How Qantas Gave Airbus The Confidence To Increase The Range Of The A220
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- Опубликовано: 10 май 2023
- Back when the A220 was the Bombardier CSeries, designers had worked to bring airline customers a plane they would love. Feedback from potential customers was that they wanted a bigger cabin, larger windows, more space for baggage, and connectivity (such as inflight WiFi) designed in. Bombardier delivered all that and more, in an airplane that was long-range, comfortable, capable, and efficient.
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Bombardier did such a good job, it's a shame they don't still have their name on this wonderful airplane
either they kept the name or died.
They should thank the Canadian tax payer for enabling their work.
You can blame Boeing for that. Airbus saved the CSeries.
@@techdefined9420exactly.
As an Aussie I'm super excited that Qantas has these jets coming!
It will be more exciting when the Dash8s go away.
dash8s are staying 717s are going@@magical_catgirl
The A220 is an outstanding machine that just keeps on getting better the more you look in to what its capable of.
Except it's still not making money. Hoping Airbus can optimise production costs, as I love flying the A220 (done a lot of LCY to ZRH on Swiss) and think it's an extremely cool plane.
It will be in production for the next 20 years@@bjorn2625
It’s a pile of garbage…ask mechanics
@justing42 he is correct. I work on the 100s and 300s and they're always broken. Engine changes all the time and constant issues
Great for larger countries like Canada, USA, Mexico, Brazil and Australia
Yep
Mexico? Russia and China
@benwilson6145 my list wasn't exhaustive. That's why I said "countries like". Just giving examples.
Flew the jet once. absolutely loved it's. Outside noise, cabin design, spacious and comfortable seats. Great product
The A220 is an icon 👍
I flew the Baltic Air a220 once and was extremely pleasantly surprised by the comfort
As a ramp agent, its the only plane that I can bring in without hearing protection if I needed to because its so quiet
The Bombardier C series is truly a Canadian engineering marvel. Airbus will be able to take the a 220 to the next level.
The flying public loves it as pilots and airlines.
Cheers 🇨🇦
If it has the range to do Sydney to Perth and Wellington then it's exactly what QANTAS needs to replace it's aging B.737 fleet.
I’d rather fly the A220 over a 737 or A321neo. So long range is good
The extended range is certainly a benefit for Qantas, but with fewer than 30 orders so far, and the order coming in so late in the life of the A220, I'm not it was that big a deal
Qantas have always had a preference for aircraft types with unique modifications due to its unique geographic location. Ultimately, the range works for Australia and North America due to the sizes of those regions, and for a low cost carrier who wants to operate on that model of business, but doesn't quite work as well as the A320 and 737 for midsize needs. That's why some airlines are pushing for a 500 version.
Ultimately, size still matters.
Beautiful aircraft A 220 and a long range well done
Such a beautiful little aircraft
When it's in the "Air.".....not sitting on the ground , searching for it's long lost replacement engines , which no one really knows when that will be !!
@@SRT-fv6wr at least it didn't get more severely mass-grounded due to some crashes.
And why did that pitch down while the pilots forcefully tried to keep it in the "Air"?
@@SRT-fv6wr yawn change the record, stop watching this channel
@@serkandevel7828 he forgets to mention that
It is a fantastic aircraft. The level of comfort is so good. ✈️
Just flew the inaugural PVD-LAX on Breeze. It was just as comfortable as my EWR-SAN flight on UAL, maybe even more so with the 2-3 layout.
A220-500 (if) that has 6000km range....would be a truly a game changer
This is now my favorite airplane. Also love the 787 and pending 777x. But the A220 300 is just so super cool in ways that are hard to explain.
Boooooring.
Until you have to work on them. It is junk.
Boeing prolly still kicking themselves over taking down Bombardier, and now made the program stronger with Airbus
Loved flying on the A220. Very comfortable; I'd happily do longer trips on it
the A220-300 in ACJ specification would do great as a long range large cabin private jet . . . 23 - 28 paxs plus 5 crew . . .
Believe the A220 in ACJ does 10,465km
you could argue that c-series was designed to fly cross Canada, probably from St. Johns to like Vancouver/Victoria. most limits on aircraft, range/mtow, are typically very conservative, so if you fly test flights with known safety margins and prove consistently the aircraft can still perform the mission with high safety guarantees, ya you can help increase those limits
The airplane was designed without consideration of Canada. The Canadian market is simply too small for that.
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183The engineers who worked on the A220 do fly Toronto within their country, though, so unlike European engineers, they have intimate experience with the breed for an airliner for long skinny routes, whether we're taking Halifax - Vancouver, Perth- Auckland, Chicago-Honolulu, or Dublin-Qatar!
Something people are forgetting is that we (as in Airbus) are plagued by these Pratt and Whitney engine delays.. trust me.. we are getting destroyed by it also.
sounds good
Note sure what city pairs the increased range will open the 220 for Qantas. Qantas had both F28s and BAe146s im its fleet in past to serve outside of Melbourne-Sydney-Brisbane corridor. The A220 is the perfect size for it. But not sure it didn't already have range to serve Darwin-Cairns or other city pairs. I guess flights from Perth are more range intensive.
