Peter you're a legend thank for the lengthy videos. I dont think a lot of the commenters realize how fortunate they are to be getting all this F1 coverage from multiple sources. Back in the day Id watch the race and there would be nothing till the next race. Now there is The Race, Peter, Scarbs, Beyond the Grid, F1 Nation, Nico, Kym, that one British guy, Driver 61 etc...
Great stuff! Really enjoying these podcasts these days. You seem to have the pulse of your audience now with less overbearing bias. Very enjoyable to listen to. The insight and expertise is just amazing. Cheers
Hey Peter - BBC confirmed on their podcast that Checo listened to your advice and had a session with Rob Wilson during the break. Though Rosanna Tennant, the bbc podcast host, was mocking him for training with Rob saying how can a top 20 driver in F1 seek help from Rob?
@@scroopynooperz9051 Rosanna doesn't seem like the type of person to genuinely mock someone for that. I don't think it's true. It was probably just a joke.
@@TomBoss123 you seem to be a good person who doesn't assume worst in others. However, go and listen to the podcast by yourself just as I did and you wouldn't have any doubt that she is genuinely making fun of him.
Dear Peter, I hesitate to make a comment on your post. But the crash of Sargeant happened between turn 3 and 4. Not between 1 and 2. Does not matter at al, I know. But I know you are a man of details. Keep up the great work, just wanted to say!
landos was incredible. i watched the onboard. specially lap 11 and 12 i think the chicane. he took it perfect. that was world class. really impressive.
Peter, you stuff up. Almost all people are referring Oscar to Prost-like. As an Australian who started watching F1 in 1982, Oscar has a Prost-like approach to driving. Senna had the better pole ratio when compared to Prost, but at the end of the day, their win ratio was almost identical. Prost ended with 51 wins, the most F1 wins at the time, compared to Senna’s 41 wins. Where Prost excelled was on Sunday. Prost had an analytical, intelligent and strategic mindset. Unlike Max or Michael Schumacher, Prost had the WDC champions as teammates, including: - Niki Lauda (won the 1975, 1977 and 1984 WDCs) - Keke Rosberg (won the 1982 WDC) - Ayrton Senna (won the 1988, 1990 and 1991 WDCs) - Nigel Mansell (won the 1992 WDC) - Damon Hill (won the 1996 WDC) Alain Prost achieved 4 WDCs and is very close to winning 6 WDCs. Prost lost out to Lauda in winning the 1984 WDC by 0.5 points, and Prost lost out to Senna in winning the 1988 WDC by 3 points. You consider who Alain Prost’s teammates were; you must consider that Alain Prost sits behind Juan Manuel Fangio and Lewis Hamilton as the all-time greatest F1 driver, especially considering how unreliable the 1980s F1 cars were. In the second season in F1, Oscar is sitting P4 in the driver’s standings, which is better than what Prost achieved. When comparing against F1 greatest, only three drivers did better than Oscar in their second season in F1. Ranking of the F1 greats based on the second-year performance is as follows: Lewis Hamilton was P1 in the Drivers’ Championship with 5 win. Juan Manuel Fangio was P1 in the Drivers’ Championship with 3 win. Michael Schumacher was P3 in the Drivers’ Championship with 1 win. Ayrton Senna was P4 in the Drivers’ Championship with 2 wins. Considering that Oscar is only 10 points behind Charles and catching him, only the two greatest F1 drivers are ahead of Oscar when you compare second-season results. Both Lando and Oscar are great drivers, but Oscar has the more analytical, intelligent, strategic, and mature mindset, which is the same thing you can say about Prost.
But it all comes down to pace, and Lando very clearly has more of it. It is 9-5 advantage Lando in this years races. Qualifying this year is also 13-2 in Lando’s favor. I rate Piastri very highly, he is excellent. But Lando is faster.
@@Rimpreza sure but look at lando in his second season. Carlos was the better driver and outscored him that year and would you say that is the case now?
@@Rimpreza Lando is a damn good driver and so is Oscar. The prime goal of Oscar’s this year was to get tyre management under control and get better at his race pace management. It’s very rare for someone to be as competitive as Oscar in their second season. At the moment, Oscar is actually on par with Charles Leclerc and Ayrton Senna regarding second season performance. What I do see, is that Oscar approaches F1 weekends in the same way as Prost. His tyre management has been coming along nicely, as well as his overtakes. Come 2025, Lando may do better than Oscar in qualifying, but Oscar will most likely do better in the race itself.
Quite an odd interpretation of stats here, although I take your point that Piastri has arguably more of a Prost mentality. 1. 7 of Prost's wins came in the dominant '93 car against Hill in his first season of actual racing and not DNQ in a half-assed team. 2. Prost had 199 starts to Senna's 161. 3. Senna set up his car for qualifying and went all out, Prost focused on race pace and a pragmatic approach to scoring points. Which way is better....? Subjective. 4. Since the way points are allocated and the number races per season is totally different now, trying to grade drivers from different eras based on stats is largely pointless. All you can do is compare them to their contemporaries of the same period. 5. Yeah, Prost had some great teammates, but Lauda was at the end of his career, and Hill, who isn't as talented as Prost's other WDC teammates was at the start. 6. If not for Suzuka and Balestre, Senna may have had 4 titles and Prost only 3. Of course a title can come down to one crucial race or a few points. 7. Since Hamilton often needs his team to tell him what to do to win a race and he can't work out where he is relative to other drivers, and his own instinct can often cost him a win as much as gain him one, I'm not sure that Hamilton qualifies as "all-time great". Especially given that he never beat a teammate like Senna or Prost to a title, and most of his wins/titles are against fairly weak teammates like Bottas and Rosberg. I think Hamilton, Schumacher, Vettel and Verstappen's stats flatter them because of the number of races in a dominant car. And Hamilton more than the others for the sheer number of races. 8. What exactly is the point of 'second season results'? Schumacher and Senna didn't have a car as competitive as Piastri or Hamilton. 9. I think Piastri will have the better career than Norris, assuming they have equally competitive machinery.
