How The Bombardier CSeries Program Transitioned To The Airbus A220 Family

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  • Опубликовано: 21 мар 2023
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    The Airbus A220 family of aircraft was initially designed by Bombardier Aerospace as Bombardier CSeries. The two variants were labelled the CS100 and CS300. This CSeries program was formally launched at the Farnborough Air Show in July 2008. As you may already know, this program eventually made its way into the hands of Airbus. In today’s video, let’s look at how all of this happened.
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  • @SimpleFlyingNews
    @SimpleFlyingNews  Год назад +2

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    • @derrick021
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    • @jantjarks7946
      @jantjarks7946 4 месяца назад

      $52 billion in cost overruns?
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  • @Zekeormoses
    @Zekeormoses Год назад +84

    Boeing to Bombardier: "You can't defeat me"
    Bombardier: "I know, but he can"
    Airbus enters

    • @jantjarks7946
      @jantjarks7946 4 месяца назад

      **Mad Max enters too.**
      And if he can't, I can for sure.
      🤔😐😉

  • @joecrammond6221
    @joecrammond6221 Год назад +97

    thanks to Boeing, Airbus have a new plane with little competition

    • @AliAhmed-yz8qo
      @AliAhmed-yz8qo Год назад +18

      And a plant with highly trained workers in the US.

    • @johniii8147
      @johniii8147 Год назад +1

      @@AliAhmed-yz8qo The assembly plant predated the 220 for Airbus

    • @tpr1808
      @tpr1808 Год назад

      ​@@AliAhmed-yz8qo More jobs

    • @ericjones7769
      @ericjones7769 Год назад

      Exactly 💯 plus it was really silly of Boeing to end production of the 717s which could had been Boeings competitor to the A220s

    • @johniii8147
      @johniii8147 Год назад +1

      @@ericjones7769 Not realistically. Boeing very actively tried to sell the 717 and just no takers other than Airtran, Hawaiian and Qantas in any volume. The final nail was AC turning it down for regional jet instead. It wouldn't have been competitive with the 220 which was at least 2 generations ahead.

  • @MarkUKInsects
    @MarkUKInsects Год назад +32

    Its a shame that Bombardier could not have kept it, but it does seem a beautiful fit into the the Airbus lineup. Such a nice plane.

  • @cskvision
    @cskvision Год назад +22

    0:38 to skip the ad. Boeing's stupidity is Airbus' gain. Glad to see a Canadian built jet succeed!

  • @ThatBoeing747Guy
    @ThatBoeing747Guy Год назад +44

    Boeing really shot themselves in the foot with this. They gave Airbus a free plane.

  • @sainnt
    @sainnt Год назад +10

    Based on current supply chain issues, it may be years before Airbus and Bombardier make a profit on the A220.
    They definitely will though, because the aircraft is amazing.

  • @BRTripReport
    @BRTripReport Год назад +19

    It is a great aircraft. I certainly enjoy being a passenger on an A220!

  • @cabottaxi
    @cabottaxi Год назад +8

    Nice aircraft and easy to see why Air Baltic have an entire fleet of them.

  • @lifter479
    @lifter479 Год назад +13

    Stepping in of an Airbus definitely saved the program, and improved production processes. Only thing what I miss is the old good model name. For me Bombardier CS300 sounds much powerful than Airbus A220-300.

  • @ThePhantomXT
    @ThePhantomXT Год назад +15

    Boeing really took the L during pandemic when the a220 was the preferable plane for its economics, in the process of all this their partnership with embraer turned sour

    • @heidirabenau511
      @heidirabenau511 Год назад +5

      And don't forget the MAX groundings!

    • @ThePhantomXT
      @ThePhantomXT Год назад +3

      @@heidirabenau511 huge L for them, management at the time was a big swing and a miss hoping they could do whatever they want and when in a jam, anticipate the government to come to the rescue

  • @mrrolandlawrence
    @mrrolandlawrence Год назад +7

    my favourite plane ...

  • @libanaden5183
    @libanaden5183 Год назад +14

    Boeing punching air right now lol.

  • @afterburner94
    @afterburner94 Год назад +1

    Very informative video! Thanks!

  • @tristanhnl
    @tristanhnl Год назад +4

    A very comfortable aircraft to fly in. I'm glad Bombardier got it right, because their CRJs.....huge difference in comfort LoL
    But anyway, Airbus really scored here with taking over the CS series.

  • @PauldeSwardt
    @PauldeSwardt Год назад +2

    I was lucky enough to land on Runway 27 (From the direction of the City Centre) Flying from Geneva just at sunset but with Canary Wharf lit up like a Christmas tree - and as an extra Bonus an A220 from Luxor to Cairo! 😎

  • @longbeach7623
    @longbeach7623 Год назад +2

    Hard to believe this state of the art modern platform is already 10 years old.

