complimenti per il video molto interessante,volevo farti una domanda,ho un problema con la mia td4,mi succede che i trigger a volte non rispondono,spesso quando vengono suonati insieme con i pad,mi potresti aiutare,grazie..
I recently went from a TD-6V to a TD-4 on my DIY A2E conversion project. Late 80's Mapex Mars shells 12",16",22". 12" 2zone Space Muffins snare. Red Shot triggers. Remo Silent Stroke heads. Lemon cymbals. All into a 2013 quad i7/16gb/128gb SSD iMac running SPD2 or EZD3. Right out of the gate? I noticed the TD-4 definitely triggering way better in my rig than the TD-6V. Usable samples also sound way better on their own than the TD-6's huge library IMO. I just personally hate cable snakes, and the TD-4's harness is a bit of a Roland oddball compared to other modules, but I'm considering picking up either a second TD-4, or ideally a new TM-2 to eventually expand. Thanks for the tutorial dude! Cheers!
Awesome video. Easy to follow and you covered everything. I just bought a used TD-4 module with 4 of the matching pads. The only thing I don't get is why Roland skipped the MIDI return. You can't playback any internal sounds from an external recording device such as a PC based DAW. It's strictly for practicing or for using as a trigger. It would've been such an easy feature to add.
Thanks! This was a very thorough walkthrough. I've had my TD-4 for 11 years. Still goin' strong! I bought a TD-9 so I can add more pads by chaining the two modules together via midi in/out. Works great. Your section on Xstick/SideStick (29:57) got me thinking there must be a way to do this in drum software. I'm not sure about EZdrummer, but I found a way in Superior Drummer 3 by adding "Stacked Articulations" to the snare. I simply added "Sidestick" to a "Rimshot" stack, then used "Velocity Gate" to trigger the rimshot when I hit the rim hard enough (More Menu > Stacks / Add To > Rimshot). It's a couple of extra steps, but took me seconds to set up. Worth the hassle, if you want that feature on your eDrums.
I forget if I say it in the video or not, but I daisy chain and old TD3 and TD4 together to get a full kit. Still works after all these years. Also interesting, I may check this out next time I get behind the kit. It's been a while unfortunately.
So, in 41:44 the module will send my kit notation (like the change pad sounds you made before) to the vst, am i right? If i change into the module snare to tom, tom to crash, the ProgramChg will tell Vst the right notes, or my snare will still be read as snare instead of a tom? It's like an "import module data" in the vst learn option? Or something else?
@@ShootieSchool Yep, but when i change the note into the module, the vst will have it's own notation that must be set to fit my kit notation, that option will import it? Or it's for something else?
@@IllGib Depends on the software. EZD2 demands a specific note from the module. Other software the notes can be anything. All case sensitive. If you have a module that can change outgoing notes, you'll be all set.
Great video! I have one question, is there a way to record a groove and get a midi or normal audio file out of it? maybe by plugging it into my computer?
I use an Maudio Midi Sport to get the midi to plug into my computer. Then a DAW can record the midi. Search Midi to USB cable. Or use an audio Interface for you computer and record the audio instead into a DAW.
Very informative video! Btw, since the td4 module is now discontinued, Roland removed the drivers from their website. Will that be a issue if I want to trigger VSTs with it?
Fantastic video mate! Unlinking the zones for more instruments is a great idea! Thanks for taking the time to do this. When unlinking the zones, can they be individual midi output tracks?
This is so cool, thanks! I'm having issues connecting my TD-4 to Logic using a MIDI-USB cable. Any recommendations on how to get started? I basically get no signal from the drums to Logic.
I've had my td-4 the first year it was issued and have enjoyed using it very much. As I'm more drummer than tech guy I hadn't paid a lot of attention to the manual. Frankly it baffled me more than helped me so thanks for the clear step by step tutorial about the manual. I've gotten some bad bleed thru on my crash cymbal and have been looking for a solution to get rid of that. Still not sure that I have found the solution so any tips from you would be greatly appreciated. Btw- your tutorials on ez drummer3- working the song creator- great quality but your moves on the mouse are a little too fast for me to follow. Its like you're in 16th tempo and I need whole notes. Whatever, keep up the good work.
@@ShootieSchool My crash cymbal will resonate with sound without hitting it. Any time I strike the other pads I will hear a low cymbal sound added to whatever else I am playing. Now that I'm connected to ez drummer with my td-4, that extra cymbal noise sometimes interferes with midi mapping to ez drummer.
@@philneedham508 Try Reviewing the Crosstalk Section. If that doesn't work. Raise the threshold or lower the sensitivity of said cymbal. Look at 43:40 again, and then 49:08. I'm not sure where I cover Crosstalk in this video, I don't have it in the Contents listing. You're whole is vibrating when you play so much, the cymbal thinks it's being struck.
Hello, nice to say hello! I want to ask you a question: Is it possible to download the sample bank to a computer? Thank you for the attention you can give me.
