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Lex is our daddy now... | SUPERMAN: DOOMSDAY (2007) Reaction
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- Опубликовано: 17 мар 2023
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Fun fact, in the original Death of Superman comic, the whole League was fighting alongside Clark. Speaking of, watch the other animated DC movies
Not the whole League. Just the heroes living in Metropolis at the time.
@@Blizzard-kf3qm Pretty sure it was the OG 7 at the time who fought
@@chrisdiokno5600 It was not. It was Blue Beetle, Booster Gold, Bloodwynd, Maxima, Fire and Ice, and Guy Gardner who was a yellow lantern at the time.
@@Blizzard-kf3qm Ah, may be misremembering. Been ages
I would also definitely recommend checking out *Superman vs The Elite (2012)* as it's one of the most overlooked/underrated DC films and my personal favourite Superman. Great reaction Meg👍
Truth! It also is my favourite counter to everyones love of the "Murderverse"Snyder Superman.
Superman vs The Elite focuses more on that good and bad side. A battle of morals. You should react to that one too definitely one of my top 3 Superman movies.
My god. Superman vs the Elite is the best Superman movie to me. In terms of message and writing
The voice of Lois in this is Anne Heche, who tragically died last year in a horrific accident.
Really, that's so sad 😞
This is another one of my favorite Superman animated movies!
It focuses on that classic DC comic novel of "The Death and Return of Superman". Also this movie's animation had him definitely looking very superior as he should be being the world's greatest superhero he's known as. Lois Lane was pretty cool and helpful in this one too, like that part when she was saving those kids on that bus from Toyman while Superman was presumed dead but of course he wasn't.
19:36 In the comics Toyman was just a "funny" villain in the 70's to the end of the 80's. He would commit crimes with toys but not really hurt anyone. That changed in 1993 with Superman #84 where the Toyman kidnaps some kids and when one of the kids Adam Grant (son of Catherine Grant who was a prominent secondary character at the time) helps the others to escape he kills him. It was a very dark turn and actually made the news if I remember.
But it was the 90's and turning everything and everyone GrimDark was the thing back then. Which is why 2 years before you had "The Death of Superman" and "The Breaking of Batman" story arcs (among others between both Marvel and DC).
Some versions have made Toyman a pedophile as well, though I don't remember if it was the main canon or just elseworlds(the most prominent was the one in "Lex Luthor:Man of Steel".)
Great reaction Meg.
The Death of Superman comic has a fascinating story behind it, in which the writers had intended that year’s big “event” to be a Superman/Lois wedding. But they were beat to the punch by the Lois and Clark TV series at the time. At a pitch session about alternatives, someone literally joked “we could kill him”. And everyone laughed.
Then stopped laughing and thought about it. Deaths happened in comics before, but were usually undermined the next issue by a resurrection. But the comics stuck to their guns for weeks, and launched into a follow up story about the world without Kal’El - a world you’ll see when you check out the more recent, two part, more faithful adaptation of the same comic: “death of Superman” and “war of the supermen”.
Looking forward to the next one!
Gotta love how both of your superman animated movies you’ve watched have been about him Dying Hehe, but Death of Superman is an iconic part of superman’s lore and story, so seeing Doomsday and experiencing so much iconic imagery like the tattered cape waving like a torn flag. Can’t wait for you to continue on your DC Journey it’s truly become one of my favourite parts of my week when I see a new upload ~ 💚
'Superman vs The Elite' should DEFINITELY be next on the docket. It's one of my favorites! And 'Red Son', too :)
lol, when I heard “The Dark Night Returns” I literally made a sound that can only be described as an exited ape haha, that’s how exited I am by your experiences through this universe that is so important to me, can’t wait for the journey to continue~
Wait is she watching that next?
@@ch33les99 yeah, she said in the outro that one of the next DC animated movies she will watch is DKR parts 1 & 2
Almost all of the animated DC movies are kind of their own thing it's not until The Flashpoint movie that the movies actually fall on the same timeline/universe.
Those movies are also more in line with the DC comics New 52 line which in the comics was when they reset & retconned stuff so that most characters were younger and technically new ignoring the almost 80 years worth of lore/history many had built up.
