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  • Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
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    0:00 the game's pedigree
    2:55 similarities to other games
    6:33 the issues...
    9:06 concerning publisher statement
    13:01 my thoughts
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Комментарии • 772

  • @luisherrera7039
    @luisherrera7039 Месяц назад +850

    Anime fans: yo this game looks like ass it's gonna be bad
    Fgc fans: YO THIS GAME LOOKS LIKE ASS ITS GONNA BE PEAK 8ING

    • @666slateran666
      @666slateran666 Месяц назад +49

      Yeah no, most people with any sense or eyes thinks it looks like booty cheeks. As a fgc head who also enjoys anime this looks like a A budget game lmao

    • @hihigocat
      @hihigocat Месяц назад +145

      @@666slateran666because it is a budget game, but thats not inherently a bad thing

    • @joncliffmckinley5868
      @joncliffmckinley5868 Месяц назад +70

      budget games are great too
      gameplay >>>

    • @KidArkx
      @KidArkx Месяц назад +9

      You'll said the same about dnf yet none of you play it. I was waiting for dnf to be a fighting game since I first played it

    • @youcantbeatD
      @youcantbeatD Месяц назад +11

      I'm happy I'm not the only one who feels that way, like the low graphical fidelity of this game is only adding to my excitement for it because it's just reminding me of games I've already sunk hours into and love

  • @shandy6198
    @shandy6198 Месяц назад +675

    The artstyle doesn't bother me too much but the animations do. It feels like none of the characters have distinct personalities.

    • @erhanjpg1467
      @erhanjpg1467 Месяц назад +61

      yeah also the key posing isnt as clear as it should be, and the effects animations isnt that good. they some times cover the characters altogether, and sometimes are not easy to see. Fighting Game animation should put Clarity/Fuctionalty first, Personality Second, and any other flairs third.

    • @squazer
      @squazer Месяц назад +61

      Yeah, everyone talking about graphics when the main issue I think is how stiff and slow the animations are and how the lack personnality. This looks like a badly made mod of Tatsunoko vs Capcom. After seeing what Arcsys managed to do with DBFZ, one cannot hope to just release a HxH game as a Tatsunoko/Marvel vs Capcom game, with reskinned characters.

    • @petalsxox
      @petalsxox Месяц назад

      ya

    • @shodragon94
      @shodragon94 Месяц назад +1

      That’s how I felt too! Even the Nen button

    • @DaGreatCedji
      @DaGreatCedji Месяц назад +9

      Yeah that's what meant when i talked how the graphics were bad. The animations just look super stiff. Marvel infinite looks better than this as of now.

  • @shishioh
    @shishioh Месяц назад +531

    This shit coming straight to Gamecube

    • @FemDaHoots
      @FemDaHoots Месяц назад +4

      Gameboy Color*

    • @markmessi9020
      @markmessi9020 Месяц назад +8

      ​@@FemDaHoots The Gameboy color version only is 2V2 on Ranked online unfortunately 😢

    • @Ibuybabyaliens
      @Ibuybabyaliens Месяц назад +19

      Game cube is a classic so that’s not even an insult.

    • @HakaishinCat
      @HakaishinCat Месяц назад +2

      somebody missed the point

    • @shishioh
      @shishioh Месяц назад +6

      @@HakaishinCat Yeah. You 🤣

  • @garytuttle8753
    @garytuttle8753 Месяц назад +76

    its not an arena fighter, its already ahead in my book

  • @TGHunter
    @TGHunter Месяц назад +31

    I feel like ppl don't know what "Switch Games" actually are, Switch has Bayonetta 2, Nier, Mario Odyssey, Astral Chain, Smash Ultimate, Zelda and multiple games with really beautiful graphics...
    This is looking like a wii game tbh...

    • @derbear3403
      @derbear3403 Месяц назад +2

      Yeah don't know how one cam say "it looks like a switch game" when smash ultimate is right there. A fighting game that's able to handle 8 players at a time on very detailed, sometimes huge stages in addition to any additional resources going to items, bosses, pokemon, and assist trophies. And that character count jumps to 16 if all 8 pick ice climbers.

    • @GS_CCC
      @GS_CCC Месяц назад +7

      Nah, DS game upscaled

    • @TGHunter
      @TGHunter Месяц назад

      @@GS_CCC fr fr

    • @BiriBiri925
      @BiriBiri925 Месяц назад

      The most beautiful game on switch is MK1.

  • @bitterbatterdog
    @bitterbatterdog Месяц назад +18

    Generally my only complaint is they look like they are fighting on a greenscreen. The lack of music is a bit off puttin but that is clearly because it's not finished

  • @AstralTaurus
    @AstralTaurus Месяц назад +166

    As a long time hxh fan I'm just happy we are getting a game at all. Hopefully it doesn't go on hiatus...😅

    • @midgetmasher166
      @midgetmasher166 Месяц назад +14

      togashi's nen ability strikes again???

    • @MK-vi2cm
      @MK-vi2cm Месяц назад +7

      Real

    • @YukonJon
      @YukonJon Месяц назад +10

      And as a JJK fan I'm just happy it's not another shitty arena fighter LOL

  • @derekthomas2959
    @derekthomas2959 Месяц назад +89

    Me: Um...MVC3 and Tatsunoko, old school bro?
    Jmcrofts: --Lets be honest, that was like fifteen years ago.
    Me: ...

    • @JohnThems
      @JohnThems Месяц назад +16

      Huh? Retro fighting games are like Street Fighter 2 and Fighter's History, right?
      MvC3 and Tatsunoko are still pretty new...