@@ShootieSchool yo no tengo ese modulo es imposible aquí, pero yo inventé una App de Windows y quiero todos los sonidos originales de tu modulo TD4 para usarla. amo ese modulo, es mi sueño tenerla algún dia. Gracias nuevamente.
Bro, thank you so much taking time to make this guide. I've one question: did you used ezdrummer and instantly had audio feedback or had any problems with latency issues? Do you believe this module is usable with ezdrummer for playing all time or just ezdrummer after recording?
I have respectable PC specs and a simple Midi to USB converter (old maudio unit). Playing live in a 125 foot midi cable (not USB), the length of a mid-sized venue, I have 4 ms of latency to my DAW. Add a few more for the software to trigger the sounds. The answer is yes to my standards. Understanding workflow/computers is important. If you want to really get into this stuff, check out the forums at vdrums.com. Good luck to you.
Thanks man for these awesome vid! Its a very big help for me, specially just recently I acquired a td4kp . Though im having problem right now with the tom2. Don't know if its damageor what but if its in the factory setting it won't respond on my hit. So what i did is to vol up the sensitivity. Its works fine now but i still want to know if its an issue on the pad or in the wire.. I hope you could help me on this one. Thanks again man! More power..
Simply rewire tom 1 with tom 2 and visa-versa. This will help you troubleshoot whether you're having a cable problem or a problem with your tom trigger.
@@ShootieSchool I've tried it actually.. what I can't figure out is if the wire is damaged,why is it still working and not totally out of sound. Hav you encounter this problem?
Not by how you’re describing it, no. So if you plug Tom 2 cable into Tom 1, reset your sensitivity to default, hitting your first tom drum works normally?
Great video. Thanks for sharing. I'm doing some tests with MIDI to control/synchronize with other devices (like SPD30/SPD-SX)... I'm trying to send the MIDI clock from the TD4 and I realized that neither the SPD30 nor the SPD-SX receive it. Do you know if the TD4 module sends the MIDI clock? I couldn't find anything in the manual about this. (I can trigger the SPD30 sounds from the TD4 via MIDI)
Hello Brother, great video, very useful. I am sure i am going to come back again and again to this video for reference as I learned about this used TD4KP i bought now. Also i have a question on the Tom sounds, I am not liking the Tom sounds on this kit much. it sounds so different from the TD4 tom sounds i hear on the RUclips videos. I have the racks tom on low muffling and floor tom dialed up to resonate less. but still i am not happy. can you provide some inputs on which Tom sound to use and how to make it sound better. sorry for the long question by the way 😐
Besides choosing a tom to start with and muffling, I don't know what else I can share. I would consider going software based like, EZdrummer 3, Superior Drummer 3, or many of the other manufacturers out there.
No this is not an expandable kit. For my setup in the video, I could trade the three zone ride, for (2) two zone cymbals. A poor mans way to expand this kit could be using splitters on your TRS (stereo) cables and exchange a dual zone cymbal for (2) one zone cymbals. I personally combine a TD-4 with a TD-3 using a midi merger to expand my kit. Hope that helps.
Thank you for this. This is really what I need right. Just recently got my TD4. I have a question though, how will I restore the 25 drum kit presets as only one preset remained after the previous owner had reset on the module?
Menu>Options>Factory>AllKits. Did you try this? This will wipe all of your sounds and other settings. I think under Kit Copy as well, you can "restore" individual Kit presets, so you don't wipe out as many settings as Factory Reset. Let me know if this answered your question.
Thanks for the great tutorial! I picked up a complete TD-4 kit recently and when I change the settings for the individual kits and save them i.e. like volume & such the settings inputted go back to the original setting every time I turn off the TD-4 Module. Any idea on what might cause this issue?
When you power it down do you hold the power button? That's the only thing I can think of. If you unplug it, it will not save settings if I remember correctly.
@@ShootieSchool Thanks for getting back to me . . . I held the button down like you mentioned on your tutorial but it loses the settings every time. Maybe I should bring the TD-4 back to its factory default to clear it out the memory perhaps? EDIT: The culprit was the lock preventing alteration. I found out how to unlock the system by reading the following link and when you hold the power button down it now says "saving" unlike before and it works fine now, yay! www.manualslib.com/manual/141731/Roland-Td-4.html?page=47#manual
@@ShootieSchool When I try to revert to factory default settings it shows a lock on the LCD screen and I can't alter the system. EDIT: I was able to unlock the screen and now I can save any inputted settings, thank you!
When I use the Roland sounds, I use the Studio preset, Snare 06. 99% of the time, I'm using Superior Drummer, or EZ Drummer 2 to get my Vkit sounds though.
Great video mate. Very clear. Can you please explain in a video how did you assess drum vst? Including what cable you used, connections and mapping? Thank you so much..🙏
For the td4, you need a "Midi to USB" cable or interface. Before buying it make sure it meets you computer spec requirements. They have all-in-one cables, search "midi to usb" on amazon and you'll see. Mapping the td4 is covered @ 39:00 in this video. And you'll have to look at the software you want to trigger (for me it's Toontrack's EZD2) to decide what those aforementioned notes (from my video) should be.