This story arc was adapted much better in The Death of Superman and Reign of the Supermen, they were much more faithful to the original comic.
Agreed. What I like about that one is how it shows how strong Doomsday really is as it’s able to take down all of the Justice League.
She’ll react to that too in time. It’s part of the DCAU movie order
Agreed i was thinking the same thing while watching this
Agreed!
No it wasn't lol this is way better. the reign of superman arc may not have been as accurate but this doomsday is a vengeful murderer and way more threatening plus the clone killing toyman was way more impactfull then the 4 superman standins sucking lol
So proud to have met James Masters at Wales Comic-Con last year.
1:44- Don't show me that. Don't remind me that Anne is dead. 10:37- Like Brock Lesnar, he literally made it Suplex City.
Black suit Superman with three mullet is cheesy and the most 80s thing ever and I love it. Still like the red and blue tho.
The death & return of Superman was a massive comic book ark in the early 90s. & none of the movie adaptations have done it justice in my humble opinion
Meg, this is an altered version of the comics the Death of Superman, and Reign of the Supermen , where after he died at the hands of Doomsday, four beings came into existence , Superboy, John Henry aka STEEL, Cyborg Superman and the Terminator or something like that and Cyborg Superman thought he was Superman, even thought he was just a robot programmed to replace Superman if he got sick .
15:37 That character was voiced by filmmaker Kevin Smith, I recommend reacting to his “Superman Lives” story to get the reference he’s making
Yea I think Superman looks badass with long hair the same way that Aquaman looks sick with long hair.
It's funny you mentioned Ashley from Mass Effect, bevause Superman shares the same voice actor as Kal'Reegar, the Quarian Marine you can save with Tali in Mass Effect 2. Yeah, they're both voiced by Adam Baldwin.
The storyline this is based off of is The death and Return of Superman. If you want an omnibus of it that’s the title of the book. The individual trade paperbacks are called The death of Superman, A funeral for a friend, Reign of the Supermen and the Return of Superman.
Your passion for learning about the shadow self made me realize how satisfying Star Wars will be for you philosophically
Doomsday sees helicopter: I HAVE TO PROTECT MY IMAAAAAAAGGGEEE!!!!
This movie was one of my favorite movies as a Kid I'd watch it everyday sometimes more than once a day I loved it so much
I remember renting this movie at blockbuster back in 08. This was such a good movie. I think death of Superman was better but this is still a great movie.
The comics this is loosely based on are collected in the trade paperbacks death of superman, funeral for a friend, reign of the supermen, and return of superman, if you're interested in picking them up
Sorry if you didn't know but the voice actress of lois from this movie died, i thought she did a great job, i felt more sad because she was the original Lois from this 2007 to present dc animated movies. These voices feel more special to me because of that.
Was that a MBMBAM sound bite at 17:05?? What a great surprise! Great reaction as always!
Yep 🤣🤣
Superman without a childhood
OMG, the way you talked about the dark side of a person and the "ego", you NEED to read Batman Ego.
My shadow self would be penguin lol. His dedication to his bird motif is unparalleled
Lois Lane is voiced by an actress who played a vulcanologist in a 1990s film called Volcano.
This movie is a much abridged adaptation of a year of comic books across multiple titles.
33:07- My darker self is Annihilus from Marvel. I love his ultimate goal in life. That is a true badguy and I can understand how he got to that mindset.
Can't wait till you get to superman vs the elite!
I promise he doesn't die there
Biscuit got turned into gravy
17:00 Lex is obssesed with Superman. Clark once lot his powers for an year and one of Justice League members was dressed as new hero named Nova. Lex was CONVINCED that it was Superman, who dressed up just to make fun of him. Also, as you may noticed from his multiple appearances, he is actually jealous as all hell that there's somebody better than him, both physically and as a person. Deep down, he knows he belongs with supervillains like Joker and Sinestro, but is in denial.
I recommend you playing the injustice game in the future or reading the comics. You would like it a lot. But not now, just in the future, the story covers the full universe, every hero you've heard of+more, so it would be much better after you've seen most of the animated and live action movies.
