He's better in the comics. Here they play up the sexism on both sides for an extra layer of drama and to show how it can negatively affect everybody involved, and Steve's character get's caught up in it, since he's the focal male character.
Gail Simone Boyfriends for Wonder Woman are just terrible, I finished her Omnibus a few months back and that relationship with that other dude is the worst part about it.
That is, indeed, her canonical origin; made from clay by Hippolyta. Later reinventions of Wonder Woman make her the daughter of Zeus by Hippolyta, which always seemed less cool to me. Many authors over the years have experimented and shifted her story and that of the Amazons. They've been immortal isolated guardians of the world, and they've been raiders who steal men for reproduction and condemn their male children to the mines under the island. But the simpler, purer island of women, separated from Man's World, is always the best.
Great reaction, btw. This Wonder Woman movie is a standalone, unconnected with the "DCAU" cannon. The connected DC Animated Universe, the legendary cartoons everyone raves about with Kevin Conroy and the other voice action allstars, is only a few properties: B:TAS, S:TAS, Justice League, and Justice League Unlimited, with 'softer' connections to Batman Beyond, Static Shock, and a handful of other smaller projects. As always, DCAU Wonder Woman is Best Wonder Woman. Look forward to when you get through BTAS and STAS and are ready to go on the grand and epic journey that is JL!
Batman Beyond is on the mainstream timeline for the DCAU at the very end. Static Shock and Zeta Project are soft titles. Also I'm really excited for her to get to Justice League and Justice League Unlimited too! DCAU Flash, Green Arrow, and Question are some of my favorite heroes, and DCAU Steve Trevor is so much better than this one
@@Notorious_Network she has the powers (previously) because she is blessed by the Amazon goddesses, and is the best among the amazons. Obviously her birth from clay is a divine miracle from which Zeus can be called her father in a divine sense. But the later addition, that she is literally his child by virtue of a mortal/divine tryst… well, it may be perfectly Hellenic; but like I said, strikes me as less cool and unique.
I've always been curious about the last point of them being an island of women separated from the world in terms of "how do they stay populated?" Because I feel like the "raiders that condemn their men to be mine slaves" angle sort of undermines the whole "the outside world is full of evil" message that tends to be tied to the Amazons. If it's that they're under the impression of "men are always innately evil", then there is at least an understandable reason for that line of thinking, granted it's still wrong but it's KINDA understandable (at least in terms of why they would think that). Personally I would think that if there was any group of peoples that would be all about equality it would be the Amazons.
Wonder Woman's first appearance was in 1941. The movie with Gal Gadot changed the time period from World War II to the first World War. As you saw, this animated take updated Diana to the modern age.
I remember when this movie came out, a lot of fans were praising the writing because it was Gail Simone, who wrote a lot of Wonder Woman comics. I always thought this movie was a big step down, and didn’t get the praise
Wonder Woman is such a timeless icon, who has a lot of potential and is truly fantastic and compassionate when written well. I understand that in this film Steve Trevor is not really a likable character, however I can assure you Steve is a much more likable character and love interest to Diana in the comics, that's why I do prefer Chris Pines Steve Trevor since he was such a likeable and charming character with some cute chemistry alongside Gal Gadots Diana.
On the writing of this, watching your reaction, it's basically how Wonder Woman in media and comics feels, one moment you get fun & cool action and interactions, the next the writer is falling flat on their face with their commentary about sexism; femininity vs Masculinity and whatever their take on Feminism is . I just started the Perez run and in light of other Wonder Woman runs I've read, it is impressive how well it's ideas and the storylines hold up.. People often say Superman is the hardest character to write, I Disagree, Wonder Woman is... For some reason people fumble the bag more than get it right
@@curtiszyr the fact that you can count on one hand the number of good Wonder Woman in runs is proof of how much harder it is, hell the current run of both the main Superman and Action comics have been great if not decent, the current run of Wonder Woman right now is divisive
When I first saw this movie back in 2009, I was thoroughly impressed with it. Finally, a Wonder Woman movie that gets the character and understands what she’s all about. While time has sort of dampened this film for me, it still stands out as one of the better depictions of the princess of Themyscira. She’s easily the greatest female superhero of all time - it’s not even a close competition, IMO. Loved your reaction, and I can’t wait until you finally tackle the 2017 live-action movie!
yeah id dont know if i consider her particularly great lol, like ive never met someone who had to have a wonder woman comic book especially compared to other dc or even marvel heroines
@@mayotango1317 If you doubt that Wonder Woman is the greatest female superhero, then you need to read more comics and the origin of characters. Wonder Woman as a comic character opened the door for female superhero characters. If it wasn't for her majority of female superhero characters wouldn't even exist let alone being popular.
