Sony a6600 vs Fujifilm X-T3 Review: King of compact cameras?
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- Tony Northrup reviews the $1,400 Sony a6600 (sdp.io/a6600) mirrorless camera vs the Fujifilm X-T3 (sdp.io/XT3), the Sony a6400 (sdp.io/a6400) and the Fujifilm X-H1 (sdp.io/XH1). Get 20% off everything at northrup.photo with the coupon code 'ihaterain'
I always wonder how many percent of camera buyers are actually "vloggers". Maybe it is a number like 0.5%?
Jason Levine Hm I’m sure most people stopped buying cameras for vacation since the iPhone came out
it's actually closer to 0.01%
Was thinking exactly this!
The thing is that most camera reviews are on RUclips and those are pretty much the only people that really vlog a lot. So it seems like a whole lot of people complain about it, but in reality there are so many other photographers and videographers that enjoy Fujifilm‘s screen design and I really hope they don‘t change it just because of vloggers complaining.
That flippy screen is very handy not only for vlogging you idiots. And ibis is just awesome for pictures too, not only for video.
I'm thinking people will have made up their minds before hearing any evidence. Lol
Listening to Tony and Chelsea's opinions is not exactly evidence Omar
What else is new 😏
I've learned that you can't listen to youtubers if you really want to make an informed decision. Best thing to do is to borrow or rent the equipment. I've used Sony for over a decade and after I tried the Xt-2, I KNEW Sony was entirely wrong for me personally (on so many levels that it's a waste of youtube space to describe). But I didn't hear what I needed to hear from any of the youtubers I've watched.
it's true. but those kind of review videos are usefull for some people who are beginner or who can't try those cameras because not shop selling the cameras around (in my case).
That's why i like advices, point of views, comparaisons between cameras to see pros and cons that we will not see before buying.
For exemple the Q button on X-H1, X-t30 etc...
Still looking for my future camera lol a graal quest it seems...the problem is to find honest reviews(not people who are paid by a brand to destroy another brand camera image or to push the sells of the brand the youtuber is paid for...
By the way i like your review..always funny...and i know that you think everyone should be able to choose himself...it's true when u are enough good or have notions in photography but for someone who want to buy a first hybrid and want the best for his need and for the price he can pay it's good to have advices...
I love how people want a flip out screen to take selfies with a $1,400 camera. Selfies seem like the LOWEST priority when buying an expensive camera.
For real. I actually even get a bit annoyed that people spend time discussing vlogging potential in a review of a premium camera. Vlogging is at about the very bottom of the photography/videography totem pole in a close race with bathroom-mirror-selfies and sending pictures of your mole to your doctor.
I‘ve always preferred Fujifilm‘s screen. Vlogging is literally the only capability the screen lacks while doing great in every other situation, in landscape AND portrait orientation. I think the reason so „many“ people complain about no flip screen is because we‘re on RUclips and those people making reviews are pretty much the only people that vlog. But the truth is that the majority of photographers and videographers don‘t film themselves at all. I really hope Fujifilm keeps their screen design, no matter how many RUclipsrs complain about it, because there are so many other people that (I bet) really enjoy their display the way it is.
untrue. this screen is for monitoring purpose when you dont want to bring a dedicated monitor along. it can be very convenient.
Joseph A you're confusing selfies with monitoring during vlogging, and there's really no excuse since it's laid out redundantly in this review here which you presumably just watched, and, well, everywhere else online as well
oh man, YOU'RE SO CLEVER. That's exactly what Tony Northrup is doing in this video... taking selfies, right? What about protecting the LCD from scratches?!?! Is that also taking selfies in your "smart" opinion?!?!?? My god!!!!!
it seems like fuji was watching your review and came out with XT4, everything you mentioned is fixed in the new XT4
A flip screen is not only for selfies. I use it all the time when I do product photography. I get in front of the camera and position the product while looking the live view on my screen.
Yeah, agreed.
just use remote operation on your phone or ipad
@@jeezygarceezy
Can you explain what this is? There's a way to send a feed of what the camera sees to a different device's screen? How does that work? 🤔
I don’t vlog, but one of the reasons I got an a6100 for the flip-up screen was to be able to frame myself when filming guitar videos. So yeah, it’s useful for a lot more than taking selfies.
Seems like an ad for sony..
No, you just have to look at the facts and see how Sony overtook all others in recent years when it's about cameras. Canon and Fuji fell asleep
I have been a huge fan of yours till date. But this video of yours was disappointing. It seemed more like 'Sony Paid Video' to be honest. All praises in favor of Sony whereas Fuji was ignored a lot throughout. I personally own Fuji XT3 and so I jumped to see this video. But Alas! you were partial with Fuji. I would just like to inform your audience that Fuji XT3 is such an amazing camera. One can only feel the real joy after handling it on their own. One just cannot ignore Fuji once you start using it. I am not against Sony A6600 (It is great Camera as well), But Somehow I didn't liked the way Fuji was showcased in this video. Thanks for reading.
