thank you so much for mentioning which panel has the most beautiful colors. That is the only feature I care about, and no one else would mention this information. QDOLED for me all the way. :)
probably just a camera angle difference. to compare them properly he would need to record each monitor from a typical viewing position and put those two videos side by side. I wouldn't judge colour or brightness difference based on this video
Because they are filmed in dark rooms. Qd oled in a bright room doesn't even look like an oled, it looks somewhat like a good ips.. But in a dark room qd pops .
It might be worth updating this video, regarding the burn-in, as it was proven that the setup at Rtings wasn't correct for the (QD) oleds. Their compensation cycles hadn't been running as expected, which skewed the results of their video. This has been addressed in some of their later videos.
What makes you think that this problem is completely solved, though? Samsung has been notorious for their incompetence to deliver a fully functional product and honestly, this firmware bug is IMO one of the most serious flaws they made as a company. I wouldn't trust them with my wallet.
@@inceptionsd I have no way of knowing if it's completely fixed. But it is absolutely worth mentioning that the issue doesn't stem from an inherent weakness with the technology (as it's no weaker regarding burn-in than LG's w-oled), but rather it was a programming issue.
@@rasmusmathiasjuuljakobsen2980 Well, in order to produce blue light (any blue light), you need highest possible levels of light purity and light intensity, so in order to achieve comparable brightness to the red and green, you either drive them with more voltage or make them bigger than the rest. And since a QD-OLED panel uses only blue pixels, there is technically higher chance of developing burn-in compared to WOLED, but of course, there are other factors which determine its efficiency which are adjustable. I think it is still too early to tell how efficient/resilient these Samsung QD-OLED panels are with regular use. Only time will tell.
@@rasmusmathiasjuuljakobsen2980 "(as it's no weaker regarding burn-in than LG's w-oled" Well, technically it is at a higher risk because it uses blue OLED pixels exclusively, and in order to produce blue light (any light) you need highest possible light purity and intensity, which is, along with using special materials for production either achieved by increasing pixel size or driving more voltage to them, and because of these factors, blue pixels degrade the fastest. So in theory yes, QD-OLED has more risk of developing burn-in. Of course, there are other factors that further improve or worsen its overall reliability, but I guess we will have to wait and see, since QD-OLED is still quite new tech (compared to WOLED, at least).
@@inceptionsd So far the test results from rtings is showing that they are no weaker though. But yes, time is the ultimate test, so let's see what happens.
in the side by side at 3:55 - 4:25 the WO color looks washed out and lackluster while the QD looks so vibrant, that would be a easy choice if favor of the QD.
I feel like on a bright room the qd-oled looks kinda grayish magenta black which almost eliminates one of the crucial advantage of why oled is superior than ips Also the color on woled looks crispier to me as it can handle black well than qd oled
The QD OLED colors looked more vibrant and the WOLED blacks looked better under light but who looks at these displays with their room lights all the way up?
Your examples of the colors around the edges for text was helpful. Holding off on oled because I’m mainly productivity soo I see mostly text and I feel like the weird sub pixel layout would bother me
It's really not noticeable, unless you put your face right up to the screen. That said, OLED still isn't really ready for productivity use. Burn-in is still guaranteed with regular productivity use. It's gotten better, but it's inherent to the technology. Micro LED will finally give OLED a run for it's money, but that's years away.
I think the solution for text clarity is to get a high PPI monitor and use Windows' scaling option. For example, a 27" UHD (3840x2160) monitor with 150% scaling gives you a "logical" workspace of QHD (2560x1440), which is plenty, and for each "logical" pixel you get 2.25 real pixels, which should take care of text rendering issues (regardless of pixel layout). Of course you still get the full 4K for videos and games.
Funnily I don't have any issues with fringing or any other weird edges on the letters. But the main issue I have with my newly bought WOLED is the crappy grey tints - Windows 11 in dark mode looks like crap.
For working at computer the best are IPS monitors with glossy surface. They have bright colors, great viewing angles and can stay on 24/7. And the great thing is that they are cheap.
Not only can qdoled typically almost always reach higher nits in real scenes. But it also doesn't use a white pixel to raise brightness. When you use said white pixel the white mixes with the colors causing them to wash out the brighter the color gets. This is extremely important Figured as you never mentioned this I should fill in any consumers in the comments :)
Thank you for that....I have always thought QD-OLED looked "off" to me for some reason I couldn't identify. Now I think I know what it is. Personal preference thing, I guess!
@MrAcuta73 there's nothing wrong with liking innacurate colors :) In the same way that people can like oversaturated colors people can like them washed out Aka undersaturated. Just most people would who do like inaccurate colors prefer them super vivid and bright and oversaturated, people preferring washed out colors is a rarity so I figured I should let the consumers know :D
Most important thing the lad always forgets to say that in real life situations with the room lightened, LCD monitors are as good or better with actual contrast all while not having issues with burn-in or text rendering.
@Tatiana ES well that's just factually incorrect. My ceiling light in my small room being on barely even effects my aw3423dw, but it actually makes my ips monitor alot worse. To be fair that's likely because of the matte finish spreading the light across the entire screen but still. Only when I open my blinds and it's 2-4 pm is the light enough to make me prefer either my ips monitor, my ips portable monitor, ips laptops, nor my tn 2566k for csgo. You know how phones still look good when it's bright out? And only look bad with direct light on them? Phones are oled. You also know how we never worry about burn out on phones? The things we use so haphazardly in wild temperatures and never pixel refresh nor use "careful screen saving and turn off the apps and use a black phone home screen and use" no we do none of that. These are things people who wish they had oleds say everytime. Yes burn in exists. And yes if you care about getting a monitor you won't need to replace you shouldn't get an oled. But if you want the best looking monitor it's always oled period. Even in bright scenarios. Text fringing is accurate. But Goodluck spotting that in text in media rather than for work focused applications Long story short , raised blacks on an oled still look better than raised blacks on already raised blacks of an ips. Plus it'll have blooming like crazy. Plus worse color pop due to a lack of individually lit pixels
@@trocoplaytv1254 You correctly mention the fact that whether the screen surface is matte or not is also crucial. But my point is correct for equal conditions. Due to OLEDs being so much dimmer than LEDs, they have to remove the polariser layer, and due to that OLED screens are almost a mirror (because they are: under the glass, the actual light-emitting layer is tens of thousands of microscopic shiny metal wires). Way worse than LCD screens. The amount of light OLED screen reflect is way bigger than even the worst leaking LCD screen shows in its “black” colour. THE ONLY solution is to get rid of organic LEDs, which are very non-effective due to the moleculae been so huge that it grabs photons it emitted back due to its size and curves. Using non-organic LEDs will allow to bring the polariser filter back. True micro-LED screens are expected to be debuted in mass production by Apple (it owns most patents and has a couple of the biggest laboratories on this for years), but in the beginning it will be only available in small devices like Apple Watch. It will take forever to get it in monitors. But this alone is not enough. There is still a lot of excessive wirings. Thus, the ultimate solution is going to be a LET matrix display, which will replace diodes with transistors, what will allow to get rid of the whole separate transistor matrix that is now necessary to control the diodes. This will dramatically decrease display reflections. The issue is that LET matrices are many years away even for the tiniest devices.
Clear and consise as usual, glad to see your channel growing, one of the best out there for fluff free information. Looking forward to your review of the 49” Samsung oled monitor shown at CES
Both WOLED and QD-OLED are emissive technologies, which means that their pixels are the source of light and color, but there is a big difference at how the final image is produced. With WOLED it's pretty much straight-farward. You have RGB sub-pixels which create colors and a white subpixel to further help boost overall brightness. QD-OLEDs, on the other hand use only Blue OLED pixels as a backlight, essentially and then use a Quantum Dot Layer with red and green color-based phosphorous which is illuminated by the UV light produced by Blue OLED pixels. The raised blacks are then the result of a QD layer being passively illuminated by an ambient blue light (UV light) which turns on those red and green QD sub-pixels and since the red phosphorous has a much higher light intensity, you get a reddish/purple tint on your screen when it is "off". So in order to mitigate this issue, Samsung needs to find a better way of blocking external light (UV, in particular) from entering the QD layer. My guess is that they can implement a much stronger light filter and aggressive coating, but this would probably affect picture quality, so they are looking for less invasive ways to do it.