@@mayotango1317 Are there any particular comics you'd recommend a person read, any particular characters you think are more deserving of "greatest female superhero" than Wonder Woman? Because I really must say, if you're not willing to give names and stake a position, it's hard not to conclude you're just being contrary for no reason.
Read comics, Wonderwoman based have been achieved being a Goddess of Truth, Peace and War. Even became the watcher of Multiverse, Quintessence. Main Origin : Everyone thinks that Wonderwoman is only a Bust Tank Hard rock Fighter . But she was made purely from Magic. She's a Mystical Being, along with Powerful Mystic users, Zatanna, Phantom Strangers, Constantine and more.
I hope you decide to watch through the DCAU movies that start with The Flashpoint Paradox and ends with Justice League Dark: Apokolips War. I think you would enjoy that version of Wonder Woman. This one is kind of a DCAU Stand Alone, like the others you've been watching. Flashpoint Paradox basically resets all of these into a single streamlined saga, which is done again after Apokolipse War leading into the "TomorrowVerse" which is still going on now...hopefully
5:46 yes that's Diana AKA wonder woman well known origin story she was made from clay and add a bit of blood a dash of lightning and boom... baby. 31:48 that's the point of wonder woman she's a feminist the good kind. While also being a warrior.
I don’t think this is a very good representation of Wonder Woman, and even less of a good representation of Steve Trevor. Wonder Woman debuted in the comics in 1941, and among her appearances in live action, the 1970s Lynda Carter remains the best, in my view. As for animation, I honestly don’t think modern releases are ever on the right track. ... Hot Hades? Well, this guy was no Erik Thomson, I admit. ... Created by Dr. William Moulton Marston, Wonder Woman draws heavily on Greek (or sometimes Roman) mythology, and yes, she is traditionally sculpted from clay by her mother, Hippolyta, and given life by the gods. ... Wonder Woman is usually cited as one of only three DC heroes to remain in continuous publication following the end of the Golden Age of comics, the other two being Superman and Batman (aside from a handful of others who survived in backup stories in the comics of the big three.) ... I think you’ll like the DCAU version, though I don’t think she’s without flaw. ... Now would be a good time to once again voice support for Justice League: A New Frontier. 😁
Diana is sculpted from clay by her mother. Brought to life by several Greek Goddesses (not by Zeus's lightning as in this film, that's a very recent change to her story). Like the fairy godmothers to Cinderella (clay for ashes) (it's a widespread legend) she is the product of a Mother's yearning for a child and her faith in the goddesses, finding her own path away from her mother. Hippolyta has only history with Hercules (look up the original Greek Myth for what he did, symbolised by most historians as he took her girdle (young maiden Greek women wore girdles; married, mother-status women did not, rather like the apron worn by Viking and Celtic women)), and why does she like original Steve Trevor? He's a pacifistic soldier, concerned only with defending his home and land's way of life (like Hestia) and shows wisdom and skill (like Athena). He's also the mythical figure of the 'dying and returning King', which is similar to King Arthur and a few other male demigods. Even Hercules had to die and return from Olympus, much wiser. Later Steve Trevors are much less interesting, because of the changing perception of soldiers in the US.
Bruce Timm did great job with this movie and he's the one who chose the Director Lauren Montgomery for this film as he and worked together on the animated series Justice League Unlimited, he praised her work as quite versatile 1. If your wondering MegMage, Bruce Timm didn't right this film, that was another writer just so you know 2. WonderWoman is confirmed to be Bisexual in DC, it can be seen in Grant Morrison's WonderWoman comic book 3. If you want a better shipping for Diana, there's a better one, shipping name called: WonderBat, the relationship between Batman and WonderWoman romance shipping has been going on for years and I hope we see that in animation or live-action
5:48 If I remember correctly it's closest to her most widely used origin, she prayed for a child since obviously an island of women can't have any and Zeus brought the baby she made of clay(at least I dont think it was originally sand) to life and each god blessed the child with a gift. Later reboots played around with her origins some I think one even made her Aries daughter but the most widely used is Hippolyta made her of clay and prayed to Zeus whom brought her to life.