    • @Mr_Mistah
      @Mr_Mistah Месяц назад +5

      ​@@JohnThems I understood that reference

    • @queenbeeremedy6993
      @queenbeeremedy6993 Месяц назад +7

      ​@@JohnThems we really are in the sanae timeline

  • @LordBorbos
    @LordBorbos Месяц назад +25

    Honestly you look way better bald. You’re one of those guys

  • @midgetmasher166
    @midgetmasher166 Месяц назад +384

    its not an arena fighter
    all i hoped for has been answered

    • @666slateran666
      @666slateran666 Месяц назад +17

      Instead it's a kusoge

    • @BezimiennyMarcel
      @BezimiennyMarcel Месяц назад +47

      Kusoge are 100 times more fun than arena fighters

    • @midgetmasher166
      @midgetmasher166 Месяц назад +10

      @@BezimiennyMarcel many kusoge are anime fighters

    • @uandresbrito5685
      @uandresbrito5685 Месяц назад +4

      ​@@BezimiennyMarcelThis game is literally an anime fighter lol

    • @thanatosp3738
      @thanatosp3738 Месяц назад +1

      @@uandresbrito5685 I think he meant to say arena fighter

  • @NotSnapdragon
    @NotSnapdragon Месяц назад +52

    Honestly not every fighting game release needs to be on the headlines of every major tournament or esports focused.
    I am happy with playing more niche games as long as I have someone to play with and interesting mechanics to keep me invested long term.

    • @Zartekbr
      @Zartekbr Месяц назад +2

      That's cool but it means you have $60 to spare and a friend with another $60 to spare and willing to play this with you. Other people might rely on online matchmaking and care more about how they spend their $60, which are the problems they are worried about.

    • @snuffysam
      @snuffysam Месяц назад +1

      ⁠@@ZartekbrGet it on Switch, take it to tournaments & play with folks in the hallway while you wait for your matches? At least that way you can get some value out of it even if there’s nobody playing online & even if your online friends don’t have the game lol. Even then $60 seems a bit steep, we’ll see how much gets revealed closer to release I guess (if there’s a good single player mode it could make up for the smaller multiplayer pool but I don’t see the game going through the whole story of HxH with only 16 characters lol)

    • @Zartekbr
      @Zartekbr Месяц назад +3

      ​@@snuffysam Must be nice living somewhere where you can do that.

    • @johnnycage6676
      @johnnycage6676 Месяц назад +1

      @@snuffysambro the game already looks ugly why would anyone subject their selves to the switch version😂

    • @AdamJorgensen
      @AdamJorgensen Месяц назад +5

      Eeeeh....would kinda suck if it went the same way as DNF Duel tho...

  • @DanTheMeek
    @DanTheMeek Месяц назад +239

    Can't wait to play this on my PSP, I hope it gets a DS port too. Could also be sick on a dream cast with its built in dial up modem for multi-player, just gotta find some one who still offers dial up internet.

    • @cypresshill9268
      @cypresshill9268 Месяц назад +9

      I know you're joking but if you want to play Dreamcast online with it's modem, you just need a line voltage inducer. a lot of game servers have been reverse engineered and are playable now
      If you're interested, look up "Dreampi"

    • @ilyrich
      @ilyrich Месяц назад +4

      LMFAOOOO

    • @ext609
      @ext609 Месяц назад +2

      ICANT

    • @Somebodys-unc
      @Somebodys-unc Месяц назад +1

      😂

    • @dingusdangus9299
      @dingusdangus9299 Месяц назад +5

      Nah dude the dreamcast had broadband you could play quake 3 on that.

  • @petalsxox
    @petalsxox Месяц назад +35

    what sucks is if this does bad devs probably won’t give another shot like this for hxh or another anime depending on how bad it does. i think the budget is holding it back immensely /:

    • @kode-man23
      @kode-man23 Месяц назад +9

      Yeah I can already see the “PC issues at launch, no crossplay” from here. Couple that with the fact that 16 characters is prohibitively small for a shonen battle-series, regardless of the budget or genre… yeah this isn’t looking good. Also, if there is no roadmap for support right at launch, I could see people just not even bothering.
      I hope that I’m wrong, but seeing how much potential character-personality that they seemingly missed out on, it’s a little bit disappointing.

    • @Khann_2102
      @Khann_2102 Месяц назад +4

      ​@@kode-man23 A 3v3 fighting game with only 16 characters is small roster

  • @kiraaaaqueen
    @kiraaaaqueen Месяц назад +99

    I honestly want this game to succeed enough to send a message that anime fighting games can work, tired of having 3D arena anime fightsrs. I know graphically it looks bad, but the gameplay looks so damn fun, I've been wanting a fighting game for HxH for so long and I hope that more anime games turn into 2D fighters instead of 3D arena fighters

    • @ThallesNinja
      @ThallesNinja Месяц назад +10

      FighterZ: I don't exist

    • @GinkgoPete
      @GinkgoPete Месяц назад +21

      ​@@ThallesNinjaDbfz was never gonna be the norm and DB is in another dimension to HxH. If small games move away from the awful arena fighter shovel ware that would be great

    • @emperormegaman3856
      @emperormegaman3856 Месяц назад +17

      Keep in mind, the reason why Arena Fighters have such a bad reputation in the first place is precisely that most of them aren't done with enough budget or care put into faithfully adaptating the source.
      It's not a coincidence that the only arena fighters that avoid that (putting one's personal tastes in gaming aside), the Naruto and DB series are the one that put a lot of attention into the source materials and are given a good budget.
      If they start making 2d fighters, but still have the same issue, sure it might catter a bit more to someone who like 2d fighters, but aside from that they'd still be mediocre manga/anime games. The problem wouldn't be solved. And DBFZ would remain the only one "that did it right" the same way Budokai remain the only one that did Arena Fighter right (again, personal tastes aside, not everyone like every type of game, but personal taste and game quality are a different issue.)

