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I'm sorry, but burn in on a TV after just 4 or 5 years is completely unacceptable, especially considering the cost of them. The vast majority of people cannot just keep replacing their TV every 4 or 5 years. It's the most important issue regarding OLED and you just brush over it with "well, just buy a new one when it happens".
I would be fine after 4 years since I would get one with 5 years of warranty. But if the second one wouldn't last more than 4 years it would be tough to buy again. Hopefully in 8 years technology will have progressed far...
Newer OLEDs don't have that problem. 😳
@@alphaomega1351The original comment said the issue happens after 4 to 5 years.. can't confirm for the new models yet in that case
Please stop with this burn in hype. It only happens when the same static image is displayed for extended hours.
Burn in is the old case bro and mostly occurs for static logo or images. If u stream movies, sports on daily basis u will never face such issues. And now the webOS auto refresh pixel and AI advise u to reboot tv whenever needed.
your wife's a trooper man. Its great when us men can find a woman who indulges our ridiculous hobbies.
Literally the dream
This video is not fair. Samsung is MAL tweaked. My 2021 Hisense U8G 65” n if not 2 yr old model Samsung QN90A can even out do this setting by right tweak.
This tv is def dimmed.
It should have 1350 local dimmming. Wtf is this influncer. Last year Sony X95K only has 48 pathetic local dimming. The oLED black crush is like making it 2 D if close up.
This video is shot from far away.
@@birdtj82Glad someone else noticed it, I have a Q95B, and he has not properly calibrated or at least tweaked a few settings here and there..
@@Zeegoku1007this whole video just something off about it. I have seen the same guy threw HIsense Mini LED under the bus before . I went to store, checked OUT U8H side by side with OLED for over an hr, n played it n compared with Samsung QD OLED S95B. Over all the S95B was WAY surpass any OLED, n funny Hisense U8H was the runner up before OLED . MASSIVELY land slide destroy OLED black crush issue. They awlays shoot the OLED videos from FAR FAR FAR away, so on computer/phone screen we get the zoomed in visual--“more clear more clear”. But everyhing is seen as black /white of course its more “clear” seeming on the phone or computer monitor. In person the black suit in the video is 1 BLACK CHUNK of flat color. Thats what I SAW in store when i was comparing they were playing the movie :Italian job, the matrix . The black suits just look 1 cluster of flat black, there was no texture the dark scen so much black but no depth. N face n lighter color is overly lightened up. Because OLED has issue BRIGHTEN the screen. So its PROGRAMMED to OVERERLY Darken black colors to creat illlusion of Contrast/sharp image. Its well known. Ppl just have eyes shut .
This video is no diff than like those --Bounty paper tower commercial.
Left the “generic wipe) right the Bountry wipe.
--once consumer visuallly sold the --perception,,,its BAKED in. Its called direct marketing sale ….
@@Zeegoku1007 u r smart, u got Q95B. Its so pricy tho everything Samsung flagship is like super $$$$ :) i think u are good for like 4-5 yrs lol :)
Still enjoying both the CX and C1. Great job explaining the pros and cons in this video.
17:55 Ignorance is the Bliss, this is the lesson I have learned from this video. This literally makes my day. Thank you so much.
I really like your comparison / helping the consumer choose videos. Well done and thank you for that.
One of the best reviews, the side by side comparison was fantastic and you could see the difference.
How do we know? The stores set the brightness and contrast levels for great pictures for the ones they want to sell or or given bonuses by the manufacturer and downgrade the others.
Can’t wait to get my 77” LG G3 for my Theater Room in my new house!
I bought an 83" Sony A90J last year after watching your video on them. It's the best TV i've ever had.
I just got a 65" LG C3 and I love it. Great for gaming and the blacks are amazing. I never have it at 100% brightness, even in a well lit room so idk why it would ever be an issue. So happy with my purchase. Woulda went with the 75" but it was a bit out of my price range.
Good video, I have an Panasonic lz980 oled, and I don't have any issues with the brightness at all, it definitely gets bright enough for me, in a reasonably light room with lots of big windows.
I love my QLED Samsung for watching movies. Just bought a LG OLED C3 and it's beautiful for gaming. Both TV's have their strengths and I don't think you can go wrong with either tbh.
I love my QLED Samsung for watching movies Just bought a LG OLED c3 and It’s beautiful ❤
Oled for gaming? That will burn in the panel
@@anrivera1975 haven’t had any burn in yet:) as long as you don’t leave it on a pause menu, you’ll be fine
@@anrivera1975not if he play varied games
@@anrivera1975I was wondering about that!! I’ve read reviews on OLED and found that most say they got image burn. I want to get an OLED but it will be used alot for playing music with a still image. Thats where I’m hesitant to buy one because I’m afraid the image will burn in if on for hours. I think I’m just going to go for a QLeD. We play some games on it but nothing crazy. Idk I’m still stuck and been looking at these for a few months now 😅. Hard choice
That greenish tint you saw on that LG C7 is a flaw in older OLED TVs...I had the same thing on my C9. LG replaced my panel for free because of this. It's the heat from the TVs power and motherboards that cause it
Great video, Brandon. I always enjoy your tech videos. This comparison between the two display technologies nails it. After half a year of research I decided to go with an Oled this year and I'm very happy with it. I bought an LG OLED77CS9LA which seems to be only available here in Europe (Germany) and down under in Australia and not in the US. The LG CS ranges between the B2 and C2. Because of the Deuterium Panel of the G1, which is used in the CS, I don't miss brightness in the picture of the tv at all. Before the LG I was using a Samsung GQ 65 Q 70 RGTXZG QLED TV from 2020 with FALD Display, which now does his job in our bedroom. Don't get me wrong, the Samsung is a brilliant TV with punchy colours and a good contrast because of the local dimming. But the cinematic quality of the LG Oled is so much better in so many ways and gives me what I expect from a so called immersive tv experience. In short - the picture quality blew me away. Im not a gamer and I primarily whatch movies and tv series in 4K so burn in wont be an issue and for these needs an Oled fits perfect.