No, He wasn't. Sony is just all-round better camera than the Fuji. I think he tried his best to give Fuji a fair chance to compete. Watch the review again.
x-t3 is a beauty. I just love to be with her...
Xt4 now
Weirdo
just put 4k 60, and 10bit internally and its over! come on sony, i know you can do better!
Was this really a versus video?
Seems more like the first 10 minutes are 100% paid for by Sony and the remainder has a few brief comparisons between the two. With some look at all my camera clips thrown in.
+ 70% of time about sony.
Yes, this is a versus video about a just-released camera compared to a very well-known and reviewed alternative. It would make no sense to spend the same amount of time on the details of both. It’s an interesting concept that a mixture of positive and negative comments about the 6600 must be “100% paid for by Sony”, whereas a long list of specific differences (many favorable to the XT3) is “a few brief comparisons”.
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Sony biased video
This was perhaps the most useful review, especially for those on the fence between the Sony and the Fuji. I ended up going with the Sony 6600. I can see the attraction of the Fuji, especially at it reminds of cameras of old, like my Nikon FE2 for which I have such fond memories and learned on, but I time waits for no one and I felt Sony the modern APC that should be more camera than I'd ever need and is smaller than the Fuji, a major reason for having an APC.
It depends on your hand size. Too small is not comfortable at all.
@@a6893_ its big enough comparing to gr3, and its much comfortable griping to fuji
Fuji for life! The X-T3 is a beast!!! Specially with the new 80mm f2.8 Macro prime! Sharpness for days!
@@p3rrypm Thats one thing it doesn't have :( Unfortunately
Thanks to the huge discount I was able to buy x-t3 finally (sold a6400). Felt like I had x-t3 all my life, ergonomics is awesome and just incompatible with Sony aps-c. Image rendition are simply brilliant and 10 bit video makes huge difference, very easy to render and very forgiving (especially when you don't have a chance to create a good lighting). Not to hate Sony, but their aps-c line felt more like an elaborate expensive toy, rather than proper camera. Fuji on the other hand feels like completely competent pro-body, with functions that makes so much sense that I can't understand how I lived without it before, lol
I'm about to do the same haha, how is the lowlight on the xt3 compared to the a6400?
I did the same sold my Sony a 6400 and bought Fujifilm xt3!
@@shahrinshahriar4836 Hi dude. I have a question. I myself want to buy fujifilm x-t3, now I use sony a6000. i process raw on my ipad pro in lightroom adobe. please tell me i can do it with fujifilm x-t3? I heard there are some compatibility problems of this camera with this program.
@@abercrombie2684 actually I use Windows but I edited few videos in final cut pro, didn't face any issue,if you talk about photos, didn't face any issue too.
X-T3 all day
Was debating with the xt3 and a6600 then I realized how expensive fujifilm lenses are. Made my choice easier. Also if your spending that much on a single lens mine as well purchase a full frame
The Fuji reminds me of the “Fujica” aperture priority 35mm SLR I learned on. Very interested in these now.
I don't think the 4:00 shot is blurry due to the lack of stabilization, I think it's blurry because Chelsea was moving.
And it’s actually good for 1/30th
I grew up using cameras with no stabilization. When stabilized lenses came along, it was liberating. Yes, back in the old days, 1/30th of a second was too slow. To get sharp images, you needed to carry tripods or flashes or simply avoid taking images inside. Think of the reciprocal rule as a limitation on unstabilized camera systems, not some general rule for all photography. Having an entire new area of the exposure triangle opened up gives you many new creative opportunities. Personally, I prefer having one IBIS system in the camera body and then be able to use unstabilized lenses. Also, I strongly suspect that the combination of lens and body stabilization is even better.
When I bought a6400 I did look into X-T3 and Canon but I went with a6400 because it had no limit 4K recording, even at 4K all the AF works, flip-up screen, great AF, etc. It had a lot of things that
I wanted and it was not that expensive. Since I came from G8 so I really miss IBIS in G8 but I love my a6400.
Fuji 💪💪💪💪
You are obsessed with full frame and continue to largely write off anything below F.F. The good F.F lenses cost a fortune and are prohibitive to most. You can't really just say 'stretch to an A7III', that means a huge jump in lens outlay. An A7III and a really average lens? I would rather the XT-3 with the top drawer fuji lenses.
Does anyone else use a rangefinder camera while being left-eyed? There are dozens of us; dozens!
I feel like it keeps my nose out of my hand's way when using back controls.