@@michaelcobbin look guys, after today it’s pretty clear that he isn’t as fast as Norris. The best drivers don’t need 2 full seasons to be among the fastest. Max only beat Ricciardo in his 3rd season, but he already had more pace than him in his first season. Piastri may have Prost his ‘mindset’ but just isn’t fast enough to be on the level of Max, Lando, Charles etc.
The Macca looked immediately great, FP1 seeing Piastri in the rain planting it through the sweepers, had so much more grip and firm direction change. Likewise both cars got on the throttle so early out of turn 3. I can see why Oscar was disappointed in the end. Yes Norris imperiously floating the car through the corners in the cross-winds in qualifying was really something 👍
That pole was on par with Maxs recent Spa pole - a step up on the field...McL looking like they've got a car to grab a few poles for the rest of the season. The Ox might have free reign to race Lando, but i don't think he's gonna get close to Lando this weekend...Landos sectors all thru quali were great.
Time for Dan to go - hes more concerned with off track politics that his on track performance. its only horner keeping him there. He was the slowest of the four RB drivers and he's so delusional he thinks he deserves Perez seat. put LL Cool Jandal in now...Dan needs to go to indy car.
Peter, Do Formula One cars no longer go through a scrutineering process? I am wondering how the heck the Williams disqualification came about. Keep up the good work.
There are only two things that could give Max the win tomorrow - rain and track knowledge. I tested and raced at Zandvoort more than any other circuit. There are places and lines to pick up grip known only to those who know this circuit in their sleep. Lando deserves the win, but don't write off Max for the win either..
Russell would have been good for 3rd if Gasly wasn't ahead giving him dirty air in the wind. The top 4 is going to make for an insane start. Pressure on Max and Lando. And Russell will be looking for a cheeky move.
It is racing, after all, so I'm not sure what a cheeky move would be. Would you call Schumacher's or Senna's moves cheeky? They didn't have time to pull alongside and say "sorry, old man, would you mind if I ever so gently edged in front of you - thanks mate!" And credit to George, every time one of his competitors is in a serious crash, he is checking to see if he needs to stop and help as I did when I raced. Not saying George is always perfect. Are you? I am not.
The comment about Sainz and Williams is ‘not disrespectful’? Really? Certainly negative, and unnecessary. Williams may be back markers now, but consider the travails of McLaren over many seasons.
You seem to ignore the fact that changing conditions might have influenced the results. I heard Albon saying, (and some other drivers too), that the wind made it a bit of a lottery. Lando is probably the right pole-sitter, but the gap might also be flattered by circumstances. 0.5 seconds between Lando and Oscar is not what we've seen lately. And Lewis' 12th place was not how it looked like up to that moment. Is there a possibility that the constant change of conditions had an impact on the results?
Could be, but I think the McLaren is better though and Lando managed to pull out an amazing lap as well. Max made a couple of small mistakes, no doubt due to the car and the changing conditions. I think it is telling that the gap between Lando and Oscar is so big, can't recall when it was that big before. Must have been something due to changing conditions as well yesterday.
I think this time he'll actually hold 1st; especially with such a short distance to T1.. But I do think at some point (likely around the pit stops) Verstappen will be in front.
mclarens are to fast. if lando is smart just dont take to much risk and let max go if no other option, then pass max easily at lap 3 or 4. that mclaren with new updates are just fire
@@elecovanrenss1352 mate lando is so frustrated he wouldn't risk it for his life to go behind max for strategy. I see him racing to the limit especially after silverstone he will still feel bad losing his homerace.
If the same "logic'' is applied to whose fastest first Lando should be the declared winner for the McLaren team. Piastri should not challenge Norris because Norris has out qualified him.
@@50gary its different if Oscar is the quicker driver the reason Hungary happened was because Oscar was leading the whole race and strategy meant they positions changed. Im sure they would switch back if that happened
What bias? Seriously. He's been lauding Piastri's skills for ages. Today, Norris put in a stellar performance and deserves the praise. Some of you people need to understand that F1 pundits will sometimes praise a driver at the expense of your favourite driver. Now, who's biassed?
@@hectorshouse7348 I love Peter, and his story.. the guy was there! living it!... but as a racer myself, I cringe a bit when non racers talk about driving technique.
@@servethesongsto be fair to him, he’s always stressed that he’s giving an opinion. Shame he doesn’t develop the channel beyond his personality. He should use more visual aids imo
@youtuber-cc8sx yes, I'd say very setup dependent.. and you can usually take different corners of the same track with different lines that suit them. Late apex onto long straights for example
@@kesh_r For a regular person, it's not easy to tell the difference between how different pilots drive, much less what's due to the cars, what's due to their habits, and what's the overall fastest. Having a nearly proprietary way to rank the drivers via "short corners" is therefore quite an advantage for a youtuber. Does that hold any water? Not like a regular person could argue Peter.
this hero to villain, then back to hero mentality in F1 commentary is just getting rediculous. last week Lando was broken by Oscar, the new number one at mclaren - now Lando is king again. Just stop it.
@@JC-lu4se I have been seeing this as well from Peter. Clearly, Peter is biased towards Lando. As an Australian, it pissing me off that Australian can be so unfair against an up and coming Australian sports person competing at the top level and favour the British driver. Very un-Australian like.
@@sleepypixie8828 I’m Australian, so I have been supporting Oscar since he got into F1. Before you ask, I will be supporting Jack Doohan and Daniels Ricciardo as well.
Is S1+S2+S3 = total lap time? Might I suggest to use sector times with 3 digits after decimal point or check if they are correctly rounded to one digit after decimal point? Now, according to the table shown Ver is 0.2 seconds behind Nor, but in reality the difference was 0.356 seconds (0.4 seconds if rounded). That is 43.8% off.
It is a shame in a way that within formula 1, real straight fights with near equal machinery are so rare. Because of the impact the machinery and conditions of the moment have, we rarely see those moments, for example often one of the two cars is clearly better due to better tyres. Would be great to see a head to head duel in equal machinery and conditions between the top drivers, such as Max, Lando, Oscar, Lewis, George, Charles and Carlos. I guess we have virtual racing for that.
