Everything wrong with Overwatch has nothing to do with its cinematics which is just set dressing. The problem is OP new characters put out with zero buffs for struggling characters like Moira and Mercy. They keep pumping out super strong new characters without rebalancing those with older, outdated kits.
That concept art makes me sad because I know that Blizzard higher ups wont let the artists make a hero that isnt traditionally attractive like every recent one we've gotten. No more hammonds or winstons for me ig
A good middle ground would be to make Kirikos spirit fox playable. That way you get an animal, can piggy back off of Kirikos popularity and you get a hot fox character that you can use to appeal to furries which is a huge untapped market lol
Man I used to love your content but then you made a TikTok about one bad game you had with a Brig or something on Colloseo and since then all your content has been negative rage bait. Hazard is the most fun I've had on Tank in a hot minute, he's almost universally agreed on to be awesome personality and gameplay wise with just needing to tweak his primary to feel a bit better even if you gotta take a little power out of the rest of his kit.
They need to bring back the old team with jeff somehow to get back to glory days imo. They had the original vision, which is what i think is missing from ow. Also, take out the 2 and just make it overwatch again!
They fumbled the only thing that I think was the main reason for people to play: Compelling characters. Making an atractive strong white dude be part of a gang called "the phreaks" in the same universe JunkRat, Roadhog and Reaper exist just shows how little they know about their own world they created. And To me teh fact he has prosthetics or augmentations doen't make him a freak simply because there are tons of otehr characters who have the same things if not worse. And even the people on the Phreak gang are just some guys? Like, there is a fat omnic, so what? Being fat doesn't make you a freak. And the leads they left for us to follow pointed to a completely different story, you know? There were no news stories about ´phreaks attacking some place, of Kinda dissapointed that the fans of the game actually came with a better idea for Hazzard than whatever convoluded (and yet shallow) story he has.
It’s only just clicked for me the Deja vu I’m getting with the OW vs Rivals discourse. In particular, what’s being said in the OW community in relation to rivals is very similar to what was being said in the TF2 community when OW was coming out. Both had: - Widespread dissatisfaction in the state of the game at the time, particularly prior to marvels/ OW release - An expectation of the devs releasing something big to compete with the new release. Then subsequent disappointment when the devs didn’t. -Dwindling developer support (albeit for very different reasons). I’m sure there were more that I can’t just think of, but it’s interesting to see these parallels between when OW was the big new competitor on the block getting all the attention to now when it faces its own brand new competitor stealing OW’s thunder.
Played overwatch since 2016. This year finally decided to let it go. Became another shitty, toxic cash grab game with terrible balancing choices, among MANY other horrible decisions. Never again.
"compete with marvel rivals" rivals isnt even out yet no one knows how well it will do I do remember a lot of people had issues with its design deicions as well and many of the complaints i see on OW gameplay also apply to rivals. plus with no role que in rivals have fun with no support or tanks.
Dude give up we been waiting on a game from marvel that's anything like overwatch so we can finally leave overwatch if this game is any I mean any good overwatch is done son
Dude i have more fun watching marvel rivals videos than i have playing overwatch and that's sad overwatch is dead i already uninstalled it ready for marvel rivals
I don't want overwatch to close because obviously it won't be beneficial for the players, it's just that this game is already 8 years old and we're just telling the truth about it without rose-colored glasses. Whether you like the bitter truth or not is another question. Personally, I also treat Marvel rivals with caution without blind faith in the future, the game is doing well but this does not mean that it will always be like this. P.S Separately, I would like to praise Marvel Rivals for its survey system. I am pleased to know that the developers listen to the community.
you just sound burnt out of overwatch to me. sure you can call the lack of cinematics disappointing, but with the little budget they have they are doing their absolute hardest to keep the game afloat reliably while keeping their notably growing audience around. the balance has been consistently better than it ever was in ow1, the recent characters are INCREDIBLY well designed, with venture juno and hazard having such interesting and engaging kits. the only area really suffering is the lore because the cinematics likely do not have enough tangible income to justify them.
No, the game is on the lore and style integrity downfall, no burnout is to blame for it. The game just sucks in that matter. I feel like it goes for all blizzard games lately.
I'm really disappointed in the design of Hazard as a character, he's supposed to be mutated by the stuff he injected into himself, but it doesn't read that way because all the crystals are coming off his cybernetics. I actually had a half baked fan concept back in 2018 for a hero that would've had some similar abilities to hazard, and I had come up with a scorpion look like one of his concepts, so I'm very disappointed they made another barrel chested person. I appreciate Overwatch plays it fast and loose with anatomical correctness, but in a universe with mechas, power armor, and robots, they just do another Person But Big. I knew overwatch had lost the plot on lore after a few seasons of overwatch 2, but when I saw Juno if felt like they lost the plot on art direction too.
