I"m back 4mo later and idea I have. Instead of 3/4 plywood for sides ... 2x4 maybe a 2x6 might work even better to attach some sort of hardware to that you can make some dropin dividers .... thus able to make flexible size tray .... Got a step-son-in-law that's gun ho about doing stuff .... gonna get his help in making this.
Noice! I usually HATE watching RUclips instructional videos.... I'd rather read an Instructable over watching most people's videos but, you sir nailed it. No annoying music, no hour and a half segments where you don't say anything, everything was to the point yet detailed enough for people watching, to grasp the concept or instruction and mimic it at home. Hats off to you sir. I will be subscribing
I actually built this about 2 years ago and it works great!! Just be sure that you allow that felt to set in place first, otherwise it can rub off. The only other thing is, weight is a factor! I have been tinkering with the idea of replacing the felt slide with wheel bearings from Harbor Freight, hoping it will make the slide movement a little easier, but just haven't done it. Great design and I show it off to everyone who has a truck and tell them they need to build one themselves! Great job Jeremy!!
Love the simplicity! May not be as robust as a commercial product, but totally adequate for day-to-day use. The best part is how low it is and does not sacrifice much of the headroom under the tonneau cover. It's a winner.
Made one very similar, but used indoor/outdoor carpet on the top of the drawer. Also took strips of Formica and lined the boards where you put the felt. Everything works like a charm. No pealing and no problem. Slides very easily.
Great design...simple, effective, and inexpensive...Video incorporated humor, animals, and easy to follow instructions...My 2005 Avalanche will be getting one of these this weekend...I think the cat loves you...Thanks for this great video...Larry
This is so good! I like that you don't lose much height at all for drawer slides or bearings or wheels, the essence of simplicity. It is one BIG step above my current bed slide which is a piece of cardboard that really doesn't slide well at all.
I made one similar to this. I put Formica slides from a countertop under mine for the slides and put indoor/outdoor carpeting on the top so nothing would slide around. It works really well.
I found your video while searching for ideas about bed slides. I stole your design and it is excellent. I used a lot more felt in the hopes of improving the slide with a lot of weight on it. I used outdoor carpeting on it to keep things from moving around. I also put tie downs on the tops of the sides to strap down items that might tip over. Works perfectly. Although, with heavy items, it does require some effort to pull out and push back. Still, it is better than a 1500 permanent slide that robs 3" of height in the bed. Thanks for showing me how to make this!
Sir, Keep it simple I always say. Which you did just that. Brother my hat off to you for a great idea and being down to earth when doing the video. You rock!
Good idea and really useful. Made one for my F150 - sure beats the restraints I was using and a lot better for my knees. Video was well done and to the point. Thanks for the tip.
Came across this looking for ideas to put a 6 foot long slide in our rv pass through. Going with 1/2" and glue a piece of hard board to it since the pass is carpeted. Then I'll add some collapsing legs for support... Simplest solutions are always the best IMO ... Great work bud! You did all the hard work for us.
Just made one this aft 67 bucks Home Depot and one hour labour this is what i always wanted a slide out for my Avalanche works awesome ***** thx Jeremy.
Thanks from Australia! Great idea! I like the low profile compared to any bearing model, giving you some more vertical space. The felt is fine and I've mounted the Milwaukee Packout system onto the slide, full of heavy tools and it works well! Video is straight to the point, no nonsense.
I admire how you've made the complex simple. Glad I found your video. Best DIY video I've seen in a long time. 1 questions-1 suggestion. Have you or anyone, used furniture sliders instead of the felt. I live down a dirt road and even with a tonneau cover, dust gets in. It may be easier to clean the sliders than the felt...just wondering. The suggestion...take some Johnson's Paste Wax in the yellow can, and wax the hardboard/Masonite. I've used it on many hardboard projects and it makes it twice as slick and will help with the moisture issues. Also, try painting the underside and edges of the hardboard with flat exterior paint to seal from moisture. It will still grip the rubber mat but will be more water resistant. Thanks.
Great ideas are usually simple. This should be perfect for by truck. I will put higher edging so things don't fall off the side or front. Thanks Jeremy.
My neighbor made one based on your video...worked perfectly....great design...worked very well.....until it rained....now its a buckled up mess of warped wood. I told him it would only work if you have a topper or tonneau cover to keep it dry.