5:42 the Alienware QDOLED variants ALSO have antiglare. its actually just unique to this phillips model you have for a smaller than 42" to even have a glossy display
I wish you could put both the Asus PG27AQN and the PG27AQDM head to head, if you happen to get a hold of them that would be very interesting comparison!
WOLED panels use White Oled as backlight & extra layer of color filter RGBW while QD-OLED use Blue Oled as backlit & Quantum Dot Red & Green directly to emit colors.
Fantastic and informative video, with some really practical and well considered consumer advice. So many OLED choices. And none of them within my budget. 😅
I use a QD-OLED every day for work reading documents. The text is completely clear. I have it side by side with my old IPS and the text clarity is identical. This is such an overblown issue. I don't look at my screen with a microscope to see the problem your showing. No burn in yet but it is something I worry about. Been almost a year now. If it does burn in, hopefully it happens within the first 3 years so I can replace it under warranty.
@@Shadow-xi2sv still great currently. I do a burn in check every now and then. Screen rolls through all different colours. No burn in yet. I’ve accidentally left it running on a non moving game screen a couple times this past year. One time I fell asleep and came back 6 hours later. I thought that would have done it. But nope. Still no burn in.
@youtubevanced4900 wonderful! Im prob going to get two lg oled 32inch mfs. Do you happen to know by any case if they have a burn in warranty? Ive read that they do but couldnt find anything like official. Thats something id like to have just in case to reassure me haha. You keep rocking with it!
Excellent presentation! I have long experience with OLED broadcast displays from my work with NBC Olympics. We used the Sony 30” reference monitor throughout the plant as standard. Note it is a $30k+ monitor and accepts broadcast standard input signals, justifying a large part of its price. I also noted no burn-in on these displays, ever. They were often left on inadvertently with a ‘beauty’ shot for 100 hours, sometimes much longer. I do not recall any mechanism I could detect that compensated the image quality at all for this type of abuse. After all, they are reference units. Round the clock use is the norm for productions like the Olympics. Perhaps Sony replaced the panel regularly on these units?
Don't buy WOLED if you don't want colour-shifting or tinting which, I've discovered, is common with WOLED. Light areas, when directly in front, are warm (pink) on left and cool (blue) on right. Off-axis viewing results in uniformly cool. This colour-shifting is most noticeable in B&W content.
Using LG C2 42inch Woled as a work/gaming monitor for almost a year now, spend 8-14hours on it daily and 0 image burn in. Either Im lucky or tech has already advanced enough that its not that much of a problem. I personally think people who get image retention on these newer models either get defected panel or they dont use them enough to move pixels around. Like if you work for 8hours with very static image and then game for 2-6 hours I would think pixels gets to move around and dont remain stuck. But thats just my theory.
Burn in is seriously overstated. If you arent using your monitor like an absolute madman, you will be fine. Use screen saver, dont leave your monitor on over night, and auto hide static elements like task bars and such
From a purely aesthetic standpoint. QD is better, but it definitely has a higher risk of burn in. For watching content or playing games (potential hud burn it though), QD is better. If you are more multi purpose (work and play) WOLED is the better option. Honeslty you are better off buying a cheap LCD monitor for work, and using these for play.
@ if we put more than 8 hours a week on the tv I’d be surprised. It was a luxury purchase. I’d agree if you game or watch a bunch of tv you will be replacing it sooner
I don't know if it's just the camera picking it up but the qd oled looks drastically brighter in the side by side scenes. If I was going off this video I'd think the qd oled blows the woled out of the water.
@MrDutch1e hm, okay. Fair enough. But if i remember correctly, the asus/acer versions were quite a bit brigther. So it's not a particular WOLED problem.
The text visibility just kills it for me, I had the misfortune of having to use a curved VA panel (which has slightly wider pixels) and the texts looked so awful I was about to puke. After about 2 years of being forced to use it I can say that you definitely get used to it, but anyone else that sees your monitor notices the text being off almost instantly. That being said my number one test from now on on any monitor I'm going to buy is black text on a white background and other chrome/essential program tests because I use these daily and anything being off is instantly noticeable.
this is just stupid. Spending this money people obviously gonna use it for gaming and movies. You can buy 200 monitor for text if you want. Stop being a baby.
My plan is to have single purpose monitors. I have 2 monitors right now, but for productivity I almost exclusively use my 34 inch ultrawide IPS. I'm going to replace my second monitor with an OLED and game on it (too many games I play don't support the ultrawide aspect ratio well anyway). So the IPS will be used for text, and the oled for games. I'll have some cross pollination but not all the time, so the drawbacks shouldn't be as big of a deal.
Interesting first time hearing about this issue on curved VA's too, is the current Neo G7 G8 subject to the same? Haven't seen people bring this up and was considering getting one
The "burn in" issue will be avoidable just like it was with CRT monitors. You make sure you use hibernation function on the monitor, and for shorter durations, you use a screen saver. I would still say OLED of any flavor would be a TERRIBLE idea for someone that stares at spreadsheets all day. lol
Pc gamer and user keep their monitor on for a much longer sustained period leading to pixel wear way faster, thus they have to adapt the subpixel by puting a bigger blue subpixel (the weakest one) so they have to remap all the subpixel layout..
Alot of people don't do this but you cna easily get your colors brighter and more punchy on a woled in the Nvidia settings in hdr instead only using the monitors settings. Alot gets greyed out on the monitor settings when you turn hdr on. Just a tip I've used both the qd oled and woled. You can make woledook better just takes tweeting and not expecting editing type colors and accuracy
42C2 glossy woled with custom 21:9 resolution for gaming wins in my opinion. For productivity 16:9 4k >>> all. And who uses brightness settings above 50% anyway? I have 3 meters of floor to ceiling high windows on my right side and it is no issue at all. Disabled all dimming features via service menus. No burn in whatsoever after 1,5 years and 7500 hours of usage.
Just got the KTC G27P6 which uses the same WOLED panel It's much cheaper than the AOC or Acer model here in China Gosh this panel is really good for pvp shooter games
as known red light in the Night phase is glowing more far than other colars. maybe by making the red surface smaller or make Day to Night Red Dimming? also the Darker monitor is better for darker rooms. i have also seen the colordiference while the QD has Red strong and WO has Blue.
Very clear and objective information, thanks a lot I am pondering buying an Oled monitor cause I am completely in love eith my LG C2 TV, you made some very important points to think twice and consider that an oled is not necessarily better for PC usage, really good stuff, thank you for your work!
I personally use IPS (LCD) as my pc monitor for productivity at the desk, and an OLED portable monitor for movies-series-games when on the couch or bed (I only play games with a controller tho)
IF g-sync is a must or you hate coilwhine? Don't get OLED or QD-OLED period. You with have g-sync flickering and most likely fans that are more noisy then your GPU. I tried 3 different OLED and all had this issue. IF you dont care about g-sync or fan/coilwhine noise get an OLED or QD-OLED. IT has the best picture quality.
I am playing on a 4K IPS screen and I hear the coilwhine even though the graphics card is 4090 from Asus Rog, and when I turn on the G-Sync this noise disappears.. but I would like to buy a 4K OLED screen. Do you advise me?