The movie is based off the Death of Superman comic. I believe that was the first time they killed off that character. It also spawned a lot of off shoot Supermen characters. The second half was pretty much original. When your get into the full comic story it's a longer 1.
Now that u mention Star Wars I can’t wait till ur reactions for it
Love your reactions! Hope you do WandaVision, Loki, and other Marvel shows. You and your by are funny.
I really want to see you watch "Crisis on 2 Earth's" it's one of my favorite Movies.
But you should wait to watch it after Batman TAS, Superman TAS, and The Original Justice League.
Then watch Crisis on 2 Earth's, then Justice League Unlimited.
If you want to delve more into whether Superman should kill &/or make the rules & the effects of it there’s the Injustice games+comics (not the bad animated film take) & Vs The Elite
My dark self would probably be a narcissist
Jimmy making 💰 moves!
This is one of the 1st DC animated movies, one of the 1st to also get a remake and was one of the BIGEST comic book events at the time it came out . and You'll see this set up a lot, IMO not even the saddest DC animated movie.
When you see Star Wars, will it be release date order, or time line order? and will it include the side movies and animated shows?
Ive always wanted to see some one Start with Rouge One then follow it with episode 4. I would also enjoy some one seeing the cartoons especially the 2D Clone Wars ones. And I would also enjoy some one seeing the Star Wars Parody stuff. And also Star Trek shows, cartoons and movies.
superman vs the elite answers some of your questions too
For me this was watched after knowing of but not reading the comic . Over all Not nearly as depressing as other movies and I like it better then the remake but the remake puts a lot more in to its story. Some of my favorite stories are ones you have not seen yet but at the time it came out it was really good.
Doomsday is Superman's greatest fear because he acts more like a force of nature than a living being. Doomsday can't be threatened or talked down or negotiated with or made to see reason. The only way to stop him is to kill him and that's why Superman is so afraid of him, because he forces Superman to cross that thin line.
EDIT: Removed the pesky movie request I keep commenting but still wanna give my thoughts on this specific film)
Superman vs Doomsday is a fairly okay film but I think it didn't adapt the original comic that well (especially the post-death story) and I think Doomsday would've felt like a bigger threat if the other JL members were present as well during the initial attack
Some context from other media:
In the early 90s, Lois and Clark had been dating for a while, and the plan at DC Comics was to have them get married. At the same time, there was a live-action TV show called _Lois & Clark_ (also known in some places as "The New Adventures of Superman"), starring Teri Hatcher and Dean Cain, respectively, in the title roles, and the show's producers had pushed to be allowed to do a wedding storyline first, but they were a year or so away from getting to that point.
So, when trying to figure out how to fill a year's worth of comics, one of the editors working on Superman comics at the time jokingly suggested "Why don't we kill him?". "The Death of Superman" was an arc that ran from the end of December 1992 until October 1993, starting with the Doomsday creature tearing across the US, flattening the Justice League of the time, and eventually being defeated, apparently at the cost of Superman's life.
The issue where Superman actually "dies" became a collector's item, and prompted a speculator boom as rich investors bought up comics thinking they'd become more valuable... and then a bust as they realised that comics don't gain value like that.
The story is split into three: "Doomsday", wherein Superman fights Doomsday, "Funeral for a Friend", which deals with a world grieving the loss of Superman, and "Reign of the Supermen", where several new heroes appear, each claiming to be the new Superman in some way (this adaptation replaces the Supermen with a single Clone Superman)... which I'll say less about.
Once Superman returned properly at the end of the story (this is hardly a spoiler - Superman comics clearly didn't stop 30 years ago), the success of the storyline prompted a number of similar stories for many characters at DC, starting with "Batman: Knightfall" (which was also a response to the popularity of ultra-violent, deadly vigilante anti-hero types in the comics at the time), leading to a few heroes dying (some of whom came back immediately, while others didn't get resurrected for _years_), and even Marvel tried to get in on that kind of story, with the infamous "Clone Saga" in Spider-Man comics.
A more comics-faithful version (not completely, but closer) of this story was also adapted in the DC Animated Movie Universe in two movies: The Death of Superman (2018) and Reign of the Supermen (2019). Further, many characters introduced during the story have become enduring fan-favourites in their own right.
