadet solely to find out if he is undisciplined and will crack under pressure. The DIs are likely impressed with his ability to decline the order given to him at the time of the inspection based on the orders given by his section leader.
... like a boss
That cadet held his bearing beautifully. He did the right thing.
I like little man's sidekick. Reminds me of the Loony Tune cartoons Chester and Spike
I laughed so hard at the end. Lmao, he eventually got him to say it.
Honestly he was in the right, the DI's live to fuck with cadets and midshipman so he was testing his loyalty and giving the company commander shit for a reason. I know a lot of people think that this is unprofessional but I would bet that this companies CO probably told them to do this. So to end the war, DI's are intense and West Point is a great school, it's only the ignorant people that don't understand that we all use each to sharpen each other.
Ha! Gayyy
he said it best at 2:44 "School is not the military"
Cadets are still higher ranking than NCO's thoe but the cadet had great composure
Kevin Tanos A CADET is higher ranking than a NCO?? NOT TRUE!! A cadet has NO POWER until they have graduated from being a CADET and become a COMMISSIONED OFFICER. Don’t make comments that are simply not true!
@Dale Ross @Trevonteie Thornton the AR 600-20, Army Command Policy, which makes it pretty clear that West Point cadets do, in fact, outrank Army NCOs. This regulation shows that cadets rank after commissioned and warrant officers, but before NCOs.
" Senior regularly assigned Army Soldier refers (in order of priority) to officers, WOs, cadets, NCOs, specialists, or privates present for duty unless they are ineligible under paragraphs 2-15 or 2-16."
@@CoachKirbyUGA the AR 600-20, Army Command Policy, makes it pretty clear that West Point cadets do, in fact, outrank Army NCOs. This regulation shows that cadets rank after commissioned and warrant officers, but before NCOs.
@@kevintanos4822 well those are Marines so the policy doesn’t apply.
active duty Marine here, the DI didn't lose his cool or let the cadet get to him, they were putting the cadet under as much stress as possible and see how he would handle it. as the phrase goes "courage under fire" as the platoon commander he is expected to be the leader of his men regardless of the situation. simple as that
The cadet was from West Point. It's a cadet drill team. If he had obeyed the initial "yelling" orders, his team would have gotten deductions. It's a tactic, to see if he falls for the old screaming DI bit. He didn't, because he's a well-trained cadet. Nice job cadets. :)
DI love at its finest! Semper Fi
Be careful Gunny he might be your boss one day. You will get a letter from the pentagon and it will say "My way"
No he wont, The cadet is army the DI is a Marine very very very unlikely they will meet
+Texas Patriot that is not true, I served in the Marines from 2009 to 2013 and I saw on 2 separate occasions army recruiters that were next door to the marine recruiting Station while I was in. one in California and the second in North Carolina. we had a saying, the US is small but the military is even smaller
+Derrick Toland well I meant like actually in service not at the recruiting office.
What if he become a member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff down the road in life?. Then Yes he will be his boss..
+Texas Patriot they were off recruiting duty
I'm glad to be a member of the Marine Corp Junior Reserve Officer Training Corp (MCJROTC) prior to getting into West Point. Why? I will follow all orders given to me at all times no matter what branch someone is in. Keep in mind that we (Navy/Army/Marines/Airforce/National Guard/Coast Guard etc...) are all fighting to protect our American way of life.
In no way am I agreeing with the West Point cadet or the Drill instructor in this video, except that they both did great in keeping their professionalism.
If they truly are west point cadets. They technically out rank the DIs. I served at West point. They have no authority to give orders to anyone but lower class cadets. So he actually did the right thing. Followed army policy, and maintained professionalism. The marine however came off as a dumb ass.
they don't out rank the DI's till they graduate and receive their commission
Casey Sawyer They're not serving anything. They're at a fucking school....you're a dumbass.
It's funny to see everyone's postings.
When I was in Sub School I saw a bunch of guys with Aircraft Belt Buckles and I asked where did they get them?
They were all on Aircraft Carriers and had so many bad moment and saw many killed doing their routine duties.
The DI is doing the evaluation, he holds the billet over the cadet. Cadet has to follow the orders as long as the orders are lawful, which they were. Plus, the evaluation sheet had 'aye aye sir', the cadet failed his evaluation.