Nicely done, sir! Simplicity at it's finest and most functional design. Yours if the first video I found, once I had the idea to make one for the 2002 Avalanche I just purchased. Suits my needs perfectly! Kudos to you, and hope the soccer game was a good one.
Jeremy Grizzle I had just walked out of Home Depot with the materials for this when you replied! Love it! Used to live in College Park.Ga. In Florida now. Will send a pic or post a video when I get done with mine. Thanks again!
I like the simplicity - a lot of other DIY slide videos are nicely engineered, but they use a lot of space up with rows of casters and/or drawers.. this is efficient and simple.. I like the bowlines for stopping it.. just so nicely simple and effective
I've seen a lot of RUclips videos on sliding floors for truck beds and your version is the simplest and cheapest way to go I am going to build one for my truck. I like your black cat and little dog I have several my self great idea AL from upstate New York 👍👍👍👍👍
For anyone looking to try this. Take from this what you will, but I just built exactly this setup while using a large sheet of suede instead of felt strips. And with about 350lb of tools on the tray there’s no way to make it work. I don’t think felt would have been any better, but in my opinion, opposing UHMW strips sliding on each other will be the best way to make the manual pull system work with any weight on it without slides.
Great vid and thanks for sharing. Oh and by the way, on my Ram 1500, I only need to kick the tire once to open the bed cover. They have an upgrade that allows you to just say “Cover, Open half way”, to operate it….😎
i recently bought a pick up truck and needed a bed slide to get my equipment that i will use often. wanting to save money and space i tried this version. i just finished it yesterday and while it works its not as easy to use as i had hoped. with about 200lbs on the slide (two road cases about 40lbs each, wheeled cart, clothing bag, back drop stands in soft zipper case and anther small case and it was difficult to slide out. not impossible but not super simple. you really have to use some strength to get it to slide out. and once it hit the tailgate it was like hitting the brakes. so i cut a piece of hardboard and velcroed it to the inside of the tail gate and that helped but still not super easy. pushing it all back in was a job too! over all its a neat idea and if you are not putting much weight then it should be great for you but 200lbs or more and prepare for a work out. by the way i used 3/4 inch plywood due to knowing ahead of time i would be putting heavier equipment in there. it works for now but most likely will invest in a real bed slide down the road.
This is nice because it doesn’t take up height like a drawer system, and easy to remove if doing work that requires the whole bed (mulch). Also much cheaper! Thanks!
I did something similar a couple of years ago, but put 2 inch wheels on it, and made aluminum tracks for the wheels to roll in. Then I glued indoor/outdoor carpet on the whole thing. I load a lot of weight, so I don't know if the slide would move in and out easily without wheels.
I've been thinking about using two side by side sheets of 1/4" ply to slide my camping gear forward to the tailgate. Most things are compartmentalized in plastic totes so I want a simple solution instead of building large slide outs boxes. Thanks for the ideas.
Tnx, Built one last wkend for the Ranger > your vid made it look doable, even for non-woodworking guy. Turned out great > I cut some slots in upright boards to run some 3/4" dowels across (to keep things in place).
Nice work. On my 2018 Chevy 1500 I have the PowertraxPRO XR electric retractable truck bed cover with a full Bed rug. I purchased a Plano Heavy-Duty Sportsman's Trunk and use it to hold grocery's and use the lid for the same. I have been thinking of making a full bed slider and your video was inspiring. Thanks.
Love this simple bed slide! If I could make a suggestion, I'd substitute the felt and hardboard for plastic panel (frp), which should slide nice and easy and be weather proof. I'd just flip it to the slippery side down and affix it to the bottom of the bedslide.
Great idea, but I wouldn't put any sides on the 1/2in plywood. One other problem with the Avalanche system is when you fold up the seats for 8 ft the plastic hinge is obstructing and the bed angles up at that point. Sliding the 1/2in sheet back over the plastic will make loading easier.
Good idea. The main thing keeping me from putting a slide in my 80 series land cruiser is the height of the slider mechanism. I'll probably start with this now, to see how much we use it. Easy removal is handy, too.
There are several DIY bed sliders out there. THIS is nice and simple. A sheet of plywood, some 1 x 4s and a litte carpet for the bottom to slide on. Im heading to Home Dumpo now.