@@meganek0597yes, did I stutter? There hasn't been a good Marvel product in almost 2 decades and Rivals is no exception. Their monetization is as bad as Marvel Snap and that's a Gacha game
@@kentlock346 I actually don't get mad at playing games so I have fun on overwatch. however I was a rust console gamer who spend way too many hours on that game. that game pissed me off infinity more than what overwatch could ever do. Also its not end maybe a new beginning tho
So this is after Marvel Rivals released, but I'm a Switch only owner with a potato laptop... So I thought last night I could play Paladins by Evil Mojo/Hi-Rez on my Switch because I didn't want to touch OW2 ever... But it turns out, Paladins was removed from Switch and Switch only, which means my only Hero Shooter is OW2... So I installed it, and I'm just gonna play it occasionally, until I get a better way to play Marvel Rivals. Us Switch players truly are suffering in Hero Shooters now-
I hope marvel rivals comes to Xbox cause I hate blizzard I was fine with their battle pass buying it every few seasons but man blizzard abuses the relationship with their fans
I don't really see that as a bad thing. Sure his abilities all have similarites to other abilities but that in itself is unique, and he fun so idc I guess😅
I never did play Overwatch 1 but goddamn I hear good things about it, I’m pretty sure it’s too late to save it with a Netflix Series or smthn, I have been waiting for 2 months to play Marvel Rivals, and I have known about the game for 2 months
You guys are delusional. 6v6 was a desister, even Classic event shows that, we get 5v5 for a reason. There actual people with game design experience working in a studio, they know more than nothingburger RUclipsrs. So tired of one of the same.
My opinion. OW2 is currently in a very good state rn as far as the balance of the game goes with no one thing being overly dominate and having it feel stale every match. I personally plan on continuing to play OW alongside Rivals and I do think competition in the hero shooter market is healthy and will hopefully motivate OW to be more aggressive and creative with it events and other additions to the game however let's not pretend that the only reason Rivals is getting so much hype and attention is because it's the shiny new toy on the block. Once the honeymoon phase is over the cracks in its walls will begin to show just like any other game on the market today and it's gonna be just as aggressive with its monetization because it's A. Another FTP game and B. It's using the marvel license. I hope both game succeed so if ones have a bland season I can go play the other but optimally they'll both be amazing and I'll have hard choices on which game to play what season.
Blizzard: let's leave the widow's one-shot, more nerfs junkrat! Yes, the balance is wonderful...5 seasons...immortal Mauga, immortal diva, genji under mercy's pocket, pharah, now a widow...
@@МистерИ-ю8л dva and Mauga fall over without backline keeping them up, Pharah is slow in the air and shoot be popped by hit scans and Widow I agree but what do you do to her without gutting her
@@Capn_Chunk Mauga covers the supports, diving alone is suicide, he was killed only by himself, Ana and Zenyatta. Diva turns junk spam into something completely useless. Pharah had 250 HP, Junkrat's combo doesn't work (at least thanks for fixing that later). How about the widow does the same thing she did with the garbage man? reduce damage and remove one-shot? give more survivability and change the style of play? Or just fix Sombra and bring back the junkman one-shot. For junkrat, the last 5 seasons have been a mess. Season 9 literally divided the DPS into useful and dubious. And the changes to Sombra only made the situation in this role worse.
Saying it's Overwatch's current balance is very good says that this is already going to be an uphill battle in this section. It's terrible, and continues to be so. Rivals is getting hype cause it's new, yes but people played the beta and it's gas. Hell, Overwatch only really popular because of it's porn and not the game itself lmao. And you can't even dispute that fact now as Blizzard is glazing over kiriko and Juno and Mercy skins while everyone gets slim pickings. But Rivals is getting a lot of attention because they seem to be commiting to it. Every character available at launch. having character data public on website and maintaining it consistently (overwatch needs a third party wiki), CC program (where overwatch just invites their top popular shrills to do things), the hero designs are even better. Hawkeye has to actually look at his target AND track them to do massive damage or one shot instead of the old hand soap spam that random hits you cross map. Hell, they are committed to trying to fight Ximming. Overwatch doesn't even fucking care about that and still half lazy with getting cheaters. They are dropping dev logs left and right and the game isnt even out yet, everyone else just disappears after the closed/open beta then pops up with the launch, including Overwatch. The work AND the passion behind Rivals looks real and promising
Honestly, this new tank is such a disappointment. With an unoriginal kit, a copy-pasted personality, and a lackluster cinematic, Hazard comes together to be less than the sum of his parts, and it shows.
