@@kh2b573 Not only Canadian design, Airbus fly-by-wire commonality! Pilots certified on the A320 can fly the A220 almost immediately as commonality is over 95% with the A320 family!
Well, actually, it's been competing with the Airbus 110 and Airbus 320's so the future of the C-series is still in question. The Airbus deal was necessary due to Boeing's manipulation of the US toddler government but it was still a bad but necessary deal for Bombardier and though a great deal for Airbus, they really don't need it.
@@johnwang9914 The Airbus 110? The A220 isn't competing with the A320. Yes the smallest A320 has overlap with the largest A220. (seating A220 = 100-160, A320 = 100-240). Also realise that these planes operate in the market with the highest demand (75% of planes sold and built by Airbus and Boeing are in this range). And lets face it with 631 A220 and 5958 A320 on order I think both planes are viable. One very important selling point for the A220 is, it can land at regional airports (it is the largest plane to operate at London City Airport)
This is close to perfect aircraft. I have great experience of flying A220, even 6,5 hours flight to Abu Dhabi was great experience. Comfortable, quiet and efficient, plane which is hard to compare with B737. Especially it looks good with AirBaltic livery.
Yes, it's very nice. I'd rather fly A220 than any B737 or A320 family. While A319(neo) may look similar in capability, it absolutely sucks in comparison as flier experience goes.
I had the chance to fly on it with AirBaltic when it was still called the CS300. Although its revolutionary efficiency is its main selling point you forgot to mention the passenger comfort factor which makes it a win-win for both passengers and airlines. Other aircraft of this segment like the A320neo and the 737s are absolutely crammed in coach. This is where the A220 excels. The unusual, 2-3 seating configuration with a wider middle seat (at least on AirBaltic), huge windows, quiet cabin and airy cabin makes that A220 the first choice of any frequent flyer. Well done Bombardier and Airbus
This is why I liked my flight onboard a Loganair ERJ 145 a month ago as the layout is 2 - 1 although no doubt the cabin felt a bit tight but I git my own window seat without sitting next to anyone
@@Fordprefect1000 wieird, I had great experience with them on multiple occasions, what I meant by great is that they were cheap tickets, and the flights were perfectly on time, the crew wasn't particularly nice but I had no problem with them anyway
@@notproplayer3649 They treat their customers like criminals. I have flown them many times and they got worse and worse. Being treated like shit is not in the contract. I have flown 30 airlines and they are by far the stand out worst in the world as far as I am concerned. Rude, aggressive and unfair. A zero star airline.
@@Fordprefect1000 wieird, flew with them a handful of times (4 times at least) and every time was pretty good. I do understand that you might have had a different experience than mine though.
Having recently flown an Embraer -190 (AF) I would strongly endorse the use of single aisle low capacity aircraft . Very comfortable , rapid access and disembarcation . I must say that particular aircraft was very comfortable .
@@rafaelcamargomassagli5432 As a Canadian I also have lots of respect for Embraer and its superb engineering capacity. Both the E195E2 and its direct competitor the A220-100 have room in the market. The E2 is ideal for the low costs / no frills airlines or the regionals (as the E2 is cheaper to buy, has excellent CASM - but the cabin is a little more cramped). However, in areas where scope clauses exist, the E190/195E2 is a little too close to the 76 seat regional category - which might be an unfair fight due to the lower wages in the regionals. The A220 is more for the major airlines (due to its more roomy/comfortable cabin, its excellent CASM, its better short fields / higher elevation performance and its greater range)
Normally, without covid, I travel for a living. The Embraer E170/175 is far more comfortable than the competition. It is far and away my favorite jet to travel in. I've never had a chance to fly in the A220 though. It looks very similar and I assume would be just as nice or better.
@@FlexibleToast True, the E175, although tiny compared to most jetliners, actually flies higher and faster than early generation 737's! SAN-PHX in 45 minutes! Although seating can be cramped on a small 50 seater, the seats are plush and more comfortable than thee 737!
I work for Delta and we haven't gotten them yet but what's funny is that is feature we are all most excited about to see in person 😂😂we clean them and such and its funny out of all the things that legit pretty cool
Too bad Bombardier couldn’t make the program a success on their own as I was keen for them to break the Airbus-Boeing duopoly for single aisles. While I am glad to see the plane successful under Airbus, it means there is even less negotiating power to lower the prices compared to before when it was in Bombardier’s hands because before the Delta big order and the whole tariffs thing it gave Boeing and Airbus the chance to offer even lower prices to key valuable customers who Bombardier tried to sell the plane to
The 300% tariff forced Bombardier into Airbus' arms sadly. Boeing really knows how to shoot themselves in the foot. The best present they could give to Airbus.
Agree with you. We probably won't see a competitor to Airbus / Boeing for many year due to the HUGE barrier to entry. The duopoly (well Boeing mostly) will give away airplanes to ensure the new entrant goes bankrupt... (by example, Boeing offered United brand new 737-700s at $23M each - to prevent a CSeries sale)
We all know what Boeing managers tried to do - to save their super-old 373ies out of desperation in response to Bombardiers superior planes by applying USA first rules. Airbus stepped in at the right moment and saved the brand. The A220 is comfortable, roomy and quiet with large windows: from the passenger perspective a true winner! Apparently also from the cost perspective.
I flew a Qantas A330 from Perth to Brisbane, then I had to fly to Roma. The B717 was too small to accept my hand luggage and special arrangements had to be made. Pathetic. They need to junk those B717s asap.
@Professor Mike AmericanuckRadio any idea if it the 220 can handle the rapid pressurization cycles better than a 737? As I recall that was an issue with the old 737s in Hawaii...one ended up as a convertible in the '80s. Of course, the cool thing about the 220's range is that it can also swap for routes to the West Coast as well to raise the average stage length.
Recently flew the A220 between Toronto and Montreal…. It was absolutely stunning. Gorgeous cabin, smooth, quiet and extremely advanced. Really excited to see the A220 flourish
Boeing tried that join them short lived strategy with Embraer but that never worked out because the EU refused the deal to protect Airbus and because of the trouble Boeing put themselves in meaning they wanted to focus on their recovery first
Airbus could probably have beaten it, as said in the video the fuel consumption isn't that far off from a A320 and none of those constructors construct their own engines anyways. It just take a decade or more to design and start productions of planes and they took a bad bet with the hub system and the A380 so they needed a quick fix. It was a great move for Airbus but more of a shortcut to reinforce their share of that more & more popular market than anything.
I absolutely adore flying with the A220. It‘s my favourite jet. Quiet, good legroom, nearly no turbulances, big windows. You just feel that it‘s the winning jet!
And turbulence is turbulence. For a little plane, the laws of physics will make turbulence felt with only a tiny difference made by the design of the hardware and software of the plane.
Not enough is said about the noise cancelling system within the fuselage walls. A technology developed by Bombardier for its noisier Dash8/Q400 turboprops. This combined with the geared Pratt & Whitney PW1500G turbofan jet engines makes for a very quiet flight.
I was in first class on Delta. It was really nice with a top notch entertainment system. I spoke to the pilots and checked out the flight deck. Massive MFDs and side controls provided a spacious work environment. Much more comfortable than my 747 office...
It seems quite unusual to see the insane amount of love for this aircraft. I haven't been on one yet, but it seems everyone who has, raves about them. Hopefully airlines will plan on having plenty of them around for a while.
I flew on the A220 with Air Baltic and it is the nicest feeling plane I have been on. Being a short haul flight I'm not talking about entertainment systems etc, but the spaciousness, and the feeling of atmosphere / quality of the cabin and toilets etc was the best I can remember.
Yeah, it just feels very nice to be there, hard to explain exactly why. Nothing compares in my experience. It just feels nice, even compared to say business class in B767 or A330 I were flying with (of course business class in wide body aircraft is way more posh than economy in A220, but feeling just isn't there).
And if you do use both metric and Imperial systems then don't bother converting to the nearest decimal place, that just makes it confusing, round to the nearest hundred!
soaringtractor It’s still more convenient to have the numbers there for viewing purposes, instead of having to go and convert them every time a number appears.
