I worked on that Engineering Simulator (ESIM) and the iron bird (ISTCR) for 5 years in Mirabel from before 1st flight to type approval. Even the cockpit is drop dead gorgeous . Fantastic job on the interview.
The involvement of China goes back to the start of the program under Bombardier. China provided important launch funding for the CSeries and in return Bombardier agreed to China making the Mid-Fuelage , Rear Barrel , Tailcone , Doors and Forward Fuselage . Airbus continued this arrangement when they took over the program in 2016.
*sources needed about seed funding. If it’s true it would have been a minuscule amount compared to the Government of Quebec and the Government of Canada Can’t trust your information when you can’t even get the year the program was purchased by Airbus.
Actually we are both wrong . Airbus formally acquired 50.01% of the program in October 2017 . However their involvement as a minority parter dates back to 2016 . That’s when I first started having dealings with Airbus personnel when I was based in China.
Absolutely beautiful aircraft and Airbus brings a new meaning to customer service with its aircraft operating parameter tracking - really amazing high tech.
That was so interesting !!! Boeing could learn a lesson or two from these people for sure !!! The Airbus host was so well versed he was a pleasure to listen to...
Wow this is fascinating and so glad you were able to show this to us all. I know locally here in Australia that Qantas has bought A220 aircraft to replace some older aircraft and great that they are super fuel efficient so they can even fly long haul well medium haul at least. Looking forward to fly in one eventually.
I flew on the first passenger demo flight of A220 with airBaltic, December 5, 2016. It was called Bombardier CS300; still have the souvenir poster in my home office. Back then it felt such an improvement over other short haul aircraft. Now I'm just used to it and it feels standard.
Fascinating. Had the opportunity to tour this plant when Bombardier had developed the C-Series and saw the prototypes being finished. At that time most of the factory was used for assembling CR700/900s.
I was surprised to learn that Bombardier has the lead in business jets sales. I also like when they're being modified as military aircraft. As a Quebecker, I feel proud. :):)
@@davidbalcon8726 Not exactly. CDPQ invested in the former Bombardier Transport (rail) but not in the C Series. You probably meant Investissement Québec (IQ), which is the government's investment arm. IQ is the co-owner of the A220 programme in a joint venture with Airbus (25% - 75%) until at least 2035 when the programme is expected to be fully profitable and IQ able to recoup its investment. After that Airbus will own 100% of the programme.
Fascinating stuff. This video is great and look forward to the next ones in this series. It is especially nice to hear from employees who clearly have some enthusiasm and joy in sharing their work. Thanks!
Thank you very much for this very informative and very interesting report about the A 220 production lines in Mirabel!🙂👍So far as I know Airbus renewed much of it with a huge investment after they took the former C-Series production over back in 2018. It´s indeed a great Aircraft, really one of the 21st Century! I´m looking forward for the further episode of this series!🧡
@@briankenney1433 Probably only for one dollar because they detected before making the deal how much money they would have to spend before the production line in Mirabel would work efficient and proper.
Nolinor last week, Airbus Canada this week….seems like you made the rounds in Mirabel!! Hopefully you visited the coolest hangar of them all, Pratt & Whitney Flight Test!!
@@big_g_dog World of pain?? Customers continue to order GTF planes (including the A220) in droves despite field learning, new government funding for F35 engine upgrade…doesn’t sound too painful to me. Sound like you just read the headlines
@@HappyJack19 sounds like you don't know what you're on about... Customers ordering an Airbus powered with GTF won't get their aircraft until 2027-2031 depending on on A220 / A320 family so the firm assumption is the problems will be rectified (subject to supply chain and labour issues have been resolved by then).... 65+ A220 grounded due to engine problems requiring rectifications, 175 days to get an engine through for a hospital shop visit, 200 days to induct and engine for a PRSV. P&W can't build enough spare engines for their current customers or enough engines to service the worldwide fleet whilst hundreds of PW1100G's are AOG with 70+ aircraft in Indigo's fleet grounded due to H&H conditions HPCs blowing up, significantly reduced TBO's and no spare engines to keep the aircraft flying PLUS powdered metal issues only just being resolved? And they aren't in trouble?