I do a lot with my Chevy avalanche, I made a bed slide using wheels which works great, but it does reduce the amount of room. I have about 2 to 3 inches I think I’m gonna redo mine inspired by yours.
I like this. Going to do this for my Tacoma. Light duty recreational use. This is cheap and not much can go wrong with it. Probably use a mesh tarp to hold things in place with some clips.
Great design and function! Awesome video also. Only issue with my Ava is the leakage problem I have with tonneau covers. No point in fabricating a bed slide that will get destroyed with the next rainfall.
I was thinking the same. Probably solved with some slight modifications including polyurethane on woodwork, get rid of rubber mat that traps moisture - or better yet put matt on top of slider. Instead of felt sliders use some kind of a plastic or wood rail for sliders.
Cat at 2:16..."Oh, I see he washed the truck again. I'm going to jump up and get footprints all over his hood. Now wait until the camera is blocked....Go!"
a guy could nail or screw compartments into it as well, even with lids or a box with other drawers, maybe use a roller dowel ( pin, bolt or dowel with a sealed bearing at the end) in the backside of the shelf so when its fully out the dowel holds it from teetering, holds it down .. in your case a carriage bolt out thru the inner side of your bed liner work great for that, use two nuts to secure a small sealed bearing....easy nuff, maybe need 3/4" on each side for the race.. worth it in case you have something heavy way out on the end but nothing at the back.. hold it down so it wont flip on you . . . :-) real good idea tho they want a bundle for those roll outs and they take up so much room, most are at least 8" tall? no thanks
This is a wonderful idea, hope you dont mind I use your idea.... i do want to ask if your bed covers leak? If so, have you tried anything to waterproof the bed?
I like this method. Just hardboard and plywood ... no fancy hardware. Definitely this is going to be my inspiration.
I"m back 4mo later and idea I have.
Instead of 3/4 plywood for sides ... 2x4 maybe a 2x6 might work even better to attach some sort of hardware to that you can make some dropin dividers .... thus able to make flexible size tray ....
Got a step-son-in-law that's gun ho about doing stuff .... gonna get his help in making this.
Noice! I usually HATE watching RUclips instructional videos.... I'd rather read an Instructable over watching most people's videos but, you sir nailed it. No annoying music, no hour and a half segments where you don't say anything, everything was to the point yet detailed enough for people watching, to grasp the concept or instruction and mimic it at home. Hats off to you sir. I will be subscribing
I actually built this about 2 years ago and it works great!! Just be sure that you allow that felt to set in place first, otherwise it can rub off. The only other thing is, weight is a factor! I have been tinkering with the idea of replacing the felt slide with wheel bearings from Harbor Freight, hoping it will make the slide movement a little easier, but just haven't done it. Great design and I show it off to everyone who has a truck and tell them they need to build one themselves! Great job Jeremy!!
Love the simplicity! May not be as robust as a commercial product, but totally adequate for day-to-day use. The best part is how low it is and does not sacrifice much of the headroom under the tonneau cover. It's a winner.
Made one very similar, but used indoor/outdoor carpet on the top of the drawer. Also took strips of Formica and lined the boards where you put the felt. Everything works like a charm. No pealing and no problem. Slides very easily.
Great design...simple, effective, and inexpensive...Video incorporated humor, animals, and easy to follow instructions...My 2005 Avalanche will be getting one of these this weekend...I think the cat loves you...Thanks for this great video...Larry
This is so good! I like that you don't lose much height at all for drawer slides or bearings or wheels, the essence of simplicity. It is one BIG step above my current bed slide which is a piece of cardboard that really doesn't slide well at all.
Made one for my Avalanche, couldn't be happier with it, so simple works so well with less than an inch loss of height. Thanks!
I made one similar to this. I put Formica slides from a countertop under mine for the slides and put indoor/outdoor carpeting on the top so nothing would slide around. It works really well.
I found your video while searching for ideas about bed slides. I stole your design and it is excellent. I used a lot more felt in the hopes of improving the slide with a lot of weight on it. I used outdoor carpeting on it to keep things from moving around. I also put tie downs on the tops of the sides to strap down items that might tip over. Works perfectly. Although, with heavy items, it does require some effort to pull out and push back. Still, it is better than a 1500 permanent slide that robs 3" of height in the bed. Thanks for showing me how to make this!
Could we lose 2inches of height and put casters and a track?
