The Average Overwatch 2 Ranked Experience
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“has anyone seen my health bar?” had me dying. bc that’s so real every tank game my hp just evaporates.
U understand that a phara pocketed by a mercy, a widow, and the rein all shot him at the same time? If only as Winston flats wouldn’t just make probably the worst dives in history, maybe then he’d live longer. Tanks can tank, but tank mains just want tanks to be immortals
@@mrlunar62 no, we want to be able to push in, make space, and gets kills without getting a one way ticket back to spawn. Having to play as safe as possible and hug corners for an entire game sucks ass.
@@Phobie_2000I agree. I just want to be able to get kills and help my teammates push forward - not have my healthbar be made out of paper mache or something.
I'm a TANK. I should be able to TANK damage, not get melted like a knife through butter in 2 widow headshots or a pharah + mercy combo.
We as tanks should be able to actually DO something, not just play spawn simulator cause the other tank sometimes mindlessly shoots us until we have no hp.
@@GeniuslyJynxxD As a support, I'm kinda tired of looking away for a split second and my tank is in spawn. It doesn't feel rewarding unless it's close fights more than before
@@SomeKindaHero117 yeah I play support alot too
Every time Flats says "I got solo shattered" I hear "I got soul shattered" and honestly I think the second one might be more accurate.
Faaaacts
I love those games where everyone including support is shooting at tank and then they have an Ana who sleep darts you and evaporate you in 1 second. Then your team that can’t return fire an take any pressure off you at all just goes “gg tank diff”. Amazing experience
Tbf flats dove into possibly the worst positions consecutively. He moans a lot about tank being shit despite the fact that the enemy dva on that shambali (butchered the name) was utterly carrying their team and has insane impact
Yeah it was crazy seeing him dive at the 7:00 minute mark into a cass plus Zen and get absolutely rolled. What I don’t understand about one tricks is how they must somehow enjoy getting their asses clapped mega hard because they won’t switch even after they start feeding.
@@genzen6129 flats isn't a one trick but I am and I enjoy it because playing my character (rein for me) outweighs how unfun some games can be, basically the highs are really high and the lows are really low but the highs are worth it for me to keep one tricking
💯 this is real. They can't perform well with no pressure and somehow they think they know what's going on with your gameplay. If they actually knew what you're doing then maybe you'd still be alive.
@@mrlunar62 tbf, flats isn't the only person complaining about this.
man this video encapsulates everything wrong with 5v5, average tank gameplay, widow dominating the game, nothing fucking dying, counterswapping, like how do you even defend this format at this point without bringing up the queue time argument, none of these issues are fixable in this format the devs have had two whole years to do it and they only made it worse
I agree, 5v5 sucks. Some tanks even feel designed as if they were meant for 6v6 like Queen. While they are at it, they should revert Doomfist back to DPS, he doesn't fit the tank role at all!
@@HollowIchigo-hd1pu as a doom main i definitely want DPS Doom back, give me back 6v6 (which instantly fixes/mitigates a lot of the issues listed) and doom and i will be happy
@@Daavel I could see why you want 6v6 but dps doom was fucked
idk how widow dominating games is 5v5s fault honestly a skill issue
The should double the health of every tank then
I feel like this is why so many creators do the unranked to gm thing. It’s not even for any educational value, it’s for the sense of euphoria from winning on a non meta hero 😂
being Winston and not being able to dive widow is so frustrating.
