Fuji X-T3 Autofocus and James Bond: Focus Pulls and Eye AF WORK!
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- On the most circuitous route ever to Photokina, we start in England and move on to Switzerland, where I remember that as a kid I wanted to be James Bond. Which has what, exactly, to do with the X-T3 and AF?
Well, this show was a narrow escape involving a pile of Aston Martins, including three development cars for the DB 11.
I can't begin to tell you how challenging it is for me to do reviews from the road. I usually take weeks or MONTHS to sort through what I'm thinking, and then spend days editing, doing pick-up shots -- you know the drill. Still, what's clear to me is that the X-T3's AF is excellent: Eye AF in continuous mode works well and you CAN get smooth focus pulls - as long as you futz with the parameters and frame the shot to minimize distractions.
Bottom line? The X-T3's AF sets a new standard in crop sensor camera AF, and provides all the AF capability needed for what we do at 3BMEP.
But I still don't like futzing.
And I'm still not quite sure about the linear motors.
All talking head segments shot with Eye AF in continuous focus mode.
Aargh - forgot to mention the Rennveg scene shot in Etern, light grade.
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Please note that you are using the Fuji 35mm F1.4 which is one of the worst when it comes to AF, very slow. If you don't need the extra light stop, you could use the F2 version which is way faster, silent etc.
This would be perfect with IBIS
Fujifilm watches...
Guys, we've been back a few days and remain FAR behind. Sorry for not being as responsive as usual. I think I'm going to have to mark all of my notifications as "read" and just start fresh from this point forward. But thank you all for making such wonderful contributions to the community here.
How you narrate is a godsent👏🏿
Lover Of Tech 🙏🏻
So true.
I made my 10 & 13 year old sons watch a episode of 3 blind men.....& an elephant.....not for the camera/photo content, but purely to show & talk to them about presentation skills! (True story), you are doing an ace job, keep it up!
Lawrence Dunn such a true story. It’s a skill and gift at the same time, something you can learn and tech but also have as a natural ability. Great stuff
Welcome 2 switzerland
@4:15 Honestly I would have switched focus as well if I was sitting and talking with you. 😅
FoodTechLife Hah!
HAHAA!
i love the background @0:48, it looks like you're standing in front of a painting!
It’s just that kind of place!
Chad11491 and I am able to see that every day. I live in Rapperswil. ;-)
terry breedlove Yea and that’s a bad thing.
Not an easy thing to do....you pulled off a compelling and entertaining video in a short time without trendy transitions etc....very very pleasant to watch..looking forward to the Photokena stuff!~ Have Fun
i agree 💯
hi. Can you help me with a problem I've been having. Recording interviews (seated subject) using X-T3 with 35mm f2. AF set to eye detect. The focus 'pulses' during the interview making the footage almost unusable. It doesn't focus behind the subject, just a slight blip then back to the eye. The image doesn't really go out of focus but its noticeable to me. The AF-C setting is _2 sensitivity -5 speed. What did I do wrong? I also notice my AF-S setting won't work. the only way to achieve that is AF-M and press the AF-L button to lock focus. Any advice really appreciated. Thanks.
The colour on this is absolutely stunning. Loved watching it on my Macbook Pro screen. Amazing work.
Europe is what circuitous routes are all about. There is SO much to see and experience. Make the most of it! 👍
nsw72 At so many levels!
I love how the clouds shifted in the background at the start ;)
Mind control.
Can you please explain again how to get smooth focus pull in video mode. I did not get it. It’s to fast and it’s flattering.
Thank you
0:50 Nice morph-cut, if not for the clouds I wouldn't have noticed.
Not only at this position. 1:38 ist more obvious. Some more following…
1:37 Oh no, the sky is falling!!!!
Higgins2001 ah, do you see what Hugh and Claudia have done here. The ‘X’ shape vapour trail in a Fuji product review. It’ is subtle! The blue of the sky and the pinks on the buildings looking very tasty!
How much editing did you do before releasing this? 1 minuets 40 seconds in the sky moves dramatically and I thought it was my eyes! Otherwise a great video.