well you are comparing a normal FALD display to an OLED, the Mini-LED displays perform a lot better these days. They certainly won't meet the quality of the OLED until there are significantly more dimming zones with perfect control, but a lot happened in the last three years
There was a time when nothing could beat a German made CRT TV both for styling and picture quality and tech, Blaupunkt, ITT, Saba, Seimens, Graetz, Nordmende etc. along with their Hi fi gear.
@@anthonyxuereb792 word! I had a Grundig 16:9 TV back in 1998. Rock solid, high quality and well built. Unfortunalety those days are far gone. The high production costs, due to taxes here in Germany, raises the price, so they can't compete with the market.
@@MarkusSellmann My goodness how times have changed and we still have our 16:9 Grundig but it no longer responsds, could be the power supply. I have 2 Lowe standing silent.
@@MarkusSellmannschade. Socialism kills
Great summary. Especially liked the notes on the design and slimness of the tvs when mounted on walls
Bought the samsung QN90 last year and couldn’t be happier with it. Great for movies and for gaming too. Our living room is quite bright and has a lot of windows so the brightness is really welcome. Also managed to grab it during their black friday sale for a really good price 👍🏻👍🏻
Three years ago I was shopping for a new TV. I was looking for something in the 75-80 inch realm. When I saw an array of display TVs in the shop, one stood out immediately - the OLED TV. I ended up getting a 65 inch TV for more money than I would have spent for an 80 inch LED, but the picture quality was so much better! Every time I watch something with a lot of dark scenes, I love my TV more - in particular, The Expanse looks absolutely amazing on my screen! I highly recommend spending the extra money, and perhaps taking a smaller screen, to get the amazing picture quality that an OLED TV can provide!
Any signs of burn in after 3 years?
@@seand5517 Nope - the picture looks as good as when I first turned it on!
Let's be real though, OLED has the best picture....until it doesn't work like it's supposed to (burn-in).
I did have an LG OLED develop a severe case of something. Some sort of burn in. It had a huge green spot develop in the middle of the screen. It was 2 years old and had just gone out of warranty. It is a C8. We still have it in a guest room that rarely gets used. This was right before the pandemic and we went to New Zealand for a couple of weeks and our daughter house sat for us. I believe that she just left the TV on all the time for as a kind of white noise thing. I replaced with a Sony LED. After 2 years with the Sony I find I don’t really miss the OLED as much as I thought I would. We both are retired and typically turn on the TV when we get up for music streamed from our Apple TV. The TV stays on until we go to bed again. Even if we leave the house it stays on for our dogs. Until OLEDs become bulletproof or our use case changes I think that we’ll stick with LED.
Just an observation. When you have the QN95C next to the LG C3 It kind of drives the point home that brighter isn't always better as the Samsung looks washed out compared to the LG.
I saw one in a store and I'm pretty sure it just comes with the gamma set way too high. Some calibration should yield a much closer result
The amount of ambient light in the room makes the difference. In my bright room, the LG would look too dark and shadowed.
It's due to the camera. In person you wouldn't see that.
Watching you from 🇬🇭 and always love to see your new review B..good job guys.
One of the great information video.. thanks a lot very insightful and clear.
Living room: Qled
Basement: Oled
Dark Bedroom: OLED
Agree, I have a LG C2 in my bedroom but no way would I put it in my family room. I want a tv that is vibrant and can handle EVERYTHING, and not watching in film maker mode lol
@@rct8884 Why wouldnt you put an OLED in your family room?
I used to own an OLED tv and no doubt about it the picture was better than a QLED, but the burn-in was a deal breaker for me and many channels today leave their banner up in the corner of the screen and over time the image gets burned in. I watched another YT channel where they did burn in test on the new S95C and LG G3 and after 200 hours they noticed burn in on them. For me it is QLED for a TV you actually watch for many hours.
Agree
I’d not even worry about burn in I’ve had my LG C1 for 2 years now and no sign of burn in. Trust me using the tv normal you won’t have to worry about burn in.
What do you usually watch for 200 hours straight that has got static images?
@@jacobsimiyu3663 CNBC,DWTV, BLOOMBERG,Any local news channel, PBS etc.
I had the same concerns as you before I bought my first OLED. I went with LG as they seem to have the best preventative measures/tech in place. I’ve had two OLED TV’s in my house now - one for three years (no burn in) and one for two years (no burn in). Both see daily use. While the danger is still there, and the panels will slowly get less bright as time goes on, by the time either of those things happen to where it’s noticeable, I’ll have already replaced them.
It might be a good idea to talk about how these work with games a little more. Gaming is huge nowadays.