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@@Illmare😂😂😂😂
That's why I just spam kunai at her as Kiri😭😭 monkey can't do it and I feel bad so I try
@@Illmare just check sightlines bro just counterwidow bro
symptom of 5v5 tbh, widow was pretty ez to counter when you have a second tank but nope they removed it
This is exactly my thoughts on playing tank in OW2. It's an excruciating experience. When you're playing tank well (typically means just outplaying the other tank) the game is still fun. But if the enemy tank is even slightly above your skill level, you're going to have an awful time and most likely just get rolled. Tank causes my anxiety to skyrocket and is way too stressful in OW2. I barely play the game anymore but sometimes I get the itch to play and I just stick to DPS or support at this point.
even if you're more skilled than enemy tank it doesn’t matter, they would just counter swap and you’re dead. What’re are you gonna do when there’s a Zarya lifeweaver combo with bastion all focusing you down and your teammates aren’t popping off
But if you play dps or support and get a bad tank, same experience, except you're not losing because you're getting diffed, you're losing because a single teammate is getting diffed and that feels worse. Every single game boils down to who has the better tank, the lone exception being if there's a widow popping off.
It’s why playing ball gives you a break from being battered by every cooldown, playing rein is horrific
even if you diff the enemy tank they can just pick orisa or some other braindead hero to remove your agency and any interaction you have and equalize the skill diff. you will probably still win but it will be so unfun it doesnt matter you win or lose at that point.
You know the tank role sucks if all the tank mains are avoiding it this much
5v5 tanks be like.
This is why tank players like Metalysis who just play for fun and trolling are so fun to watch right now. its gotten to the point that playing tank seriously is a total slog.
it's just this patch. literally the worst it's ever been.
@@ChangeIsPossible-420not just this patch bro, it’s been trash for a while now.
@@ChangeIsPossible-420nah bro this season feels like the worst because all the past mistakes finally caught up with us and we are on the point of no return lol.
"I am so tired of queueing flex and only getting tank" I can feel that on a spiritual level in quick play. load up game go don't wanna play comp for the day just wanna have fun on all roles, boom tank, tank, tank, tank, I think I'm done with game for today.
I dont even play tank for fun anymore.I cant trust a random dude on tank when im dps/support so I do the job just to have a higher chance of winnning
I don't play other roles anymore because I can't trust random supports either 😂 idk if these people are just new and bad or just straight up bad anymore
Literally how I started playing tank, now that's probably my best role
@@aredarious I swear this is how I became a tank main lol. Legit got tired of losing games due to my tanks inting all the time and said "Aight, I'll do it myself".
Or you play tanky heroes in DPS and Support
@@mattevans4377that’s why if I’m on dps I’m playing reaper, soldier, bastion, torb, any character that can self heal or give themselves survival, I don’t play dps tho so idk if that’s a good roster 😂
I had to quit the game period. I'd give it a couple weeks and come back, rage for a couple hours, give it a couple weeks and come back, rage a couple hours, etc. Last time I played I lost two of the most unloseable games I've ever played in any game ever because my teammates got cocky over a fast start and started screwing around. The game has too much working against it to ever succeed again.
Go cry about it game has sucseeded
😂😂@@gamerbeast3616
Playing tank should not feel like a chore it’s honestly so messed up the position the tank roll is at
10:00 "i got two" 😭
why 😭
The most confused question mark at the end of that is what killed me 😂. That rein was down bad lol
5v5 is like either everything dies or nothing does and there is 0 in between
Marvel rivals starting to look really good
Rivals is garbage
@gamerbeast3616 It hasn't even released yet lol.
@@gamerbeast3616 cope
Its fire
@@EvanzHeaven True, just play it today.
Don’t worry Flats. Only 3 more days of this and then it’s Marvel Rivals time
I’m losing sleep over rivals
Season 14 Will be 6v6 for 10 weeks I think.
Rivals isn't even an FPS, there's no way it scratches the same itch as Overwatch. At least, not for me.
@@RegBinary you’d be surprised
@@RegBinary Sucks to be you LOL I can’t wait
the "i got one" right after being pinned off the map was perfect
9:05 most normal tank moment
3:14 Transitions so hard they make you forget flats is legit dying inside
47 seconds ago is domestic assault
5 minutes ago is restraining order
18 minutes ago is tax evasion
1 hour ago is countless war crimes
2 hours ago today is going to be another great day
I kid you not, me and my friend were doing ranked for the drive event, I was on tank and he was on support, and I’m not even joking when I say this: we legit got dps that went negative the whole game 4 games in a row. No, that is not an exaggeration or a lie, trust me, I wish it was.