A lot. ;)
Ver 3 update for this body really messed the autofocus up bad. It hunts like a dog; if anything moves or comes between you and your subject; or behind your subject. The camera will jump to the new visual.. Leave it off and focus with your own eyes.
Wayne Dupuis wow. Anyone else update? What has your experience been?
1.4 lenses have terrible motors. Looking at this video i can tell with 100% accuracy that Samsung nx1 with kit lens have better autofocus
Tomas Av. I’d say they have good enough motors for stills, suboptimal for video. 😎
I am a Nikon shooter with my D610 and I am considering going mirrorless mainly to reduce size and weight in lenses. I currently have these lenses: Sigma art 35, Nikkor 50 and 85 1.8G, Tokina 17-35 and Nikkor 24-120.
Photography is a serious hobby but not my job. I do mainly studio, portrait and real estate photography. I am tempting to switch to the new fuji x-t3. Would I loose quality going to Fuji? I also considered Sony A7iii but lenes are too expensive and Z6 does not attract me by the reviews I have seen.
Sebastián Torres Servicios Inmobiliarios In the real world, you will not lose image quality switching to the X-T3. It’s a great system!
Thanks!
That one shot with the tower in the background probably tells all you need to know about having (or in this case NOT having) a flip screen...
Sony is the af benchmark? That is Canons crown unfortunately (because they wont deliver anything else) 4:52
Saw your post and questions on your Patreon page regarding the X-T3's AF and video performance and the "if only" comments about the X-H1. I'm in full agreement with you on this point, Hugh. Which begs the question: why did Fujiflm release the X-H1 when it did, only 6 months prior to the X-T3? I've thought about this particular question quite a lot and the most important reason I can come up with is...they *had* to. They had to have a stiff and strong enough body with IBIS on-market when the Fujiflm 200mm f/2.0 and XF mount MK Cine lenses were released for sale, which happened before the X-T3 was announced/released. No matter as far as I am concerned: the X-H1 puts out the highest outright absolute image quality I've seen from any interchangeable lens X-cam, which is really saying something. Whether it outresolves the X-T3 will remain to be seen, but the overall image quality & detail I get from the X-H1 for stills is just....stunning. It's GFX50S-like. And I love its body, grip, controls, ergos, shutter, and handling. I think once Fujifilm puts the BSI sensor and X-Processor 4 from the X-T3 into the X-H2, we are going to have an *_absolutely spectacular_* camera on our hands. Have fun at Photokina! All best, Stephen
Your ND filter probably doesn't cut IR anywhere near as well as it does the visible spectrum, hence the weird color shifts...
Hi. Regards the comment at the start - Color shift. IRND issue? If it is, as you probably know, different IRND's perform differently over different sensors. There are a few n the market that seem to have made great strides although the only two that come to mind might be TrueND and Firecrest - I'm not so up to date. And maybe it wasn't that after all.
Did you visit the Leica store as you have stayed at Rennweg? A pity you didn't post your travel itinerary in advance to meet the locals, but wait maybe that's why😊
It's a system that has character - especially for my alternate view of the world. Thing is I can't get past the earlier models which is good for my bank balance - bad for Fujifilm.
Al Green - Light Through Glass Nothing wrong with that! :)
If I have to choose between this and the XH1 - considering body robustness and also primary use would be photography - which one would you recommend and why?
Thank you.
So with the proper amount of futzing the X-T3 is okay for a stationary video set-up. If you are on the go a gimbal in place of IBIS? Or wait for X-U2. Speaking of on the go, nice to you get out of your comfort zone and drop a video on the road.
What about a speedbooster to canon adapter to remove cropping and allow a full range of OIS lenses? Would autofocus still work?
Speaking of x series, did you let the x shape jet condensates behind you move on purpose? :) 1:39
Sinan Isik It’s jet lag. ;)
Moved prior to that also :/
0:50 The sky moving behind you tripped me out for a second.
Duuuude!
I know I'll miss the IBIS for sure. Just wondering, how much would a stabilised lens like the 18-55mm f/2.8-4 helps in video?