Too bad burn-in seems to be a bigger problem for QD-OLED. I still own an AW3423DWF. As my first OLED display it really is mind blowing how good games look on it. I baby mine by only using it for gaming. I use an IPS for everything else, so fingers crossed mine will last 5 years at least. Conjecture seems to be that Samsung is going through some teething problems with their first foray into OLED. Some monitors are getting burn-in within a month, while others that haven't taken preventative measures for a year have no burn in. It seems right now it's all in panel lottery until Samsung gets the kinks worked out.
What this tells me is two things: I can not use my monitor in a dark room because it hurts my eyes. So QD oled is off the table and WOLED is still bad for reading text. Does this mean I am stuck at IPS?
All i can say is that i have had a 55 inch LG CX Oled tv both on my ps5 and Pc for the last 4 or 5 years and i have no burn in, I do a lot of gaming and watch youtube and anime a lot, I don't usually have a Sports or news logo stuck to my screen or anything and i am more likely to have a video games health bar stuck to my screen but i have no burn in yet
My QD-OLED arrives tomorrow and I’m really curious to see how bad the “black lift” is in my computer room. I have a couple of windows and it’s fairly sunny, but no direct lighting.
@@FJAD94 it’s gorgeous! Haven’t had a chance to try HDR native on it yet, but it looks amazing. Lighting not a problem at all, super bright and rich, blacks deep black
currently deciding what to get, thinking about the LG WOLED dual mode 4K 240Hz / 1080p 480Hz after the alienware qd oled 4K 240Hz was out of stock, also i was mostly worrying about 2 big Windows being right behind where my >6y old monitor rn is standing, and sun shines in like hard for like half of a day!!! have only ever seen qdOLED vs WOLED in weak room lighting, so sunshine would be even more horrible for the qd oled right..?? should i Stick with ordering the LG woled one..?
uh what? slightly better colour on the qd? did you not see the difference in the honey video? and overall its night and day in colour and brightness! did you watch your own video??
I do want to point out that the AW3432DW is over a year old and faster refresh QD-OLED's are already on the way. I personally think they will be the best in the end. Before I end this comment I want to add I've been the proud owner of a AW3432DW for a year now. I also want to point out as amazing of a 4k monitor the X27 was I was willing to give up 4k for 2k with such a massive increase to contrast and colors (and it was worth it.) Plus you can run all these amazing colors without DSC while getting 175 Hz refresh rate on the QD OLED in comparison to the older 4k monitors. Thankfully though 4k won't require DSC for high refresh rates as of the next gen of graphics cards will finally implement DisplayPort 2. Which has far more bandwidth than even HDMI 2.1
@@Charly_dvorakIt was HDMI 2.1 as my comment stated. Displayport 2 hasn’t made it to GPUs even yet and HDMI 2.1 has to because 4k 240 Hz isn’t possible on Displayport 1.4a
I currently have a MSI Prestige 34 inch monitor with 5120*2160@60hz and 8+2 Bits of color. I'd be heavily interested in a 38" or 40" inch monitor with the same resolution, but OLED and ideally a nice brightness.
eLEAP OLED or MiniLED time will tell, but 1000 zones MiniLED already looking strong and that could survive a 10 years life cycle. High-end LCDs can even survive 15 to 20 years with minimal panel degradation, for OLED you should be happy if it could tick the 5 year life cycle.
mini led isn't that great as they cost the same as OLED pretty much. Micro led is what will likely do OLED in, that however is long away and we could get major improvements to OLEDs by then. Or something new.
@@lilpain1997I actually agree with @NiscoRacing. I have an iPad 12’9 with Mini-LED - it’s a FANTASTIC screen and the blacks are pretty darn close to OLED level. Also, I’m super glad that I don’t need to worry about burn-in… since I want to keep that iPad for many years - I use it often for displaying Music Notation (static images). Finally, it can hit 1600 nits for HDR - amazing brightness (no worries outside). Now I would love to have that type of screen as a PC monitor…
This video made me REALIZE… I don’t want OLED as my MONITOR 😅😅 ??? Can anyone recommend a great Mini-LED around 32 inches (NO ultrawide, NO curved screen) ???
@@RabianskiT the peak brightness is not the only thing HDR is about. A lot of people fall for this and think it's better. It's not. Nothing is really wrong with mini led, it just costs a lot and tooooo close to OLED while the only true benefits are higher nits and no burn in. The higher nits is a none issue for me and many as I don't have my set-up in the light. Burn in is the largest issue as it's inevitable. At the end of the day mini led is not really the play, micro led will be if and when it comes out to normal consumers. I used mini led and while I really liked the brightness, HDR is better on OLED overall. No blooming is hard scenes which is where HDR truly shines. I have no issues with mini led btw, if people want to buy it due to using their monitors a lot then do it. It's still a great experience
@@RabianskiT Samsungs G7 NEO. G8 iirc sucks ass. Problem is they are stupid expensive, come with all the normal Led issues and Samsungs awful quality control. If you do get lucky however it's a great monitor
Ill be very frank. I do not notice the difference, even in productivity work. I have the LG Oled and a omen x25f side by side and the aforementioned is an improvement in every single way imaginable.
I also have the LG OLED and have not been bothered by the text at all. I suppose I can SEE the text fringing...but to say it is a reason not to buy the monitor? No way. This monitor is amazing in pretty much every way.
I bought a Lg c2, and besides the perfect blacks, I’m not really in love with it like I thought I would be. Even my $350 USD vizio M series 2019 QD has a better color gamut and higher color volume. The biggest thing about oled I do not like is the sample and hold. It keeps each frame on screen for 40% longer than my old Vizio that uses a traditional VA panel, making everything appear like it’s stuttering. This is especially noticeable below 60hz. I’m actually going to return it and either get a TCL 6 2022 model or a Samsung QN90C
The only reason I will never buy an oled TV or monitor is the risk of burn in. Until the day comes that there is 0% chance of burn in from Huds in games and static things on the screen unfortunately many people will not even entertain the idea of these monitors. They are too expensive to deal with that type of inconvenience.
I have qd oled from AW and its fantastic. I am Hardware freak and change my Monitors very often. With this oled Display i will stay at least 1 or maybe 2 years more as improvements will take some time now and the 300 to 600 Dollar Range still is far off. If you Upgrade you need an oled and this glosy tint is not an issue if you dont have a light source behind you thats Not switchable.
@@micnolmadtube if you have the Sun behind you i mean switchable in a way that you can cover the window easily. If thats so like in my case you can use for work at day and gaming of course
@@micnolmadtube if you have enough sun behind you where you cant see the screen, its going to be hard to play a game, regardless of which panel you have.
@@micnolmadtube If you have the sun behind you the lackluster brightness of WOLED will arguably make a bigger difference than anything, and that gets more and more true with each subsequent generation of QD. WOLED is fully developed to the point it won't see major advancements anymore, QD still has room to grow and the 3rd gen panels absolutely demolish WOLED for brightness. Rtings puts the C3 at the level of the S95B, which is pathetic given that it's now over 2 years old. The new Samsung breaks 1100cd/m in many conditions where the newest and best WOLEDs barely break 800 under any APL.
FYI: You don't want the colour range to exceed the colour space. Anything over 100% SRGB is wrong. The monitor should have the capability to clamp the output to the chosen colour space. Also QD-OLED and WOLED should be the same in this regard, the former only bests the latter in colour volume tests which check the colour range relative to brightness changes.
@@ckngmad1357 This channel author didn't want me recommending other channels and deleted my response lol. Anyway I would wait for the 4k (glossy) OLED monitors coming out in the next few months.
But why is sRGB still a thing? If you're going to measure the coverage of a wide-gamut monitor, it should be P3 and Adobe RGB. The relic sRGB just needs to die.
@@studiog2682 Because (virtually) all non-HDR content is authored for SRGB and would look horrible and way over saturated if your monitor runs wider than the standard spec.