I don't have an answer to your question, but I am both left-eye dominant, and my right eye has much worse distant vision. I did recently tried shooting right-eyed, however, for the first time, and I was surprised that I could see the EVF fine. It felt weird, like reversing fork and knife hands, but the closeness rendered my vision problems moot. I seemed to be able to make the adjustment. (note: I'm guessing an optical view finder would give the same results as the EVF I used.)
I'm a Sony shooter but I'm disappointed with the A6600's sensor. For a "flagship" it should have a newer sensor instead of the same old technology from the A6000.
It’s not the same sensor. It’s much newer but is still 24 megapixels.
IDE’s warm up to it if it was 999
And have a faster shutter speed
It just looks bad because Sony doesn't know how to make it look better out of the box... ;). I switched to Fuji and zero regrets. Fuji is a pleasure to use and doesn't waste time in post like Sony.
The Fuji X T3 is ART in every way. There are lots of native high quality OIS lenses for it, that won't tire you out before the end of a shoot, so no in body stabilization is not an issue. The battery inadequacy is an issue, if you shoot a lot of 4K, but not so much for the still shooter. The EVF alone is one of the best out there and Fuji support is second to none.
Fuji's best lens the 16-55 have no OIS. So you end up with absolutely no stabilisation at all.
Fujifilm is for creating Art, Sony is...well, just a boxy camera, huge friggin expensive Lenses, and by no means the same quality bodies, handling, like a X-T3.
@@TVe200 You know the X-H1 has IBIS right?, It's a phenomenal camera for the money!
@@TVe200 who said that is a best Fuji lens?🤔
@@12scarz9 it is the best normal zoom. Most people take 80% of their pictures with a zoom in that range (equal 24-70 on full frame).
Quick question, how does the X-H1 compare to newer cameras in 2019? Due to the price drop, is it a worth purchase for the IBIS for stills in exchange for the worse auto focus over the X-T3?
Spend so much money to take selphies? Seriously?If you want selphies use your smartphone
The (nearly) perfect vloggin' camera is Olympus OMD EM5 mark III. From a good source.
Well, I guess I'm not gonna switch to X-T3 soon. I'm 50\50 photo video shooter, and after more than a year of savings I initially bought Sony a6400, which is a great camera, but due to some tech issues and really annoying sensor dust attraction, it wasn't suitable for me. I was on hurry with my purchase, because at the time I needed to film an interview with elderly person, which had a lot of health issues, and could probably, you know, die. And due to possibility of that interview be the final moments of the life of that person, I wanted to film that in rather good quality etc.
When a6400 launched it was ridiculously overpriced in my region, about $200 more compare to officially announced prices. The initial price was roughly 1/3 of yearly wage of our family, so it was pretty substantial purchase for me. Weeks after I filmed that interview Sony announces a huge discount on a6400, which was about $158. Some stores claimed that it's gonna be until November 3rd, but discount is still there. So, just like that, even if I try to sell my a6400, I lose a pretty noticeable amount of money, and I'll still need a lot in order to buy X-T3 (kinda afraid to buy used, due to scams and frauds, which is sadly pretty common in my region).
So there's that. Sorry for whining, but I feel pretty much crushed and depressed because all of that, and just wanna share my story.
That's tough man good luck.
@@paulbentley2709 thanks to the huge discount I was able to buy x-t3 finally (sold a6400). Felt like I had x-t3 all my life, ergonomics is awesome and just incompatible with Sony aps-c. Image rendition are simply brilliant and 10 bit video makes huge difference, very easy to render and very forgiving (especially when you doesn't have a chance to create a good lighting). Not to hate Sony, but their aps-c line feels more like an elaborate expensive toy, rather than proper camera. Fuji on the other hand felt like completely competent pro-body, with functions that makes so much sense that I can't understand how I lived without it before, lol
Not fair!! 6600 vs X-T3 ,when fuji already released X-T4 ,wich has ibis and bigger batery. Hmmmm
The XT4 was and still is not ready to ship, B&H shows May 11 for ship dates. This video was released in Nov 2019, so the XT3 was the comparison.
Who cares when full frame is only nominally more expensive. A feature of the Sony that is often underestimated in the single lens mount across both APS-C and FF. Clear upgrade path for anyone "toying" with APS-C.
XT3 for me all day long, its more of an artists camera if that makes sense, magical pictures roll off of it rather than technically perfect, sharp and flat. Sonys are great tools, but the images from them always require post processing to make them into something, the fuji's files hardly need touching. The fuji has an organic quality no other digital mirrorless can do.
That leather case for the xt3 😍
i have a same for SONY .. circa 10USD .. , basic protection for body, just like a bumper :)
It's a leather case by KAZA
It is expensive.