I hear what you’re saying but to me it sounds like that even if overwatch was where you’d want it to be you’d still not come back to it because of all the past disappointments that you’ve just moved on which is cool but I just don’t see this as a current ow problem
What a weird and basic video this is. You seem too burned out to have a good opinion on new things. Hazard looks fine, his kit is cool and wasnt too overpowered on release. (Just nerf some of his cooldowns) They designed him to be able to nerf him easily. I agree with the cinematic makes people hate him more, but overall he is a great hero that came out
The downfall in quality of Overwatch cinematics and world building has just gotten depressing at this point.
Dragons was peak
Everything wrong with Overwatch has nothing to do with its cinematics which is just set dressing. The problem is OP new characters put out with zero buffs for struggling characters like Moira and Mercy. They keep pumping out super strong new characters without rebalancing those with older, outdated kits.
I’m so glad I’m not the only one who thought the devs saw Halo and decided to make the needler pistol a character
My favorite gun
It all comes back to the higher ups. I truly wish we could return to a time where the devs could show the story they want to tell
Overwatch Business plan: are we gonna directly profit from it.. if not fuck it.
That concept art makes me sad because I know that Blizzard higher ups wont let the artists make a hero that isnt traditionally attractive like every recent one we've gotten. No more hammonds or winstons for me ig
You wanna fuck ramattra?
A good middle ground would be to make Kirikos spirit fox playable. That way you get an animal, can piggy back off of Kirikos popularity and you get a hot fox character that you can use to appeal to furries which is a huge untapped market lol
@@aceclop duck no if they start appealing to furries I’ll uninstall the game and sell my account
@@Silentragerr
All I'm saying is kirkos fox is the hottest character in the game right now
Bro you got Venture stop complaining
It feels like me and a few million! people are just waiting for Rivals so much.. Hope their servers hold lol
Like 30 thousand at best lol
It just needs its own arcane series like league of legends got
yh no dice they have conflict of interest with the netflix board.
Man I used to love your content but then you made a TikTok about one bad game you had with a Brig or something on Colloseo and since then all your content has been negative rage bait. Hazard is the most fun I've had on Tank in a hot minute, he's almost universally agreed on to be awesome personality and gameplay wise with just needing to tweak his primary to feel a bit better even if you gotta take a little power out of the rest of his kit.
i desperately hope rivals is successful so the competition forces overwatch to return to it's former glory
They need to bring back the old team with jeff somehow to get back to glory days imo. They had the original vision, which is what i think is missing from ow. Also, take out the 2 and just make it overwatch again!
They fumbled the only thing that I think was the main reason for people to play: Compelling characters. Making an atractive strong white dude be part of a gang called "the phreaks" in the same universe JunkRat, Roadhog and Reaper exist just shows how little they know about their own world they created. And To me teh fact he has prosthetics or augmentations doen't make him a freak simply because there are tons of otehr characters who have the same things if not worse. And even the people on the Phreak gang are just some guys? Like, there is a fat omnic, so what? Being fat doesn't make you a freak. And the leads they left for us to follow pointed to a completely different story, you know? There were no news stories about ´phreaks attacking some place, of Kinda dissapointed that the fans of the game actually came with a better idea for Hazzard than whatever convoluded (and yet shallow) story he has.
There is Genji, Reaper, Moira and Mauga.
Theyre all deformed and augmented in some insane way.
It’s only just clicked for me the Deja vu I’m getting with the OW vs Rivals discourse. In particular, what’s being said in the OW community in relation to rivals is very similar to what was being said in the TF2 community when OW was coming out. Both had:
- Widespread dissatisfaction in the state of the game at the time, particularly prior to marvels/ OW release
- An expectation of the devs releasing something big to compete with the new release. Then subsequent disappointment when the devs didn’t.
-Dwindling developer support (albeit for very different reasons).
I’m sure there were more that I can’t just think of, but it’s interesting to see these parallels between when OW was the big new competitor on the block getting all the attention to now when it faces its own brand new competitor stealing OW’s thunder.
Played overwatch since 2016. This year finally decided to let it go. Became another shitty, toxic cash grab game with terrible balancing choices, among MANY other horrible decisions. Never again.