@@djayjp Then use the sRGB setting on your monitor. Monitors can be set to different color spaces including sRGB. It would be stupid to have a crippled OLED that can only do sRGB. When you spec an OLED it's a given that it can show more colors than sRGB. And saying some number over 100% sRGB makes no sense. I want to know how much of P3 it can do.
Are you going to check out the AOC Gaming 25G3ZM/BK, its a 240hz VA really well priced with good contrast numbers and would love to see your opinion on it, keep up the good work :))
At 4:12 it can be seen the big difference if you look closely at the honey on the table You can see every little detail at WOLED but due to much brightness and oversaturated colors the little detail just get lost on QD-Led... Thats the point in Competitve Gaming if u have very good eyes (like me) i want to better see details if some 1 is lurking arround at FPS games. There is a reason why SRGB over a given % is bad . The QD led at 4:12 in my opinion shows UNREAL colors what was not intended to be there.
First of all, the "detail loss" is due to a slight overexposure of the camera sensor this was recorded with, and then this was compressed into a Rec709 video. Second, even if the color reproduction was "unrealistic" in your opinion, it all just comes down to color management. The QD-OLED is able to produce the same color range as the W-OLED, and also BEYOND that. So if you don't like that, just dial it down
I will let the oled monitor market flesh out more and get cheaper before I make the jump. But for now i love my LG C2. But I mostly use it for movies, shows, and youtube. I need to try some more gaming on it. But since I mostly play competitive games, my LG ultragear 1440p 165hz monitor meets my needs for now
Gaming on an OLED is game changing. Not all games have proper HDR implementation, though. Jedi Survivor is an example of a recent game with good HDR (even though the game still stutters a good bit). Doom Eternal is also really good. The most mind-blowingly beautiful game on OLED I've played so though is "Ori and the Will of the Wisps." My jaw literally dropped the first time I played it on my OLED monitor after originally playing the game on my LG Ultragear 27" 1440p 165hz monitor (I'm guessing it's the same monitor as yours). It's a night and day difference.
@@zues287 Hell yeah! I love ori and I can only imagine its great on oled! I beat the first one but haven't completed the second game, so I will definitely put it up on the oled. I bet those colors pop with the dark background!
Funny how flat panels have these issues of fringing when a high quality or high end CRT wouldn't really until it got some life on it and then would just need an adjustment
As a horror game/film/series guy I have been waiting for a long time to see deep blacks again as in the days of CRT so I m saving for any affordable OLED now (ultrawide). Cant wait to revisit Alien Isolation in a monitor that can display true black or rewatching some of my favorite horror films. Althought my cut off price for a monitor was 500€ tops and giving 1000 for a monitor when I can use them on upgrades on my car is A LOT... I just cant stand grey "blacks" anymore.
all those comparissons to boil down essentialy to monitor size, might as well just say that in the begining since there are so few solutions out there...
Ah I thought the 34 inch LG WOLED PANEL would be coming in Q1? Is it only starting production by then? And if so, when do you think this panel will hit the market?
kinda dumb when w-oled is with a white pixel on top of the rgb and is standard for consumer products , qd oled there is only ultra wide or tv's on the market atm so if you want a 16x9 aspect you have no choice atm but to buy w-oled
Why would be the fringing any better on LCD vs WOLED? It has the same order of subpixels with the exception of extra white that doesn't add to fringing (theoretically it makes it less visible, because red and green subpixels are thinner).
Yeah. Also blacks remain black when sunlight is in the room with WOLED. While it turns gray when any sunlight hits a QDOLED screen. QD is nicer looking in perfectly dark conditions. But that's not realistic all the time.
Update: I've added some of the new QD-OLED and WOLED releases to the list in the description.
thank you so much for mentioning which panel has the most beautiful colors. That is the only feature I care about, and no one else would mention this information. QDOLED for me all the way. :)
Almost every one of the side-by-sides make the QD-OLED panel on the left look WAY better, at least on my iPhone’s display.
probably just a camera angle difference. to compare them properly he would need to record each monitor from a typical viewing position and put those two videos side by side. I wouldn't judge colour or brightness difference based on this video
That’s because it is better it’s combining QLED colors and brightness with OLEDS black levels and clarity
It’s is better
Because they are filmed in dark rooms.
Qd oled in a bright room doesn't even look like an oled, it looks somewhat like a good ips..
But in a dark room qd pops .
@@MsFearco lmao idk what qd OLED you got but you need to return that asap 💯
It might be worth updating this video, regarding the burn-in, as it was proven that the setup at Rtings wasn't correct for the (QD) oleds. Their compensation cycles hadn't been running as expected, which skewed the results of their video. This has been addressed in some of their later videos.
What makes you think that this problem is completely solved, though? Samsung has been notorious for their incompetence to deliver a fully functional product and honestly, this firmware bug is IMO one of the most serious flaws they made as a company. I wouldn't trust them with my wallet.
@@inceptionsd I have no way of knowing if it's completely fixed. But it is absolutely worth mentioning that the issue doesn't stem from an inherent weakness with the technology (as it's no weaker regarding burn-in than LG's w-oled), but rather it was a programming issue.
@@rasmusmathiasjuuljakobsen2980 Well, in order to produce blue light (any blue light), you need highest possible levels of light purity and light intensity, so in order to achieve comparable brightness to the red and green, you either drive them with more voltage or make them bigger than the rest. And since a QD-OLED panel uses only blue pixels, there is technically higher chance of developing burn-in compared to WOLED, but of course, there are other factors which determine its efficiency which are adjustable. I think it is still too early to tell how efficient/resilient these Samsung QD-OLED panels are with regular use. Only time will tell.
@@rasmusmathiasjuuljakobsen2980 "(as it's no weaker regarding burn-in than LG's w-oled" Well, technically it is at a higher risk because it uses blue OLED pixels exclusively, and in order to produce blue light (any light) you need highest possible light purity and intensity, which is, along with using special materials for production either achieved by increasing pixel size or driving more voltage to them, and because of these factors, blue pixels degrade the fastest. So in theory yes, QD-OLED has more risk of developing burn-in. Of course, there are other factors that further improve or worsen its overall reliability, but I guess we will have to wait and see, since QD-OLED is still quite new tech (compared to WOLED, at least).
@@inceptionsd So far the test results from rtings is showing that they are no weaker though. But yes, time is the ultimate test, so let's see what happens.
in the side by side at 3:55 - 4:25 the WO color looks washed out and lackluster while the QD looks so vibrant, that would be a easy choice if favor of the QD.
I feel like on a bright room the qd-oled looks kinda grayish magenta black which almost eliminates one of the crucial advantage of why oled is superior than ips
Also the color on woled looks crispier to me as it can handle black well than qd oled
The QD OLED colors looked more vibrant and the WOLED blacks looked better under light but who looks at these displays with their room lights all the way up?
Me.
And every streamer
Me.
Normal people? My room gets pretty bright and that’s with my blinds all the way down AND the sun on the opposite side of the house
Your examples of the colors around the edges for text was helpful. Holding off on oled because I’m mainly productivity soo I see mostly text and I feel like the weird sub pixel layout would bother me
JOLED is your choice, such as LG 27 or 32 EP950, Philips 27E1N8900
It's really not noticeable, unless you put your face right up to the screen. That said, OLED still isn't really ready for productivity use. Burn-in is still guaranteed with regular productivity use. It's gotten better, but it's inherent to the technology. Micro LED will finally give OLED a run for it's money, but that's years away.
I think the solution for text clarity is to get a high PPI monitor and use Windows' scaling option. For example, a 27" UHD (3840x2160) monitor with 150% scaling gives you a "logical" workspace of QHD (2560x1440), which is plenty, and for each "logical" pixel you get 2.25 real pixels, which should take care of text rendering issues (regardless of pixel layout). Of course you still get the full 4K for videos and games.
Funnily I don't have any issues with fringing or any other weird edges on the letters.