Actually in the original it was Aphrodite who brought the child to life as she was also in charge of the Amazons. After that it was a bunch of female gods that gave her life and powers
This was not the best version of a wonder woman iteration. The action scenes were cool, but in other versions of Steve Trevor I've seen in tv/films he wasn't as obviously sleazy. Diana is essentially half-god. The villain at the end was cheetah. I know of her, but less familiar with her origins. Wonder woman is part of DCs big 3: batman, superman, and wonder woman.
I use to really like this movie growing up, it felt on par with the Justice League Unlimited version of Wonder Woman which is my definitive favorite by far but being an adult now and a bit more educated when it comes to the actual script this movie’s and it’s writing has most definitely not aged well but at the same time some parts feel like they paved the way for the success of Gal Gadot’s Wonder Woman. Definitely a conflicting movie forsure
Yeah i had the same journey with this movie. As a kid i loved it and was one of my favorites but getting older it’s not a good movie in my eyes apart from the animation being good. Gal gadot’s WW and DCAU are my favorite adaptations so far for wondy
31:00 maybe i'm naive but I took that scene to mean being a feminist doesn't you can't want to be a mother. Plus Hipployta is literally the only Amazon who got to be both.
I love that you throw shade at Steve Trevor constantly for being so thirsty but upon hearing about Hades your first comment is "I hope he's hot" Kind of a double standard don't you think? 🤣🤣
You massively missed Persephone's point. She isn't saying that being a woman means you have to be a mother. She was simply saying that the Queen's decision to lock them away from the world has also taken away their freedom. In Persephone's case it took away the option of love and a family. This can also be applied to Alexa and her love for literature. On the island books from the outside are also considered forbidden. While there are some authorized books on the island, fighting is still considered the only thing that matters because the queen has instilled that they are warriors first and foremost. The queen speaks of living freely but limits freedom to such a degree that its not really freedom anymore. Alexa points this out when talking about the horses. "We feed you till you're full. Give you everything you could possibly need, and yet all you want is to run free"
She's technically a golem or construct, made of clay, animated by gifts from some goddesses, and has no father. If her mother was human and her father was Zeus or Ares, or any other god, she'd be a demi-god.
Wonder Woman was created in the early 40s. All characters connected to her have changed drastically over the years. But that's not really unique to her. I mean Batman had no problem using guns and burning people alive in his frost outings. Feel like the main problem with the film though, was they are really trying to feed into this male vs female stereotypes which, that tends to only work in comedies
I didn't watch it yet but by the thumbnail seem we share the same opinion mostly about this film. I watched this movie to give a chance to wonder woman but it made me hate her even more for years until 2017, thank god for that movie.
Hey great video love your reaction your is hades going to be hot made me laugh because in some stories he’s the most attractive out of I’m Zeus and the water dude you know Percy Jackson’s dad
You seemed to have missed this throughout the movie but wherever Ares goes rage and violence follows. I think its even mentioned in this movie. II know at the least its demonstrated in this movie. f you noticed turn the blood moon scene Ares walks past some dogs and they instantly start attacking each other. As well as a solider who is just chilling only to go into a fit of range and stabs a rat. This is why the president is so aggressive.
This movie's writing aged sooooo POORLY... But the soundtrack is still awesome. The Wonder Woman theme of this flick is easily the best and most memorable she's ever had!
Ok Megan, it was 2009, we hadn't realized as a collective that wimmins were people, and not objects for our sexual desires. That writing is very much of THAT era
@MegMage Reacts You should look into the Golden Age era of Wonder Woman comics from the 30's and 40's. Unlike Batman and Superman who were very much of that post depression era, Wonder Woman was full of bdsm imagery, in fact tying her up actually removed her power's. And this bdsm imagery wasn't treated as anything taboo, unusual or as a fetish, it was just out in open, normalized in the context of the stories and Wonder Woman universe. Nowadays it's so obvious when you look at those old images especially knowing the creator/writer of the Wonder Woman comic's William Moulton Marston, bdsm "interests" in their personal life, heavlily injecting it into the earlier Wonder Woman comics, plus she was snarky, I miss snarky sassy Wonder Woman. He himself is an interesting individual
I love this movie, this movie is so awesome the action in this one is almost non-stop especially in the final act 🔥 and this is a really very underrated animated movie, also there's some things I think this animated movie did better than the 2017 live action movie and there are other things I think the 2017 live action movie did better than this animated movie actually a lot of things the live action movie did better than this movie but overall I love both 🙌
The best introduction to Wonder Woman in the DCAU, and the worst introduction to Steve Trevor lol. There’s not exactly a natural introduction to Wonder Woman in the DCAU unfortunately. Many of the characters don’t get proper introductions and even lack solo projects, but hopefully that’ll change soon. To get more of Wonder Woman and a better side of Steve Trevor, I highly recommend checking out the live action Wonder Woman show starring Lynda Carter. He’s not only more handsome but also a lot better characterized as far as I remember anyways.