EXACTLY! Get certified on one A220, such as the A220-100, and you are instantly certified on the 200 and 300 also. Plus, it will be a shallow learning curve for the A320 neo, A330 neo, even the A350! It is possible for A220 pilots to be proficient on the entire Airbus product line in a few short years!
@@rodgerringland405 But you can only have one active certification valid at any given time so pilots only re-train so they can advance up the pay scale or join a different airline, outside of company training due to newer or different aircraft types joining a fleet.
@@iamijhhagga1394 No, simply no. Its level of comfort, simplicity and design cant compare. The E-190s were using the same old sleet design since they made it, Bombardier made a perfect one, and did both did their homework, its just that its need to be improved.
Happy to see the A220 getting love! Still sad though that this should have stayed as the C-Series and been a success for Bombardier. The whole BS complaint to the FTC to impose tariffs on it is one of reasons I lost respect for Boeing, at least their executive team.
Boeing was entirely correct to file their dumping complaint with the FTC, and had a reasonable request that they tariff it to the actual cost of building at $30m per unit. It was the FTC going ham setting it at 300% that was the real issue. Selling planes at a 33% loss is entirely illegal in the US. There is no problem with the complaint from Boeing.
@@dfor How about the 787? Wasn't it also sold at huge losses? As you know, the first 100 or so planes cost more to built (expensive parts, FAL not up to optimum pace etc). And worst, you also got to sell the early aircrafts cheaper as the new product has an unknown reliability, requires different training and maintenance/parts logistic. And can become an orphant if the manufacturer stops building it (or if BBD goes bangkrupt). -->> Every totally new aircraft programs are sold at a loss in the beginning, don't you know that?? --> That dumping complaint was dis-honest to start off, as Boeing did NOT make any aircraft in the CS100 category, nor did it offer any in the Delta's request for proposal (except for some second hand Brazillian built E190E1s - which Delta did buy from Boeing, but resold right after). Boeing elected to re-engine / patch the old 737 instead of making a new narrowbody aircraft. They also elected to vacate the below 150 seats market (now taken by the CSeries). Really, Boeing deserve 100% their current situation. Boeing executives openly said they wanted to bangkrupt Bombardier. Anyways to acheive it was fair game apparently. I have no sympathy whatsoever anymore for Boeing. They invest in legal wars instead of safe and efficient aircraft manufacturing. Extremely happy that Airbus took over the program, and shows the world how good the CSeries is.
Douglas Forsyth except the FTC ultimately ruled in favor of Bombardier in 2018 so Boeing was in the wrong. And don’t get me started on all the tax breaks and “loans” Boeing receives at the state and federal level.
Douglas Forsyth the US manufacturers get a huge amount of government support to Boeing through lucrative Defence contracts. This is a leader that Bombardier did not have. Boeing practices predatory selling practices such as buying a customer’s existing Airbus planes so they can sell them Boeing planes, does that not amount to dumping?Bombardier was trying to establish their market and sell the first planes aggressively to establish that market. Boeing does similar things but they have more leavers to cover up what they are doing. Boeing put Bombardier out of business without a directly competing product in their offering and the US government was their accomplice. Shame on Boeing and the US government .
I've been on a 2,5h flight with Air Baltic. I was excited to get to the A220. It's quieter than the A320s and 737s. Seats were pretty firm and a little too low for me. I can't see myself in an 7hr trans atlantic flight is such a plane. But I'll fly it again when I get the chance. Best seats to me are Embraer E1 seats (although A/C is horrible at these planes).
Even back in the 90s Bombardier stated it would not build an aircraft in this size range unless it could build one superior to anything else out there. What is often forgotten is that Bombardier was competing with Embraer and Embraer had aircraft in this side category but Bombardier was reluctant to go into the category without some clear advantage in design. So in some sense Bombardier was under pressure to build such and aircraft. That said the US response was to insure there would be no competition in design or engineering in Canada putting a near 400% tariff on a plane that did not even compete with any of their products. It is also a fact that Boeing is the most subsidized company in the US. This was particularly made more difficult when the extra cost Bombardier had to accept developing a superior aircraft. So the American government succeeded in destroy one of Canada's biggest companies while being rewarded by having a portion of the 220 being built in the US. This leaves Canada as a either a branch plant or component producing company with no design or engineering of our own. Economists keep claiming countries must innovate, but how is that done when the US destroys Canadian companies and keeps design and engineering to itself. Canadian governments need to check to see if they are being offered coolaid when considering so called free trade. Unless there are overwhelming advantages we should reject the Super hornet and F35 in favour of the Saab Grippen.
You should be MUCH MORE CLEAR and state fuel efficiency as miles per gallon PER PASSENGER, not just miles per gallon! Obviously the plane cannot fly over 100 miles per gallon, but must divide the fuel consumed per passenger to get the numbers you cite in your video.
@Maxwell Smart no, I don't remember because I'm not British and I wasn't even born yet. And I think 40 years is more than enough to get used to the SI units.
@Maxwell SmartYes, SI, that's how the metric system is actually called. Whether you like it or not, English wasn't always the international language of science.
EXACTLY! The biggest plane carries maybe 4000 gallons, tops, which would be one mile per gallon. EXCELLENT for any size jetliner, with absolutely unbeatable seat-mile costs and trip costs! The A220 will be a cash cow for any airline that flies it. Southwest's 737 fleet is due for overhaul or retirement in a decade or so, it will be a win-win situation for Southwest!
market um actually it is bombardier, it is the bombardier c series but they had trouble so they had a loan from airbus and they renamed it and added a joystick to it
I see a MAJOR advantage in downsizing regarding planes: Fewer Emissions, wider offerings in point-2-point destinations, shorter boarding times, a more private feeling onboard ... I mean, it's like big size private jet.
@@ronschout5201 Indeed, and kudo for the excellent job done by the Mobile workers (all trained by Bombardier employees in Mirabel, and later in Mobile). Airbus makes planes in Mobile (A320 and A220-300) to avoid possible stupid tariffs.
Not really. Put on sale for over 10 years now and sold around 600 units and only being produced at four a month With your ports it probably will get cut to two a month
I’ve flown on a Swiss a220 from Thessaloniki-Zurich. The flight was amazing and really quiet. The windows were really big as well. Definitely one of the favorite flights that I’ve flown on
The fact that Boeing took shots at Bombardier and it ended up helping Airbus, and Boeing has no narrowbody answer to Airbus because their fatal product is banned, and now Covid has killed the widebody demand. Absolutely everything has gone in Airbus’ favor and there’s nothing I can do about it. Next thing Airbus will get the rights to the Irkut MC-21, the 787 will get banned, and Boeing will still do absolutely nothing. We’re headed straight towards monopoly. This plane was Bombardier but now is Airbus. Now anything “the future” is Airbus which is humiliating for Boeing and they dropped the ball completely. 2020 made 2019’s mistakes even worse.
@@ecoRfan That's what we call karma. When a company lose it originality and characteristic, try to screws its respectable competitors (C-series), it is doomed to fail.
@@ecoRfan Look at the existing planes on offer: The A350-900 is only 400 miles shorter on range than the Boeing 777-200 LR. The A350-900 ULR absolutely buries any competition, including the yet to be released Boeing 777-8 by 461 miles! The Boeing 777-8 will offer a range of 10,703 miles, while Singapore Airlines Airbus A350-900 ULR's can fly 11,164 miles! The A350-1000 ULR, if released, will use the same technology as the 900 ULR while carrying even more fuel and could become the first plane to fly 12,000 miles nonstop in commercial service which is the EXACT goal of Project Sunrise. The A220 is perfect for domestic flights, especially in Australia, small enough for slot constrained, tight airports, while offering medium capacity and flying nearly 4,000 miles covering over 90% of the domestic market. Not to mention it will be much more fuel efficient than the 737 and possibly better than the larger A320 or A321!
This is my favorite narrow body ever made. The windows are huge the space is amazing its comfortable efficient it's quiet inflight it's range is amazing. Just an amazing experience for a 5 hour flight way better than any 737 or 320 product ever.