Just finished my slide for my F150 based on your design, works great, thanks for the tip.
Sir, Keep it simple I always say. Which you did just that. Brother my hat off to you for a great idea and being down to earth when doing the video. You rock!
Good idea and really useful. Made one for my F150 - sure beats the restraints I was using and a lot better for my knees. Video was well done and to the point. Thanks for the tip.
Came across this looking for ideas to put a 6 foot long slide in our rv pass through. Going with 1/2" and glue a piece of hard board to it since the pass is carpeted. Then I'll add some collapsing legs for support... Simplest solutions are always the best IMO ... Great work bud! You did all the hard work for us.
Just made one this aft 67 bucks Home Depot and one hour labour this is what i always wanted a slide out for my Avalanche works awesome ***** thx Jeremy.
This video should be the top result for bed slides. It deserves all the likes. I’m going to make this for my truck tomorrow.
Thanks! Hope you like it as much as I do!
Thanks from Australia! Great idea! I like the low profile compared to any bearing model, giving you some more vertical space. The felt is fine and I've mounted the Milwaukee Packout system onto the slide, full of heavy tools and it works well!
Video is straight to the point, no nonsense.
I made one for my Ford Ranger 2 years ago and painted it black ,it's still going strong, thanks to this video,and it's saved so much pain on my knees🤘
That's awesome to hear!
Genius! Simplicity at its finest
Thanks. I just bought an old Chevrolet Avalanche 2004. And I have a lot to do! Good luck with everything! Greetings from Russia!
Easiest simple design I’ve seen. I’m gonna have to give this a try! 👍🏻
I admire how you've made the complex simple. Glad I found your video. Best DIY video I've seen in a long time.
1 questions-1 suggestion. Have you or anyone, used furniture sliders instead of the felt. I live down a dirt road and even with a tonneau cover, dust gets in. It may be easier to clean the sliders than the felt...just wondering. The suggestion...take some Johnson's Paste Wax in the yellow can, and wax the hardboard/Masonite. I've used it on many hardboard projects and it makes it twice as slick and will help with the moisture issues. Also, try painting the underside and edges of the hardboard with flat exterior paint to seal from moisture. It will still grip the rubber mat but will be more water resistant. Thanks.
Good tip
I like the low profile design and the simplicity. Nice job!
Great ideas are usually simple. This should be perfect for by truck. I will put higher edging so things don't fall off the side or front. Thanks Jeremy.
My neighbor made one based on your video...worked perfectly....great design...worked very well.....until it rained....now its a buckled up mess of warped wood. I told him it would only work if you have a topper or tonneau cover to keep it dry.
Google Reviewer Yup! It’s gotta stay dry. Mine is still going strong!
@@grizzlephotovideo exactly, and the Avalanche will not stay dry.
Scott Makseyn mine does. Being using mine for 2 years with no problems.
You nailed it! Easy,cheap,fast and just works...
KITTY!! I love this project.
Thanks for this from the UK.
Quick and simple, just what I was after, I would never have thought of using felt and a slippy surface.
Where did you get felt?
Nicely done, sir! Simplicity at it's finest and most functional design. Yours if the first video I found, once I had the idea to make one for the 2002 Avalanche I just purchased. Suits my needs perfectly! Kudos to you, and hope the soccer game was a good one.
Thanks! Glad it was a help to you.
Jeremy Grizzle I had just walked out of Home Depot with the materials for this when you replied! Love it! Used to live in College Park.Ga. In Florida now. Will send a pic or post a video when I get done with mine.
Thanks again!
Jerem's Projects, Thank you for this brilliant idea. It works like a charm for me ! Thanks for sharing.
Awesome! So glad it was a help to you!
I like the simplicity - a lot of other DIY slide videos are nicely engineered, but they use a lot of space up with rows of casters and/or drawers.. this is efficient and simple.. I like the bowlines for stopping it.. just so nicely simple and effective
ALSO love the cat!
So stupidly simple it's brilliant. I'm going copy your idea for my F150 5.5' bed. Good looking black cat too.
I've seen a lot of RUclips videos on sliding floors for truck beds and your version is the simplest and cheapest way to go I am going to build one for my truck. I like your black cat and little dog I have several my self great idea AL from upstate New York 👍👍👍👍👍
For anyone looking to try this. Take from this what you will, but I just built exactly this setup while using a large sheet of suede instead of felt strips. And with about 350lb of tools on the tray there’s no way to make it work.