What do you think a long corner is. It's about distance and time. Shorten less time and distance .. long we'll longer distance and longer time to get round it.
I believe it is what is also called a V corner, spending less time and covering less distance turning and more time driving on the straight before and after the apex.
He's done two videos on it. It's basically extending the straight a bit before turning and not taking a traditional apex which a long corner driver does, who makes the corner longer by rotating the car in a smooth arc. Short corner drivers have less time rotating the car and get the car straighter more quickly after the corner so they can go full throttle faster than a long corner driver.
There is a certain inevitability to Lando winning tomorrow, at least in my mind. I hope Max and RB can pull one out of the bag, as we haven't seen Max win in forever, but "the numbers don't lie", so I wouldn't hold my breath.
I don't know who's being saying Oscar is like Senna . Who ever it was most likely looking for Clicks. He is totally a different type of person and driver. .
If Max can't get to 1st place at the start (the first 3 corners🙏!-) but instead holds on to second place, there is gonna be a chance for him to Undercut Lando...soo it should be an exciting strategic race today!
Hopefully Lando will have finally learnt how to cover off Max off the start. Lewis gets a penalty because he is at a part of the track where there was nothing anyone could do, I guess Lewis will think it was already a lost weekend so why not throw a few grid penalty places in as well.
nothing anyone could do ? he was just on wrong side of track ... so he could have gone the inside , and not the racing line ... like all others did .. rules are clear , he impeded and got penalized .. Lewis knew he f.cked up , reason for his pathetic try to get away with it as usual ..
@@DouweEgbert So much hate, you could almost be a steward. Even Perez said afterwards that Hamilton tried his best to get out the way, it was just the wrong time wrong place - but hey - hate on.
Hamilton's job was not to be at the wrong place at the wrong time, that's why he was warned by his team. When Perez arrived it was already too late, but that's Hamilton's fault. Standard penalty.
Max definitely playing with fire on pit exit, but the live commentators, so greedy for something to talk about after a wrecked session, seemed to forget Monaco 2022 where the rule was clarified (after a 2021 amendment). The intention is alway to keep the slower car within the exit lane, so the rule became “no car’s tyre may cross the line on pit exit” from the previous wording of “no part of the car may cross” so Red Bull successfully argued on that day all of a wheel has to be over all of the line to “cross the line” and get a penalty. Its a good rule of thumb to say that pit exit white line is a wall, but in F1 now its more accurate to say beyond the line is soft soap 😼
Turn 1 and lap 1 will be interesting tomorrow. Will Peter be calling the stewards on Oscar again? Will Lando finally break that first lap after a pole hoodoo?
Who's calling Oscar the next Senna?! I've heard of him being compared to Prost though. He's definitely the more consistent McLaren driver, highly likely he'll take second in the driver's championship. It'll be Oscar or Max tomorrow for the win after Norris chokes again
Norris the Choker he's not even remotely close to winning in the peanut gallery. He's had over 6 years & this is his best, being beaten by his team mate showing he's only a step removed from Ricciardo.
Prost didn’t get as many poles than what Senna did, but Prost got more wins than Senna. Why? Prost was focused on ensuring that the car was at its best in the GP race itself. Prost was more consistent than Senna. I remember Senna was leading a Monaco Grand Prix, easily out in front, then next minute he crashed it Portier. Why? Senna simply lost focus. Oscar is definitely more Prost like when comes to driving a F1. Since the Miami GP, seems to have gotten better overtaking others, especially on the outside and first two laps, which is Senna like driving.
17:50 Please stop nattering on about Lando yielding to team orders in Hungary (after many laps of team radio bad parenting and teenager petulance) at least long enough to listen to Zak Brown and to Andrea Stells's reasoned explanation of team philosophy and approach. Lando lost a lot more than those 7 points in bad pit calls and slow starts.
Regardless of what Lando lost in pit stops, slow starts, etc. and irrespective of how team Zak and Andrea spun it, he was forced to lose 7 points by team orders.
The problem with Norris is he's mental ability to sustain these techniques & he has proven over the years, he can't. This track will advantage the car in front but I feel the advantage & danger to Norris will come from behind he doesn't like being muscled or harrassed.
@peterwindsor . Peter i love your stuff. Except your biassed towards Lewis is a pain.. your happy to mention Max touches the line going past Lando snd you think the stewards should look at it ... but then you brushed off the Lewis blocking checo so quickly ( which the stewards are looking at and Lewis said in his interview he made a mistake ! 😮. I know you don't realise or intentionally be biassed about him But you are.. please please try correct this.. your the best out there. But this gets hard to take all the time..
Im not a hamilton fan but him getting a grid Penalty for inpeding perez in an absolute joke. He had nowhere to go, verstappen has had several incidents like this with no penalty
i think the penalty is given because lewis got away with it so many times. that enough is enough. a 7 times world champ should know better. he should have not slowed down, but go faster and slow down after the chicane. noone else had a problem except lewis.
@@ZionicleCalm down potty mouth. He clearly means it’s not logical for someone to be that far ahead on a short track. Check your emotional immaturity level.
You said Red Bull had a secret brake tick and this was wrong. Scarbs was wrong. Cameron F1 was wrong. Will you apologise for speculating and slurring a team for no reason?
Lando will screw it up as always … third tomorrow .. piastri… max.. Lando with George-peter perfect- Russel in 4th. As for the “poor old lewis”… 😂😂😂… I just moved watching him struggle
@@GTAracingUK I don't always agree with him but this time I do. Max crossed the white line on pit exit, if it was Hulkenberg, Ocon or any other midfield driver doing it would have been at least investigated if not penalized.
As a Lando fan I do hope he can nail the start tomorrow. The Hype around Oscar was getting on my nerves and Lando today was sublime and shows he still has it over Oscar. Not diminishing Oscar though he is a great driver.
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7:10 saying left foot brake is obvious and meaningless in 2024. Everybody left foot brakes, it's not even possible to right foot brake, the feet are so tight in the pedal box nowadays.