    • @ThallesNinja
      @ThallesNinja Месяц назад +6

      @@GinkgoPete Arena fighters are the perfect platform for anime games. They're simple, flashy and casual fun, made to appeal to the fans of the anime, not a specific subset of fans residing within an already specific community.
      FighterZ only exists because Dragon Ball is massive, to the point where catering to a small portion of its fanbase is still economically viable. But there's a reason why Budokai Tenkaichi 2-3 are the games everyone fondly remembers.
      Expecting a high quality 2D fighter from generic shonen anime is basically asking a company to sink themselves. There will be no profit.

    • @thaearthquake
      @thaearthquake Месяц назад +3

      @@emperormegaman3856that’s exactly what I’ve been saying. All these people parroting “at least it’s not an arena fighter” as if that’ll automatically make it a good game. Ignoring the fact the biggest anime games were arena fighters. Seems like cope to me.

  • @FoolsGil
    @FoolsGil Месяц назад +176

    Wasnt interested in this game until TvC was mentioned

    • @jasonsmith530
      @jasonsmith530 Месяц назад +5

      Tatsunoko was great

    • @666slateran666
      @666slateran666 Месяц назад +4

      Still looks like garbage and 8ting games are kusoges. Rather have a new bloody roar

    • @shwaynecurlson5287
      @shwaynecurlson5287 Месяц назад +25

      ​@@666slateran666 bruh 8ing games are goated stop being edgy

    • @voiceunderthecovers
      @voiceunderthecovers Месяц назад +7

      @@666slateran666Looks are all that matter to you?

    • @FoolsGil
      @FoolsGil Месяц назад +4

      @@666slateran666 I want a new Bloody Roar too but 8ing don't own it. Konami's the one sitting on it, letting no games come out.

  • @user-et1cg7dv8r
    @user-et1cg7dv8r Месяц назад +16

    I honestly wish kite is in the game as like a random stance character (he has in the manga 9 possible weapons and we have seen only 3. It works like a roulette, he activates his ability and it gives him a random weapon)

    • @StarDragonJP
      @StarDragonJP Месяц назад

      I'm sure he'll be in the game, but what he'll play like is yet to be seen.

    • @gabrielcastejon7914
      @gabrielcastejon7914 Месяц назад +1

      And which stance he gets is random, offset by how strong they'd be

  • @jordanomaly
    @jordanomaly Месяц назад +21

    If this launches for over 40 bucks, it's gonna be dead on arrival unfortunately. Even that may be too much for people with how the game looks. I wasn't expecting it to look amazing, but damn I'd have spent so much money on a game even half as good looking as FighterZ. I looooooooooove Hunter x Hunter, so it's a bummer this is the best we're gonna get. It 100% could have been big with a proper budget.

    • @Wolfedge75
      @Wolfedge75 Месяц назад +5

      You’re spoiled by Arcsys.
      Though tbh, we kinda all are.

    • @DANCERcow
      @DANCERcow Месяц назад +1

      Street fighter alpha 2 launched at $70 on SNES lol

    • @lasterman94100
      @lasterman94100 Месяц назад +11

      @@DANCERcowand it was a beautiful game at the time, this is showing PS2 graphics, most player will happily spend 30$ more for another game if this is what you get for 40 bucks

    • @StarDragonJP
      @StarDragonJP Месяц назад +3

      ​@@Wolfedge75I certainly haven't. I don't think releasing a AAA fully priced fighting game with a 16 character roster is acceptable.

  • @David-yk9fy
    @David-yk9fy Месяц назад +149

    . . . I'm going to get a lot of backlash from H×H fans, but i literally thought i saw Phoenix Wright

    • @steeplewiththesnakes
      @steeplewiththesnakes Месяц назад +40

      Actually no HxH fan will be upset by this characterization

    • @user-mn2uh8oe4v
      @user-mn2uh8oe4v Месяц назад +10

      Phoenix but with Satoru sunglasses

    • @jordanomaly
      @jordanomaly Месяц назад +36

      Na, that's basically Leorio anyways 😂

    • @Formedras
      @Formedras Месяц назад +2

      Close enough. But he's Royal Pains, not Suits.

    • @ShiRuBa3368
      @ShiRuBa3368 Месяц назад +5

      nah literally, I saw the auto play before clicking and was like "oh shit, new marvel?"

  • @KenBladehart
    @KenBladehart Месяц назад +16

    I found out years ago that visual presentation is very important for fighting games
    Fighting games with good art direction, visual style, camera works, etc have better player retention since those kind of stuff improve playing and watching experience

    • @AstonWildsteel
      @AstonWildsteel Месяц назад +8

      That's mostly because visual excitement (and visual clarity) helps a lot in understanding what's going on even if you're part of a casual audience. I still remember when I brought UMvC3 to a birthday party filled with non-gamers or casual gamers and everyone having had fun watching hype moments happening while the players effectively pushed buttons. That got carried because MvC3 still has a strong art direction which feels missing from Nen Impact, sadly.