Hey! Great video! Just a question! Is there any driver I have to install in order to record midi? I can't find the midi of roland td4 device in preference in reaper... Thanks for your time!
My TD4 (I assume all TD4s) use a 5 pin midi cable, not USB. You only would need a driver for what you're plugging it into. Like your audio interface or in my case, I use a 5 pin midi cable to USB converter which is the M-Audio Midi Sport. I need a driver for the Midi Sport, not the TD4. Hope that helps.
I've bought a new cy-5 cymbal for my td4kp. I want to use the old cymbal as a crash 2. The new cy5 came with a single cable. Can I use it somehow to plug my old cy5 and make a crash 2? Or do I need to order a trigger cable, third party, that has a cr2 cable?
A brand new Alesis Nitro Mesh is cheaper than a used Roland TD4 if you're looking for your first kit. A used Roland TD3 will save you a few bux than with a used TD4.
Hey! Thank you for this video, really helpful! I just have one question - I factory reset my roland TD-4, unlinked the zones - but now the edge sound is really low, i cranked up the pad sound overall, but the edge is still low - Do you have any solutions for this ? :) Regards, Runar
Thanks for such a lovely video.. Really helpful... When my XStick feature is On I am getting Cross Stick sound inbetween when I hit the Snare Pad right at the centre. I cross checked multiple times if my stick is hitting the rim but No I was hitting the snare head right at the centre. Also it is not happening regularly for every snare hit. But after 5-6 snare hits Im getting 1 Cross Stick sound on hitting the centre of snare mesh pad. Pls help.
Hi there, what an hell of a walktrought! I have a question, as i wanna buy a 3 zone ride, and i'm about to get a Td4 module. Actually my kit reflect my acustic one, snare, kick, tom, floor tom, hh, 2 crashes and ride. At the moment i still have the Millenium module with tom2 with ride input and set as ride, and 2nd crash with tom2 input set as crash. With the Td4, using the crash2 input trick to gather the bell of the ride, can i use the tom2 input as a crash, so i don't have to split crash1 imput? I don't mind 2 zones on crashes as i'm goin' to keep using my mono 'till they last for the moment, and i could keep choking them. All i found googling doesn't take in consideration using only two toms, but i should be ok?
If you plug a single zone tom cable into a dual zone cymbal, only the bow trigger in the cymbal will work and you'll will lose the ability to choke/squelch.
@@ShootieSchool I know, but i'm goin to plug a single zone crash so it's not a big deal, but i'm asking about the Td4, if i can do the same i'm doing with the Millenium module, using the tom input to plug a 2nd crash, and the 2nd crash input into the ride bell, so i don't have to sacrifice any pad or effect. ( i don't kow why i keep writing iMput)
@@IllGib I would say anything you plug into any cable will trigger it. I can't guarantee because I don't use the said cymbal. I have a feeling you won't be able to choke though. The Tom cable on a TD4 is a mono cable.
@@ShootieSchool The basic cymbals i have in my kit are chokable even if are mono, i don't know what magic trick Thomann did with those kits, so maybe i could still choke them. By the way the most important it's that i dont have to sacrifice a channel to get the full response out of my actual pieces, since i finally decided for the Td4 after two months of extensive researches :D The day i read that it only support 2 zones i was like D: I don't have any need to expand the kit as i wanna to reflex my acoustic set, and i got to compact after a couple of years of GAS, when i finally realized that what i have now it's all i really need :) If you wanna check my channel i have some (pretty old) videos of covers and gigs with bands, and my beloved Gretsch Renown. Thanks!
My mp3 player is only outputting music from the right side. the sound of the drums comes out of both sides, I didn't find how to configure this, could you tell me?
Hey, great video, I’m new to electro drums and this has been very informative. One question, do you know, or would anyone here know whether the FD-9 hi hat pedal is compatible with the TD-4 module?
Hi, I own a td 4kx2,. I want to have a 3-zone sound on my snare. Dou you have any suggestions for me?😁 I was about to buy for un snare upgrade but different bran (yamaha) is it possible?
I have a problem with my drum Kit. I can only hear sound in the left earphone. I recently bought a New headsets because i thought that the old one i had was broken. I plugged in my New RH-300v headphones. But that didn't fix it. I've gone through all of the settings on the Kit multiple times, i don't know what's wrong. Please help!
Assuming you're using the headphone output from the TD4. And assuming you've check the mixer/panning settings to make sure everything isn't panned in one direction. It sounds like your headphone jack on the TD-4 is broke. 'if' that's is indeed the case, it's probably because someone stepped on the headphone cable while it was plugged in, common accident. If I were you and didn't have a friend that can solder circuit boards and fix it cheap, i would confirm that the main outputs on the back of the unit are not broken. If they work fine. I would acquire a cheap mini-mixing board and plug the main outputs of the TD-4 into this mini-mixer, and monitor your TD-4 with your headphones from there. Just like I do in this video, not that I highlight that fact. Or if you're already have a workflow with a computer/DAW, stop using the TD-4 sounds and just use your kit to trigger software sounds. Hope that helps.