Interesting you couldn’t recognize red bull has been cheating with braking for years to improve balance and rotation the car to just kill all other manufacturers for years… too bad.,😢
Ferrari your car is junk. upgrades are junk. you are falling down the championship tables. Sergeant your check is not big enough to stay in f1. make way for sainz as he enjoys his retirement in the back with williams. Danny Ric's career has been done for years. The red bull needs to dump him already. he should try out nascar.
This is how bias and stupid the stewards are , hamilton did his best to stay off the racing line, but have to drift back on the racing line exiting the corner, what should he do stop dead,pretty dangerous or go on the grass.max didnt even get a warning for his behaviour in pit lane.
what a dumb comment, the wind change affected merc the team even said so some cars are more sensitive to wind than others merc has been one of those for years? based on your logic why was max not on pole when hes dominated this track since its been back on the calendar can you answer that ??
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Peter you're a legend thank for the lengthy videos. I dont think a lot of the commenters realize how fortunate they are to be getting all this F1 coverage from multiple sources. Back in the day Id watch the race and there would be nothing till the next race. Now there is The Race, Peter, Scarbs, Beyond the Grid, F1 Nation, Nico, Kym, that one British guy, Driver 61 etc...
And channels spitting nothing but facts, like Lollypopman, Conor Moore and F1 Animated.
Nobody talks in detail like this. Fantastic!
Great stuff! Really enjoying these podcasts these days. You seem to have the pulse of your audience now with less overbearing bias. Very enjoyable to listen to. The insight and expertise is just amazing. Cheers
Translation: my favourite drivers are now doing well and Peter is talking about them. Yaaaaaay. 😂
Hey Peter - BBC confirmed on their podcast that Checo listened to your advice and had a session with Rob Wilson during the break. Though Rosanna Tennant, the bbc podcast host, was mocking him for training with Rob saying how can a top 20 driver in F1 seek help from Rob?
Top 20 driver in F1 ,...LOL
Why mock him for wanting to improve his skillset?
The bbc?🤣
@@scroopynooperz9051 Rosanna doesn't seem like the type of person to genuinely mock someone for that. I don't think it's true. It was probably just a joke.
@@TomBoss123 you seem to be a good person who doesn't assume worst in others. However, go and listen to the podcast by yourself just as I did and you wouldn't have any doubt that she is genuinely making fun of him.
Dear Peter, I hesitate to make a comment on your post. But the crash of Sargeant happened between turn 3 and 4. Not between 1 and 2. Does not matter at al, I know. But I know you are a man of details. Keep up the great work, just wanted to say!
landos was incredible. i watched the onboard. specially lap 11 and 12 i think the chicane. he took it perfect. that was world class. really impressive.
Everyone shitting on Oscar for not regularly beating Norris when he’s only halfway through his second season 🤣😂
The split between teammates throughout the field was remarkable.
Ya i was thinking the same. Hopefully we get a good race tomorrow.
Peter, you stuff up. Almost all people are referring Oscar to Prost-like. As an Australian who started watching F1 in 1982, Oscar has a Prost-like approach to driving.
Senna had the better pole ratio when compared to Prost, but at the end of the day, their win ratio was almost identical. Prost ended with 51 wins, the most F1 wins at the time, compared to Senna’s 41 wins.
Where Prost excelled was on Sunday. Prost had an analytical, intelligent and strategic mindset. Unlike Max or Michael Schumacher, Prost had the WDC champions as teammates, including:
- Niki Lauda (won the 1975, 1977 and 1984 WDCs)
- Keke Rosberg (won the 1982 WDC)
- Ayrton Senna (won the 1988, 1990 and 1991 WDCs)
- Nigel Mansell (won the 1992 WDC)
- Damon Hill (won the 1996 WDC)
Alain Prost achieved 4 WDCs and is very close to winning 6 WDCs. Prost lost out to Lauda in winning the 1984 WDC by 0.5 points, and Prost lost out to Senna in winning the 1988 WDC by 3 points.
You consider who Alain Prost’s teammates were; you must consider that Alain Prost sits behind Juan Manuel Fangio and Lewis Hamilton as the all-time greatest F1 driver, especially considering how unreliable the 1980s F1 cars were.
In the second season in F1, Oscar is sitting P4 in the driver’s standings, which is better than what Prost achieved. When comparing against F1 greatest, only three drivers did better than Oscar in their second season in F1.
Ranking of the F1 greats based on the second-year performance is as follows:
Lewis Hamilton was P1 in the Drivers’ Championship with 5 win.
Juan Manuel Fangio was P1 in the Drivers’ Championship with 3 win.
Michael Schumacher was P3 in the Drivers’ Championship with 1 win.
Ayrton Senna was P4 in the Drivers’ Championship with 2 wins.
Considering that Oscar is only 10 points behind Charles and catching him, only the two greatest F1 drivers are ahead of Oscar when you compare second-season results.
Both Lando and Oscar are great drivers, but Oscar has the more analytical, intelligent, strategic, and mature mindset, which is the same thing you can say about Prost.
But it all comes down to pace, and Lando very clearly has more of it. It is 9-5 advantage Lando in this years races. Qualifying this year is also 13-2 in Lando’s favor. I rate Piastri very highly, he is excellent. But Lando is faster.
@@Rimpreza sure but look at lando in his second season. Carlos was the better driver and outscored him that year and would you say that is the case now?
@@Rimpreza Lando is a damn good driver and so is Oscar. The prime goal of Oscar’s this year was to get tyre management under control and get better at his race pace management. It’s very rare for someone to be as competitive as Oscar in their second season. At the moment, Oscar is actually on par with Charles Leclerc and Ayrton Senna regarding second season performance. What I do see, is that Oscar approaches F1 weekends in the same way as Prost. His tyre management has been coming along nicely, as well as his overtakes. Come 2025, Lando may do better than Oscar in qualifying, but Oscar will most likely do better in the race itself.
Quite an odd interpretation of stats here, although I take your point that Piastri has arguably more of a Prost mentality.
