Need To Flex on the Poors? Daniel Defense DDM4V7 vs Knight's Armament SR15. Which One You Grabbin??
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
- TOTALLY KIDDING GUYS! This video isn't intended to upset anyone. Just playing around with some High End Rifles. Which one you grabbin if you got one for free?
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DD is nice, light, and easily recognized. I was at a gun show and every time I saw that DD stock and grips, I'd stop to look at it. DD all day every day
@@HarborSite-7 i love. the stock. lol. bought one for a different rifle.
For a long time, the SR-15 has got to be one of the most appealing rifle to my eyes. If I bought one I wouldn't really be flexing on the poors, because then I'd be living off ramen noodles and rainwater for the next 8 months...
Agreed! Let's just say my credit card companies really liked me for a few months. Lol
DD M4A1 RIS III is my choice.. the latest addition for me. Absolutely love DD rifles..
Also, I saw one of the FDE KAC SR-15 E3 MOD 2's at my LGS some time back.. and tbh, the 'cerakote' they use seems to be absolute crap. It just looked cheaply done (the cerakote/paint job). Some areas the paint was actually appeared to be flaking away, like around the takedown pins, and trigger pins. Just doesn't seem right for a rifle that is going to cost $3.5k.. new. They come from KAC this way..
They also had a Taupe SR-15 that was properly cerakoted. Only the receivers and handguard had the taupe cerakote, unlike the FDE which had overspray everywhere. On the Taupe SR-15, the hardware/parts were still the black anodized color, etc.. Kinda weird.
I'm jealous. I'd love to get me hands on one. Just don't wanna drop the cash right now.
I own both…V7 Pro, MK18, and 14.5 KAC. I can’t say much about the Cerakote since mine KAC is black, but my DD V7 Pro Rattlecan Cerakote is pristine. As far as functionality, I’ll take the KAC Recce setup 100% of the time. The gas system is flawless running suppressed and unsuppressed. Both are great, but one is the clear winner.
Well said sir.
Are you running a KAC suppressor as well?
@@masonsheppard1236 I wish…unfortunately still running my SiCo Hybrid 46
I’m afraid I would go with the DD just because of parts interchangeability, while the internal parts of the KAC might last a little longer than what the internal parts of the DD will that is just the whole problem all of the parts on the KAC are completely proprietary, the barrel on the DD should be good for roughly around 40,000 rounds so I would say your barrel life on the DD would probably slightly outlast the KAC because the barrel life on the KAC should be good for about 25,000 ish rounds but a lot of people have said that the bolt carrier on the KAC is good for around 20,000 rounds. You won’t get nowhere near that from the bolt carrier with the DD but you can always just slap another mil spec bolt carrier in the DD unfortunately you can’t just up and do that with the KAC because it’s completely proprietary and these are the reasons why I would go with the DD over the KAC, sorry I didn’t mean to write a book, lol, just wanted to give a good explanation why I chose the DD over the KAC
Hey man, some times you gotta write a book. Seriously though, good explanation. There are parts of each rifle that have their benefits, but the DD has more longterm benefits at $1,000 less. That KAC is such a smooth shooter tho.
Just the answers I was looking for! Thank you very much for your book, much appreciated! It’s interesting how they clearly try to serve different type of markets and philosophy. I do hate how some companies try to lock in their products to just work in their “ecosystem” Apple! So in this case a brand to have and follow will be DD.
@@d0uble_O it’s not an ar-15 that’s the reason its propriety because everything works together in harmony. I don’t have one but that’s the reason I want one. Plus look at the logo it’s so cool looking. Lol
I made the mistake not to get one at my local rifle gear when they had them in stock and I got the lwrc instead and I have regretted it for years now. Lol
For some reason I think the ddm4v7 is the best because I seen it get run over by a car, I've seen it, get shot with the 12 gauge and still work. I also Saw it get left in mud for a day once and somehow it still worked.
I own an m4v7, and I've shot my buddies kac and it is definitely heads and shoulders better in recoil impulse and overall shooting feel. The gas system is tuned way better.
Agreed. Everyone asks why the KAC is 1k more, and I always say, shoot one, and you'll understand why.
I'll care enough to give KAC $3K of my hard-earned money when they care enough to properly Cerakote my gun. Until then, DD is the clear winner here.
Well said sir. I'm gonna get in touch with their customer service and go down that rabbit hole. For what they charge, the cerakote is very disappointing.
Brownells did that cerakote job didn’t they? Wasn’t KAC I don’t think.
I don't understand why someone wants too pay that much for a paint job that looks like it was done in the garage. Cheap furniture proprietary parts etc. I would take that DD and use the extra money to buy spare parts, upgrade the trigger and such. If you know your way around a rifle you don't need such an over priced hyped up brand of a rifle.