But the main issue I have with my newly bought WOLED is the crappy grey tints - Windows 11 in dark mode looks like crap.
For working at computer the best are IPS monitors with glossy surface.
They have bright colors, great viewing angles and can stay on 24/7.
And the great thing is that they are cheap.
The WOLED looks worse to me with the room lit.
Not only can qdoled typically almost always reach higher nits in real scenes. But it also doesn't use a white pixel to raise brightness. When you use said white pixel the white mixes with the colors causing them to wash out the brighter the color gets.
This is extremely important
Figured as you never mentioned this I should fill in any consumers in the comments :)
Thank you for that....I have always thought QD-OLED looked "off" to me for some reason I couldn't identify. Now I think I know what it is. Personal preference thing, I guess!
@MrAcuta73 there's nothing wrong with liking innacurate colors :)
In the same way that people can like oversaturated colors people can like them washed out Aka undersaturated.
Just most people would who do like inaccurate colors prefer them super vivid and bright and oversaturated, people preferring washed out colors is a rarity so I figured I should let the consumers know :D
Most important thing the lad always forgets to say that in real life situations with the room lightened, LCD monitors are as good or better with actual contrast all while not having issues with burn-in or text rendering.
@Tatiana ES well that's just factually incorrect. My ceiling light in my small room being on barely even effects my aw3423dw, but it actually makes my ips monitor alot worse. To be fair that's likely because of the matte finish spreading the light across the entire screen but still. Only when I open my blinds and it's 2-4 pm is the light enough to make me prefer either my ips monitor, my ips portable monitor, ips laptops, nor my tn 2566k for csgo.
You know how phones still look good when it's bright out? And only look bad with direct light on them? Phones are oled.
You also know how we never worry about burn out on phones? The things we use so haphazardly in wild temperatures and never pixel refresh nor use "careful screen saving and turn off the apps and use a black phone home screen and use" no we do none of that.
These are things people who wish they had oleds say everytime.
Yes burn in exists. And yes if you care about getting a monitor you won't need to replace you shouldn't get an oled. But if you want the best looking monitor it's always oled period. Even in bright scenarios.
Text fringing is accurate. But Goodluck spotting that in text in media rather than for work focused applications
Long story short , raised blacks on an oled still look better than raised blacks on already raised blacks of an ips. Plus it'll have blooming like crazy. Plus worse color pop due to a lack of individually lit pixels
@@trocoplaytv1254 You correctly mention the fact that whether the screen surface is matte or not is also crucial. But my point is correct for equal conditions. Due to OLEDs being so much dimmer than LEDs, they have to remove the polariser layer, and due to that OLED screens are almost a mirror (because they are: under the glass, the actual light-emitting layer is tens of thousands of microscopic shiny metal wires). Way worse than LCD screens. The amount of light OLED screen reflect is way bigger than even the worst leaking LCD screen shows in its “black” colour.
THE ONLY solution is to get rid of organic LEDs, which are very non-effective due to the moleculae been so huge that it grabs photons it emitted back due to its size and curves. Using non-organic LEDs will allow to bring the polariser filter back.
True micro-LED screens are expected to be debuted in mass production by Apple (it owns most patents and has a couple of the biggest laboratories on this for years), but in the beginning it will be only available in small devices like Apple Watch. It will take forever to get it in monitors.
But this alone is not enough. There is still a lot of excessive wirings. Thus, the ultimate solution is going to be a LET matrix display, which will replace diodes with transistors, what will allow to get rid of the whole separate transistor matrix that is now necessary to control the diodes. This will dramatically decrease display reflections. The issue is that LET matrices are many years away even for the tiniest devices.
Clear and consise as usual, glad to see your channel growing, one of the best out there for fluff free information. Looking forward to your review of the 49” Samsung oled monitor shown at CES
30 seconds in I already know I want a QOLED based off the color pop
The false color pop. What sort of work do you do that this is not a problem?
Both WOLED and QD-OLED are emissive technologies, which means that their pixels are the source of light and color, but there is a big difference at how the final image is produced. With WOLED it's pretty much straight-farward. You have RGB sub-pixels which create colors and a white subpixel to further help boost overall brightness. QD-OLEDs, on the other hand use only Blue OLED pixels as a backlight, essentially and then use a Quantum Dot Layer with red and green color-based phosphorous which is illuminated by the UV light produced by Blue OLED pixels. The raised blacks are then the result of a QD layer being passively illuminated by an ambient blue light (UV light) which turns on those red and green QD sub-pixels and since the red phosphorous has a much higher light intensity, you get a reddish/purple tint on your screen when it is "off". So in order to mitigate this issue, Samsung needs to find a better way of blocking external light (UV, in particular) from entering the QD layer. My guess is that they can implement a much stronger light filter and aggressive coating, but this would probably affect picture quality, so they are looking for less invasive ways to do it.
thank you for the great explanation, that probably explains why the matte coating of the LG is so extreme
5:42 the Alienware QDOLED variants ALSO have antiglare. its actually just unique to this phillips model you have for a smaller than 42" to even have a glossy display
thats not glossy either
Phillips states anti-glare coating, therefore its matt
you can't have both, it's one or the other
@@pepelaugh4091Wrong, semi-gloss exists.
I wish you could put both the Asus PG27AQN and the PG27AQDM head to head, if you happen to get a hold of them that would be very interesting comparison!
WOLED panels use White Oled as backlight & extra layer of color filter RGBW while QD-OLED use Blue Oled as backlit & Quantum Dot Red & Green directly to emit colors.
Fantastic and informative video, with some really practical and well considered consumer advice.
So many OLED choices.
And none of them within my budget. 😅
theres definitely good deals out there on ebay and amazon, I scored my LG WOLED on amazon used like new for 650!
I use a QD-OLED every day for work reading documents. The text is completely clear. I have it side by side with my old IPS and the text clarity is identical.
This is such an overblown issue. I don't look at my screen with a microscope to see the problem your showing.
No burn in yet but it is something I worry about. Been almost a year now.
If it does burn in, hopefully it happens within the first 3 years so I can replace it under warranty.
Just force it to burn in 2 years and 11 months in. You just won the game.
how is it going so far?
@@Shadow-xi2sv still great currently. I do a burn in check every now and then. Screen rolls through all different colours.
No burn in yet.
I’ve accidentally left it running on a non moving game screen a couple times this past year. One time I fell asleep and came back 6 hours later.
I thought that would have done it. But nope. Still no burn in.
@youtubevanced4900 wonderful! Im prob going to get two lg oled 32inch mfs. Do you happen to know by any case if they have a burn in warranty? Ive read that they do but couldnt find anything like official. Thats something id like to have just in case to reassure me haha. You keep rocking with it!
Excellent presentation! I have long experience with OLED broadcast displays from my work with NBC Olympics. We used the Sony 30” reference monitor throughout the plant as standard. Note it is a $30k+ monitor and accepts broadcast standard input signals, justifying a large part of its price.
I also noted no burn-in on these displays, ever. They were often left on inadvertently with a ‘beauty’ shot for 100 hours, sometimes much longer. I do not recall any mechanism I could detect that compensated the image quality at all for this type of abuse. After all, they are reference units. Round the clock use is the norm for productions like the Olympics. Perhaps Sony replaced the panel regularly on these units?
Don't buy WOLED if you don't want colour-shifting or tinting which, I've discovered, is common with WOLED. Light areas, when directly in front, are warm (pink) on left and cool (blue) on right. Off-axis viewing results in uniformly cool. This colour-shifting is most noticeable in B&W content.
i’d rather have this than magenta blacks with the lights on
@@JoeyGageytExactly!
Using LG C2 42inch Woled as a work/gaming monitor for almost a year now, spend 8-14hours on it daily and 0 image burn in. Either Im lucky or tech has already advanced enough that its not that much of a problem. I personally think people who get image retention on these newer models either get defected panel or they dont use them enough to move pixels around. Like if you work for 8hours with very static image and then game for 2-6 hours I would think pixels gets to move around and dont remain stuck. But thats just my theory.