I just flew forth and back to Edmonton. The outward journey was with a 737-700, while the inward was with a A220. It's day and night comparing theses two planes. The 737 cabin was cold and noisy , while in the A220 I could took off my shoe for the whole trip, and was more quiet than the 737, even if I was sitted right beside the engine. After all, It's like comparing a 50 y/o technologie with the latest available. For my future trips, I will consider the companies who have the A220 in their fleet to fly.
I flew on airBaltic A220 and immediately fell in love with the aircraft. No wonder Boeing didn't want to see this new plane take off and launched an attack on Bombardier. They knew CSeries was much better product than their MAX. Maybr instead of attacking CSeries they should have focused on building a better aircraft themselves.
The A220 uses Pratt & Whitney Geared Turbofan engines which produce significantly less noise than other commercial jet engines. Noise is a major concern for SWISS. The two longest runways at Zurich may not be used late at night because of noise concerns.
@Chris Escobar Southwest’s whole business model is boeing to streamline costs. Training required only on one plane, same with maintenance. Greatly reduces operating costs that increase if they ordered airbus
Two (completely irrational) reasons why I'd like to see the C-Series / A220 succeed is to rub Boeing's snout in it. a/ What Boeing tried to do to Bombardier was childish stupidity at it's worst regarding the tariffs b/ Boeing killed the MD-95 / B717. As I said - completely irrational reasons but reasons nonetheless.
What Boeing did to Bombardier will cost them. Canada has now chosen the F-35 over Boeing's offering. Canada's choice has influence in Europe. The better US company has won.
@@KaptnKork Agreed. Most of the commercial aircraft produced have a definitive version and the A220-300, is it. Funny how shrinks never seem to work out as well as stretches - most likely because there is added weight involved on a shrink, that the airframe does not need for the smaller number of passengers, yet it is not modified to keep commonality in production. The A220-500 will not be rolled out until 2 things happen; 1) The A320Neo backlog starts to diminish and customers take delivery of jets & 2) Airbus owns the whole program outright. No sense in sharing the pie with the Quebec gov't
Great analysis of a great aircraft program! I see a lot of potential for evolution of this beautiful airplane once the industry is on a sustained growth path again following the COVID crisis. It's hard to find a better mix of efficiency, passenger comfort and a modern cockpit for the pilots to enjoy. - Martin
Boeing 737 cabin width 354 cm and 6 seat in row, Airbus 220 cabin width 328 cm but only 5 seat in a row, so its smaler but every passenger got more space :)
I loved being able to visit my family in Zurich via London City instead of Heathrow, which is a quiet hike on the tube from Central/North London. Additionally, it's a gorgeous plane (my faves are 747, 787 and MD-11).
I disagree with your reasoning on why Airbus isn't working on the -500. I'm certain the real reason is that if capacity grew to 160 passengers, it'd cannibalize A320 sales.
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So Bombardier design the most suitable aircraft yet they disappear while big fat Boeing keeps on lumbering along, sort of. What happened to competition? US subsidies?
Not quite dispeard, rather absorbed. There are a few more compettior. Of cause, Boeing bought the brasilian competitor, embrare, that is sort of the closest competitor to the A220.
Bombardier is still alive and kicking just fine. They kind of dominate the subway, intra-city train market like Boeing/Airbus does the airframe market. Bombardier also have other businesses. All they have lost is the airplane business mostly due to political shenanigans.
Flew a SWISS CS-100, FLR - ZRH and ZRH - FLR. Comfortable, quiet, but most impressively a complete rocket! The takeoff on both flights was probably the steepest I have ever experienced in a commercial aircraft. It was fun! Congrats Bombardier, and Airbus was smart to purchase the program, but naturally there will be no 500 series soon, as it would encroach on the A-319/20 territory... We need more Bombardier and less Boeing/Airbus.
After being transferred by Swiss due to fog I found myself on an A220. WOW what a revelation I try and bend my flight times to fly on the A220 nowadays
Having flown with the A220-100 with Delta numerous times, it’s my number 1 favorite aircraft to fly in; the A350-1000 being my second favorite. The cabin is quiet, with excellent seat configurations with a lot of legroom and a great views out the window. I really really hope more airlines pick up this plane to fly more routes both domestic and internationally. Fingers crossed!
@@iamijhhagga1394 Ok this breaks the barrier, YOUR CALLING THIS GUY WHO SAID IT HAVE ALOT OF POTENTIAL, and it HAS, but you call him a idiot. I know a idiot when I see him, and I can tell it by the looks of your face. ;). The Embraer E2 has potential, but it is completely stupid using old designs, this has potential, since it is the future of flying. Please stop getting aggressive at people for not liking what you think. Go play Roblox kid.
The lack of competition with the A220 (formally, CSeries) helped extremely. Notable western former competitors are, Fokker 70, Fokker 100, Maddog (all iterations (for those who don’t know all iterations of the Maddog are: DC-9, MD-80, MD-88, MD-90 & Boeing 717)).
Actually the E190/E195E2 is a close competitor. Built in Brazil where wages are lower, the E2 are also cheaper to buy than the A220 built in Mirabel and noe in Mobile.
LucasAU the A319neo has never been sold. Only one exists, the Airbus A319neo prototype... The A220 appears like a fine machine and is getting more and popular.
@@KaptnKork The Lufthansa A320neo’s are some of the most dense considering they are a full service airline. Due to how dense they are the last row actually has to be blocked for centre of gravity concerns until a software update to improve the fly by wire is available.
@@iamijhhagga1394 Alright, maybe. Can you explain in what aspect the E195-E2 is better? It is cheaper, it's true. But is the operation of the aircraft more effective, or is it easier/nicer for the pilots to operate, or is the cabin pressurisation, ventilation, lighting, noise level better? Can you please explain?
Same size as a 737-700 at least the A220-300 variant is. It's an absolutely quiet gorgeous modern aircraft. That is DEFINITELY going to set the bar as the top regional jet in the near future.
This host forgot to mention the real true reason why the Bombardier C Series/ Airbus A220 and A300 is so quiet. The design of this jet sat on the shelf for at least 3 years until Pratt & Whitney called Bombardier and said "Have we ever got an engine for you" The P&W engine was the first jet engine in the world to have a gearbox inside the engine. It's like an overdrive transmission in your car, it reduces rotating parts of the engine, which lowers engine speed and offers a 70 percent drop in engine noise. This GTF, Geared TurboFan engine offers 21 percent less fuel burn than it's main competition the Boeing 737 when the C-Series first started flying in service. The fuselage is flatter on it's sides and less Oval shape of other jets, offering wider legroom and wider headroom. Airbus put $300 million in to build an extention of it's Alabama factory, to allow USA based airlinesto to buy American. Jet interiors are finished at the original Bombardier factory just north of Montreal.
I, a simple person with no engineering background looked at aircraft I have been tortured in and thought "why not 3 seats on one side, 2 on the other...and actually make a seat with something resembling comfort...but hundreds of engineers didn't see this??
The A220-500 is inevitable. As the MAX founders and the A320neo is pumped out, the industry will hunger for a workhorse 140-180 seat jet in the coming decade. Since Boeing has screwed themselves from a truely nextgen narrowbody type till at least the 2030s, Airbus can easily take a huge chunk of the demand with the A220, which continues to prove itself.
This aircraft is great. The interior cabin design is awesome. A220 -100 can also operate in 1500 meter runway so it can operate various airstrips in my country.
This is what Southwest should have used to replace there aging 737 fleet instead of the troublesome MAX's. A whole new fleet of Airbus A220-300's. Just a beautifully quiet yet powerful regional aircraft and around the same size as a older generation 737-700. They could have easily replaced there 700's with these A220-300's. I truly hope more US based airlines use these gorgeous planes for there short haul routes.
I hate to see Southwest buy a non-US made aircraft but they must address the poor comfort on their planes-cattle cars is too kind a description. How can you be a frequent flyer on SWA and still not get a comfortable, roomy seat? Sounds like A220s are ideal to fix this problem. The airline cannot squeeze the width, and we can pray they will not add rows. These positive comments on the A220 give one hope! 😅
Airbus 220 production is also moving to new production facilities in 2023 in the Pearson Airport area in Missaugga, Ontario from Downsview which is over 60 yrs old facility.