True. I just like high end stuff. I'm pretty disappointed with the cerakote job for sure, but it shoots like nothing I've ever felt.
I'm blown away at that cerakote job by kac. If you can't even do that right....I dunno but my Ddm4 in mil spec + looks just as crisp as yours. DD takes pride in every step of the process. I guess KAC not so much.....
Yeah.. that cerakote job is kinda shoddy. LGS that I frequent here locally has the taupe SR-15 and it looks just like the one shown in this vid. There were spots where the cerakote was cracked and flaking off as well. If you pay that much for a KAC, you would expect much better.. I guess they take the rifle being a 'tool' a little too literally.
Yup. I'm of the opinion that if Daniel Defense do a bang up job of cerakoting their rifle for 2k, then KAC should be able to do it for 3k. Somewhat disappointing.
It's just to easy to do it right and it should be at that price point with so much competition in the market.
I rarely see videos of others that love the milspec+ color i love mine
In my opinion the dd just looks much better let alone the stock it looks very unique with the rubber pattern on it and not to mention this badass brownish bronze color finish.
This is f'd up in so many ways. 🙄
I own a DDM4 V7 and it has been an amazing rifle for me, personally. Although I have been thinking about replacing the charging handle. Would love to hear opinions on a better one.
Radian Raptor for me.
Radian
Just purchased my first ever Daniel Defense DDM4 V7 brand new. Was surprised to see it has a Radian Raptor LT already in it.
DD all days of the week, and nights too.
I’d flex with the KA for a bit, then swap it for 2 BCM’s.
This is the way. Lol
I have an addiction. I buy a lot of rifles. I have battle rifles in 556 from KAC, LMT, HK, BGD, ADM, POF, BCM, DD, LWRCI, SCAR, and Radian. If I could chose only one it’s KAC BABY…all day, every day, and twice on Sunday! The KAC is one of the softest shooting rifles on the market with a precisely gassed castle nut system. The E3 bolt is a major advancement for longevity with rounded lugs, a thinner cam pin with thicker bolt web, and a lobster tailed two spring extractor. All are common failure points on bolts and represent areas of significant advancement. The KAC stands for creamy mama jama smooth butter sweetness.
If you know, you know.
That DD looks beautiful
I bought a KAC Mod 2 14.5. I will say it is the best rifle Ive ever shot. I did put a Vltor A5 - H2 Buffer with it and it just goes. After machine gunning the trigger and it stayed on target I was blown away. Very soft shooting and a nail driver with 75gr 5.56. At this point Im not really looking to buy another rifle for now.
I need to look into an A5 buffer system. I hear good things.
@@dadbodoperator2466 If you do MAKE SURE its a H2 before you click and buy.
KAC has a cool past what with having Eugene Stoner do some of his last work and all but having proprietary parts on an AR platform should be a thing you get tied to a pole and lashed for. Proprietary tools to remove the muzzle device, barrel and upper? Tied and burned, absolutely sickening. Their SR-25 seems cool though being a sniper grade battle rifle and all. Also their QC could use some serious work for a 2gucci4u weapon in terms of what you pay
These are the kind of decisions that made me an AK fan lol
I'm grabbing both - either will get the job done, very nice setup by the way (love the milspec color)
I recently got a DD V7 and she’s real purty….so I’m dancing with the gal I brought. But If I cheat, it’ll be with the SR-15.
😂 hey at least your honest about it.
The gas system on the KAC makes it the winner hands down. Got to shoot it to appreciate it.
I've only got a couple hundred rounds through it, but its the smoothest AR I've ever shot. Hands down.
the DD looks a lot better no over spray just bad paint quality on the knights armament if i am going to paying that much i want it to be perfect DD for me
The biggest complaint about KAC that I see people make is that “tHeIr pArTS aRe pRopRiEtARy”, this is most likely a coping mechanism for the price of the rifle. If the price of the rifle hurts you then there is no way you are gonna put 20,000 rounds through a rifle anyways! So what do you have to worry about! Even let’s say you put 20,000 rounds through it, you see some accuracy changes, you send it back to KAC and they will take care of you. And if you are worried about that not being an option for some reason….buy one to moth ball. KAC is king. period.
Maybe it just me with fine wine but the knight armor looks like any other AR in 1k range, dareI say ruger 556. Daniel defense for me all the way
This must be an Emperor's new clothes type of situation? There is NOTHING sexy about that SR15; even after your upgrades. And that Cerakote job is TRASH, inside and out. I can't think of a top tier AR that looks worse than the SR15; but when the Emperor drops that kind of coin to impress people, it's hard to convince him that he is butt naked. I would take Daniel Defense, an LMT, an LWRC, an H&K, a Radian Model 1 or a Barrett over the Knight's, any day.
