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Believe in Jesus for Everlasting Life or Believe that He is the Christ? - Which Should it be?
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- Опубликовано: 10 июн 2024
- Believe in Jesus for Everlasting Life or Believe that He is the Christ? - Which Should it be?
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Welcome to Grace in Focus radio / podcast. Today, Bob Wilkin and Mike Lii are answering a question about belief and what makes a person saved forever. What needs to be believed in order to receive the gift of Eternal salvation? What is the heart of the matter here? Bob and Mike Lii have some answers and an interesting discussion for you concerning this subject ... Please listen!
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Jesus is the Christ who promises everlasting life to the believer in Him, so the answer is "Yes."
And "the believer in Him" means the one that believes that Jesus is the guarantor of everlasting life that guarantees everlasting life to those that believe that Jesus guarantees everlasting life to them, right?
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You are adding to the message of the gospel. In Acts 16:31 Paul tells the Phillipian jailor to simply believe "on the Lord Jesus Christ" ....for SALVATION.... Salvation ensures we have eternal life because CHRIST ensures it ... We just need to believe in Jesus because He is the only one who can get me to heaven, and to save me from eternal torment. It's the person of Christ that is the focus here, not the benefit that Jesus offers. Jesus gives me so many things as I believe in Him ... eternal life, the Holy Spirit, life that keeps bubbling up within me, new priorities...etc
Eternal life.....his "life" here and in the future is the amazing benefit when we place our faith on/in Jesus........
It's Better Evangelism to Talk About Everlasting Life - Mike Lii
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Mike Lii of the Zane Hodges Library, explains why it is better to use the term "everlasting life" for the gift that one is believing in Jesus for.
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IS EVERLASTING LIFE THE RESULT OF FAITH IN CHRIST? OR IS IT THE CONTENT OF FAITH IN CHRIST?
Is Everlasting Life the Result of Faith in Christ? Or Is It the Content of Faith in Christ?
May 30, 2018 by Bob Wilkin in Blog - Assurance, Evangelism, Everlasting Life, Saving Faith
Recently I received two similar responses to a recent blog (which you can read here). In the blog I had said that we must believe that what we get from the Lord by believing in Him is irrevocable, whether we call that everlasting life, salvation, justification, forgiveness, or new life.
Those two responses I received suggested that everlasting life is the result of believing in Christ, but not the object of faith.
I was discussing John 5:24 and John 6:35. In both cases the Lord said that the one who believes in Him (which is equal to believing in the Father who sent Him) has everlasting life which can never be lost.
Let’s assume for the moment that everlasting life, irrevocable salvation, secure justification, forever forgiveness, and an unending relationship with God are all results of believing in Jesus, but not what we believe Him for. My question is this: If the promised result is not what we are believing the Lord Jesus to do, then what does it mean to believe in Him?
One of the responses I received said that to believe in Jesus is to believe that He is my Savior. I’ve heard that a lot. But, of course, that too is a result. The Savior gives salvation to those who believe in Him.
Some say that you only need to believe that Jesus is your Savior who has given you salvation which is undefined as to its permanence. You don’t need to believe that He has given you salvation which can’t be lost. The problem is, Jesus doesn’t promise undefined salvation. He promises salvation which is secure forever.
I see no reason why the Lord Jesus’ promise of everlasting life cannot be the content of our faith in Christ. Is that not what we are believing in Jesus for? Surely that was true in Martha’s case as John 11:25-27 shows. It was also true in the case of the seventy (with Judas as the exception) as Luke 10:20 and John 13:10 show.
Let’s say your Dad said, “If you believe me, I’m taking you fishing on Lake Texoma next Saturday morning. Do you believe me?” That is like John 11:26. If your answer is Yes, then what is it you believe? You believe your Dad is taking you fishing on Lake Texoma on Saturday! The promise is what you are believing Him for. Now you believed lots more about your Dad before he made the fishing promise. But the reason you are going fishing next Saturday is because you believe His promise to take you fishing.
Could you believe your Dad and yet not believe you were going fishing next Saturday? Of course not. If you think going fishing depends on your works between now and next Saturday, then you do not believe your Dad. Simple.
There is no conflict between believing in Jesus and believing in Him for what He promises. I can only believe in Him if I believe in what He promises: everlasting life which can never be lost, secure salvation.
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IS THE PROMISE OF EVERLASTING LIFE OPTIONAL IN EVANGELISM?
Is the Promise of Everlasting Life Optional in Evangelism?
September 27, 2021 by Bob Wilkin in Blog - Eternal Security And Evangelism, John 11:25-27
About a decade ago, I was talking with a pastor who identified as a Free Grace proponent. He told me that a person need not believe in Jesus for everlasting life or anything at all. All one had to believe is that Jesus was sent from God.
Three years ago, I read an article in which another Free Grace proponent said what a person needs to believe in order to be born again is that Jesus was sent from God and that He died on the cross for our sins and rose again.