Burn in is seriously overstated. If you arent using your monitor like an absolute madman, you will be fine. Use screen saver, dont leave your monitor on over night, and auto hide static elements like task bars and such
@@LouSaydusfacts. I feel like people that get burn in either leave their monitor on 24/7 or turn off OLED care features.
what about now, another year later?
From a purely aesthetic standpoint. QD is better, but it definitely has a higher risk of burn in. For watching content or playing games (potential hud burn it though), QD is better. If you are more multi purpose (work and play) WOLED is the better option. Honeslty you are better off buying a cheap LCD monitor for work, and using these for play.
Qd oled you get faster burn-in than woled
@ if we put more than 8 hours a week on the tv I’d be surprised. It was a luxury purchase. I’d agree if you game or watch a bunch of tv you will be replacing it sooner
I don't know if it's just the camera picking it up but the qd oled looks drastically brighter in the side by side scenes. If I was going off this video I'd think the qd oled blows the woled out of the water.
Camera exposure. And besides that, no one has the brightness setting above 50% anyway...
@@-XTC- they most definitely have the brightness setting above 50% on an oled. The WOLED from LG needs 100% brightness just to be close to usable.
@@MrDutch1e complete nonsense. I have a C2 and 50% brightness is more than enough, actually im using it on 35-40%
@-XTC- I'm talking about these specific monitors. Not TVs. The lg oled monitor is extremely dim to the point it's hardly usable. Especially in SDR.
@MrDutch1e hm, okay. Fair enough. But if i remember correctly, the asus/acer versions were quite a bit brigther. So it's not a particular WOLED problem.
I using WRGB OLED as a PC monitor for more than two years by now, I no encounter any sign of image degradation.
The text visibility just kills it for me, I had the misfortune of having to use a curved VA panel (which has slightly wider pixels) and the texts looked so awful I was about to puke. After about 2 years of being forced to use it I can say that you definitely get used to it, but anyone else that sees your monitor notices the text being off almost instantly. That being said my number one test from now on on any monitor I'm going to buy is black text on a white background and other chrome/essential program tests because I use these daily and anything being off is instantly noticeable.
this is just stupid. Spending this money people obviously gonna use it for gaming and movies. You can buy 200 monitor for text if you want. Stop being a baby.
My plan is to have single purpose monitors. I have 2 monitors right now, but for productivity I almost exclusively use my 34 inch ultrawide IPS. I'm going to replace my second monitor with an OLED and game on it (too many games I play don't support the ultrawide aspect ratio well anyway). So the IPS will be used for text, and the oled for games. I'll have some cross pollination but not all the time, so the drawbacks shouldn't be as big of a deal.
Interesting first time hearing about this issue on curved VA's too, is the current Neo G7 G8 subject to the same? Haven't seen people bring this up and was considering getting one
I have no idea what monitor you have but what you're describing has nothing to do with IPS vs VA.
@@jonathanz9889 Because it's not a thing. "Pixel size" has literally nothing to do with VA or IPS lmao
3:58 the colors on the lef QD looks so MUCH better...
As someone who also plays during the day and likes horror games (for which black colors are important), the W-OLED is an absolute must!
The "burn in" issue will be avoidable just like it was with CRT monitors. You make sure you use hibernation function on the monitor, and for shorter durations, you use a screen saver. I would still say OLED of any flavor would be a TERRIBLE idea for someone that stares at spreadsheets all day. lol
I'd avoid a screensaver and just use a motion wallpaper.
I would just enable "turn of the display" setting in windows 10 after 10 minutes.
@@landonp629 what about the programs on your desktop or the taskbar if you dont have it disappearing like every normal person lmao.
@@spectrent I guess you just have to have it auto-hide. It's not that big of a deal, and it can save burn-in more-so than even a screensaver would.
Is there a particular reason why neither OLED types uses the traditional RGB subpixel layout?
Pc gamer and user keep their monitor on for a much longer sustained period leading to pixel wear way faster, thus they have to adapt the subpixel by puting a bigger blue subpixel (the weakest one) so they have to remap all the subpixel layout..
luminance overshoot is a huge let down with WOLED displays.
Great video! Excited for the new OLED monitors coming in 2024. Doing a deep dive on learning the differences now
dude your avatar is crazy i thought i had a line of hair stucked to my monitor haha
thanks for the link in description, really helpful !
Alot of people don't do this but you cna easily get your colors brighter and more punchy on a woled in the Nvidia settings in hdr instead only using the monitors settings. Alot gets greyed out on the monitor settings when you turn hdr on. Just a tip I've used both the qd oled and woled. You can make woledook better just takes tweeting and not expecting editing type colors and accuracy
How can I do that ?
If you have am nvidia gpu just go into the nvidia display settings and find it. Can control brightness, contrast, saturation and I think gamma or hue
Thank you, I actually didn't know that
42C2 glossy woled with custom 21:9 resolution for gaming wins in my opinion. For productivity 16:9 4k >>> all. And who uses brightness settings above 50% anyway? I have 3 meters of floor to ceiling high windows on my right side and it is no issue at all. Disabled all dimming features via service menus. No burn in whatsoever after 1,5 years and 7500 hours of usage.
Which should you go for? Neither. Go for miniLED.
Miniled is shit...
@@pedrowilson8344 OLED is…
I have WOLED TV and notice a green-blueish tint especially on whites, which is annoying. I see this in your comaprison as well.
3:55 I dont know man. Im watching on an OLED android phone and in both dark room and light room, QD-OLED just looks NOTICEABLY better.
Ich habe jetzt seit 1 Woche den ROG PG42UQ. Die Farben und der Schwarzwert sind echt der Hammer. Endlich perfektes Schwarz ohne Glow und Bleeding.
Just got the KTC G27P6 which uses the same WOLED panel
It's much cheaper than the AOC or Acer model here in China
Gosh this panel is really good for pvp shooter games
Can you ship one for me internationally?
I would buy one but I rly want 240hz or 4k, the 4k ktc is too small for my taste
@@agentnukaz1715 I’ve switched to lg c3 last month. 4k sure is really great.
4:23 the qd oled panel looks like an IPS panel in this shot. What a bummer... I wanted to buy samsung odyssey G9 OLED monitor.
Hahaha nice German Easter Egg in the End. Man sieht sich✌️
as known red light in the Night phase is glowing more far than other colars. maybe by making the red surface smaller or make Day to Night Red Dimming? also the Darker monitor is better for darker rooms. i have also seen the colordiference while the QD has Red strong and WO has Blue.
Very clear and objective information, thanks a lot I am pondering buying an Oled monitor cause I am completely in love eith my LG C2 TV, you made some very important points to think twice and consider that an oled is not necessarily better for PC usage, really good stuff, thank you for your work!
I personally use IPS (LCD) as my pc monitor for productivity at the desk, and an OLED portable monitor for movies-series-games when on the couch or bed (I only play games with a controller tho)
What a great informational video! Thank you for making this.
well the decision is easy need 21:9 (34-35") ^^
IF g-sync is a must or you hate coilwhine? Don't get OLED or QD-OLED period. You with have g-sync flickering and most likely fans that are more noisy then your GPU. I tried 3 different OLED and all had this issue.
IF you dont care about g-sync or fan/coilwhine noise get an OLED or QD-OLED. IT has the best picture quality.