I really bought it the second fed ex dropped it off st the gun shop and bought it without looking it over too much, cuz it's a Knights. I was underwhelmed when u started looking it over. It's still the sweetest shooting rifle in the safe, it's just not the prettiest. Lol
Daniel Defense makes a much sexier rifle. At $3k for the KAC you should get a nice grip, stock, charging handle, and cerakote.
So which one do you prefer or would recommend?
In this scenario, I'd take the Knights. Overall, thr LWRC IC A5 is my favorite AR tho. Hands down.
Bought Daniel defense complete upper from Primary Arms for 1000 bucks. Put an arrow precision lower and changed out the pistol grip to a B5 got about 1300 into the rifle.
But how do they shoot side by side? Recoil? Accuracy?
DD All day and twice on Sundays! The cerakote job on the Knights is absolute garbage. It looks to me as the Cerakote job was an afterthought compared to the Daniel Defense. Also I happen to like the furniture on the DD! Now a better comparison would be my new DD4 RIII compared to the Knights since they are both fully Ambi.
I just feel like if you don’t know what a KAC is you won’t really be flexing cus they tend to just look like a normal AR. Everyone recognizes the DD especially the poor lol but I have both and my favorite Daniel is the mk18 and their m4a1 RIS 2 rail cus that mf is indestructible. I have over 5,000 rounds suppressed and about 19000 rounds total. No parts replaced. Accuracy is still MOA no longer sub MOA like when I first bought it. But just gone the distance. And I’ve ran it with a full auto colt lower and it runs AMAZING. So does my KAC MOD 2 but idk. Something about the Daniel I just no matter what I run even steel case that fucker going to spit them out with no issues. My KAC can’t run steel case. (I only bought it because it was an accident I never run steel case) but the Daniel can run steel with no hiccups.
I would pick dd.never owned a knights but i have 2 dds.
I've never had a smoother shooting rifle than the Knights. I see why they charge what they do now.
I have the M4 V7. So-I do not want to be biased here. I am astonished by the utter, absolute quality of both rifles. Knights is well... Knights. I can't really think of much better. I think, personally you cannot go wrong with either of these. They are beautiful, extremely high quality and most importantly-reliable firearms.. I just like DD's customer service & lifetime guarantee. I could go on and on but, alas-my opinion is either one is going to simply fuck.
Well said sir. Well said
I'd rather say most can't justify two grand for a KAC or DD when an $800 M&P sport II does more than enough
Totally agree. I have a Ruger AR556 that does everything I need. But I really like that KAC too.
Says someone that can't afford one. Don't you think we all started with low end ar15s.
$2,000? Try $3,500+. You can't even buy a Radian Model 1 for under $3,000.
Aaaand here’s the inevitable “just as good” comment lol. Go shoot higher tier guns and the difference is pretty clear. I own both. I’m not about to sell any of my over-$2000 guns to buy two $1000 guns. And there’s a reason why.
@@slowmo7500 I agree that the higher tier AR15s look, feel, and are overall put together better and the differences are noticeable. However, 90% of shooters will be just fine with low tier models.
You could argue "would you want to depend your life on a budget Rifle?" but for some, that's their budget. Some people aren't heavy into firearms and simply want something that functions and works with no frills needed.
I believe the original comment was just stating the M&P Sport 2 does everything he needs and doesn't see the need the spend more on a KAC or DD. I don't think he was saying his M&P was "just as good" but merely saying it was good enough for him.
ANSI 4150 Chrome Molly Vanadium enhanced is the barrel material.
Good looking out man!
Geissele makes the best sub $1,000 complete upper imo if you're looking to flex on some poors on a budget.
$500 for a well equipped lower and pop on a higher tier upper and you're good.
Honestly, I've tried and own a lot of decent uppers/complete ARs like ADM, PWS, DD, Geissele, Radian, Cobalt, Type A, and Triarc and they're typically pretty good but expensive. ADM, Geissele and Type A are probably my favorites for the price... back when when you could get a Type A contractor for $1,800
I've never handled a Type A, but I hear good things.
Wait..KAC did that cerakote???😳HELLLL no🤦♂️
I know right?!? I got it from the gun shop I work at occasionally and the shipping address on the box was from Knights factory, it was brand new. Pretty unacceptable, and I still bought It cuz of how rare they are.
DD ALL day looks better hands down.I love my DDV11 THANKS For a great video.new sub.
I'm glad you're enjoying the content. Thanks for the sub!
💪DD m4a1 RIII
What iron sights are you running on the DD?
They're from defiance. They were literally the cheapest buis online. Like $25 when I bought them. They're decent.
DD just cuz it looks cooler imo
True statement.
< Flex on poors
> Doesn't have NODs
🤮
You win.... this time.