1. 7 of Prost's wins came in the dominant '93 car against Hill in his first season of actual racing and not DNQ in a half-assed team.
2. Prost had 199 starts to Senna's 161.
3. Senna set up his car for qualifying and went all out, Prost focused on race pace and a pragmatic approach to scoring points. Which way is better....? Subjective.
4. Since the way points are allocated and the number races per season is totally different now, trying to grade drivers from different eras based on stats is largely pointless. All you can do is compare them to their contemporaries of the same period.
5. Yeah, Prost had some great teammates, but Lauda was at the end of his career, and Hill, who isn't as talented as Prost's other WDC teammates was at the start.
6. If not for Suzuka and Balestre, Senna may have had 4 titles and Prost only 3. Of course a title can come down to one crucial race or a few points.
7. Since Hamilton often needs his team to tell him what to do to win a race and he can't work out where he is relative to other drivers, and his own instinct can often cost him a win as much as gain him one, I'm not sure that Hamilton qualifies as "all-time great". Especially given that he never beat a teammate like Senna or Prost to a title, and most of his wins/titles are against fairly weak teammates like Bottas and Rosberg. I think Hamilton, Schumacher, Vettel and Verstappen's stats flatter them because of the number of races in a dominant car. And Hamilton more than the others for the sheer number of races.
8. What exactly is the point of 'second season results'? Schumacher and Senna didn't have a car as competitive as Piastri or Hamilton.
9. I think Piastri will have the better career than Norris, assuming they have equally competitive machinery.
@@michaelcobbin look guys, after today it’s pretty clear that he isn’t as fast as Norris. The best drivers don’t need 2 full seasons to be among the fastest. Max only beat Ricciardo in his 3rd season, but he already had more pace than him in his first season. Piastri may have Prost his ‘mindset’ but just isn’t fast enough to be on the level of Max, Lando, Charles etc.
The Macca looked immediately great, FP1 seeing Piastri in the rain planting it through the sweepers, had so much more grip and firm direction change. Likewise both cars got on the throttle so early out of turn 3. I can see why Oscar was disappointed in the end. Yes Norris imperiously floating the car through the corners in the cross-winds in qualifying was really something 👍
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Logan must have cost Williams millions in repairs
Out of the cost cap yes, but his uncle who is a war contractor will be paying. Will Williams get to make the budget cap work, though?
Another pay for driver. He will not be missed.
How much has LeClerc cost Ferrari?
@@413TomaccoRoadCharles scores points & podiums along the way, big difference
@@AdamB8791 Albon has...?
That pole was on par with Maxs recent Spa pole - a step up on the field...McL looking like they've got a car to grab a few poles for the rest of the season. The Ox might have free reign to race Lando, but i don't think he's gonna get close to Lando this weekend...Landos sectors all thru quali were great.
NGL it was a great lap, but I'm not convinced quali is a measure of race pace. He needs to nail the start and command the lead
azmania he can easily command the lead hes really quicj in races its just the starts
@@gojoxgeto879 I wish him the best but I think he's struggled with first stints when the car is heavy. Lando always has late pace
Max feels 0 pressure from anyone but max
@@JackAubreyy but redbull lol
Jack - Yes and donald is a stable-genius!
@@stephencurry8552 Donald Duck?
@@JackAubreyy Leveraged Buyout?
and his cheat brakes :D
Max for the win 100%
It is so hard to be a Daniel Ricciardo fan man… it’s getting tiring
Why do you get hard?
It sure is man. Smh
He’s gonna be testing wheelchairs in Uzbekistani F9.
Yeah it looked like he's cooked unfortunately
Time for Dan to go - hes more concerned with off track politics that his on track performance. its only horner keeping him there. He was the slowest of the four RB drivers and he's so delusional he thinks he deserves Perez seat. put LL Cool Jandal in now...Dan needs to go to indy car.
Peter, Do Formula One cars no longer go through a scrutineering process? I am wondering how the heck the Williams disqualification came about. Keep up the good work.
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Mr Windsor. I think Max might have to start driving with switch blade in pocket before he starts shocks some people😂
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There are only two things that could give Max the win tomorrow - rain and track knowledge. I tested and raced at Zandvoort more than any other circuit. There are places and lines to pick up grip known only to those who know this circuit in their sleep. Lando deserves the win, but don't write off Max for the win either..
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Russell would have been good for 3rd if Gasly wasn't ahead giving him dirty air in the wind. The top 4 is going to make for an insane start. Pressure on Max and Lando. And Russell will be looking for a cheeky move.
Oh not, not George with his "cheeky" moves.
It is racing, after all, so I'm not sure what a cheeky move would be. Would you call Schumacher's or Senna's moves cheeky? They didn't have time to pull alongside and say "sorry, old man, would you mind if I ever so gently edged in front of you - thanks mate!" And credit to George, every time one of his competitors is in a serious crash, he is checking to see if he needs to stop and help as I did when I raced. Not saying George is always perfect. Are you? I am not.
The comment about Sainz and Williams is ‘not disrespectful’? Really? Certainly negative, and unnecessary. Williams may be back markers now, but consider the travails of McLaren over many seasons.
mclaren have been up and down, but have had a lot more ups than Williams have
What channel (causing changeable wind/weather conditions) is Peter talking about? I hope he meant the sea, the North Sea. It's behind the main stands.
You are a God! Your unbelievable perceptiveness and your ability to articulate things so eloquently is a treat. Thank you for your commentaries 🙏🏼
You seem to ignore the fact that changing conditions might have influenced the results. I heard Albon saying, (and some other drivers too), that the wind made it a bit of a lottery.
Lando is probably the right pole-sitter, but the gap might also be flattered by circumstances. 0.5 seconds between Lando and Oscar is not what we've seen lately. And Lewis' 12th place was not how it looked like up to that moment.
Is there a possibility that the constant change of conditions had an impact on the results?
Exactly what I was thinking. With all due respect to Russel and Norris, there is no way in my mind that their teammates are this far behind.