  • @strategist9
    @strategist9 Месяц назад +12

    A lot of the characters in HxH would be pretty wild if adapted accurately to the source. Even just with Kurapika in the main roster here, he has moves that he's usually only allowed to use against very specific characters or else he'd die outright. From footage we've seen it looks like at least one super just kinda...stops partway and doesn't seem as flashy as the others, so I'm betting on them just making his moves do more damage to those specific characters. But obviously that would kind of ruin balance in a way that isn't fun (like how every One Piece game doesn't let Sanji hit women) so I don't know how far they'll go.
    I really want to see Knuckle in here. He looks like a Japanese delinquent whose power is based around...bankruptcy. Basically, he attacks you and loans you energy and if you can't pay back that debt he takes no damage from the attack and eventually your own powers get sealed if you let the "interest" accrue too high. I'd love to see how they'd handle that in a game like this. I'm sure this game's not able to go as crazy as they'd like with that comically low budget, so I'll just be grateful with what we get....provided it isn't full price.

  • @321Tdog
    @321Tdog Месяц назад +6

    I can't believe dev companies haven't realised that Fighting games are one of the few genres where graphics have to be on par, if not better than the gameplay, otherwise it will be a commercial disaster!

  • @sontheboss
    @sontheboss Месяц назад +31

    I think the gameplay looks good. Its the presentations and polish that need work

  • @kyleflournoy7730
    @kyleflournoy7730 Месяц назад +14

    If this game drops at a full 60/70 Dollars while 2xko potentially comes out at the same time being free to play, that would be insane.
    But if this game drops for like 20-25 bucks with a little 5-10 dollar season pass of characters once a year for 2 or 3 years, I could see it being really successful

  • @rafdes
    @rafdes Месяц назад +9

    It's not even about the graphics fidelity, it's art direction.
    A cheap creative project can look good with a small budget because the art director had a clear, inspired vision for it. This does not look like someone passionate about the license was in charge of the visuals.

  • @Inimaris
    @Inimaris Месяц назад +15

    5:27 Of both rubber AND gum?

    • @Tom-ci6bu
      @Tom-ci6bu Месяц назад +2

      Yeah fr, i noticed the bungee gum mechanics look mad cool. I just wish they improved animation cause the anime/manga is always super over the top and expressive.

    • @desircreantor1290
      @desircreantor1290 Месяц назад +2

      😂😂😂I'm not the only one

  • @KarazolaX
    @KarazolaX Месяц назад +3

    It isn't just the graphics, its the menus and 2D art. It looks like The World Ends With You, and that's not in a complimentary way, it's in a 'super thick outlines that make the game look like it's early gamecube' kinda way.

  • @BridgetGX
    @BridgetGX Месяц назад +11

    Can we get this but for Togashi's other anime? We haven't gotten a proper YYH game since the PS2 days

    • @StarDragonJP
      @StarDragonJP Месяц назад +2

      Or at least maybe Yusuke as DLC

    • @BridgetGX
      @BridgetGX Месяц назад +2

      @@StarDragonJP that would be a good start but I want to play as all the characters from the Spirit Detective arc to the Three Kings arc. Ankoku Bojutsukai 120% came close by making Sensui and even Rando and Gouki playable in a game that was centered around the Dark Tournament but I want an all out dream match that spans the entire series. I never got to see what all Zeru could do because Hiei one shot him. Some of Suzuka's many moves were displayed in the cinematic games for the Super Famicom but I'd love further expansion on what a character who has learned many techniques can do. Yu Yu Hakusho FINAL for the Super Famicom was EXCELLENT but only really covered the Sensui arc and Three Kings.
      Hell, I'd even take another cinematic-style game like Tokubetsu Hen on the Super Famicom. Somebody do that but with today's technology and more characters and BOOM. Instant classic.

  • @Laezar1
    @Laezar1 Месяц назад +24

    What I really don't like about what I'm seeing is that the characters don't feel like they have a personality, their kit kinda reflects what's in HxH but not *really* like, it feels they're fighting games character that have a HxH coat of paint added on top of them rather than deep thoughts being put on how to make these HxH character into fighting game characters if that make sense?
    Like, netero... doesn't fight like netero at all? You'd expect him to summon all those hands and be a hellish zoner to deal with that just stand there and is unreachable, but instead he just kinda jumps around and kicks you. Kilua has lightning and yoyo but instead of making it so his ultimate technique actually affects stuff related to his speed and reactions like in the show it's just an attack. It could have been a cool install but nah...
    Hisoka is just kinda flailing around instead of laying down traps that limit the opponent movement and doing some weird stuff.
    Hell you could have some more focus on how nen works, like having your health be very low but having a shield bar that's your aura that your opponent has to deplete to hurt you, but you can use diverse universal options that affect how it works. Like, one of the big things in HxH is that if you concentrate your aura you can hurt your opponent directly unless they focus their aura on defense, but if you get hit in that state you're pretty much dead. That could be a really cool fighting game dynamic. That might be a bit extreme and experimental but that's just an idea. At least have *something* that makes you say "ha yes it's an HxH game and it couldn't be anything else", kinda how dragonball fighterZ has stuff like the super dash, the ki blasts and the teleport thingy that all feel very dragonball, even if you changed the characters if you kept the same systems you'd be like "this game feels like dragonball". Here it's really not the case.
    So yeah, not super exciting

    • @desircreantor1290
      @desircreantor1290 Месяц назад +5

      I think they don't get the money to test new interesting and innovative mechanics. It's easier and cheaper to do what the studio already do well and I think that's why they've been hired.
      But yeah I totally agree, it feel like Marvel vs Capcom with a HxH skin. Just hoping it wouldn't be too expensive.
      I was making a HxH fighting game (it's now on pause but) and need some feedbacks. If you wanna try tell me

    • @SheionVIDS
      @SheionVIDS Месяц назад +1

      I half agree. I also wish the meter was more like nen and also instead of overgear we could get a different more nen based mechanic. What I will say is that even there normals are all anime reference and killua does have an install to at not only effects his speed but even changes his dash to having a hitbox

    • @Laezar1
      @Laezar1 Месяц назад +1

      @@SheionVIDS Oh good for the install!
      The footage I've seen all look very samey, I think in particular seeing how netero fights was the most disappointing to me.