No God involved in Wonder Woman's origin except Hermes, who gave her speed, and was one of the group four or five Greek Goddesses that gave Diana her gifts (like Cinderella, it's an old myth). Wonder Woman has no father, unless her mother lied to her. The Ares, Zeus or God of the Underworld links with her mother are unique to different re-tellings, in cartoons, movies and some later comics.
There are 2 established Wonder Woman origins. The first is made of clay, and the second is child of Zeus. Both are the ripped off whole cloth from Greek mythology. I prefer the child of Zeus origin as it lines up very easily with my knowledge of the original myths.
The author, his wife and their girlfriend are really interesting. The creator of the lie detector test wanted to come up with a female super hero that was psychologically designed to promote strong women. Blah blah into bondage blah blah. Wonder woman is super interesting
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When you said "I think she came from a planet like superman", I clutched my pearls.😀
^^
He's better in the comics.
Here they play up the sexism on both sides for an extra layer of drama and to show how it can negatively affect everybody involved, and Steve's character get's caught up in it, since he's the focal male character.
@emersonplays No because they unintentionally made him come off as creep, like she said, while other characterizations avoid that.
Yeah I don’t know why they wrote Steve Trevor like that
This is probably the worst version of Steve Trevor I have seen. He was great in The Justice League TV show.
Gail Simone Boyfriends for Wonder Woman are just terrible, I finished her Omnibus a few months back and that relationship with that other dude is the worst part about it.
That is, indeed, her canonical origin; made from clay by Hippolyta. Later reinventions of Wonder Woman make her the daughter of Zeus by Hippolyta, which always seemed less cool to me. Many authors over the years have experimented and shifted her story and that of the Amazons. They've been immortal isolated guardians of the world, and they've been raiders who steal men for reproduction and condemn their male children to the mines under the island. But the simpler, purer island of women, separated from Man's World, is always the best.
Great reaction, btw. This Wonder Woman movie is a standalone, unconnected with the "DCAU" cannon. The connected DC Animated Universe, the legendary cartoons everyone raves about with Kevin Conroy and the other voice action allstars, is only a few properties: B:TAS, S:TAS, Justice League, and Justice League Unlimited, with 'softer' connections to Batman Beyond, Static Shock, and a handful of other smaller projects. As always, DCAU Wonder Woman is Best Wonder Woman. Look forward to when you get through BTAS and STAS and are ready to go on the grand and epic journey that is JL!
Batman Beyond is on the mainstream timeline for the DCAU at the very end. Static Shock and Zeta Project are soft titles.
Also I'm really excited for her to get to Justice League and Justice League Unlimited too! DCAU Flash, Green Arrow, and Question are some of my favorite heroes, and DCAU Steve Trevor is so much better than this one
Obviously Zeus (i.e. God) is the father of WW. D'uh.
Hippolyta has zero powers, especially the power of creation.
@@Notorious_Network she has the powers (previously) because she is blessed by the Amazon goddesses, and is the best among the amazons. Obviously her birth from clay is a divine miracle from which Zeus can be called her father in a divine sense. But the later addition, that she is literally his child by virtue of a mortal/divine tryst… well, it may be perfectly Hellenic; but like I said, strikes me as less cool and unique.
I've always been curious about the last point of them being an island of women separated from the world in terms of "how do they stay populated?" Because I feel like the "raiders that condemn their men to be mine slaves" angle sort of undermines the whole "the outside world is full of evil" message that tends to be tied to the Amazons. If it's that they're under the impression of "men are always innately evil", then there is at least an understandable reason for that line of thinking, granted it's still wrong but it's KINDA understandable (at least in terms of why they would think that). Personally I would think that if there was any group of peoples that would be all about equality it would be the Amazons.