I have flown the A220 with Swiss a couple of times (instead of the usual A320) for the Zurich to Heathrow route. It's a nice aircraft but, on Swiss at least, lacks certain amenities, like infotainment screens. While this is not an issue for short duration flights, it would be for longer routes, where boredom could set in. I agree, with Boeing have it's issues with the 737 Max and the A320's aging (NEO's notwithstanding), the A220's future looks bright. Thanks for the informative video.
Most airlines are removing IFE to lighten the aircraft and save money. Also most people these days prefer to bring their own entertainment or sleep on a plane.
@@paulm.7422 I agree. It would be nice to offer free wi-fi but highly unlikely because they have to cover the cost of installing them in the first place.
My first ever flight was onboard a SWISS A220-100. I had no comparison but at the time I found it very silent, considering it wasn't a wide modern jet like a 787 for example. It was only after flying several times in a A320NEO that I gave the A220 it's real value. Congrats both to Bombardier on developing this great airplane and Airbus for the vision and putting it on the front line.
While I don't like the thought that airlines would actually take this little bird across the Atlantic (well, they can do it, but don't have me in there), I can't wait to get on one for an intra-European or domestic US flight.
I highly doubt the A220-500 would ever be built, IMO, the -300 is pretty much at the upper limit of how much the A220 can stretch itself without cannibalizing A319neo sales.
The A319neo doesn't sell very much actually (as its trip costs are very close to the A320neo - while carrying less passengers). So a shorter haul A220-500 (trading more seating for less range) would not change much to A319neo sales... In any events, the A220-500 will be launched once Boeing decides to launch its new narrowbody line. This way Airbus can launch a CASM champion A220-500 (cheap to develop) to compete head on with an eventual 737max8 replacement. No need to launch the A220-500 right now, as Airbus already dominates the narrowbody market anyways.
The A319 Neo is dead, as is the Max 7 - killed off by the A220. Total order for both aircraft is some 130 (84 & 52). The A220-500 will get built in the future, as the follow on to the A320 Neo - once 1) Airbus reduces the order book and 2) Owns the A220 program outright
What if A220 decked up with Qatar's Qsuite or ANA's Fusio "the room" business suite seats....then it's going to be a real game changer in 2000-3000nm range segment
Nothing is ridiculous here.... Look, if we see the American Airlines has Cirrus & B/E for their first & business class seats on the A321-200 or Thomson VantageXL on British A321 & A320 business class. So, in terms of to be a #GameChanger the "traditional culture" should be changED. If not us as customers (customer wants) the airlines wouldn't invest & develop any innovative products.🛫🛫🛫
Frankly people, I don't care what is called, in my heart it is a Canadian Aircraft, masterminded by Canadian engineers and manufactured ( originally) in Canada, my Canada. The fit and finish plus the built quality is really SO much better than any other ancient (read 737 Max) diddled up with a different engine. Remember folks, we did built the Arrow!
Yeah... thanks for that one captain obvious. Without you telling us a smaller aircraft like the A220 is much more efficient than the bigger one like the 787, none of us here wouldn't have known the difference! Well done lad!
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Proud to be Canadian and glad that a great design was not lost when Airbus acquired control of its production, I think they saw a winning aircraft.
@@kh2b573 Not only Canadian design, Airbus fly-by-wire commonality! Pilots certified on the A320 can fly the A220 almost immediately as commonality is over 95% with the A320 family!
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@@kh2b573 I love Canada, I would love to live in Canada, however Boris has be trapped atm.
Well, actually, it's been competing with the Airbus 110 and Airbus 320's so the future of the C-series is still in question. The Airbus deal was necessary due to Boeing's manipulation of the US toddler government but it was still a bad but necessary deal for Bombardier and though a great deal for Airbus, they really don't need it.
@@johnwang9914 The Airbus 110? The A220 isn't competing with the A320. Yes the smallest A320 has overlap with the largest A220. (seating A220 = 100-160, A320 = 100-240). Also realise that these planes operate in the market with the highest demand (75% of planes sold and built by Airbus and Boeing are in this range). And lets face it with 631 A220 and 5958 A320 on order I think both planes are viable. One very important selling point for the A220 is, it can land at regional airports (it is the largest plane to operate at London City Airport)
Guys admit it : A220 is the cutest aircraft in the industry. Awwww
Yes it's very cute 😍
Nope A380 and B-747 is more cute.
That c-series ;)
@@Ilovepineapple They are big and obviously cute. But A220 is small and really cute
a318 is the cutest baby bus
This is close to perfect aircraft. I have great experience of flying A220, even 6,5 hours flight to Abu Dhabi was great experience. Comfortable, quiet and efficient, plane which is hard to compare with B737. Especially it looks good with AirBaltic livery.
What airline was that on?
@@rowann7769 It's literally in the comment
Yes, it's very nice. I'd rather fly A220 than any B737 or A320 family. While A319(neo) may look similar in capability, it absolutely sucks in comparison as flier experience goes.
I had the chance to fly on it with AirBaltic when it was still called the CS300. Although its revolutionary efficiency is its main selling point you forgot to mention the passenger comfort factor which makes it a win-win for both passengers and airlines. Other aircraft of this segment like the A320neo and the 737s are absolutely crammed in coach. This is where the A220 excels. The unusual, 2-3 seating configuration with a wider middle seat (at least on AirBaltic), huge windows, quiet cabin and airy cabin makes that A220 the first choice of any frequent flyer.
Well done Bombardier and Airbus
This is why I liked my flight onboard a Loganair ERJ 145 a month ago as the layout is 2 - 1 although no doubt the cabin felt a bit tight but I git my own window seat without sitting next to anyone
I wouldn’t fly Air Baltic again if they had the last plane on Earth. The worlds rudest airline.
@@Fordprefect1000 wieird, I had great experience with them on multiple occasions, what I meant by great is that they were cheap tickets, and the flights were perfectly on time, the crew wasn't particularly nice but I had no problem with them anyway
@@notproplayer3649 They treat their customers like criminals. I have flown them many times and they got worse and worse. Being treated like shit is not in the contract. I have flown 30 airlines and they are by far the stand out worst in the world as far as I am concerned. Rude, aggressive and unfair. A zero star airline.
@@Fordprefect1000 wieird, flew with them a handful of times (4 times at least) and every time was pretty good.
I do understand that you might have had a different experience than mine though.
Having recently flown an Embraer -190 (AF) I would strongly endorse the use of single aisle low capacity aircraft . Very comfortable , rapid access and disembarcation . I must say that particular aircraft was very comfortable .
As a Brazilian I fell Very happy to read your thoughts about Embraer 😁
@@rafaelcamargomassagli5432
As a Canadian I also have lots of respect for Embraer and its superb engineering capacity.
Both the E195E2 and its direct competitor the A220-100 have room in the market.
The E2 is ideal for the low costs / no frills airlines or the regionals (as the E2 is cheaper to buy, has excellent CASM - but the cabin is a little more cramped).
However, in areas where scope clauses exist, the E190/195E2 is a little too close to the 76 seat regional category - which might be an unfair fight due to the lower wages in the regionals.
The A220 is more for the major airlines (due to its more roomy/comfortable cabin, its excellent CASM, its better short fields / higher elevation performance and its greater range)
Flown lots of times on the embraers on LOT, absolutely great aircrafts, literally have no complaints with them as a passenger.
Normally, without covid, I travel for a living. The Embraer E170/175 is far more comfortable than the competition. It is far and away my favorite jet to travel in. I've never had a chance to fly in the A220 though. It looks very similar and I assume would be just as nice or better.
@@FlexibleToast True, the E175, although tiny compared to most jetliners, actually flies higher and faster than early generation 737's! SAN-PHX in 45 minutes! Although seating can be cramped on a small 50 seater, the seats are plush and more comfortable than thee 737!
This is my absolute favorite narrow body of all time. It's so beautiful. It will always be the CS300 in my heart
I flew on a Delta A220. I just remember the window in the bathroom. Pretty cool at 38,000ft.
I work for Delta and we haven't gotten them yet but what's funny is that is feature we are all most excited about to see in person 😂😂we clean them and such and its funny out of all the things that legit pretty cool
good like a 737MAX oops
feel like you are the rain maker ?
@@Pastor_virtual_Robson Not! The A 220 is a modern aircraft.