Man i wish i could find someone like you to install and mount my tv
Im in the market for a new TV, after 14 years with my 50in Panasonic, which still looks great. Nothing like todays tv picture, I know, but the reliability is pretty amazing. Honestly, I couldn't some of the differences in picture you were pointing out in the video. Some looked the same at least on RUclips. Im leaning towards Qled because my room is so bright . Your videos have been very helpful in explaining the differences between the technologies and narrowing down my choice.
Omg absolutely QLED. My 2021 Hisense U8G --VA --1600 peak nit, 370 local dimming. Went FULL Gear d other day spring day 11:30am. I did not want to shut curtain cuz the sun was out the green tree from window. I am on 5 th floor above all trees. Sooooo bright. I did test. TV went up to 100% peak. 1600 nit peak. N STUNNING. Just bright, crisp, stunning glossy elegant. THERE IS NO frigin way…LG C2 like 700 peak nit maybe 780 can do that.
Or like 2022 Sony X95K, i believe still crapy around 700 nit peak.
I dimmed my 1600 nit TV down to like 45% to get --what is OLED PEAK visual. (I also dimmed black level to make it optimized to be Crisp again).
OMG it looked horandous. Wtf it would look like $680-800 TV dim.
NO OLED for me, hell no lol.
Okay i am talking about 2021 flagship. Ppl bought Samsung S95B, last year…then they can have cake n Eat it too.
I if i were anyone i would get Hisense U8K (MINI LED) or Samsung QD-OLED.
Panasonic plasmas were legendary. I had a 42 inch 2009 model for 12 years.
@@birdtj82I would recommend OLED. Most QLED tvs have terrible colours. It doesn't compare to the vivid, accurate colours of an OLED. You're only looking at it from one position.
Same for my 15 years old Pioneer Plasma 43"! Made in Japan, of course!
After 12 years of a Panasonic 50" plasma i am going for a Samsung 65" QLED tv, also because i have alot of light in my room.
I just bought a 2000 + NIT QLED for use outdoors on glass roofed deck where the afternoon sun shines straight onto the screen. Its great, clear in direct sunlight and its anti reflective coating works a charm. It was also relatively cheap for a 85 inch screen. Summer evening movies on the deck (10pm sun set) are possible and for the first time, given sport, beer and BBQ just go together better outside, I have my perfect match day set-up. Currently no OLED would match it's performance in this setting regardless of budget and it was cheap.
But every other screen in the house is OLED and except for price and super bright environments I see little room for QLEDs going forward. If you have a very bright environment or limited budget and want to super size, don't be put off QLED. You can get a great QLED for £/$ 1k, a great 85" QLED for £/$ 2k. But for everything else, if your budget is £/$ 1k + just look a OLED.
For the budget market I think you still get better picture processing out of QLEDs than budget OLEDs today but with the cost of OLED panels dropping they will reach parity very soon.
Nice video always look at your videos before i pull the trigger on buying a tv great results
Great vido Brandon l always enjoy your tech videos This comparison between the two display technologies❤
I owned an LG C8 OLED, and it developed burn-in after 4 years. So it's 100% still an issue. I now have a mini LED TV, which is much better in my bright living room and better at handling reflections. The biggest downside is blooming - i.e., slight halo effect when there's white on black - which is not a thing with OLED TV's. If you can deal with that, then I think mini LED (i.e., QLED) is the way to go. If you don't care about burn-in after 4 or so years, then go with OLED. Neither technology is 100% perfect - that's why there's a choice. It's a matter of determining what's most important to you.
Well I mean it was an issue 5 years ago. Incredibly tech improves and you aren’t the end all be all of use cases.
@bobbrossify burn in is definitely still a issue with oled my friend installs tvs and sound systems and he gets calls for oleds getting burn out before the 3 year warranty all the time he says if money not a issue get oled the picture quality is better but long term no
Waiting for you to get your hands on that TCL QM8!!
Great video. Where did you get the mobile tv stand? Please and thank you
also worth talking about is PMW which q-led tv's use.... and oled do not.
you might not see it.... but it is there.... and it can make your eyes tired.
Problem, at least in my market is that OLED keeps getting more and more expensive - while every other TV seems to still get cheaper.
So even though everyone who cares know OLED is the best for picture quality, and more is made and all that jazz, the price goes up. 55" cost the same or more than what 65 did a few years ago. At the same time I can get 85" non OLED TV for a 3rd of the price of 55 OLED
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This was just what I needed thanks so much
Just got the C3 and can't wait to set it up! I saw it on display in Best Buy and it was gorgeous! Bought a nice sound bar to go along with it! Lol
Whats its like, I'm tempted to go for one
It would be nice to see the power supply unit and ports on a separate unit from the TV. It will make connections so much easier.
what seperate units would you like to see?
“They are thicker at the bottom”
Im old school and still watching my Pioneer ELITE PRO-1160HD and I absolutely love the picture quality and temperature. Oh and the speakers on it are awesome also.
Those are good but everyone that eventually upgrades to an OLED tv tells me how much better oled is
Great Video! Thank you so much for the clarification!
I have owned an LO OLED for five (5) years now and I can attest to the incredible picture that it provides. HOWEVER, I am GREATLY disappointed about the burn in that this television has incurred since owning it and simply using it for everyday television viewing. Consequently, UNLESS the OLED televisions can overcome this OLED drawback when I shop for areplacement somewhere in time to come, I would look at the top of the line QLED televisions MORE seriously than the OLED televisions.