@@big_g_dog HPC’s blowing up…..You really are clueless. And you’re right, world wide aerospace supply chain issues are only impacting Pratt 🙄… Keep reading the headlines bud
A very subtle but notable difference in the factory between Airbus and Boeing. Airbus assembly gives top priority to assembly quality, Boeing, assembly quantity. Most visible in the pressure on the employees. Airbus: Get it done right with meticulous attention to details, with fully integrated departments working in close cooperation, from designers to engineers to component assemblies to final assembly. Boeing, compartmentalized, each operation first and foremost under the gun to achieve rapid assembly, engineering nowhere in sight. QC is focused on production numbers and make the boardroom and stockholders happy.
My first flight on this plane was Breeze Airways to Orange County. Such a quiet, comfortable flight. Is the a220 facility open to us regulars to visit? I've been thinking about going to the Mobile one but haven't seen any definitive answers.
Flew a JetBlue 220 BOS-SJU last winter and for a single aisle plane of that size feels roomy and comfy. I think the Delta version includes a window on the rear section restroom.
Interesting and excellent as per usual Gabriel, I never knew the center fuselage was produced in China, which then make me laugh when people say they won't fly on Chinese made commercial aircraft but are ok on the Airbus platform.
While the kudos for designing this wonderful bird obviously go to Bombardier, Airbus really know how to do manufacturing and run their business. Just awesome, and I am kinf od sad that so far, i only had the chance to fly on one of them once. I would like to get that number up...
I got the chance to fly on Delta airlines A220-200/300 aircraft in 2023. I was very impressed with how well the aircraft performed and how much room they have inside the cabin. I’m a bit of a fluffy guy and I felt like delta’s economy plus section was pretty good for the A220 series.
Very cool video. Can’t wait for the next ones, as I am flying the 220 I find it interesting so see how it’s built and also what goes on behind the doors. Many thanks Gabriel @airedition
Hi Gabriel - a fascinating look behind the scenes! I've visited Boeing at Everett and Airbus at Toulouse but, sadly, without your access! Were you allowed to record on customer acceptance flights? That would be great to see.
I hope the A220 cockpit design such as trackball and wide screens makes it into the A320. If airbus implemented connected, physically moving sidesticks, it would be the perfect cockpit. Maybe with a dark interior, but thats just subjective
u cant do that with sidesticks its just too small to fit that much hardware thats why Boeing decided to not use them and use yokes even on their FBW planes, to mechanically link the 2 and also haptic feedback to simulate non-FBW controls
@@Inquisite1031 i meam gulfstream did it with their sidesticks. They wouldnt even have to be mechanically linked, just with software and motors in the sidestick assembly to mimic each others movement
Another great video. Very informative. I like how they use FR24 to monitor the airborne A220s. Can’t wait for episode 2. Oh by the way Mobile, Alabama is profunde Mo-bill, not mo-bile. 😅
flew on one 3 days ago with Air France 2 + 3 config. Very cool and capable aircraft. I was just thinking about possible cross sectional inbalance due to the config. HOw is it compensated on design level ? Also at one time aircraft seemed to bank more than 30%. Is it possible or was it just my impression ?
Air France is replacing the A318 baby bus on many routes by the A220, Like Hamburg to Paris CDG which I take frequently. For as much as I’m sad to see the baby bus go this is also a very comfortable aircraft and Air France has equipped interior super nice not to mention they still have great quality service and drinks even on short flights with Europe compared to Lufthansa and which make you pay for everything nowadays….
Contractual obligations with US carriers and limited capacity at Mobile necessitate some built in Mirabel to meet delivery dates. In 2018, US International Trade Committee ruled against Boeing; thereby abolishing the tariffs.
I live in Hawaii (Kailua, Oahu). Been flying X-Plane since version 4. Over the ensuing years this sim has made great progress both in flight physics and scenery depiction, but until it incorporates photo realistic scenery, it will eventually lose out to the MS flight sim. This scenery upgrade to X-Plane 12 is good but not great. The addition of boats did not include any sail boats in the Hawaiian waters, that I could spot on a flight from Honolulu International to Molokai. On Oahu I did not see any boats docked at the marinas or sailing off Waikiki.
Mirabel is not where there A220 "all started". This awesome aircraft was designed and built by by a Canadian manufacturer before being poached by Airbus!