@@xuchun5371 HaHa "Making it rain! Oh yeah!"
Too bad Bombardier couldn’t make the program a success on their own as I was keen for them to break the Airbus-Boeing duopoly for single aisles. While I am glad to see the plane successful under Airbus, it means there is even less negotiating power to lower the prices compared to before when it was in Bombardier’s hands because before the Delta big order and the whole tariffs thing it gave Boeing and Airbus the chance to offer even lower prices to key valuable customers who Bombardier tried to sell the plane to
The 300% tariff forced Bombardier into Airbus' arms sadly. Boeing really knows how to shoot themselves in the foot. The best present they could give to Airbus.
Agree with you.
We probably won't see a competitor to Airbus / Boeing for many year due to the HUGE barrier to entry.
The duopoly (well Boeing mostly) will give away airplanes to ensure the new entrant goes bankrupt... (by example, Boeing offered United brand new 737-700s at $23M each - to prevent a CSeries sale)
@@DiasBenes it also doesn't help Bombardier is mismanaged to say the least
Boeing under the bean counter regime has become its own worst enemy.
We all know what Boeing managers tried to do - to save their super-old 373ies out of desperation in response to Bombardiers superior planes by applying USA first rules. Airbus stepped in at the right moment and saved the brand. The A220 is comfortable, roomy and quiet with large windows: from the passenger perspective a true winner! Apparently also from the cost perspective.
Anyone currently flying the B717 should seriously consider the A220. Looking at you Qantas!
Volotea?
Delta has both the 717 and A220 and afaik, Delta is keeping the 717's around for awhile longer.
I flew a Qantas A330 from Perth to Brisbane, then I had to fly to Roma. The B717 was too small to accept my hand luggage and special arrangements had to be made. Pathetic. They need to junk those B717s asap.
Yes agreed
@Professor Mike AmericanuckRadio any idea if it the 220 can handle the rapid pressurization cycles better than a 737? As I recall that was an issue with the old 737s in Hawaii...one ended up as a convertible in the '80s. Of course, the cool thing about the 220's range is that it can also swap for routes to the West Coast as well to raise the average stage length.
Recently flew the A220 between Toronto and Montreal…. It was absolutely stunning. Gorgeous cabin, smooth, quiet and extremely advanced. Really excited to see the A220 flourish
Flew on a Swiss A220 twice and let me just say... it’s a joy! ;)
If you can not beat them, join them, Airbus knew this but not Boeing. Boeing seems to be doing everything wrong.
Boeing tried that join them short lived strategy with Embraer but that never worked out because the EU refused the deal to protect Airbus and because of the trouble Boeing put themselves in meaning they wanted to focus on their recovery first
@@filledwithvariousknowledge1065 Why didnt they just use those planes in the US for us operators then?
@@zahkam7322 I’m not sure either to be honest
Airbus could probably have beaten it, as said in the video the fuel consumption isn't that far off from a A320 and none of those constructors construct their own engines anyways. It just take a decade or more to design and start productions of planes and they took a bad bet with the hub system and the A380 so they needed a quick fix. It was a great move for Airbus but more of a shortcut to reinforce their share of that more & more popular market than anything.
Indeed, Boeing seems to be doing quite a lot of mistakes after the B777. I hope that the B737 Max never flies.
As a frequent Air Baltic customer I had many flights by A220-300. Can say all the best only.
Air Canada has 8 as of this post, C-GJYC entered service a couple weeks ago.
I absolutely adore flying with the A220. It‘s my favourite jet. Quiet, good legroom, nearly no turbulances, big windows. You just feel that it‘s the winning jet!
The legroom is dependent on how many seats the carrier puts into the plane, nothing to do with the design of the plane
And turbulence is turbulence. For a little plane, the laws of physics will make turbulence felt with only a tiny difference made by the design of the hardware and software of the plane.
I flew with a A220 from Air Baltic, and what i like it and how i felt is that was the least noisy plane! i t was quite silence inside! Nice experience
Not enough is said about the noise cancelling system within the fuselage walls. A technology developed by Bombardier for its noisier Dash8/Q400 turboprops. This combined with the geared Pratt & Whitney PW1500G turbofan jet engines makes for a very quiet flight.
I was in first class on Delta. It was really nice with a top notch entertainment system. I spoke to the pilots and checked out the flight deck. Massive MFDs and side controls provided a spacious work environment. Much more comfortable than my 747 office...
A220 is a great aeroplane. I remember flying on a cs branded one with swiss.
It seems quite unusual to see the insane amount of love for this aircraft. I haven't been on one yet, but it seems everyone who has, raves about them. Hopefully airlines will plan on having plenty of them around for a while.
I thought the same hahaha. So much excitement over such a little plane!
It is because, its a good designs.
@@mubassirzaman7202 yes I’m 6’2 and felt like I’m first class with the amount of leg room they have
I’ve flown on these several times with Swiss. By far the nicest, quietest, widest seat little plane. A huge pleasure to fly.
Proud to be Canadian since this jet was originally Canadian made and Airbus is doing a well thought program for it.
Designed and built in Montreal.
I flew on the A220 with Air Baltic and it is the nicest feeling plane I have been on. Being a short haul flight I'm not talking about entertainment systems etc, but the spaciousness, and the feeling of atmosphere / quality of the cabin and toilets etc was the best I can remember.
Yeah, it just feels very nice to be there, hard to explain exactly why. Nothing compares in my experience. It just feels nice, even compared to say business class in B767 or A330 I were flying with (of course business class in wide body aircraft is way more posh than economy in A220, but feeling just isn't there).
could you please also use metric when showing figures, it’s very difficult to follow sometimes (nice video as usual anyway)
Yeah, would really help for the vast majority of the population, who uses Metric
Naenae Gaming - AdelanteGuy indeed, literally 95 % of the world ahahah
And if you do use both metric and Imperial systems then don't bother converting to the nearest decimal place, that just makes it confusing, round to the nearest hundred!
soaringtractor It’s still more convenient to have the numbers there for viewing purposes, instead of having to go and convert them every time a number appears.
soaringtractor bruh i ain’t getting a headache looking at the weirdness that the imperial system is
Certainly good for pilots ! Four planes flying over one keeps four times the jobs.
EXACTLY! Get certified on one A220, such as the A220-100, and you are instantly certified on the 200 and 300 also. Plus, it will be a shallow learning curve for the A320 neo, A330 neo, even the A350! It is possible for A220 pilots to be proficient on the entire Airbus product line in a few short years!
@@rodgerringland405
But you can only have one active certification valid at any given time so pilots only re-train so they can advance up the pay scale or join a different airline, outside of company training due to newer or different aircraft types joining a fleet.
flew in an AirBaltic A220, amazing plane!
Fly with Azul brazillian airlines Embraer e195-e2
@@iamijhhagga1394 an Airbus A220 With AirBaltic is not the same as an E195-E2 with azul
@@iamijhhagga1394 No, simply no. Its level of comfort, simplicity and design cant compare. The E-190s were using the same old sleet design since they made it, Bombardier made a perfect one, and did both did their homework, its just that its need to be improved.
Happy to see the A220 getting love! Still sad though that this should have stayed as the C-Series and been a success for Bombardier. The whole BS complaint to the FTC to impose tariffs on it is one of reasons I lost respect for Boeing, at least their executive team.
Boeing was entirely correct to file their dumping complaint with the FTC, and had a reasonable request that they tariff it to the actual cost of building at $30m per unit. It was the FTC going ham setting it at 300% that was the real issue.
Selling planes at a 33% loss is entirely illegal in the US. There is no problem with the complaint from Boeing.
@@dfor
How about the 787? Wasn't it also sold at huge losses?
As you know, the first 100 or so planes cost more to built (expensive parts, FAL not up to optimum pace etc).
And worst, you also got to sell the early aircrafts cheaper as the new product has an unknown reliability, requires different training and maintenance/parts logistic. And can become an orphant if the manufacturer stops building it (or if BBD goes bangkrupt). -->> Every totally new aircraft programs are sold at a loss in the beginning, don't you know that??