Literally same! I was damage boosting these dps and pocketing them while topping my tank off and they legit went 0-13 the whole time. It's beyond frustrating. So close to diamond too like how are these below bronze dps showing up here? Went on a fat lose streak having the most inept dps 😅
I believe in you bru, I am the same... It is so so frustrating having to rely in players that have no idea how to play the game... I think I can count the games in which I felt it was close, like both teams perform similar and you lose or win in the details, you know?
Yeah dps are by far the weakest role in the game by leaps and bounds the only hero with any identity left is widow and her identity is being bad for game health tanks are just gigantic buffed dps and support are just better dps
@@Wizardbeard91 tank exists
@@MissImpolitePut me in there, I enjoy a good damage boosting as cass
Health isn't even a factor in survivability anymore in overwatch, the only thing that matters for survivability is damage negation/reduction, hitbox size and mobility abilities, without any of those, the difference between time to kill for a 1000 health person and a 200 health person is about 0.5 seconds.
Good ol ow2 comp
Also love seeing metalysis doing his thing from your pov
The painful part is trying to trust a random to do their job on any role. And that's assuming the enemy team isn't in a whole division ahead
Remember when Team 4 wanted to make Tank fun to play in OW2? Me neither.
When they giga buffed every single tank twice?
Cant make the tank role fun without making the other 2 roles useless
What part of tanks do you even buff? They already never die unless hard countered. They already put out insane dmg. They already have team fight winning ults
LITERALLY what do you buff to make more fun???
@@RageMage10138very warped view. All roles have the capacity for game winning ults.
Tank is in the name, they need to be able to do so. I flex Q and tanks certainly have the worst time (especially in 5v5)
3:40 that Cass was powered by nothing but determination and hatred.
Was anyone else happy when they saw metalysis in this or is it just me?
Yes the goat
I saw and I had to come check out if anyone else knew about the legend of metalysis
How is this better for tank than having an extra tank? It's so miserable even for flats! That has to mean SOMETHING is wrong
either cursed to have a roadhog otp every 6v6 game
or cursed to have a counterwatch enemy tank in 5v5
@asssssssssdawdadw hog doesn't feel as bad as countering if I'm being honest. Old hog god yes but new one is just a damage sponge
@@jinxedcat9843 nah i mean having roadhog otp teammate srry.
roadhog doesn't really have synergy with the other tanks, kinda like if the other friendly supp is a mercy otp.
@asssssssssdawdadw ohhh yea ur right, I read that too fast lol
@@kaito-the.vocaloid-fan Would rather have the otp hog than counterwatch.
8:45 Its moments like this that make me love the ragdoll physics in this game. Like what even happened 😭😭😂😂
The fact good portions of this turned into a "Streamer reacts to Metalysis" video gave me immense joy 😂
Every queue can be painful but Tanks get it the worst:
Supports may have games where they’re playing Dead by Daylight. But at least they get to play the game and not get stuffed by five damage sources at the same time consistently. Not to mention how many fight winning abilities/ultimates they have in their back pocket.
DPS might need to have good games every game if they want to climb upwards. But at least they can get a kill, make consistent plays, and/or play Widow/Phara and ruin the enemy team’s fun.
But Tanks? They either stomp or get stomped the entire match with no in between. With most of their value being a thick punching bag and occasional damage dealer. It is a never ending barrage of punishment and it’s often a thankless position to be in. Genuinely a miserable experience and why I don’t take Ranked seriously anymore.