Personally, I think the a6600 is a difficult sell when used a7III's on the secondary market (not necessarily secondhand retail) are regularly seen for $1,500-1,600. With the exception of the screen record time limit, and maybe real time tracking, I cannot think of anything the a6600 brings to the table that its bigger brother fails to provide, its advantages notwithstanding.
Tyler Barton portability
Back in 2012 i spent 1300 on a dslr apsc with half or less capabilities than those two cameras. Still a good camera for stills.
I did that in 2007, went Full frame a couple of years later but my 40d was a very nice camera.
Yes..and here i am
This body and lens is a beast of a combo but it's too expensive. I'd rather buy a7iii and a tamron 28-75 2.8
Well, I just bought this camera (a6600) and the 28-75. Both are quite nice and very nice together
I’m an a7iii owner with a6400’s as my back ups. For me, the a6400 is a better value purchase over the 6600 as you’re pretty much only getting sensor stabilisation (which isn’t really all that great - the extra battery life doesn’t bother me) as an extra. If they had gave it 2 card slots then I’d say the difference would have definitely been worth it.
This is obviously a biased comparison. Most of this review was crowing about the Sony. That was about the first 10 minutes of a 16 minute video. Then you spoke a little about the XT3 and the XH1. Now there is the XT4 so come on back and let us know how much better the XT4 is. And why don't you talk about the great firmware updates of Fuji while Sony doesn't give two shits about it's customer base.
We are photographers or videographers who are earning money from these cameras. Vloggers are so low on this market. They just buy one camera and one lens. This video smells so much sony advertisement also.
I've been wavering between picking up a XT-3 or an A7iii for a while. I love the Fuji lenses, ergonomics and overall joy of using the camera. The A7iii is a powerhouse but an expensive eco-system to buy into past the body. Still going back and forth but Sony a6600 doesn't change that for me. If I wanted crop I'd go for the X-T3, If I wanted full frame I'd go for the A7iii.
Nowadays when Tony holds cameras and stuff way close to the vlog camera, it feels like he's just trolling Camera Conspiracies... "Oh look! See how fast my Canon refocuses on my face!"
all he wants is the perfect cammmerrraaah...
As expected, Tony is talking shit again and again. Lol! This is why photography is becoming boring nowadays. People are comparing their cameras instead of going out and take pictures. Tony should focus more on teaching the skills needed to take good images instead of talking about camera specs which is a pure BS since he is a sony camera dealer. I like Omar Gonzales and other youtubers who teaches people how to shoot regardless of what camera they have. Photography should be fun, not a battle between who's the best camera brand.
Its sad that Tonys reviews always comes back to that vlogger screen. Its like 99% of photographers considering this two cameras who dont care 1 sec about the vlogging ability... The vloggers who just handhold the camera in front of they're faces really dont need this type of cameras....
Don't compare with Fuji xt3, Fuji is on another level
Not really. I have the xt3.
gOOeyMush PH explain why u disagree
I agree. it's just a much better camera from many perspectives. The sony is a "device" and it is a real pain to use while shooting and in post production.... I've used sony cameras for almost 15 years until I tried the Fuji XT-2.. Now I have the xt3 and the xh1... and sold most of my sony gear.
klarionc is any of those better than the x100f I can see they are more cheaper
DJ Joeflirt I think it depends on what you prefer. Those are interchangeable lens cameras, but as far as I know x 100 series comes with a fixed lens... So is that really cheaper? But I think whatever you get will be superior to Sony from usability perspective. It will look better, last better, feel better and be easier to use. Eventually, I'll get an x 100 series camera too :)
sony never realeses firmware updates unlike fuji.
I chose fuji.
aaargh so much concerns about vlogging and evaluating cameras for their vlogging-ness abilities. it's such a niche market and who is doing it knows well what to look out for based on some pictures of the camera.
It's definitely not a "niche" market, and vloggers are an audience both cameras actively marketed to. But you, as a non vlogger, can simply ignore that part of the video... that's much easier than me leaving it out of the video and ignoring the needs of potential buyers who might at some point use the camera to record themselves.
@@TonyAndChelsea You are right, it's not a niche - it's a niche of a niche at most 0.01% of the camera world clientele.
@@TonyAndChelsea No one says you have to leave it out... at least I don't think so. But you're wrong about it being anything but a small segment of the advanced camera market. The issue that I have with many reviewers is not that they discuss vlogging potential of a camera, but the amount of emphasis they give to those features and the negative marks they give cameras that don't cater to vloggers. I also think that being a video user (as a career), you tend to revolve around other videographers (it's only logical), and given that youtube carries so much weight these days, the few reviewers, who are vloggers by necessity, skew the feedback that manufacturers get... I'm glad fuji isn't jumping on that bandwagon.