--> That dumping complaint was dis-honest to start off, as Boeing did NOT make any aircraft in the CS100 category, nor did it offer any in the Delta's request for proposal (except for some second hand Brazillian built E190E1s - which Delta did buy from Boeing, but resold right after).
Boeing elected to re-engine / patch the old 737 instead of making a new narrowbody aircraft. They also elected to vacate the below 150 seats market (now taken by the CSeries). Really, Boeing deserve 100% their current situation.
Boeing executives openly said they wanted to bangkrupt Bombardier. Anyways to acheive it was fair game apparently. I have no sympathy whatsoever anymore for Boeing. They invest in legal wars instead of safe and efficient aircraft manufacturing.
Extremely happy that Airbus took over the program, and shows the world how good the CSeries is.
Douglas Forsyth except the FTC ultimately ruled in favor of Bombardier in 2018 so Boeing was in the wrong. And don’t get me started on all the tax breaks and “loans” Boeing receives at the state and federal level.
The c series was in trouble a long time before. It was a badly managed company that frankly couldn’t handle the program.
Douglas Forsyth the US manufacturers get a huge amount of government support to Boeing through lucrative Defence contracts. This is a leader that Bombardier did not have. Boeing practices predatory selling practices such as buying a customer’s existing Airbus planes so they can sell them Boeing planes, does that not amount to dumping?Bombardier was trying to establish their market and sell the first planes aggressively to establish that market. Boeing does similar things but they have more leavers to cover up what they are doing. Boeing put Bombardier out of business without a directly competing product in their offering and the US government was their accomplice. Shame on Boeing and the US government .
I've been on a 2,5h flight with Air Baltic. I was excited to get to the A220. It's quieter than the A320s and 737s. Seats were pretty firm and a little too low for me. I can't see myself in an 7hr trans atlantic flight is such a plane. But I'll fly it again when I get the chance. Best seats to me are Embraer E1 seats (although A/C is horrible at these planes).
@Gandalf4568 177cm. Not that big of a deal, haha! But the seats are too hard for a 7h flight in them.
Love flying on this aircraft. Canada is a world leader in innovative niche aircraft designs that work.
Even back in the 90s Bombardier stated it would not build an aircraft in this size range unless it could build one superior to anything else out there. What is often forgotten is that Bombardier was competing with Embraer and Embraer had aircraft in this side category but Bombardier was reluctant to go into the category without some clear advantage in design. So in some sense Bombardier was under pressure to build such and aircraft. That said the US response was to insure there would be no competition in design or engineering in Canada putting a near 400% tariff on a plane that did not even compete with any of their products. It is also a fact that Boeing is the most subsidized company in the US. This was particularly made more difficult when the extra cost Bombardier had to accept developing a superior aircraft. So the American government succeeded in destroy one of Canada's biggest companies while being rewarded by having a portion of the 220 being built in the US. This leaves Canada as a either a branch plant or component producing company with no design or engineering of our own. Economists keep claiming countries must innovate, but how is that done when the US destroys Canadian companies and keeps design and engineering to itself. Canadian governments need to check to see if they are being offered coolaid when considering so called free trade. Unless there are overwhelming advantages we should reject the Super hornet and F35 in favour of the Saab Grippen.
As a Canadian, I am very happy for it’s immediate impact
Are you happy Bombardier is gone?
You should be MUCH MORE CLEAR and state fuel efficiency as miles per gallon PER PASSENGER, not just miles per gallon! Obviously the plane cannot fly over 100 miles per gallon, but must divide the fuel consumed per passenger to get the numbers you cite in your video.
If you really want to be MUCH MORE CLEAR, start by giving units in metric. Using convoluted stuff like gallons and miles only makes it worse
@Maxwell Smart no, I don't remember because I'm not British and I wasn't even born yet. And I think 40 years is more than enough to get used to the SI units.
@Maxwell SmartYes, SI, that's how the metric system is actually called. Whether you like it or not, English wasn't always the international language of science.
EXACTLY! The biggest plane carries maybe 4000 gallons, tops, which would be one mile per gallon. EXCELLENT for any size jetliner, with absolutely unbeatable seat-mile costs and trip costs! The A220 will be a cash cow for any airline that flies it. Southwest's 737 fleet is due for overhaul or retirement in a decade or so, it will be a win-win situation for Southwest!
@Maxwell Smart Most people refer to the SI system as "Standard Index" system! Understandable as metric seat kilometer conversion can be confusing.
Honestly the 2-3 seat arrangement is so nice.
Am already in love with this Bombardier ...its really amazing
samee, such a gorgeous aircraft
Actually it's an Airbus
market um actually it is bombardier, it is the bombardier c series but they had trouble so they had a loan from airbus and they renamed it and added a joystick to it
@@Aviation-kj2bz Side stick. And Airbus didn't add anything.
PhoenixGTR when bombardier renamed it at as airbus they replaced the yoke with a joystick, and I call it joystick because airbus is for children
I see a MAJOR advantage in downsizing regarding planes: Fewer Emissions, wider offerings in point-2-point destinations, shorter boarding times, a more private feeling onboard ... I mean, it's like big size private jet.
it is just a right plane comes out at a perfect time
Not necessarily as they are also built in Mobil AL.
@@ronschout5201
Indeed, and kudo for the excellent job done by the Mobile workers (all trained by Bombardier employees in Mirabel, and later in Mobile).
Airbus makes planes in Mobile (A320 and A220-300) to avoid possible stupid tariffs.
Not really. Put on sale for over 10 years now and sold around 600 units and only being produced at four a month With your ports it probably will get cut to two a month
I’ve flown on a Swiss a220 from Thessaloniki-Zurich. The flight was amazing and really quiet. The windows were really big as well. Definitely one of the favorite flights that I’ve flown on
A plane to remind Boeing yet again where it screwed up.
The fact that Boeing took shots at Bombardier and it ended up helping Airbus, and Boeing has no narrowbody answer to Airbus because their fatal product is banned, and now Covid has killed the widebody demand. Absolutely everything has gone in Airbus’ favor and there’s nothing I can do about it. Next thing Airbus will get the rights to the Irkut MC-21, the 787 will get banned, and Boeing will still do absolutely nothing. We’re headed straight towards monopoly. This plane was Bombardier but now is Airbus. Now anything “the future” is Airbus which is humiliating for Boeing and they dropped the ball completely. 2020 made 2019’s mistakes even worse.
@@ecoRfan That's what we call karma. When a company lose it originality and characteristic, try to screws its respectable competitors (C-series), it is doomed to fail.
@@asiaworldcity Boeing management must go; at least the ones that follow the sneaky McDonnell-Douglas methods.
@@ecoRfan Look at the existing planes on offer: The A350-900 is only 400 miles shorter on range than the Boeing 777-200 LR. The A350-900 ULR absolutely buries any competition, including the yet to be released Boeing 777-8 by 461 miles! The Boeing 777-8 will offer a range of 10,703 miles, while Singapore Airlines Airbus A350-900 ULR's can fly 11,164 miles! The A350-1000 ULR, if released, will use the same technology as the 900 ULR while carrying even more fuel and could become the first plane to fly 12,000 miles nonstop in commercial service which is the EXACT goal of Project Sunrise. The A220 is perfect for domestic flights, especially in Australia, small enough for slot constrained, tight airports, while offering medium capacity and flying nearly 4,000 miles covering over 90% of the domestic market. Not to mention it will be much more fuel efficient than the 737 and possibly better than the larger A320 or A321!
@@ecoRfan boeing has had management problems going back to 1980
This is my favorite narrow body ever made. The windows are huge the space is amazing its comfortable efficient it's quiet inflight it's range is amazing. Just an amazing experience for a 5 hour flight way better than any 737 or 320 product ever.
I just flew forth and back to Edmonton. The outward journey was with a 737-700, while the inward was with a A220. It's day and night comparing theses two planes. The 737 cabin was cold and noisy , while in the A220 I could took off my shoe for the whole trip, and was more quiet than the 737, even if I was sitted right beside the engine. After all, It's like comparing a 50 y/o technologie with the latest available. For my future trips, I will consider the companies who have the A220 in their fleet to fly.