You finally got over your addiction. Stay strong homie✊
Overwatch's biggest rival is itself. Always has been and by the look of it, always will be.
"compete with marvel rivals" rivals isnt even out yet no one knows how well it will do I do remember a lot of people had issues with its design deicions as well and many of the complaints i see on OW gameplay also apply to rivals.
plus with no role que in rivals have fun with no support or tanks.
Dude give up we been waiting on a game from marvel that's anything like overwatch so we can finally leave overwatch if this game is any I mean any good overwatch is done son
Dude i have more fun watching marvel rivals videos than i have playing overwatch and that's sad overwatch is dead i already uninstalled it ready for marvel rivals
I... can no longer bring myself to care about OW. I haven't even watched the cinematic, I watched some streams of playing him. So hyped for Rivals tho
I don't want overwatch to close because obviously it won't be beneficial for the players, it's just that this game is already 8 years old and we're just telling the truth about it without rose-colored glasses.
Whether you like the bitter truth or not is another question.
Personally, I also treat Marvel rivals with caution without blind faith in the future, the game is doing well but this does not mean that it will always be like this.
P.S Separately, I would like to praise Marvel Rivals for its survey system. I am pleased to know that the developers listen to the community.
you just sound burnt out of overwatch to me. sure you can call the lack of cinematics disappointing, but with the little budget they have they are doing their absolute hardest to keep the game afloat reliably while keeping their notably growing audience around. the balance has been consistently better than it ever was in ow1, the recent characters are INCREDIBLY well designed, with venture juno and hazard having such interesting and engaging kits. the only area really suffering is the lore because the cinematics likely do not have enough tangible income to justify them.
No, the game is on the lore and style integrity downfall, no burnout is to blame for it. The game just sucks in that matter. I feel like it goes for all blizzard games lately.
@@Sald8TrinNo one said anything about burnout, he specifically said lack of budget
@@meganek0597 Did you read the OP comment, smartass?
I'm really disappointed in the design of Hazard as a character, he's supposed to be mutated by the stuff he injected into himself, but it doesn't read that way because all the crystals are coming off his cybernetics.
I actually had a half baked fan concept back in 2018 for a hero that would've had some similar abilities to hazard, and I had come up with a scorpion look like one of his concepts, so I'm very disappointed they made another barrel chested person.
I appreciate Overwatch plays it fast and loose with anatomical correctness, but in a universe with mechas, power armor, and robots, they just do another Person But Big.
I knew overwatch had lost the plot on lore after a few seasons of overwatch 2, but when I saw Juno if felt like they lost the plot on art direction too.
Ive had zero want or reason to play ow for years and now with rivals coming out im probably never going to
Glazing Marvel when all they've put out is slop movies and gacha games in the past decade and a half is definitely a choice.
For the past decade and a half? Sit down lil bro
@@meganek0597yes, did I stutter? There hasn't been a good Marvel product in almost 2 decades and Rivals is no exception. Their monetization is as bad as Marvel Snap and that's a Gacha game
overwatch is climbing back up I love this game and I will play it until it ends.
It's the end good luck with your high blood pressure playing overwatch
@@kentlock346 I actually don't get mad at playing games so I have fun on overwatch. however I was a rust console gamer who spend way too many hours on that game. that game pissed me off infinity more than what overwatch could ever do. Also its not end maybe a new beginning tho
@@Luiene if you say so
I can still play overwatch and have fun, and it's always fun to come back to every few months
thank god marvel rivals is coming, this new hero design are legit unfun to play against
So this is after Marvel Rivals released, but I'm a Switch only owner with a potato laptop... So I thought last night I could play Paladins by Evil Mojo/Hi-Rez on my Switch because I didn't want to touch OW2 ever... But it turns out, Paladins was removed from Switch and Switch only, which means my only Hero Shooter is OW2... So I installed it, and I'm just gonna play it occasionally, until I get a better way to play Marvel Rivals. Us Switch players truly are suffering in Hero Shooters now-
I reinstalled ow because they had released all heroes and i wanted to try out the two new tanks and supp, after like an hour i uninstalled ow
I hope marvel rivals comes to Xbox cause I hate blizzard I was fine with their battle pass buying it every few seasons but man blizzard abuses the relationship with their fans
It's on series x and s day one
@ bet that hopefully these devs actually can deliver it’s crazy how much ow2 feels like it’s in the back burner for a game that makes so much
"I reinstalled overwatch2" But he lasts made a video on it 7 days ago. Mk.