    • @SheionVIDS
      @SheionVIDS Месяц назад +1

      @@Laezar1 yeah I agree with that but there is a chance that if the game succeeds he can get a better kit as the game goes on

  • @waverazor
    @waverazor Месяц назад +12

    it mostlikely not having crossplay will be the death of it

    • @Khann_2102
      @Khann_2102 Месяц назад

      Give it a month or two, it'll be dead

  • @ZzigZaG00NIN
    @ZzigZaG00NIN Месяц назад +4

    It's so cool you've been with TvC for do long
    You're the first I've seen to really go into more detail of how the two games are alike

  • @christianwise4227
    @christianwise4227 Месяц назад +10

    Damn they got pheonix wright

  • @AdreanStyles09
    @AdreanStyles09 Месяц назад +8

    Game looks fun but they need to upgrade visuals, fluidity of animations and the shots of the supers

  • @steamyrobotlove
    @steamyrobotlove Месяц назад +6

    I was really surprised this is shaping up to be a 2D tag fighter and not an arena-based game. Looks interesting.

  • @NyxShakka
    @NyxShakka Месяц назад +19

    2:20 that stagger animation is so UMVC3

  • @Caltelt
    @Caltelt Месяц назад +5

    Definitely worth checking out the anime if you're interested, it's a classic. Same guy who did yuyu hakusho, if you remember that from the toonami days.

  • @darkun01
    @darkun01 Месяц назад +3

    I'm in the camp that this is an extremely rare occurrence in the way that you talked about so I'm more worried lol. This game definitely looks like it's early on in development, so I would hope that it's at least a year out.
    In terms of whether or not I think it shows off the characters from the series well, I will say I'm not a huge fan of how things seem to be turning out. The characters don't really seem expressive in their own ways for one: some others have already said it in the comments, but the animations in particular are lacking. Another HUGE gripe I have with the very few times HxH has been adapted into a fighting game is that they treat something that happens to Gon (the kid that's moving like Bardock) as a Super when it's an extremely traumatizing event in the series; I get that it's iconic, but it feels like it's in bad taste when it's treated as an epic power up.
    Besides that, definitely check the series out! It's one of my all time favorites. So much of its appeal is more of an emotional core than just WOW COOL FIGHTS.

  • @ShintoCanti
    @ShintoCanti Месяц назад

    I just saw J wong’s extended gameplay and I have to say that they polishing it little by little

  • @UltracoreUltraUranium
    @UltracoreUltraUranium Месяц назад +4

    That Killua lightning smite goes hard

  • @MisterTwit
    @MisterTwit Месяц назад +2

    FINALLY SOMEONE NOTICES ABOUT THE ANIMATION IN 8ING GAMES. You're not hallucinating, 8ing has been using a lot of these animations since the Bloody Roar series. I'm not kidding, they are that old. They just kept using them in games like Gamecube Naruto games, and Tatsunoko, and Marvel 3. I'm glad that people are finally starting to call them out for it because it's been kind of ridiculous seeing them get away with it for so long.
    Of course then you've got Arika doing pretty much the same thing, reusing old SFEX animations in FEXL. Both these companies are indie developers in everything but status now.

  • @insertchannelnamehere7154
    @insertchannelnamehere7154 Месяц назад

    I wasn’t expecting Fighters level graphics, but I was at least hoping for a little more. Can’t wait to try it though.

  • @petalsxox
    @petalsxox Месяц назад +2

    love hxh was hyped for the game and i’m bummed. haven’t played mvc but only thing that peaked my interest was killuas godspeed install looking decent. hope it looks a bit better on release and hope its around the prices u mentioned.

    • @Draggzilla
      @Draggzilla Месяц назад

      Wow you're corny, this game looks like its the truth.

    • @MrMooMoo088
      @MrMooMoo088 Месяц назад

      ​@Draggzilla it's a gamecube game and looks like it plays on nunchucks. 8ing is washed

  • @CrimsonMoonM
    @CrimsonMoonM Месяц назад +2

    FghterZ works fine on Switch and toaster PCs, so this definitely feels like a budget thing, not a deliberate choice.

  • @Vanquisher8881
    @Vanquisher8881 Месяц назад

    I have to commend you for the video about this game. You clearly put effort and thought in your video, and I learned a lot from it. It's certainly greatly better than the 10+ 'reaction' type videos that felt like useless and a waste of time. So thank you, and I hope you keep up the good work!

  • @Inimaris
    @Inimaris Месяц назад +1

    The only thing I'm concerned about is a small roster and most importantly - will it have regional pricing on Steam?

  • @LuigiLonLon
    @LuigiLonLon Месяц назад +2

    Thing is the fixed camera makes it look really odd, static and widespread

  • @DevilishlyDutch
    @DevilishlyDutch Месяц назад +2

    I agree that full price would be a hard sell, it looks like something I might be interested in, but I'm not sure I'd want to pay more than 40 bucks for it at the absolute max. Depends on whether there's a story mode I suppose, I could be sold on a story mode for HxH for sure!