Somewhat - but not nearly as good as both!
5:00 Eye AF tracks windows when Claudia's face disappears? Nice demo. Again, EYE AF.
I thought Canon's dual pixel was the benchmark?
Aaahhh! You have been to Rapperswil where I live. If I would have known that you are coming i would have come to say hi.
Hope you had fun in Rapperswil. If you have a picture of rapperswil make sure to tag it with #visitrapperswil on Instagram. ;-) Enjoy Photokina.
We did - thanks!
Great video. Looking forward to more videos
XT3 was the result of a slow and steady focus from fujifilm. You notice all these RUclips videos praising the XT3 now?
It's funny because most of these people were the same people to criticize Fujifilm for making a subpar camera, but a generation behind Panasonic and Sony. I am happy for Three Blind Men though, because they have always tried to keep a positive influence and he has always stated that the XT2 was in his heart, but not quite there yet as a camera he needed. Notice how his vlog has increased dramatically in quality since they've used the XT3. They've even stated multiple times that they loved the camera but it wasn't for the work they needed. Apologies forgiven about the AF hunting and please continue with the exceptional narrative you provide.
In fact, we should all be happy that Fujifilm has stepped their game up and were actually the first to pioneer 4K60P at an affordable price. Thank you Fujifilm for listening to people that had genuine feedback and ignoring the Sony fullframe, IBIS, and technology trolls.
Maybe if you do a meetup or workshop in Boston one day, I can finally get to have a conversation with you.
I like to think our videos have gotten better because WE've gotten better. :)
The highlights from 0:48 onwards are not terribly good, sharp and no transitions...not bad AF, considering
Enjoy your video like usual, your charm and charisma has added so much value to this. Just got my X-T3 and absolutely loving it.
How is the autofocus/eye detection working with stills? I am contemplating switching to Fuji XT-3 from m4/3. No video work, mostly portrait, street and event photography. Sometimes background is busy. Does it mean the focus will be lost? I have no blind elephants who’d do the futzing for me, the camera function would have to be reliable.
Pretty darned good. Haven't had it side by side with the a7 III, but I'd guess they're quite close for stills.
As an amateur street photographer I liked the X-T1 because of its stealthiness, but didn’t like the continuous focusing (it back focused most of the time). The X-T2 is so much better. I’m not sure why I would get the X-T3...as a new subscriber I will follow your videos to find out.
Welcome!
No ibis with a brand new body that touts it's video capabilities is a deal breaker for me. If Sony could fit really good ibis in my two year old Sony compact I paid $385 bucks for so can Fuji on their XT 3 or no sale to me. Plus it is not full frame. Another deal breaker in the market segment this competes in. Z6 or A7iii are better for me.
I like the depth of field you get from standard full frame. I take flower and plant photos all the time. I have a full frame and APSC crop sensor Nikon. Using the same lens on both I just like the look I get from full frame. And I feel no interest in going up to Medium size. I used to have medium format film cameras and preferred full frame 35mm film. My 38 year old OM2n is still my favorite camera. I may buy one of the new Reflex 35mm film cameras. Removable back. Something needed in a film 35mm. I know off the subject but I am excited about trying the new Ektachrome finally released for sale yesterday. I love projecting huge pictures of the Grand Canyon and such with slide film. Even my OLED big screen does not have the color of slide film projected on a screen.
Thanks for the very informative review, iam doing pro jobs with my xt2 and love it, do u think it's worth to upgrade for the xt3
Isnt ibis intentionally left out of cameras that are more video centric? I thought if you're using a camera with a gimbal the ibis can counteract negatively with it. Please let me know if I'm wrong, as I'm considering this camera for video, in particular for use in nature.
F ab You are not wrong. IBIS was left out of the Panasonic GH5s for this very reason. But with this written - as I said - we’re willing to trade off ultimate smoothness for smallness: we’ll live with what the best IBIS can give us, rather than go the extra mile with a gimbal (at least, 95% of the time). The other 5% we have a Sony a6300. :)
If you have time, visit Carolus Thermen in Aachen, close to Cologne. Its really nice swimming/Sauna area with mineral water
Missed this post (and the opportunity) but maybe next time. Thanks for the tip!