I don’t think felt would have been any better, but in my opinion, opposing UHMW strips sliding on each other will be the best way to make the manual pull system work with any weight on it without slides.
....i thought I was tripping when he started kicking the truck 😂😂😂
Simple, elegant and effective, love it
Thanks for posting your video. I added large furniture movers, liquid nailed them. The board floats now.
Glad it was helpful!
Great vid and thanks for sharing.
Oh and by the way, on my Ram 1500, I only need to kick the tire once to open the bed cover. They have an upgrade that allows you to just say “Cover, Open half way”, to operate it….😎
Really smart! Thanks for sharing to help the guy like me that knows what he wants but not sure how to bring it to fruition. Nice job.
Love the stoppers! Dirt simple! And personally, all you need to do is to screw it in from the bottom. But I love this!
i recently bought a pick up truck and needed a bed slide to get my equipment that i will use often. wanting to save money and space i tried this version. i just finished it yesterday and while it works its not as easy to use as i had hoped. with about 200lbs on the slide (two road cases about 40lbs each, wheeled cart, clothing bag, back drop stands in soft zipper case and anther small case and it was difficult to slide out. not impossible but not super simple. you really have to use some strength to get it to slide out. and once it hit the tailgate it was like hitting the brakes. so i cut a piece of hardboard and velcroed it to the inside of the tail gate and that helped but still not super easy. pushing it all back in was a job too! over all its a neat idea and if you are not putting much weight then it should be great for you but 200lbs or more and prepare for a work out. by the way i used 3/4 inch plywood due to knowing ahead of time i would be putting heavier equipment in there.
it works for now but most likely will invest in a real bed slide down the road.
If your equipment fits in 2' area. Cut 4' sheet in half & make 2-2' sheets. Cut weight in half.
This is nice because it doesn’t take up height like a drawer system, and easy to remove if doing work that requires the whole bed (mulch). Also much cheaper! Thanks!
Much WIN. Excellent use of space and materials.
Stay gold.
Love it.. And also your pets the kitty and the dog
I did something similar a couple of years ago, but put 2 inch wheels on it, and made aluminum tracks for the wheels to roll in. Then I glued indoor/outdoor carpet on the whole thing. I load a lot of weight, so I don't know if the slide would move in and out easily without wheels.
Loved the kick feature! Wish they had that for x wives!
Simplicity and functionality at its best.
I've been thinking about using two side by side sheets of 1/4" ply to slide my camping gear forward to the tailgate. Most things are compartmentalized in plastic totes so I want a simple solution instead of building large slide outs boxes. Thanks for the ideas.
Thanks. Just got my 2006 6 months ago. Now I need the slide for my golf clubs and fishing gear.
Tnx, Built one last wkend for the Ranger > your vid made it look doable, even for non-woodworking guy. Turned out great > I cut some slots in upright boards to run some 3/4" dowels across (to keep things in place).
Awesome! I'm glad this was useful for you!
Nice work. On my 2018 Chevy 1500 I have the PowertraxPRO XR electric retractable truck bed cover with a full Bed rug. I purchased a Plano Heavy-Duty Sportsman's Trunk and use it to hold grocery's and use the lid for the same. I have been thinking of making a full bed slider and your video was inspiring. Thanks.
Great video, thanks for sharing! This is exactly what I want to do with my truck, love the KISS method. Sometimes we overthink things. Thanks again!!
Love this simple bed slide! If I could make a suggestion, I'd substitute the felt and hardboard for plastic panel (frp), which should slide nice and easy and be weather proof. I'd just flip it to the slippery side down and affix it to the bottom of the bedslide.
Simple and ingenious! Thanks for sharing!
The BEST solution to my quest for my GX470. Thank you Jeremy/
Glad you found it helpful!
I like your idea of this slide. !!! But can you show me how to install that kick to get rid of those nasty bed covers. I gotta get me one. thanks.
Great idea, but I wouldn't put any sides on the 1/2in plywood. One other problem with the Avalanche system is when you fold up the seats for 8 ft the plastic hinge is obstructing and the bed angles up at that point. Sliding the 1/2in sheet back over the plastic will make loading easier.