@@Melissa05121992 Maybe you are just distorting. With all of your gear, there are many volume knobs, turn them down or try turning the volume of just those drums down in the TD4. Also, in these video programs there are "noise suppression, and automated volume" settings. Try disengaging those if they exist in Google Meet. Good luck. Hard to tell what the issue is from here.
@@bukojoe3821 I use all of the original stock pads that came with the TD-4. So I don't really customize anything. I did add a CY12R ride in which I simply had to tell the TD-4 what pad I was using. I use custom settings for two reasons. One is if I'm using an off-brand pad or a used beat-up pad that does not trigger correctly. Two, if I'm playing Hard-Rock/Metal drums, I will increase the sensitivity settings so my hits are more even and powerful. Otherwise, there is really not much that I personally adjust. for my playing . If you're new, I would look at it in one of two ways. One, use the custom settings to compensate for how 'you' play e-drums. or Two, change your technique of how you play drums to compensate how the TD4 wants you to play. Since this has been my main kit for over 10 years, I think I have adjusted my playing to the default settings. I hope that is sensible and maybe helps you with your question. Feel free to ask something more specific, I may be able to help.
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Roland TD-4 | Video User Manual
00:32 - Volume/Kit Selection/Tuning/Muffling
02:42 - Metronome/Recording/Playback
04:32 - Coach Mode/Practicing
21:50 - Aux Line Audio Input
21:16 - Changing Kit Pieces/Sounds
26:27 - Mixer Settings/Volume/Panning
29:57 - Xstick/SideStick
32:08 - Ambience/FX/Reverb
34:05 - Custom Kit Name
35:52 - Kit Copy/Exchange/Restore
38:43 - Midi/Drum Software Triggering
42:16 - Metronome Settings
43:30 - Pad Settings/Sensitivity/HiHat Pedal
46:42 - Xstick/Sidestick Adjust and Ride setup
49:08 - Advanced Pad Settings (Pad/Trigger Troubleshooting)
53:44 - Options Menu
54:28 - Head/Rim Link (controlling Pad Zones)
56:54 - Power On/Off and Saving
57:25 - Pads/System/Kits/ Factory Reset
58:19 - Locking the TD4
01:00:49 - Goodbye
01:01:01 - Auditioning the 25 Drum Preset sounds
complimenti per il video molto interessante,volevo farti una domanda,ho un problema con la mia td4,mi succede che i trigger a volte non rispondono,spesso quando vengono suonati insieme con i pad,mi potresti aiutare,grazie..
@@pasqualelupoli71 A great place for support is vdrums.com
Thx for such a comprehensive visit to an old unit- that is new to me! My first kit in 45 yrs. Subbed !
My pleasure. Thanks for the comment!
thank u so much bro for taking the time to make this vid. I have just acquired one of these kits and can't wait to operate it with this guidance.
Great to hear, Good luck with it!
Great video man. thanks for sharing and greetings from the UK.
You got it!
Very educational video. Well well done! I learned a lot. Thanks for that!
Glad it was helpful!
Great vid I keep coming back to it..
Great to hear!
thanks again always going back to this vid..
Great to hear!
This was a great help for my old kit! Thanks
Great to hear!
I recently went from a TD-6V to a TD-4 on my DIY A2E conversion project.
Late 80's Mapex Mars shells 12",16",22".
12" 2zone Space Muffins snare.
Red Shot triggers.
Remo Silent Stroke heads.
Lemon cymbals.
All into a 2013 quad i7/16gb/128gb SSD iMac running SPD2 or EZD3.
Right out of the gate? I noticed the TD-4 definitely triggering way better in my rig than the TD-6V.
Usable samples also sound way better on their own than the TD-6's huge library IMO.
I just personally hate cable snakes, and the TD-4's harness is a bit of a Roland oddball compared to other modules, but I'm considering picking up either a second TD-4, or ideally a new TM-2 to eventually expand.
Thanks for the tutorial dude!
Cheers!
You got it. Should be affordable at the least!
Great vid man. Thanks!
You go it!
Thanks for the video, bro. Really helpful.
Superbly done! Thank you much !
Thanks for commenting!
Just bought td4 to use with rock band lol well done you amazing video!!
Thanks, Russel!
Thank you so much!!! You are a life saver!
My pleasure!
Thanks for this video... I learned some tricks very helpful!!
You got it, thanks for commenting!
Awesome video. Easy to follow and you covered everything.
I just bought a used TD-4 module with 4 of the matching pads. The only thing I don't get is why Roland skipped the MIDI return. You can't playback any internal sounds from an external recording device such as a PC based DAW. It's strictly for practicing or for using as a trigger. It would've been such an easy feature to add.
Thank you, Howard!
So good bro thank you
You got it!
Much appreciated, thanks!
absolutely brilliant Video... thank so much.
You got it!
I learned so much! Tomorrow the td-4 and myself have some thing to try out!!
Awesome!
Thank you very much for the outstanding information! I'm about to get one of these kits (my 1st edrums) and will definitely use your video many times!
Great to hear! Have fun with it!
Excellent tutorial!