  • @KrisKrisKrisKrisKris
    @KrisKrisKrisKrisKris Месяц назад

    5:42 I've never heard this term before, one button game. Is it similar to 2XKO's deal? I've heard Core-A gaming talk about Rising thunder and Fantasy Strike's mechanics. I find the whole topic really interesting and would love an in depth look at games of that type if this is what the term refers to

    • @_Jay_Maker_
      @_Jay_Maker_ Месяц назад

      Look at the CC2 Naruto fighting games - the early, 2D ones. That's a 1 button fighting game series.

  • @Arassar
    @Arassar Месяц назад +47

    God, TvC just looks like such a better game, despite being a Wii title from 15 years ago

  • @By_the_gods
    @By_the_gods Месяц назад

    The blast from the past was worth clicking on this video. Good video as always, JM

  • @mySDK3333
    @mySDK3333 Месяц назад

    Very interesting share, I think the budget part is impossible for a fighting game.
    Bushiroad is the publisher, which means they manage things mostly on distributing, localizing, and marketing.
    The budget strategy could be only true to the games they develop by their own I think.

  • @harryf9885
    @harryf9885 Месяц назад +1

    $650,000 is insane, like even if you pay all your developers 50k salaries, and 50k on the license, advertising, office space, servers and game engine combined. On a fast 2 year development cycle that leaves you with 6 developers!
    And that is with very conservative estimates on how much you are paying people, and the other costs of the game (the license alone could be 50k-100k lol) as well as the fastest development cycle I think they could be using (lf they were on a shorter than 2 year cycle then with the game at this state they would have announced a release date I feel, plus a short cycle doesn’t make sense for a new franchise, longer cycles with less people are generally cheaper).

  • @VixYW
    @VixYW Месяц назад +1

    As someone that does not play online at all, the only thing that concerns me is the roster size and the offline content.

  • @MommysGoodPuppy
    @MommysGoodPuppy Месяц назад +3

    i feel like the gameplay is gonna be really fun

  • @muffinmonkeys
    @muffinmonkeys Месяц назад +3

    I think you raise a good point about the price point. Dropping this for $60-$70 dollars and whatever “season-pass” type thing that might come along with it for future DLC is tone-deaf. Making a small game for a smaller price would make HxH much more enticing.

  • @HeSoKlutch_84
    @HeSoKlutch_84 Месяц назад

    I like it. As a HUGE MvC and TvC fan, I have high hopes for what this can turn into.

  • @ConfusedWeeb
    @ConfusedWeeb Месяц назад

    Looking at the size difference between characters, there are gonna be a lot of character specific combos.

  • @garekcooke407
    @garekcooke407 Месяц назад +1

    I love the IP and it’s giving me some serious MvC3 Nostalgia. If they sell it for 40-50$ on release I might be playing day 1

  • @taylorwinslette8061
    @taylorwinslette8061 Месяц назад

    I’m still really excited for it. The art style doesn’t really bother me that much, but I do hope the animations get smoothed out some. The roster is definitely not big enough though if that’s the final number. I’m just hoping it’s still early and they can at least remedy some of that. I’m still going to wait and see what it looks like later this year before I really create an opinion.

  • @lasagnahog7695
    @lasagnahog7695 Месяц назад

    I love conversations about balance not being the end all be all of fun. It's true even in PvP games.

  • @tyler6745
    @tyler6745 Месяц назад +82

    I don't know what people expected from the visuals. We knew this was gonna be a budget title from the get go.

    • @prosper624
      @prosper624 Месяц назад +34

      Bruh I didnt 😂

    • @microblast3700
      @microblast3700 Месяц назад +10

      The roster it's the problem

    • @666slateran666
      @666slateran666 Месяц назад

      Effort and a bigger budget

    • @shadowofdimentio4618
      @shadowofdimentio4618 Месяц назад +19

      The trailer models looked ass and now the in game models look ass. I'm not surprised.
      16 Characters on a 3v3 game tho? Oof. Hope they plan on supporting them game but otherwise looks fun

    • @Wolfedge75
      @Wolfedge75 Месяц назад +3

      @@shadowofdimentio4618 It’s definitely a small roster… for a 3v3 game.
      If it’s 2v2 then it’s just fine

  • @dectilon
    @dectilon Месяц назад

    I hope they get a chance to spruce it up. Obviously we know they can do good work so it'd be a shame if they have to compromise presentation to this degree. And by "get a chance" I mean "get more budget".
    Also yes, you should definitely watch the show. You wouldn't think it just looking at the character designs, but the show gets into some heavy stuff.

  • @PipsPerruno
    @PipsPerruno Месяц назад +2

    as a HxH and kusoge fan what a time to be alive

  • @majinkevinci
    @majinkevinci Месяц назад

    Honestly all they need to is make the Visual effects a bit prettier and consider the giving a subtle ink outlining effect (actual subtle, not something heavy like TvC or MvC) and that would make it look x10 better.

  • @unconsistentone5385
    @unconsistentone5385 Месяц назад

    One of the immediate issue of this game's visual and would be easy to fix is the lack of dynamic camera movement, the game looks a bit too zoomed out and there aren't any dynamic camera angle movements aside from the super flash. Gameplay looks amazing and I guerentee the FGC will love it but without the dynamic visual flare this might turn off a lot of casuals. An easy experiment you can do is to boot up any modern fighting game and just look at the camera work, a good example is Tekken 8, DBFZ and GGS, the camera changes to this dynamic look very often which fires dopamine in the brain a lot

  • @tavianfloyd6589
    @tavianfloyd6589 Месяц назад +2

    I don't event think looking bad is that big of a deal. My problem is looking bad and having a small roster. This is a 3v3 fighter by a AA studio. If its going to look like scrap launch with more characters.