OLED screens have made advancements for burn in. It used to start happening at around the 700 hour mark. Though, now that they have switch to deuterium instead of hydrogen, it lasts for about 4000-7000 hours before burn in.
You have convinced me to go for a Neo QLED. I am going to replace my 14 year old 46 inch Panasonic Plasma with a Samsung 75 inch QN95C
@@monkeymagic4600 Tbh, you're better off with an OLED. Samsung will usually replace burnt in panels, and you wont see any burn in for about 4000-7000 hours. Basically, by the time you'll see it, you'll be in the market for a new TV. (This is coming from somebody who has both a QLED and and several OLED screens.
QLED has dang good local dimming and FAR SUPERIOR brightness without high risk of burn in. I got the 43" Samsung QLED TV for my PC monitor
Fantastic job, thank you so much!
Burning is my main concern and I guess if you buy even brighter Oled the burning may come quicker? Although I didn't really notice the burns on this example you gave.
I will never get a TCL again! The volume blasts one second and goes down low the next. I’m constantly turning it up and down because it literally will blast you out. I hate my tv which is why I found this video.
Loving the vid's 👍 question, there is no doubt the contrast looks better on the oled but it does seem to crush blacks a lot compared to the qled? Rewatched The Batman on my Q90R and its not a black out room as it is the main living area and i am very impressed the qled. I know a starfield on the oled would destoy the 90r but the safety of no burn in and bright room performance with the new Qn95c seems like a better general performer. Am I wrong to dismiss the oled? I do watch day time and have very large windows so the tv run at 45 out of 50 brightness and this is a big fear factor with oled... Surely a qn95c will be an improvement over the q90r or do I go oled 🤔
OLED for dark room night time viewing. QLED for daytime viewing and all around viewing under all conditions is my suggestion.
I think burn in is not really a likely issue, it was my hesitation point at first too, but 65 inch CX is 2 yrs in now, and I use it a lot, no issues.
To note the new Samsung q led all the stuff is outside so they are very thin and has deffo closed the gap vs how they used to be great video man
I’m trying to decide if I should go with the 83 inch LGc3. You mentioned in passing there is some downsize to going to the 83 inch. Could you be more specific
Gamers probably worry more about burn-in. As a heavy PC Gamer when I was buying my TV a little over 2 years ago it was down to a Samsung Q80 65" and a comparable OLED. I went with the QLED because I was worried about burn-in. I asked a Home Theater guy at Best Buy if it would be worth trading in my QLED for a comparable Mini-LED model. He said not really.
I think we are now at the point where high-end TVs generally have little to no major drawbacks and are all fine as it is. We just have our own preconceived opinions about brands that we generally avoid. Like me, I've had issues with Samsung TVs before so I steer clear away from them while I've had favorable experience with Sony so that's what I prefer now.
My parents had this really expensive 50 inch Samsung TV in their room. And it started to get spots on the screen over time. I couldn't believe it. I was like ya'll spent on this money on this TV and look at it. After that I made a promise to myself i'd never get a Samsung TV and i've stuck to that.
No drawbacks on modern tvs? I want a 4K, 120hz TV for a PS5 and PC monitor but I am worried about burn in of OLED and QLED with the icons on PC. Any tips? I am considering the Samsung S90C or S95C 55", LG G3,
@@H2KSP That one tv from years ago made you never purchase an entire brand of tv since then and for the future? Interesting.
You guys are the best! Love the videos :)
Was that LG G3 b-roll your own footage? What was that wall paint color?
What concerns me more with OLEDs is the screen degradation - the organic components degrade over time. I've seen this on identical tablets using AMOLED displays.
One bought 6 mths later than the other on identical settings had a distinctly brighter screen/image.
If I'm spending $3000-$4000 on a screen, I want to know its brightness and vibrancy are not going to degrade after 12 mths...
I have been abusing of my LG OLED since 2018 and its still kicking. I watch lots of 4k bluray with excellent HDR and I haven't seen any degradation or burning.
Unless you have a time machine that goes 10+ years into the future to see if this is truly a problem how in the world do you expect to find out if this is truly an issue today? 🙄🙄
@@jeffmattel7867 OLEDs have been around for 10 years... no-one in that time has done any research, testing or comparisons? Even with current technology?
@@jorgeu111 But how would you know the screen vibrancy/intensity had declined or not? It happens gradually over time so you wouldn't notice so much except with a comparison of an identical new screen.
I didn't notice it happening with an amoled tablet until it was next to its new version...
@@jamied1579 well, its absolutely likely to have degraded but what I meant to say is that its still impressive and vibrant. I can't see any degradation. I am absolutely satisfied with it. Degradation haven't affected my experience at the 5 years mark.
For all those baby boomer and Gex X out there might also want to remember those CRT they grew up with had the same capacity for burn-in. Typically not an issue unless you watch programming with a continuously static image or news chyron all day.
You don't get that much of blooming on the qn90b though. I own the tv the 55 inches in specific and I'm literally blown away. I was about to get the c2 but chose the Samsung over the c2 who was also a bit cheaper because the overall better brightness. Now in this video he didn't set the tv properly, the brightness is too high for some reason as well as the contrast. If you set the qn90b properly, you can barely understand the difference between the c2 and qn90b. The only downside is the slight more blooming when it displays bright objects in an absolute black background.
I love this review, I've saved it and will come back to it as I'm in the hunt for an 85" TV. What's the refresh rate of the LG OLED TV? Finally, the TV stand, I love the stand that you use for your middle TV- LG OLED, what's the name, and where can I get it? Thanks.