That same writer went on to say that we do not need to proclaim the promise of everlasting life when we evangelize because everlasting life is the result of believing in Jesus, not the object of faith. He said that the statements in John’s Gospel that deal with the promise of everlasting life are not evangelistic verses written to bring unbelievers to faith in Christ but are discipleship verses designed to lead those who already believe in Jesus to gain assurance.
I recently ran across another Free Grace proponent who said that belief in the irrevocability of salvation was not required. He also said that irrevocable salvation is the result of believing in Jesus, not the object of saving faith. He said that all who believe that Jesus was sent by God are born again.
Is the promise of everlasting life optional in evangelism?
No.
John 3:16 is an evangelistic verse. Nicodemus was not yet born again when he heard that. The readers of John’s Gospel were not born again when they read that (John 20:31). The same is true of John 4:14; 5:24; 6:35, 37, 39, 40, 47. Those verses were not designed to assure those who had already believed that they have everlasting life.i
Everlasting life given by the Lord Jesus is both the result of believing in Him and what it means to believe in Him. In John 4:10, the Lord Jesus identified two things one must believe to be born again: the gift of God and the Giver of the gift. He went on to identify the gift of God as everlasting life (John 4:14) and the Giver of the gift as Himself, the Messiah (John 4:25-26).
In John 11:25-27, the Lord indicated that the one who believes in Him will be raised from the dead and will never die spiritually. He then asked Martha, “Do you believe this?” He was asking if she believed in the security of the believer. She said yes and explained why. She was convinced that He is the Christ, the Son of God. To believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, is to believe that He guarantees everlasting life that cannot be lost to all who believe in Him.
We in the Free Grace movement must take care that our evangelistic message has good news in it. If the result is not part of the message we proclaim, then what is the good news in our message? If we do not tell the unbeliever that the believer receives something, then Good Friday becomes Bad Friday. Jesus died needlessly if the one who believes in Him receives nothing.
The Apostle Paul said that his own experience of coming to faith in Christ is an example “to those who are going to believe on Him for everlasting life” (1 Tim 1:16). The words for everlasting life state the promise we must believe in Jesus to fulfill.
John Piper, not a Free Grace advocate, made this excellent observation in this regard:
…there is a misleading ambiguity in Wright’s statement that we are saved not by believing in justification by faith but by believing in Jesus’ death and resurrection. The ambiguity is that it leaves undefined what we believe in Jesus’ death and resurrection for [italics his]. It is not saving faith to believe in Jesus merely for prosperity or health or a better marriage…
The summons “Believe the gospel of Jesus’ death and resurrection” has no content that is yet clearly good news [italics his]. Not until the gospel preacher tells the listener what Jesus offers him personally and freely does this proclamation have the quality of good news…Of course, it is Jesus who saves, not the doctrine. And so our faith rests decisively on Jesus. But the doctrine tells us what sort of Jesus we are resting on and what we are resting on him for. Without this, the word Jesus has no content that could be good news (Piper, The Future of Justification, pp. 85-86).
One can convey the promise of everlasting life by using other phrases such as “salvation that cannot be lost,” “an eternally secure relationship with God,” “a guarantee to spend eternity with Jesus in His kingdom,” or “justification that can never be revoked.” But, unless we tell people that Jesus promises a secure eternal future for the believer, the gospel is no longer good news, and it is no longer the saving message.
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i It is true, of course, that a believer can lose assurance of everlasting life. If he does, going back to evangelistic verses can indeed restore his assurance. Of course, whether he regains assurance or not, he remains eternally secure because that is the promise.
@@soljos1190"Everlasting life given by the Lord Jesus is both the result of believing in Him and what it means to believe in Him." So to "believe in Him" means to believe that Jesus has given us eternal life and then we will have everlasting life? What is the reason to believe in the first place that Jesus has given us eternal life? Is it because He is the guarantor of everlasting life to those that believe that He guarantees everlasting life to them? If so then how do we believe in the first place that Jesus guarantees us everlasting life?
Thanks so much for this content, this is so edifying to the body of Christ, believe on the Lord Jesus Christ for everlasting life and you have it.
Thanks that was really good really spoke to me Amen
Since John's gospel was written 60 years after the resurrection what happened to those people who died during that period?
Why was Matthew Mark Luke and Acts included in the Bible if the teaching was not for both Jews and Gentiles?
Why did Peter say repent for the forgiveness of sins with John sitting right there on the day of Pentecost in Acts 2 ?
The answer to these questions is because John's gospel was written for the already repented church in Ephesus to encourage believers to continue believing that Jesus is the Son of God by showcasing more evidence that Jesus is the Son of God and that by continuing to believe you will go on to having everlasting life with God.
Where in the book of John does it say it was written "60 years after the resurrection" ?
Matthew , Mark , Luke and Acts are in the Bible because they're inspired by God . Where does it say in those books , that its contents aren't for Jews & GENTILES ?