  • @kindasomeviews
    @kindasomeviews Месяц назад +1

    Fans: Plz don't be an arena fighter. PLEASE
    8ing: Don't worry it won't.
    Fans: FINALLY! Cant wait! *sees the gameplay after a few months* This looks rough even for a beta. wtf
    8ing: This isn't the beta. Already past that

  • @user-ci2yr4wd7o
    @user-ci2yr4wd7o Месяц назад

    As a hxh fan and umvc3 spectator. I say the character portraits well but it should be crazier. After all its a low budget and no motion input game i'll gladly take what we have now.

  • @knucklesmediafiends6057
    @knucklesmediafiends6057 Месяц назад +60

    But as fighting games fans we like gameplay before presentation

    • @trippersigs2248
      @trippersigs2248 Месяц назад +15

      Speak for yourself. I like both.

    • @RAdubya494
      @RAdubya494 Месяц назад +7

      Nah gameplay all day

    • @jwash87
      @jwash87 Месяц назад +11

      Fighting games need both imo

    • @Kool212
      @Kool212 Месяц назад +13

      FG fans don’t care about graphics, but style is a huge part of a game making it.

    • @gustavosanabio473
      @gustavosanabio473 Месяц назад +13

      I won't argue that gameplay is the heart a fighting game, it absolutely is... But if you think about the games that are considered all times greats, I think you'll be hard pressed to think of one that was considered ugly/had bad presentation for the time it came out. Not all games age in the same way, granted. SFIV, for one, has aged a lot worse then say, Third Strike or CVS2. But none of these games were ugly when they came out.
      That might be indicative of how presentation IS also important.

  • @mepose420
    @mepose420 Месяц назад

    I like to see that jmcrofts represent Indiana by wearing a Purdue shirt in that TvC flashback👌🏿😆

  • @DIOBrando-ij2bp
    @DIOBrando-ij2bp Месяц назад +3

    I won’t be too worried about the visuals. I’d expect the final version of the character models to look like they do in the character select screen. On the character select screen everyone has this water color look to them, and brush stroke black outlines. I think how the characters portraits look is what the character will end up looking like in-game.
    That brush stroke motif is in some of the font for stuff like “Ready” “GO!” font at the start of a match, and the “VS” font before the round starts.

  • @GabrielMarques1
    @GabrielMarques1 Месяц назад +1

    Man... I just need some more explosive effects and animations and it would be good enough for me. The special attacks look bland. I want to see Gon punch a guy and be reminded of his punch on Neferpitou.

  • @MrPaul-kj5bm
    @MrPaul-kj5bm Месяц назад

    The character models are pretty accurate, but they do look almost dead. A few areas where the characters mouths should be moving but they're not. Id say the attacks looks kinda sluggish or they just lack impact. I really want the game to be good and im hopeful for it. I love this IP and i know they still have some developement time left. Love to see some improvements from where theyre at not but it does look promising

  • @JuJusCornerr
    @JuJusCornerr Месяц назад

    gameplay wise, it looks fun as hell. graphics may improve after the feedback but my main question since the title was introduced was why hunter hunter. don't get me wrong, I like the series but I would've thought one piece or even bleach would have gotten a fighting game before hunter hunter.

  • @noodles9345
    @noodles9345 Месяц назад

    I just started watching this anime a few weeks ago. Im actually mildly interested in this lol. If its like $40 or less.

  • @moncala7787
    @moncala7787 Месяц назад

    Dragonball FighterZ was a great looking tag fighter. The visuals being so nice definitely drew a lot of casual Dragon Ball fans in and got them excited for a more traditional fighting game

  • @nethstar
    @nethstar Месяц назад

    I mean some trepidation on this could also be 8ing just came off of DNF. I can imagine this game turns into a Discord fighter.
    Also - with the SG reference to cost, you also have to take into account a lot of that would have been eaten up by frame-by-frame animation which takes significantly longer than animating 3D characters so I'd imagine it to cost more.

  • @Soten_Bori
    @Soten_Bori Месяц назад

    Thumbnail sums it up for me so far. It can improve and will probably be fun further down the line with some updates- but as it is now, straight cheeks in almost (key word, almost) every aspect. Definitely gonna be looking into it as it develops, since it's got potential.

  • @DOCTOR.DEADHEAD
    @DOCTOR.DEADHEAD Месяц назад

    Yes I'm all for more games with "worse graphics", but style and presentation is still an important factor when making them look appealing in the first place, and as you said that especially goes for fighting games which need a following for any fun to be had.

  • @kayame18
    @kayame18 Месяц назад

    About the character fantasy I think they aren't very good because they're meshing a bunch of references in one character, since they're doinga budget game I would be ok if they pulled a Decapre and reused assets to give characters more depth. For example the white haired kid(Killua) has the assassin/yo-yo/lighting these could've been separeted into 3 rushdown/zoning/all arounder, it would be good for fans of the series and for gameplay.

  • @21leowheeler
    @21leowheeler Месяц назад

    I dont know, simplified controls give me the ick, might not try out project L for free, which probably comes out around the same time, so this at full price is a very very rough sell.