@@dadbodoperator2466 Im a PVS14 peasant. I can't talk smack 🤣
DD all the way no matter what u put it against I am going with my DD I have two the DDM4A1 14.5in and the DDM4V7 16in
They make good shit! I keep trying to find something I like better, and I've yet to do so.
@@dadbodoperator2466 I 100% understand
Meanwhile I'm an LMT owner and I'm confused how I got here
Ddm4v7
DDM4v7
The correct answer is a dd mk18 and a sr-15 CQBR
Can't disagree.
No contest, kac all day everyday, Daniel makes a nice gun and all but it’s a common brand for the most part especially the dd m4 (v) series they are big box store guns I wouldn’t even consider them a ultra premium gun.Not to mention their garbage boot licking stance on our rights. Knights is just better, just the history of the brand alone is legendary shit. They are the best of the best the only brand even remotely close is noveske. Also I’m almost positive knights is still duracoating the taupe guns and only the certain things are cerakoted,they are ment to be run and run hard if you need aesthicly perfect get a radian, knights are ment to be unstoppable.
Agreed. There's a definite difference in Knights coating, so I'm pretty sure it's duracoat. Luckily , the anesthetics are secondary, cuz that mofo shoots like a DREAM!
DD all the way!
Subbed because The Poors 😂
Lol, thanks man!
DD M4 V7 all day long, I have 2 of these and they are very sweet shooters! The cerakote job on the KAC looks like some kid rattle canned it, looks like. VERY BAD spray paint job. For the money they want it should be top tier and its not
Agreed. The KAC cerakote is disappointing. It makes up for a crappy cerakote with an amazing recoil impulse.
I’m poor I can only afford one Daniel Defense m4v7
You can’t complain about either one of them.
Right? No wrong answer.
ADM UIC 13.9” Core pin & weld for the win…
That'd work too.
whats up with the knights poor paint job???? Geissele all day bruv
Yup.
DD4 RIII
That's fair. Lol. I've gotta get an RIII. I just don't wanna pony up the cash for it yet.
People complaining about KAC like they give a crap. They only care about contracts.
#truth.
If you judge a battle rifle by its looks, furniture and overspray of its paint job or even have to consider between the two you’ll better off buying an airsoft rifle you’ll get the same response from your girlfriends when showing it off. Better yet stick with playing COD you’re an asset to community.
SR15/16 is a tool for professionals that gets the job done reliably with no room for failure, nothing else matters especially BS opinions
Wow... it's like you know my soul. We should be friends. If I spend 3k on a rifle, I have the right to expect the cerakote (or in this case duracoat) to not be total shit. It can be a top tier tool, and also exhibit quality craftsmanship simultaneously.
Like the info. The music totally sucks like an earworm. Over and over and over and over and over and over. - GET IT GOOD
I appreciate the input man! I'll turn the music down next time.
DD
DD!
Was that a round or snap cap? Lol
Tis only a snap cap. No worries. 👍
Flex on the poors...LOL. I guess i'm somewhere in the middle of the road .... Yeah, I have a few nicer rifle like the V7's, but do appreciate a nice shooting, well built rifle in a less expensive price range, Like a S&W, Ruger, Windham, RRA, Savage etc... I have to laugh a little knowing some of these youtube-social media dipshits will frown upon owning such lowly brands like I mentioned above, but many of them wouldn't know a good rifle if it jumped up and smacked them in the sack. Great video, keep em coming.
Love it man. I'm a bit of a gun snob, no doubt, but my favorite rig is my Ruger AR556. I'm glad to know that the fact I was kidding came through in the video.
They look the same. But I think that's because I'ma poor heh
Been there man. They start to look a lil different once you get a few years and a lil scratch in ur pocket.
The DD is copium for people who can’t get a KAC😂
Lol the poors
Did he just say the P word 🤢
The KA looks cheap.
Both are overpriced !😅 Free Daniel defense .
All these GUCCI guns and stupidly unnecessary upgrades are going to give you ZERO edge over someone with a $1000 rig and proper training. Would it matter to ANYONE that whilst in the Army in 1987-1995 I was making headshots in the 3D "Ivan" pop up targets at 300 yards with nothing more than a ragged out Vietnam era M-16, iron sights and cheap GI ball ammo? Can you bring yourselves for one moment to see the ridiculousness in these expenditures when you should be stockpiling ammo??? The average, AVERAGE being the operative word in this conversation, AR owner and enthusiast should be spending no more than $1300 for an entire battle ready rig. Every day I am growing increasingly more convinced that these guntubers pushing the Gucci shit are getting kickbacks from these after market parts manufacturers.
Bro, I have 8000 subscribers..... I'm not getting shit kicked back to me. I just like high end guns. I stockpile ammo as well. The judgement without knowing me feels a tad unnecessary friend. 😕
My ATI Omni will destroy both
You win. All must bow before the ATI Omni.
@@dadbodoperator2466 lol
DDM4