In my sixties, and noticed that my nice flat wall hanging 55' led with all the bells and whistles still shows me the same crap our 20" b&w set did back in the 60's, except its likely not going to last anywhere as long. Sports, movies and sitcoms are no more exciting to watch now than they were then...actually, it was better then
Yeah, I'm the complete opposite. I don't want a product that's amazing now but fails within 5 years. That's a waste of money.
I originally bought a OLED because I got tired of too bright TVs (they had to be turn down to around 15 to 10% bightness to be used without giving me headaches) but after experienced serious image retention Within eight months of ownership, I stopped using the OLED and went back to my 6. Year old TCL
I rather have something that works and I don't have to worry about it, name something that looks amazing but I have to worry about burn in. The stress isn't worth it.
I would bet that would come into play for me more if I didn't have the knowledge ill get more tvs each year. So I understand that and I am same way on lenses and non-tv tech
Is your TV turned on many hours of the day to the same content? Have 4 OLED TV's, the oldest is an LG B8 (which is almost 6 years old and has over 5,000 hours) and it has ZERO imagine retention nor any BURN IN. But I don't leave CNN or ESPN on all day all day long, and if I did I would have gotten a LCD or Mini LED TV. I hate blooming, so thats my biggest concern, it's one of those things that once you know about it you cant stop looking at it.
@@michael-4k4000 I often game 2 to 4 hours a day and depending on the weekend, I can no from 0 game time to 12+ hours of gaming. However the day I suffered serious image retention, (lasted over 12 hours) I was watching bleach anime. (I only watch a video content about an hour max. My TVs are primarily for gaming)
I also have all the burn in protect on. However after experiencing that, I don't want to go back to OLED. Sure my LG C1 looks superior to my TCL, but the stress isn't worth it.
My LG CX 55 has developed burn after just 2 years use. I watch a lot of news and use the TV as a monitor. I thought the issue was rare and preventable but I guess not as I took all the precautions to prevent it. Great colours but the tv is almost unwatchable now.
Nice review keep up the good work fella
Ive had a oled 2 times now and the burnin (even with the protection options) is coming basicly after couple months already.... thats why I dont go oled anymore.
Do u keep tv running all the time? Do u see the same content?
@@jjaisudhan noo just between 20:00 and 23:00 for 3 hours a day basicly diffrent content and football matches. Basicly around 6/7 months you started to see colour diffrents and burn in spots. After 1/1.5 year its basicly not ussable anymore for me. Switched now to Neo Qled from samsung for 2 years and I had no problems...
YES. Awesome video. I've been holding on to my notes from the last year of all the differences between QLED and OLED (QUHD, ULED for that matter), still confuses me. LOL This was a great and concise video that broke each down wonderfully. Still on the fence and will probably be ready to purchase a new TV in about 2-3 months. Seems prices are always in flux and just have to keep on the look out for the deals. Thanks again. Always enjoy your videos.
you don't need notes. just buy an OLED, LG A2, B2, or C2 are all excellent and though there are small differences you won't notice the difference in most situations. The B2 is probably the best bet as it has 120hz and if you watch sports it will look a touch better, though the A2 still looks amazing. You simply cant go wrong, if $ is a concern get the LG A2 and get a larger size. if you are going from a 55" LCD any new TV with there slimmer bezel's will looks smaller then the comparable size, so if you had an older 55" get a 65" OLED, trust me bigger is better and it really is better buying a larger size model then putting that money towards a higher end model. You simply cant go wrong with any OLED.
@@michael-4k4000 Thanks for taking the time to respond. I've had issues with other LG products in the past, so have been a bit leery of spending a huge amount of money on anything of theirs for a few years now. Also, not a fan of their layouts of their OS screens. For lack of a better word, they almost seem "primitive".
I've usually been a "full house" Samsung guy as well...so everything connects and works together well. Planning on upgrading my sound bar system as well when I get my new TV, so worry about compatibility mixing different brands.
However...with that said, your comments give me pause, as well as, I've just watched this video on burn in issues with OLED TV's. I remember I had a (720p...omg, how did we live with that LOL) Plasma TV about 15 years ago that had a terrible burn in problem, so I really don't want to go back to having hat issue again. The testing they're doing do suggest the LG's are fairing better with this issue overall. So will give them another look.
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In any event, it's going to another 2-3 months before I'm ready to actually lay out the money for this purchase so a lot more notes and research can be done. 😁
Thanks again for your comments. Cheers.
@dinocub1 I have the same thoughts as you. A little skeptical about lg products. I have a 10 year old samsung 55 inch lcd , still going strong. It was a top of the line back then and so it has proved . I have my eye on the G3 , but with it being so expensive for 77 inch model I have to settle for probably a 65 inch or a c2 at 77 inch. Like you I will wait , maybe till prime day and see if prices come down a bit
We bought the Samsung OLED...love it
I live in South Texas where 9 months of the year are sunny ( and dang hot). For the last few years, i have owned an LG CX Oled TV as the main TV for movies and videogames and even with windows all around with curtains open, it looks excellent in terms of contrast and brightness. I own an QLED TV and although has good picture quality, OLED is just much better. No regrets.
Liking the Song A80L for the Acoustic Surface Audio+ as I am thinking of not getting a sound bar. The LG C3 and G3 still have caught my eye. The G3 is just more expensive and I am not sure we value the look on the wall for the extra cost. Which route would you go with this info?