Mirabel is where it all started, actually. This is where Bombardier designed and built the CSeries. Airbus bought the program and took over/expanded the facilities.
China produces 28% of the world's manufacturing output, the largest in the world. Airbus get products from China the same reason why the majority of us do: cost. Stop being controlled by political propaganda and realize everything is about money.
Not the fault of the guy explaining but it was very business process focused and therefore very dry. I'm more interested in the aircraft themselves, not Airbus's processes.
Airbus should have kept its originals A320, A350 and A380. It has clear cut commonality and clear cut size separation. A220 and A330 are just step downs or orphans
i agree , two plus three seat's beside ! enough ...sometimes between " two " unkown people could be 🤢 ... are enough fuel inside for transatlantic hopp'ing ?
I worked on that Engineering Simulator (ESIM) and the iron bird (ISTCR) for 5 years in Mirabel from before 1st flight to type approval. Even the cockpit is drop dead gorgeous . Fantastic job on the interview.
Iron birds are fascinating
I have 6,000 hours as a captain on crj900... You folks build great birds in Mirabel!
Flew on jetblue 220...wide cabin interior..comfortable & spacious..i was impressed..
Same. Austin to Boston with JetBlue. One of the best flights I've had
The involvement of China goes back to the start of the program under Bombardier. China provided important launch funding for the CSeries and in return Bombardier agreed to China making the Mid-Fuelage , Rear Barrel , Tailcone , Doors and Forward Fuselage . Airbus continued this arrangement when they took over the program in 2016.
Thanks for the additional context.
airbus took over the C-series program in 2020, not 2016
*sources needed about seed funding. If it’s true it would have been a minuscule amount compared to the Government of Quebec and the Government of Canada
Can’t trust your information when you can’t even get the year the program was purchased by Airbus.
Isn’t bombardier located in Quebec why did they get rid of the production of the plane and give it to Airbus instead?
Actually we are both wrong . Airbus formally acquired 50.01% of the program in October 2017 . However their involvement as a minority parter dates back to 2016 . That’s when I first started having dealings with Airbus personnel when I was based in China.
I have flown on the A220 several times and I love it. I wish Air Canada had more of them.
I work here. Awesome stuff! Know all of these places well.
Absolutely beautiful aircraft and Airbus brings a new meaning to customer service with its aircraft operating parameter tracking - really amazing high tech.
I moved to Montreal 3 years ago working for aviation sector, and I am so happy to see the inside of Mirabel! Thanks a lot for this video.
Beautiful Canadian airplane
Made in China airplane or didn't you hear what that guy said at the beginning?
That was so interesting !!! Boeing could learn a lesson or two from these people for sure !!!
The Airbus host was so well versed he was a pleasure to listen to...
Wow this is fascinating and so glad you were able to show this to us all. I know locally here in Australia that Qantas has bought A220 aircraft to replace some older aircraft and great that they are super fuel efficient so they can even fly long haul well medium haul at least. Looking forward to fly in one eventually.
I flew on the first passenger demo flight of A220 with airBaltic, December 5, 2016. It was called Bombardier CS300; still have the souvenir poster in my home office. Back then it felt such an improvement over other short haul aircraft. Now I'm just used to it and it feels standard.
What an excellent video to watch ... the guy showing you around is so enthusiastic and knowledgeable ..
The A220 is by far my favorite narrow body on the market.
Beautiful plane.
I love the A220 from an aesthetic point of view. Very pretty and cool. Never tried to fly in one, but would love to try!
They are so nice to fly in. Very smooth and very well rounded aircraft. Not loud at all and very comfortable!
@@Crickeyyit looks very modern as well. Airbus has been killing Boeing lately
Thank god you're not an A220 pilot then. I would be scared if a pilot said they weren't trying to fly.
Such a beautiful aircraft to fly in. So smooth and quiet
Nobody is going to let you "try" and fly their airplane.
I flew on Air France's F-HZUY A220 last year. Really impressed - lovely aircraft
Flew the A220 for the first time with Air Baltic last week. Nice airplane.
Fascinating. Had the opportunity to tour this plant when Bombardier had developed the C-Series and saw the prototypes being finished. At that time most of the factory was used for assembling CR700/900s.