Thanks!
Thank you, this is great!
Glad it was helpful!
Damn, super useful dude!!
Thank you!
i recently got a td4 for 100 bucks. this is the best video thank you for this.
That's a great deal!
That a REALLY great deal!
Thank You very much for this Video 🙂❗❗❗
You got it!
Thanks! This was a very thorough walkthrough. I've had my TD-4 for 11 years. Still goin' strong! I bought a TD-9 so I can add more pads by chaining the two modules together via midi in/out. Works great.
Your section on Xstick/SideStick (29:57) got me thinking there must be a way to do this in drum software. I'm not sure about EZdrummer, but I found a way in Superior Drummer 3 by adding "Stacked Articulations" to the snare. I simply added "Sidestick" to a "Rimshot" stack, then used "Velocity Gate" to trigger the rimshot when I hit the rim hard enough (More Menu > Stacks / Add To > Rimshot). It's a couple of extra steps, but took me seconds to set up. Worth the hassle, if you want that feature on your eDrums.
I forget if I say it in the video or not, but I daisy chain and old TD3 and TD4 together to get a full kit. Still works after all these years.
Also interesting, I may check this out next time I get behind the kit. It's been a while unfortunately.
So, in 41:44 the module will send my kit notation (like the change pad sounds you made before) to the vst, am i right?
If i change into the module snare to tom, tom to crash, the ProgramChg will tell Vst the right notes, or my snare will still be read as snare instead of a tom?
It's like an "import module data" in the vst learn option? Or something else?
You don't change the sound in the head unit. You change the note that is transmitted when triggering software. Easily done on the TD4.
@@ShootieSchool Yep, but when i change the note into the module, the vst will have it's own notation that must be set to fit my kit notation, that option will import it? Or it's for something else?
@@IllGib Depends on the software. EZD2 demands a specific note from the module. Other software the notes can be anything. All case sensitive. If you have a module that can change outgoing notes, you'll be all set.
@@ShootieSchool I use Addictive Drums 2 that have a midi mapping and learn options, so i should be ok either way.
Great video! I have one question, is there a way to record a groove and get a midi or normal audio file out of it? maybe by plugging it into my computer?
I use an Maudio Midi Sport to get the midi to plug into my computer. Then a DAW can record the midi. Search Midi to USB cable.
Or use an audio Interface for you computer and record the audio instead into a DAW.
@@ShootieSchool thanks!
Very informative video!
Btw, since the td4 module is now discontinued, Roland removed the drivers from their website. Will that be a issue if I want to trigger VSTs with it?
I've had no issues with it for a long time now and still use it.
Fantastic video mate! Unlinking the zones for more instruments is a great idea! Thanks for taking the time to do this.
When unlinking the zones, can they be individual midi output tracks?
Thanks! Whether a zone is linked or not, you can chose which midi notes comes from either zone.
This is so cool, thanks! I'm having issues connecting my TD-4 to Logic using a MIDI-USB cable. Any recommendations on how to get started? I basically get no signal from the drums to Logic.
Have you confirmed that your computer recognizes the USB/Midi cable? I wouldn't bother with Logic until you know the cable works for your rig.
@@ShootieSchool Thanks so much. I actually made it work, to some extent. My MIDI cable has two connections and I was using the wrong one :/
@@raimundoatal Good to hear!
Very useful, thanks a lot!
You got it!
I've had my td-4 the first year it was issued and have enjoyed using it very much. As I'm more drummer than tech guy I hadn't paid a lot of attention to the manual. Frankly it baffled me more than helped me so thanks for the clear step by step tutorial about the manual. I've gotten some bad bleed thru on my crash cymbal and have been looking for a solution to get rid of that. Still not sure that I have found the solution so any tips from you would be greatly appreciated. Btw- your tutorials on ez drummer3- working the song creator- great quality but your moves on the mouse are a little too fast for me to follow. Its like you're in 16th tempo and I need whole notes. Whatever, keep up the good work.
Thank you for saying, Phil. You would have to describe Bleed in this case.
@@ShootieSchool My crash cymbal will resonate with sound without hitting it. Any time I strike the other pads I will hear a low cymbal sound added to whatever else I am playing. Now that I'm connected to ez drummer with my td-4, that extra cymbal noise sometimes interferes with midi mapping to ez drummer.
@@philneedham508 Try Reviewing the Crosstalk Section. If that doesn't work. Raise the threshold or lower the sensitivity of said cymbal. Look at 43:40 again, and then 49:08. I'm not sure where I cover Crosstalk in this video, I don't have it in the Contents listing. You're whole is vibrating when you play so much, the cymbal thinks it's being struck.
Hello, nice to say hello! I want to ask you a question: Is it possible to download the sample bank to a computer? Thank you for the attention you can give me.
I don’t think you can add sounds to this.
@@ShootieSchool thanks for the answer broth! i mean, i need to extract the sound files from your TD-4 module to my computer. Best regards.
@@conchiflix2368 You'd have to record them from the analog outputs.