The whole thing is meant to be funny, and it is! Army, Marine Corps! But the joke at the end is hilarious! God Bless the people in all of our services, Army, Marine Corps, Navy, Air Force, Coast Guard. btw...DEVIL DOGS RULE
This is just seems inappropriate to me. Why is the Marine D.I. yelling at Army guys trying to make them say Aye Aye sir? Why doesn't he just try to make them sing the Marine's Hymn? I'm ex-Navy and sometimes we said Yes Sir, and sometimes we said Aye, Aye sir depending on the circumstances, but Army guys don't say that. I don't want Army guys saying Aye, Aye sir, it's our special thing (Navy and Marines)!
They're not 'army guys' they're just spoiled military academy students.
"Yes Sir" and "Aye Aye Sir" are two completely different responses. You answer "Yes Sir" to a question and "Aye Sir" to an order.
craw31380
Well ill be dipped in shit. ..now get off my bus and scream aye sir
craw31380 you never say "aye sir" to anything, ever in the united states army.
shut it boot
Way to go Army Cadet. obviously these 2 substandard NCO's bit off more than they could chew
military bearing is almost non .existent,,,maniacal non military behavior/harassment..... definitely reserve DI's..uniform unsat ......yep pretty sure substandard.
evans johnny this is extremely disrespectful. the d.i is the inspecting officer and gave a lawful order. you clearly have little knowledge in military matters when it comes to inspection
evans johnny You're a piece of shit to talk that way about a Marine Corps drill instructor. Top ten percent if the Marine Corps wear that campaign cover. They are as fierce as they are legendary. If anyone could cause the cadets to lose their bearing, its the DI. Ever wonder why they didn't call on army drill sergeants?
That guy is going to give himself a heart attack. They put on a good show. I had a hard time to keep from laughing during boot camp at Parris Island. It was a great experience though. Semper Fi !!
What'd the Drill Instructor do at the end -- write "Aye aye" on a sheet of paper? Cracked me up! Good on the Cadet for sticking with what he's supposed to do. I think you guys were right -- he would've failed if he had lost his bearing and caved to the pressure.
thanks alot sgt . your answer clears up why you were there . i was just commenting that the reason that cadit's answer was answered with yes sir was because he was in the Army who answers with yes sir & not like the Marines who's service answers with Aye aye sir ..... thank you and thanks for serving our country well ......
We are all on the same team. I'm a US Army Soldier and completely respect the Marine Corp. We trained together in Ramadi and fought side by side as well. We are both equally trained, The only difference is pride. Both sides always claim to be better but no one is. We need you and you need us.
your pose @2:18 is priceless. Thank you for what you and your men do!
I know it was a joke he had great discipline. The marine Di play games like that i was pretty impressed. He stood his ground, that's what they want.
It's part of the evaluation. The drill instructors have to try and break down the cadets bearing. So far the cadet was doing a good job by holding his bearing.
I think that vid you're referring to is also Marine DI's and West Point cadets, but its a different platoon and a different inspection team. That one, btw, shows how the cadets are supposed to do it.
i can tell you right now the drill instructors at the end of this were more than likely impressed of the kids discipline. the only reason why they're freaking out and making a big deal about it is because THEY DO THAT WITH EVERYTHING. it's their job. they tried to break this kid down and he didn't budge.
Recruits say "Yes, sir" and "No, sir" in response to questions... "Aye aye, sir" is when they tell you to do something.
shout out to the cadet that stayed true to his branches basic respone
drill teaches obedience discipline and instant obedience to all orders. its vital for making any military people.
He was using his sense of humor. You won't last long as a member of the military without one of those. Smiles aren't necessary but I'm sure on a higher quality camera or from a different angle you may have seen a grin.
My dad's buddy was an E6 and got a commission. When he went to receive training, his DI yelled at him constantly while being only an E5. He outranked him in both enlisted rank and by his status as a cadet. DI's are superior to all military who are in training.
I completely agree with you, I've reviewed my regulations and corrected myself. According to Army Command Policy a Cadet (USMA/ROTC) is ranked above Enlisted Personnel and Officer Candidates(OCS/WOCS), however, Cadets are not entitled to a salute. This is strictly Army Policy, I can't speak for the other services.
I don't get the "As you were sir" part at 0:12. Did the cadet just dis the DI?