I was surprised to learn that Bombardier has the lead in business jets sales. I also like when they're being modified as military aircraft. As a Quebecker, I feel proud. :):)
Your provincial pension plan put almost a billion into getting Bombardier to that place.
@@davidbalcon8726 Not exactly. CDPQ invested in the former Bombardier Transport (rail) but not in the C Series. You probably meant Investissement Québec (IQ), which is the government's investment arm. IQ is the co-owner of the A220 programme in a joint venture with Airbus (25% - 75%) until at least 2035 when the programme is expected to be fully profitable and IQ able to recoup its investment. After that Airbus will own 100% of the programme.
Flew on the A220 about 2 years ago to Mtl and connected to another to Vancouver. Great airplane.
Beatiful aircraft! I'm glad we have so many here in Switzerland! Very bright cabin
Last year I was going from Yul to SFO and changed the date to fly the A220 Air Canada, my original date was on a 737. Such an enjoyable flight.
Mad respect to Québec !!! 🛩
amazing plane! thanks for the inside look
My favourite plane. Such a beauty.
Fascinating stuff. This video is great and look forward to the next ones in this series. It is especially nice to hear from employees who clearly have some enthusiasm and joy in sharing their work. Thanks!
Thank you very much for this very informative and very interesting report about the A 220 production lines in Mirabel!🙂👍So far as I know Airbus renewed much of it with a huge investment after they took the former C-Series production over back in 2018. It´s indeed a great Aircraft, really one of the 21st Century! I´m looking forward for the further episode of this series!🧡
wasn't their huge investment expertise not money? They bought a 50% stake for one dollar!
@@briankenney1433 Probably only for one dollar because they detected before making the deal how much money they would have to spend before the production line in Mirabel would work efficient and proper.
Nolinor last week, Airbus Canada this week….seems like you made the rounds in Mirabel!! Hopefully you visited the coolest hangar of them all, Pratt & Whitney Flight Test!!
Pratt in a world of pain atm doubt they are too keen to open up
@@big_g_dog World of pain?? Customers continue to order GTF planes (including the A220) in droves despite field learning, new government funding for F35 engine upgrade…doesn’t sound too painful to me. Sound like you just read the headlines
@@HappyJack19 sounds like you don't know what you're on about... Customers ordering an Airbus powered with GTF won't get their aircraft until 2027-2031 depending on on A220 / A320 family so the firm assumption is the problems will be rectified (subject to supply chain and labour issues have been resolved by then).... 65+ A220 grounded due to engine problems requiring rectifications, 175 days to get an engine through for a hospital shop visit, 200 days to induct and engine for a PRSV. P&W can't build enough spare engines for their current customers or enough engines to service the worldwide fleet whilst hundreds of PW1100G's are AOG with 70+ aircraft in Indigo's fleet grounded due to H&H conditions HPCs blowing up, significantly reduced TBO's and no spare engines to keep the aircraft flying PLUS powdered metal issues only just being resolved? And they aren't in trouble?
@@big_g_dog HPC’s blowing up…..You really are clueless. And you’re right, world wide aerospace supply chain issues are only impacting Pratt 🙄… Keep reading the headlines bud
😂😂😂@@HappyJack19
Beautiful aircraft 😍
It looks amazing
A very subtle but notable difference in the factory between Airbus and Boeing. Airbus assembly gives top priority to assembly quality, Boeing, assembly quantity. Most visible in the pressure on the employees. Airbus: Get it done right with meticulous attention to details, with fully integrated departments working in close cooperation, from designers to engineers to component assemblies to final assembly. Boeing, compartmentalized, each operation first and foremost under the gun to achieve rapid assembly, engineering nowhere in sight. QC is focused on production numbers and make the boardroom and stockholders happy.
We call that "stepping over a dollar to save a dime".
C series is such a nice aircraft.
This is very very interesting on how the modern aircraft industry of today assemble one of Airbus A220 aircraft.
Very insightful video, Gabriel. Thanks for sharing and eagerly await parts 2 and 3.
I really enjoyed that thank you, and I’ll be looking out for the next episode of this A220 series 👌
So exited about the series of videos to come! i love the A220
Very modern looking plane yes
My first flight on this plane was Breeze Airways to Orange County. Such a quiet, comfortable flight. Is the a220 facility open to us regulars to visit? I've been thinking about going to the Mobile one but haven't seen any definitive answers.