@@ShootieSchool yo no tengo ese modulo es imposible aquí, pero yo inventé una App de Windows y quiero todos los sonidos originales de tu modulo TD4 para usarla. amo ese modulo, es mi sueño tenerla algún dia. Gracias nuevamente.
Bro, thank you so much taking time to make this guide.
I've one question: did you used ezdrummer and instantly had audio feedback or had any problems with latency issues?
Do you believe this module is usable with ezdrummer for playing all time or just ezdrummer after recording?
I have respectable PC specs and a simple Midi to USB converter (old maudio unit). Playing live in a 125 foot midi cable (not USB), the length of a mid-sized venue, I have 4 ms of latency to my DAW. Add a few more for the software to trigger the sounds. The answer is yes to my standards. Understanding workflow/computers is important. If you want to really get into this stuff, check out the forums at vdrums.com. Good luck to you.
Thanks man for these awesome vid! Its a very big help for me, specially just recently I acquired a td4kp . Though im having problem right now with the tom2. Don't know if its damageor what but if its in the factory setting it won't respond on my hit. So what i did is to vol up the sensitivity. Its works fine now but i still want to know if its an issue on the pad or in the wire.. I hope you could help me on this one. Thanks again man! More power..
Simply rewire tom 1 with tom 2 and visa-versa. This will help you troubleshoot whether you're having a cable problem or a problem with your tom trigger.
@@ShootieSchool I've tried it actually.. what I can't figure out is if the wire is damaged,why is it still working and not totally out of sound. Hav you encounter this problem?
Not by how you’re describing it, no. So if you plug Tom 2 cable into Tom 1, reset your sensitivity to default, hitting your first tom drum works normally?
Great video. Thanks for sharing.
I'm doing some tests with MIDI to control/synchronize with other devices (like SPD30/SPD-SX)... I'm trying to send the MIDI clock from the TD4 and I realized that neither the SPD30 nor the SPD-SX receive it. Do you know if the TD4 module sends the MIDI clock?
I couldn't find anything in the manual about this.
(I can trigger the SPD30 sounds from the TD4 via MIDI)
There's many things that you may have or have not done... start here and then let me know where you're at... ruclips.net/video/DOy5fhy7o_k/видео.html
@@ShootieSchool Thanks.
Thank you
You got it!
Hello Brother, great video, very useful. I am sure i am going to come back again and again to this video for reference as I learned about this used TD4KP i bought now.
Also i have a question on the Tom sounds, I am not liking the Tom sounds on this kit much. it sounds so different from the TD4 tom sounds i hear on the RUclips videos. I have the racks tom on low muffling and floor tom dialed up to resonate less. but still i am not happy. can you provide some inputs on which Tom sound to use and how to make it sound better.
sorry for the long question by the way 😐
Besides choosing a tom to start with and muffling, I don't know what else I can share. I would consider going software based like, EZdrummer 3, Superior Drummer 3, or many of the other manufacturers out there.
@@ShootieSchool thank you. I believe as of now i am going to play with muffling the Tom sounds. Hopefully i will find something usable.
Can you add another cymbal using the line in or line out?
No this is not an expandable kit. For my setup in the video, I could trade the three zone ride, for (2) two zone cymbals.
A poor mans way to expand this kit could be using splitters on your TRS (stereo) cables and exchange a dual zone cymbal for (2) one zone cymbals.
I personally combine a TD-4 with a TD-3 using a midi merger to expand my kit.
Hope that helps.
@@ShootieSchool thank you man I appreciate that!
No prob
Thank you for this. This is really what I need right. Just recently got my TD4. I have a question though, how will I restore the 25 drum kit presets as only one preset remained after the previous owner had reset on the module?
Menu>Options>Factory>AllKits. Did you try this? This will wipe all of your sounds and other settings.
I think under Kit Copy as well, you can "restore" individual Kit presets, so you don't wipe out as many settings as Factory Reset.
Let me know if this answered your question.
Thanks for the great tutorial! I picked up a complete TD-4 kit recently and when I change the settings for the individual kits and save them i.e. like volume & such the settings inputted go back to the original setting every time I turn off the TD-4 Module. Any idea on what might cause this issue?
When you power it down do you hold the power button? That's the only thing I can think of. If you unplug it, it will not save settings if I remember correctly.
@@ShootieSchool Thanks for getting back to me . . . I held the button down like you mentioned on your tutorial but it loses the settings every time. Maybe I should bring the TD-4 back to its factory default to clear it out the memory perhaps?
EDIT: The culprit was the lock preventing alteration. I found out how to unlock the system by reading the following link and when you hold the power button down it now says "saving" unlike before and it works fine now, yay!
www.manualslib.com/manual/141731/Roland-Td-4.html?page=47#manual
@@ShootieSchool When I try to revert to factory default settings it shows a lock on the LCD screen and I can't alter the system.
EDIT: I was able to unlock the screen and now I can save any inputted settings, thank you!
Thanks for this vid. I'm still rocking a TD4 module. Have been since 2010. Could you do a comprehensive vid of the midi connection thing?