Did you know that there are non-tank players that say they are tired of "raid boss" tanks 1v2ing them and a teammate? I thought it was wild that people were saying this. They want to sit in the damage hot seat but don't want to play these tanks that they claim are powerful, because they can't output on the role.
nah its just a skill issue I play hog and its just a matter of landing hooks to win if I play bad I lose if I play good I win so it doesnt bother me
@@ultramasterultra5724 you play hog you're not able to talk saying tank is easy try playing ball then come back after you see what they mean
@@josephreynolds2401 fr I get call a no skill for playing ball and people tell me to kms for just killing them once
@ no one plays ball and that’s stupid you dont need to learn ball to say tank is not that hard at least you should know how to play 3 tanks which I do
This was a fantastic Marvel Rivals advertisement
Those stares rein was making were so funny lmao
Gotta love the metalysis appearance
That really was just a Metalysis diff on the Rein there. Only him fr.
queuing all role is basically just queuing only tank. at this point i play my 3 games for the stupid challenge and get off. its horrible
Did that for a while, but I'd rather play 6-10 games of support then get the daylies by going "all roles (tank)" for 3 games of pure agony and counterswaping.
Yes I understand counterswaping increses your chance of winning a lot and after getting rolled 2 times by my hardcounter i will swap too. But why is that even necessary...
@@Amadeuszmaster nah, counterswappings for nerds.
Be a mirror instead, if youre worse at least youre not getting countered, if youre better you get to watch someone counter-pick their own hero/s for the rest of the game
That's the only reason I play Tank at all. Stupid Daily Challenge
never thought i'd see a dead by daylight chase with a cassidy but here we are
1:42 They still haven't fixed the sound bug, where even though Pharah died, the voice doesn't get interrupted.
I've recently started playing OW2. I know I'm ass, but it feels like I have to try my ass off just to not get spawn trapped.
I'm trying to get 50 wins to unlock ranked, but out of 10 or 15 games a day, I get 2 wins if I'm lucky.
I feel it, I had one good tank play. They all swapped to reaper, bastion, ram, juno and zen. I just wanted to play some winton in qp 😅
At least he had fun on the first Winton game
Flats' love of chewing glass really showed this video. Hobbies: OW and glass chewing.
Omg I'm dying 😂 every ability, ultimate and focus is 100% on you all the time. The tank experience, I often will just hide near the front and watch the enemy team collapse when they can't find the tank to shoot at.
This is called "the overwatch 2 experience"
11:33 Rein's whole body is in the hole and his charge still pops him out of it 🤣
The thumbnail is actually so true to me rn I have gone to gold 4 to silver 3 it is so frustrating, I even won a match and got the 'demotion protection' somehow then I lost the next game putting me into silver 3
Ow2 5v5 format is just a literal meme nowadays
Legend has it, he is still chewing on glass. . .
Tank is just miserable holy heck
At least Metalysis is trying to cheer Flats up
“Widow’s not broken just go a dive tank and dive her”
The diving widow experience: 1:00
That samoa clip screams "We're winning, but at what cost!"
I love tank most impact on the game maybe this is a higher level play thing. Some of those deaths were so quick not something I normally see.
This has been my experience in both Competitive and Arcade, especially arcade
This makes me feel better every time I get flex Tank, which seems like every time I don't want it because I have to try so hard for so little return.
This hits way too close to my experience, it’s so rough, people misreading situations is the biggest occurrence, it’s so infuriating, and then they blame the team for themselves not reading
0:30 "oh im headshot" isn't it supposed to be one shot XD
Ah yes, 15 minutes of raw suffering
I think the thing that saddens me most about 5v5 is you see so many players that started with OW2 legitimately believe they are out skilling/playing better than their opponent when they counter pick. Part of me wants 6v6 to come back just to get those games where you're tank diffing and their counter picking does NOTHING.
REAL 👏🏾
Let us get that good Tank Duo back
Seeing flats lose really boosts my morale when I feel like quitting this game dude. Even the best lose games
from winston to jq to mauga to orisa. its like going through the stages of grief
Im primarily a dps player and i was tired of my tanks being "dogshit" so i decided to queue up some tank in order to see if i could do better. The answer was yes but holy shit no wonder good tanks are few and far between its abysmal.