@@klarion well this didn't age very well 😂😂
@@johnkevin7992 Indeed and Fuji got a huge thumbs down from me. Bought a Panasonic s1r to replace the rest of my Sony FF equipment. It's their loss. I also sold my fuji xt3 and went back to xt2. It has a better low light performance/less shot noise and the AF on the xt3 was way over-hyped.
8:18 The shotgun mic ABOVE the lens vs BESIDE the lens makes no difference. Unless you mount it IN FRONT of the lens, it's still not lined up. For optimal audio, you need to aim it no matter WHERE it's mounted. If it's above the lens, you aim it down at the subjects mouth... if it's to the side, you aim it sideways at the subject's mouth... no difference whatsoever. -Signed, an audio engineer/producer.
I got GAS half way through video, but I do appreciate knowing the nuances between cameras.
Why did sony have to remove the awesome flash i love to use it for bounce. Now i have to give up ibis for a6400 😔
6400 is bargain for its price! and a little flash is a very handy as fill or bounce must have for me even though i have many on camera flashes but NOT always with me , ill pay an extra to have it just in case shame its not offered/included in 6600 , the more light the better
For me, the biggest point was the size and quality of lenses. = Fuji was the clear winner. Just get some 20 buck spare batteries if thats a prob.
They do sell a battery pack that connects to camera. Dummy battery to a power bank. Been looking at it but is always sold out.
So, lenses are more important than cameras at this point, but it's only given a quick mention at the end? I realize you're teasing a forthcoming video, but this is probably the biggest consideration between the two cameras. Sony's IBIS and obstructed flippy screen are fools gold... who can trust either for anything more than casual shooting? And really, isn't that when most people are using phones?
Look at the Canon EOS RP for vlogging because it has full frame? Not when you use 4K with a 1.6 x crop. What's more you lose access to dual-pixel AF. Of course, you can stick to 1080 and use the full frame, but it still suffers on video quality compared to some of the competition, as it doesn't do full video frame readout. Of course it doesn't have IBIS either.
Appalling sony menus and apparently customer support from what I read online. 😑👎📷
Also pretty bad when it comes to usability and color rendition.
Almost as bad as Fuji. Buy a canon for menus
I went for a6600 due to stabilization, battery and better focus in the end.
But Fuji look so vintage, much much better to me.
Sony A6600 "flagship" and it only have 1 UHS-I SD Card Slot and on battery compartment?
Sony are cheap... Most of their stuff is plastic and their controls are just painful to use on apsc....
It's not a Pro camera
Ah yes... camera viability based on overemphasized vlogger specs... IBIS that can't replace a gimbal and a flippy screen that isn't useful with external accessories. If you like to shoot stills on crop sensor, the Fuji system is far and away the best option
I'm rocking the a 6400 and I never EVER go under 1/100 at 50m 1.8
Unless you shoot in low light.
Fuji xt3 16mm 35mm and 56mm Sony cannot compete with this lens set up
Fuji lens are amazing no doubt. (Sony native for apsc aren't close).. However, those SIGMA trio lens + the new 16-55 zoom lens more than make up for it, especially since the Sigmas functional even better than native lenses with nice colors and just as great autofocus)! :)
@@stantheman3674 True the Sigma trio for Sony apsc is fantastic! (value-wise especially), however their oldest model the 30mm does not have good autofocus, especially compared to their own 16mm which is miles better (haven't used the latest 56mm).
Tried sigma on Nikon never liked the feel of the build obviously Fuji only really able to use native glass I have been sticking largely with primes to keep that tight smaller feel and also pushing my technique ( that is smaller than a Nikon D850)
@@willmannering Actually, the Sigma 30 which used to have a rep for its autofocus got firmware update in 2018 that resolved all its issues! It's autofocus is fantastic as native now (and the 56mm along with 16mm are ofc top of the line autofocus wise too)...
Fuji didn't aim @ vloggers at all I guess. Otherwise both great cameras. But I guess for the price of Sony apsc glass going a7III would be the better choice as you mentioned.
Aiming a product at 200 people on the planet is rather poor business decision.
@@dash3dot sony makes up for it with cheaply made cameras mostly of plastic and great marketing...
Thank goodness! Now if they would make a camera without video features or the flippy screen and drop the price by a few hundred bucks, that would be lovely.
JUST BUY FUJIFILM X-H1 AND YOU'LL BE HAPPIER THEN ANY OF THESE
except maybe for the autofocus
How many narcissists are actually complaining about the lack of flip screen? You would have to look inside the lens anyways and not the screen.
Sony Sony Sony Fujifilm but... Sony Sony Sony... love the analog dials on X-T3 but if you can, buy the more expensive Sony. Fair enough.