I love how the OLED look but for the cost and the burn in that’s ultimately the deal breaker. I wouldn’t be upset about the burn in if the price was similar to the Samsung QLED within a couple hundred dollars in oppose to +$1K. I’m using my PS5 and Series X majority of the time so if the gaming on it wows me on the QLED I’m fine with it.
There really is no risk of burn in with an LG OLED. Go read on rtings about it.
Yep. The burn in is still a major deal breaker.
Stop watching news channels such as cnn, fix, sky, Bloomberg, msnbc, cdisn, etc… too many static areas
I’ve had the the lg c10 for about 2 years of heavy use and no burn in so I dont think that’s a valid issue
Imagine what will we get in the next 10 years
I keep hearing how dim oleds are.. I upgraded to Samsung S95C QD OLED and it is not only brilliant and vibrant.. its bright. Very bright. It's brighter than the low end Samsung TU8000 that I upgraded from.
This is exactly what my football 🏈 room looks like… gotta love it
How good are the quality on the huge screen tvs? I hear ppl knock on TCL and Hisense that they're cheap brands
I use my PC connected to the TV and was very close to getting the qn90b but then I heard about the rainbow smearing issue and that the sony x95k had it too, didn't know what to do! Now it seems like they've directly addressed that with the qn90c so I'll probably be pulling the trigger on that, even though the review for it from this channel wasn't too glowing. Don't know how they managed to make an IPS with the advantages of a VA but I'm impressed.
I saw the qn90c and x95k and there’s no way the Samsung is better than the 95k… the 90c seemed to wash out at an angle too. Get the x95k in 85 and u won’t regret it and have a better tv than the 90c
I bought the 90b ive had np with it beautiful tv my pc connected to it i game for 12hrs straight some times with no worries of burn in this tvs gorgeous
You don't notice the glare issue IMO when watching. It's really just when the tv is off its more evident. Those 2022 tvs are great
@@BTheInstaller Good to know to keep my options open thanks. I figured it couldn't be that bad because they're so popular and well reviewed but of course if I search for qn90b rainbow in google or youtube you will only see the bad cases.
She isn’t interested at all 😅
The Best review here! Thanks a lot!
I went with a s90c and although it might not be as good as the G3… for the price difference the quality is worth it. Best bang for buck TV on the market right now.
I had a great LG OLED for 8 years now from 2016. It just broke yesterday, burned out. From one minute to the next.
Ordered a samsung Neo QLED QN800c 8k today. Im absolutely excited for that screen 🤩
burn in becomes a big issue if you plan to use the tv as a PC monitor, especially if you use it for ~8 hours a day. The QN QLEDs also have 144Hz which is great for gaming, while the LG OLED are still limited to 120Hz. Also note that the contrast might appear better and is better on OLED but you will soon forget that once you only have one TV at home and nothing to compare it to. Heck even with my old standard backlit Bravia from 2017 I think black looks good, even though when it's completely dark you'll clearly see that black is actually more like grey and glows.
Yeah higher end QLEDs produce a nice picture and serve a purpose and can save some money or you get an OLED if you just want the best picture.
I've used multiple Plasma TVs in the past as a computer monitor -- No problem. I've used one OLED TV as a computer monitor -- No problem.
7000 hours on my old CX used for 10-12hrs per day as PC monitor never had burn in. Now on a 42 C2 with nearly 3500 hours and its fine.
That is incorrect: LED displays are not susceptible to burn-in. It is physically impossible. You may end up with something that emulates burn-in, but that is a problem with something other than the LED display itself. Plasma TVs are/were susceptible to burn in, but not LEDs.
@@-108- wrong lol, i worked in a command center where LCD LED displays were showing the same thing 24/7 and they definitely had burn in after years of being abused like that.
Best TV Reviewer on RUclips, straight up!!!
That's nice of you to say. There are a lot of smart and creative reviewers.
2:05 Does that TV come with those handles? I need to occasionally move my TV, and those handles look great. Searching "TVs with handles" brings up nothing.
You should mention the ABSL issue with the OLED TV's because that is an issue for me.
Not on the newer ones. I have the C2, no ABSL. You must have an older one.
@@wombat5252 ASBL exist on every single OLED. LG has reduced it in active content like movies. But it's still there and if you use it for a PC monitor, it's impossibly bad.
ABL also exist when transitioning from a dark scene to a bright one. That quick dimming from bright to dimmer on a bright scene is noticeable.
But everyone ignores flaws of OLED and only focus on "blooming" on MiniLED. Also burn-in is a factor and longevity because of it. Of course this depends on if you barely use the TV or use it a lot, and then also what type of content.
@@loki76 Doesn't exist on my C2 or then I suppose I'm blind? Yeah the blooming effect annoys me on mini LED so that's why I prefer OLED but OLED has it's flaws. I REALLY dislike the ''strobing'' effect on my OLED. This happens on them all. OLED has it's flaws too, no TV is perfect. The burn in is a lot better now than before obviously but sure, mini LED will last you longer technically.
It does actually but I deactivated mine using the LG service remote. 😬
@@loki76 The problems on QLEDs are much more horrible and in all type of scenes. The dimming side effects are a big dealbreaker. Hundreds of problems vs some problems that are not that noticable. Brightness alone makes not good picture quality. Brightness is ovrrated. The OLEDs can be very bright if needed. Full fields are rare in real content. Specially the Samsung Mini LEDs are really really bad. Tricks and stuff that fakes the picture. Killing details, faking colors, creating weird blooming or pulsaring effects.