Flew on Air Baltic A220's a few times, nice aircraft.
Love the way the A220 looks. Think it might be my new favorite Airbus. After the A380 that is.
What an amazing assembly system for an excellent aircraft and well done the Mirabel team. Nice one.
Got about 200hrs on it so far, she flies beautifully.
Nice!
Qantaslink here in Australia have 34 A220-300s on order with 4 delivered so far to replace fokker 70 &100 plus Embraer E190s.
I thought the A220s for Qantaslink were replacing the Boeing 717s.
@@aeroman5239 them too I should have said😂
Flew a JetBlue 220 BOS-SJU last winter and for a single aisle plane of that size feels roomy and comfy. I think the Delta version includes a window on the rear section restroom.
great video. waiting on the next
Interesting and excellent as per usual Gabriel, I never knew the center fuselage was produced in China, which then make me laugh when people say they won't fly on Chinese made commercial aircraft but are ok on the Airbus platform.
Yes , but made to airbuses specifications.
Still waiting for the A220 in MSFS. Can't wait for the one in development to be released.
Great job with this interview!
Did Paris-Athens on an Air France A220, it's a great plane.
While the kudos for designing this wonderful bird obviously go to Bombardier, Airbus really know how to do manufacturing and run their business. Just awesome, and I am kinf od sad that so far, i only had the chance to fly on one of them once. I would like to get that number up...
Hi, TAAG’s just received their brand new A220 this week September 30th.
Can’t wait to see a video on FlightRadar24 RUclips channel
Bienvenue à Mirabel!
You could go see Bell Helicopter too, it is @ biking distance...
It's kind of frightening when you see just how thin the planes are, but a very impressive operation. Extremely interesting film.
I do enjoy your videos but especially those dealing with engineering / technical matters. Pls keep it up.
Can see the TAAG in the background. She passed through Dublin this week or one of them did. 😊
Indeed. And in the foreground was another one ordered by Air France.
@@NicolaW72 yeh but thats boring! 🤣
TAAG passed through Dublin and Faro on its way to Luanda
@@aydoyt sorry I meant Dublin! In the old days every passed thru Shannon on a pond fuel stop. 🤣
@@belugast Probably.😄 - But Air France is with 60 orders of A 220-300 and until now 37 deliveries one of the largest customers of this aircraft model.
I got the chance to fly on Delta airlines A220-200/300 aircraft in 2023. I was very impressed with how well the aircraft performed and how much room they have inside the cabin. I’m a bit of a fluffy guy and I felt like delta’s economy plus section was pretty good for the A220 series.
Great video, Keep up the good work!!
Very cool video. Can’t wait for the next ones, as I am flying the 220 I find it interesting so see how it’s built and also what goes on behind the doors. Many thanks Gabriel @airedition
Great video
Hi Gabriel - a fascinating look behind the scenes! I've visited Boeing at Everett and Airbus at Toulouse but, sadly, without your access!
Were you allowed to record on customer acceptance flights? That would be great to see.
Look forward to see a stretched A220-500 CEO/NEO 😜
Excellent video - as always ! There is a tiny little exception though: In the final assembly line footage shown does not fit well to the commentary.
10:47 "hat racks" - epic comment. Last time i saw a hat rack in a commercial airliner was in a 1967 built Boeing 727-100 😀
Still a great Canadian plane wish they would stretch it
Go Canada go!! (please work on the costs but go go go!)
I hope the A220 cockpit design such as trackball and wide screens makes it into the A320. If airbus implemented connected, physically moving sidesticks, it would be the perfect cockpit. Maybe with a dark interior, but thats just subjective
u cant do that with sidesticks its just too small to fit that much hardware thats why Boeing decided to not use them and use yokes even on their FBW planes, to mechanically link the 2 and also haptic feedback to simulate non-FBW controls
@@Inquisite1031 i meam gulfstream did it with their sidesticks. They wouldnt even have to be mechanically linked, just with software and motors in the sidestick assembly to mimic each others movement
Another great video. Very informative. I like how they use FR24 to monitor the airborne A220s. Can’t wait for episode 2. Oh by the way Mobile, Alabama is profunde Mo-bill, not mo-bile. 😅
mo-beel actually
Hey Gabe, great video, love the A220. I hear the aim is 14 per month, how long does it take from arrival to finish?