Based on this review, the king of small chip camera world is Olympus.
Are chips keto though?
@@77dris 😁 yeah if they don't have carbs. 😀👍
@@allencrider if you need a new camera now i would get the em5 mark 3 and then trade down the line for the 47 mp omd
Exactly
@@allencrider I have the original 16mp EM1 and it takes great pictures and is super cheap now and it doesn't have a flip out screen!
I admire you and Chelsea and how much you guys are offering generously for free, thank you and keep it up. Hugh
I don't think it's worth the money
As a Sony shooter, the X-T3 wins by a mile. Sony needs to stop making basic features like multiple top dials or a joystick exclusive to it's Full Frame lineup.
Charge $1,000+ *or* cut down the features. You can't choose both.
How does it win by a mile? They both have strengths and weaknesses.
@@errolsmith5634 Errol that's just my personal impression. The Fuji has a better sensor, better handling, and is good enough everywhere else. It'd the more pleasant camera to use with a better native lens lineup.
On the other hand, an A6400 and crop Sony lenses are way cheaper than an X-T3 and Fuji lenses (I use an A6400). I feel like the A6600 is too expensive without the features that make a camera a flagship, like plentiful controls and dual fast card slots.
@@HappyHubris 2 card slots are the only advantage the Fuji would have over the SONY, then again it's all based on your needs as a photographer. You doing weddings, then the Fuji 2 slots is a no brainer but for only $300 more you can get the Amazing Full-frame A73.
@@errolsmith5634 the way I look at it is that you can pay $500 less for an A6400 if you don't need IBIS and are willing to swap batteries.
Fuji xh1 is primitive?!! Wow, we have become so spoiled
it's idiocy to call that camera primitive. It's a joy to use and is better than any sony apsc in all regards except the speed of autofocus, which is rather marginal. I get a much better hit rate with the XH1 anyway than I used to with a6000 and about the same as with a99ii
and if you get 5% more hits with a6600 at 11fps, is it really worth going with a much less user friendly sony that will double your post production time?
Even after seeing this video, I am leaning towards getting a Fuji X-T30. Same X-T3 image quality at much lower price.
If you're not a "vlogger", Fuji is probably much better for you. Easier to use and files look more natural, requiring less work in post production. If you don't do post production - go with Fuji hands down.
I just got the Fujifilm X-T3 with 18-55 lens for vlog, it works pretty well. And for HDR images, I am still using the Nikon D850+three primary lenses+85mm 1.4. For stability of XT3, I choose Zhiyun Crane 3 to neutralize the lost.
I like Fujifilm over the sony
"okay it lacks a joystick but you know what, you can FOCUS AND RECOMPOSE now!!"
Fuji's app now works well on all devices I have. I have the x-h1, very well made camera for photo with video capabilities.
And you always complaint about sony ergonomics before. But never once realized that fuji grip very very very not ergonomic. And never complaint about it
I'd love to see a comparison with the xt4 now
It's still not ready for shipments. But yep, once it's out, that would be an interesting review.
Great to see, at a much more recent vantage point, the Fuji XT4 rectified most of the criticisms you leveled at the XT3. I debated buying the a6600 vs the XT4 and think the XT4 is all around better.
Sony still cannot even master a TV remote controls. Love Sony, but I don't get who is making ergonomic decisions on any of there products.
Agreed. I hate the sony TV remote. The button placements are very non-user-friendly specially that they are not embossed.
They should take note of LG Magic Remote. The arrow buttons are embossed, the volume buttons are embossed, even the channel selection buttons are embossed! The big round dial is just a directional d-pad which makes real sense (unlike in sony's where there are other buttons around the d-pad and you can accidentally hit them)! The most important thing is, the button placements are well-spaced, and strategically placed so they are easy to remember. Overall the magic remote is really great to use even when you're not looking at the buttons.
Louzy review. Didn't really give all the credit the X-T3 deserves. Sony makes great cameras but this review seemed too biased.
I just completed my own quick still-image assessment of the Sony A6400 (slightly older version of the A6600 so slightly less image quality in the processor) and the Fuji XT3 using Imaging Resource's Comparometer. In their lab settings all you need to do is scroll down to a test image, set the ISO (in this case 3200 because I want good low-light image quality) then compare the two camera images enlarged considerably side by side. Remember, given today's technology we are looking at only slight, but still noticeable differences between cameras within their respective class types (in this case ASPC). Although the difference is slight I would comfortably rate the Sony A6400 image as good as to slightly better (perhaps up to 10%) than the Fuji XT3. Given that the A6400 image is slightly better and the Sony A6600 has the best auto focus in the business along with IBIS that the Fuji does not have, I would overall bet that the core quality of Sony A6600 images will be consistently better than the Fuji XT3. There is no comparison between an objective, lab-based image quality assessment with parameters carefully controlled for and someone's subjective measurement, although subjective assessments can point out a great deal in terms of other factors. So, if one is looking for the camera that will consistently take the better picture, all other factors controlled for, I would hands down bet on the Sony a6600 over the Fuji XT3. Again, see for yourself by going to the Imaging Resource's website-then click on the top of the home page for 1. camera reviews, then 2. compare images: Comparometer.