  • @PreAlphaTonyC
    @PreAlphaTonyC Месяц назад

    As both a kusoge enjoyer and a complete and utter HxH mark I am not disappointed at all by what we're being shown. I would have loved the level of polish of like dbfz or something like that for sure (but not really cuz that game is in hell and will never recover) but I like the simple models and animation too. Plus the anime will never return anyway so if this is just a flash in the pan release and it only has an active playerbase for a year or so I wont be too hurt by it. I'm just happy that hxh finally got some love in the games industry and in a genre that I play. If they moade like a hxh moba i wouldve died.

  • @kazen16
    @kazen16 Месяц назад

    first impressions are always a good thing, when i saw the new Melty I fell in love with it but this, eventhough im s huge HxH fan I feel mixed emotion of dissapointment and happy.

  • @rookbranwen8047
    @rookbranwen8047 Месяц назад

    as both a HunterxHunter fan and I fighting game fan I will definitely be picking this up whatever happens. Main thing I am disappointed with besides the graphics is the decision to not have motion inputs, they just make games feel more fun, especially when played on stick. Ill probably just play this on an all button controller.

  • @morgboat744
    @morgboat744 Месяц назад

    im just glad an anime i love is FINALLY getting a proper fighting game. the last time that happened was JoJo All Star Battle which... is a video game.

  • @Genderkaiser
    @Genderkaiser Месяц назад

    The visual style is that anime 3D I thought that videogames had collectively realised didn't look very good, and in addition characters don't seem to have many moves. Maybe these'll be improved in the time between now and release but if it's in a state that will make people less confident in the game then maybe don't show it in that state

  • @lordxrz6588
    @lordxrz6588 Месяц назад

    It is something that I would play but those animations do need work before release. Gameplay looks fun it's just the animations.

  • @eduardoserpa1682
    @eduardoserpa1682 Месяц назад

    I was so sure this game could not be over $30, now I'm a little bit worried about them. It will be the MvCI vs DBFZ situation all over again if this comes out around the time of 2XKO open betas, specially if it's near full price.

  • @nomenclature7662
    @nomenclature7662 Месяц назад

    JMCROFTS w hair is a true cursed image

  • @gjergji15
    @gjergji15 Месяц назад +1

    One of my favorite shonen manga turned into a fighting game by one of my favorite devs. To see it gets so much negative attention because of graphics, it hurts man. like sure fine, support the top companies and enjoy microtransations up the ass cause the graphics are pretty.

  • @Yous0147
    @Yous0147 Месяц назад

    This game really looks like a reskin of Tatsunoko vs Capcom. Part of me feels like it is bonkers if they took the effort to develop a new game from their old game engine to a new platform like the switch, but at the same time the game is too similar for it to just be a remade game engine. With the context you gave it makes sense why it looks like it's from 2010. I think, having watched HunterXHunter, the stiff way the characters look works for a few of the more gangly characters but most, including the lead, don't really translate the motions of the original anime all that well in this style. The 2d portraits look iffy, I think they could easily use better art for that, but the stage backgrounds look quite good if not a bit empty.

  • @AFROKID116
    @AFROKID116 Месяц назад

    This is probably the first (in a while a longggg while) time wex have gotten an actual anime fighter that wasn't an arena fighter,

  • @lasterman94100
    @lasterman94100 Месяц назад +2

    I understand they didn’t habe the budget, but no matter how good of an explanation you have for how bad your game looks, it’s still looking like shit, and most people won’t ever try it for that reason alone
    And you might say : Well I’m here for the gameplay so it doesn’t matter anyway. Two problems : First, even people that spend a tremendous amount of time playing competitively love decent graphics, otherwise it may be harder to justify spending so much time on a single game.
    Secondly, a majority of the audience will mind, whether it’s your case or not, and if the game sales poorly, it won’t last enough for you to « enjoy the gameplay ».
    They should have focused on a brand new IP if having the HxH skin ment having greasy PS2 rendering for lack of money

  • @sylvianraccoon
    @sylvianraccoon Месяц назад

    Im on board for this game!

  • @maurowings
    @maurowings Месяц назад +1

    This feels like it will have a similar problem to nick all stars brawl where they have licenses, the dev actually cares and the game has good mechanics but the graphics make it look like shovelware and so most people will believe its shovelware even though the actual game is well made which is a shame

  • @Bulbasaur1256
    @Bulbasaur1256 Месяц назад

    My one worry is the small roster. For a 3v3 game the amount of characters seems way too small, think of DBFZ and Marvel 3 about 30-40 characters, this has 18, so matches feel like they are going to be repetitive

  • @morzathoth919
    @morzathoth919 Месяц назад

    I agree with everything. It looks like a fun budget game but unless the DLC is free it also needs to be at a budget price.
    And on the topic of HXH the series the manga is unlikely to ever be finished, the author has had health issues for years and years now and chapters come out extremely sporadically, but it is really good and I think you should look into either the manga or the most recent anime adaptation.

  • @Commonsens8
    @Commonsens8 Месяц назад

    The new footage makes it look way better! IT was switch footage before

  • @DivineBanana
    @DivineBanana Месяц назад +1

    0:38-0:48 if you wanna see jmcrofts with anime hair 😂

  • @rc9145
    @rc9145 Месяц назад

    Honestly i wouldn’t mind waiting an extra year or two if they took the time to clean up the artstyle, give the fame UI some flavor, and make the animations better

  • @matadero500kbx
    @matadero500kbx Месяц назад

    it looks like its coming for N64!
    but its NOT an arena fighter, so i will be at least trying it out