Wonder Woman's first appearance was in 1941. The movie with Gal Gadot changed the time period from World War II to the first World War. As you saw, this animated take updated Diana to the modern age.
I remember when this movie came out, a lot of fans were praising the writing because it was Gail Simone, who wrote a lot of Wonder Woman comics. I always thought this movie was a big step down, and didn’t get the praise
Wonder Woman is such a timeless icon, who has a lot of potential and is truly fantastic and compassionate when written well. I understand that in this film Steve Trevor is not really a likable character, however I can assure you Steve is a much more likable character and love interest to Diana in the comics, that's why I do prefer Chris Pines Steve Trevor since he was such a likeable and charming character with some cute chemistry alongside Gal Gadots Diana.
Ka el Nooo! 😂
On the writing of this, watching your reaction, it's basically how Wonder Woman in media and comics feels, one moment you get fun & cool action and interactions, the next the writer is falling flat on their face with their commentary about sexism; femininity vs Masculinity and whatever their take on Feminism is
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I just started the Perez run and in light of other Wonder Woman runs I've read, it is impressive how well it's ideas and the storylines hold up.. People often say Superman is the hardest character to write, I Disagree, Wonder Woman is... For some reason people fumble the bag more than get it right
Superman is harder. Pretty easy to write Wonder Woman , nothing too interesting there
@@curtiszyr the fact that you can count on one hand the number of good Wonder Woman in runs is proof of how much harder it is, hell the current run of both the main Superman and Action comics have been great if not decent, the current run of Wonder Woman right now is divisive
When I first saw this movie back in 2009, I was thoroughly impressed with it. Finally, a Wonder Woman movie that gets the character and understands what she’s all about. While time has sort of dampened this film for me, it still stands out as one of the better depictions of the princess of Themyscira. She’s easily the greatest female superhero of all time - it’s not even a close competition, IMO. Loved your reaction, and I can’t wait until you finally tackle the 2017 live-action movie!
yeah id dont know if i consider her particularly great lol, like ive never met someone who had to have a wonder woman comic book especially compared to other dc or even marvel heroines
@@mayotango1317 If you doubt that Wonder Woman is the greatest female superhero, then you need to read more comics and the origin of characters. Wonder Woman as a comic character opened the door for female superhero characters. If it wasn't for her majority of female superhero characters wouldn't even exist let alone being popular.
@@mayotango1317which
There's too many and they were retconed
Like you think anyone can just read all issues not knowing when even to start?
@@mayotango1317 Are there any particular comics you'd recommend a person read, any particular characters you think are more deserving of "greatest female superhero" than Wonder Woman? Because I really must say, if you're not willing to give names and stake a position, it's hard not to conclude you're just being contrary for no reason.
I mean she's one of the biggest fictional hypocrites from a race of actual monsters that wouldn't last if the roles were reversed
Even the 1975 Wonder Woman tv show had a more progressive Steve Trevor than this movie.
5:27 Actually she still technically needed a man, because that was Zeus giving her life in that scene.
Yep, but originally it was the godesses.
the monster in the end of the movie is another one of Wonder Woman's enemies called Cheetah.
Read comics, Wonderwoman based have been achieved being a Goddess of Truth, Peace and War. Even became the watcher of Multiverse, Quintessence.
Main Origin : Everyone thinks that Wonderwoman is only a Bust Tank Hard rock Fighter . But she was made purely from Magic.
She's a Mystical Being, along with Powerful Mystic users, Zatanna, Phantom Strangers, Constantine and more.
I hope you decide to watch through the DCAU movies that start with The Flashpoint Paradox and ends with Justice League Dark: Apokolips War. I think you would enjoy that version of Wonder Woman. This one is kind of a DCAU Stand Alone, like the others you've been watching. Flashpoint Paradox basically resets all of these into a single streamlined saga, which is done again after Apokolipse War leading into the "TomorrowVerse" which is still going on now...hopefully
5:46 yes that's Diana AKA wonder woman well known origin story she was made from clay and add a bit of blood a dash of lightning and boom... baby. 31:48 that's the point of wonder woman she's a feminist the good kind. While also being a warrior.
the first wonder woman comic came out in the 1940s during ww2.