It’s hard to compare cameras without talking about the lenses available. It’d be interesting to see how the E 16-55mm f2.8 compares to Fuji’s XF equivalent. Even so, the XF 16mm f1.4 alone keeps me in the Fuji camp; that lens is pure magic.
I like the fact full frame cameras are getting so close in price to apsc cameras.
It's actually the other way around, APS-C cameras are getting closer to full frame cameras... which is sad.
dash3dot I was about to say that lol
@@dash3dot Why is it bad?
You can chose between similarly priced cameras and have to chose between better picture quality in low light and better portability.
Other than that the differences are often niche.
There are cheaper APS-C and M43 cameras out there but they often lack featres and or overall picture quality compared to FF.
Its just that the premium APS-C are nowadays comparable in pice and quality to FF (in good conditions)
at this time no camera companies are making bad cameras anymore, just tat there're many bad photographers that didn't get used to their gears.
anyway i hope u can review the x-pro 3. must be fun xD
Yes and NO. I've gotten used to my sony gear over the last 12 years and I had ZERO regrets going with the Fuji system. So much easier to work with and the results (for me) are better and the workflow is faster.
I really don't get his issue with the control wheels, they're really easy to use...
I'd personally love to get a Canon EOS R, but the 6600 doens't have the 30 minute recording limit. I'd rather not buy an additional monitor to exceed that limit.
Size matters. Aps-c should be as compact as possible. If you need a bigger body, there is plenty good reasons to buy full frame, and few to buy aps-c.
Ok some thoughts
At $1400 A6600 is overpriced, I do understand that’s it now $1200 but even still, it’s not worth it.
Here is why:
New Full Frame $1700
Used Full Frame $1500
Much better video APS-Cs like:
GH5 / Fuji X-T3 comparable price.
As compared to A6400:
Paying $500 above the price of A6400 for a headphone jack and not so great IBIS on the A6600 is foolish. Just buy a $300 gimbal or a used one for $200 for the cheaper A6400 and get unbeatable stabilization.
Trade off:
For $1400, buyers are pretty close to getting both a used A6400 for video and used A7RII for stills. That’s two cameras.
I am not surprised by the price drop, I do think it needs to be priced lower even still.
Sales have not been great and they had to drop price just below GH5 and X-T3. Sony hardly ever drops prices this quickly after launch. I still do think it’s a bit high and needs a further drop to $1100.
The only way to justify its current price is if they have some sort of firmware update to allow 4K 10bit. But oh yea they have Single Slot SD UHS 1 memory cards, so 10bit 4K internally that’s not happening.
The positives for this A6600 are that you can now use Sigma DC line of f1.4s instead of Sony’s 1.8 OSS lenses and have a little IBIS help with the non stabilizing lenses.
Yea it has a better battery but seriously how much does spare battery cost? Not worth the premium price tag.
Spend $ on features that will improve the quality of your actual content, weather it’s shots and video. Headphone Jack, battery life and not so great IBIS is not worth the extra premium in this case.
Even at $1200, this A6600 is flop.
Thanks Tony! Great video! I have owned a6000 & 6500 before, but traded them for the A7iii and also enjoy much, much more my Fuji XT3!
That's interesting... Can you explain. I assume because XT3 looks and feels like a proper camera not a box of tricks
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so fed up with youtube reviewers pushing IBIS as a deal breaker.... it is absolutely not unless you mainly shoot video... and even then, you should still get a gimbal! 80% of the video is about the a6600... it isnt a comparison at all
Disagree. I have an XT3 but find I’m using my Osmo Pocket almost all of the time now for video. I didn’t know it at the time, but I’d say stabilisation is more important than anything else - including image quality. There nothing worse than shaky footage and a gimbal is real hassle and a big expense. Of course, photos are another matter.
Completely disagree depending on how you shoot-
IBIS is just so uesefull for photos if you use it without a tripod which like 80% of APS-C user do.
I have the a6500 and the combination of that camera and the Sigma 16mm f1.4 (no OSS) is just so good. I have frequently taken snapshots at night handheld.
You can easily get tac sharp images going as low as 1/20 or even 1/5-1/10 of a second shutter speed letting you shoot a night handheld with ISO400
@@1337Jogi dude how you often you shoot at that shutter speed??? lmao there is too much reliance on the gear itself than improving skill but you do you though
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Not every week but probably more oftem than you think.