What bag is that on the beginning? Looks like an Ona?
Dunno, sorry.
Three Blind Men and An Elephant Productions thanks :) loving your content!
So in terms of AF effectiveness and ease of use, how would you compare the AF system in the xt3 to the Sony a7iii system?
Allen Schneider comparable, with the X-T3 having the benefit of Eye AF in continuous video.
Thanks for sharing bud - keep doing what you do!
Thanks for watching!
Do you see what Hugh and Claudia have done here? The ‘X’ shape vapour trail in a Fuji product review. It is subtle! The blue of the sky and the pinks on the buildings looking very tasty! Welcome to Europe!
Thank you for the warm welcome, Rupert!
Canon is the benchmark for autofocus, especially video, not sony lol. I wish it was Fuji, this xt3 is awesome, just got one today. I will probably just use it in manual focus with peaking, the AF is way too jumpy, even with every possible setting adjusted. Not a good look for video.
Really? Everyone says it's amazing
Are you serious? I'm about to get one after endless nights of deciding between it and the A7iii. But now that you mention the autofocus, this got be back to square one. I somehow suck at manual focus so really rely on autofocus.
@@maruwaanmoses "1DX II has about 12.7 million phase detection pixels while X-T3 has "only" 2.16 million" unless you are doing professional videography, I wouldnt worry about it too much
@@TJIzzy Thanks TJ. I shoot wedding videos and commercials for small companies. So I'm starting to wonder now...
@@maruwaanmoses xt3 doesnt have tracking af. If it's on face detect & someone turns their head, it will dramatically & abruptly change focus. Skin tones are hard to fix in 8 bit color, but I bet the a7iii would probably be your best option.
Which lens did you use? I know the older 1.4 lens aren't as fast.
the 35/1.4!
Ironic that the Jason Bond ad was the intro to this vid. Enjoy your travels.
use 18-55 with stab for better shot
1:35 what is happening with the sky? :-o That's pretty spooky! - Anyway, thank you so much for sharing your knowledge! Highly appreciated! :-)
Mark Krause Flow cut. 😊
Haha, yay, I recognized this later. :-D
at f1.4 can 4k@24 video keep the nearest eye always in focus for a closeup portrait framing ( eye in focus but nose blurred out) thanks
amanieux there are many DOF calculators out there, but I like the pCAM app on the Apple App Store.
@@3BMEP hi, too much drink is bad for your liver, my question was not about DOF calculator, it was about xt3 eye AF : can it keep the nearest eye in focus in video at f1.4 ? thanks
Can't wait for your Photokina experience.
Hi Hugh, or should I call you James, welcome to Europe, at least this little bit, called England is still in Europe!, for now that is. Nice to know you are over here with us, I live just over the road in Cambridge. The lens you using has become my go-to lens most of the time, except when I need the long telephoto or macro lens (the 80mm), the focusing speed and accuracy on my XT2 is so so fast! never misses, never fails, the images are always so clear and sharp. I think that it is a very good example of just how variable lens performance is, while the 80mm macro is nearly as fast also the 50- 140, most of the other, older lenses are quite different, particularly the 56mm F1.2, it sounds like its using an old lawnmower engine!. I think it is only fair that you have to spend some time 'futzing' with settings, to get the best out of an XT3 will require some care and consideration, each and every lens is going to be different!, it can't know what you want, but it can deliver it, if you do the right things!. I have been saying lately that I won't be getting an XT3 just yet, not because I don't like it, not because it is somewhat better than the XT2, but simply because I feel that I still have so much to learn on the XT2, I've only had it for two years/8,000 shots, and I only do stills, I am still having to dump more than three quarters of the shots I take because I keep making small mistakes in settings or handling. I have handled an XT3 and look forward to being able to transition quickly when the time comes because it feels almost the same, (better grip), but until I get a better keeper rate the onus is on me, not the camera!. I still can hardly believe what its capable of!. Cheers, Richard.