This version of wonder woman is very 😵. I think the Bruce Timm's unvierse in Justice League is one of the best.
That version certainly works out better for stories where they emphasise her anger or maker her more of a corrupt authoritarian
@@TheJjcczzWW should never be a corrupt authoritarian that sounds like injustice wonder woman who is a villain
The Dark Knight Returns is one of the greatest animated movies ever
If you want Wonder woman, you should check out the show from the '70s. That's the bar that nobody's matched since then.
Nah, it's The DCAU Wonder Woman that set the bar.
@@manehriimao2079yeah the Wonder woman from justice league war and other movies was the best
@@toamszkozak8822 Not the same universe as the one manehriimao2079 talked about.
I can't stop imagining Edward Buck as Steve. Ik Nathan Fillion voices him here, but nearly anything Nathan becomes Natha, figuratively speaking....
I don’t think this is a very good representation of Wonder Woman, and even less of a good representation of Steve Trevor. Wonder Woman debuted in the comics in 1941, and among her appearances in live action, the 1970s Lynda Carter remains the best, in my view. As for animation, I honestly don’t think modern releases are ever on the right track. ... Hot Hades? Well, this guy was no Erik Thomson, I admit. ... Created by Dr. William Moulton Marston, Wonder Woman draws heavily on Greek (or sometimes Roman) mythology, and yes, she is traditionally sculpted from clay by her mother, Hippolyta, and given life by the gods. ... Wonder Woman is usually cited as one of only three DC heroes to remain in continuous publication following the end of the Golden Age of comics, the other two being Superman and Batman (aside from a handful of others who survived in backup stories in the comics of the big three.) ... I think you’ll like the DCAU version, though I don’t think she’s without flaw. ... Now would be a good time to once again voice support for Justice League: A New Frontier. 😁
Diana is sculpted from clay by her mother. Brought to life by several Greek Goddesses (not by Zeus's lightning as in this film, that's a very recent change to her story).
Like the fairy godmothers to Cinderella (clay for ashes) (it's a widespread legend) she is the product of a Mother's yearning for a child and her faith in the goddesses, finding her own path away from her mother.
Hippolyta has only history with Hercules (look up the original Greek Myth for what he did, symbolised by most historians as he took her girdle (young maiden Greek women wore girdles; married, mother-status women did not, rather like the apron worn by Viking and Celtic women)), and why does she like original Steve Trevor?
He's a pacifistic soldier, concerned only with defending his home and land's way of life (like Hestia) and shows wisdom and skill (like Athena).
He's also the mythical figure of the 'dying and returning King', which is similar to King Arthur and a few other male demigods. Even Hercules had to die and return from Olympus, much wiser.
Later Steve Trevors are much less interesting, because of the changing perception of soldiers in the US.
She’s daughter of Zeus , Zeus fxcked everything that moved 😂
Bruce Timm did great job with this movie and he's the one who chose the Director Lauren Montgomery for this film as he and worked together on the animated series Justice League Unlimited, he praised her work as quite versatile
1. If your wondering MegMage, Bruce Timm didn't right this film, that was another writer just so you know
2. WonderWoman is confirmed to be Bisexual in DC, it can be seen in Grant Morrison's WonderWoman comic book
3. If you want a better shipping for Diana, there's a better one, shipping name called: WonderBat, the relationship between Batman and WonderWoman romance shipping has been going on for years and I hope we see that in animation or live-action
5:48 If I remember correctly it's closest to her most widely used origin, she prayed for a child since obviously an island of women can't have any and Zeus brought the baby she made of clay(at least I dont think it was originally sand) to life and each god blessed the child with a gift. Later reboots played around with her origins some I think one even made her Aries daughter but the most widely used is Hippolyta made her of clay and prayed to Zeus whom brought her to life.
Actually in the original it was Aphrodite who brought the child to life as she was also in charge of the Amazons. After that it was a bunch of female gods that gave her life and powers
Ares is mostly her grandfather, and Zeus only became involved in 2011 onwards as her biological father with her being born the old fashion way
This was not the best version of a wonder woman iteration. The action scenes were cool, but in other versions of Steve Trevor I've seen in tv/films he wasn't as obviously sleazy.
Diana is essentially half-god.
The villain at the end was cheetah. I know of her, but less familiar with her origins.
