Samsung 2024 TV Lineup Explained: QD-OLED vs WOLED vs Neo QLED
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
- Samsung has launched its flagship S95D, midrange S90D & entry-level S85D OLED TV lineup for 2024, but won't seek to communicate which is QD-OLED & which is WOLED in its marketing, so here's a detailed video to help you decide.
The company also showcased its 8K Neo QLED (flagship QN900D & step-down QN800D) & 4K Neo QLED (QN90D, QN85D, Q70D & Q60D) ranges at an exhibition event in Frankfurt, as well as Micro LED TV & lifestyle displays such as The Frame & The Serif.
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Their absurd anti glare coating ruins the entire contrast instead of the glossy coating which has a far better tradeoff
I find it crazy - people claiming how bright their TVs go , and they watch in a reasonably lit room . That should just be for convenience and stuff like Sports , News , kids cartoons etc ( bright images ) where dark scenes , and infinite contrast don't matter . HDR is mastered for dark room viewing . If you have a TV that can do 0-10 000 Nits - if WILL always have less contrast if watched in a bright room compared to a 0-1000NIts TV watched in a dark room . The lifted blacks will be bad and it's impossible to overcome in a bright room . Would you watch a movie with a vacuum cleaner going? , so why watch on a movie on an expensive TV in UHD HDR in a bright room . If you want a TV for bright room viewing get a kick ass big Mini-LED at 98"
@@nimblegoatYou’re totally right. I have a LG CX and have never played on it in a bright room, a dark room is always superior for brightness and contrast.
Innovation SUCKS !
@@nimblegoatpeople don't like that HDR is designed for a dark room. I don't have a movie theater in my house even if I tried. Are your walls and furniture black?
@@eslamarida -I keep needing to upgrade my TV and keep holding it off . The G4 83" will be silly price in my country , though who knows. So I think for me a 77" Z93A Panasonic , or a 83 C4, or a Sony A80N 83" would all be great . All have there advantages . all 3 great upscaling . Yes I don't get best BT2020 or MLA+ /QDOLED nit boost , But given I prefer older SDR movies as well and I watch in dark room . All 3 will hit or better the 1000NITS . Larger size will better higher NITS as most common owner's response . Plus still allows a great deal on a 55" in say 3 years as another option that can hit higher volume/NIts. Plus if the TV I buy looks great, that will not change it better TVs come out ( most important point ) , Plus I will build a new PC in 2 or 3 years - that monitor will be fantastic
That S95D is gonna bomb. Hopefully they have a way to remove that filter. S95C looks so clear and then S95D looks like an lcd from 15 years ago with all the washout.
The S95C does not look clear; it has a huge big reflection of the ring light right in the middle. Very distracting. Hard to focus on what you're actually trying to watch. Spreading the same amount of light over a larger area will always be better.
Of course, what's shown in the video is an extreme case, and there's a much better way to solve it: turn off the damn light. But if that's not possible, spreading out the reflection as much as possible will make it minimally distracting.
@@karlhendriksethis this coating effects its dark room performance as well.
@@karlhendrikseif you turn off the light the glossy is even more superior lmao
Doesnt matter even if u remove it it has the one connect box which mena u cant do gaming on it, so it has 144hz for no reason. 😂 samsung really shit themself
What do you mean @sidewayssingh
Seeing the light diffused over the whole screen making it look like i spread vegetable oil on it
is way more distracting tbh
The light is always diffused. It's just more obvious on a glossy surface, where the light source is mirrored.
Holy shit...Samsung finally did it. They made an OLED panel that suffers from blooming. This is incredible.
Like my plasma, when I forget to clean the panel for several months. :D
That matte screen has already killed the perceived contrast - 2:49 showing the B&W hooded crow by the water. Sigh. When will manufacturers stop putting matte on HDR displays?
I noticed. The matte screen only managed to spread out the light shining on it, whereas the glossy one did not...
I agree, but the main cause is of course the strong ring light aimed straight at the display. I don't think the glossy looks any better in this extreme scenario, the ring is also very annoying.
Perceived contrast is not as big of an issue as the reflected light where your eyes shift focus. Many of us in darker countries like to watch tv with the daylight filling the room
@@18yearsoldnot For that purpose you might as well buy a LED TV. A matte coating ruins the image quality benefits and selling points of an OLED.
@@MA-jz4yc only a bit. I have had both IPS and va tvs before
Oh my goodness this video was needed.
I've been searching the entire internet for information on 2024 Samsung TVs and found NOTHING (except everyone complaining the S95D has a matte screen coating).
Vince to the rescue!