He should have started the sentence with "Yes, Sir. It says, 'Aye aye, Sir."
Sorry completely forgot that Marines also say "Aye Aye, Sir"
This is an exercise from the Southern California Invitational Drill Meet - The purpose of this questioning was for the evaluation of the expertise, poise, and discipline of the individual members of the team. Straight from the competition's website: "Answers will be given in a military manner representative of the team’s particular service."
But the DI actually didn't get him to say it. The cadet responded "it says...".
There is another video where he responds "I will respond if so ordered". The DI orders him to say Aye Aye Sir and he does it. The way i understand it the Squad is placed under the DI's command for the duration of the inspection. If he tells you to do something your supposed to do it.
He did. I heard him several times say "Aye Ayr Sir" followed by "You say it my way!".
Have you ever seen the silent drill platoon? That is marine professionalism at its best.
The cadet did well. Good job, cadet!
the DI tested the cadet's bearing... and since the cadet never changed, the DI passed him... the only thing afterwards that was ordered was "what does this say? it says Aye Aye sir"
That was the point, it was test. He wasn't actually butt hurt, he was just making sure that the Cadet did what he was supposed to do without cracking. Since it was a competition and attentiont to detail was paramount, the Cadet and his team probably did well on that part of the evaluation.
No, Nikk, it usually depends which ROTC Program you're in if its NROTC or MarineROTC they say Aye sir, but if they're in the Army ROTC program they just say yes sir, but we don't know what he's taught in general when it comes to answering authority and what is suppose to say to those E5 DI,.
He was given a direct order to say aye aye sir, if given a direct order one must comply, then tactfully correct after.
Should have seen the Angel's stadium in the background...thanks!
If somehow you thought I implied that Marine Corp drill instructors were from the Army, you are wrong. It also seemed that the drill instructor was also genuinely pissed off(you know outside of standard DI behavior) that the cadet incorrectly tried to correct him. The cadet was also still in the wrong, even though he kept his bearing, the DI corrects the cadet by showing the evalution sheet which probably says to respond to commands with "Aye, aye, sir."
In the Marines, yes and no are used to answer questions. Aye or Aye Aye Sir or Mam is used in response to an order given to you. The Marine DI gave the cadet and order and he was replying with yes sir, the DI was telling him to say aye aye... also the cadet said "As you were" and I think he was supposed to say "As I was" because he had made a mistake in his speech. The reason Marines say that in that fashion is because we're a department of the Navy and use Navy speech.
Phrase
aye aye, sir
(idiomatic, nautical) The correct and seamanlike reply, onboard a Royal Navy (or U.S. Navy) ship, on receipt of an order from someone of senior rank or authority. It means "I understand the command and hasten to comply with the order."
1.) Marines hold respect for Marines first and foremost and if they are feeling generous they'll give a subtle nod toward the other branches of the U.S. Military.
2.) I assume that at the Drill Meet they had each competing team get graded by someone from another branch to ensure fairness.
That is the proper way to say it.
It is not insulting or disrespectful to say, "As you were" simply means "never mind what I just said" and is said when you mess up a command,answer,etc.
Current, prior service LT here. We do not salute under arms unless it is for D&C and we do not salute in doors unless it's for D&C or reporting. Not sure why an Army Officer would "yell at you for not saluting in doors"??
Source: AR 600-25
At least until after graduation from boot camp. Then they may be addressed by their full rank (if, for example the DI is a Staff Sergeant, they MUST be addressed as "Staff Sergeant" and not merely "Sergeant". That may fly in the Army and (sometimes) Air Force, but not the Marines)
Mad props to that guy, those marines should understand how to respect other branches. I laughed so hard watching this, it was like a 2 year old throwing a tantrum.
If you read my comment, I did not say there was a Department of the Marine Corps, that is just redundant. The Marines are in the Department of the Navy, but are not in their branch. There are five branches of the military: Army, Air Force, Marine Corps, Navy, Coast Guard. The Marine Corps IS its own branch.
These guys actually did the right thing, the absolute worst thing you can to when faced with a Drill Sergeant, Instructor or whatever the Navy and Air Force have is change your mind. If you give them an answer stick to it, because if you go along with what they said after calling you out you will be in a world of hurt.
it's what you say when you are given an incorrect or conflicting order. For example; if the drill leader commands Parade-Rest!, and then commands "Forward-March!" that would be cause for the "As you were".