5:00 the ultimate Soldier of mass destruction Doomsday
Can’t wait till you get to Superman vs the Elite and The Dark Knight Returns. Top-tier animated superhero movies
Is allowed for kids is pg13.Just do not give weird sex inuendos to lex(this is not a japanese yaoi).He made the clone so in sort of a way he was his daddy.He only was bulliying him and dischargin his hate on the clone.He was not a cop he became a dictator and a murderer little by little.A total villain.
8:12 dude lol ....they...beat...each...other...to... death....with....their ...fists
If you like the whole questioning of why it's important for someone like Superman to have morals, check out Superman Vs. The Elite
Good❤ love superman and lois 🎉
Daddy Lex!!!
One of two animated movies with doomsday in them and this felt the most rushed.
This was Superman's first death.
I don't know if someone mentioned this but it's very complicated to clone Kryptonian DNA. Human technology is obsolete to do so.
With that discussion at the end, I think you would enjoy Persona 4 a lot.
maybe watch a show called gotham is about young bruce and beginning of many villains
Welp if you like shadows so much I bet you would love playing any of the Persona games they like talking about the twisted desires and "the true self" by the use of mask and in Persona 5 they are literally superheroes (or superthieves or whatever)
You should watch the movies the death of superman and reign of supermen it matches closer to the comics they had to really skip over things to make it into this one movie. the best thing this movie did was cast James Marsters aka Spike from Buffy the vampire slayer as Lex, second best was the blink and you miss it Kevin Smith cameo joking about the giant robot spider being lame, since in the 90s Warner brothers wanted to make a superman movie with a giant spider with Nicolas Cage as superman that they got Kevin Smith to write, but when Tim burton was brought on as the director he fired Kevin Smith, that movie never got made.
And if your Curious on the Comics, they’re not that much like the movie but if you want to experience Death of Superman and the events after it’s split in Three parts
- Death of Superman
- Reign of The Supermen
- The Return of Superman
And if you want a story that covers a Dark Supeman, in a good way, then Read the Injustice comics~
lmao batman batgirl situation
To this day I still don't understand why he didn't just leave Doomsday in space.
There’s a version of this story that is a little better in my opinion called The Death of Superman, and it’s sequel Reign of the Supermen, which I think you should check out.
I starting to feel like she needs to watch batman/superman: apokolips
This movie combines a bunch of comic arcs for Superman, and kind of rushes all of them I suggest reading the comics to get a better picture of how this stuff played out death of Superman, for starters
Oh god i cant wait till we get a The Boys reaction !
Imagine if Toyman and Joker ever teamed up...
(Incidentally, MegMage, would you be willing to advise and/or assist me on my fan-fic story, particularly in regards to the relationship characterizations of the canonical main character, Sailor Moon and my own character Vampire Moon, who is supposed to be Sailor Moon's long-lost twin, who happens to be a cute shy but friendly vampire superhero girl... and the fan-fics big twists and the titular secret of the story, I really want it to be great? Any help would be much appreciated)
Unfortunately all these versions of Doomsday fail to catch the idea of the original in the comics. Not even the more recent The Death of Superman animated movie, It's much better than this one but there is still something missing. Also as some pointed here in the 1st half of The Death saga in comics the Justice League was helping him...best said, he started helping the League and ended alone.
Regarding the clone, Lex wasn't forcing him to kill Toyman. As Lex said he has the same morals as Superman but lacks all Clark learnt in his childhood. The clone only has embeded in his mind all that is of common knowledge about Superman but nothing of what isn't common knowledge.
James Marsters is our daddy. But yeah it's very odd seeing Marsters voicing Lex Luthor as he plays a really cool character in Smallville and of course Spike from Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I do really like the art style of this film slight Animated Series vibes more so The Justice League minus the really cool retro futurism Art Deco Metropolis. That's one of the more negative things about alot of the non DCAU stuff Metropolis for the most parts ends up looking like a typical city and even alot of DC stuff has Gotham looking pretty boring as well such as the whole DCAMU line up of movies. The Batman series, Long Halloween, Under the Red Hood, Lego Batman Movie, and Batman: Gotham Knight these nail Gotham though.