On my S95C the S95C in the video looks way better lol. I would never go matte screen on an oled.
Koreans are nuts for requesting matte screens.
Go enjoy your philips then. Lol
@@ashokathegreat4534America so we only have Samsung and Sony
@@langstonbelin Panasonic and Pioneer for me
the matt coating is a deal breaker for me
to me too, but in my case to not buy it...I really didnt liked the image result in the matte finish, in a dark room I'll only loose quality with no gain...
@@hoffmannbeck Asus done it better
I haven't seen an anti-glare coating yet that I think looks good. It's like drinking non-alcoholic beer. 🤣
If course it doesn't look good if you are thinking about how good the the coating and the reflections look. But the entire point is that you don't want to think about those things; you want to watch the movie or play the game or whatever. "The contrast isn't so great" is a hell of a lot better than "look I can see myself in the screen, hi me".
@@karlhendrikseno shot. It’s bad every time. Gross really.
non-alcoholic beer is fine with a vodka top-up 🥴🍺
Glossy is definitely better for deep blacks and I watch most HDR content at night
@@karlhendrikseif there is lighting that you cannot control, you might as well get an mini LED already with higher peak brightness. Put a new 2024 OLED and then destroying the blacks, what is the point of the OLED anymore?
I will take the one without the anti glare coating, all day. The picture looks much better. Also, ive already completely light-controlled my room..what about the one connect box? Is it actually 48gbps? I was really hoping to get a 77 qd oled this year but it doesnt look like this is it. The only thing that would have me considering this year's lineup would be if the 90 is a 3rd gen, and if you can tweak the brightness to match the 95
I had a good friend once who told me that "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." Why Samsung introduced this anti-glare filter is beyond me. :(
Because glossy coating sucks?
“If aint broke, break it” - Consumers wanting inferior OLED junk that doesn’t last long
@christophervanzetta no sorry mate glossy coating actually boosts colour and screen vibrancy this anti-glare coating actually dulls the overall screen vibrancy as on the S24 ultra
@@christophervanzettayou are not in the majority. Your opinions on TVs are hilarious really. You enjoy your matted lcds we’ll stick with glossy OLEDs thank you.
@@enzog1078 considering that about 95%+ gaming laptop screens have matte screens, he's in vast majority, unfortunately. Which is why we pretty much don't have a choice these days.
Among 16:10 monitors there also pretty much no glossy models.
@@TabalugaDragon hardly think laptop monitors are the same thing as flagship consumer TVs, but even modern monitors are moving to glossy panels thankfully. OLED laptops are also starting to crop up which is great.
I am more than satisfied with my Best Buy exclusive Samsung 77 s89c QD-OLED TV, I purchased for only $1799! Deal of the century for this PHENOMENAL TV!
How do you liked it? Been looking at it for a week cus im getting one soon prob in 2-3 weeks that s89c 77inch
I was going to get a Sony A80L , I'm now thinking of the S89C because the price is just insane. How do you like it?
samsung loves to evolve
Just backwards
Great now they've started doing the same VA Vs IPS scenario but for OLED this time.
That matted screen doesn't look too good, it's going to be interesting seeing the reviews on the coated S95D screen.
That coating makes the screen less sharp and washed out, no thanks
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Yeah... Exactly how I imagined. A hard NOPE to S95D.
7:29 Q70 was always a Q60 with 120Hz Panel. Never a miniLED or Full Array.
@MirelRC: That's what the Samsung representative at the Frankfurt event told us, although it may be lost in translation.
Yes, Q70T/A/B/C is trash for money
@@the_guganez yeah. Usually, Q80 is closer to Q70 and it's better.
@@hdtvtest Hello Sony x80L or Samsung Q80C plz ??
@@MirelRC Hello Sony x80L or Samsung Q80C plz ?
I think the hunt for the perfect anti-glare coating has run rampant. Between the S95C and S95D, I would choose deeper blacks over hazy blacks. The light sources in your room can most of the time be fixed, whereas the aggressive anti-glare coating will forever give you the less attractive blacks.
I'm actually surprised reading comments in this video of how many people dislike matte. Why then we have pretty much exclusively matte screens on gaming laptops(as opposed to office laptops which have a glossy coating way more often) and 16:10 screens? I just don't get it. There seems to be the public outcry for glossy displays in the last few years, yet next to zero glossy options in many big screen segments 🤷♂
Once again, Vincent comes to the rescue to sort out the mess of Samsung TV range as to which models have which panels. Samsung want to confuse the consumers so they can get away with it, but Vincent is the only one who can give a clear information for free of charge, and there is no one else like him on RUclips!