Could be, but I think the McLaren is better though and Lando managed to pull out an amazing lap as well. Max made a couple of small mistakes, no doubt due to the car and the changing conditions. I think it is telling that the gap between Lando and Oscar is so big, can't recall when it was that big before. Must have been something due to changing conditions as well yesterday.
@@gogox98russel has an updated floor and ham doesn't
@@gogox98 It's pretty regular for Russell, often it's 2 tenths, sometimes 4 tenths.
With Lando on P1, Max will win the race,.On the second corner Lando will be second or third.
I think this time he'll actually hold 1st; especially with such a short distance to T1.. But I do think at some point (likely around the pit stops) Verstappen will be in front.
mclarens are to fast. if lando is smart just dont take to much risk and let max go if no other option, then pass max easily at lap 3 or 4. that mclaren with new updates are just fire
Piastri will smoke them all, BAM straight up the kyber pass on them both. The "Schtap" will take out "Norris the choker" & Piastri wins.!?
@@elecovanrenss1352 mate lando is so frustrated he wouldn't risk it for his life to go behind max for strategy. I see him racing to the limit especially after silverstone he will still feel bad losing his homerace.
Won't matter.. Mclaren are so fast on long runs
If Lando is in P1 after lap 1, I'm pretty sure McLaren will be telling Oscar to support Lando 100% so it's very much Lando's race to lose.
If the same "logic'' is applied to whose fastest first Lando should be the declared winner for the McLaren team.
Piastri should not challenge Norris because Norris has out qualified him.
and hope weather conditions don't change, and he has to make a decision
@@50garyAnd if Lando runs wide Oscar should wait behind patiently?
@@50gary its different if Oscar is the quicker driver the reason Hungary happened was because Oscar was leading the whole race and strategy meant they positions changed. Im sure they would switch back if that happened
‘still going on about Norris’ inherent superiority over Piastri. It’s getting tiresome. Let the results speak for themselves
Wasn’t Norris better than piastri ?!
@@964cuploveI have edited my comment accordingly
Yep his bias is getting boring
What bias? Seriously. He's been lauding Piastri's skills for ages. Today, Norris put in a stellar performance and deserves the praise. Some of you people need to understand that F1 pundits will sometimes praise a driver at the expense of your favourite driver. Now, who's biassed?
Certainly not how I heard it. It was more like look how impressive landos drive was against an equally impressive team mate.
Ut Oh, Peter is talking about short corners again....
someone really needs to tell Lando about short corners. Im sure he will be hugely grateful
Yeah…tiresome isn’t it
@@hectorshouse7348 I love Peter, and his story.. the guy was there! living it!... but as a racer myself, I cringe a bit when non racers talk about driving technique.
@@servethesongsto be fair to him, he’s always stressed that he’s giving an opinion. Shame he doesn’t develop the channel beyond his personality. He should use more visual aids imo
@youtuber-cc8sx yes, I'd say very setup dependent.. and you can usually take different corners of the same track with different lines that suit them. Late apex onto long straights for example
Dreary times for Peter, with Lando annihilating all his short corners theorycrafting.
Never understood the obsession with this tbh. He even said that Senna was a long corner driver
@@kesh_r For a regular person, it's not easy to tell the difference between how different pilots drive, much less what's due to the cars, what's due to their habits, and what's the overall fastest. Having a nearly proprietary way to rank the drivers via "short corners" is therefore quite an advantage for a youtuber. Does that hold any water? Not like a regular person could argue Peter.
Funny isn't it, that RB is losing its edge exactly as predicted by Jos Verstappen at the start of the season?
this hero to villain, then back to hero mentality in F1 commentary is just getting rediculous. last week Lando was broken by Oscar, the new number one at mclaren - now Lando is king again. Just stop it.
I find that's more with the punters on RUclips. Peter seems to have gone from loving Oscar in 2023 to not loving him in 2024.
That's what happens when you call it as you see it. That's what pundits (are supposed to) do.
@@JC-lu4se I have been seeing this as well from Peter. Clearly, Peter is biased towards Lando. As an Australian, it pissing me off that Australian can be so unfair against an up and coming Australian sports person competing at the top level and favour the British driver.
Very un-Australian like.
Same thing happens with the fans as well. 2 races he beats lando and suddenly he's gonna clinch p2 in the championship
@@sleepypixie8828 I’m Australian, so I have been supporting Oscar since he got into F1. Before you ask, I will be supporting Jack Doohan and Daniels Ricciardo as well.
Sainz amazing job ? which qualy's were you watching ?
Is S1+S2+S3 = total lap time? Might I suggest to use sector times with 3 digits after decimal point or check if they are correctly rounded to one digit after decimal point? Now, according to the table shown Ver is 0.2 seconds behind Nor, but in reality the difference was 0.356 seconds (0.4 seconds if rounded). That is 43.8% off.
Let's see if Peter's Lando can turn Saturday's P1 to a win.
Haas wasting a new set of softs for Hulk to go out first in Q1 was an absolutely ridiculous idea. Haas should be doing their banker a lot later.
I like the old track configuration more. I especially don't like turn 13. Let them go fast.
It is a shame in a way that within formula 1, real straight fights with near equal machinery are so rare. Because of the impact the machinery and conditions of the moment have, we rarely see those moments, for example often one of the two cars is clearly better due to better tyres. Would be great to see a head to head duel in equal machinery and conditions between the top drivers, such as Max, Lando, Oscar, Lewis, George, Charles and Carlos. I guess we have virtual racing for that.
Lando is again looking very sharp, but will his first-corner-curse strike once more on sunday?
thanks
Must have been a biggie if Logan dropped it between turns 1 and 2 - seeing as he got out of the car at turn 4...
3:53 Albon quali result discounted due to illegal floor volume. Starting back of the grid. 😢
Too bad…
can someone please make a visual diagram of what Peter means by “short corners”
What do you think a long corner is. It's about distance and time. Shorten less time and distance .. long we'll longer distance and longer time to get round it.
I believe it is what is also called a V corner, spending less time and covering less distance turning and more time driving on the straight before and after the apex.