Why didn't you mention Ephesians 2:8-9 ; Romans 3:20-5:11,11:6,29 ; Titus 3:5 ; Philippians 3:9 ; book of Galatians - that uniformly refute your works righteousness affirmation in the clearest language available to humanity ?
Peter mentioned repentance because repentance is Good for humans .
Not in order to be born again with irreversible Everlasting Life .
Not one passage of Scripture states the following :
"Whosoever repents (1. Turns from all sins till death .
2. Walks in 70%?...80%??...99.999...%???... Perfect behavioral performance (works) till death .
3. Is WATER BAPTIZED.
4. CONTINUOUSLY BELIEVES IN ARBITRARILY SELECTED ATTRIBUTES/DBR till death , even while sinning ...
...shall merit/earn/be rewarded with/be paid with/DESERVE...
...the Unmerited and Never Deserving Gift of Endless Everlasting Life...after "successfully completing the Performance Contract (All Terms and Conditions withheld) ."
So , we STILL find your above clarified affirmation entirely absent in the pages of the Bible .
Yet , to sustain your affirmation , you must Necessarily produce your CO-CONDITIONS above in every conceivable Evangelistic/Everlasting Life/eternal Justification before God passage in Scripture .
Objectively and verifiably , we see its utter and complete absence .
You have to believe in the GOSPEL to be saved. You have to realize that you are a SINNER that needs a savior first and foremost. Once you know you’re a sinner, you must believe Jesus shed his blood and died for your sins, and that he was buried and rose again. Yes, it is for the purpose of receiving everlasting life, but I don’t think someone needs to JUST believe they’ll have everlasting life if they believe in Jesus. Everlasting life is the result of your belief in the GOSPEL. 1 Cor. 15:1-4
I'm still confused. Are you saying that Jesus guarantees eternal life to everyone who believes that he is the messiah?
Assurance is of the Essence of Saving Faith - Zane C. Hodges
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What does it mean to believe that Jesus is the Christ (Hebrew: "Messiah")? It means that Jesus is the guarantor of resurrection and eternal life to everyone who believes in Him. At the moment of saving faith, the believer is sure that he is eternally saved.
In this message given at the 1997 Grace Evangelical Society National Conference, Zane C. Hodges explores the following questions and topics:
What is the difference between saving faith and assurance? Why is the nature of the gospel message, such that when a person believes the biblical gospel, he necessarily has the assurance of eternal salvation?
If a person is not assured of his eternal salvation, then that person is not believing the gospel message of eternal life. Believing something false never saved anybody, although believing a falsehood may give false assurance.
What is saving faith? Is it a persuasion or a decision? Most false professions are made when the decision/process precedes the persuasion.
@@GESvids I'm a common person, not a theologian, and what you wrote makes no sense to me. I'm just trying to understand what I have to believe to be saved, and none of your videos on your channel have made it clear for me.
What Must I Do to be Saved? - Bob Wilkin
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Have you ever wondered what you must do to be saved or have everlasting life? Throughout time and in the Bible, people have asked this important question. Bob Wilkin of the Grace Evangelical Society shares what the Bible has to say about this question, and what you should do if you want to know the answer.
@@WaterBottleJim I feel you. I find them to be sometimes very confusing and sometimes clearer. Here's how I see it: Eternal life is conditional. We clearly have to meet a condition in order to receive it. Anyone who tells you otherwise is lying to you, because Jesus did not promise to give everyone eternal life, but only those who believe in him.
I for one couldnt/cant for the life of me with no sufficient reason believe that Jesus would just grant me eternal/irrevocable life without me meeting this condition which he clearly demands.
What is the condition? Well Jesus wants us to believe what he says. Because you cant believe IN a person if you dont believe what that person says. He wants us to believe him his words and in particular his promise(s) of eternal life to the believer. The Person who really believes Jesus what he's saying (especially about eternal life and how to get it) automatically knows that they have it from Jesus. Why is that? - Because Jesus says e.g. in John 5:24 that whoever believes him his word has eternal life, he repeats that demand in john 11:26 when he asks Martha: DO YOU BELIEVE THIS? I.e. Jesus asks Martha if she believes what he just said. What did he say? Well that everyone who believes him what he's saying (believes in me) has eternal life. If you believe that statement of Jesus you know that you met the condition because you believed him his words as he said and you know that Jesus grants you eternal life that can never be lost.
I came to faith in my eternal security when I understood that. I see no coherent or biblical sound way around that.
My tiktok is " GoldIsSpared " maybe we can talk about this more in Detail if you like.
No enjoyment of the Messiah that she speaking to has her forgetting the regular water go and tell the people that the Messiah is here she eventually does go back and draw more water from the well come on guys. This is getting ridiculous.
Unclear what you're trying to affirm .
What is it - specifically , without exception - one must Necessarily believe and perform till death in order to be born again with irrevocable Everlasting Life ?