Man of Tomorrow, DCAU, and the new Suicide Squad game are the only media's that really have a good rendition of Metropolis. Hopefully with James Gunn's Superman movie we get to see Metropolis brought to life like we see in the DCAU. But nontheless the stories are still fun even if the cities can be a little disappointing.
All I hear now is Zamasu from Dragon Ball Super since they had him do his English voice.
Which was kind of a redemption for him after he played Piccolo in the mess that was Dragon Ball Evolution.
31:05 While this one might've handled the brutality(or more so the fear as Superman is shown to be matched) of the Doomsday fight better the movies The Death of Superman and Reign of Supermen followed the original comic more closely though obviously still had major departures.
Both movies however easily severely outclass the travesty Snyder did in his movies.
Yeah Doomsday has always been one of Superman's most powerful and formidable villains in his rogue's gallery everytime Superman and Doomsday face off it's like a Clash of the Titans, Superman doesn't always die facing Doomsday but he gets the shit kicked out of him taking this thing down Lol, this movie is based off the comic called The Death of Superman you should totally do a comic book review video for this comic like you did for the Batman Year One comic book review video you did 😊🙌🔥
Do you know of the best edition of Jung to read? I have my own demons I am wrestling with.
Aww Death of Superman is a much better adaptation of this in my opinion, give it a watch if you want.
That’s later down the list
The mist recent version is closer to the comics series. Nevertheless enjoy this movie a lot
Great reaction ❤ hope someday you react to the mask of phantasm.
You are ready for "Man of steel " movie.... Plzz. Plz give me man of steel reaction
Superman vs the elite please 🙏
Any time I see Superman in a romantic situation, I’m reminded of Niven’s “Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex” essay. If don’t know it, it has a Wikipedia entry which has a link to a copy of it online. It’s…not a G-rated essay. :)
Deleted scene from Hancock
With all this clone Superman going on, I wish they'd have went all the way and just had him become Bizarro, it's always fun having backwards talking misshapen Superman. Oh yeah, you goddamn right we get the black costume and mullet hair
Also this 16:54
This doomsday was better than the new movie even if that was more comic accurate
I would say "The Death of Superman" does this way better
The Death of Superman is a DCAMU (Dc animated movie universe) movie, and probably one of the best ones, i'm not a big fan of the rest of the movies besides the Superman one and Flashpoint
Watch the newer Death of Superman movie. It's so much better.
I want to recommend the injustice video game and comics but I think you should learn more about the other dc characters and the world of dc first
As for dark selves, I write short stories in my free time and I'm pretty sure I already have a supervillain dark self. He uses traps and poison (jigsaw-esque). He's an embodiment of nihilism at its worst. Nothing you do matters, so why not just give in to all the worst impulses you have. You can inflict the pain you have on everyone else so you should. Make them understand that the world is nothing more than a cruel series of random occurrences. There is no justice, there is no reason.
All of you that are being big crybabies over the Batgirl/Batman scene are so squeamish, like seriously you guys act like you never seen to grown adults have $3x before.
Bruce timm when not around Paul dini and Shirley walker always gives off certain sexual vibes. Lex daddy moment and Barbara/Bruce. Yikes
Hope you get around to watching All-Star Superman. Which is based on what's considered one of the best Superman stories.
Also, the voice of Superman's robot is provided by Tom Kenny, aka SpongeBob!
(Evil Superman may be new to you, but the rest of us are tired of it at this point.)
She already did watch All-star Superman
Superman does die in the comics. There is a game that shows what would happen if the superheros killed called injustice gods among us. In the comics Superman did keep the long hair for a bit but people hateded it.
They made Superman look so old. The saggy parts and wrinkles on his face are over the top
This movie and Superman: The Movie are the best Superman movies Man of Steel and Superman Returns in my opinion are the worst they get Superman's character all wrong they portray Superman as dark and edgy which he isn't he's the most wholesome superhero ever I mean his mom made his suit that's more wholesome than any Disney film come on how can they screw up Superman? Also how could they screw up Henry Cavill playing Superman? He's the nicest dude ever the role of Superman was meant for him but instead of playing Superman he played Homelander
Facts 💯
Hard disagree, but in the spirit of Superman, I think we can still get along. :)
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