  • @fleipeg
    @fleipeg Год назад +3

    Beautiful aircraft!

  • @joeneethling
    @joeneethling Год назад +1

    A legendary success story.

  • @ccudmore
    @ccudmore Год назад +5

    The Quebec government has invested a total of $1.5billion and now hold a 25% ownership stake in the program.

    • @heidirabenau511
      @heidirabenau511 Год назад +2

      It says in the video

    • @ccudmore
      @ccudmore Год назад +1

      @@heidirabenau511 It states that they have a 25% ownership stake, but doesn't state how much they've invested into the program.

  • @eamonahern7495
    @eamonahern7495 Год назад

    Good looking plane regardless of the Airbus or Bombardier branding. I saw a Swiss Air one the last time I was in Dublin airport a few weeks ago.

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  • @PrezidentHughes
    @PrezidentHughes Год назад

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  • @heidirabenau511
    @heidirabenau511 Год назад +13

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  • @ksouvenir5561
    @ksouvenir5561 2 месяца назад

    Canadian 🇨🇦 lost the airspace advantage ⚰️ since Avro Arrow. Now lost the entire space with Bombardier. Any revival?

  • @peteregan3862
    @peteregan3862 Год назад

    So, Airbus plans to produce 168 A220s per year.

  • @ronaldcuieii8639
    @ronaldcuieii8639 Год назад +4

    Has Airbus identified exactly how the aircraft is made prior to acquisition? Does the A220 share any commonality with Airbus original aircrafts other than the parental nomenclature? From what I understand it is a true quality aircraft!

    • @dmcr9525
      @dmcr9525 Год назад +8

      Of course they have. It's called due diligence. It would be quite irresponsible for them to take over a program and not know how their inherited product was manufactured. And no, the aircraft has nothing in common with any existing Airbus aircraft. (Edit: except for the fact that engines are of the same family.)

    • @ronaldcuieii8639
      @ronaldcuieii8639 Год назад

      @@dmcr9525 🙂right. And so it's only a matter of time before that happens right? For example, let's take the Boeing 777 and the 717. The 717 is aka the DC-9. The 717 has the 777 cockpit. So essentially, the DC-9, a McDonald Douglas built aircraft, has a product built by Boeing.

    • @leflate
      @leflate Год назад +2

      @@dmcr9525 well same engines as the 320NEO

    • @dmcr9525
      @dmcr9525 Год назад

      @@leflate True, they are similar and in the same family. The only real difference is the fact that the 1500G has a smaller fan diameter.

    • @dmcr9525
      @dmcr9525 Год назад

      @@ronaldcuieii8639 The will likely leave production as is it, and just try to ramp up production and bring the cost down. Introducing changes would drive costs up, and it would have to go through recertification with all the regulators to receive an amended type certificate. On another note, many people may not know this, but the 717 actually shares its cockpit with the MD-10, and MD-11. ☺️

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  • @jamiesworld1690
    @jamiesworld1690 Год назад +3

    Since we have a220 we need the a230,240,250,260,270 and 280 to complete thr the a220 series of planes just like the a3 series good t9 see modern and safe aircraft airbus are safer than using outdated Boeing dangerous aircraft of the world

  • @gpaull2
    @gpaull2 Год назад

    Airbus, please let western Canada know if you figure out how to get the East to increase production without handouts. 😅

    • @patrice5976
      @patrice5976 Год назад

      Enjoy we’st jets and the boing you’re flying out there

    • @jantjarks7946
      @jantjarks7946 4 месяца назад

      The newest Boeing song is played unplugged.
      🫣😉

  • @Mark-uh7cr
    @Mark-uh7cr Год назад +4

    Don't play World of Tanks, the algorithms go against you every time, no matter how good you get and the professional gamers feast on noobs.
    The gamers then gang up on you telling you to uninstall the game.

  • @awatercolourist
    @awatercolourist Год назад +1

    I still do not understand why Airbus agreed to be a partner. What was in it for them? What did they see in the programme that made think it worthwhile to be a partner. I understand that the CSeries did serve a niche that Airbus struggled to gain a footing in, but wouldn’t there be more issues in the background that are not visible to us, the general public?

  • @isthatso5616
    @isthatso5616 Год назад +11

    It's time they ironed out the Pratt engine issues once and for all..
    Your painting a rosy picture for the program, yet omitting the lawsuits upcoming from 2 African Carriers for the Lengthy grounding of their fleet ,due to lack of parts or replacement engines !! Dispatch reliability abysmal !!!
    Engines coming off with less than 1000 landings as opposed to 5200 promised by Pratt.!!