He's done two videos on it. It's basically extending the straight a bit before turning and not taking a traditional apex which a long corner driver does, who makes the corner longer by rotating the car in a smooth arc. Short corner drivers have less time rotating the car and get the car straighter more quickly after the corner so they can go full throttle faster than a long corner driver.
@@MMAli-rq8kd A V line means you're turning earlier. Short corners means extending the straight and turning later.
There is a certain inevitability to Lando winning tomorrow, at least in my mind. I hope Max and RB can pull one out of the bag, as we haven't seen Max win in forever, but "the numbers don't lie", so I wouldn't hold my breath.
I don't know who's being saying Oscar is like Senna . Who ever it was most likely looking for Clicks. He is totally a different type of person and driver. .
If Max can't get to 1st place at the start
(the first 3 corners🙏!-) but instead holds on to second place, there is gonna be a chance for him to Undercut Lando...soo it should be an exciting strategic race today!
Hopefully Lando will have finally learnt how to cover off Max off the start.
Lewis gets a penalty because he is at a part of the track where there was nothing anyone could do, I guess Lewis will think it was already a lost weekend so why not throw a few grid penalty places in as well.
nothing anyone could do ? he was just on wrong side of track ... so he could have gone the inside , and not the racing line ... like all others did .. rules are clear , he impeded and got penalized .. Lewis knew he f.cked up , reason for his pathetic try to get away with it as usual ..
@@DouweEgbert So much hate, you could almost be a steward. Even Perez said afterwards that Hamilton tried his best to get out the way, it was just the wrong time wrong place - but hey - hate on.
Hamilton's job was not to be at the wrong place at the wrong time, that's why he was warned by his team. When Perez arrived it was already too late, but that's Hamilton's fault. Standard penalty.
@@DenUitvreter You carry on hating and Hamilton will get on with being a seven times drivers champion.
@@martincday007 Indeed, the least great multiple champion in the history of F1, the supreme car merchant like no one before.
Max definitely playing with fire on pit exit, but the live commentators, so greedy for something to talk about after a wrecked session, seemed to forget Monaco 2022 where the rule was clarified (after a 2021 amendment). The intention is alway to keep the slower car within the exit lane, so the rule became “no car’s tyre may cross the line on pit exit” from the previous wording of “no part of the car may cross” so Red Bull successfully argued on that day all of a wheel has to be over all of the line to “cross the line” and get a penalty. Its a good rule of thumb to say that pit exit white line is a wall, but in F1 now its more accurate to say beyond the line is soft soap 😼
Turn 1 and lap 1 will be interesting tomorrow. Will Peter be calling the stewards on Oscar again?
Will Lando finally break that first lap after a pole hoodoo?
Who's calling Oscar the next Senna?! I've heard of him being compared to Prost though. He's definitely the more consistent McLaren driver, highly likely he'll take second in the driver's championship. It'll be Oscar or Max tomorrow for the win after Norris chokes again
Oscar, definitely the more consistent driver, even after being comfortably behind for two years? 😂😂 Yeah, that's some great logic, bud. Well done.
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Norris the Choker he's not even remotely close to winning in the peanut gallery. He's had over 6 years & this is his best, being beaten by his team mate showing he's only a step removed from Ricciardo.
Prost didn’t get as many poles than what Senna did, but Prost got more wins than Senna. Why? Prost was focused on ensuring that the car was at its best in the GP race itself.
Prost was more consistent than Senna. I remember Senna was leading a Monaco Grand Prix, easily out in front, then next minute he crashed it Portier. Why? Senna simply lost focus.
Oscar is definitely more Prost like when comes to driving a F1. Since the Miami GP, seems to have gotten better overtaking others, especially on the outside and first two laps, which is Senna like driving.
But lando is beating the living shit out of Oscar? He is 2 champ positions up with double the podiums and up 15-4 in quali
Max on higher downforce than Checo , or not all the engine modes anymore?
17:50 Please stop nattering on about Lando yielding to team orders in Hungary (after many laps of team radio bad parenting and teenager petulance) at least long enough to listen to Zak Brown and to Andrea Stells's reasoned explanation of team philosophy and approach. Lando lost a lot more than those 7 points in bad pit calls and slow starts.
Regardless of what Lando lost in pit stops, slow starts, etc. and irrespective of how team Zak and Andrea spun it, he was forced to lose 7 points by team orders.
@@RayMelville Norris only got the *potentisll* for those 7 points because of team orders. Piastri had him beat that day
The problem with Norris is he's mental ability to sustain these techniques & he has proven over the years, he can't. This track will advantage the car in front but I feel the advantage & danger to Norris will come from behind he doesn't like being muscled or harrassed.
Logan binned it coming out of turn 3 not turn 1
Funny how the drivers rushed to get to the end of pit lane than drive like a old lady once on the track in P3
Did Lewis have floor damage?
According to the lap times, Lando should lap the entire field tomorrow. I thought F1 was trying to keep the racing close?
Lewis p12 qualifying isn’t bad for his status
Who is "Peter" at the end when it says, "in memory of..."?
It's his pet hamster
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I just hope if Mclaren win its not because.. they decided that at the start, a driver was in the lead..
Peter, you are not the Voice of the people. “People are thinking……..”
@peterwindsor . Peter i love your stuff. Except your biassed towards Lewis is a pain.. your happy to mention Max touches the line going past Lando snd you think the stewards should look at it ... but then you brushed off the Lewis blocking checo so quickly ( which the stewards are looking at and Lewis said in his interview he made a mistake ! 😮. I know you don't realise or intentionally be biassed about him But you are.. please please try correct this.. your the best out there. But this gets hard to take all the time..
on Lando and Oscar driving style differences, is that why Lando has the edge in tire management?
Always an excuse for Lewis when he doesn’t do well, but when he wins its all his own brilliance and not luck lol like Silverstone and spa..
Yeah...peter is definitely corrupt....he has a history of being one too...
its called an opinion. max fan here
He always tries to offer an explanation for every driver that doesn’t do well unexpectedly
. What are you talking about?
Your Awesome Peter!