Wow qled looks so washed out its horrible never ever again Lg❤
I was scrambling between a Samsung QNLED vs an OLED and I had the same thoughts as you. I’d rather have a tv with awesome picture quality right now and maybe have to replace it in five years or so. Just bought a 77in Samsung S95C QNOLED and it came with a year extended warranty. Burn Baby Burn!!!
I get that the oled TV have a better picture quality overall but it isn't like it's 2 a 3 times better then an qled mini led. Honestly is is a litter better. Not night/day difference
tbh after OLED issues with phones i would go with a QLED or Mini LED TV for my next upgrade? Durability for me is a big factor and my family sometimes has the TV on the entire day!
Thank you for the video. It was really helpful in deciding what I would buy. Waiting on G3 prices to come down a bit. I know you mentioned for sports qled would be fine but anytime I see a oled in the best buy near me I can't think of getting the qled
G3 would be amazing for sports. It's a nearly perfect TV
I was watching the heat game today, stream was so low quality 😢 can the oled save it
@@BTheInstaller appreciate your feedback and all the work you do I love the fact you simplify your content for viewers like me who want to understand what TV is good for what use case. I have seen other presentations which go into too many technical details which are good on paper but don't really make me understand what to buy. Keep up the great work. I am hoping prices for the 77 inch fall to around 3500 by thanksgiving for me to buy.
@@Dma118no the oled can not save the quality sadly
Burn in is a big problem... for that reason I think qled is a better option...
No is not 😂
u make all clear to me, led, qled, oled...bravo. what about energo consumption?
Wow that's a great video thank you very much. Keep on the good job..
I think the U8H very close to OLED without the burn in risk .it was rated the best over all tv for 2022 in the mid range but it can compete with tv twice its price as well. nits of brightness 1500-2000 and low input lag 120hz 2.1 hdmi google and alexa the picture is amazing
i have it and i am very happy with you. display is beautiful to play games and watch movies especially in the cinema night mode. plus very strong audio quality.
When you say "only 77inches"... up to what sort of viewing distance would 77inches be good for? At what distance would it be better instead to upsize to 83/85inches? Thanks
According the rtings seating distance calculator. 10 feet is the max distance for 75/77 inches
Good video, but wouldnt it be more fair to compare the QN95C (samsung's top of the crop neo QLED) to the LG G3? the new OLED G3 or even samsung's own S95C produces brightness as good as the QN95C w/ the benefits of OLEDs. The C3 is best in its class, but the brightness will lack the QN95C as the direct comparable would been the G3/S95C.
you should do a review on what they call is wallpaper tv where the screen is thin as a wallpaper and the component that sends the signal is separate from the screen there are wires to connect them together.
Your videos are great. But, when we ask whether we should buy a specific tv over another, all reviewers will just refer us to what's your use case and preferences.
I can understand that you explain very well that each tv has good and bad points and the value of the reviews is to actually sample and display all top tvs.
Rtings and Vincent of HDTV each test get into specifications and details for comparisons that inform consumers as well, but can sometimes still leave us undecided. Point is, no one can point at one tv that will satisfy everybody at the same time. I will never buy a tv over 77inches because my opinion is over 77inches is projector territory. One reason is huge tvs are difficult to handle, as you know .
Anything over 77" is projector territory? No it most certainly is not! Projectors are inferior in every way but size. You'll never get the colors, contrast, brightness and perfect blacks as an OLED or Micro LED.
@@walmartpimp2 you can get a very good projector for less than some huge tvs. I do have very good tvs too, but I also like to watch movies on a 100in screen. How much is a good 100in TV? 120in?
@@walmartpimp2 THATS NOT true.
LOOK UP 2020 Samsung Q90T, Hisense H9G…al the videos form STOP the Fomo n Quatum. Side by side comparing to LG c9 sony H900x. Its just epic. Both Samsung Q90T, Hisense H9G/Q9G already looked OLED pitch black. The only difference is that OLED ppl dont even WANT to look at it. N even if they are like :”wow,,,” its always fallowed with “but” then if there is 1 % of tiny bright something that cant match oled---in PITCH black. That is Completely GONE as soon as there is a just medium room light, or morning sun . When u need Bright TV n all the black turn to grey instea of black. That OLED cant not reach cuz their black is elevated but their BRIGHT color is like 40% as elevated as QLED. They immediatly look like $650 tv vs $2500. I have gone to store checking it out for years. Cuz year n year i am like :”this maeks no sense”.
@@charlesmyers8150 Quality over quantity. I love movies too much to watch them on some inferior device. I guess you don't love movies.
Watching on Samsung Neo QLED 8k (85") TV
im trying to decide between the LG C2 77" or the Samsung N90b 75" i do alot of gaming and wondering if the double the price C2 is worth it as I can upgrade my speakers with the saving
I agree about the possible burn in situation. IF I get any….I can finally buy a new one :P
I just checked out an OLED and QNED at Bestbuy. Both were LG and had the same features/plug in options. I noticed that the QNED looked better from side angles and stayed bright/the screen didn't look dark from a less ideal angle which people may experience in a living room. It also costed $400 less for the same size and brand. (65")
Oled is better bro
@@paulwatkins2333 How is it better when the viewing angle is MUCH worse? And they both have the exact same hdmi 2.1 ports, audio return hdmi port, optical audio, etc.