    • @serkandevel7828
      @serkandevel7828 Год назад +2

      You realize the lawsuit goes against P&W and not Airbus (or Embrear)?
      Engine makers are seperate companies from planemakers so it's neither Airbus, nor Boeing, Comac, Gulfstream, etc. that are constructing or directly servicing the engines.
      Also such engine issues wouldn't change much of how the plane itself is constructed anyway.
      Something like the more impactful Max groundings would put responsibility on the planemaker.

    • @gregsmith3410
      @gregsmith3410 Год назад +2

      Disadvantages of a single source engine supplier...
      Definitely ,much more economical for the airframer, for cerification,and quicker entry into service with one engine type....
      Ofcourse , common practice nowadays, with some exceptions.
      At least when the 787 was having engine issues with the Rolls powerplant, the GE version wasn't affected ,...
      Same as the 320 neo...with CFM having little issues , compared to PW 1000 version still being grounded with some fleets.!!!

    • @12345fowler
      @12345fowler Год назад

      Are numbers of landing any valuable metric for time on wings for engines really ?

  • @DanielD2724
    @DanielD2724 Год назад +1

    World Of Tanks? Really? It is an aviation channel not a gaming channel!

  • @Forsitac
    @Forsitac Год назад +4

    Why couldnt boeing not Build the better Aircraft for one time? Instead they´re like "Aww were so American were the best". Not like sueing and cheating like KC-767 were the Us Airforce bought the worse Plane for a bad price just because its "so american". Instead offering a competitive product. If Bombardier would´ve continued selling below production cost they would ruin themselfs anyway. What has Boeing become? Its such a shame.

    • @ant2312
      @ant2312 Год назад +3

      You sum that up perfectly, totally blind 'American is best' etc etc

  • @algernonblack
    @algernonblack Год назад

    Where did Airbus get the money to buy Bombardier? Did the EU authorise it?

    • @SwordQuake2
      @SwordQuake2 Год назад +2

      they didn't buy Bombardier... pay attention

    • @algernonblack
      @algernonblack Год назад

      @@SwordQuake2 Well Airbus bought 50.01% which means they own the company and as reported later made that up to 75%. I ask again where did they get the money.

    • @SwordQuake2
      @SwordQuake2 Год назад +6

      @@algernonblack they bought THE PROGRAM not the whole company... And where they get their money from is none of your business.

    • @algernonblack
      @algernonblack Год назад

      The original question was rhetorical but I have enjoyed teasing you. I can only assume you are a Canadian who is so upset that the French have stolen your airplanes. So, I shall leave this conversation now, the outcome has been so funny and I do not have time to continue the game. Good luck Mr SwordQuake2.

    • @walkrwalkr3622
      @walkrwalkr3622 7 месяцев назад

      Airbus didn’t pay to get the 50% stake. They will just took over production and streamline the process to ensure the program doesn’t meet its demise. Bombadier just couldn’t afford to keep the model going . It was later on that they sold their remaining stake for cash

  • @damsom1431
    @damsom1431 Год назад +14

    Thank goodness the CSeries was taken by Airbus to create the A220. If Boeing had done that, it would have turned this terrific airplane into a disaster, proving once again, that Boeing is the worst aircraft manufacturer to ever exist!

    • @parimal7528
      @parimal7528 Год назад

      What's worse is US Govt created obstacles for Canadian company which US calls it's ally. The biggest salesman of Boeing stays in White House.

    • @serkandevel7828
      @serkandevel7828 Год назад +3

      Realistically, if Boeing got a hold of the CSeries, they would've cancelled the program as soon as possible, keeping their mainline products more profitable.
      Such a step wouldn't be the first time or even unique to Boeing as the American industry already successfully pressured the Canadians to stop their own efforts (such as the Avro Arrow) and rely on American-made products instead.

    • @parimal7528
      @parimal7528 Год назад

      @@serkandevel7828 Shows how spineless Canadian Govt is.

    • @mmm0404
      @mmm0404 Год назад +1

      Technically, if BOEING never acted the way they did, the C series program would have been canceled or scrapped long ago.
      Boeing saved the C-series program
      At least show a little gratitude.

    • @serkandevel7828
      @serkandevel7828 Год назад

      @@mmm0404 If Boeing didnt interfere with the Delta order, the CSeries would more likely be less powerful on the market and meet a similar fate to the CRJs if ever, not scrapped

  • @gpaull2
    @gpaull2 Год назад

    Lots of Canadian tax dollars and typical Bombardier mismanagement.

  • @gary5807
    @gary5807 11 месяцев назад

    SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Angry ! Trump and Bowing to make the story short.