Im not a hamilton fan but him getting a grid Penalty for inpeding perez in an absolute joke. He had nowhere to go, verstappen has had several incidents like this with no penalty
It was a rookie mistake. SLH44LGBTQ should know better.
i think the penalty is given because lewis got away with it so many times. that enough is enough. a 7 times world champ should know better. he should have not slowed down, but go faster and slow down after the chicane. noone else had a problem except lewis.
@@wreagfe lol
@@wreagfeSLH44G. Is enough.........
Like Perez said, he was penalized for less. Lewis got what he deserved
Max had a bad sector 3 it's game on tomorrow
Het schijnt dat James klaar is met Logan en dat of Mick Schumacher of Liam Lawson het stoeltje overneemt tot 2025.
Sainz is al bevestigd.
@@makkert klopt maar pas in 2025, ik hoorde Mick of Liam vanaf Monza bij Williams
Does anyone find it a bit hard to believe Norris is over .3 seconds ahead of everyone else?
Nope
What the fuck are you talking about? Are you suggesting the timing table is incorrect?
@@ZionicleCalm down potty mouth. He clearly means it’s not logical for someone to be that far ahead on a short track. Check your emotional immaturity level.
I think he finally found the limit of the car. It took a while but eventually he got it and it shows that Mclaren was and is the best car atm
@@ZionicleDon’t question officials like a good socialist
You said Red Bull had a secret brake tick and this was wrong. Scarbs was wrong. Cameron F1 was wrong. Will you apologise for speculating and slurring a team for no reason?
This idiot said toto has no understanding of f1...this guy is biased and Cameron f1 channel survives on controversial slurs
Logan crashed out of t3 t4 not 1-2
Lando will screw it up as always … third tomorrow .. piastri… max.. Lando with George-peter perfect- Russel in 4th. As for the “poor old lewis”… 😂😂😂… I just moved watching him struggle
Have you died or something? What is this momerial at the end?
Strange rush of blood fro MV Peter (at the start) are you serious ?
He criticized your boy? Must be tough.
@@98MTBikernot criticism, just reaching. He probably does that to gain views which I understand
@@GTAracingUK I don't always agree with him but this time I do. Max crossed the white line on pit exit, if it was Hulkenberg, Ocon or any other midfield driver doing it would have been at least investigated if not penalized.
@@98MTBiker Stewards gave the meatball.
@@caseybankright8260 You mean a black and white flag? Meatball indicates you need to bring in a broken car to be fixed.
Pet: 13:03 13:30 14:42 16:22 (3:13 3:36 4:02)
Ver: 3:23 13:03 14:55, 17:51
2024: 3:36 16:20 16:33
Lando did not, "throw those points away," the team did.
Ha-ha 😊 Lando beating Max in a straight race , weather interference aside!!!!!! .......... surely you must be joking!!! Ha-ha 😊😊
It's OK, Norris will probably mess up the start and we'll have a good race.
As a Lando fan I do hope he can nail the start tomorrow. The Hype around Oscar was getting on my nerves and Lando today was sublime and shows he still has it over Oscar. Not diminishing Oscar though he is a great driver.
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7:10 saying left foot brake is obvious and meaningless in 2024. Everybody left foot brakes, it's not even possible to right foot brake, the feet are so tight in the pedal box nowadays.
"Engine brake", which is what he was saying lando did
@@jimmy_james_Yea but right after my timestamp he is talking about Oscar and he definitely says left foot brake. Get your ears checked.
Merc second best car
Perhaps. Max did genuinely drop time on his best lap, though.
@@Cloxxki yep Russell also
Are you an Aussie or a pom?
another deluded video Peter xD
Yo peter any lies today
Interesting you couldn’t recognize red bull has been cheating with braking for years to improve balance and rotation the car to just kill all other manufacturers for years… too bad.,😢
Ferrari your car is junk. upgrades are junk. you are falling down the championship tables. Sergeant your check is not big enough to stay in f1. make way for sainz as he enjoys his retirement in the back with williams. Danny Ric's career has been done for years. The red bull needs to dump him already. he should try out nascar.
Short corner blah blah blah, .4s over Max by driving longer.
Did you listen? The corners are pretty much set in stone so short vs long corners aren't relevant on this track.
I just want to say Ricardo is finished and should relinquish his seat by Monza for a younger driver!! Jaq Vilnueve was 1000% correct !!
Horner loves him…for some strange reason
@@hectorshouse7348 He probably has dirt on horner. :^)
@@TomBoss123
These replies… so bitchy 😂
Man… Flea is really smart when he wants to..
3:38 Hamilton got 3 place grid penalty. Sam Collins analysis on F1 thought Hamilton was not at fault. Stewards concluded he should have slowed down.
brtish bias there. lewis did indeed impede checo
This is how bias and stupid the stewards are , hamilton did his best to stay off the racing line, but have to drift back on the racing line exiting the corner, what should he do stop dead,pretty dangerous or go on the grass.max didnt even get a warning for his behaviour in pit lane.
@@devonledgister3997 stay of the racing line ? he was on the wrong side to do so ..lol ...try again
Sky "Hamilton Mania " and some F1
@@devonledgister3997 His best was obviously not good enough. Many such incidents.
God Hamilton is awful when he doesn't have the outright fastest car. 😂 Max vs lewis? I know Lewis isn't winning anything in the same car 😂
what a dumb comment, the wind change affected merc the team even said so some cars are more sensitive to wind than others merc has been one of those for years? based on your logic why was max not on pole when hes dominated this track since its been back on the calendar can you answer that ??
@@zattanna74What nonsense is your post , Max is driving 3 th fast car
@@Pelinassecond quickest, let’s not exaggerate
Great comment. Very true.
@@Pelinas 2nd fastest this weekend, otherwise Perez would be P8
Russell was 'show boating' today. We predict that he will DNF in the race.
Fernando Alonso wins a wet, dry, wet Dutch Grand Prix in Holland.
I find it AMAZING that SLH can get a penalty for ANYTHING! MADMAX doesn't??
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What the f=-k is SLH ?!
Get a life man
Still not taking your pills???
Sir Lewis@@964cuplove