The increased MTOW also allows QF to sacrifice range for extra cargo which is likely what they are more happy about.
Lots of long thin potential, possibly out of Canberra or Adelaide but also north qld to Syd or Mel , as well as WA mining as you point out.
Question. I was interested in the numbers, what are the actual range numbers, both the old and the new?
The A220 is shaping up to be the Swiss (airlines) army knife of the single-aisle aviation market I always hoped it would be!
Sadly all that range has come at a price with so many airlines having to deal with the engine issues. Hopefully that will be resolved quickly.
I am not sure that they are in any way related.
Increasing the MTOW doesn't mean that they will be loaded more, just that they can be. It is quite possible that during their life, they may never reach the old loading limits.
Several Europen airlines that use them on their shorter European routes have those issues - notably the Lufthansa Group.
That family of engines is causing the same problems on other aircraft - particularly the A320neo series aircraft they are fitted on.
That’s on P&W but at this point I have little hope left for them to resolve the issues so I believe Airbus should get ready to expect cancellations from customers angry at P&W as CFM’s plate is completely fill to be offering a LEAP engine variant even if they wanted to (their exclusive for 737 Max which has more orders now it’s original 2018 peak, it has 70% of the engine market on A320neo which has 1000 to 2000 more orders due customers angry at P&W over identical issues and is the only engine currently available for the A320 knockoff C919 until a Chinese engine is ready to be the exclusive power plant)
any excuse for a dig at Airbus
Best plane in the air.
Haven't had a chance to catch a flight on this great plane, but if I had a choice between the A220 and a 737/A320 to fly more than three hours, I'd definitely pick the A220.
Why would you "definitely" fly it and how have you already made up your mind what the better aircraft is for that type of flight if you've never flown it before? Sounds like you're just a sheep that takes on everyone else's opinions.
If nothing else, QANTAS have certainly been pivotal in the development of many aircraft by requesting increases in range and efficiency.
my god y’all need to make those conference calls quieter
Or do away with the conference calls altogether
so annoying
Didn't Breeze also request longer-range a220s?
The A220 is outstanding
Whats the extended range?
Problem: volume.
Quiet, polite and fuel efficient. How can you tell it's a Designed/Made in Canada product? That's how...
Get lost with genocidal Canada. This plane was made and conceived in Quebec. It was sabotaged by Canada. Stop stealing the shine of something your fellow “nice” Canadians wished dead… sickening
Rob sounds like he grew up in St Leonard...
PW engines is it’s biggest limitation.
I wonder If we see a A220-300TA (Trans Atlantic 7400 km range)
Why not, since the 737Max is already in such service? Boston-Oslo, Halifax -Madrid, Charlotte - Lisbon?
I wonder why Southeast Asian airlines are not flocking to this airplane in droves, given its range. Most SEAsian airlines have operations of flying from key cities to thin, far flung destinations, often on multiple legs, and turning around their airplanes without refueling, hence the need for range.
I’m sad because when the a220 comes it will replace the qantas A330 😢 I will miss the qantas A330😭
Normalize that volume please...
No point having the aircraft range when PW can’t service the engines forcing airlines into long term grounding, and Airbus are delivering A220s at a snails pace. Qantas will now be lucky to see this aircraft in 2024.
First airframe (VH-X4A) delivered before Xmas ''23. 2nd airframe rolled out of factory before new years day ''24 with 18 more to come.
It wasn’t solely Qantas. Very rarely these days do manufacturers just improve the MTOW to boost range or load just for 1 airline
This plane just goes from success to success. A few hiccups along the way, but this is a plane that's really 1 step back, and 2 steps forward.
If I buy a private jet I would want an a220.
bruh why is the sound from your guest so loud??
Gah, the audio really needs to be re balanced in this video. There is way too much difference in volume between the two voices who speak.
Increase in range of a220 will complete with the a320 which they should rather avoid
Get rid of that Pratt and Whitney engine first!
Easier said than done !!!
The A220 can replace the A319neo
I ll not be surprised, if Quantas will chose A220 for project Sunrise 😂
a couple of drop tanks...should be okay
The 220 needs a New Engine Option;)
First
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The A220 is a very versatile narrow body aircraft which Boeing doesn't have to match the it.
The ,A220is the A320 replacement
Ryanair oder of 300 ,737max...... wonder what Airbus is thinking....
A320 is not appealing its seems
They're not thinking anything. Ryanair thought they chose the airplane that always fit them best, and hands down, that was the Boeing 737, and not any Airbus.
Not to forget that Ryanair backed Boeing and the 737 max 8 in its darkest hour and placed an order. I’m sure that Michael O’Leary drove a hard bargain on the unit price in those circumstances.
At the time, it was the only good news that Boeing had.
He knew that supporting Boeing at that time would be good for them and an excellent business deal for him.
Unlistenable,
Airbus had done NONE of what you are talking about and please state why has Bombardier sold the CSeries contract for 1 dollar to Airbus... I Worked on this Contract for almost 9 years until it was given away to them.. This the Avro Arrow once again.... SHAME......
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