Right the s95D does look washed out and the blacks are lifted., the ss5c has by far better contrast , the purpose of having an oled is having that superior infinite contrast . Now is see what Brian from whisper status was saying at ces he had Samsung turn all the lights and to him the w oled looked better because of the contrast , when they had them side by side .
Glad I didn’t wait
Matte is awful, hope they don't sell well, I can wait for the next ones with my S90C.
Anti-glare coating 🤮
Gag so much
S95D is the model to avoid it seems
One connect box always has black outs
Even my ks8000 had it
Yep my s95c had it
I'm kind of baffled what happened to OLED improvements over the year. Development seemed to have gone mostly in to increasing peak brightness instead of tackling more fundamental issues like near black performance and color uniformity. I'm not that interested in simulating flash grenades, OLEDs have been bright enough for me since like 2019 and apart from higher refresh rates and adaptive frame rate support I haven’t seen anything I care for actually improve noticeably
The matt finish looks grey black, which is Not what OLED is known for! They made a mess of it😅
The question is does the S90D comes with 3rd gen QD-OLED panel, if it does then that’s the one to get.
And that's on top of QD-OLED already having worse blacks than LCD (with ambient light in the room)
Thanks for Hdtvtest, but is there information about the *_SAMSUNG QN95D_* yet? I really hope for that
Vincent, can you test reflections from objects indirectly lit by the TV itself, which I think is a way more realistic scenario than an ring light shone directly at the TV? I also think it’d be way more useful, since _that_ is an actual problem many of us have with glossy OLEDs.
Lol the anti glare makes the screen look foggy! Samsung sux
staying with the 77" S90C SM to S95C for another year.
Hard pass for me for s95D....just thinking now if the A95L does worth the difference in price over the s95C
Stock up on the S95C while it's still being sold for a decent price boys.
Had it and had black screen every 5 seconds gaming
Won’t the s90d be a good value? S90d has similar brightness and better processor than s95c.
@@manyakgaming1346sounds like a faulty unit.
@@iubball410good point. If it has the same coating as the S95D it will still be a red flag though. In any case, the S95C can now be had for a cheap price, so it can still be worth it. I use the video processing on my PC and don't rely too much on the TV to do it. The TV's kinda sucks.
@@Ustaleone😂 he got "G"'d
Now I'd like to have a comparison with the LG TVs anti glare coating
Anti glare on oled is a crime
I could definitely see the S95D has a bit of haze in the eye retina. Mmm 🤔
I'm still.good with my S95B from 2022
😊
Nice informative video as usual. Please give me your advice which TV is the best for PC monitor and HDR gaming and movies? I'm living now in Saudi Arabia,
Thanks in advance.
s95d has blooming from anti reflection filter
If you can find a S89C and you live in the States get it! $1799 at Best Buy for a 2nd gen QD OLED that is amazing. Much better and far superior to the C3. I have had the TV for a month now and it is the best gaming TV I have had to date. Glad I didn’t needlessly spend an extra $3k for an A95L
Yesssiir getting that in 2-3 weeks my very first oled in 77inch 🥹
@@Watever310 amazing TV. Loving it
Lol I appreciate the comparison of the screen reflectivity/glare. The glossy display looks so much better, it seems like a joke. You can obviously tell there’s a light shining at the display in both instances, so why settle for all the ugly trade-offs _just_ to obscure exactly _what_ is causing the glare? Matte displays suck.
Matte looks less sharp and duller.
The pictures on the left look much nicer.
Yeah it's in the name. W-OLED is the one. W
The glare free looks worse. It makes the image looks fuzzy and low contrast.
Ill take the glassy glare over that flat washed-out blacks all day and twice on mondays
Thanks Vicnent. This matte screen does not interest me coulpled with that one-connect box. I look forward to similar takes on the LG and Sony line-up for 2024.
LG G4 OLED WILL DESTROY THIS SAMSUNG TV
the anti glare casues the blacks to look grey though
I don’t think I’m being hyperbolic when I say that whoever decided it should have this anti-glare filter should be fired.
Well they still have a glossy model
@@nttinvis The S95D has a glossy version? If not, my point still stands since that’s their top of the line model. It’s like having your only options being: a Ferrari with shit permanently smeared into the paint or a corvette but has no shit smeared all over it.
It’s just bad.
@@lllULTIMATEMASTERlll s95d is crasy expensive anyway dont see that many people buying it plus the 3rd gen panel is barely brighter but needed to compensate for matte screen (they are trying it this year i assume it will fail or hopefully optional next year)
Excellent video Vincent... You can test the new feature in nvidia cards called RTX Super Resolution os worth it? Is accurate? Thanks!