I mean the hero is fun and well made. Just needs slight tweaks. Id rather have good gameplay than good cinematics.
Harizard is just a mutant of other caraters
I don't really see that as a bad thing. Sure his abilities all have similarites to other abilities but that in itself is unique, and he fun so idc I guess😅
I never did play Overwatch 1 but goddamn I hear good things about it, I’m pretty sure it’s too late to save it with a Netflix Series or smthn, I have been waiting for 2 months to play Marvel Rivals, and I have known about the game for 2 months
Good video brudda
You guys are delusional. 6v6 was a desister, even Classic event shows that, we get 5v5 for a reason. There actual people with game design experience working in a studio, they know more than nothingburger RUclipsrs. So tired of one of the same.
Hazard is awesome. God white dude finally. Many people including most like how he plays
idk this is a huge yap session bruh
Idk man i like him
My opinion. OW2 is currently in a very good state rn as far as the balance of the game goes with no one thing being overly dominate and having it feel stale every match. I personally plan on continuing to play OW alongside Rivals and I do think competition in the hero shooter market is healthy and will hopefully motivate OW to be more aggressive and creative with it events and other additions to the game however let's not pretend that the only reason Rivals is getting so much hype and attention is because it's the shiny new toy on the block. Once the honeymoon phase is over the cracks in its walls will begin to show just like any other game on the market today and it's gonna be just as aggressive with its monetization because it's A. Another FTP game and B. It's using the marvel license. I hope both game succeed so if ones have a bland season I can go play the other but optimally they'll both be amazing and I'll have hard choices on which game to play what season.
lol 😂
Blizzard: let's leave the widow's one-shot, more nerfs junkrat!
Yes, the balance is wonderful...5 seasons...immortal Mauga, immortal diva, genji under mercy's pocket, pharah, now a widow...
@@МистерИ-ю8л dva and Mauga fall over without backline keeping them up, Pharah is slow in the air and shoot be popped by hit scans and Widow I agree but what do you do to her without gutting her
@@Capn_Chunk Mauga covers the supports, diving alone is suicide, he was killed only by himself, Ana and Zenyatta.
Diva turns junk spam into something completely useless.
Pharah had 250 HP, Junkrat's combo doesn't work (at least thanks for fixing that later).
How about the widow does the same thing she did with the garbage man? reduce damage and remove one-shot? give more survivability and change the style of play?
Or just fix Sombra and bring back the junkman one-shot.
For junkrat, the last 5 seasons have been a mess.
Season 9 literally divided the DPS into useful and dubious.
And the changes to Sombra only made the situation in this role worse.
Saying it's Overwatch's current balance is very good says that this is already going to be an uphill battle in this section. It's terrible, and continues to be so. Rivals is getting hype cause it's new, yes but people played the beta and it's gas. Hell, Overwatch only really popular because of it's porn and not the game itself lmao. And you can't even dispute that fact now as Blizzard is glazing over kiriko and Juno and Mercy skins while everyone gets slim pickings. But Rivals is getting a lot of attention because they seem to be commiting to it.
Every character available at launch. having character data public on website and maintaining it consistently (overwatch needs a third party wiki), CC program (where overwatch just invites their top popular shrills to do things), the hero designs are even better. Hawkeye has to actually look at his target AND track them to do massive damage or one shot instead of the old hand soap spam that random hits you cross map. Hell, they are committed to trying to fight Ximming. Overwatch doesn't even fucking care about that and still half lazy with getting cheaters. They are dropping dev logs left and right and the game isnt even out yet, everyone else just disappears after the closed/open beta then pops up with the launch, including Overwatch. The work AND the passion behind Rivals looks real and promising
Honestly, this new tank is such a disappointment. With an unoriginal kit, a copy-pasted personality, and a lackluster cinematic, Hazard comes together to be less than the sum of his parts, and it shows.
I know this is your opinion but good God man you used to make good content you're going to be losing a lot of OverWatch fans now
Overwatch L and Marvel Rivals W!
I hear what you’re saying but to me it sounds like that even if overwatch was where you’d want it to be you’d still not come back to it because of all the past disappointments that you’ve just moved on which is cool but I just don’t see this as a current ow problem
overwatch needs to add more shoeless characters and shoeless skins.
What a weird and basic video this is. You seem too burned out to have a good opinion on new things. Hazard looks fine, his kit is cool and wasnt too overpowered on release. (Just nerf some of his cooldowns) They designed him to be able to nerf him easily. I agree with the cinematic makes people hate him more, but overall he is a great hero that came out
Overwatch is dead