The samsung oleg g8 has no fan
I am playing on a 4K IPS screen and I hear the coilwhine even though the graphics card is 4090 from Asus Rog, and when I turn on the G-Sync this noise disappears.. but I would like to buy a 4K OLED screen. Do you advise me?
than you for mentioning the text issues. personally very important for me and all other videos dont talk about it
Comparing motion clarity between 2 different refreshrates is just extremely scuffed
QD has much better colors than regular WOLED (1st and 2nd gen). 3rd gen WOLED (META/MLA) is better than the first ones but QD-OLED still is better
Too bad burn-in seems to be a bigger problem for QD-OLED. I still own an AW3423DWF. As my first OLED display it really is mind blowing how good games look on it. I baby mine by only using it for gaming. I use an IPS for everything else, so fingers crossed mine will last 5 years at least. Conjecture seems to be that Samsung is going through some teething problems with their first foray into OLED. Some monitors are getting burn-in within a month, while others that haven't taken preventative measures for a year have no burn in. It seems right now it's all in panel lottery until Samsung gets the kinks worked out.
What this tells me is two things: I can not use my monitor in a dark room because it hurts my eyes. So QD oled is off the table and WOLED is still bad for reading text. Does this mean I am stuck at IPS?
WHY IS IT WHEN I BUY SOMETHING, RUclips THROWS VIDEOS AT ME TELLING ME NOT TO BUY THE THING I JUST BOUGHT ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lol
There will always be people saying they hate something that you actually like or simply don't care
@@Charly_dvorak 🙃
me too!!! stupid youtube
Same here
All i can say is that i have had a 55 inch LG CX Oled tv both on my ps5 and Pc for the last 4 or 5 years and i have no burn in, I do a lot of gaming and watch youtube and anime a lot, I don't usually have a Sports or news logo stuck to my screen or anything and i am more likely to have a video games health bar stuck to my screen but i have no burn in yet
My QD-OLED arrives tomorrow and I’m really curious to see how bad the “black lift” is in my computer room. I have a couple of windows and it’s fairly sunny, but no direct lighting.
Tell us your experience:)
@@FJAD94 it’s gorgeous! Haven’t had a chance to try HDR native on it yet, but it looks amazing. Lighting not a problem at all, super bright and rich, blacks deep black
@@binary132 great, I look forward to the arrival of the aw2725df and that it does not disappoint me
@@binary132 What is the monitor model you bought? I want to buy the msi 271qrx or the aw2725df but I like the dell better
@@FJAD94 I got the AW3225QF
Sehr gut erklärt. Danke für das Video.
Its pretty noticeable that the images in the woled is alot darker than the qdoled.
And whites turns into blue tints.
Very informative. Thank you
currently deciding what to get, thinking about the LG WOLED dual mode 4K 240Hz / 1080p 480Hz
after the alienware qd oled 4K 240Hz was out of stock, also i was mostly worrying about 2 big Windows being right behind where my >6y old monitor rn is standing, and sun shines in like hard for like half of a day!!!
have only ever seen qdOLED vs WOLED in weak room lighting, so sunshine would be even more horrible for the qd oled right..??
should i Stick with ordering the LG woled one..?
uh what? slightly better colour on the qd? did you not see the difference in the honey video? and overall its night and day in colour and brightness! did you watch your own video??
Techless, would you suggest either the Philips Evnia or Samsung Ody G8?
I do want to point out that the AW3432DW is over a year old and faster refresh QD-OLED's are already on the way. I personally think they will be the best in the end.
Before I end this comment I want to add I've been the proud owner of a AW3432DW for a year now. I also want to point out as amazing of a 4k monitor the X27 was I was willing to give up 4k for 2k with such a massive increase to contrast and colors (and it was worth it.) Plus you can run all these amazing colors without DSC while getting 175 Hz refresh rate on the QD OLED in comparison to the older 4k monitors.
Thankfully though 4k won't require DSC for high refresh rates as of the next gen of graphics cards will finally implement DisplayPort 2. Which has far more bandwidth than even HDMI 2.1
The newest 4k 240hz oleds don't have DP 2.1
@@Charly_dvorakIt was HDMI 2.1 as my comment stated. Displayport 2 hasn’t made it to GPUs even yet and HDMI 2.1 has to because 4k 240 Hz isn’t possible on Displayport 1.4a
@@AsreiMurasame
AMD 7000 series include DP 2.1 though not the full bandwidth
I currently have a MSI Prestige 34 inch monitor with 5120*2160@60hz and 8+2 Bits of color. I'd be heavily interested in a 38" or 40" inch monitor with the same resolution, but OLED and ideally a nice brightness.
40-45" for me but at that resolution and 120hz or higher. I use my LG CX 48" at 3840x1646 ultrawide and it's beautiful. I'm just missing the curve.
60hz 💀
Was hoping oled monitor would be e perfect monitor for photo and video editing... what monitor do you recommend?
eLEAP OLED or MiniLED time will tell, but 1000 zones MiniLED already looking strong and that could survive a 10 years life cycle.
High-end LCDs can even survive 15 to 20 years with minimal panel degradation, for OLED you should be happy if it could tick the 5 year life cycle.
mini led isn't that great as they cost the same as OLED pretty much. Micro led is what will likely do OLED in, that however is long away and we could get major improvements to OLEDs by then. Or something new.
@@lilpain1997I actually agree with @NiscoRacing. I have an iPad 12’9 with Mini-LED - it’s a FANTASTIC screen and the blacks are pretty darn close to OLED level.
Also, I’m super glad that I don’t need to worry about burn-in… since I want to keep that iPad for many years - I use it often for displaying Music Notation (static images). Finally, it can hit 1600 nits for HDR - amazing brightness (no worries outside).
Now I would love to have that type of screen as a PC monitor…
This video made me REALIZE… I don’t want OLED as my MONITOR 😅😅
???
Can anyone recommend a great Mini-LED around 32 inches (NO ultrawide, NO curved screen)
???
@@RabianskiT the peak brightness is not the only thing HDR is about. A lot of people fall for this and think it's better. It's not. Nothing is really wrong with mini led, it just costs a lot and tooooo close to OLED while the only true benefits are higher nits and no burn in. The higher nits is a none issue for me and many as I don't have my set-up in the light. Burn in is the largest issue as it's inevitable. At the end of the day mini led is not really the play, micro led will be if and when it comes out to normal consumers. I used mini led and while I really liked the brightness, HDR is better on OLED overall. No blooming is hard scenes which is where HDR truly shines. I have no issues with mini led btw, if people want to buy it due to using their monitors a lot then do it. It's still a great experience
@@RabianskiT Samsungs G7 NEO. G8 iirc sucks ass. Problem is they are stupid expensive, come with all the normal Led issues and Samsungs awful quality control. If you do get lucky however it's a great monitor
Which monitor is better between
LG 34GS95QE and alienware AW3423DWF? Consider that I have a normal use, I edit videos, play games, watch movies etc.
Ill be very frank. I do not notice the difference, even in productivity work. I have the LG Oled and a omen x25f side by side and the aforementioned is an improvement in every single way imaginable.
I also have the LG OLED and have not been bothered by the text at all. I suppose I can SEE the text fringing...but to say it is a reason not to buy the monitor? No way. This monitor is amazing in pretty much every way.
I bought a Lg c2, and besides the perfect blacks, I’m not really in love with it like I thought I would be. Even my $350 USD vizio M series 2019 QD has a better color gamut and higher color volume. The biggest thing about oled I do not like is the sample and hold. It keeps each frame on screen for 40% longer than my old Vizio that uses a traditional VA panel, making everything appear like it’s stuttering. This is especially noticeable below 60hz. I’m actually going to return it and either get a TCL 6 2022 model or a Samsung QN90C
Did you tried the options that makes the motion smooth?
i bet you didn't configure all the settings correctly. if you don't care about going through the settings, do not get OLED.
I thought OLED had instantaneous pixel response
The only reason I will never buy an oled TV or monitor is the risk of burn in. Until the day comes that there is 0% chance of burn in from Huds in games and static things on the screen unfortunately many people will not even entertain the idea of these monitors. They are too expensive to deal with that type of inconvenience.