Richard, enjoy your X-T2 just as you have planned - it’s a good plan!
"This dog will hunt" I laughed so hard!
nice image - shaky stuff -
Well what brilliant examples of differential auto focus and image sharpness, during your pieces to camera Hugh. Impressive and attention grabbing.
So glad you liked it!
Thanks man, that;s what I wanted ti hear!
Apologies if this is a bonehead question, but did you change your flicker frequency to 50 Hz from the US 60 Hz? Greart content. Thank you.
Not a boneheaded question, and no I didn’t!
Ditto when I go to the States; changing the frame rate makes a huge difference under lights.
Still in Rappeswil?
I was about to say..."England, Switzerland....dude are you even going to Photokina or is this more of a European Vacay?"
Hah! T-14 hours to our first press conference and counting - never mind the editing last midnight last night and final edit this morning beginning at 5:30am! :)
Doesnt quite look on par with sony eye focus and face dectect.
Maybe someone will get to a direct side by side before I do - looking forward to it!
The Autofocus still isn't there yet. But i love the improvements that were made. We need to be able to customize it like the sony or new lenses will work better with it.
Farther along than given credit for. Granted this was done with a slow AF lens and before the firmware update. I own the A7III and the X-T3. Sony is still #1, but the X-T3 eye AF is damn good. This video not a great representation of its abilities. My biggest issue has always been the lack of IBIS on these cameras.
0:49 1:38 that hidden cut. At the first time I thought WATAHEKK ?
;)
Actually the autofocus still lags for stills vs Sony or Canon
Would be great for you to post some tests!
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Yep, that magenta cast looks odd.
dude, dont velvia your videos. doesnt look good ;)
B SAF1993 I learn by doing, but I don’t disagree. 🖖🏻
X-T3 + Zhiyun-Tech Crane v2 or GH5s?
mick2d2 Depends on whether or not you need unlimited recording time.
Thanks!
Very good. 2.Things: 1. How are you getting that video so sharp? Is that straight out of the camera, into the video editor and uploaded? My videos never look that good! Is it me, my camera, my import settings haha. 2. How much of a factor would lack of IBIS affect your decision to use the camera as your first choice - I ask because the handheld shots at the Aston Martin place were a little shaky. Thanks for posting, informative and enjoyable as always.
For #1 Helpful if you let us know what you're working with to compare and assist.
1) 4K with the 35/1.4; 2) Yes. 3) Greatly. :)
Jian Ma Thanks. Just a general observation. I’m using a budget DSLR and my videos just never look crisp but that’s probably me as well.
@@danmccarthy2906 if you don't mind trying, a good cell phone typically produces better video than a budget dslr (in day time) since they are equipped with 4k
AF looks pretty good but video needs IBIS or some sort of stabilization.
Mitchell Rothenberg Agreed!
Plenty of fuji lenses have IS
AcidicDelusion That’s good since no IBIS in this model.
Angry, are you watching, this is how you make an awesome video.
No, he is too busy trashing Nikon lol
Sometimes you need a little punk rock.
Leave angry alone 😠😂😂😂
Everyone has their own style. No fluff, no BS is Angry Photographers style.
j p I doubt the "style" is what puts people off, but the firm opinions that do not allow for different priorities and different methods. Everything is a binary choice, no options of a gradient as in real life, very bad or very good being the only views of the world. The proof, as always, is in the results and you can't point to a single image he has done that you would allow on your gallery wall. He is a gear hobbyist and not a photographer so distills the sum total of a camera down to great or trash without allowing for his criteria has little relation to how a creative photographer creates. People using cameras he has trashed have created images that far surpass any of his snapshots. Using that criteria of results, he is wrong , dead wrong most of the time. His latest targe for hate is the z7 but it is surely doing to be used very effectively, having a lot going for it, and build quality at D850 or higher level, made in the assembly facility in Sendai that is devoted to top pro cameras, the D5. Even the D850 is made in Thailand. In trashing is because of having a single XQD he misleads the viewer about the significant superiority of that card system over his preferred SD slots. Mean Time Between Failure for that card system is BETTER than 2 SD cards, and ignores the fact that using that card allows for the ultimate in backup, 1000megabit per second wireless real time transfers over a 660-foot radius. Why have any card removeable when a pro can and direct transfer faster than a card reader full files directly to the editing computer? He is being dishonest for not mentioning that nor how that card allows clearing the buffer in 1 second resulting in a greater throughput than the camera he is pushing. These are just examples of errors and misleading statements.