Tanks are the asymmetrically strong but also receiving every bit of punishment for it (I would argue more than what is optimal). Hitboxes really need sized down closer to where doom, junker, and haz are at.
guys, i think he’d rather chew on glass than play another year of tank like this
and i’m right there with him
I feel this so much. My games are not nearly as bad as these, mostly because i'm a Gold player, but alone to finish the drive event i had to play 95 comp games and my dps rank went down from gold 1 to silver 1, it's simply exhausting
I am no way has good as you are Flats, but I felt this video in my soul as a tank player.
This is why I took a break from Competitive this season. I only came back for the drive, and once I completed it, I stopped immediately.
8:50 funniest edit in flats history
Flats I felt that as a fellow flex player "im not even doing anything and im trying to survive and my teams having the time of their lives and somehow we are winning" was like the best tank moment and the worst that like you, we question what this match even is?
7:38 if the goal is to just run around for your life and let your teamates do the work would ball be really good in that case? or am i missing something
Metalysis my goat making at least one game for Flats not miserable lmao
Yo metalysis was in this game 5:24
11:56 heal bot experience
I agree Flats 😂 i love playing tank characters but it is ridiculous how much your team depends on you to do perfectly. Been enjoying the 6v6 mode way more recently ❤ the combos are fun and the tanks are killable haha
8:08 THE REIN BYEEE
Man widow is such a balanced hero with a high skill requirements, i love the engaging gameplay of hiding behind a wall for most of the game just to die in 1 shot anyway❤❤❤
average overwatch 2 experience in general
I feel like the editing is getting better
i'm just so glad rivals is coming out later this week. like FINALLY
Rivals is garbage
Was grinding drive point last night and had this exact experience, 5 losses in a row. All on tank
I wish Flats had joined OnlyFangs as a Prot Warrior. He would've enjoyed a real tanking experience.
As a support player, solo climbing has been a pain. Plat 4 is where I'm at currently.
Man I loved the last Drive event because I was on a winning streak and knocked it out fairly early. This time around? I want to die
I just gave up. 1 win 2 losses, 1 win 3 losses, and so on. Played for 4 hours yesterday (I usually play 30-40min daily). I found a cool group of people and we continued to loose the next 5 games... I'm not even mad. I'm just sad.
I was failing on supp, couldn't get anywhere on drive so I swapped to my seldom played dps role, got lucky. 1 loss = 0.5 of a win so I managed to claw my way through.
Never again. I'd rather die than go through that junk again...and I wasn't playing tank.
Ever since the sombra rework widow has become such a pain to deal with
ngl, Metalysis is extremely strong simply because of how much fun he has.
Players : wanting massive changes, asking for widow nerfs, dps nerfs 1 shots.
Devs : Lets buff widow, mauga, ball and doom. This is fine.
GOD i hope they nerf mauga, ball AND MOST OF ALL WIDOW. So sick of widow every game. Taking out 2-4 of my team before you can even try and play the game. The people who say "JuSt DiVe HeR" have clearly never faced a widow who isnt below gold.
She is the only hero who can shut down half the map, force BOTH teams to completely alter and change how they play, 1 shot most of the roster before you can even try to get to her. Her whole design is just flawed for this type of game and unless she gets a massive range nerf or a massive LoS indicator for everyone she will ALWAYS be a problem in 5v5.
But gotta sell those skins dontcha blizzard?...