I think in a dim room the matte finish would look better, and when tbe screen faded to black you wouldnt be looking at yourself. The matte finish to me mimics that premium projector look where the pixels slightly blend together vs the panel sharpnes on glossy displays. But in a bright environment I do see why people are against it. Personaly if i was going to buy a tv for home cinema, it would be an s95d. But in a bright living room it would be the qn900D.
The anti glare is terrible. Let me get rid of reflections in my room, dont ruin the image for the TV I just spent a ton of money on.
Im glad you mention the 144hz being good for pc gaming. Every other chanel says all gaming. 120hz is just fine for console gamers. Also say no to anti glare coatings.
This just in: Tim Cruise slated to issue PSA advocating for anti-glare filters as well as a public shaming sentence for anyone found guilty of using motion interpolation.
dude the 23y samsung oled looks way sharper with deeper color and better contrast even on the youtube video.
Good evening great video. Just looking at buying a Sony XR-65-A95L just wondering if you could recommended anybody Leeds to calibrate it please
Man, - that sandwich is looking good! lol
Hi there, I've just picked up the AW3423DWF can you recommend any good screen settings please thank you
Given the recent news if the HDMI Forum screwing Linux users, please keep an eye on TVs that will start including DisplayPorts connectors.
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Hey Vincent, kind of off-topic for this video, but I would be so happy if you can answer me. It's about the contrast setting for Xbox Gaming SDR on LG OLED. Ninjician posted somewhere in a forum, that LG Contrast 85 ist extended range, meaning values for 16-255 and LG Contrast 100 is legal range, meaning values from 16-235. My question: why is contrast setting 85 correct for SDR? In the calibration menu within Xbox blacks should not be distinguishable, so the black eye disappears or is not visible with brightness setting 50. But the white sun is clearly visible with contrast 85. It only disappears with contrast 100. So black fades into black and white fades into white. Isn't then contrast 100 correct for SDR, where the source clearly only outputs HDMI Black Level limited range (16-235)? It even looks dimmer and kind of "not enough" when on contrast 85. What is your professional comment to this? :) Thanks a lot in advance and keep up your fantastic humour. *bling* 😅
I have the limited Steam Deck, with anti glare. It tends to look fantastic. I also have a C1, glossy of course. They both look amazing, but I don’t spend time looking at both of them next to one another.
will they have bfi?
What about the Q80D? Is it absent from their lineup or is it just not changing much?
I did just bought the samsung s90c it's totally worth it. Thanks for the review i did get an idea on a good quality thanks mate even its, cheap oled and the price is low its totally worth it..
I almost bought lg qned 86 mini led but theres a big difference on gaming.
What is that red diamond gelatin tv demo from??? Can I get a link for it?
they should make a coating like that, low reflection but doesn't smudge and make the light source bigger.
2:25 in here it's a complete circle
They are still doing the separate box? Hard pass.
Glad I've seen someone else say this. That box is the absolute worse. The amount of times that has caused me to lose connection to the screen whilst using an external device via HDMIS
My original One Connect Box with S95C 65" dropped every incoming signal. Samsung couldn't send out a replacement One Connect Box so they swapped the entire unit. The new S95C 65" and One Connect Box is perfect. 4K120Hz/4K144Hz, HDR, ALLM, and VRR feels fantastic with my PS5, XSX, and 3090 Gaming PC.
So between s90d and s95c which one could be better?
What's my next upgrade from a Sammy QN90A ... for gaming only ?
Thnx for opinions.
(No Oleds ... I have one. Not using for gaming)
Is there a way to determine whether the S90D’s panel is QD-OLED or W-OLED through the TV’s menu or settings?
When does qn90d come out?
What's the difference between having a one connect box and not, when both tvs support four 144hz?
So the LG G4 83 Is the one to buy.
Should I wait for the s90d or get an s95c? S90d will have similar brightness and better processor.
Let us know when Samsung releases 83” QD-OLED?
Dose the new Samsung s95d have Gen 3 Samsung QD-OLED panel ?? I searched everywhere. There is no clear answer. Thanks for the vid
So the decision to watching something in a bright room is a washed out hazy picture that is still seeable or a blotting of the picture but keeps the contrast/quality around it. It's like choosing between myopia or central serous retinopathy. Best to just watch it in a dark or dimly lit room to avoid most of these issues. Blinds exist for a reason or just leaving the door ajar that lets in some light which isn't in contact with the screen itself.
Will you review the tcl c755…??
I’m waiting for Samsung’s Super Ultra WXQAtom LED 3X Premium models.