Hugh's reviews are "focused" on results, as creative creates with the hardware instead of details in isolation that overall makes no connection between a feature and results. A camera is a system much more than a collection of parts to be judged individually. The real value of a camera is how little it enters into the creative process.
1:38 time traveling, hold that thought.
Oh yah: flow!
Autofocus seems amazing for both stills and video, image quality too!! Great video! 😁
So XT3 or A7iii?
They are completely different cameras.If you plan on keeping it for a while, more than 1.5 years than definitely, the XT3 is the better investment because it is built to last, another of magnitude more rugged and reliable. The a7III hasa FF sensor which has some advantages for many types of images but its lenses are much more expensive so the total cost of ownership will be a lot higher even if the bodies are not that much different in price. The Sony is better in low light while the Fuji has far better ergonomics
Stan SPb This is total crap! sony cameras will last just as other Canikon cameras will, my sony A7 1st gen is still going on and I dont baby my equipment. So do all of us a favour, dont talk something you either dont know or have experience with. Much more expensive? not really, especially when you factor equivalence. Ergonomics? well thats subjective, for a hybrid shooter (video + stills) I prefer Sony, for stills only I can relate if some people prefer Fuji. And yes, I have the Fuji and Sony system.
No IBIS, no buy.
A decent stabilizer and problem solved.
Circuitous routes are always the best routes
Bruce Crossan “Not all those who wander are lost.” :)
I really loved this video. Well done
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Great shots. Love the quality.
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Great video as always, I am so excited about the x-t3 but something in the back of my head tells me I should pull the trigger on a gh5 as my first video camera for paid video work. Should I worry about the video "only" being 4:2:0? I don't know what it is probably the fact that the gh5 is a proven workhorse, sorry rant over :)
make sure you factor in the editing time and computer power with the higher rates
for the gh5 or x-t3?
I don’t think you need to worry for anything delivered via the web!
You were supposed to make this easier for me :/
I don't think you should be worried about 420, you can always get an external recorder if a job calls for 422. Yes H265 is really hard on PC's, but you can simply convert it to prores.
Those morph cuts really mess with the clouds 😮 Great video though!
Jet lag messes me up worse than the morph cuts! :)
some body trying to be Jeff Goldbloom here ?
I told you about the ND. Get a Heliopan one!
You did!
Yes when I saw that you packed Syrp NDs in your packing video. B+W and Heliopan both make excellent vario NDs that are perfect for video because they both have hard stops so you never over crank them and get a X pattern. I used the B+W one on my M5 when I was doing street in New York with a Canon 50mm f1.4 LTM. Image quality from those pictures is really amazing. No color shift to speak of. But that’s film. I actually shot a 25min short film with the GH5s and the Heliopan vario ND (not the slim version, the slim version doesn’t have filter threats) and the image quality and color reproduction was outstanding. It didn’t produce any fog when shooting into the sun, unlike the one from Syrp. A bit of flare but nothing extensive or unpleasant. One advantage the Heliopan (again the not slim version) filter has over the B+W is that you’re simply able to use the lens cap of the lens your using (if you’re not stepping up), since it has a filter threat the same size the lens/filter has natively. The B+W one is one our two mm wider to avoid vignetting. Meaning you’d need a larger lens cap for the same lens. Hui this has gotten extensive. I could send you some images from my trip to New York with the B+W and some screen grabs of my GH5s Tests with the Heliopan filter. I also called Heliopan a few time because I had some questions I wanted answered after the Syrp situation and they where very forthcoming. Won’t help you much since there based in Germany. But it great to know when a company has personal at their phones who can answer nerdy questions.
VariTimo I’ll have to get in touch with them!