Wonder woman is part of DCs big 3: batman, superman, and wonder woman.
She only became a demigod from 2011 onwards prior to that she was just an Amazon gifted power by the gods
I use to really like this movie growing up, it felt on par with the Justice League Unlimited version of Wonder Woman which is my definitive favorite by far but being an adult now and a bit more educated when it comes to the actual script this movie’s and it’s writing has most definitely not aged well but at the same time some parts feel like they paved the way for the success of Gal Gadot’s Wonder Woman. Definitely a conflicting movie forsure
Yeah i had the same journey with this movie. As a kid i loved it and was one of my favorites but getting older it’s not a good movie in my eyes apart from the animation being good. Gal gadot’s WW and DCAU are my favorite adaptations so far for wondy
31:00 maybe i'm naive but I took that scene to mean being a feminist doesn't you can't want to be a mother. Plus Hipployta is literally the only Amazon who got to be both.
Yes that is True. Persephone wants love and child. But she can't if Amazons are denied to be with men. Hippolyta is the only one who has a child..
I love that you throw shade at Steve Trevor constantly for being so thirsty but upon hearing about Hades your first comment is "I hope he's hot" Kind of a double standard don't you think? 🤣🤣
You massively missed Persephone's point. She isn't saying that being a woman means you have to be a mother. She was simply saying that the Queen's decision to lock them away from the world has also taken away their freedom. In Persephone's case it took away the option of love and a family. This can also be applied to Alexa and her love for literature. On the island books from the outside are also considered forbidden. While there are some authorized books on the island, fighting is still considered the only thing that matters because the queen has instilled that they are warriors first and foremost. The queen speaks of living freely but limits freedom to such a degree that its not really freedom anymore. Alexa points this out when talking about the horses. "We feed you till you're full. Give you everything you could possibly need, and yet all you want is to run free"
Yeah Jason died, it was sad but he go better
Hi Meg! So, are you going to watch Dark Knight returns anytime soon?
Wonder woman is technically a demigod.
She's technically a golem or construct, made of clay, animated by gifts from some goddesses, and has no father.
If her mother was human and her father was Zeus or Ares, or any other god, she'd be a demi-god.
@@stevetheduck1425 it also depends on the continuity
@@chuckrothans7535she’s not a god
@@curtiszyr I didn't say she was a "god" if you actually read what I wrote I said she is technically a demigod 🤦♂️
No offense if I did any research Kratos is god of strength not got a war is only god of war in the game Only in the game his father is not Zeus
Wow..zues being so godly in this
Batman greatest quote is still "The hammers of justice are unisex" 🤣🤣🤣
You should watch the justice league animated series one day its so good
So basically Wonder Woman is a homunculus!
A golem or construct. Probably, it depends upon whether her mother lied.
There's 2 more animated movies of Wonder Woman. You should check it out.
Only one, sadly.
@@mariebourgot4949wonder woman bloodlines ?
@@mahdimarvi-hi9xt Yep
I'm living for your commentary and the cringe of some of the dialogue.
Her and Steve are so much better in the Tomorrowverse WW2 movie. Definitely check that out for a better representation of the characters.
I dare you to react to the abridged version of this movie by DC abridged. they fix steve up real good.
Love the videos. Eventually you gotta get to young justice. After you finish most of the movies and the dcau.
Wonder Woman was created in the early 40s. All characters connected to her have changed drastically over the years. But that's not really unique to her. I mean Batman had no problem using guns and burning people alive in his frost outings.
Feel like the main problem with the film though, was they are really trying to feed into this male vs female stereotypes which, that tends to only work in comedies
best to worst
Wonder Woman 2017 > Wonder Woman: Bloodlines > Wonder Woman: 1984 > Wonder Woman 2009.
Agreed
Well you should read comic first haha😂
Oh god this movie
"What does she see in that man?"
- Batman, who is not a fan of Steve Trevor either.
I didn't watch it yet but by the thumbnail seem we share the same opinion mostly about this film.
I watched this movie to give a chance to wonder woman but it made me hate her even more for years until 2017, thank god for that movie.
Steve Trevor is... an acquired taste, to be sure.
nah he isnt... they did him dirty in this movie
@@knightheaven8992 Yeah, they did, didn't they...
Me learning more Wonder Woman and her supporting cast before i ever saw this movie, I did not like it
'wow, how feminist! You don't need a man.'