Not anytime soon unfortunately. Are you talking about the Midi Merge? What part of the vid are you referring?
hello again sir :) what kind of snare are you using? maple 1, 2, open, brush etc.. thank you sir 🙏🙏🙏
When I use the Roland sounds, I use the Studio preset, Snare 06.
99% of the time, I'm using Superior Drummer, or EZ Drummer 2 to get my Vkit sounds though.
Thanks sir :)
Great video mate. Very clear. Can you please explain in a video how did you assess drum vst? Including what cable you used, connections and mapping? Thank you so much..🙏
For the td4, you need a "Midi to USB" cable or interface. Before buying it make sure it meets you computer spec requirements. They have all-in-one cables, search "midi to usb" on amazon and you'll see.
Mapping the td4 is covered @ 39:00 in this video. And you'll have to look at the software you want to trigger (for me it's Toontrack's EZD2) to decide what those aforementioned notes (from my video) should be.
Hey! Great video! Just a question! Is there any driver I have to install in order to record midi? I can't find the midi of roland td4 device in preference in reaper... Thanks for your time!
My TD4 (I assume all TD4s) use a 5 pin midi cable, not USB. You only would need a driver for what you're plugging it into. Like your audio interface or in my case, I use a 5 pin midi cable to USB converter which is the M-Audio Midi Sport. I need a driver for the Midi Sport, not the TD4. Hope that helps.
I'm still tryin to figure my TD4 out right now. Btw, really like the Megadeth jammin part
LOL! Good times.
I've bought a new cy-5 cymbal for my td4kp. I want to use the old cymbal as a crash 2. The new cy5 came with a single cable. Can I use it somehow to plug my old cy5 and make a crash 2? Or do I need to order a trigger cable, third party, that has a cr2 cable?
Thank you so much.
You got it!
Great video. Is there anything that compares in price to TD 4
A brand new Alesis Nitro Mesh is cheaper than a used Roland TD4 if you're looking for your first kit. A used Roland TD3 will save you a few bux than with a used TD4.
Hey! Thank you for this video, really helpful! I just have one question - I factory reset my roland TD-4, unlinked the zones - but now the edge sound is really low, i cranked up the pad sound overall, but the edge is still low - Do you have any solutions for this ? :) Regards, Runar
Watch this same video again except starting at 54:29. Let me know.
Thanks! It worked great.
@@runarjensen3816 Sweet.
hi, friend
I have a question for you, can I program the metronome so that when I hit a pad it activates automatically?
thank you
I don’t think that is possible. I think you’ll need software to figure something out like that.
Thanks for such a lovely video.. Really helpful... When my XStick feature is On I am getting Cross Stick sound inbetween when I hit the Snare Pad right at the centre. I cross checked multiple times if my stick is hitting the rim but No I was hitting the snare head right at the centre. Also it is not happening regularly for every snare hit. But after 5-6 snare hits Im getting 1 Cross Stick sound on hitting the centre of snare mesh pad. Pls help.
You use the Xstick adjust setting. If tat doesn't work maybe the pad is on it's way out.
Hi there, what an hell of a walktrought!
I have a question, as i wanna buy a 3 zone ride, and i'm about to get a Td4 module.
Actually my kit reflect my acustic one, snare, kick, tom, floor tom, hh, 2 crashes and ride.
At the moment i still have the Millenium module with tom2 with ride input and set as ride, and 2nd crash with tom2 input set as crash.
With the Td4, using the crash2 input trick to gather the bell of the ride, can i use the tom2 input as a crash, so i don't have to split crash1 imput?
I don't mind 2 zones on crashes as i'm goin' to keep using my mono 'till they last for the moment, and i could keep choking them.
All i found googling doesn't take in consideration using only two toms, but i should be ok?
If you plug a single zone tom cable into a dual zone cymbal, only the bow trigger in the cymbal
will work and you'll will lose the ability to choke/squelch.
@@ShootieSchool I know, but i'm goin to plug a single zone crash so it's not a big deal, but i'm asking about the Td4, if i can do the same i'm doing with the Millenium module, using the tom input to plug a 2nd crash, and the 2nd crash input into the ride bell, so i don't have to sacrifice any pad or effect.
( i don't kow why i keep writing iMput)
@@IllGib I would say anything you plug into any cable will trigger it. I can't guarantee because I don't use the said cymbal. I have a feeling you won't be able to choke though. The Tom cable on a TD4 is a mono cable.
@@ShootieSchool The basic cymbals i have in my kit are chokable even if are mono, i don't know what magic trick Thomann did with those kits, so maybe i could still choke them. By the way the most important it's that i dont have to sacrifice a channel to get the full response out of my actual pieces, since i finally decided for the Td4 after two months of extensive researches :D The day i read that it only support 2 zones i was like D:
I don't have any need to expand the kit as i wanna to reflex my acoustic set, and i got to compact after a couple of years of GAS, when i finally realized that what i have now it's all i really need :)
If you wanna check my channel i have some (pretty old) videos of covers and gigs with bands, and my beloved Gretsch Renown.
Thanks!