Well we are probably just completely different in our style of shooting.
I love travelling to other places or just taking my camera with me while going somewhere else nearby. Maye just go to the city, or the next lake or into the mountains.
I dont even own a tripod since photography is not the main purpose of my trips and it just hampers me down.
Last weekend I was at big lake an hour drive from home and as always my camera was with me. My gear apart from food water etc was just the camera in a small bag, one zoom and said prime lense.
There was a gorgeous sunset and blue hour.
As we all know sunrise sunset and blue hour are probably the best conditions for shooting.
Since I live in the northern hemisphere it can get dark early in winter.
Last new years I was in Edinburgh and Scotland it was dark or semi-dark for pobably 18-20h per day.
I plan to got to the far north in the summer and there will be sunset-like conditions for several hours a day.
I think it would have been worth mentioning the sale-stopping rolling shutter of the a6600 when used for video.
Oh good to know! Thanks for the heads up!
Not feeling this one. Was hoping for 10bit for video. A7s3 hopefully withing the next 20 years maybe?
I was tempted by this camera, but the low res viewfinder, slow single card slot with small buffer and poor image stabilisation, is just too much bad against the excellent autofocus, shame.
Fuji XT3 60p.10bit. with xf18-55f2.8-4 ois for ~1500Eur
vs
Sony a6600 30p. 8bit. with 16-55 f2.8 oss for ~3000Eur
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Hmm
well, those aren't comparable lenses. Fuji has a 16-55 f2.8.
@@TonyAndChelsea This is true. So, Fuji 2K vs. Sony 3K. Thank you for videos.
@@EnjoyFilm And that lens is a beauty. Love it. Price aside, Fuji is just easy to use and Sony is a pain. I bet if we took a hundred average users and had them shoot with both cameras, than examine the pictures in any software, you'd have 10 to 1 go with Fuji... and the 1 would probably find sony more comfortable to hold.
I upgraded from the A6000 but got the A6400. Has most of the features of the A6600 the main thing missing is IBIS. I am sure IBIS is a good feature but I do not have an issue with camera shake even with the Sigma 16mm F1.4. I did not think it was worth another $500. I thought about going full frame but the lens prices put me off. I would have needed to buy a body and a good 24-70 and did not want to spend that much. I may go full frame at some point but not ready to do that yet. May wait for the A7iv, and buy an A7iii once the price drops.
We are Pro Photographers (Nikon& Sony), but for travel and Holidays we only use Fuji XT20 & 30 and we only shoot in jpeg. The Fuji combination of low weight/size and image quality is just unbeatable.
With my Sony A6400 I focus with my thumb on the touchscreen while Iooking through the viewfinder.
The king of compact cameras is now the Olympus em5mkiii. I'll take it with the 12-40 pro over those 2 every day.
Tony you know that the 5 axis ibis of the a6xxx series is a piece of crap. As well as the crazy rolling shutter
don't you know that tiny sensor cameras are dead??? ;D
@@Reyfox1 oh, true, what was I thinking 😅🤣
as an olympus user, xt3 is more attractive to me
I was torn between Olympus and Fuji but I went to Fuji. I love Olympus color science.
If Fujiflim can develop a compact IBIS system and incorporate it into the X-T3's replacement without increasing the overall body size significantly then they will have a definite winner.
Correction Sony released a 16-50 f2.8 as a kit lens for the a77 in 2011.
But it's a old lens
Great video. We just got the xt3 and 6 lenses but love our Sony’s. For video the Sony has so much rolling shutters hand held that it’s better off to get the jittery XT3 which is more natural and easier to fight in post.
Post production is the main reason I got rid of most of my sony equipment. I find that when I use the Fuji, there is little (comparatively) that needs to be done, while Sony files don't look right to my eye and almost always require work.
There is a major issue here: with the same amount of money you can get either a6600 with 16 55 f2. 8 or a7 iii with 16 55 f4. So stuck here.
Yeah the a6600 + 16-55 combo is great. However, the price of that lens is just ridiculous. I wish sigma or tamron would make affordable alternatives to that.
The extended battery life and stabilized sensor is compelling me to get this camera. The hot shoe does not communicate with the hotshoe mic I've read.
the digital mic from Sony becomes an analogue one on the a6600. Only the A7r4 supports the fully digital signal chain so far, afaik. I wonder why they didn't upgrade the hot-shoe for the a6600 to support digital audio, but then I again I also don't understand why it doesn't have UHS-II or a usb-c port ;)
Hello Tony I am currently using EOS M6 Mark II. What do you think a Worthy upgrade in 2022 in midrange price range? ( Already I got some Canon EF lenses btw)