I flew on airBaltic A220 and immediately fell in love with the aircraft. No wonder Boeing didn't want to see this new plane take off and launched an attack on Bombardier. They knew CSeries was much better product than their MAX. Maybr instead of attacking CSeries they should have focused on building a better aircraft themselves.
That would have cut into instant earnings. Instead they have an aircraft that was illegal to fly for 2 years. Smart Boeing!
The A220 uses Pratt & Whitney Geared Turbofan engines which produce significantly less noise than other commercial jet engines. Noise is a major concern for SWISS. The two longest runways at Zurich may not be used late at night because of noise concerns.
Noise is a limiting factor at London City as well.
In your list of airlines that operate the A220 you left out jetBlue, they also have a list of A220s in their fleet as well.
You left out the part of how the plane went from Bombardier to Airbus.
no connection
Ronald Harrison there is definitely a connection mate.
The start of the video. He mentioned how it's a Bombardier plane.
Seems like a great little plane, wish Southwest would order some of these in order to break the ice with Airbus
Would raise ticket problems.
@@isaacg5438 just fly delta ez
@6 - A4 Jai Kartik Mynepalli After the Max problems I don't think the 737 has too much of a life left anymore.
@Chris Escobar Southwest’s whole business model is boeing to streamline costs. Training required only on one plane, same with maintenance. Greatly reduces operating costs that increase if they ordered airbus
@6 - A4 Jai Kartik Mynepalli they didn't solely operate the 737, they also operated the 727 for a short period of time
Excellent little aircraft. Well done Bombardier and Airbus!
How about a comparison between the A220 and Embraer E2 jets?
He did it in a regional jet video the A220 is better if I remember correctly
@@lorenzoFCIM1908 can you share a link to the video?
Two (completely irrational) reasons why I'd like to see the C-Series / A220 succeed is to rub Boeing's snout in it.
a/ What Boeing tried to do to Bombardier was childish stupidity at it's worst regarding the tariffs
b/ Boeing killed the MD-95 / B717.
As I said - completely irrational reasons but reasons nonetheless.
Seems reasonable to me! I revel in crony capitalists getting their noses rubbed in their own shit.
What Boeing did to Bombardier will cost them. Canada has now chosen the F-35 over Boeing's offering. Canada's choice has influence in Europe. The better US company has won.
I appreciate the hard work in your video, but I would have preferred if you also discussed about E195-E2 to compare
Doesn't compete - different market
@@KaptnKork Agreed. Most of the commercial aircraft produced have a definitive version and the A220-300, is it. Funny how shrinks never seem to work out as well as stretches - most likely because there is added weight involved on a shrink, that the airframe does not need for the smaller number of passengers, yet it is not modified to keep commonality in production.
The A220-500 will not be rolled out until 2 things happen;
1) The A320Neo backlog starts to diminish and customers take delivery of jets &
2) Airbus owns the whole program outright. No sense in sharing the pie with the Quebec gov't
Great analysis of a great aircraft program! I see a lot of potential for evolution of this beautiful airplane once the industry is on a sustained growth path again following the COVID crisis. It's hard to find a better mix of efficiency, passenger comfort and a modern cockpit for the pilots to enjoy.
- Martin
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Thanks Robert! :D
I just flew the Air Canada A220 YYZ-IAH in business yesterday. Such a great aircraft!
The A-220 is surely economical, but is the A-220 comfortable for passengers on longer routes (4-5 hours routes) given its small size?
Boeing 737 cabin width 354 cm and 6 seat in row, Airbus 220 cabin width 328 cm but only 5 seat in a row, so its smaler but every passenger got more space :)
the windows are very large, the seat config is 3-2 and the legroom is good
I loved being able to visit my family in Zurich via London City instead of Heathrow, which is a quiet hike on the tube from Central/North London. Additionally, it's a gorgeous plane (my faves are 747, 787 and MD-11).
I disagree with your reasoning on why Airbus isn't working on the -500. I'm certain the real reason is that if capacity grew to 160 passengers, it'd cannibalize A320 sales.
That's the reason.
Fun fact I’ve worked on all of deltas fleet for a220’s
1:30 Hey, that’s KPDX, my hometown airport! I recognize the concourse exterior and the roof of the Embassy Suites in the background
We really appreciate PDX Aviation for all the great footage they put out! ruclips.net/channel/UCXuyLR95xUU3Ft8PxT8em9w
I'm from PDX too. Love aviation, why do I keep seeing our airport on multiple videos, why is it so popular ?
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So Bombardier design the most suitable aircraft yet they disappear while big fat Boeing keeps on lumbering along, sort of. What happened to competition? US subsidies?
Boeing helped Bombardier die when they went to big daddy goverment to help them avoid competition.
Not quite dispeard, rather absorbed.
There are a few more compettior. Of cause, Boeing bought the brasilian competitor, embrare, that is sort of the closest competitor to the A220.
@@matsv201 I'm pretty sure that deal fell through
@@1Legofilms all right... i guess that is good?.. or bad?... really don´t know
Bombardier is still alive and kicking just fine. They kind of dominate the subway, intra-city train market like Boeing/Airbus does the airframe market. Bombardier also have other businesses. All they have lost is the airplane business mostly due to political shenanigans.
Watching this while sitting in an AirFrance A220-300. Such an awesome plane!
Best plane for short and medium haul for sure.
Flew a SWISS CS-100, FLR - ZRH and ZRH - FLR. Comfortable, quiet, but most impressively a complete rocket! The takeoff on both flights was probably the steepest I have ever experienced in a commercial aircraft. It was fun! Congrats Bombardier, and Airbus was smart to purchase the program, but naturally there will be no 500 series soon, as it would encroach on the A-319/20 territory... We need more Bombardier and less Boeing/Airbus.
Haha where was everyone here when Bombardier offered the C Series. Sad that it takes an outsider to actually design the "game-changer".
It's so adorable I bought one for my five year old son for Christmas.
I was literally looking at CSeries / A220 videos earlier today! haha awesome!
As a Delta mechanic. This plane is very smart, but so many issues that still are being worked out.
i live close to YMX (A220 Factory) and heard a plane, checked flight radar and it was a Korean air A220 that was being test flight.
YMX = Mirabel Airport?
@@rodgerringland405 yup
I think it looks it's most gorgeous in the Korean livery.
After being transferred by Swiss due to fog I found myself on an A220. WOW what a revelation I try and bend my flight times to fly on the A220 nowadays
Fiji Airways and Air Canada looks so beautiful in these clips! 😍
Having flown with the A220-100 with Delta numerous times, it’s my number 1 favorite aircraft to fly in; the A350-1000 being my second favorite. The cabin is quiet, with excellent seat configurations with a lot of legroom and a great views out the window. I really really hope more airlines pick up this plane to fly more routes both domestic and internationally. Fingers crossed!
I see the potential in it... Alot of potential
Idiot
Embraer E2 is BETTER
@@iamijhhagga1394 Ok this breaks the barrier, YOUR CALLING THIS GUY WHO SAID IT HAVE ALOT OF POTENTIAL, and it HAS, but you call him a idiot. I know a idiot when I see him, and I can tell it by the looks of your face. ;). The Embraer E2 has potential, but it is completely stupid using old designs, this has potential, since it is the future of flying. Please stop getting aggressive at people for not liking what you think. Go play Roblox kid.
The lack of competition with the A220 (formally, CSeries) helped extremely. Notable western former competitors are, Fokker 70, Fokker 100, Maddog (all iterations (for those who don’t know all iterations of the Maddog are: DC-9, MD-80, MD-88, MD-90 & Boeing 717)).
Actually the E190/E195E2 is a close competitor.
Built in Brazil where wages are lower, the E2 are also cheaper to buy than the A220 built in Mirabel and noe in Mobile.
The A220 is way better than the A319 neo and 737 max7.
Have you ever flown an EMBRAER jet???
LucasAU the A319neo has never been sold. Only one exists, the Airbus A319neo prototype... The A220 appears like a fine machine and is getting more and popular.
@@KaptnKork The Lufthansa A320neo’s are some of the most dense considering they are a full service airline. Due to how dense they are the last row actually has to be blocked for centre of gravity concerns until a software update to improve the fly by wire is available.