@@Awesome_Forceit’s just been proven time and time again that OLEDs are the best in terms of picture quality. You’re picking 1 thing that the specific tv has over an OLED and saying that tv is better. I mean if that’s all you care about is viewing angles then yeah go ahead and get that tv, or a projector that handles the viewing angles even better, but if you want the most well rounded and best looking tvs(in a dim to moderately lit room) go with an OLED. As long as it fits your needs and you are happy with the purchase then go for it!
Everyone is different. I have had 5 different OLEDs from LG, Sony, and Samsung and have loved them all. I literally just sold my 83” A90J today because I wanna try something different. Either the 98” TCL he shows at the end of the video or a 120” ust projector like the Formovie theater, haven’t decided yet. Just wanted to go bigger since we just moved into a place where we sit about 12 feet away
@@jamesadkinsiii7925 QNED also shows more detail for gaming, which is one of the main reasons for me to get another TV.
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And the price is about $400 + less than an OLED.
@@paulwatkins2333 My 2013 Panasonic plasma ZT60 beats both Oled and qled!
I always wondered what is the life expectancy of an oled? I heard they can go at least 30,000 hours before they fail. My last sony lcd which is 10 years old had about 8000 hours and works great still i gave it to my mom and bought a sony oled. Sounds like the qleds can last alot longer. which makes sense considering they dont have burn in. I have the sony 48” a90k which i love so far great audio and picture its amazing.
Have an LG B8 55" which is almost 6 years old with over 5k hours and still looks excellent. It's not as bright as my new C2, but unless they were side by side you wouldn't notice the difference. They both look great. I will say this, I have never had a TV that is 5+ years old that still looks and feels so good. The LG B8 has just about everything you would want today, HDR, Dolby Vision, 120Hz, 4k, all the apps work great, the only thing is lacks is HDMI 2.1 which I don't need any way.
@@michael-4k4000 yeah lg and sony are both great. I liked the audio on the sony. I think sony has the best picture processing in the buiz. but lg does a great job too. Thats good news. Ive had mine almost 7 months and havent seen any image retention or burn in yet. Yeah lg makes a great product. the s95b wouldve been my 2nd choice but it was way to expensive and i couldnt fit a 55” on my stand so i thought the a90k was still a great choice. ive always had good luck with sony products over the years
My LG CX is 3 years old now and I’ve used it religiously. It’s got 9677 hours and still looks awesome. As far as I know it has no burn in, and if it does it’s not very noticeable.
@@KRoberts1299 damn thats alot for 3 years haha. But thats good though. I dont think burn is much of a problem with the newer oleds as well. Not sure how many hours on mine. Id have to check
Where can you get a qn95c? Not at Best Buy . When will they be released?
I hava a panasonic plasma 65" tv that I bought in 2013 that still looks fantastic.
I have an OLED (a90j) and an x930e. Not a QLED obviously. That being said, I like my OLED, but the near black handling is not very good compared to an led/LCD/QLED. I prefer gaming on the led compared to the OLED. Yeah the instantaneous response is nice on the OLED, but the black crush can be painful at times. I miss the brightness of the led/LCD. It just punches through. At the end of the day, both of these options are great and you'll enjoy them. I'm hoping to getting a z9 from Sony at some point. Abl is also an issue when it comes to racing and sports. The dimming happens way too frequently and it's obnoxious on my a90j
Why not go for the QD OLED? It resolves most of the issues you have mentioned and it gets quite bright too.
@@suraj4020 the issues are the near black handling is still not resolved and it still doesn't touch the full field brightness of an led/LCD/qled or mini led. I don't really care to have a 5 or 10% window twinkle. Most content is full field
@@SpencersStuff1777 I'm surprised. I just find OLED so far superior to that of even the best QLED's. Gaming looks SOO much better and quicker. Movies are just so much better with the contrast and color saturations. QLED is good but eh, I find OLED the best and I only have the C2. I want the G3 but it would be silly for me to spend that kind of $$ again. I'm going to wait for the G4
@@wombat5252 I'm not saying OLED is bad. It's like comparing apples to oranges. For me personally, I find the near black handling on oleds to be extremely distracting. And the abl kicking in as well. To my eye, even with raised blacks and some blooming, led colors just pop and look better to my eye. I find it looks more natural. Even compared to the qd OLED. And for gaming I've been so underwhelmed with the lack of full field brightness on my oled. For movies OLED is sensational though, can't deny it. I'm just happy we can look at both technologies and find what we like
@@SpencersStuff1777 See I don't have that ''auto dimming'' thing that people complain about. That's on the older OLED's. But yeah, people have preferences. My father personally loves QLED better too and he's had both and we both get the upper tier of the models. Not the top top but near the top. I will say though I really don't like the ''strobing'' effect on OLED's though, that I notice when it does happen and it's bothersome, whereas the blooming on QLEDs is also bothersome to me. No TV is perfect.
Sony Only Sony for 55 years…never been a bad one…now smash that button
What TV do you recommend for a 65” outdoor TV that is very bright and under $1,000?
My LG G1 OLED will get plenty bright. I have to turn the brightness down on it.
The QLEdS I’ve seen in store will also get super black blacks. I’d doubt you would notice a difference at home.
My OLED doesn’t have any jerky movement tajt I notice and I use it for gaming and I’m very sensitive to that kind of stuff.