I have qd oled from AW and its fantastic. I am Hardware freak and change my Monitors very often. With this oled Display i will stay at least 1 or maybe 2 years more as improvements will take some time now and the 300 to 600 Dollar Range still is far off. If you Upgrade you need an oled and this glosy tint is not an issue if you dont have a light source behind you thats Not switchable.
So sun is not an issue?
@@micnolmadtube if you have the Sun behind you i mean switchable in a way that you can cover the window easily. If thats so like in my case you can use for work at day and gaming of course
@@micnolmadtube if you have enough sun behind you where you cant see the screen, its going to be hard to play a game, regardless of which panel you have.
@@micnolmadtube find a room that isn't in a greenhouse
@@micnolmadtube If you have the sun behind you the lackluster brightness of WOLED will arguably make a bigger difference than anything, and that gets more and more true with each subsequent generation of QD. WOLED is fully developed to the point it won't see major advancements anymore, QD still has room to grow and the 3rd gen panels absolutely demolish WOLED for brightness. Rtings puts the C3 at the level of the S95B, which is pathetic given that it's now over 2 years old. The new Samsung breaks 1100cd/m in many conditions where the newest and best WOLEDs barely break 800 under any APL.
FYI: You don't want the colour range to exceed the colour space. Anything over 100% SRGB is wrong. The monitor should have the capability to clamp the output to the chosen colour space. Also QD-OLED and WOLED should be the same in this regard, the former only bests the latter in colour volume tests which check the colour range relative to brightness changes.
Hey man
What is monitor that suitable for editing video or digital painting?
@@ckngmad1357 This channel author didn't want me recommending other channels and deleted my response lol. Anyway I would wait for the 4k (glossy) OLED monitors coming out in the next few months.
But why is sRGB still a thing? If you're going to measure the coverage of a wide-gamut monitor, it should be P3 and Adobe RGB. The relic sRGB just needs to die.
@@studiog2682 Because (virtually) all non-HDR content is authored for SRGB and would look horrible and way over saturated if your monitor runs wider than the standard spec.
@@djayjp Then use the sRGB setting on your monitor. Monitors can be set to different color spaces including sRGB. It would be stupid to have a crippled OLED that can only do sRGB. When you spec an OLED it's a given that it can show more colors than sRGB. And saying some number over 100% sRGB makes no sense. I want to know how much of P3 it can do.
Ah yes, I do see the perfect blacks on my $20 goodwill 720p 4x3 no name lcd.
Are you going to check out the AOC Gaming 25G3ZM/BK, its a 240hz VA really well priced with good contrast numbers and would love to see your opinion on it, keep up the good work :))
At 4:12 it can be seen the big difference if you look closely at the honey on the table You can see every little detail at WOLED but due to much brightness and oversaturated colors the little detail just get lost on QD-Led... Thats the point in Competitve Gaming if u have very good eyes (like me) i want to better see details if some 1 is lurking arround at FPS games. There is a reason why SRGB over a given % is bad . The QD led at 4:12 in my opinion shows UNREAL colors what was not intended to be there.
First of all, the "detail loss" is due to a slight overexposure of the camera sensor this was recorded with, and then this was compressed into a Rec709 video.
Second, even if the color reproduction was "unrealistic" in your opinion, it all just comes down to color management. The QD-OLED is able to produce the same color range as the W-OLED, and also BEYOND that. So if you don't like that, just dial it down
I will let the oled monitor market flesh out more and get cheaper before I make the jump. But for now i love my LG C2. But I mostly use it for movies, shows, and youtube. I need to try some more gaming on it. But since I mostly play competitive games, my LG ultragear 1440p 165hz monitor meets my needs for now
Gaming on an OLED is game changing. Not all games have proper HDR implementation, though. Jedi Survivor is an example of a recent game with good HDR (even though the game still stutters a good bit). Doom Eternal is also really good. The most mind-blowingly beautiful game on OLED I've played so though is "Ori and the Will of the Wisps." My jaw literally dropped the first time I played it on my OLED monitor after originally playing the game on my LG Ultragear 27" 1440p 165hz monitor (I'm guessing it's the same monitor as yours). It's a night and day difference.
@@zues287 Hell yeah! I love ori and I can only imagine its great on oled! I beat the first one but haven't completed the second game, so I will definitely put it up on the oled. I bet those colors pop with the dark background!
Adi 2 pro looks very nice on your desk. Can you please make a review video for me? I’m considering getting one.😁😁😁
Great and useful video. Would have been awesome to have section markers, in particular a marker to the Text Rendering section. Thanks!
Lmao, i watched a couple of videos of yours and never realized that you are german until the end of this video
He has about the strongest German accent out there
What do you think that accent is my guy
He sounds extremely german
Hört man
Where the fuck did you think he was from…Florida? 😅
Funny how flat panels have these issues of fringing when a high quality or high end CRT wouldn't really until it got some life on it and then would just need an adjustment
While I have always been a HUGE crt fan it was also not without its own issues.
As a horror game/film/series guy I have been waiting for a long time to see deep blacks again as in the days of CRT so I m saving for any affordable OLED now (ultrawide). Cant wait to revisit Alien Isolation in a monitor that can display true black or rewatching some of my favorite horror films. Althought my cut off price for a monitor was 500€ tops and giving 1000 for a monitor when I can use them on upgrades on my car is A LOT... I just cant stand grey "blacks" anymore.
Oh man, Alien Isolation on a QD-OLED gen 2 will be amazing, can't wait to get the new 32' 4k 240hz QD-OLED Gen 2 monitor in January 2024.
Q3 2024 Samsung 2K 360hz QD-OLED will be my endgame monitor
Worth mentioning the woled has raised blacks in ambient light too MLA + matte coating doesn't help with this.
all those comparissons to boil down essentialy to monitor size, might as well just say that in the begining since there are so few solutions out there...
Neither is worth the current asking price.
and these prices are for 1440p. imagine the price for 4K. the LG 45" OLED cost $1,500 and it's 1440p. at this price you can get a 65" 4K TV.
QD Oled on a well lit environment turns Black into semi Black, Samsung needs to improve this further. WOLED wins in every lighting situations.
Ah I thought the 34 inch LG WOLED PANEL would be coming in Q1? Is it only starting production by then? And if so, when do you think this panel will hit the market?
I wish you had used similar screens for the test cuz one of the screens are curved and the other is flat
very helpful, thank you
Am I missing something? I thought the point of oleds was that they DONT burn your retinas?
the QD actually looks alot better in the dark, but if the lights are on...
This is a great alternative to $700 for 32 inches and 3840 x 2160 pixels?
11:00 is all well and good but the fact is out of these two monitors only alienware offers burn in warranty.
excellent choice of dac!
The burn in issue should be called burned out, since the leds plainly burn out.
nice to compare 3440 1440 to 2560 :D also right monitor colors dont look so good.
kinda dumb when w-oled is with a white pixel on top of the rgb and is standard for consumer products , qd oled there is only ultra wide or tv's on the market atm so if you want a 16x9 aspect you have no choice atm but to buy w-oled
Why would be the fringing any better on LCD vs WOLED? It has the same order of subpixels with the exception of extra white that doesn't add to fringing (theoretically it makes it less visible, because red and green subpixels are thinner).
Subpixel order and spacing both matter
They need to make more 28 inch monitors
Are you planning to review G24F 2 anytime soon?
WOLED anyday. The dedicated white pixel helps a lot prolonging burn ins.
Yeah. Also blacks remain black when sunlight is in the room with WOLED. While it turns gray when any sunlight hits a QDOLED screen.
QD is nicer looking in perfectly dark conditions. But that's not realistic all the time.
Thanks 😊links to the flamingo and leaves wallpapers please
Hope Alienware releases nice QD OLED 2160p (5K2K) 21:9 160hz+ monitor soon.