But Embraer E195-E2 is BETTER than A220
@@iamijhhagga1394 Alright, maybe. Can you explain in what aspect the E195-E2 is better? It is cheaper, it's true. But is the operation of the aircraft more effective, or is it easier/nicer for the pilots to operate, or is the cabin pressurisation, ventilation, lighting, noise level better? Can you please explain?
Can't wait to see this flying into Tallahassee
We need an a220 vs 737 comparison
Same size as a 737-700 at least the A220-300 variant is. It's an absolutely quiet gorgeous modern aircraft. That is DEFINITELY going to set the bar as the top regional jet in the near future.
A perfect narrow body aircraft... I had 3 hours experience on board air Tanzania inaugural flight JHB-DAR in 2019...the aircraft is among the quietest
A320neo: "Am I a joke to you?"
Yes
Yes
yes, you are a joke to me
Excellent travail Bombardier, Canada.
If all airlines in the world ordered the a220 flying would be very popular
But flying is pretty popular
@@Anton_B_08 as in an increase in popularity
@@annndukumutua833 ok now I understand what you meant.
Have a nice day
@@Anton_B_08 you too
@@annndukumutua833 thanks
This host forgot to mention the real true reason why the Bombardier C Series/ Airbus A220 and A300 is so quiet. The design of this jet sat on the shelf for at least 3 years until Pratt & Whitney called Bombardier and said "Have we ever got an engine for you" The P&W engine was the first jet engine in the world to have a gearbox inside the engine. It's like an overdrive transmission in your car, it reduces rotating parts of the engine, which lowers engine speed and offers a 70 percent drop in engine noise. This GTF, Geared TurboFan engine offers 21 percent less fuel burn than it's main competition the Boeing 737 when the C-Series first started flying in service. The fuselage is flatter on it's sides and less Oval shape of other jets, offering wider legroom and wider headroom. Airbus put $300 million in to build an extention of it's Alabama factory, to allow USA based airlinesto to buy American. Jet interiors are finished at the original Bombardier factory just north of Montreal.
It never ceases to amaze me how economists, madmen and aviation 'experts' believe everything will go on forever
I, a simple person with no engineering background looked at aircraft I have been tortured in and thought "why not 3 seats on one side, 2 on the other...and actually make a seat with something resembling comfort...but hundreds of engineers didn't see this??
The A220-500 is inevitable. As the MAX founders and the A320neo is pumped out, the industry will hunger for a workhorse 140-180 seat jet in the coming decade.
Since Boeing has screwed themselves from a truely nextgen narrowbody type till at least the 2030s, Airbus can easily take a huge chunk of the demand with the A220, which continues to prove itself.
One interessant thing is, that swiss operate only a220 flights from Geneva (ex NY and Zurich)
ATCL also operates to Mumbai sometimes with A220
This aircraft is great. The interior cabin design is awesome. A220 -100 can also operate in 1500 meter runway so it can operate various airstrips in my country.
This is what Southwest should have used to replace there aging 737 fleet
instead of the troublesome MAX's. A whole new fleet of Airbus
A220-300's. Just a beautifully quiet yet powerful regional aircraft and
around the same size as a older generation 737-700. They could have
easily replaced there 700's with these A220-300's. I truly hope more US
based airlines use these gorgeous planes for there short haul routes.
Southwest is a looser with their 737 bias. I guess they like old aircraft that have past their best before date.
I hate to see Southwest buy a non-US made aircraft but they must address the poor comfort on their planes-cattle cars is too kind a description.
How can you be a frequent flyer on SWA and still not get a comfortable, roomy seat?
Sounds like A220s are ideal to fix this problem. The airline cannot squeeze the width, and we can pray they will not add rows.
These positive comments on the A220 give one hope! 😅
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A great option to be sure. On the other hand anything except a 737 has to be good.
Going to fly in a few weeks....
Siddharth Nair which airline?
Airbus 220 production is also moving to new production facilities in 2023 in the Pearson Airport area in Missaugga, Ontario from Downsview which is over 60 yrs old facility.
I have flown the A220 with Swiss a couple of times (instead of the usual A320) for the Zurich to Heathrow route. It's a nice aircraft but, on Swiss at least, lacks certain amenities, like infotainment screens. While this is not an issue for short duration flights, it would be for longer routes, where boredom could set in. I agree, with Boeing have it's issues with the 737 Max and the A320's aging (NEO's notwithstanding), the A220's future looks bright. Thanks for the informative video.
More airlines are looking at removing tv screens, just to save weight and cost. More and more people carry their own inflight entertainment.
Most airlines are removing IFE to lighten the aircraft and save money. Also most people these days prefer to bring their own entertainment or sleep on a plane.
@@RIOBTN They could then afford to offer free wi-fi to everyone, but unlikely!
@@paulm.7422 I agree. It would be nice to offer free wi-fi but highly unlikely because they have to cover the cost of installing them in the first place.
Just add screens as delta did. Easy fix.
My first ever flight was onboard a SWISS A220-100. I had no comparison but at the time I found it very silent, considering it wasn't a wide modern jet like a 787 for example. It was only after flying several times in a A320NEO that I gave the A220 it's real value. Congrats both to Bombardier on developing this great airplane and Airbus for the vision and putting it on the front line.
It's a state of the art modern aircraft.
My 2nd favorite aircraft
After the a350
Lol me too
😁😁
My 4th
Oh haha
While I don't like the thought that airlines would actually take this little bird across the Atlantic (well, they can do it, but don't have me in there), I can't wait to get on one for an intra-European or domestic US flight.
I highly doubt the A220-500 would ever be built, IMO, the -300 is pretty much at the upper limit of how much the A220 can stretch itself without cannibalizing A319neo sales.
The A319neo doesn't sell very much actually (as its trip costs are very close to the A320neo - while carrying less passengers). So a shorter haul A220-500 (trading more seating for less range) would not change much to A319neo sales...
In any events, the A220-500 will be launched once Boeing decides to launch its new narrowbody line. This way Airbus can launch a CASM champion A220-500 (cheap to develop) to compete head on with an eventual 737max8 replacement.
No need to launch the A220-500 right now, as Airbus already dominates the narrowbody market anyways.
The A319 Neo is dead, as is the Max 7 - killed off by the A220. Total order for both aircraft is some 130 (84 & 52). The A220-500 will get built in the future, as the follow on to the A320 Neo - once 1) Airbus reduces the order book and 2) Owns the A220 program outright
@@frankpinmtl Most new sales are being branded as 319 ACJ's or Airbus Corporate Jets. Only problem is 6 A220 CJ's have also already been ordered.
2:05 If i recall correctly, for long haul, one stop uses less fuel than direct
3:15 and you also prove your previous statement is wrong here
What if A220 decked up with Qatar's Qsuite or ANA's Fusio "the room" business suite seats....then it's going to be a real game changer in 2000-3000nm range segment
That would likely take up the entire airplane for just one passenger.
Not going to happen don’t be ridiculous
Nothing is ridiculous here....
Look, if we see the American Airlines has Cirrus & B/E for their first & business class seats on the A321-200 or Thomson VantageXL on British A321 & A320 business class.
So, in terms of to be a #GameChanger the "traditional culture" should be changED. If not us as customers (customer wants) the airlines wouldn't invest & develop any innovative products.🛫🛫🛫
Qatar does all business flights to London
Biponacci No they don’t
Frankly people, I don't care what is called, in my heart it is a Canadian Aircraft, masterminded by Canadian engineers and manufactured ( originally) in Canada, my Canada. The fit and finish plus the built quality is really SO much better than any other ancient (read 737 Max) diddled up with a different engine. Remember folks, we did built the Arrow!
Shurley a ideal bus stop 😂 aircraft to most destanions around the the U.K.? Not to big not to small? Love it.
Major components manufactured in UK also. The specialised composite wings are made in Belfast by American company Spirit who bought Bombardier UK out.
Great aircraft indeed, the only low point being small overhead bins… difficult to find a place on awfully booked flight.
The A220 is more efficient than the 787 Dreamliner!
Yeah... thanks for that one captain obvious. Without you telling us a smaller aircraft like the A220 is much more efficient than the bigger one like the 787, none of us here wouldn't have known the difference! Well done lad!
What?
Both airplanes fulfill different roles.