Good idea. The main thing keeping me from putting a slide in my 80 series land cruiser is the height of the slider mechanism. I'll probably start with this now, to see how much we use it. Easy removal is handy, too.
Yup! Takes up very little space!
Nice and simple. I will have to try this for my truck. Thanks for sharing.
There are several DIY bed sliders out there. THIS is nice and simple. A sheet of plywood, some 1 x 4s and a litte carpet for the bottom to slide on. Im heading to Home Dumpo now.
Exactly! Good luck with yours!
Wade Older ggg
Nicely Done man, simple and will be functional. going to have to make one for my Av.
Very cool, been thinking about replacing my old ram with an Avalanche.
I'm late to the party; but this was really cool. Thanks for sharing!
that is freaking brilliant! I was thinking to have small wheels all over the place but that would be too complicated of a built.
Great idea. Simple, quick and easy.
Is this for transporting pillows and blankets? Great idea thank you for sharing.
I do a lot with my Chevy avalanche, I made a bed slide using wheels which works great, but it does reduce the amount of room. I have about 2 to 3 inches I think I’m gonna redo mine inspired by yours.
I like this. Going to do this for my Tacoma. Light duty recreational use. This is cheap and not much can go wrong with it. Probably use a mesh tarp to hold things in place with some clips.
That's really cool. I want to try that on my Avalanche,
Perfect! Beats $800.00 and up to get the same results. Thanks for uploading.
Great design and function! Awesome video also. Only issue with my Ava is the leakage problem I have with tonneau covers. No point in fabricating a bed slide that will get destroyed with the next rainfall.
I was thinking the same. Probably solved with some slight modifications including polyurethane on woodwork, get rid of rubber mat that traps moisture - or better yet put matt on top of slider. Instead of felt sliders use some kind of a plastic or wood rail for sliders.
Sweet looking truck! And very ingenious!
You can buy glue on uhmw tape that might work for the slides.
Great easy ideas you have implemented here.
Simple,! Efficient,! Effective,! That’s awesome! Thanks for sharing!
thank you. the slick board is much better than reg. plywood or the dumb particle board I was going to use.
Great idea. What a lovely dog is he she old I love jack russells
Yeah, she is about 15 years old now.
Cat at 2:16..."Oh, I see he washed the truck again. I'm going to jump up and get footprints all over his hood. Now wait until the camera is blocked....Go!"
Well done. Just what I was looking for. Thanks.
Love this! Building mine tomorrow many thanks for sharing 👍🏼👌
Oh c'mon, no more log rolling under the covers to get that last item. Very nice, good idea dude 🤙
Done so many times, I lost count. Haha
Good job! I am using your idea in the next few weeks. Thank you for posting this.
One of the best videos I've seen in my life
thank u! I took ur advice and it worked out great! I just saved $$$$$
Great solution! Well done.
Well done, that looks like something I can do.
elegant in it's simplicity
That is so awesome thank you for sharing!!
Thanks for Sharing. I guess I’ll be putting my tools to use soon.
That’s slick!
Great idea, you should of been working for them prior to production. We would all be happier for it..
Thanks. Like the 2 board stops w cord. Am off the buy plywood ha ha
Nice and simple. Like all good ideas.
That's awesome. Smart dude 👌
a guy could nail or screw compartments into it as well, even with lids or a box with other drawers, maybe use a roller dowel ( pin, bolt or dowel with a sealed bearing at the end) in the backside of the shelf so when its fully out the dowel holds it from teetering, holds it down .. in your case a carriage bolt out thru the inner side of your bed liner work great for that, use two nuts to secure a small sealed bearing....easy nuff, maybe need 3/4" on each side for the race.. worth it in case you have something heavy way out on the end but nothing at the back.. hold it down so it wont flip on you . . . :-)
real good idea tho they want a bundle for those roll outs and they take up so much room, most are at least 8" tall? no thanks
This is a wonderful idea, hope you dont mind I use your idea.... i do want to ask if your bed covers leak? If so, have you tried anything to waterproof the bed?
No. Mine do not leak.
Nice you think about putting rhino liner over top of board
The flex seal was a nice touch. I have a 2008, same color, with 172k.
I am looking for an avalanche from 2007+ . any advices on what to look out for ?
Awesome, thanks for sharing!
Nicely done!
No Height Loss, No Problem Removing It, and No Great Cash Outlay make This One a No Brainer!!