Seconds later....baby born from "Zeus's" lightning....😐😐😐
It was Athena not Zeus dumby
Your pic completely describes you
Hey great video love your reaction your is hades going to be hot made me laugh because in some stories he’s the most attractive out of I’m Zeus and the water dude you know Percy Jackson’s dad
You seemed to have missed this throughout the movie but wherever Ares goes rage and violence follows. I think its even mentioned in this movie. II know at the least its demonstrated in this movie. f you noticed turn the blood moon scene Ares walks past some dogs and they instantly start attacking each other. As well as a solider who is just chilling only to go into a fit of range and stabs a rat. This is why the president is so aggressive.
This movie's writing aged sooooo POORLY... But the soundtrack is still awesome. The Wonder Woman theme of this flick is easily the best and most memorable she's ever had!
Ok Megan, it was 2009, we hadn't realized as a collective that wimmins were people, and not objects for our sexual desires. That writing is very much of THAT era
🤣🤣🤣 it really is
@MegMage Reacts You should look into the Golden Age era of Wonder Woman comics from the 30's and 40's. Unlike Batman and Superman who were very much of that post depression era, Wonder Woman was full of bdsm imagery, in fact tying her up actually removed her power's. And this bdsm imagery wasn't treated as anything taboo, unusual or as a fetish, it was just out in open, normalized in the context of the stories and Wonder Woman universe. Nowadays it's so obvious when you look at those old images especially knowing the creator/writer of the Wonder Woman comic's William Moulton Marston, bdsm "interests" in their personal life, heavlily injecting it into the earlier Wonder Woman comics, plus she was snarky, I miss snarky sassy Wonder Woman. He himself is an interesting individual
@emersonplays What? What are you talking about? Who are you talking about?
That is weird, i remember 2009 very Cleary, and i never got that
This movie's Steve Trevor is possibly the worst iteration of the character in all of Wonder Woman media.
Please, Diana just give me one chance 😍😭
I love this movie, this movie is so awesome the action in this one is almost non-stop especially in the final act 🔥 and this is a really very underrated animated movie, also there's some things I think this animated movie did better than the 2017 live action movie and there are other things I think the 2017 live action movie did better than this animated movie actually a lot of things the live action movie did better than this movie but overall I love both 🙌
The best introduction to Wonder Woman in the DCAU, and the worst introduction to Steve Trevor lol. There’s not exactly a natural introduction to Wonder Woman in the DCAU unfortunately. Many of the characters don’t get proper introductions and even lack solo projects, but hopefully that’ll change soon. To get more of Wonder Woman and a better side of Steve Trevor, I highly recommend checking out the live action Wonder Woman show starring Lynda Carter. He’s not only more handsome but also a lot better characterized as far as I remember anyways.
This ANIMATED MOVIE is closest to the origin story portrayed from the ORIGINAL COMIC, when WONDER WOMAN was created.
No God involved in Wonder Woman's origin except Hermes, who gave her speed, and was one of the group four or five Greek Goddesses that gave Diana her gifts (like Cinderella, it's an old myth).
Wonder Woman has no father, unless her mother lied to her.
The Ares, Zeus or God of the Underworld links with her mother are unique to different re-tellings, in cartoons, movies and some later comics.
ares is the god of the worst aspects of war in actually greek mythology
Writing is ok, see there are a lot of women who want to be a mother and have a loving Family. U got a little toxic trait there.
Shut up
I haven’t seen all that many versions of him tbh but this is by far the worst Steve Trevor I’ve seen. He’s pretty unlikable for most of the movie.
The writing is like, peak Whedon-esque. BLEGH.
There are 2 established Wonder Woman origins. The first is made of clay, and the second is child of Zeus. Both are the ripped off whole cloth from Greek mythology. I prefer the child of Zeus origin as it lines up very easily with my knowledge of the original myths.
You have to watch X-Men(1992-1997), since he will soon have a sequel
Yes 👍🏿👍🏿
Steve should be cancelled.
It's worth looking up original Steve Trevor and seeing just how completely different he is from this toxic horndog.
The author, his wife and their girlfriend are really interesting.
The creator of the lie detector test wanted to come up with a female super hero that was psychologically designed to promote strong women. Blah blah into bondage blah blah.
Wonder woman is super interesting