One must imagine us tank players happy. Playing tank feels like sisyphus
I have fun playing tank in comp open q, there you can switch if its bad, it can still be bad but at least you have some agency, the solution might be 3 tanks and 2 supports but i had good match with 5 supports too. Its very random, there are more one sided matches, however there are matches where you can actually have fun even with tank. In general when playing 5v5 it feels competitive is closer to the old 6v6 quick play matches in terms of chaos, one sided matches and lack of teamwork (you often feel that its useless to wait for combo in the chaos, just use ult early). Ofc this experience is around plat level so it may not apply at all on GM level, but that is where most of the players are which means that is the average OW2 experience. BTW the majority of friends refuse to play comp at all so i play comp only either solo or with the remaining 1 or 2 friends, that is why people in quick play expect others to play more seriously and not throw, because they don't play comp any more.
Tank experience in a nutshell KEKW
At least Metalysis got Flats laughing
somthing that tilts me as a rein player in low masters/ high diamond is when the enemy rein kills my team. it tilts me because i know how easy it is to kill me if i go for those plays. im like, guys its just a rein, how are you losing to that?
Lost 8 matches in a row while leading in kills in almost all of them
Flats you should buy one of those edible glass bottles and eat it on stream as a prank.
Maybe i'm the only one who say this, but one thing that the classic is more enjoyable than tank in 5v5 is the projectiles size buff in season 9 could be the problem I think. Before season 9 your playstyle was much flexible in position and repositioning with much freedom of around the space. But after season 9 i feel like tanks are being hitten all the time and some dive are getting hitted with soo much more frequency. And if we combine some dmg buff to all the hero after season 9 plus, the gigantic projectile sizes and dps passive we obtain the dlc "The Nighmare of tank". I personally think the projetile size must return like before season 9 for all heroes and maybe some exception with only a half of the nerf for some heroes
That moment when you watched this entire game on stream 2 weeks ago 🌚
So ready for Marvel Rivals 🎉
13:56 Yeah when queuing I specifically leave tak out of it because I'm just tired. I played tank most of the start of overwatch 2 but I just couldn't anymore. I'm glad my cousin is having fun playing tank (I'm pretty much pocketing him)
If you want a "new" fps to play TF2 recently nearly eradicated it's bot problem.
They also reintroduced replay support, their team got upsized and are working on a new update, and theres a lot of new, fun stuff going on in community servers
modern day tf2 isn't in an amazing state either. The bots are gone yeah, but in August nearly 30k players left the game, STILL no updates, and the community is still horrible
Been here since the back in 2015 last beta. And after role lock was introduced I played **exclusively** tank. I don't think it's perfect, by any stretch! but picking one of 9 snipers/adjacent, Mauga's right click, , Rat man, or even Venture puts me to sleep after 3 games, and as a support I've seen too many DPS stand in spawn because I opted to heal the other guy or the tank in a skirmish instead of them standing on what might as well be another map there with Lucio Barrier at 289 health. I don't have agency or have it taken away. So as DPS I just run around begging for heals, dump ass into the tank and ult and everything dies because no thought has been put into any DPS ults They all operate the same baring Echo.
Tank feels so much more engaging since I have to prioritize lighting up the enemy team to figure out where the pressure is going to go, Sit on their backline if my thumb-sucking DPS want to turn on their monitor at any point, or hold back the enemy tank from taking more space. It's not ideal, but the giant paper dolls from of 6v6 were trash and had to rely on barriers and ult abuse to get anything done. Tanks should feel like tanks instead of shittier reaper, shittiest soldier, or an even shittier winton, OW2 actually makes tanks feel more like tanks. They still blow up like balloons because DPS power creep happened over and over again for years and god forbid tanks have a time to rampage for longer than a week. but Metalysis was doing gods work and looked like he was having a blast with those charges and shatters.
You can hate tank now, that's fine. But 6v6 just alienates people who want to play a tank and forces them to play giant DPS. It's time to take off the rose-tinted glasses, Flats.
Maybe one day there will be a game that doesn't play to the myth that one shot characters are balanced by their skill celling~
yeah i never queue as tank anymore, it really just a miserable experience
I was only gold but I also hate those sorts of games where you have to pick to counter their dps cause they're popping off but also the enemy team is swapping to beat you and arghh