It's hilarious that the cadet tells the DI that.
Between the uniforms and what, at 2:14, sounds like the leader saying "United States Military Academy" (it's kinda hard to hear over the DI), I'm pretty sure these are West Pointers.
For those saying good job to the army cadet he did not they actually did not pass. This is SCIDM (Southern California invitational drill meet) where cadets from different JROTC drill teams meet every year and are evaluated by marine DI they are supposed to respond as the marines tell them to regardless of branch or risk being disqualified. This wasn’t a bearing test
I have a son who attends the USMA-WP and I can assure you in the perfermance of their military duties, Cadets are not cocky. The Cadet was doing his duty and to a large extent the Marine DS was testing the young man and I have no doubt after the performance the Marine DS shook the young mans hand. God Bless all who serve our nation.
That he was. It is unlikely that you will ever utter truer words than that.
I'm sure the platoon's instructors would bring up a complaint and demand a retry with a different set of instructors.
It says, "aye aye, sir" aww man, you got me.
we dont say aye aye sir in my hood sarge
Reminds me of Sgt. Carter on Gomer Pyle. Kinda short so he has to be real loud! LOL! Thanks to all of our military personnel!!!!
i came in this video thinking it would be cool if the DI in this video actually responded to the comments. left better than expected
The guys the Drill INSTRUCTOR were yelling at were USMA Westpoint ARMY Cadets. The Drill INSTRUCTORS were both Marines.They aren't Drill Sergeants.
The Marine has filled out an evaluation sheet, he returns to the cadet and tells him to read it aloud, the cadet says "It says 'Aye-aye, Sir'."
Thank God I'm not the only one. It really kicked off when he said "As you were." I think the DI felt he was trying to tell him what to do, but I'm confused.
Man my DI's, especially my SDI, would be tearing into these cadets. Man this is awesome... im not gunna lie, i would lose my bearing.
OORAH Sir
You're the DI in this video? Would you do me a favor and explain what exactly is going on here? I'm having a stupendously hard time making out the audio in this video.
In our special forces training we never scream and get screamed, and we have some of the best european special forces
Also, as an NCO, I only trained commissioned officers.
YES, SIR!
Yeah, it sounds pleasant. Well, thank you for your service, sir.
as you were is a statement in the military to say that do as you were doing before. If there was a group of members together and "fall in" was called; meaning that they were called to stand at attention; "as you were" means to go back to the state you were before as in relaxed but ready,
wondered that myself. I was taught that a loud, authoritative, and CRISP response (i.e. Aye Aye Sir !) was best. I dont get that long, drawn out "yessss....sir".
It looks like he never actually said it as a response, though. The DI told him to read a paper, which he did.
Ah ok thanks, actually after writing this comment I googled "yes sir vs aye aye sir" and found some stuff saying "aye aye sir" means that you have received, understand, and will carry out your orders, but "yes sir" simply acknowledges the superior officer.
I'm glad the reading comprehension section of the ASVAB is in English.
I've seen TAC officers do similar. Basically, it's to get you rattled, and see if you'll question your position enough that you'll reverse yourself. One of those lessons I've learned the hard way from a TAC - never reverse yourself. The cadet in the video did it right, stated the regulation he was ordered to follow, and disregarded anything to the contrary. Personally, I was surprised he went as far as calling the NCO "sir". Anywhere I've been, "sir" is reserved for anyone O-1 or above.
The DI really got torqued over 2 things in this video. 1) The Cadet's refusal to follow the order to reply with "aye aye, sir". Which btw, the evaluation sheet says the proper response is "aye aye sir". 2) The Cadet actually said to the DI, "As you were, sir". Now I'm not sure if the Army uses 'as you were' in the same manner as the Marine Corps. We (Marines) often use 'as you were' as a reprimand to back off. Could you imagine telling a DI to 'back off'. ROFL.
when you're in the military, you're taught to everything specifically and whatever you do regardless of whether you're on the frontline in afghanistan and have to make a call to get your guys out of some shit, or something as little as an evaluation like this, you stick by what you decide to do till the day you die. you never think twice about your actions because that could ultimately get you or a bunch of your troops killed. stick by your actions.
finally figured it out, they are West Point Cadets, they are army and it explains why i haven't seen these uniforms before.