Very nice! 👍
Love the A220, hopefully will start replacing the 737, love the 2-3 isle vs 3-3
flew on one 3 days ago with Air France 2 + 3 config. Very cool and capable aircraft. I was just thinking about possible cross sectional inbalance due to the config. HOw is it compensated on design level ? Also at one time aircraft seemed to bank more than 30%. Is it possible or was it just my impression ?
Excellent! Fliegerfaust. ;-)
thanks
Air France is replacing the A318 baby bus on many routes by the A220, Like Hamburg to Paris CDG which I take frequently.
For as much as I’m sad to see the baby bus go this is also a very comfortable aircraft and Air France has equipped interior super nice not to mention they still have great quality service and drinks even on short flights with Europe compared to Lufthansa and which make you pay for everything nowadays….
The aircraft looks lovely. One on the nose for Boeing that tried to kill it.
Why
Thats awesome ❤❤❤
Do they make the JetBlue A220's in Canada? I thought they had to make them in Mobile to avoid tariffs or is that all over now?
Contractual obligations with US carriers and limited capacity at Mobile necessitate some built in Mirabel to meet delivery dates. In 2018, US International Trade Committee ruled against Boeing; thereby abolishing the tariffs.
Looking at google earth i am trying to see where that new Building is at @12:20
Look at the airbus mirabel site on google maps, new building is exacly where some clown marked a pizza forno location.
The new "Caravelle".🍾🎆👍
14 aircraft per month is impressive
Only things I don’t like about this plane is 1, the GPWS, 2, the doors aren’t like the A320’s doors
I live in Hawaii (Kailua, Oahu). Been flying X-Plane since version 4. Over the ensuing years this sim has made great progress both in flight physics and scenery depiction, but until it incorporates photo realistic scenery, it will eventually lose out to the MS flight sim. This scenery upgrade to X-Plane 12 is good but not great. The addition of boats did not include any sail boats in the Hawaiian waters, that I could spot on a flight from Honolulu International to Molokai. On Oahu I did not see any boats docked at the marinas or sailing off Waikiki.
It's Canadian !!!!
Phoque genocidal Canada, which did all it could to sabotage the C-series program... This plane is from Québec and that's the reason it was pillaged...
it's pronounced Mo-Beal hahaha. great video
Mirabel is not where there A220 "all started". This awesome aircraft was designed and built by by a Canadian manufacturer before being poached by Airbus!
Mirabel is where it all started, actually. This is where Bombardier designed and built the CSeries. Airbus bought the program and took over/expanded the facilities.
In your face Boeing! They tried to kill it and failed. A220 loved all over the world with lots on order. ❤️🇨🇦
What role does N.Ireland have in the building of the A220?
Belfast Builds the wings & some of the mid fuselage’s dual source with china
Mid fuselage and the wings. Built by the highly skilled workers at Spirit Belfast
RIP Bombardier
Great video and insight!! Why do they manufacture the fuselage in China?
China produces 28% of the world's manufacturing output, the largest in the world. Airbus get products from China the same reason why the majority of us do: cost. Stop being controlled by political propaganda and realize everything is about money.
Not the fault of the guy explaining but it was very business process focused and therefore very dry. I'm more interested in the aircraft themselves, not Airbus's processes.
all good, but why do you still build in China??? Was not Boeing having some issues with titanium parts coming from China that are titanium on paper?
737Max Crashes or hatch blown away because of the China Parts? Or Boeing's own stupidity?
Airbus should have kept its originals A320, A350 and A380. It has clear cut commonality and clear cut size separation.
A220 and A330 are just step downs or orphans
I think we all know what equipped means
i agree , two plus three seat's beside ! enough ...sometimes between " two " unkown people could be 🤢 ...
are enough fuel inside for transatlantic hopp'ing ?
Marea turbo
Tell infinite flight to add air senegal, qantas and angola A220 !
👍
Airbus stole the ownership from Bombardier!!!!!
Nothing was stolen. Airbus bought a majority stake in the aircraft program, a business deal that Bombardier was a willing part of.
Bombardier ran their operation like a family business.
No wonder they went bankrupt
Canabus
Bombardier designed one of the best plane and had to give it away because of Boeing shady lobbying.