My mp3 player is only outputting music from the right side. the sound of the drums comes out of both sides, I didn't find how to configure this, could you tell me?
I would guess either a bad cable or a bad headphone jack on the TD4 unfortunately.
Just got a td7 w.no manual. Am stuck on preset kits,help-tryin to cycle through library of sounds
How can we conet dslr camera with tha module for recording?
I use a capture card for video and OBS.
Question: What I don't understand: Is it possible to choose differemt Sounds for every Pad? Maybe for Snare "heavy" or for Tom 1 "Fiber" etc.?
Any sound in the module can be assigned to any pad.
@@ShootieSchool Thanx. Then I must watch your Video again. 😁
@@MarioLuniAlva Something like... Menu>Instrument>Hit pad you want>twist dial.
@@ShootieSchool THANX A LOT, Dude! 🙂🙂🙂
@@MarioLuniAlva You got it!
Hey, great video, I’m new to electro drums and this has been very informative. One question, do you know, or would anyone here know whether the FD-9 hi hat pedal is compatible with the TD-4 module?
It works. I've only tried it a few times myself.
cool
How do I assign different sounds for each zone on my cymbals? If I can.
54:28 - Head/Rim Link (controlling Pad Zones)
@@ShootieSchool Thank you! For the help and the super fast response Lol
Hi does this accept dual zone or even triple zone cymbals?
It does. For triple zone you must use 2 cables.
@@ShootieSchool so this one accepts piezo and switch type triggers right
@@God0mesu I couldn't recommended anything besides what's listed in the manual.
Hi, I own a td 4kx2,. I want to have a 3-zone sound on my snare. Dou you have any suggestions for me?😁 I was about to buy for un snare upgrade but different bran (yamaha) is it possible?
I have a problem with my drum Kit. I can only hear sound in the left earphone. I recently bought a New headsets because i thought that the old one i had was broken. I plugged in my New RH-300v headphones. But that didn't fix it.
I've gone through all of the settings on the Kit multiple times, i don't know what's wrong. Please help!
Assuming you're using the headphone output from the TD4. And assuming you've check the mixer/panning settings to make sure everything isn't panned in one direction. It sounds like your headphone jack on the TD-4 is broke.
'if' that's is indeed the case, it's probably because someone stepped on the headphone cable while it was plugged in, common accident. If I were you and didn't have a friend that can solder circuit boards and fix it cheap, i would confirm that the main outputs on the back of the unit are not broken. If they work fine. I would acquire a cheap mini-mixing board and plug the main outputs of the TD-4 into this mini-mixer, and monitor your TD-4 with your headphones from there. Just like I do in this video, not that I highlight that fact.
Or if you're already have a workflow with a computer/DAW, stop using the TD-4 sounds and just use your kit to trigger software sounds.
Hope that helps.
My drum sound nice but going on to Google meet the bass sound horrible.... How to fix it? I am currently using behringer mixer mx 400
What is "Google meet the bass"?
@@ShootieSchool Hi google meet is like zoom. My drum kick bass and tom 3 sound horrible. I am connection MX400 to irig and straight into jack.
@@Melissa05121992 Maybe you are just distorting. With all of your gear, there are many volume knobs, turn them down or try turning the volume of just those drums down in the TD4. Also, in these video programs there are "noise suppression, and automated volume" settings. Try disengaging those if they exist in Google Meet. Good luck. Hard to tell what the issue is from here.
@@ShootieSchool Thank you 😊
How to record a video ?
OBS. Open Broadcast Software.
Hello sir im new owner of td4.. can u recommend kits set up for snare, tom1, tom3, crash1, crash2, ride and kick drum.. thanks a lot :)
Do you mean that you have to buy the actual drum pads?
I mean custom set up in the module sir.. Like solid for bass, wood 12 for tom1? Thanks sir for very fast response :)
@@bukojoe3821 I use all of the original stock pads that came with the TD-4. So I don't really customize anything. I did add a CY12R ride in which I simply had to tell the TD-4 what pad I was using.
I use custom settings for two reasons. One is if I'm using an off-brand pad or a used beat-up pad that does not trigger correctly. Two, if I'm playing Hard-Rock/Metal drums, I will increase the sensitivity settings so my hits are more even and powerful.
Otherwise, there is really not much that I personally adjust. for my playing .
If you're new, I would look at it in one of two ways. One, use the custom settings to compensate for how 'you' play e-drums. or Two, change your technique of how you play drums to compensate how the TD4 wants you to play. Since this has been my main kit for over 10 years, I think I have adjusted my playing to the default settings.
I hope that is sensible and maybe helps you with your question. Feel free to ask something more specific, I may be able to help.
Thanks a lot sir happy new year :)
@@bukojoe3821 You as well!
Delay response problem when using vst
Not much info to go off of. Lower the buffer in your audio interface or DAW.
Td4 is such a beautiful little monster. It has so many features. Roland hd1 and hd3 are toys compared to it.
Can someone direct me to a tutorial to run Battery 4 thru my TD-4? Thanks!
Starwars fan also.... wow
Ha, yeah. My cat’s name is Lando!