It’s called MicroLED, Rockefeller…
The real thing holding back WOLED from qualifying for VESA's DisplayHDR certifications isn't their full-screen luminance, but their middling color luminance. VESA made it so your combined R+G+B luminance must also exceed the full-screen luminance requirement, which immediately disqualifies WOLED since it relies on the white subpixel. Word is, LG is considering switching to pure RGB for their monitor panels, which could overcome this issue (on top of being much better for text clarity)
Not only is that an outright lie, but it’s got jack to do with the video, troll.
@@JonPais How is it a lie? I'm not trolling, just pointing out why monitors using LG panels don't have VESA DisplayHDR certifications. VESA's requirements state that for a full white screen, you need 250 nits of combined R+G+B color luminance to qualify for their HDR400 or True Black 400 certifications, and LG monitors using WOLED panels are incapable of achieving that since they only do 250 nits with the white subpixel.
It is relevant to the video because Vincent incorrectly stated that WOLED monitors don't get this certification because of low full-screen brightness, but it's actually due to color luminance.
@@konga382 Current LG RGBW monitors do continue to receive VESA DisplayHDR certification. But it’s got jack to do with the video.
Matte just looks so bad.lcd can get away with because it's bright but on OLED is severely destroyed its contrast
Thank goodness I did not go for the ViewFinity S9 for the matte display!
What about QN95D... is it being discontinued?
Bottom line:
S95D = 2002 TFT/lcd panel
S90D = 2024 Proper Oled flagship 🎉
Man, his ring light has a lot more on it than mine does!
S95C looks way better than S95D, matte coatings are crap. If you don't like glare, turn off the lights or get bias lighting instead, you'll solve the problem without ruining your blacks and washing out the image. The S90D sounds again like the best option.
S90d (2023 model) yes! s90d (2024 model panel lottery) good luck my boi! 😂 i went with the 95c and get proper HDMI cables not outdated ones or fake ones & you're good 👍🏽
65'' S90D QDCC for €3000 is too much
A little off-topic, but when Sony’s event that will show their 2024 tv lineup will actually happen?
Are there any estimates?
Mid April
Samsung playing games by not being upfront with which models are QD vs W OLED, it’s lifted blacks from its “anti-glare” implementation, and continued lack of Dolby Vision support….no thanks.
The AG coating just spreads the glare all over the screen and doesn't look good, even through the video I can see the graininess in the highlights, yikes.
Rather just have a glossy screen and watch it in a dark room like you are supposed to...
The contrast is greatly reduced on the S95D. You can clearly see it on the side by side. As one would think with this type of screen.
7:12 Ideally we should still get a fill rundown of the zone count, brightness and contrast of every QLED from Samsung this year.
QD-OLED is great but FALD still has potential to give the best HDR performance in the industry.
Hello, I have a technical question that unfortunately no one can answer for me. That's why I hope you can do it since you're familiar with it. I have a Sony XH95 TV. If I connect my HW Q900A soundbar to the ps5 and then the soundbar to the TV via EarC, I can play in 1080p with 120fps. However, if I connect my hwq990c the same way, I can only play at a maximum of 60 fps at 1080p resolution. why doesn't it work with hw 990c but with the older hw q900a is does?, hdmi 2.0 shoud be enough for 120fps at full hd. I want to connect the PS5 via the soundbar because when I connect the PS5 directly to the TV and activate earc, I have problems with internal apps and the sound.
Should I hang on to my Q9FN or upgrade to the new Oled. Tv is used around 14 hours each day, mainly news, gaming and films.
LG G4 OLED WILL DESTROY THIS SAMSUNG TV
4k 240hz please. That's something that nobody talks about.
*If S90D uses qd-oled, will it be the third gen panel?*
Probably it will be similar to S90C, by first using up remaining second gen panels and then switching to third gen. Unless Samsung decides to continue making second gen panels for whatever reason.
According to the video: yes, most likely. 00:57
@@exscape*I'm talking about the S90D not the S95D.*
This is sh*t. I am waiting to buy a 3rd gen QD-OLED panel. How they heck do they get away with *NOT telling you what the heck they are using?!😡😡*
Its a 2nd gen panel s90d* 3rd gen is small improvement mostly for the ew matte model that you need higher brightness to compensate for less light pass through on matte
I WANT Q90D 43 FOR MY NEW MONITOR!
What about Q80D?
Is dolby Vision still superior than hdr10 in 2024 .. heard that since Samsungs qd oled are capable of higher peak brightness and color luminance , Dolby vision support on lg,Sony… etc..doesn’t matter anymore
So no QN95D this year?
Taking a shot at TC now, are we ?
Fair enough